2017-03-13 12:48:07.686 TEST 2017-03-13 12:48:08.691 . 2017-03-13 13:06:23.218 >> WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND GET 2017-03-13 13:06:23.219 STARTED? 2017-03-13 13:06:23.223 GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR 2017-03-13 13:06:26.218 BEING HERE. 2017-03-13 13:06:26.22 I AM JEAN MORRISON, UNIVERSITY 2017-03-13 13:06:27.22 PROVOST AND CHIEF ACADEMIC 2017-03-13 13:06:32.293 ADVISOR AT BOSTON UNIVERSITY. 2017-03-13 13:06:32.295 IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME YOU 2017-03-13 13:06:39.302 TO THIS IMPORTANT SYMPOSIUM 2017-03-13 13:06:39.304 COSPONSORED BY THE BU ARTS 2017-03-13 13:06:45.354 INITIATIVE. 2017-03-13 13:06:45.356 THE DANCE PROGRAM AND DISABILITY 2017-03-13 13:06:49.354 SERVICES. 2017-03-13 13:06:49.356 I AM SORRY I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:06:54.468 STAY FOR THE SYMPOSIUM. 2017-03-13 13:06:56.469 WHILE THE WEATHER OUTSIDE BELIES 2017-03-13 13:07:01.468 THIS, YOU HAVE HEARD THERE IS 2017-03-13 13:07:07.537 NOR EASTER HEADING THIS WAY AND 2017-03-13 13:07:07.538 THE WAY NOR'EASTER -- THE 2017-03-13 13:07:10.511 UNIVERSITY MAKES A DECISION 2017-03-13 13:07:11.513 ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO CLOSE IS 2017-03-13 13:07:12.512 ON A PHONE CALL WITH THE LEADERS 2017-03-13 13:07:16.511 OF FACILITIES AND I AM ON THE 2017-03-13 13:07:18.518 PHONE CALL AND THAT TAKES PLACE 2017-03-13 13:07:19.514 AT 1:30 TODAY. 2017-03-13 13:07:19.516 AS SOON AS WE KNOW, WE WILL LET 2017-03-13 13:07:24.512 YOU KNOW. 2017-03-13 13:07:24.513 IT IS PROBABLY WISE TO BE 2017-03-13 13:07:28.519 PREPARED FOR THE UNIVERSITY 2017-03-13 13:07:33.606 BEING CLOSED TOMORROW. 2017-03-13 13:07:33.608 WE ARE THRILLED TO HOST ARTISTS 2017-03-13 13:07:38.599 IN RESIDENCIES LIKE THE DANCE 2017-03-13 13:07:41.599 COMPANY. 2017-03-13 13:07:44.65 IT IS A CORE ELEMENT OF THE ARTS 2017-03-13 13:07:45.668 INITIATIVE EFFORTS TO ENSURE THE 2017-03-13 13:07:48.738 ARTS ARE AN ENGAGING AND 2017-03-13 13:07:49.735 MEANINGFUL PART OF EACH AND 2017-03-13 13:07:51.747 EVERY STUDENT'S EXPERIENCE. 2017-03-13 13:07:54.725 THIS IS OUR THIRD MAJOR 2017-03-13 13:07:57.718 RESIDENCY IN THE FIVE-YEAR 2017-03-13 13:07:57.719 LIFESPAN OF E.U. -- BU ARTS 2017-03-13 13:08:05.72 INITIATIVE AND WE ARE COMMITTED 2017-03-13 13:08:05.721 TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR 2017-03-13 13:08:05.723 DEEP INTERDISCIPLINARY 2017-03-13 13:08:08.721 ENGAGEMENT WITH ARTISTS. 2017-03-13 13:08:12.765 INCREDIBLY ENRICHING 2017-03-13 13:08:15.771 OPPORTUNITIES AND PARTS OF OUR 2017-03-13 13:08:19.764 CULTURE. 2017-03-13 13:08:19.766 THEY PROVIDE FELL YOU WILL 2017-03-13 13:08:25.832 OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY 2017-03-13 13:08:29.873 CONNECTIONS AND HELP HIGHLIGHT 2017-03-13 13:08:29.875 BU'S COMMITMENT AND STAFF FOR 2017-03-13 13:08:36.023 ALL POSSIBILITIES. 2017-03-13 13:08:38.013 THE BOSTON DANCE ALLIANCE, 2017-03-13 13:08:48.069 MASSACHUSETTS CULTURAL COUNCIL 2017-03-13 13:08:48.072 AND CULTURAL ACCESS NEW ENGLAND 2017-03-13 13:08:52.15 AND THEIR STAFF FOR COSPONSORING 2017-03-13 13:08:53.151 AND CONSULTING ON THE STRUCTURE 2017-03-13 13:08:55.19 OF THIS SYMPOSIUM AND LIVE 2017-03-13 13:09:00.184 STREAMING THE EVENT. 2017-03-13 13:09:00.186 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR 2017-03-13 13:09:02.223 BU ARTS MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR 2017-03-13 13:09:05.279 HIS SEEMINGLY ENDLESS ENTHUSIASM 2017-03-13 13:09:08.308 AND ENERGY FOR MAKING ARTS A 2017-03-13 13:09:14.399 CORE COMPONENT OF EACH AND EVERY 2017-03-13 13:09:15.411 STUDENT'S'S EXPERIENCE. 2017-03-13 13:09:15.412 ARTISTIC TALENT AND INNOVATION 2017-03-13 13:09:20.405 ARE NOT THE PROVINCE OF AN ELITE 2017-03-13 13:09:20.406 FOR -- AN ELITE FEW BUT 2017-03-13 13:09:22.407 SOMETHING FOR ALL OF US 2017-03-13 13:09:26.422 IRRESPECTIVE OF RACE, GENDER, 2017-03-13 13:09:27.402 SEXUALITY, AGE, OR ABILITY, TO 2017-03-13 13:09:31.446 ENJOY OR CREATE. 2017-03-13 13:09:31.449 I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE 2017-03-13 13:09:33.478 TODAY FOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND 2017-03-13 13:09:37.473 BELIEF AND POTENTIAL THAT LIES 2017-03-13 13:09:38.476 WITHIN ALL OF US TO CREATE WORKS 2017-03-13 13:09:47.474 OF ART AND INSPECT -- AN 2017-03-13 13:09:47.477 EXPRESSION IN ENDURING AND 2017-03-13 13:09:49.48 REFLECT THE HUMAN CONDITION. 2017-03-13 13:09:55.518 WE HAVE WHAT PROMISES TO BE A 2017-03-13 13:09:57.604 LIVELY AND INSIGHTFUL DISCUSSION 2017-03-13 13:09:58.608 AHEAD WITH TRULY REMARKABLE 2017-03-13 13:09:58.608 ARTISTS, EDUCATORS, AND 2017-03-13 13:10:01.614 COMMUNITY LEADERS. 2017-03-13 13:10:02.655 I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR 2017-03-13 13:10:06.688 YOUR ATTENDANCE TODAY AND I WILL 2017-03-13 13:10:09.654 WELCOME HIM TO THE PODIUM. 2017-03-13 13:10:17.688 I AM SORRY I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:10:18.74 STAY. 2017-03-13 13:10:18.742 THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 13:10:18.743 >> AND JUST ECHOING ALL OF MY 2017-03-13 13:10:28.911 THANKS. 2017-03-13 13:10:28.912 YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED WE ARE 2017-03-13 13:10:33.043 WORKING WITH CAMERA AND HER TEAM 2017-03-13 13:10:38.979 TO DO GRAPHIC FACILITATION. 2017-03-13 13:10:41.016 THERE WILL BE A VISUAL 2017-03-13 13:10:42.026 REPRESENTATION OF THE 2017-03-13 13:10:42.027 CONVERSATIONS TODAY. 2017-03-13 13:10:42.029 I WANT TO TAKE TAMRA AND GRACE 2017-03-13 13:10:50.109 JUST TO THANK TAMRA AND GRACE. 2017-03-13 13:10:50.112 ALSO, THANK YOU FOR OFFERING US 2017-03-13 13:10:54.102 THE BUILDING FOR TODAY TO WE ARE 2017-03-13 13:10:55.102 GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THIS 2017-03-13 13:10:56.103 HERE. 2017-03-13 13:10:56.104 ANOTHER HOUSEKEEPING NOTE. 2017-03-13 13:11:00.163 WHEN WE GET TO THE Q&A, BECAUSE 2017-03-13 13:11:04.155 WE ARE BEING LIVE STREAM, IT IS 2017-03-13 13:11:06.153 IMPORTANT THE QUESTION IS DONE 2017-03-13 13:11:06.154 WITH A MICROPHONE. 2017-03-13 13:11:06.156 I WILL TAKE THIS MICROPHONE AND 2017-03-13 13:11:10.194 I WILL BE SITTING WITH IT. 2017-03-13 13:11:12.196 WHEN WE GET TO A Q&A, I WILL BE 2017-03-13 13:11:14.229 WITH THE MICROPHONE TO MAKE SURE 2017-03-13 13:11:14.231 YOU DO NOT ASK YOUR QUESTION 2017-03-13 13:11:18.229 UNTIL I FIND YOU. 2017-03-13 13:11:19.233 THERE ARE RESTROOMS TO THE RIGHT 2017-03-13 13:11:22.274 OF THE ELEVATOR AS YOU CAME UP. 2017-03-13 13:11:22.276 THERE ARE ALSO FOUNTAINS THERE. 2017-03-13 13:11:30.303 AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 2017-03-13 13:11:30.305 COMING AND JOINING US. 2017-03-13 13:11:30.307 WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS 2017-03-13 13:11:33.283 CONVERSATION. 2017-03-13 13:11:33.284 I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHARLES 2017-03-13 13:11:36.354 WASHBURN, WHO WILL FACILITATE 2017-03-13 13:11:41.369 THE CONVERSATION AND 2017-03-13 13:11:42.354 INTRODUCTION OF OUR PANELISTS. 2017-03-13 13:11:43.358 THANK YOU, EVERYONE. 2017-03-13 13:11:43.359 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:11:44.396 CHARLES: THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 13:11:51.404 I AM CHARLIE WASHBURN AND I HAVE 2017-03-13 13:12:00.403 THE GREAT HONOR OF MODERATING 2017-03-13 13:12:04.444 THIS PANEL. 2017-03-13 13:12:04.445 I'M WEARING A COUPLE OF HATS AT 2017-03-13 13:12:07.454 THIS MOMENT. 2017-03-13 13:12:07.456 I AM THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER 2017-03-13 13:12:12.463 AT MASSACHUSETTS, ONE OF THE 2017-03-13 13:12:12.465 SPONSORS, AND I AM ALSO ON THE 2017-03-13 13:12:15.482 STEERING COMMITTEE FOR CULTURAL 2017-03-13 13:12:15.483 ACCESS NEW ENGLAND. 2017-03-13 13:12:18.489 I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY 2017-03-13 13:12:21.563 ASKING MY CANE COLLEAGUES TO 2017-03-13 13:12:26.659 RAISE THEIR HAND. 2017-03-13 13:12:26.66 WE WILL BE INFILTRATING THE 2017-03-13 13:12:31.655 GROUPS AFTERWARDS. 2017-03-13 13:12:33.664 WE WANT TO BUILD AN ACTION 2017-03-13 13:12:37.714 AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING. 2017-03-13 13:12:38.712 KEEP THAT IN MIND AND HOLD US TO 2017-03-13 13:12:41.734 THAT. 2017-03-13 13:12:44.73 JOIN CANE. 2017-03-13 13:12:47.731 THIS WORK, IT IS IMPORTANT. 2017-03-13 13:12:51.777 IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT RAISING 2017-03-13 13:12:55.776 HANDS, I WOULD LOVE TO MEET EACH 2017-03-13 13:12:59.773 OF YOU, MANY OF YOU I KNOW, BUT 2017-03-13 13:13:04.771 WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. 2017-03-13 13:13:06.774 WE DO HAVE TIME TO ASK A COUPLE 2017-03-13 13:13:07.777 OF THINGS. 2017-03-13 13:13:07.778 HOW MANY OF US WERE BORN OUTSIDE 2017-03-13 13:13:13.913 OF THE UNITED STATES? 2017-03-13 13:13:13.915 A SHOW OF HANDS? 2017-03-13 13:13:13.916 VERY GOOD. 2017-03-13 13:13:15.906 HOW ABOUT WEST OF THE 2017-03-13 13:13:19.954 MISSISSIPPI? 2017-03-13 13:13:19.955 WE HAVE GOT A FEW MORE. 2017-03-13 13:13:23.103 HOW MANY WERE BORN IN NEW 2017-03-13 13:13:25.958 ENGLAND? 2017-03-13 13:13:25.959 IN GREATER BOSTON? 2017-03-13 13:13:30.956 INTERESTING. 2017-03-13 13:13:33.982 NOTICE THERE WERE MANY MORE FOR 2017-03-13 13:13:36.986 NEW ENGLAND. 2017-03-13 13:13:36.987 HOW MANY OF US IDENTIFY AS 2017-03-13 13:13:44.023 PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS? 2017-03-13 13:13:45.024 A GOOD SOLID REPRESENTATION. 2017-03-13 13:13:50.022 HOW ABOUT EDUCATORS? 2017-03-13 13:13:50.022 ACTIVISTS? 2017-03-13 13:13:53.033 WHO HAS ALREADY SEEN ACCESS 2017-03-13 13:14:01.083 DANCE COMPANY BEFORE? 2017-03-13 13:14:01.084 -- AXIS DANCE COMPANY BEFORE? 2017-03-13 13:14:05.172 ENOUGH OF THAT. 2017-03-13 13:14:09.246 I WILL GET DOWN TO MY REAL JOB. 2017-03-13 13:14:10.231 I DID NOT WANT TO JUST DO A 2017-03-13 13:14:16.238 REGULAR AND TYPICAL 2017-03-13 13:14:16.24 INTRODUCTION. 2017-03-13 13:14:16.241 I HAVE ASKED EACH OF THE 2017-03-13 13:14:21.283 PANELISTS, WHEN I EACH ABUSE 2017-03-13 13:14:25.358 THEM, TO SHARE WHY IT IS THEY 2017-03-13 13:14:28.428 CARVED OUT THIS AFTERNOON TO BE 2017-03-13 13:14:28.429 HERE. 2017-03-13 13:14:29.425 WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION TO BE 2017-03-13 13:14:32.409 HERE? 2017-03-13 13:14:32.411 I WOULD LOVE TO ASK EACH OF YOU 2017-03-13 13:14:34.448 BUT I CAN'T. 2017-03-13 13:14:34.45 TO MY LEFT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IS A 2017-03-13 13:14:40.405 POET AND CEO OF SOULTOUCHIN' 2017-03-13 13:14:45.455 EXPERIENCES, KEITH JONES. 2017-03-13 13:14:49.457 WHAT BRINGS YOU HERE TODAY? 2017-03-13 13:14:49.458 KEITH: MONEY. 2017-03-13 13:14:52.528 NO, -- 2017-03-13 13:14:53.533 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 13:14:53.534 KEITH: THANK YOU FOR COMING, 2017-03-13 13:14:58.566 EVERYBODY. 2017-03-13 13:15:01.567 ONE OF THE REASONS I CAME TODAY 2017-03-13 13:15:06.568 WAS BECAUSE CULTURE, ART, AND 2017-03-13 13:15:07.577 DISABILITY SEEM TO BE ONE OF THE 2017-03-13 13:15:07.579 FEW AREAS WHERE YOUR DISABILITY 2017-03-13 13:15:11.58 CAN BE SEEN AS AN ADVANTAGE, 2017-03-13 13:15:12.569 WHERE YOU CAN USE YOUR CREATIVE 2017-03-13 13:15:14.675 ADAPTABILITY TO EXPRESS YOUR 2017-03-13 13:15:18.764 ART. 2017-03-13 13:15:18.765 THAT IS THE REASON I CAME HERE 2017-03-13 13:15:18.767 TODAY. 2017-03-13 13:15:18.768 CHARLES: TWO KEITH'S LEFT -- TO 2017-03-13 13:15:26.735 KEITH'S LEFT, JUDY SMITH, 2017-03-13 13:15:31.747 ARTISTIC DIRECTOR OF AXIS DANCE 2017-03-13 13:15:34.735 COMPANY. 2017-03-13 13:15:34.736 I THINK JUDY GETS THE CREDIT FOR 2017-03-13 13:15:39.824 TRACKING LONGEST AND HARDEST, 2017-03-13 13:15:43.86 CERTAINLY FOR THE PANEL. 2017-03-13 13:15:43.861 WHAT MOTIVATES YOU TO BE HERE 2017-03-13 13:15:47.778 TODAY? 2017-03-13 13:15:47.78 JUDY: ARTS AND DISABILITY HAS 2017-03-13 13:15:52.787 KIND OF BEEN MY LIFE'S WORK FOR 2017-03-13 13:15:53.781 THE PAST 30 YEARS. 2017-03-13 13:15:57.778 I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF BEING 2017-03-13 13:15:58.799 AT NEW ENGLAND FOUNDATION FOR 2017-03-13 13:15:58.801 THE ARTS, ARTS IN THE MILITARY 2017-03-13 13:16:02.844 FOR THE WEEKEND. 2017-03-13 13:16:02.845 IT WAS NICE. 2017-03-13 13:16:07.86 I DO NOT TOUR MUCH WITH THE 2017-03-13 13:16:08.863 COMPANY ANYMORE. 2017-03-13 13:16:08.865 I AM HOPING I WILL BE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:16:12.861 GET HOME BEFORE STELLA HITS. 2017-03-13 13:16:12.863 THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I HAVE A 2017-03-13 13:16:19.871 PASSION FOR AND I AM GLAD TO BE 2017-03-13 13:16:19.872 HERE. 2017-03-13 13:16:19.874 CHARLES: TO MY RIGHT IS YO-EL 2017-03-13 13:16:25.909 CASSEL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HERE 2017-03-13 13:16:35.957 OF MOVEMENT. 2017-03-13 13:16:36.961 WHAT BRINGS YOU TO TAKE THE 2017-03-13 13:16:36.962 AFTER MOON -- THIS AFTERNOON 2017-03-13 13:16:41.995 OFF? 2017-03-13 13:16:41.997 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:16:42.985 YO-EL: A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. 2017-03-13 13:16:47.996 THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE MAKE 2017-03-13 13:16:53.116 ART, SPECIFICALLY IN MOVEMENT 2017-03-13 13:16:54.113 PRACTICE, ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL 2017-03-13 13:16:56.171 REGARDLESS OF ABILITY, FINANCIAL 2017-03-13 13:16:59.206 MEANS, GENDER, SEXUALITY, AND 2017-03-13 13:17:02.209 TODAY, IT IS REALLY ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:17:02.21 CELEBRATING OUR IDENTITY AND HOW 2017-03-13 13:17:04.239 THAT WAS STIMULATED THROUGH ART 2017-03-13 13:17:06.238 PRAXIS -- PRACTICE AND HOW THERE 2017-03-13 13:17:10.239 IS A MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE TWO. 2017-03-13 13:17:13.237 FORGIVE ME FOR MY HEARING. 2017-03-13 13:17:14.239 I NEVER HEAR THE WORD 2017-03-13 13:17:14.241 DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:17:14.242 I ONLY HEAR "DIS" ABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:17:22.364 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 13:17:24.396 CHARLES: JOHN KILLACKY, 2017-03-13 13:17:32.462 VENTURING HERE FROM THE GREAT 2017-03-13 13:17:32.463 STATE OF VERMONT. 2017-03-13 13:17:34.477 WELCOME. 2017-03-13 13:17:34.478 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:17:35.487 JOHN: THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 13:17:39.506 IT WAS THE EARLY 1990'S WHERE I 2017-03-13 13:17:45.531 WAS WALKING AT THE ART CENTER IN 2017-03-13 13:17:45.532 MINNEAPOLIS AND MY JOB WAS TO 2017-03-13 13:17:49.533 BRING NEW EMERGING FORMS OUT. 2017-03-13 13:17:53.539 BACK THEN, THE WHOLE DISABILITY 2017-03-13 13:17:54.546 ARTISTS MOVEMENT WAS A FIELD 2017-03-13 13:17:58.648 THAT WAS NEW TO ME. 2017-03-13 13:17:58.649 I INVITED THE AXIS DANCE COMPANY 2017-03-13 13:18:02.622 IN JANUARY. 2017-03-13 13:18:03.665 JUDY SAID I THINK THAT MIGHT NOT 2017-03-13 13:18:06.665 BE THE BEST TIME OF YEAR TO 2017-03-13 13:18:08.684 BRING US, ME BEING THE CURATOR I 2017-03-13 13:18:08.685 WAS, I SAID BUT IT FITS MY 2017-03-13 13:18:14.749 VISION. 2017-03-13 13:18:14.772 SO COME ON OUT IN THE FREEZING 2017-03-13 13:18:14.773 COLD. 2017-03-13 13:18:15.754 IT WAS 30 BORAT -- 30 BELOW AND 2017-03-13 13:18:19.744 HERVEY -- HER WHEEL BROKE AND 2017-03-13 13:18:23.75 FROZE. 2017-03-13 13:18:23.751 I WOULD SAY IT WAS MY OWN 2017-03-13 13:18:25.743 IGNORANCE. 2017-03-13 13:18:27.749 IT WAS MY INTEREST IN THIS KIND 2017-03-13 13:18:29.741 OF UNIQUE IDIOSYNCRATIC ARTIST, 2017-03-13 13:18:34.876 FROM THE AXIS COMPANY. 2017-03-13 13:18:37.827 AID PERFORMANCE PERSON, AND ALL 2017-03-13 13:18:44.878 OF THESE ARTISTS TAUGHT ME A 2017-03-13 13:18:44.878 GREAT DEAL BECAUSE IN EVERY 2017-03-13 13:18:51.867 SINGLE ENCOUNTER, I HAD TO LEARN 2017-03-13 13:18:52.867 NOT FROM MY WORLD VIEW OF HOW TO 2017-03-13 13:18:53.884 DO THINGS BUT FROM THEIRS. 2017-03-13 13:18:54.867 SO IT WAS PRETTY TRANSFORMATIVE 2017-03-13 13:18:57.872 FOR ME. 2017-03-13 13:18:57.874 21 YEARS AGO, I HAD SURGERY THAT 2017-03-13 13:19:01.866 PARALYZED ME FROM THE NECK DOWN. 2017-03-13 13:19:03.877 I LEFT THE TEMPORARILY ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:19:06.87 WORLD AND ALSO BEGAN TALKING AS 2017-03-13 13:19:12.912 AN ARTIST. 2017-03-13 13:19:12.912 I HAVE ALWAYS HAD THIS HYBRID 2017-03-13 13:19:12.913 CAREER. 2017-03-13 13:19:16.913 BEGAN MAKING FILMS ON THE 2017-03-13 13:19:16.914 SUBJECT AND HAD A BOOK COME OUT 2017-03-13 13:19:19.911 ABOUT IT. 2017-03-13 13:19:19.912 I THINK I COME TO THE 2017-03-13 13:19:22.962 CONVERSATION TODAY FROM BOTH 2017-03-13 13:19:25.998 SIDES, AS ADMINISTRATOR AND AN 2017-03-13 13:19:26.993 ARTIST. 2017-03-13 13:19:26.994 CHARLES: THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 13:19:29.997 TO GET US WARMED UP, THE FIRST 2017-03-13 13:19:36.997 QUESTION WE COOKED UP WAS CAN 2017-03-13 13:19:41.033 YOU SHARE ANY ARTISTIC CHOICES 2017-03-13 13:19:41.034 YOU MADE THAT MAY HAVE ADVANCED 2017-03-13 13:19:44.037 THE CAUSE OF INCLUSION, PEOPLE 2017-03-13 13:19:46.242 WITH DISABILITIES, PARTICULARLY 2017-03-13 13:19:51.202 IN THE PERFORMING ARTS? 2017-03-13 13:19:51.203 THE WAY WE DID THIS, I PUT 2017-03-13 13:19:56.12 TOGETHER FOUR QUESTIONS, NOT 2017-03-13 13:20:01.133 INSISTING EVERYBODY REPLY TO 2017-03-13 13:20:01.134 EVERYTHING, BUT TO GIVE US A WAY 2017-03-13 13:20:05.163 OF PRIMING THE CONVERSATION. 2017-03-13 13:20:06.214 WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON THE 2017-03-13 13:20:08.213 FIRST QUESTION? 2017-03-13 13:20:11.215 ARTISTIC CHOICES THAT HAVE 2017-03-13 13:20:15.214 ADVANCED THE CAUSE OF INCLUSION? 2017-03-13 13:20:15.215 KEITH: I WILL TAKE IT AT I HAVE 2017-03-13 13:20:21.245 DONE NOTHING. 2017-03-13 13:20:21.246 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 13:20:23.394 KEITH: NO, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS 2017-03-13 13:20:27.334 SOMETHING CALLED CRIP-HOP. 2017-03-13 13:20:31.371 A COLLECTION OF RAPPERS, POETS, 2017-03-13 13:20:37.414 MUSIC PRODUCERS, WRITERS, TO TRY 2017-03-13 13:20:39.428 TO EXPAND ACCESS TO THE LARGER 2017-03-13 13:20:39.429 MARKETS IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE, 2017-03-13 13:20:42.465 ACCESS TO ART INCLUSION OR THINK 2017-03-13 13:20:43.465 LIKE THAT -- THINGS LIKE THAT. 2017-03-13 13:20:45.463 WE USE OUR PLATFORMS OF POETRY, 2017-03-13 13:20:51.525 OUR PERFORMANCE ART, OFFSHOOTS 2017-03-13 13:20:58.539 TO TALK ABOUT TRANS-PHOBIA, 2017-03-13 13:21:01.624 HOMOPHOBIA, AND THINGS LIKE 2017-03-13 13:21:03.632 THAT. 2017-03-13 13:21:03.633 THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE DONE TO 2017-03-13 13:21:04.665 TAKE THE DISCUSSION NOT JUST 2017-03-13 13:21:04.666 ABOUT, THAT IS SO CUTE, DISABLED 2017-03-13 13:21:09.763 PEOPLE CAN DANCE, BUT REALLY 2017-03-13 13:21:10.765 UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT ABOUT THE 2017-03-13 13:21:11.762 DISABILITY BUT ABOUT THE ABILITY 2017-03-13 13:21:13.763 TO PERFORM AND PUT FORTH REALLY 2017-03-13 13:21:16.769 GOOD ART. 2017-03-13 13:21:16.769 THE SECOND PART IS TO CHALLENGE 2017-03-13 13:21:19.868 PEOPLE'S NOTIONS OF WHAT IS 2017-03-13 13:21:23.863 INCLUSION, ACCESSIBILITY, AND 2017-03-13 13:21:25.959 DIVERSITY? 2017-03-13 13:21:25.96 JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A 2017-03-13 13:21:29.922 WHEELCHAIR, IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU 2017-03-13 13:21:29.923 ARE DIVERSE. 2017-03-13 13:21:29.924 IT JUST MEANS YOU HAVE A 2017-03-13 13:21:33.921 WHEELCHAIR. 2017-03-13 13:21:33.922 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:21:33.923 KEITH: THAT IS SOMETHING WE TALK 2017-03-13 13:21:36.923 ABOUT IN THE ACADEMIC AREA, 2017-03-13 13:21:40.035 WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE 2017-03-13 13:21:45.046 BUT EVEN IN THE WAR -- IN THE 2017-03-13 13:21:47.046 ROOM, YOUR ETHNICITY CANNOT BE 2017-03-13 13:21:47.047 REPRESENTED JUST BY ACCESS TO 2017-03-13 13:21:50.123 HIGHER EDUCATION. 2017-03-13 13:21:50.124 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:21:54.183 CHARLES: 2017-03-13 13:21:54.183 THE LIBERAL BASTION. 2017-03-13 13:22:03.182 ANYONE ELSE CARE TO? 2017-03-13 13:22:03.183 YO-EL: I AM INTERESTED IN 2017-03-13 13:22:09.216 APPROACH, THE ART OF TEACHING. 2017-03-13 13:22:11.24 HOW DO WE CREATE AN ENTRY POINT 2017-03-13 13:22:15.263 INTO ALLOWING ONE TO ASSIMILATE 2017-03-13 13:22:16.265 THE MATERIAL? 2017-03-13 13:22:16.265 NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT TEACHING 2017-03-13 13:22:20.292 STEPS BUT REALLY ABOUT TEACHING 2017-03-13 13:22:23.335 CONCEPTS THAT ALLOW US TO HAVE 2017-03-13 13:22:28.451 CONTAINER FOR FREEDOM TO HAPPEN 2017-03-13 13:22:30.385 IN TERMS OF A SIMULATING STEPS. 2017-03-13 13:22:32.379 IF STEPS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN, 2017-03-13 13:22:33.374 HOW DO YOU DECENT FOR SIZE THE 2017-03-13 13:22:34.417 PROCESS OF THOSE STEPS? 2017-03-13 13:22:37.463 IT IS ABOUT THINKING OUTSIDE OF 2017-03-13 13:22:37.465 THE BOX TO ALLOW FREEDOM OF 2017-03-13 13:22:43.463 EMBRACEMENT, RELATED ABILITY, 2017-03-13 13:22:46.465 ENGAGING AND EXPLORING THE 2017-03-13 13:22:46.466 CONCEPT, BUT IT IS NOT ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:22:52.473 REALLY PULLING OUT THE HUMANITY 2017-03-13 13:22:54.515 AND LETTING THE ART FORM, 2017-03-13 13:22:58.542 LETTING THAT THE A CONTAINER TO 2017-03-13 13:22:58.543 STIMULATE, INSPIRE, AND SUPPORT 2017-03-13 13:23:02.634 THE INDIVIDUALITY. 2017-03-13 13:23:02.634 CHARLES: THERE YOU GO. 2017-03-13 13:23:06.626 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:23:06.627 CHARLES: INTERESTING THAT THAT 2017-03-13 13:23:12.666 SEEMED VERY UNIVERSAL. 2017-03-13 13:23:12.666 YOUR ARTICULATION. 2017-03-13 13:23:14.667 JOHN: MINE WOULD BE ALMOST 2017-03-13 13:23:23.737 MYOPIC INSTEAD OF UNIVERSAL. 2017-03-13 13:23:23.738 I WENT IN LOS ANGELES, A YEAR 2017-03-13 13:23:31.725 AFTER I HAD SURGERY 2017-03-13 13:23:31.726 COMPLICATIONS, I WENT TO A 2017-03-13 13:23:35.719 CONVENING FOR ARTISTS WITH 2017-03-13 13:23:36.871 DISABILITIES AND EVERYONE WAS 2017-03-13 13:23:38.844 COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW HOLLYWOOD 2017-03-13 13:23:40.726 STEREOTYPED. 2017-03-13 13:23:40.727 I WAS LIKE, WHO GIVES A SHIT 2017-03-13 13:23:44.75 ABOUT STEREO -- ABOUT HOLLYWOOD? 2017-03-13 13:23:45.715 WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE OUR OWN 2017-03-13 13:23:50.766 IMAGES. 2017-03-13 13:23:53.88 WE WEREN'T GIVEN THE ACCESS TO 2017-03-13 13:23:54.765 GO TO DANCE CLASSES, BUT PEOPLE 2017-03-13 13:23:55.766 LIKE JUDY MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR 2017-03-13 13:23:57.764 OTHERS TO DO THAT. 2017-03-13 13:23:58.767 I ACTUALLY STARTED MAKING FILMS 2017-03-13 13:24:03.792 ABOUT IT AND I DID NOT CARE IF I 2017-03-13 13:24:04.82 KNEW HOW TO MILK -- TO MAKE 2017-03-13 13:24:07.795 FILMS. 2017-03-13 13:24:07.796 I HAD A BOOK COME OUT ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:24:12.85 DISABLED TO GAY MEN AND THEIR 2017-03-13 13:24:16.91 STORIES. 2017-03-13 13:24:16.911 I DECIDED TO BECOME AS FOCUSED 2017-03-13 13:24:17.919 ABOUT MY REALITY AND NOT ANYONE 2017-03-13 13:24:17.92 ELSE'S REALITY. 2017-03-13 13:24:20.927 THIS WAS ALL I COULD BRING 2017-03-13 13:24:21.922 FORWARD, MINE, AND I FOUND THAT 2017-03-13 13:24:23.933 WAS A WAY -- LET DANIEL DAY 2017-03-13 13:24:26.924 LEWIS WHEN HIS OSCAR FOR LIMPING 2017-03-13 13:24:28.928 AROUND. 2017-03-13 13:24:28.929 IT IS OK. 2017-03-13 13:24:28.93 WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET THOSE 2017-03-13 13:24:34.966 UNLESS WE CREATE THOSE IMAGES 2017-03-13 13:24:35.976 OURSELVES. 2017-03-13 13:24:35.977 I WENT FROM A COMPLETELY 2017-03-13 13:24:36.98 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ABOUT, 2017-03-13 13:24:41.016 THERE IS NO MAINSTREAM IN THIS, 2017-03-13 13:24:49.015 THESE MULTIPLE -- INTO THE 2017-03-13 13:24:50.018 STREAM THAT GO INTO THE OCEAN P 2017-03-13 13:24:51.058 ARE NOW WAS MORE INTERESTED IN 2017-03-13 13:24:51.059 STARTING WITH GRASSROOTS. 2017-03-13 13:24:55.022 I CALLED UP JUDY AND I SAID, CAN 2017-03-13 13:24:55.023 I COME FILM YOU, YOU KNOW, AS 2017-03-13 13:24:59.046 YOUR IMPROVISER? 2017-03-13 13:24:59.047 SHE ALLOWED ME TO DO THAT WE DID 2017-03-13 13:25:05.101 NOT KNOW WHERE WE WOULD GO WITH 2017-03-13 13:25:06.094 IT. 2017-03-13 13:25:06.095 IT BECAME A FILM. 2017-03-13 13:25:07.1 I WENT WITH ARTISTS I KNEW AND 2017-03-13 13:25:11.087 ADMIRE AND STARTED FROM THERE. 2017-03-13 13:25:11.088 I HAVE FOUND IT HAS MAINTAINED 2017-03-13 13:25:16.25 MY ARTISTIC PRACTICE. 2017-03-13 13:25:18.176 YO-EL: -- 2017-03-13 13:25:23.187 JUDY: I TOOK A DIFFERENT 2017-03-13 13:25:25.225 APPROACH. 2017-03-13 13:25:25.226 WE WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE 2017-03-13 13:25:28.299 PEOPLE THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING 2017-03-13 13:25:30.265 IS REALLY DANCE AND NOT JUST 2017-03-13 13:25:31.266 THERAPY. 2017-03-13 13:25:31.267 I TOOK OVER THE ARTISTIC 2017-03-13 13:25:37.274 DIRECTION OF THE COMPANY 10 2017-03-13 13:25:37.275 YEARS IN AND DECIDED WHAT I 2017-03-13 13:25:40.276 REALLY WANTED TO DO WAS 2017-03-13 13:25:40.278 COMMISSION WELL NO ARTIST -- 2017-03-13 13:25:45.287 WELL-KNOWN ARTISTS TO COME IN 2017-03-13 13:25:45.288 AND MAKE IT WORK. 2017-03-13 13:25:45.288 THAT WAS SELFISH BECAUSE I 2017-03-13 13:25:49.343 WANTED TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE 2017-03-13 13:25:51.426 AND COULD NOT GO TO THEIR 2017-03-13 13:25:52.422 STUDIOS AND WORK WITH THEM. 2017-03-13 13:25:52.423 I FELT LIKE IT WOULD INCREASE MY 2017-03-13 13:25:59.468 ABILITY TO LEARN, IT WOULD 2017-03-13 13:26:01.465 INCREASE 2017-03-13 13:26:01.465 WOULD 2017-03-13 13:26:11.011 INCREASE THE QUALITY OF ORACLE 2017-03-13 13:26:11.012 WE ARE DOING BECAUSE IT WAS NOT 2017-03-13 13:26:11.013 AT THE LEVEL I THOUGHT IT COULD 2017-03-13 13:26:11.014 BE, AND THE FIRST REPERTORY OUT 2017-03-13 13:26:13.522 THAT I COMMISSIONED, WE WERE 2017-03-13 13:26:14.549 HERE IN BOSTON, OUR SECOND HOME 2017-03-13 13:26:16.559 FOR ABOUT A DECADE WHEN DANCE 2017-03-13 13:26:18.555 UMBRA WAS HERE. 2017-03-13 13:26:23.595 AERIAL WORK, AND A PIECE BY A 2017-03-13 13:26:31.599 FRENCH CANADIAN CHOREOGRAPHER 2017-03-13 13:26:34.792 WHO WAS JUST BECOMING KNOWN IN 2017-03-13 13:26:34.793 THE BAY AREA. 2017-03-13 13:26:36.749 I SET THE BAR HIGH. 2017-03-13 13:26:38.687 WHAT IT DID WAS COMPLETELY 2017-03-13 13:26:42.716 CHANGE THE WAY THE DANCE WORLD 2017-03-13 13:26:45.717 WAS LOOKING AT OUR WORK. 2017-03-13 13:26:45.718 INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING SYMPATHY 2017-03-13 13:26:49.728 REVIEWS, REVIEWERS WERE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:26:52.72 TAKE THE WORK AND LOOK AT IT IN 2017-03-13 13:26:56.718 THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THEY KNEW 2017-03-13 13:26:56.719 ABOUT BILL'S'S WORK OR JOE'S 2017-03-13 13:26:59.84 WORK, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:27:03.769 START WORKING AND WRITING ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:27:06.766 IT CRITICALLY. 2017-03-13 13:27:06.767 I THINK THE FIRST BIG ARTISTIC 2017-03-13 13:27:10.814 CHOICE I MADE, IT DEFINITELY, 2017-03-13 13:27:16.816 THE IDEA OF COMMISSIONING THESE 2017-03-13 13:27:16.817 CHOREOGRAPHERS REALLY LAUNCHED 2017-03-13 13:27:18.842 AXIS INTO THE MAINSTREAM 2017-03-13 13:27:23.888 CONTEMPORARY DANCE WORLD, NOT 2017-03-13 13:27:24.899 SOMETHING WE WOULD THAN ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:27:25.925 ON OUR OWN. 2017-03-13 13:27:25.925 JOHN: WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER 2017-03-13 13:27:32.971 THROUGH THAT AND I THINK IT IS A 2017-03-13 13:27:34.024 TESTAMENT TO YOU THAT YOU 2017-03-13 13:27:34.025 REALIZED THAT THE EARLY 2017-03-13 13:27:39.018 ITERATION OF THE COMPANY WAS 2017-03-13 13:27:40.025 BUILT ON A THERAPEUTIC MODEL AND 2017-03-13 13:27:40.026 YOU WERE GETTING SYMPATHY 2017-03-13 13:27:44.02 REVIEWS AND YOU SAID THAT IS NOT 2017-03-13 13:27:45.02 GOOD ENOUGH, THAT I WANT TO BE 2017-03-13 13:27:46.021 TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS AN ARTIST, 2017-03-13 13:27:51.08 AND THAT YOU WERE NOT INTERESTED 2017-03-13 13:27:51.081 IN BEING INSPIRATION PORN, TO 2017-03-13 13:27:59.099 COMMENT, LOOK AT HOW PRETTY 2017-03-13 13:28:00.096 THESE PEOPLE LOOK. 2017-03-13 13:28:00.097 JUDY: " ISN'T IT NICE THEY ARE 2017-03-13 13:28:04.1 DOING THAT?" 2017-03-13 13:28:05.095 JOHN: AND YOU SCARED THEM. 2017-03-13 13:28:08.096 JUDY: I KNOW. 2017-03-13 13:28:10.105 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 13:28:11.094 JOHN: JONES SAID WHAT DO I DO 2017-03-13 13:28:15.101 WITH THESE PEOPLE THAT DON'T 2017-03-13 13:28:16.094 MOVE? 2017-03-13 13:28:16.095 I SAID THEY MOVE. 2017-03-13 13:28:16.096 YOU HAVE JUST GOT TO LOOK 2017-03-13 13:28:19.114 DIFFERENTLY. 2017-03-13 13:28:19.115 YOU LOOK. 2017-03-13 13:28:19.116 HE SAID AFTERWARDS THAT IT 2017-03-13 13:28:24.096 COMPLETELY CHANGED HIS WORLDVIEW 2017-03-13 13:28:24.097 OF MOVEMENT. 2017-03-13 13:28:24.098 JUDY: I THINK IT HAS TO A LOT OF 2017-03-13 13:28:29.105 CHOREOGRAPHERS WE WORK WITH. 2017-03-13 13:28:30.115 MOST OF THEM, THE FIRST THING 2017-03-13 13:28:32.18 BILL SAID IS I AM REALLY 2017-03-13 13:28:33.18 INTIMIDATED. 2017-03-13 13:28:33.18 I SAID, YOU ARE INTIMIDATED? 2017-03-13 13:28:34.177 LOOKING AT THIS DANCE GOD. 2017-03-13 13:28:37.177 STEPHEN, SAME THING. 2017-03-13 13:28:43.321 JOE IS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I 2017-03-13 13:28:45.349 WILL DO WITH YOU PEOPLE. 2017-03-13 13:28:46.385 HE HAS CREATED THREE WORKS NOW 2017-03-13 13:28:47.385 AND ONE OF THEM WE JUST 2017-03-13 13:28:48.391 PERFORMED IN THE ARTS IN THE 2017-03-13 13:28:48.392 MILITARY ABOUT VETERANS 2017-03-13 13:28:51.389 EXPERIENCE OF RESILIENCE. 2017-03-13 13:28:51.39 BILL HAD TO LOOK AT UNISON 2017-03-13 13:29:01.472 COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY WITH OUR 2017-03-13 13:29:01.473 COMPANY. 2017-03-13 13:29:01.474 WE REALLY OFFER A WHOLE PALETTE 2017-03-13 13:29:10.567 OF MOVEMENT COLOR THAT DID NOT 2017-03-13 13:29:10.568 EXIST BEFORE. 2017-03-13 13:29:10.569 CHARLES: THAT COMMENT REMINDS ME 2017-03-13 13:29:18.597 OF THE INTERNATIONAL WHEELCHAIR 2017-03-13 13:29:18.598 DANCE FESTIVAL. 2017-03-13 13:29:20.596 THIS IS GOING BACK A WAYS. 2017-03-13 13:29:25.695 JUDY: 20 YEARS. 2017-03-13 13:29:27.69 CHARLES: ONE THING YOU WERE 2017-03-13 13:29:30.687 TRYING TO DO WAS TO BEGIN TO 2017-03-13 13:29:33.679 BUILD OUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR 2017-03-13 13:29:36.747 PEOPLE TO LEARN. 2017-03-13 13:29:36.748 NOT ONLY TO CREATE A LIGHT WHICH 2017-03-13 13:29:42.726 OF COURIC -- CHOREOGRAPHY AROUND 2017-03-13 13:29:42.727 THESE MOVEMENTS BUT TO ACTUALLY 2017-03-13 13:29:45.723 BEGIN THE PROCESS OF TRAINING 2017-03-13 13:29:45.724 PEOPLE TO ENABLE THEM TO PURSUE 2017-03-13 13:29:52.723 THEIR CAREERS. 2017-03-13 13:29:52.724 THAT IS A GOOD SEGUE TO THE 2017-03-13 13:29:55.728 SECOND QUESTION WE HAD, ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:30:01.054 HOW DID YOU RECEIVE THE 2017-03-13 13:30:01.821 TRAINING, HOW DID YOU LEARN TO 2017-03-13 13:30:01.823 DO WHAT YOU DO? 2017-03-13 13:30:03.831 THIS CAN BE A POPCORN APPROACH 2017-03-13 13:30:09.84 AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO CHIME 2017-03-13 13:30:10.849 IN IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE IT, 2017-03-13 13:30:10.85 BUT, HOW DID YOU RECEIVE THE 2017-03-13 13:30:17.858 TRAINING YOU NEED IT? 2017-03-13 13:30:17.859 KEITH: AS AN ARTIST WHO DOES 2017-03-13 13:30:28.936 GRAPHIC ART PERFORMANCE ART, 2017-03-13 13:30:33.993 THERE WAS NO REAL PLACE YOU 2017-03-13 13:30:34.975 COULD GO AND HAVE A DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:30:36.978 YOU SAY, I WANT TO LEARN PIANO. 2017-03-13 13:30:39.006 I ROLL IN AND SAY I WANT TO PLAY 2017-03-13 13:30:39.99 PIANO WITH MY FOOT, THEY WILL 2017-03-13 13:30:42.04 SAY, WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU 2017-03-13 13:30:45.074 DOING? 2017-03-13 13:30:45.075 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 13:30:46.098 KEITH: SO THE TRAINING WAS A 2017-03-13 13:30:50.14 MIXTURE OF JUST DESIRE TO BE AN 2017-03-13 13:30:53.145 ARTIST, BECAUSE AS AN ARTIST, IT 2017-03-13 13:30:56.141 IS NOT AN EXTERNAL MOTIVATOR. 2017-03-13 13:31:00.149 IT IS AN INTERNAL NEED TO 2017-03-13 13:31:03.145 EXPRESS YOUR ART. 2017-03-13 13:31:04.148 THE WAY I LEARNED IT IN THE 2017-03-13 13:31:07.183 1980'S, AND THE 1970'S WITH 2017-03-13 13:31:07.184 HIP-HOP, THAT OTHER ART FORM, IT 2017-03-13 13:31:11.193 ALLOWED FREEDOM BECAUSE THERE 2017-03-13 13:31:15.337 WAS NO SCHOOL OF HIP-HOP. 2017-03-13 13:31:16.238 THERE WAS NO SCHOOL OF 2017-03-13 13:31:18.241 PROFESSIONAL BREAKDANCING OR 2017-03-13 13:31:21.245 PROFESSIONAL GRAFFITI ARTISTS. 2017-03-13 13:31:21.245 IT EVOLVED INTO NOW, EVERY 2017-03-13 13:31:27.251 COMMERCIAL YOU LISTEN TO HAS A 2017-03-13 13:31:27.252 TOUCH OF HIP-HOP. 2017-03-13 13:31:29.275 THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE 2017-03-13 13:31:32.281 NEVER REALLY SAW. 2017-03-13 13:31:36.321 THE WAY I LEARNED WAS THROUGH 2017-03-13 13:31:38.323 TRIAL AND ERROR. 2017-03-13 13:31:42.325 AS A PERSON WITH A VISIBLE 2017-03-13 13:31:43.356 DISABILITY RULING ON STAGE, TRY 2017-03-13 13:31:46.323 TO BE A GANGSTER RAPPER, IT IS 2017-03-13 13:31:46.323 HARD. 2017-03-13 13:31:51.337 THE WAY WE LEARNED IT WAS JUST 2017-03-13 13:31:58.376 BY DOING, AND ONLY NOW DO WE GET 2017-03-13 13:31:59.379 RECOGNIZED, WE HAVE PERFECTED 2017-03-13 13:32:04.442 OUR CRAFTER A LOT OF THAT WAS 2017-03-13 13:32:04.443 TRIAL AND ERROR. 2017-03-13 13:32:06.433 A LOT OF THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, AS 2017-03-13 13:32:10.438 A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY IN 2017-03-13 13:32:13.434 THE ARTS FIELD, THE FIRST 2017-03-13 13:32:13.435 REACTION PEOPLE HAVE FOR YOU IS 2017-03-13 13:32:18.486 THEIR OWN INSECURITIES IN TERMS 2017-03-13 13:32:18.487 OF, OK, YOU ROLL IN, THE THING 2017-03-13 13:32:24.526 ABOUT DISABILITY IS THAT IT 2017-03-13 13:32:24.527 CHALLENGES YOUR MORTALITY. 2017-03-13 13:32:28.588 THEY LOOK AT YOU AND GO, BUT FOR 2017-03-13 13:32:29.76 THE GRACE OF GOD THERE GEOEYE. 2017-03-13 13:32:30.672 THE WAY WE LEARNED AGAIN IS 2017-03-13 13:32:34.603 THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR, 2017-03-13 13:32:37.609 PERFECTION. 2017-03-13 13:32:37.609 JUDY: I AM AN ARTIST, WELL NOT 2017-03-13 13:32:47.603 AN ARTIST, I AM A DANCER TOTALLY 2017-03-13 13:32:48.645 BY ACCIDENT REALLY. 2017-03-13 13:32:50.646 I USED TO SHOW JUMPING HORSES I 2017-03-13 13:32:55.686 WAS VERY PHYSICAL. 2017-03-13 13:32:59.687 I SAT STILL FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS 2017-03-13 13:33:03.699 UNTIL I HAD THE BRAINS TO MOVE 2017-03-13 13:33:04.703 FROM COLORADO TO CALIFORNIA AND 2017-03-13 13:33:04.704 I MET SOMEONE AND STARTED DOING 2017-03-13 13:33:07.697 IMPROVISATIONAL MOVEMENT WHICH 2017-03-13 13:33:07.697 CHANGED MY LIFE. 2017-03-13 13:33:08.754 THERE WAS NOT A WAY FOR ME TO GO 2017-03-13 13:33:13.777 AND LEARN DANCE. 2017-03-13 13:33:13.778 I EDUCATED MYSELF BY LITERALLY 2017-03-13 13:33:16.848 GOING TO SEE EVERY SINGLE DAMN 2017-03-13 13:33:21.841 DANCE PERFORMANCE I COULD. 2017-03-13 13:33:21.842 I READ EVERYTHING I COULD. 2017-03-13 13:33:21.843 I SEARCHED OUT EVERYTHING I 2017-03-13 13:33:26.948 COULD, WHICH, 30 YEARS AGO, WE 2017-03-13 13:33:27.859 DID NOT HAVE THE INTERNET. 2017-03-13 13:33:28.856 SO WE DID NOT KNOW THAT THIS 2017-03-13 13:33:32.854 FORM OF DANCE WAS HAPPENING ALL 2017-03-13 13:33:33.855 OVER THE WORLD AND POPPING UP AT 2017-03-13 13:33:34.858 ABOUT THE SAME TIME. 2017-03-13 13:33:36.885 I THINK REALLY AS A RESULT OF 2017-03-13 13:33:41.904 WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN DANCE, 2017-03-13 13:33:43.893 WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE CHURCH, 2017-03-13 13:33:47.919 PEOPLE WERE MUCH MORE INTERESTED 2017-03-13 13:33:48.905 IN PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT, 2017-03-13 13:33:51.939 DIFFERENT KINDS OF MOVEMENT, 2017-03-13 13:33:52.986 COMING OUT OF 10 YEARS OF THE 2017-03-13 13:33:55.938 INDEPENDENT LIVING MOVEMENT AND 2017-03-13 13:33:58.943 DISABILITY RIGHTS, HAVE BEEN 2017-03-13 13:34:00.994 HAPPENING. 2017-03-13 13:34:00.995 IT WAS AN INTERESTING 2017-03-13 13:34:07.08 CONCENTRATION OF THOSE TWO 2017-03-13 13:34:07.081 THINGS. 2017-03-13 13:34:07.082 BUT EVEN TODAY, THE ONLY WAY 2017-03-13 13:34:12.09 SOMEONE COULD GO GET A DEGREE IN 2017-03-13 13:34:12.091 DANCE IS THROUGH THEIR OWN 2017-03-13 13:34:19.109 PERSISTENCE AND USUALLY BY 2017-03-13 13:34:19.109 FINDING MAY BE ONE PROFESSOR WHO 2017-03-13 13:34:23.147 WILL REALLY CHAMPION AND MENTOR 2017-03-13 13:34:23.148 THEM. 2017-03-13 13:34:23.148 SO ONE OF THE THINGS AXIS HAS 2017-03-13 13:34:31.19 DONE, WE REALIZED EARLY ON WHEN 2017-03-13 13:34:32.187 PEOPLE SAID I WANT TO LEARN HOW 2017-03-13 13:34:33.189 TO DO THIS, WHERE DO I GO, WE 2017-03-13 13:34:35.195 HAD NO WHERE TO SEND THEM, WE 2017-03-13 13:34:36.194 STARTED TO START EDUCATION WITH 2017-03-13 13:34:40.19 MONTHLY COMMUNITY DANCE JAM, 60% 2017-03-13 13:34:43.199 WHAT WE DO AND WE ARE KIND OF 2017-03-13 13:34:43.2 THE PROFESSIONAL TRAINING GROUND 2017-03-13 13:34:49.345 FOR DISABLED DANCERS I THINK 2017-03-13 13:34:49.345 INTERNATIONALLY AT THIS POINT. 2017-03-13 13:34:50.325 WE REALIZED WE NEEDED TO TRAIN 2017-03-13 13:34:54.338 OUR OWN DANCERS. 2017-03-13 13:34:54.339 A LOT OF US THAT CAME INTO THE 2017-03-13 13:34:57.339 FIELD, IT IS ON-THE-JOB 2017-03-13 13:35:00.341 TRAINING. 2017-03-13 13:35:00.342 CHARLES: ANY OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS 2017-03-13 13:35:07.346 TO THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW YOU 2017-03-13 13:35:12.401 GET THE TRAINING YOU NEED? 2017-03-13 13:35:12.402 YO-EL: FOR ME AT A YOUNG AGE, I 2017-03-13 13:35:15.466 WAS ABOUT WATCH ROW OR FIVE -- 2017-03-13 13:35:19.526 FOUR OR FIVE. 2017-03-13 13:35:23.593 I WAS NOT QUITE FINDING JOY AND 2017-03-13 13:35:24.484 PRESENCE IN MY EXPRESSION AND MY 2017-03-13 13:35:28.52 WAY TO EXPRESS MYSELF HERE I 2017-03-13 13:35:30.484 WENT TO THE SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF 2017-03-13 13:35:32.484 IN NEW YORK AND THEY TOLD US TO 2017-03-13 13:35:34.483 PHYSICALLY OR LIKE A LION AND I 2017-03-13 13:35:36.484 FOUND IT. 2017-03-13 13:35:37.484 I BECAME HUNGRY FOR MOVEMENT 2017-03-13 13:35:43.577 EXPRESSION. 2017-03-13 13:35:45.575 I FOUND THAT MOVEMENT WAS A 2017-03-13 13:35:49.575 CHANNEL TO EXPRESS MY INNER 2017-03-13 13:35:49.576 THOUGHTS AND IMAGINATION AND IT 2017-03-13 13:35:52.577 WAS A WAY TO TELL MY STORY AND I 2017-03-13 13:35:53.577 OFTEN TELL PEOPLE IF YOU WANT TO 2017-03-13 13:35:58.586 KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT ME, 2017-03-13 13:35:58.587 LOOK AT MY WORK AND IN TERMS OF 2017-03-13 13:36:00.814 TRAINING, THE BIGGEST THING FOR 2017-03-13 13:36:05.651 ME WAS I WAS SUCH A SLOW 2017-03-13 13:36:08.651 LEARNER, IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO 2017-03-13 13:36:08.652 ASSIMILATE. 2017-03-13 13:36:08.653 I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF 2017-03-13 13:36:10.653 CHALLENGES THAT REALLY HELPED ME 2017-03-13 13:36:12.652 DEVELOP AS AN EDUCATOR TO LOOK 2017-03-13 13:36:15.688 AT THE CHALLENGES IN MANY 2017-03-13 13:36:17.651 DIFFERENT WAYS. 2017-03-13 13:36:18.65 WHAT MIGHT WORK WITH THIS ONE 2017-03-13 13:36:22.655 INDIVIDUAL MAY NOT WORK WITH 2017-03-13 13:36:23.701 THIS ONE. 2017-03-13 13:36:24.696 SO HOW DO I TAKE THE 2017-03-13 13:36:29.736 EXPERIENCES, THE FORMAL TRAINING 2017-03-13 13:36:29.737 I HAVE HAD, INFORMAL, CHARACTER 2017-03-13 13:36:33.781 WORK, ALL THE THINGS I WAS 2017-03-13 13:36:33.782 HUNGRY ABOUT, MOVEMENT ALL 2017-03-13 13:36:37.826 AROUND US AND THE WAY WE 2017-03-13 13:36:37.827 COMMUNICATE THROUGH MOVEMENT, IT 2017-03-13 13:36:38.885 IS REALLY ABOUT HOW DO WE USE 2017-03-13 13:36:42.837 MOVEMENT AS A WAY TO EXPRESS 2017-03-13 13:36:42.838 INNER THOUGHTS AND TO EMBRACE 2017-03-13 13:36:46.878 OUR IDENTITY IN RELATION TO 2017-03-13 13:36:49.865 IMPRESSING THE MATERIAL PAIRED 2017-03-13 13:36:50.864 IT IS NOT ABOUT ME TRYING TO 2017-03-13 13:36:50.865 IMPRESS THE AUDIENCE OR MYSELF. 2017-03-13 13:36:52.902 IT IS ABOUT ME TRYING TO IMPRESS 2017-03-13 13:36:55.987 THE MATERIAL. 2017-03-13 13:36:55.988 IF I HAVE MY HANDS AND I AM 2017-03-13 13:37:01.03 RUBBING ON MY HANDS, I'M NOT 2017-03-13 13:37:01.031 LOOKING AT HER HERE AND I'M 2017-03-13 13:37:02.031 LOOKING AT THE HANDS AND I SEE 2017-03-13 13:37:05.029 WHERE THOSE HANDS TAKE ME. 2017-03-13 13:37:05.03 THOSE WERE THE THINGS I WAS 2017-03-13 13:37:09.036 REALLY INTERESTED IN AND THAT 2017-03-13 13:37:09.037 WAS THE WAY I WAS LIKE, THIS IS 2017-03-13 13:37:12.09 HOW I WILL TRAIN. 2017-03-13 13:37:13.133 I WILL FOLLOW MOVEMENT, WHEREVER 2017-03-13 13:37:15.128 I CAN SMELL IT OR BE AROUND 2017-03-13 13:37:19.155 PEOPLE WHO CAN PROVIDE THOSE 2017-03-13 13:37:19.156 EXPERIENCES. 2017-03-13 13:37:19.157 THOSE ARE LESSONS I TAKE IN MY 2017-03-13 13:37:21.24 LIFE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO BRING 2017-03-13 13:37:23.236 BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. 2017-03-13 13:37:24.237 CHARLES: GREAT -- 2017-03-13 13:37:28.241 JOHN: DANCE LOVE IF I COULD. 2017-03-13 13:37:31.239 I RUN THE FLYNN CENTER IN 2017-03-13 13:37:39.239 VERMONT. 2017-03-13 13:37:39.24 I HAVE NO TRAINING IN ARTS 2017-03-13 13:37:43.399 ADMINISTRATION. 2017-03-13 13:37:44.279 I STARTED AS A DANCER AND 2017-03-13 13:37:44.279 PERFORMED. 2017-03-13 13:37:44.28 DANCE SORT OF GAVE ME ALL OF THE 2017-03-13 13:37:47.287 SKILLS I NEEDED. 2017-03-13 13:37:47.287 I LEARNED ABOUT THE WISDOM OF A 2017-03-13 13:37:53.278 GROUP, I LEARNED SOMETIMES YOU 2017-03-13 13:37:55.285 ARE A SOLOIST, SOMETIMES YOU ARE 2017-03-13 13:37:55.286 PART OF THE ENSEMBLE, IT GAVE ME 2017-03-13 13:38:00.329 POISE, CULTURAL LITERACY, IT 2017-03-13 13:38:03.378 GAVE ME THINGS THAT EVERY DAY 2017-03-13 13:38:04.407 YOU START AGAIN, AND DEPENDING 2017-03-13 13:38:06.412 ON WHICH DANCE FORM, YOU EITHER 2017-03-13 13:38:07.408 START WITH A PLIE, A 2017-03-13 13:38:12.498 CONTRACTION, AND YOU BEGIN 2017-03-13 13:38:13.635 AGAIN. 2017-03-13 13:38:13.636 AS YOU BUILD MATERIAL, GET -- 2017-03-13 13:38:17.492 DANCERS WORK TOO PERFECT 2017-03-13 13:38:17.493 MATERIAL AND IT DOES NOT WORK, 2017-03-13 13:38:20.498 YOU DROP IT OR YOU LET IT GO, 2017-03-13 13:38:22.495 AND NOT EVERYTHING YOU HOLD 2017-03-13 13:38:22.496 ONTO. 2017-03-13 13:38:22.497 THAT STUFF HAS ALWAYS BEEN 2017-03-13 13:38:26.531 IMPORTANT TO ME, AS A DANCER, 2017-03-13 13:38:28.53 TODAY AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, ALSO 2017-03-13 13:38:31.533 AS I BEGAN TO START DOING MY OWN 2017-03-13 13:38:31.534 WRITING, MY OWN FILMMAKING ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:38:37.634 WORK THAT I WAS NOT WORRIED I 2017-03-13 13:38:37.635 DID NOT KNOW THE SKIT -- KNOW 2017-03-13 13:38:41.633 THE SKILLS, THAT WOULD BE PART 2017-03-13 13:38:41.634 OF THE JOURNEY AND I WOULD 2017-03-13 13:38:44.638 ACQUIRE THE SKILLS OF DISCIPLINE 2017-03-13 13:38:44.638 AND THAT IS IMPORTANT. 2017-03-13 13:38:44.639 FINALLY, I HAD SURGERY, I HAD A 2017-03-13 13:38:50.631 TUMOR INSIDE MY SPINAL CORD, THE 2017-03-13 13:38:56.698 RIGHT SIDE OF MY BODY HAS NO 2017-03-13 13:38:56.699 SINCE ASIAN AND I HAVE LOST 2017-03-13 13:39:01.742 LOCATION IN THE LEFT SIDE OF MY 2017-03-13 13:39:01.742 BODY. 2017-03-13 13:39:01.743 MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS FIND 2017-03-13 13:39:06.741 IT IMPOSSIBLE REALLY TO STAND. 2017-03-13 13:39:06.742 THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE 2017-03-13 13:39:11.751 GROUND. 2017-03-13 13:39:11.752 IN REHAB, NOTHING WAS WORKING. 2017-03-13 13:39:11.753 I SAID TO BRING THE MIRROR OVER 2017-03-13 13:39:16.785 AND THEY SAID WHY AN ICE THAT 2017-03-13 13:39:17.788 WELL, A DANCER, AND I WAS 2017-03-13 13:39:22.784 THINKING, GET ME OUT OF THE BED, 2017-03-13 13:39:23.844 PICK ME UP AND MOVE ME INTO THE 2017-03-13 13:39:24.829 CHAIR, AND STILL I HAVE NO 2017-03-13 13:39:28.83 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GROUND AND 2017-03-13 13:39:29.867 I THOUGHT SOMEHOW MY BODY SEEMS 2017-03-13 13:39:30.942 LIKE IT COULD PULL ITSELF UP. 2017-03-13 13:39:31.909 I SAID I THINK I CAN LEARN TO 2017-03-13 13:39:32.907 STAND UP VISUALLY. 2017-03-13 13:39:34.908 THEY WERE LIKE, THAT IS 2017-03-13 13:39:36.906 BACKWARDS. 2017-03-13 13:39:36.906 I SAID, HEY, NOTHING ELSE IS 2017-03-13 13:39:40.994 WORKING. 2017-03-13 13:39:40.995 IT WAS BECAUSE AS A DANCER I 2017-03-13 13:39:48.034 LEARNED MOVEMENT IN THE MIRROR 2017-03-13 13:39:48.035 THAT I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AND SAY, 2017-03-13 13:39:52.034 OK, THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TO 2017-03-13 13:39:52.035 STAND UP. 2017-03-13 13:39:53.032 IF I HAD NOT HAD THE DANCE 2017-03-13 13:39:57.033 TRAINING, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:39:58.222 BE NAVIGATED WITH A CANE RIGHT 2017-03-13 13:39:58.223 NOW. 2017-03-13 13:40:01.094 EVERY DAY I'M GRATEFUL I HAD 2017-03-13 13:40:03.048 DANCE TRAINING. 2017-03-13 13:40:03.048 YO-EL: WHAT IS SO INTERESTING 2017-03-13 13:40:07.13 ABOUT THAT IT IS THE IDEA OF 2017-03-13 13:40:09.143 REFUGE -- REPETITION P OR YOU 2017-03-13 13:40:11.135 HAVE DAILY WARM-UP, BALLET 2017-03-13 13:40:15.13 CLASSIC, AND REPETITION HELPS 2017-03-13 13:40:16.135 DEVELOP AND STIMULATE TRAINING, 2017-03-13 13:40:21.132 TO EXPERIENCE AND DIG DEEPER 2017-03-13 13:40:21.132 INTO THE IDEA AND ALSO 2017-03-13 13:40:25.158 PERSISTING, OF STAYING TRUE TO 2017-03-13 13:40:25.159 THE TASK AND LETTING THAT 2017-03-13 13:40:28.159 EXPERIENCE IN FORM. 2017-03-13 13:40:30.167 THAT IS WHAT IS INTERESTING 2017-03-13 13:40:33.203 ABOUT A DANCE EXPERIENCE, WHERE 2017-03-13 13:40:38.204 CAN YOU CREATE AN EXPERIENCE 2017-03-13 13:40:39.207 THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DEVELOP YOUR 2017-03-13 13:40:39.207 SKILL SET IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS 2017-03-13 13:40:44.206 YOU TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP A 2017-03-13 13:40:45.204 RELATION TO THE SKILL SET? 2017-03-13 13:40:46.204 REPETITION, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:40:49.202 PHYSICAL OWNERSHIP, POSITIONING 2017-03-13 13:40:54.204 IN YOUR BODY, AND WHERE YOU WERE 2017-03-13 13:40:56.245 , THOSE ARE APPROACHES, ONCE 2017-03-13 13:40:58.294 AGAIN, THAT IT IS INSTRUMENTAL 2017-03-13 13:41:02.284 IN DEVELOPING AND HELPING WITH 2017-03-13 13:41:06.294 SUPPORT TRAINING IN A MYRIAD OF 2017-03-13 13:41:06.294 WAYS. 2017-03-13 13:41:06.295 CHARLES: A QUICK WRAPUP IS YOU 2017-03-13 13:41:12.293 HAVE GOT TO DO IT. 2017-03-13 13:41:14.334 YOU HAVE GOT TO GET OUT THERE 2017-03-13 13:41:16.389 AND DO IT. 2017-03-13 13:41:16.39 MAKE IT HAPPEN. 2017-03-13 13:41:16.391 DOING IT BACKWARDS ALSO WORKS, 2017-03-13 13:41:26.457 APPARENTLY. 2017-03-13 13:41:26.458 I HAVE PLENTY MORE QUESTIONS 2017-03-13 13:41:35.513 HERE, AND WE GOT STARTED A 2017-03-13 13:41:35.514 LITTLE LATE. 2017-03-13 13:41:35.515 I WILL ASK FOR MY PANELS 2017-03-13 13:41:40.539 INDULGENCE. 2017-03-13 13:41:40.54 WE WILL COME BACK TO THE OTHER 2017-03-13 13:41:40.541 TWO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK WE 2017-03-13 13:41:53.663 WANT TO HEAR COMMENTS AND 2017-03-13 13:41:53.664 QUESTIONS. 2017-03-13 13:41:53.665 WE WILL WAIT FOR THE MICROPHONE, 2017-03-13 13:42:03.662 AND WE WILL CONFLATE THE LAST 2017-03-13 13:42:06.664 TWO QUESTIONS IN OUR BONUS ROUND 2017-03-13 13:42:10.662 IF THAT IS OK. 2017-03-13 13:42:10.663 ANYBODY CARE TO -- 2017-03-13 13:42:15.661 >> >> I AM A DANCER AND I TEACH 2017-03-13 13:42:27.693 KIDS A LOT. 2017-03-13 13:42:28.662 SOMETIMES I DO A DANCE ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:42:30.663 DISABILITY AND SOMETIMES I DO 2017-03-13 13:42:30.664 MOVEMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS 2017-03-13 13:42:30.665 COOL. 2017-03-13 13:42:30.665 THE AUDIENCE WILL SAY I LOVE 2017-03-13 13:42:34.728 WITH THAT SAID ABOUT DISABILITY 2017-03-13 13:42:35.708 AND SOMETIMES I AM LIKE, OK, BUT 2017-03-13 13:42:37.748 NOT REALLY. 2017-03-13 13:42:37.749 SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU 2017-03-13 13:42:40.75 GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT JUDY:? 2017-03-13 13:42:43.788 -- AND THAT? 2017-03-13 13:42:45.789 JUDY: THAT IS ALWAYS A GOOD ONE. 2017-03-13 13:42:51.809 ONE THING I WANTED TO DO WHEN I 2017-03-13 13:42:55.791 TOOK OVER THE COMPANY WAS NOT DO 2017-03-13 13:42:55.792 THINGS ABOUT DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:42:59.789 I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD SAY MORE 2017-03-13 13:43:00.798 ABOUT ABILITY, WE ARE NOT A 2017-03-13 13:43:02.845 WHEELCHAIR DANCE CUBBY OR A 2017-03-13 13:43:07.833 DISABLED DANCE COMPANY. 2017-03-13 13:43:08.838 WE HAVE NONDISABLED DANCERS 2017-03-13 13:43:09.835 EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO THE WORK. 2017-03-13 13:43:09.835 THAT SAID, WE ALSO REALIZED 2017-03-13 13:43:14.835 EARLY ON THERE WAS A SOCIAL AND 2017-03-13 13:43:17.886 A POLITICAL IMPACT TO WHAT WE 2017-03-13 13:43:19.913 WERE DOING BECAUSE YOU DID NOT 2017-03-13 13:43:23.997 SEE DISABLED PEOPLE ON STAGE AND 2017-03-13 13:43:25.021 YOU DID NOT SEE DISABLED AND 2017-03-13 13:43:26.997 NONDISABLED PEOPLE CREATING WORK 2017-03-13 13:43:29.042 AS EQUALS, AND THE OTHER SIDE OF 2017-03-13 13:43:31.041 THAT IS PEOPLE COME TO WORK, 2017-03-13 13:43:38.039 THEY COME TO SEE THINGS WITH THE 2017-03-13 13:43:40.04 BAGGAGE THEY BRING IN. 2017-03-13 13:43:40.041 WITH ALL OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE 2017-03-13 13:43:46.047 BEEN ACCULTURATED IN THIS 2017-03-13 13:43:46.047 COUNTRY, AND ALL OF THE ISSUES 2017-03-13 13:43:51.088 AND STIGMA AROUND DISABILITY, 2017-03-13 13:43:55.136 BUT I HAD A FUNNY THING BECAUSE 2017-03-13 13:43:56.138 I FEEL LIKE IT IS HARD FOR 2017-03-13 13:43:56.139 PEOPLE TO SEE THE WORK, 2017-03-13 13:44:00.135 ESPECIALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME, 2017-03-13 13:44:02.134 AND NOT JUST SEE THE DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:44:03.138 I THINK AFTER USE -- AFTER YOU 2017-03-13 13:44:08.138 GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 2017-03-13 13:44:08.139 STARE AT YOU FOR AN HOUR AND A 2017-03-13 13:44:09.136 HALF, THAT SOMEHOW NORMALIZES 2017-03-13 13:44:13.193 DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:44:18.207 AND THEY STOP SEEING JUST THE 2017-03-13 13:44:20.207 DISABILITY AND START SEEING THE 2017-03-13 13:44:21.211 MOVEMENT. 2017-03-13 13:44:21.212 MY FRIEND TOLD ME ONCE THAT SHE 2017-03-13 13:44:26.221 DID THIS PIECE AND AFTERWARDS, 2017-03-13 13:44:26.222 SOMEONE CAME UP TO HER AND SHE 2017-03-13 13:44:29.251 IS NOT DISABLED, SO I THINK THIS 2017-03-13 13:44:33.252 IS A CONTEMPORARY DANCE DILEMMA, 2017-03-13 13:44:37.253 "I LOVE THE PIECE ABOUT THE 2017-03-13 13:44:39.252 COCKROACH IN THE REFRIGERATOR." 2017-03-13 13:44:40.254 THAT IS THE BEAUTY ABOUT DANCE 2017-03-13 13:44:43.341 BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN COME INTO IT 2017-03-13 13:44:46.386 WITH ALL OF THE STUFF IN THE 2017-03-13 13:44:49.446 THEATER AND YOU CAN KIND OF COME 2017-03-13 13:44:51.52 TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSION AND YOUR 2017-03-13 13:44:51.521 OWN IDEA ABOUT WHAT IT WAS 2017-03-13 13:44:55.419 ABOUT. 2017-03-13 13:44:55.42 I THINK WE ARE STILL AT A PLACE 2017-03-13 13:45:02.469 THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR 2017-03-13 13:45:02.47 PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE THIS. 2017-03-13 13:45:09.463 WE HAVE STEREOTYPES ABOUT PEOPLE 2017-03-13 13:45:09.464 OF COLOR AND GAY LESBIAN QUEER 2017-03-13 13:45:12.465 TRANCE, YOU KNOW, BISEXUAL 2017-03-13 13:45:16.466 PEOPLE. 2017-03-13 13:45:16.467 AND MUSLIMS. 2017-03-13 13:45:17.474 SO WE ARE JUST CONTINUALLY 2017-03-13 13:45:22.462 STEREOTYPED AND STEREOTYPING. 2017-03-13 13:45:22.463 IT TAKES A LOT TO KIND OF 2017-03-13 13:45:27.498 OVERCOME THAT. 2017-03-13 13:45:27.499 I THINK THE MORE YOU GET IN 2017-03-13 13:45:27.5 FRONT OF PEOPLE AND THE MORE 2017-03-13 13:45:30.549 THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE 2017-03-13 13:45:33.55 THAT YOU ARE JUST PART OF THE 2017-03-13 13:45:33.551 GANG ON EARTH -- 2017-03-13 13:45:36.547 JOHN: I THINK IT IS ALSO A 2017-03-13 13:45:40.545 MARKETING ISSUE BOTH FOR ARTISTS 2017-03-13 13:45:43.57 WITH DISABILITIES AND 2017-03-13 13:45:43.571 PRESENTERS. 2017-03-13 13:45:43.572 WHEN MARCUS ROBERTS, A GREAT 2017-03-13 13:45:49.588 JAZZ PIANIST, PLAYS, HE HAPPENS 2017-03-13 13:45:50.591 TO BE BLIND, BUT I'M NOT SELLING 2017-03-13 13:45:53.614 HIS LIKENESS. 2017-03-13 13:45:56.637 I'M SELLING HIS JAZZ TRIO. 2017-03-13 13:45:56.638 AN ARTIST WHO IS A NATIONAL 2017-03-13 13:46:00.639 SPOKESPERSON ON AUTISM, WHEN WE 2017-03-13 13:46:03.641 DID AN EXHIBITION OF HIS WORK, 2017-03-13 13:46:07.639 HIS INTERPRETER SAID TO ME, 2017-03-13 13:46:09.639 LARRY REALLY DOES NOT WANT 2017-03-13 13:46:12.688 AUTISM TO BE IN THE NARRATIVE 2017-03-13 13:46:13.713 FRAME OF WHAT THIS WORK IS. 2017-03-13 13:46:15.761 EVERYONE WILL COME IN AND LOOK 2017-03-13 13:46:16.76 AT, LOOK AT WHAT THIS GUY WITH 2017-03-13 13:46:16.761 AUTISM DID. 2017-03-13 13:46:17.761 HE WOULD REALLY LIKE THE 2017-03-13 13:46:19.872 PAINTINGS TO BE VIEWED AS 2017-03-13 13:46:21.801 PAINTINGS. 2017-03-13 13:46:21.802 I THINK IT IS AN INTERESTING 2017-03-13 13:46:27.795 DILEMMA ABOUT HOW TO BALANCE WHO 2017-03-13 13:46:27.796 WE ARE. 2017-03-13 13:46:30.812 WE LEAD WITH THE ARTIST 2017-03-13 13:46:36.84 FIRST-PERIOD LEAD WITH THE 2017-03-13 13:46:36.841 PERSON FIRST. 2017-03-13 13:46:37.838 WE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE ART 2017-03-13 13:46:39.842 FIRST-PERIOD I MADE A SHORT FILM 2017-03-13 13:46:46.934 , IT WAS NOT AN AXIS PROJECT, 2017-03-13 13:46:50.941 BUT DANCERS WERE WORKING WITH 2017-03-13 13:46:51.938 ANOTHER CHOREOGRAPHER, I HAD 2017-03-13 13:46:54.938 GIVEN THEM THE VOICEOVER AHEAD 2017-03-13 13:46:55.955 OF TIME, CALLED DREAMING AWAKE. 2017-03-13 13:46:59.942 I SAID TO THE DANCERS, LET'S NOT 2017-03-13 13:47:01.968 HAVE ANY OF YOUR APPARATUS IN 2017-03-13 13:47:01.969 THERE. 2017-03-13 13:47:01.97 IF YOU ARE IN A CHAIR, YOU WOULD 2017-03-13 13:47:06.047 BE ON THE GROUND AND NOT IN A 2017-03-13 13:47:08.209 CHAIR. 2017-03-13 13:47:08.209 IF YOU WALK WITH GAINS, NO 2017-03-13 13:47:08.21 CANES. 2017-03-13 13:47:08.21 -- WITH CANES, NO CANES. 2017-03-13 13:47:14.138 IT WAS ALL THIS FALLING AND 2017-03-13 13:47:17.141 CATCHING. 2017-03-13 13:47:17.142 AFTERWARDS, PEOPLE SAID TO ME NO 2017-03-13 13:47:21.141 ONE WAS DISABLED IN THE FILM. 2017-03-13 13:47:24.191 WHEN PEOPLE SEE YOUR CHAIR, THEY 2017-03-13 13:47:25.203 SEE YOUR CHAIR. 2017-03-13 13:47:25.203 THEY SEE ME WALK WITH A CANE, 2017-03-13 13:47:31.31 AND WHEN I DON'T USE IT, THEY 2017-03-13 13:47:32.304 SAY YOU MUST BE FEELING BETTER P 2017-03-13 13:47:33.341 OR I SAY BETTER FROM WHAT? 2017-03-13 13:47:34.351 IT IS INTERESTING HOW PEOPLE 2017-03-13 13:47:37.343 DON'T SEE US OFTEN. 2017-03-13 13:47:37.344 THEY SEE OUR APPARATUS. 2017-03-13 13:47:39.34 JUDY: IT IS VISIBILITY AT THE 2017-03-13 13:47:43.347 SAME TIME. 2017-03-13 13:47:43.347 JOHN: YOU ROLL OUT ON STAGE AND 2017-03-13 13:47:46.34 DO HIP-HOP AND THEY SEE THE 2017-03-13 13:47:48.345 CHAIR. 2017-03-13 13:47:48.346 KEITH: THEY SEE THE CHAIR AND IT 2017-03-13 13:47:51.343 IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE 2017-03-13 13:47:53.343 DONE A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER 2017-03-13 13:47:53.344 AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE A 2017-03-13 13:48:02.401 VISIBLE DISABILITY, IT IS REALLY 2017-03-13 13:48:02.402 HARD. 2017-03-13 13:48:02.403 I USE A WHEELCHAIR AND WHEN I 2017-03-13 13:48:08.448 LEAVE THE WHEELCHAIR, THE 2017-03-13 13:48:09.445 VISIBILITY IS VERY MUCH VISIBLE. 2017-03-13 13:48:10.444 THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IN TERMS 2017-03-13 13:48:11.438 OF THE ART AND GETTING BEYOND 2017-03-13 13:48:16.468 PEOPLE'S PRESUMPTIONS OR 2017-03-13 13:48:16.469 PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT MOTIVATES 2017-03-13 13:48:20.508 THE ARTIST, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE 2017-03-13 13:48:26.509 -- DISABILITY HAS A VERY 2017-03-13 13:48:27.513 NEGATIVE CONNOTATION TO IT. 2017-03-13 13:48:27.514 ANYTHING WE DO IS A MIRACLE IN 2017-03-13 13:48:32.516 HALLELUJAH JESUS, KEITH GOT THAT 2017-03-13 13:48:36.514 MICROPHONE. 2017-03-13 13:48:36.515 ALL MY GOD, YOU GO TO THE 2017-03-13 13:48:37.518 BATHROOM? 2017-03-13 13:48:37.519 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 13:48:39.553 KEITH: EVEN THIS WILL BE, FOR 2017-03-13 13:48:44.652 THOSE WHO ARE AWARE, IT WILL BE 2017-03-13 13:48:48.672 SEEN AS A SUPERHUMAN FEAT TO 2017-03-13 13:48:53.704 WANT TO NORMALIZE THEMSELVES, 2017-03-13 13:48:57.765 WHICH IRONICALLY, WE ARE JUST ON 2017-03-13 13:48:59.76 THE SPECTRUM OF HUMANITY VERSUS 2017-03-13 13:48:59.761 BEING A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP. 2017-03-13 13:49:00.764 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET 2017-03-13 13:49:05.763 BEYOND THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE 2017-03-13 13:49:05.763 AWARE PEOPLE WILL NOT MEET YOU 2017-03-13 13:49:13.805 WHERE YOU ARE. 2017-03-13 13:49:13.806 YOU HAVE TO MEET THEM WHERE THEY 2017-03-13 13:49:15.802 ARE. 2017-03-13 13:49:15.803 IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH 2017-03-13 13:49:15.804 YOUR ART, IT GETS BEYOND, YOU 2017-03-13 13:49:19.804 CAN MAKE BEATS WITH YOUR FEET, 2017-03-13 13:49:22.804 TOO, THAT IS HOT. 2017-03-13 13:49:24.846 THAT IS DOPE. 2017-03-13 13:49:24.847 I WANT YOU TO DO ONE FOR ME. 2017-03-13 13:49:24.848 BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO 2017-03-13 13:49:31.918 GET BEYOND THE PERCEPTION. 2017-03-13 13:49:31.919 AS AN ARTIST WHO DOES HIP-HOP OR 2017-03-13 13:49:33.942 DANCE OR WHATEVER AND I ROLL OUT 2017-03-13 13:49:35.946 , MY MELODY DOES NOT GO AWAY IF 2017-03-13 13:49:38.972 I LEAVE THE WHEELCHAIR. 2017-03-13 13:49:38.973 THE REALITY OF ME HAVING 2017-03-13 13:49:42.97 CEREBRAL PALSY, YOU ARE BLACK, 2017-03-13 13:49:46.971 YOU'RE IN THE WHEELCHAIR, YOU 2017-03-13 13:49:46.971 HAVE A DISABILITY, WHAT DEAL WAS 2017-03-13 13:49:50.976 YOU DOING AND WHEN DID YOU GET 2017-03-13 13:49:50.976 SHOT? 2017-03-13 13:49:50.977 VERSUS, OH MY GOODNESS, THAT IS 2017-03-13 13:49:58.012 AND AFTER A FACT OF BIRTH AND 2017-03-13 13:49:59.055 YOU ARE A HUMAN WHO HAS THIS 2017-03-13 13:49:59.056 TALENT THAT WE CAN ALL 52. 2017-03-13 13:50:04.106 THAT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF 2017-03-13 13:50:04.107 PARADIGM AND TO USE THE ART TO 2017-03-13 13:50:07.143 ADDRESS YOUR BIASES, TO ALERT 2017-03-13 13:50:12.151 YOU TO YOUR BIASES, AND TO GET 2017-03-13 13:50:15.149 YOU OVER YOUR BIASES. 2017-03-13 13:50:15.15 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:50:17.191 JUDY: I AM TO PLAY DEVIL'S 2017-03-13 13:50:21.192 ADVOCATE. 2017-03-13 13:50:21.193 CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE THING? 2017-03-13 13:50:23.194 THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS WHEN I 2017-03-13 13:50:29.191 DO PUBLICITY, I ALWAYS INSIST 2017-03-13 13:50:36.26 THERE IS ONE DISABLED PERSON AND 2017-03-13 13:50:36.261 ONE NOT. 2017-03-13 13:50:36.262 BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE BY NOT 2017-03-13 13:50:41.236 CALLING IT OUT, OR BRINGING IT 2017-03-13 13:50:44.221 TO SOME KIND OF ATTENTION, IT 2017-03-13 13:50:45.259 DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE SAME 2017-03-13 13:50:45.26 THING, THE FIRST THING, WE ARE A 2017-03-13 13:50:48.229 CONTEMPORARY DANCE COMPANY AND 2017-03-13 13:50:51.264 WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT, BUT WE 2017-03-13 13:50:54.263 ARE GOING TO MISS A LOT OF 2017-03-13 13:50:54.264 PEOPLE. 2017-03-13 13:50:54.265 SOMEBODY ROLLING DOWN A SIDEWALK 2017-03-13 13:51:00.263 IN A WHEELCHAIR WHO MIGHT 2017-03-13 13:51:00.263 -- 2017-03-13 13:51:10.312 EITHER ONE OF THEM ARE DISABLED 2017-03-13 13:51:11.313 AND THEY WILL ROLL ON BY. 2017-03-13 13:51:11.313 FOR ME, IF I SEE AN IMAGE OF A 2017-03-13 13:51:15.307 DISABLED PERSON ON THE POSTER, I 2017-03-13 13:51:18.306 WILL STOP AND LOOK AT IT. 2017-03-13 13:51:20.307 WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE, WHAT ARE 2017-03-13 13:51:23.381 THEY DOING? 2017-03-13 13:51:23.382 THAT WAS A PROBLEM WHEN WE DID A 2017-03-13 13:51:26.308 WHEELCHAIR DANCE FESTIVAL. 2017-03-13 13:51:27.304 JEREMY SENT IN EMAIL OUT TO ALL 2017-03-13 13:51:30.347 OF US SAYING WHEN WE GOING TO 2017-03-13 13:51:37.401 CALL THIS THING, AND NONE OF US 2017-03-13 13:51:37.401 COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WERE 2017-03-13 13:51:39.395 GOING TO CALL THIS THING. 2017-03-13 13:51:39.396 HE CAME UP WITH WHEELCHAIR DANCE 2017-03-13 13:51:42.4 FESTIVAL AND ONE OF THE 2017-03-13 13:51:44.443 COMPANIES FROM THE U.K. DID NOT 2017-03-13 13:51:49.443 WANT TO BE LABELED A WHEELCHAIR 2017-03-13 13:51:49.444 DANCE COMPANY. 2017-03-13 13:51:49.444 THEY DON'T HAVE IMAGES OF 2017-03-13 13:51:54.451 DISABLED PEOPLE IN A LOT OF 2017-03-13 13:51:55.461 THEIR PUBLICITY AND THEY LOST 2017-03-13 13:51:55.462 THEIR DISABLED AUDIENCE OVER THE 2017-03-13 13:51:59.461 COURSE OF THEIR 25 YEARS. 2017-03-13 13:51:59.462 THEY HAVE LOST A LOT OF THE 2017-03-13 13:52:02.521 DISABLED AUDIENCE. 2017-03-13 13:52:02.521 I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO MAKE IT 2017-03-13 13:52:06.52 IN SOME WAYS OBVIOUS SO THAT 2017-03-13 13:52:09.559 PEOPLE LIKE ME ARE GOING TO SEE 2017-03-13 13:52:10.556 IT AND GO, WOW, I COULD SEE THAT 2017-03-13 13:52:12.603 OR THAT COULD BE ME. 2017-03-13 13:52:14.608 YO-EL: IF WE ARE REALLY GOING TO 2017-03-13 13:52:20.702 EMBRACE INCLUSION, TO BE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 13:52:20.703 SHOW THAT IS KEY AND 2017-03-13 13:52:23.695 INSTRUMENTAL. 2017-03-13 13:52:23.696 WHAT I ENJOY ABOUT AXIS AND 2017-03-13 13:52:29.832 VIEWING THEIR WORK IS I SEE A 2017-03-13 13:52:32.693 DISABLED PARTICIPANT -- 2017-03-13 13:52:34.726 JUDY: I WANT TO SEE IT. 2017-03-13 13:52:38.727 I LOVE THE WAY WHEELCHAIRS MOVE. 2017-03-13 13:52:38.728 YO-EL: THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 2017-03-13 13:52:42.771 THOSE WHO ARE DISABLED AND NOT, 2017-03-13 13:52:44.809 AND HOW DO THEY BECOME PARTNERS? 2017-03-13 13:52:44.81 I THINK INCLUSION IS REALLY 2017-03-13 13:52:46.853 ABOUT ALL OF THIS BEING 2017-03-13 13:52:49.854 PARTNERS. 2017-03-13 13:52:49.855 THE WORST THAT WE ARE DOING AND 2017-03-13 13:52:58.85 ADVOCATING FOR IS HOW COULD THIS 2017-03-13 13:52:59.855 BE INCLUSIVE FOR ALL AND HOW DO 2017-03-13 13:53:02.943 WE SHOW THAT VISUALLY? 2017-03-13 13:53:02.944 JUDY: I HAVE AN INTERESTING 2017-03-13 13:53:06.947 STORY AND THAT I WILL SHUT IT -- 2017-03-13 13:53:08.959 SHUT UP. 2017-03-13 13:53:08.959 IN ONE OF THE DANCE PIECES, HE 2017-03-13 13:53:13.992 WAS LIFTED ONTO A COUCH AND 2017-03-13 13:53:18.018 PEOPLE LOVE THAT SHE FINALLY GOT 2017-03-13 13:53:21.02 OUT OF HER WHEELCHAIR. 2017-03-13 13:53:21.021 I WILL NOT DROP THE F FORD, -- F 2017-03-13 13:53:30.019 WORD, BUT I AM STUCK ON THAT 2017-03-13 13:53:34.022 COUCH AND FOR ME, THAT IS NOT 2017-03-13 13:53:35.02 INTERESTING. 2017-03-13 13:53:35.021 IT WAS AN INTERESTING CHOICE AND 2017-03-13 13:53:39.067 THE PIECES BEAUTIFUL BUT FOR 2017-03-13 13:53:41.162 PEOPLE ALL THE SUDDEN, THEY ARE 2017-03-13 13:53:43.108 JUST SO EXCITED THAT THIS IS 2017-03-13 13:53:47.103 WHAT GIVES US OUR FREEDOM AND 2017-03-13 13:53:50.117 ALLOWS US TO MOVE THE WAY WE 2017-03-13 13:53:51.104 MOVE. 2017-03-13 13:53:51.105 I FRANKLY DON'T LIKE DANCING ON 2017-03-13 13:53:57.111 THE FLOOR. 2017-03-13 13:53:57.112 I FIND IT FRUSTRATING. 2017-03-13 13:53:57.113 I LIKE TO GO FAST. 2017-03-13 13:54:03.112 I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CRAWL 2017-03-13 13:54:04.105 ACROSS THE FLOOR. 2017-03-13 13:54:04.106 CHARLES: THANK YOU FOR A VERY 2017-03-13 13:54:09.155 STIMULATING QUESTION. 2017-03-13 13:54:09.155 >> I HATE TO GO IN ANOTHER 2017-03-13 13:54:12.149 DIRECTION BUT I WILL. 2017-03-13 13:54:12.15 I AM HERE FROM BOSTON 2017-03-13 13:54:16.146 CONSERVATORY OF BROOKLYN WHERE I 2017-03-13 13:54:17.158 RUN A BUNCH OF PROGRAMS FOR 2017-03-13 13:54:18.149 PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND STARTING 2017-03-13 13:54:21.232 THIS FALL I WILL BE FOUNDING A 2017-03-13 13:54:23.199 NEW INSTITUTE FOR ARTS EDUCATION 2017-03-13 13:54:23.2 AND SPECIAL NEEDS AT BERKELEY. 2017-03-13 13:54:23.201 I AM COMING AT IT FROM A BIG 2017-03-13 13:54:28.146 PART OF OUR WORK IS TRAINING 2017-03-13 13:54:29.199 TEACHERS. 2017-03-13 13:54:29.2 CHARLIE ASKED YOU ABOUT YOUR 2017-03-13 13:54:31.207 TRAINING. 2017-03-13 13:54:31.208 I WORKED ALL THE TIME WITH 2017-03-13 13:54:35.195 PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOL 2017-03-13 13:54:36.195 TEACHERS WHO ARE TRYING SO HARD 2017-03-13 13:54:38.23 AND DESPERATELY TO MAKE 2017-03-13 13:54:42.245 CONNECTIONS AND TO INCLUDE 2017-03-13 13:54:42.245 EVERYONE IN ARTISTIC EDUCATION 2017-03-13 13:54:45.275 AND ARTISTIC OPPORTUNITIES AND 2017-03-13 13:54:48.357 THEY ARE STRUGGLING. 2017-03-13 13:54:48.358 I WANT TO KNOW YOUR ADVICE FOR 2017-03-13 13:54:53.408 THEM, WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW, 2017-03-13 13:54:53.409 WHAT YOU WISH YOUR TEACHERS HAD 2017-03-13 13:54:56.402 KNOWN WAY BACK WHEN. 2017-03-13 13:54:56.403 KEITH: I HAVE TO JUMP IN BECAUSE 2017-03-13 13:55:02.399 I'M A CHILD OF TEACHERS AND 2017-03-13 13:55:06.447 BEING THE FIRST BLACK CHILD AND 2017-03-13 13:55:09.456 THE ONLY ONE WITH A DISABILITY, 2017-03-13 13:55:14.522 IN 1966, WHEN I WISH TEACHERS 2017-03-13 13:55:17.564 WOULD UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU ARE 2017-03-13 13:55:19.563 TEACHING A STUDENT, NOT THE 2017-03-13 13:55:22.576 DIAGNOSIS. 2017-03-13 13:55:22.577 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:55:24.603 KEITH: THAT IS THE CRUX OF IT. 2017-03-13 13:55:29.619 PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT AUTISM 2017-03-13 13:55:31.611 AND THEY START THINKING ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:55:31.611 THE LITTLE BLUE PUZZLE PIECE. 2017-03-13 13:55:31.612 THEN, RIGHT NOW, AUTISM IS THE 2017-03-13 13:55:38.707 SEXY DISABILITY TO HAVE NO ONE 2017-03-13 13:55:40.758 WANTS TO BE CEREBRAL PALSY P OR 2017-03-13 13:55:41.746 THAT AIN'T SEXY NO MORE. 2017-03-13 13:55:41.747 -- PALSY. 2017-03-13 13:55:44.747 THAT AIN'T SEXY NO MORE. 2017-03-13 13:55:47.757 >> THAT'S NOT TRUE. 2017-03-13 13:55:51.84 KEITH: BUT THE REALITY IS THAT 2017-03-13 13:55:57.793 TEACHERS, THIS IS A STRUGGLE 2017-03-13 13:55:57.794 BEYOND ART. 2017-03-13 13:55:58.774 EDUCATORS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN 2017-03-13 13:56:03.941 TAUGHT STUDENTS WITH 2017-03-13 13:56:03.942 DISABILITIES ARE NOT STUDENTS. 2017-03-13 13:56:05.862 THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO 2017-03-13 13:56:12.901 LEARN AS OUR OTHER STUDENTS. 2017-03-13 13:56:12.902 IF YOU PULL -- CALL BACK YOUR 2017-03-13 13:56:18.95 TEACHERS AND SAY, WHAT BAGGAGE 2017-03-13 13:56:18.951 ARE YOU BRINGING, BECAUSE THE 2017-03-13 13:56:22.959 TRAINING I DO AROUND THE COUNTRY 2017-03-13 13:56:23.998 OR WHATEVER IS YOU DON'T LEAVE 2017-03-13 13:56:26.026 YOUR CELL PHONE ON THE OTHER 2017-03-13 13:56:27.025 SIDE OF THE DOOR. 2017-03-13 13:56:27.026 IF YOU ARE SEXES AND YOU WALK 2017-03-13 13:56:28.065 INTO A ROOM WITH WOMEN, -- IF 2017-03-13 13:56:33.151 YOU ARE RACIST OR HOMOPHOBIC OR 2017-03-13 13:56:35.151 ABLEST, THAT COMES WITH YOU. 2017-03-13 13:56:35.152 HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR BIASES? 2017-03-13 13:56:38.16 HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR 2017-03-13 13:56:42.151 PRESIDENTS -- PRESENT -- 2017-03-13 13:56:45.155 PREJUDICES? 2017-03-13 13:56:45.155 YOU'VE NEVER ENCOUNTERED THAT 2017-03-13 13:56:50.15 UNTIL YOU DECIDED TO BE A CHEAP 2017-03-13 13:56:52.151 -- A TEACHER. 2017-03-13 13:56:52.152 ALL THAT BAGGAGE, YOU HAVE TO BE 2017-03-13 13:56:56.199 DEPROGRAMMED AS WELL. 2017-03-13 13:56:56.2 WE COME WITH OUR OWN BIASES. 2017-03-13 13:56:58.256 WE COME INTO THE CLASSROOM, THIS 2017-03-13 13:57:02.275 PERSON DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT 2017-03-13 13:57:04.276 DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 13:57:04.277 WHAT TEACHERS CAN DO, IS THAT IT 2017-03-13 13:57:13.322 IS NOT ABOUT, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT 2017-03-13 13:57:14.319 NOR THE DIAGNOSIS, BUT 2017-03-13 13:57:14.319 UNDERSTAND YOU ARE TALKING TO A 2017-03-13 13:57:16.319 HUMAN THAT HAS SENSIBILITIES, 2017-03-13 13:57:22.413 EMOTIONS, AND IT DOES NOT 2017-03-13 13:57:23.454 NECESSARILY EXPRESS IT THE WAY 2017-03-13 13:57:23.455 YOU DO, BUT IF YOU CAN'T GET 2017-03-13 13:57:25.449 BEYOND THAT, HOW CAN YOUR 2017-03-13 13:57:28.452 INFORMATION GET PERMEATED TO THE 2017-03-13 13:57:30.45 STUDENT TO MEET THE STUDENT 2017-03-13 13:57:32.449 WHERE THEY ARE, UNDERSTAND WHAT 2017-03-13 13:57:34.456 YOU'RE BAGGAGE IS, AND TRY TO 2017-03-13 13:57:34.457 FIND COMMON GROUND FOR IT TO 2017-03-13 13:57:36.5 HAPPEN. 2017-03-13 13:57:36.501 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 13:57:37.502 YO-EL: WONDERFULLY PUT. 2017-03-13 13:57:42.498 I'VE -- I LOVE THIS QUESTION. 2017-03-13 13:57:45.564 YES. 2017-03-13 13:57:47.529 IT IS BASED ON THE C WORDS. 2017-03-13 13:57:54.527 CURRICULUM, CONTENT, 2017-03-13 13:57:57.528 COMMUNICATION, CREATIVITY, 2017-03-13 13:57:57.529 COLLABORATION, AND TEACHING, HOW 2017-03-13 13:58:00.532 DO YOU ALLOW THE TEACHER TO 2017-03-13 13:58:01.535 BECOME RELATABLE WITH THE 2017-03-13 13:58:01.536 STUDENT? 2017-03-13 13:58:01.537 WHAT IS THE RELATE ABILITY 2017-03-13 13:58:04.572 FACTOR, TO ALLOW THEM TO FIND 2017-03-13 13:58:08.568 THEM FIRST, IT IS ABOUT, WHO ARE 2017-03-13 13:58:10.569 YOU AS A PERSON, NOT TEACHING 2017-03-13 13:58:10.57 ANYTHING YET, AND THEN ONCE THEY 2017-03-13 13:58:13.577 BUILD CONFIDENCE, HOW DO YOU 2017-03-13 13:58:16.571 TAKE THAT TO ALLOW THEM TO 2017-03-13 13:58:22.57 EXPLORE THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH 2017-03-13 13:58:25.622 THE FORM SO THE FORM IS REALLY 2017-03-13 13:58:27.634 WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE 2017-03-13 13:58:27.635 FUNCTION? 2017-03-13 13:58:27.636 FROM THERE, HOW DO YOU PROVIDE 2017-03-13 13:58:32.701 EXPERIENCES, HOW DOES THAT 2017-03-13 13:58:39.701 HAPPEN FOR COLLABORATION AMONGST 2017-03-13 13:58:39.701 THE STAFF, THE INTERPRETER 2017-03-13 13:58:44.748 THERE, IS THERE ATA THERE, IS 2017-03-13 13:58:45.749 EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE IN 2017-03-13 13:58:46.756 TERMS OF HOW THIS MATERIAL WILL 2017-03-13 13:58:46.757 BE PROCESSED AND HOW THIS 2017-03-13 13:58:49.751 MATERIAL WILL BE COMMUNICATED, 2017-03-13 13:58:52.751 AND REALLY LETTING THE STUDENTS 2017-03-13 13:58:52.752 TEACH YOU, LISTENING TO THEIR 2017-03-13 13:58:55.758 RESPONSES AND LISTENING TO THEIR 2017-03-13 13:59:01.784 HEARTBEAT, SO TO SPEAK, AND THEN 2017-03-13 13:59:05.825 MODULATING YOUR CURRICULUM, 2017-03-13 13:59:05.825 HAVING A PLAN, A BACKUP, BUT 2017-03-13 13:59:09.819 REALLY MODULATING THE APPROACH 2017-03-13 13:59:13.822 AND TAKING THE JOURNEY BASED ON 2017-03-13 13:59:14.823 THE FEEDBACK AND THE ENERGY AND 2017-03-13 13:59:14.823 THE TEMPERATURE YOU ARE 2017-03-13 13:59:17.827 RECEIVING FROM THE STUDENTS. 2017-03-13 13:59:19.821 JOHN: WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT 2017-03-13 13:59:25.822 OF WORK AROUND STRIVING TO BE 2017-03-13 13:59:27.822 MORE INCLUSIVE. 2017-03-13 13:59:30.87 ONE OF THE BIG INITIATIVES WE 2017-03-13 13:59:30.871 UNDERTOOK IS TO TRY TO 2017-03-13 13:59:35.883 UNDERSTAND HOW WE COULD BE MORE 2017-03-13 13:59:36.874 WELCOMING TO AUDIENCES ON THE 2017-03-13 13:59:36.874 AUTISM SPECTRUM. 2017-03-13 13:59:36.875 WE WORKED WITH THE CHICAGO 2017-03-13 13:59:39.907 CHILDREN'S THEATER AND THEY DID 2017-03-13 13:59:43.958 WORK SPECIFICALLY, A SMALL-SCALE 2017-03-13 13:59:43.959 WORK FOR YOUNG CHILDREN ON THE 2017-03-13 13:59:47.088 SPECTRUM, BUT WE WERE HEARING 2017-03-13 13:59:50.081 FROM THE PARENTS THAT THEY 2017-03-13 13:59:52.076 REALLY APPRECIATED THERE WERE 2017-03-13 13:59:57.126 SEPARATE EXPERIENCES BUT WHAT 2017-03-13 13:59:57.127 THEY HAD HOPED FOR IS THAT FLYNN 2017-03-13 13:59:58.132 COULD FIND WAYS TO HAVE THEIR 2017-03-13 14:00:01.156 FAMILIES PARTICIPATE IN FULLER 2017-03-13 14:00:03.159 EXPERIENCES. 2017-03-13 14:00:05.162 MANY PARENTS SAID IT IS SO 2017-03-13 14:00:08.16 STRESSFUL FOR THEM TO COME THAT 2017-03-13 14:00:09.159 THEY START FIGHTING WITH 2017-03-13 14:00:11.202 CHILDRENBy the time everyone is there, 2017-03-13 14:00:13.493 it is hysterical and being told 2017-03-13 14:00:16.495 to be quiet. 2017-03-13 14:00:16.496 We work with the theater 2017-03-13 14:00:18.5 development fund. 2017-03-13 14:00:18.642 They took this on as pro bono. 2017-03-13 14:00:21.503 We had to really face our own 2017-03-13 14:00:24.537 prejudices and our own ignorance 2017-03-13 14:00:27.535 and our own fears about this 2017-03-13 14:00:31.534 unknown reality for many of us. 2017-03-13 14:00:32.537 We had a parent advisor group 2017-03-13 14:00:36.547 working with us. 2017-03-13 14:00:36.548 We worked with a theater company 2017-03-13 14:00:40.537 for the long haul. 2017-03-13 14:00:42.537 We kept the lights up a little 2017-03-13 14:00:46.537 bit, lower the sound levels, did 2017-03-13 14:00:48.58 not change any content. 2017-03-13 14:00:48.581 Walking down the aisles with a 2017-03-13 14:01:00.582 parent or recipient that they 2017-03-13 14:01:00.583 wanted to. 2017-03-13 14:01:00.584 The artists says you will hear 2017-03-13 14:01:07.58 sounds that may not seem 2017-03-13 14:01:08.582 appropriate sounds to you. 2017-03-13 14:01:08.583 They were totally fine with it. 2017-03-13 14:01:11.631 We had a quiet room, we had 2017-03-13 14:01:17.631 special stories online. 2017-03-13 14:01:18.649 And what we found is that 2017-03-13 14:01:23.682 everyone had so much fun. 2017-03-13 14:01:24.681 It is no longer for specialized 2017-03-13 14:01:28.68 audiences. 2017-03-13 14:01:29.679 Parents say, we can bring our 2017-03-13 14:01:32.707 toddlers. 2017-03-13 14:01:33.711 The ushers had to be educated to 2017-03-13 14:01:38.748 sit down. 2017-03-13 14:01:38.749 Don't talk. 2017-03-13 14:01:40.748 That is what we teach people to 2017-03-13 14:01:44.749 do in these darkened spaces and 2017-03-13 14:01:47.749 theaters. 2017-03-13 14:01:47.75 To be quiet and pay attention. 2017-03-13 14:01:50.751 To what? 2017-03-13 14:01:50.752 Our box office staff, everyone 2017-03-13 14:01:56.749 had to change. 2017-03-13 14:01:57.795 It was transformative. 2017-03-13 14:02:00.84 And it was just how to be 2017-03-13 14:02:02.79 welcoming. 2017-03-13 14:02:02.791 >> We have this a lot. 2017-03-13 14:02:06.795 They really don't know how to do 2017-03-13 14:02:13.791 it. 2017-03-13 14:02:14.832 We have started doing a lot of 2017-03-13 14:02:17.834 teacher training. 2017-03-13 14:02:19.834 We just did a teacher training 2017-03-13 14:02:24.884 in New York. 2017-03-13 14:02:25.879 This is something that we are 2017-03-13 14:02:28.883 taking on because you can't just 2017-03-13 14:02:32.93 start from zero. 2017-03-13 14:02:33.928 And there are people from whom 2017-03-13 14:02:37.931 you can go learn. 2017-03-13 14:02:39.931 And one of the things that I did 2017-03-13 14:02:43.931 was to set up master classes 2017-03-13 14:02:47.93 where we would bring at bay area 2017-03-13 14:02:48.934 dance teachers to us. 2017-03-13 14:02:49.957 And we would have some of our 2017-03-13 14:02:53.988 community and company. 2017-03-13 14:02:53.989 They have a safe container with 2017-03-13 14:02:59.957 which to try out all of their 2017-03-13 14:03:00.96 teaching methods and make 2017-03-13 14:03:01.957 adjustments. 2017-03-13 14:03:02.959 I do think that, especially with 2017-03-13 14:03:09.001 dance, that there needs to be 2017-03-13 14:03:11.999 some kind of training. 2017-03-13 14:03:12 People need some groundwork to 2017-03-13 14:03:16.009 start with it. 2017-03-13 14:03:17.001 We started from scratch and we 2017-03-13 14:03:20.008 made it all up but it took us a 2017-03-13 14:03:22.041 long time. 2017-03-13 14:03:22.042 Now if we are asking people to 2017-03-13 14:03:27.043 make their dance classes 2017-03-13 14:03:27.044 inclusivity, they need to have 2017-03-13 14:03:31.084 the ability to develop the skill 2017-03-13 14:03:31.085 to do that. 2017-03-13 14:03:31.086 And what most of them found is 2017-03-13 14:03:36.087 they didn't do things that 2017-03-13 14:03:36.087 differently. 2017-03-13 14:03:37.084 They had to just open the Box a 2017-03-13 14:03:41.097 little bit. 2017-03-13 14:03:42.087 >> And how do you do that? 2017-03-13 14:03:46.085 That is the key. 2017-03-13 14:03:48.085 To think outside the Box? 2017-03-13 14:03:50.086 To teach step or rely on other 2017-03-13 14:03:53.132 senses and visual art? 2017-03-13 14:03:55.132 I know with the work that we 2017-03-13 14:03:59.192 used to do with the education 2017-03-13 14:04:02.182 community, we had autism class 2017-03-13 14:04:08.182 early would have them start in 2017-03-13 14:04:08.183 shares, something they felt 2017-03-13 14:04:11.183 comfortable with. 2017-03-13 14:04:12.181 Just feel it and translate that 2017-03-13 14:04:18.252 feeling to a part of your body. 2017-03-13 14:04:18.253 It's about how you approach it 2017-03-13 14:04:22.254 and what is the entry point. 2017-03-13 14:04:23.255 There are amazing teachers out 2017-03-13 14:04:27.254 there and quite a challenge of 2017-03-13 14:04:31.254 the particular group that allows 2017-03-13 14:04:32.281 them to be translatable to all 2017-03-13 14:04:32.282 the groups. 2017-03-13 14:04:33.312 That is the key having that 2017-03-13 14:04:38.335 training. 2017-03-13 14:04:39.337 How do we go about that? 2017-03-13 14:04:41.347 That is the question. 2017-03-13 14:04:44.336 >> It is not easy and it is hard 2017-03-13 14:04:49.337 to be everything to everybody. 2017-03-13 14:04:49.338 >> I know Ruth has a question 2017-03-13 14:04:57.354 and Chris has a question. 2017-03-13 14:04:57.355 I want to just ignore it that 2017-03-13 14:05:00.339 some of us in the room went to 2017-03-13 14:05:03.337 dance training for teachers on 2017-03-13 14:05:04.336 Friday night. 2017-03-13 14:05:06.335 I know there's at least one. 2017-03-13 14:05:10.434 Thank you for that. 2017-03-13 14:05:12.469 I know Chris has a question as 2017-03-13 14:05:18.463 well. 2017-03-13 14:05:18.464 Anyone else with a burning 2017-03-13 14:05:22.543 question so I get a sense? 2017-03-13 14:05:22.544 >> You are just validating 2017-03-13 14:05:31.545 everything that we talked about 2017-03-13 14:05:31.546 20 years ago during the 2017-03-13 14:05:35.544 international wheelchair dance 2017-03-13 14:05:35.545 Festival. 2017-03-13 14:05:35.546 A continuation of the same 2017-03-13 14:05:38.547 conversation. 2017-03-13 14:05:38.547 The most profound thing I 2017-03-13 14:05:42.546 learned at the international 2017-03-13 14:05:42.547 wheelchair dance Festival was 2017-03-13 14:05:43.551 that dancers conceptions of 2017-03-13 14:05:46.588 their own bodies of beauty and 2017-03-13 14:05:49.586 of dance change when you see 2017-03-13 14:05:55.606 people with all different kinds 2017-03-13 14:05:55.606 of abilities dancing and using 2017-03-13 14:05:58.588 wheelchairs as props. 2017-03-13 14:05:59.586 >> They are an extension of our 2017-03-13 14:06:07.648 body, they are not a prop. 2017-03-13 14:06:08.633 >> Excuse me. 2017-03-13 14:06:11.635 I am still learning. 2017-03-13 14:06:11.636 My husband, as you know, had a 2017-03-13 14:06:16.637 physical disability and used a 2017-03-13 14:06:19.685 wheelchair and a ventilator for 2017-03-13 14:06:19.685 the last 22 years of his life. 2017-03-13 14:06:20.713 We were watching TV one night, a 2017-03-13 14:06:26.716 dance performance. 2017-03-13 14:06:26.716 He felt depressed because he 2017-03-13 14:06:29.715 couldn't dance. 2017-03-13 14:06:29.716 So the wheelchair dance Festival 2017-03-13 14:06:33.798 changed our lives in terms of 2017-03-13 14:06:33.799 using contact improv. 2017-03-13 14:06:36.805 Just thank you. 2017-03-13 14:06:38.799 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 14:06:46.802 >> My question is about 2017-03-13 14:06:52.841 authenticity and casting. 2017-03-13 14:06:52.842 What are your responses to 2017-03-13 14:06:56.881 educating populations of varying 2017-03-13 14:07:02.885 disabilities, educators being 2017-03-13 14:07:04.886 persons without disabilities. 2017-03-13 14:07:05.885 These little pop-up workshops 2017-03-13 14:07:09.885 that may go to the Perkins 2017-03-13 14:07:10.887 school for the blind or the 2017-03-13 14:07:11.935 school for the death -- deaf? 2017-03-13 14:07:14.933 What is your response to that? 2017-03-13 14:07:17.964 What is your response to casting 2017-03-13 14:07:22.964 in film, theater, stage. 2017-03-13 14:07:25.965 Individuals without disabilities 2017-03-13 14:07:29.964 representing disability. 2017-03-13 14:07:30.98 You get the idea. 2017-03-13 14:07:34.98 What are your responses and 2017-03-13 14:07:34.981 reactions to that? 2017-03-13 14:07:35.964 >> It's very interesting. 2017-03-13 14:07:40.007 In terms of teaching as an 2017-03-13 14:07:44.006 educator going into a classroom, 2017-03-13 14:07:46.057 I have the advantage of shock 2017-03-13 14:07:47.058 and allwe. 2017-03-13 14:07:51.048 A teacher teaching hip-hop and 2017-03-13 14:07:55.048 then I role in. 2017-03-13 14:07:56.051 -- roll in. 2017-03-13 14:07:59.049 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 14:07:59.049 It sets up the dynamic because 2017-03-13 14:08:03.135 it instantly changes the 2017-03-13 14:08:03.136 conversation about what shocked 2017-03-13 14:08:06.228 you about me rolling into this 2017-03-13 14:08:07.186 classroom? 2017-03-13 14:08:09.191 As much as we are talking about 2017-03-13 14:08:14.195 coming to dance or performance, 2017-03-13 14:08:17.218 people come with a history 2017-03-13 14:08:17.219 already. 2017-03-13 14:08:17.219 If there is an educator that has 2017-03-13 14:08:24.259 chosen to do this, would you 2017-03-13 14:08:32.299 volunteer kids with 2017-03-13 14:08:34.302 disabilities? 2017-03-13 14:08:34.302 Sure. 2017-03-13 14:08:36.342 Why is he running that way? 2017-03-13 14:08:38.342 Why is he beating them with a 2017-03-13 14:08:41.344 crutch? 2017-03-13 14:08:41.345 They are all pointing at me. 2017-03-13 14:08:44.342 Because they don't understand 2017-03-13 14:08:48.389 that we have our own culture. 2017-03-13 14:08:51.389 Our own baggage that we come 2017-03-13 14:08:54.397 with and we expect you to treat 2017-03-13 14:08:57.436 us in a certain kind of way. 2017-03-13 14:08:57.437 Typically, it is that sticky 2017-03-13 14:09:03.512 sweet talking. 2017-03-13 14:09:03.513 Hello, everyone. 2017-03-13 14:09:06.512 You are so talented. 2017-03-13 14:09:09.51 It goes straight to what we've 2017-03-13 14:09:13.598 heard all our lives. 2017-03-13 14:09:13.598 Anything we've done is this 2017-03-13 14:09:16.594 miraculous event versus just an 2017-03-13 14:09:19.592 extraordinary life. 2017-03-13 14:09:20.595 In terms of casting, what is the 2017-03-13 14:09:26.598 movie that just came out. 2017-03-13 14:09:27.592 The guy that was so traumatized 2017-03-13 14:09:34.595 that he wanted to kill himself. 2017-03-13 14:09:34.596 It is not our life. 2017-03-13 14:09:38.637 The casting issue is analogous 2017-03-13 14:09:50.695 to having a white man plan 2017-03-13 14:09:50.696 Asian. 2017-03-13 14:09:50.696 If you saw Doctor Strange, the 2017-03-13 14:09:54.688 white woman played the Asian 2017-03-13 14:09:56.689 man. 2017-03-13 14:09:56.69 Go back to the year of living 2017-03-13 14:10:00.689 dangerously. 2017-03-13 14:10:00.69 Go back to Hannibal. 2017-03-13 14:10:03.689 It been her. 2017-03-13 14:10:04.688 -- Ben_-Hur. 2017-03-13 14:10:08.721 Casting the other of someone we 2017-03-13 14:10:13.72 are comfortable with. 2017-03-13 14:10:14.723 That is the crux of getting past 2017-03-13 14:10:14.724 casting. 2017-03-13 14:10:14.725 And that they have the courage 2017-03-13 14:10:21.721 to cast someone with a 2017-03-13 14:10:21.722 disability. 2017-03-13 14:10:21.722 I don't look like a typical 2017-03-13 14:10:25.727 romantic lead but I can play the 2017-03-13 14:10:26.72 romantic lead. 2017-03-13 14:10:26.721 I don't look like a typical 2017-03-13 14:10:30.737 villain because if you look at 2017-03-13 14:10:30.738 any television show anyone you 2017-03-13 14:10:36.72 know with a disability is going 2017-03-13 14:10:36.721 to be like this. 2017-03-13 14:10:37.728 They will call it out because 2017-03-13 14:10:40.762 it's fake. 2017-03-13 14:10:40.763 The way that we can address it 2017-03-13 14:10:44.804 is we start our own testing 2017-03-13 14:10:44.805 companies. 2017-03-13 14:10:44.806 And you can put it out there. 2017-03-13 14:10:48.804 But we cannot be blind to the 2017-03-13 14:10:51.805 fact that disability in this 2017-03-13 14:10:54.803 culture has a very specific 2017-03-13 14:11:00.802 context and connotation. 2017-03-13 14:11:00.803 And until we can do with the 2017-03-13 14:11:04.816 fact that people don't want to 2017-03-13 14:11:04.817 see us -- if you get married, 2017-03-13 14:11:08.803 people are amazed. 2017-03-13 14:11:08.804 If you eat at a restaurant, 2017-03-13 14:11:13.804 people are amazed. 2017-03-13 14:11:13.849 Before you even get to the 2017-03-13 14:11:17.803 casting, had you deal with the 2017-03-13 14:11:20.806 sociological impact of what 2017-03-13 14:11:22.811 people see in the media? 2017-03-13 14:11:23.804 >> It is interesting, Sam just 2017-03-13 14:11:27.805 opened on Broadway -- 2017-03-13 14:11:32.803 traditionally, the young woman 2017-03-13 14:11:32.804 in that is someone who seems 2017-03-13 14:11:35.804 very fragile. 2017-03-13 14:11:38.809 Often young actresses decide 2017-03-13 14:11:43.808 they should walk with a limp or 2017-03-13 14:11:43.809 something. 2017-03-13 14:11:43.81 Sam Kass a woman in a wheelchair 2017-03-13 14:11:50.848 for that role. 2017-03-13 14:11:50.849 She rolls into the theater and 2017-03-13 14:11:58.848 has to get out of that 2017-03-13 14:11:59.846 wheelchair and on her but go up 2017-03-13 14:12:01.966 the stairs and is helped by her 2017-03-13 14:12:01.967 mother. 2017-03-13 14:12:01.968 And it is a very interesting 2017-03-13 14:12:06.889 depiction of the fragility of 2017-03-13 14:12:08.893 that character. 2017-03-13 14:12:08.894 It is seen as revolutionary. 2017-03-13 14:12:10.889 It was never revolutionary that 2017-03-13 14:12:14.937 enable -- an able-bodied person 2017-03-13 14:12:18.938 would be limping around but that 2017-03-13 14:12:21.952 this woman in a wheelchair was 2017-03-13 14:12:21.952 actually playing this person 2017-03-13 14:12:24.942 with the disability. 2017-03-13 14:12:24.942 I don't know what that is that 2017-03-13 14:12:29.993 suddenly, it is new when it is 2017-03-13 14:12:30.988 actually real. 2017-03-13 14:12:31.989 >> I have been dealing with this 2017-03-13 14:12:37.99 for 30 years. 2017-03-13 14:12:37.991 There are not enough trained and 2017-03-13 14:12:45.018 disabled actors. 2017-03-13 14:12:45.019 This is a problem. 2017-03-13 14:12:51.026 Just because I am disabled and I 2017-03-13 14:12:55.059 go do a casting call, it doesn't 2017-03-13 14:13:00.057 mean I have the skill to do it. 2017-03-13 14:13:00.058 This is a problem that people 2017-03-13 14:13:05.101 who do want to cast disabled 2017-03-13 14:13:09.1 people are coming up against. 2017-03-13 14:13:09.101 There is not enough of us and it 2017-03-13 14:13:14.119 is because of this lack of 2017-03-13 14:13:14.12 training opportunity. 2017-03-13 14:13:16.098 John, you speak eloquently about 2017-03-13 14:13:20.098 this. 2017-03-13 14:13:20.098 It is a lack of drive to get 2017-03-13 14:13:29.145 better. 2017-03-13 14:13:29.145 That somehow, I should get cast 2017-03-13 14:13:35.143 in a disabled role. 2017-03-13 14:13:35.143 It doesn't mean that I should go 2017-03-13 14:13:39.142 to 20 acting classes a week. 2017-03-13 14:13:39.143 I know that it came up a lot. 2017-03-13 14:13:45.141 >> That conference in Los 2017-03-13 14:13:49.149 Angeles, I was really eager to 2017-03-13 14:13:50.148 find a community of. 2017-03-13 14:13:50.148 I was stunned because people 2017-03-13 14:13:57.142 were sharing work and there was 2017-03-13 14:13:57.143 a comedian who was quadriplegic. 2017-03-13 14:14:02.144 It she rolls out and she starts 2017-03-13 14:14:05.144 attacking secreted Roy, these 2017-03-13 14:14:08.143 two outrageously -- too 2017-03-13 14:14:12.143 outrageous queens with white 2017-03-13 14:14:12.144 tigers and they were just like 2017-03-13 14:14:15.148 Liberace. 2017-03-13 14:14:15.149 They were completely over the 2017-03-13 14:14:17.142 talk and -- over the top and I 2017-03-13 14:14:20.143 loved them. 2017-03-13 14:14:21.145 Even here, the queers are the 2017-03-13 14:14:25.146 ones being made fun of and it 2017-03-13 14:14:26.143 really pissed me off. 2017-03-13 14:14:28.143 She was telling her jokes and 2017-03-13 14:14:32.201 she missed her punchline. 2017-03-13 14:14:32.202 It's like, if you want to be a 2017-03-13 14:14:38.192 comedian, you've got to hit your 2017-03-13 14:14:38.193 punchlines. 2017-03-13 14:14:41.241 But no one was willing to talk 2017-03-13 14:14:43.242 to her as an artist. 2017-03-13 14:14:43.242 They just saw her as a 2017-03-13 14:14:48.274 quadriplegic. 2017-03-13 14:14:48.275 And no one wanted to say to her, 2017-03-13 14:14:51.27 look, if you want to be taken 2017-03-13 14:14:52.31 seriously, you got to work on 2017-03-13 14:14:54.31 your delivery. 2017-03-13 14:14:54.311 We talked about this a lot. 2017-03-13 14:14:57.322 There are a lot of wheelchair 2017-03-13 14:15:01.316 based companies and to my eyes, 2017-03-13 14:15:06.316 not much of the work is 2017-03-13 14:15:08.357 mediocre. 2017-03-13 14:15:08.358 These incredible different 2017-03-13 14:15:20.442 bodies and stuff. 2017-03-13 14:15:20.443 I'm glad that he wants to be 2017-03-13 14:15:27.493 seen as a painter it is 2017-03-13 14:15:35.501 interesting how we challenge 2017-03-13 14:15:36.492 ourselves and have that 2017-03-13 14:15:36.493 conversation, not even in a room 2017-03-13 14:15:41.562 like this, but in a room with 2017-03-13 14:15:41.562 disabled people, it is really a 2017-03-13 14:15:45.561 thing that we have to grab hold 2017-03-13 14:15:45.562 of each other and say we've got 2017-03-13 14:15:48.56 to do better than this. 2017-03-13 14:15:48.56 >> We have to improve the 2017-03-13 14:15:51.562 quality. 2017-03-13 14:15:51.563 >> Can I add a small piece to 2017-03-13 14:15:54.562 that? 2017-03-13 14:15:54.562 I could not agree more with 2017-03-13 14:16:02.646 everything you just said. 2017-03-13 14:16:02.647 I also think that there is a 2017-03-13 14:16:08.648 point that is not happening, 2017-03-13 14:16:11.649 letting people with disabilities 2017-03-13 14:16:11.65 know that it is possible for 2017-03-13 14:16:13.648 them to become performers. 2017-03-13 14:16:14.69 It is not something that people 2017-03-13 14:16:18.69 think about. 2017-03-13 14:16:19.692 It's not something a lot of 2017-03-13 14:16:22.69 teachers or parents or other 2017-03-13 14:16:25.693 people surrounding them are 2017-03-13 14:16:26.693 presenting to them as one of the 2017-03-13 14:16:28.693 options as they move forward in 2017-03-13 14:16:28.694 life. 2017-03-13 14:16:29.693 It all ties back in again. 2017-03-13 14:16:32.741 >> We have planned an afternoon 2017-03-13 14:16:38.742 to dig deeper into these 2017-03-13 14:16:40.741 questions. 2017-03-13 14:16:41.744 That is supposed to start at 2017-03-13 14:16:45.743 2:30 p.m. our time. 2017-03-13 14:16:45.744 930 p.m. in Tel Aviv. 2017-03-13 14:16:50.742 And so we have touched on a lot 2017-03-13 14:16:56.741 of what the last two questions 2017-03-13 14:16:58.742 were. 2017-03-13 14:16:58.742 If you would each do your 2017-03-13 14:17:03.744 summary. 2017-03-13 14:17:06.773 The distinction between advocacy 2017-03-13 14:17:15.814 and activism. 2017-03-13 14:17:15.814 If we might, what distinction, 2017-03-13 14:17:21.815 if any, do you see their? 2017-03-13 14:17:21.816 And what is your call to action? 2017-03-13 14:17:24.813 You have gone first each time. 2017-03-13 14:17:31.817 Keep up the pattern. 2017-03-13 14:17:33.813 >> Activism is the action behind 2017-03-13 14:17:40.831 advocacy. 2017-03-13 14:17:40.831 In order to advocate, you have 2017-03-13 14:17:44.817 do have action behind it. 2017-03-13 14:17:45.825 Wrapping up the discussion, it 2017-03-13 14:17:52.815 is a distinction without a 2017-03-13 14:17:52.816 difference. 2017-03-13 14:17:53.823 Everything we talked about boils 2017-03-13 14:18:00.882 down to the reality of the child 2017-03-13 14:18:00.882 of the disability coming up with 2017-03-13 14:18:03.869 a system in the society. 2017-03-13 14:18:03.87 To get to the point that they 2017-03-13 14:18:06.898 can think about advocacy or 2017-03-13 14:18:09.897 acting. 2017-03-13 14:18:09.898 Everything that you've learned 2017-03-13 14:18:13.945 depending on your cultural 2017-03-13 14:18:13.946 background is either your core 2017-03-13 14:18:15.993 -- you are a curse, 2017-03-13 14:18:19.994 embarrassment, or to fragile to 2017-03-13 14:18:22.007 do anything. 2017-03-13 14:18:22.007 There is this notion of you 2017-03-13 14:18:26.991 can't be allowed to fail. 2017-03-13 14:18:26.992 That's why we get participation 2017-03-13 14:18:32.997 stickers or ribbons. 2017-03-13 14:18:34.025 The notion of being able to fail 2017-03-13 14:18:37.026 and having it not based on the 2017-03-13 14:18:40.027 fact that you have a disability. 2017-03-13 14:18:41.026 Once you fail, you will 2017-03-13 14:18:45.107 appreciate your success. 2017-03-13 14:18:46.11 A lot of students prior to 2017-03-13 14:18:49.11 getting there, what is the 2017-03-13 14:18:51.11 population? 2017-03-13 14:18:54.115 What is the population of 2017-03-13 14:18:57.112 greater academia of children 2017-03-13 14:19:01.11 with disabilities in higher 2017-03-13 14:19:01.11 education? 2017-03-13 14:19:01.111 If that is what you are trying 2017-03-13 14:19:08.194 to get to, no one can tell you 2017-03-13 14:19:10.247 how to be a better comedian 2017-03-13 14:19:13.244 because they are scared to have 2017-03-13 14:19:14.242 you fail. 2017-03-13 14:19:15.245 And those of the things that I 2017-03-13 14:19:19.244 think when you talk about 2017-03-13 14:19:20.243 activism. 2017-03-13 14:19:21.244 Getting people to understand we 2017-03-13 14:19:24.242 are human and failure is part of 2017-03-13 14:19:27.276 humanity. 2017-03-13 14:19:27.277 And success is also part of 2017-03-13 14:19:32.275 humanity and it shouldn't be 2017-03-13 14:19:32.276 cheapened that you have a 2017-03-13 14:19:34.279 wheelchair, you get a ribbon. 2017-03-13 14:19:36.278 Let me earn my stuff. 2017-03-13 14:19:39.276 You have to fight for teachers 2017-03-13 14:19:43.315 to look at you as an actual 2017-03-13 14:19:44.365 students. 2017-03-13 14:19:44.366 That is an issue. 2017-03-13 14:19:46.361 You're supposed to be educated 2017-03-13 14:19:50.425 already. 2017-03-13 14:19:50.425 What the hell do I have to 2017-03-13 14:19:53.408 educate you for again? 2017-03-13 14:19:53.409 The advocacy, art, better 2017-03-13 14:20:00.41 opportunities. 2017-03-13 14:20:00.411 Before you get to that question, 2017-03-13 14:20:04.41 what opportunities does the 2017-03-13 14:20:08.403 parent have to know that their 2017-03-13 14:20:08.404 child can be a dancer or be a 2017-03-13 14:20:12.403 human and have aspirations in 2017-03-13 14:20:15.446 life. 2017-03-13 14:20:15.447 Prior to that, a parent without 2017-03-13 14:20:21.53 any disability background has a 2017-03-13 14:20:24.528 child, they go down the rabbit 2017-03-13 14:20:25.529 hole of the world of disability 2017-03-13 14:20:28.571 and they are never supported and 2017-03-13 14:20:30.569 they lose relationships, they 2017-03-13 14:20:32.57 lose community connections. 2017-03-13 14:20:32.57 If you go to a place of worship, 2017-03-13 14:20:37.621 look around. 2017-03-13 14:20:37.622 How accessible is it? 2017-03-13 14:20:40.611 If you're talking about 2017-03-13 14:20:44.618 Christianity, Lord Jesus, let me 2017-03-13 14:20:47.613 pray. 2017-03-13 14:20:47.614 Why are you trying to heal my 2017-03-13 14:20:51.612 disability? 2017-03-13 14:20:52.61 This is where we are. 2017-03-13 14:20:54.61 The activism in the advocacy 2017-03-13 14:20:58.653 raising the level of our 2017-03-13 14:21:01.655 humanity in the context of our 2017-03-13 14:21:01.655 human existence. 2017-03-13 14:21:02.652 >> Quite honestly, we received 2017-03-13 14:21:07.655 this question and I don't see 2017-03-13 14:21:08.654 the difference. 2017-03-13 14:21:09.66 There is no distinction because 2017-03-13 14:21:15.747 they are both advocating for 2017-03-13 14:21:15.747 something. 2017-03-13 14:21:17.743 Having the means of how they go 2017-03-13 14:21:19.759 about it in terms of activism, 2017-03-13 14:21:25.747 they are doing the same things. 2017-03-13 14:21:25.747 And how do we do that? 2017-03-13 14:21:29.794 Had a while out myself to be in 2017-03-13 14:21:34.806 my skin in a field that relies 2017-03-13 14:21:39.82 heavily on hearing, music, and 2017-03-13 14:21:41.862 how do you redirect your senses. 2017-03-13 14:21:44.906 Touching, feeling, connecting to 2017-03-13 14:21:46.944 be present and to say that this 2017-03-13 14:21:49.945 is an art form that I can do. 2017-03-13 14:21:51.945 By doing that, you are 2017-03-13 14:21:58.947 advocating for the importance of 2017-03-13 14:22:00.947 this humanity. 2017-03-13 14:22:01.946 And how it can unlock the 2017-03-13 14:22:05.948 channel. 2017-03-13 14:22:07.944 >> When you said this festival 2017-03-13 14:22:16.947 is 20 years ago, it occurred to 2017-03-13 14:22:20.952 me that I don't think we've gone 2017-03-13 14:22:20.953 much further than 20 years. 2017-03-13 14:22:22.995 I think there is still a 2017-03-13 14:22:26.015 complete cultural apartheid 2017-03-13 14:22:32.046 reinforced by funding agencies. 2017-03-13 14:22:32.047 We are all supposed to have our 2017-03-13 14:22:37.065 accessibility, completely 2017-03-13 14:22:39.079 ignored. 2017-03-13 14:22:39.08 The states. 2017-03-13 14:22:46.073 Vermont, Massachusetts, 2017-03-13 14:22:46.074 California, you had the 2017-03-13 14:22:49.072 accessibility completely 2017-03-13 14:22:51.071 ignored. 2017-03-13 14:22:51.072 Everyone is talking about 2017-03-13 14:22:59.113 architectural accommodations. 2017-03-13 14:23:01.117 That is the access plant. 2017-03-13 14:23:06.126 Most art organizations are 2017-03-13 14:23:12.115 completely hostile to people 2017-03-13 14:23:12.115 with disabilities, and they 2017-03-13 14:23:15.158 should not receive federal 2017-03-13 14:23:16.156 dollars. 2017-03-13 14:23:16.156 They should not receive money 2017-03-13 14:23:21.165 from the arts Council. 2017-03-13 14:23:21.166 They should not receive money 2017-03-13 14:23:27.158 and all of these agencies are 2017-03-13 14:23:28.157 still perpetuating by giving 2017-03-13 14:23:31.158 public dollars to these 2017-03-13 14:23:35.172 institutions still talking about 2017-03-13 14:23:35.173 ramps 27 years later. 2017-03-13 14:23:37.199 If you look at our online work, 2017-03-13 14:23:48.297 it is not accessible. 2017-03-13 14:23:48.298 Even the typeface is 2017-03-13 14:23:52.296 inappropriate. 2017-03-13 14:23:53.298 Artists have said to me, I feel 2017-03-13 14:24:01.295 kind of uncomfortable having an 2017-03-13 14:24:04.297 audio describe her. 2017-03-13 14:24:04.298 >> They are describing my work. 2017-03-13 14:24:08.332 >> It doesn't occur to them that 2017-03-13 14:24:18.326 there are multiple ways in. 2017-03-13 14:24:18.326 And by excluding these things, 2017-03-13 14:24:23.37 you are not allowing the public 2017-03-13 14:24:23.37 to come in. 2017-03-13 14:24:23.371 My advocacy is around these 2017-03-13 14:24:28.711 issues. 2017-03-13 14:24:29.408 I went in my wheelchair. 2017-03-13 14:24:37.411 I can literally kick the door in 2017-03-13 14:24:45.412 . 2017-03-13 14:24:45.413 It's not acceptable. 2017-03-13 14:24:45.414 I want to see a brand-new 2017-03-13 14:24:49.449 building. 2017-03-13 14:24:49.45 No power assist on the brand-new 2017-03-13 14:24:53.453 building. 2017-03-13 14:24:53.454 The dose and stood on the other 2017-03-13 14:24:57.451 side of the door and looked. 2017-03-13 14:24:57.451 Not acceptable. 2017-03-13 14:25:00.451 I happen to know the director so 2017-03-13 14:25:05.454 we had conversations about it. 2017-03-13 14:25:08.45 Museums, curators hang art. 2017-03-13 14:25:13.449 61 inches is the center in 2017-03-13 14:25:18.451 museums because it is the center 2017-03-13 14:25:20.45 of their view of they are 2017-03-13 14:25:20.451 standing. 2017-03-13 14:25:20.452 That is no longer appropriate. 2017-03-13 14:25:24.451 And I get challenged. 2017-03-13 14:25:26.474 Some people walk in and say to 2017-03-13 14:25:29.498 me, it looks a little low. 2017-03-13 14:25:31.507 Sit in a chair and look at it. 2017-03-13 14:25:34.545 Museums are refusing to move it 2017-03-13 14:25:37.548 down. 2017-03-13 14:25:38.546 The culture Israel. 2017-03-13 14:25:42.549 It's not any different from 1990 2017-03-13 14:25:47.549 and it is a real issue. 2017-03-13 14:25:47.55 I hope one of the things that we 2017-03-13 14:25:50.575 deal with is not just empowering 2017-03-13 14:25:54.589 dancers with disabilities and we 2017-03-13 14:25:57.619 find ways for our public 2017-03-13 14:26:00.621 institutions to welcome 2017-03-13 14:26:01.626 audiences to come in and have 2017-03-13 14:26:06.618 fuller participation. 2017-03-13 14:26:11.633 That is where my advocacy is 2017-03-13 14:26:11.633 these days. 2017-03-13 14:26:11.634 >> My call to action, one of the 2017-03-13 14:26:19.751 things that I did was about 10 2017-03-13 14:26:19.751 years ago, I started realizing 2017-03-13 14:26:22.748 the field of integrated dance 2017-03-13 14:26:25.798 really needed to have a place to 2017-03-13 14:26:25.798 meet and a way to do that. 2017-03-13 14:26:27.798 I started this project with 2017-03-13 14:26:36.828 funding from the Doris Duke 2017-03-13 14:26:37.826 foundation to do a national 2017-03-13 14:26:40.829 convening on the future of 2017-03-13 14:26:42.829 integrated dance in the USA. 2017-03-13 14:26:42.829 The first one ever is 2017-03-13 14:26:45.83 ridiculous. 2017-03-13 14:26:45.831 We followed that up with six 2017-03-13 14:26:49.826 regional meetings. 2017-03-13 14:26:50.832 It is continuing on initiatives 2017-03-13 14:26:56.841 that we put proposals and to 2017-03-13 14:26:59.838 advance artistry and training 2017-03-13 14:26:59.838 opportunities. 2017-03-13 14:27:00.828 It is my personal call to 2017-03-13 14:27:03.83 action. 2017-03-13 14:27:03.831 I hope you all get to meet this 2017-03-13 14:27:09.827 week. 2017-03-13 14:27:09.827 He is fabulous and also 2017-03-13 14:27:13.833 disabled. 2017-03-13 14:27:13.834 He comes as a trained dancer to 2017-03-13 14:27:16.831 disability. 2017-03-13 14:27:16.832 That is what I am doing. 2017-03-13 14:27:19.83 I'm trying to advance artistry 2017-03-13 14:27:23.83 in this country because we are a 2017-03-13 14:27:26.873 decade and a half behind the 2017-03-13 14:27:26.874 U.K.. 2017-03-13 14:27:26.874 It is unacceptable. 2017-03-13 14:27:31.871 >> A little later than I 2017-03-13 14:27:35.876 promised, but I think we've had 2017-03-13 14:27:39.876 a good conversation. 2017-03-13 14:27:39.876 Let me encourage everyone. 2017-03-13 14:27:42.876 Please stick around for the 2017-03-13 14:27:49.001 conversations afterwards. 2017-03-13 14:27:49.001 We'll all be part of it. 2017-03-13 14:27:54.054 The various folks will be 2017-03-13 14:27:58.056 joining us and you can give us 2017-03-13 14:28:02.051 directions. 2017-03-13 14:28:02.052 >> First of all, thank you 2017-03-13 14:28:07.049 again. 2017-03-13 14:28:07.05 But I really hope is that there 2017-03-13 14:28:17.08 isn't another meeting like this 2017-03-13 14:28:17.442 20 years from now where John and 2017-03-13 14:28:21.081 Judy and Ruth and folks have to 2017-03-13 14:28:23.081 say that we had this same 2017-03-13 14:28:24.084 conversation 20 years ago. 2017-03-13 14:28:24.085 I hope you can take their call 2017-03-13 14:28:29.083 to action seriously. 2017-03-13 14:28:29.083 I will remind our facilitators 2017-03-13 14:28:32.087 and tell you all that what we 2017-03-13 14:28:32.087 hope out of the next 90 minutes 2017-03-13 14:28:36.125 is you come back into this room 2017-03-13 14:28:39.149 with three solid action steps. 2017-03-13 14:28:43.123 Not things that you hope someone 2017-03-13 14:28:45.133 also do, but things that you in 2017-03-13 14:28:48.125 your life and in your world and 2017-03-13 14:28:48.126 your career and your peers will 2017-03-13 14:28:51.167 do. 2017-03-13 14:28:51.168 And you will hold people 2017-03-13 14:28:54.17 accountable to. 2017-03-13 14:28:54.17 I know I'm asking that of my 2017-03-13 14:28:58.208 colleagues for us. 2017-03-13 14:28:58.209 And I hope that we can do that. 2017-03-13 14:29:01.25 There will be graphic 2017-03-13 14:29:05.311 facilitation. 2017-03-13 14:29:05.312 Here is where you're going. 2017-03-13 14:29:10.301 Activism is the number one 2017-03-13 14:29:14.302 breakout. 2017-03-13 14:29:16.304 That is Dawn. 2017-03-13 14:29:22.377 That is in the second-floor 2017-03-13 14:29:24.378 lounge which is on this side of 2017-03-13 14:29:27.382 the building on the left side. 2017-03-13 14:29:28.381 Number two is with Charles 2017-03-13 14:29:33.38 Baldwin. 2017-03-13 14:29:33.381 And that is on leadership. 2017-03-13 14:29:37.378 Who is running the game? 2017-03-13 14:29:41.377 How do we influence them? 2017-03-13 14:29:43.376 That is the second-floor on the 2017-03-13 14:29:49.418 other side of the room. 2017-03-13 14:29:49.418 Professional training in the 2017-03-13 14:29:54.433 lounge over here. 2017-03-13 14:29:54.433 If you want to talk about 2017-03-13 14:29:57.418 professional training issues. 2017-03-13 14:30:00.415 And artistic decisions. 2017-03-13 14:30:02.416 Casting. 2017-03-13 14:30:03.417 How do we hire? 2017-03-13 14:30:07.459 That will be in this room right 2017-03-13 14:30:08.465 here. 2017-03-13 14:30:08.465 Feel free to move the chairs 2017-03-13 14:30:12.462 around. 2017-03-13 14:30:12.463 You are typing notes and you are 2017-03-13 14:30:16.484 hitting record on the audio 2017-03-13 14:30:19.504 recorders in the room. 2017-03-13 14:30:19.505 You all know what you're doing? 2017-03-13 14:30:23.503 Restrooms and water fountains 2017-03-13 14:30:26.503 are there. 2017-03-13 14:30:26.503 We will see you back in this 2017-03-13 14:30:30.586 room at 4:00. 2017-03-13 14:30:30.586 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 14:31:15.67 >> We have the sing happy 2017-03-13 14:31:17.67 birthday. 2017-03-13 14:31:17.671 So we cannot let that go. 2017-03-13 14:31:20.669 And she got a present. 2017-03-13 14:31:24.672 Right? 2017-03-13 14:31:24.673 Who wants to start us off? 2017-03-13 14:31:27.67 >> Happy birthday to you ♪ 2017-03-13 14:31:32.669 At Uber the to you ♪ 2017-03-13 14:31:35.715 -- happy birthday to you ♪ 2017-03-13 14:31:38.71 Happy birthday dear Judy ♪ 2017-03-13 14:31:42.71 Happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ 2017-03-13 14:31:45.714 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 14:49:03.825 >> Not just good ASL, they have 2017-03-13 14:49:03.826 to be an interpreter. 2017-03-13 14:49:03.826 You also have to have an actor 2017-03-13 14:49:09.831 that has some passing 2017-03-13 14:49:09.832 familiarity with ASL. 2017-03-13 14:49:11.821 Most of the time, this role is 2017-03-13 14:49:15.82 cast with people who don't know 2017-03-13 14:49:20.829 ASL beforehand but can pick up a 2017-03-13 14:49:20.83 little bit they need in the play 2017-03-13 14:49:23.831 because that character doesn't 2017-03-13 14:49:23.832 need a lot of ASL. 2017-03-13 14:49:28.822 They need a little bit and to be 2017-03-13 14:49:29.866 terrible at it. 2017-03-13 14:49:29.867 It is not so hard to cast. 2017-03-13 14:49:31.923 Our Director trained for the 2017-03-13 14:49:35.917 year before she directed the 2017-03-13 14:49:35.918 play. 2017-03-13 14:49:38.915 It wasn't a requirement of the 2017-03-13 14:49:40.919 production or the script. 2017-03-13 14:49:40.92 They have people who have 2017-03-13 14:49:44.954 directed display that don't know 2017-03-13 14:49:44.955 ASL but I think that is ready 2017-03-13 14:49:47.949 challenging to do. 2017-03-13 14:49:47.95 Our director opted in and took 2017-03-13 14:49:50.951 training in order to get 2017-03-13 14:49:56.045 conversant, certainly not 2017-03-13 14:49:58.032 fluent. 2017-03-13 14:49:58.033 We had a lighting designer who 2017-03-13 14:50:01.046 is death -- who was deaf. 2017-03-13 14:50:05.031 Certainly not a requirement but 2017-03-13 14:50:10.032 if you look down the list at who 2017-03-13 14:50:10.033 else was on the staff, somebody 2017-03-13 14:50:13.031 in the room was our staff who 2017-03-13 14:50:16.032 was our coordinator for our 2017-03-13 14:50:19.075 interpreters. 2017-03-13 14:50:19.076 We had a lot of people working 2017-03-13 14:50:23.078 with the production. 2017-03-13 14:50:23.079 Not the designers are the actors 2017-03-13 14:50:28.073 are the director or the company, 2017-03-13 14:50:29.075 the people in the community who 2017-03-13 14:50:32.072 we invited to be in the 2017-03-13 14:50:33.079 conversation with us. 2017-03-13 14:50:33.08 It plays a love story and it 2017-03-13 14:50:39.076 involves a same-sex relationship 2017-03-13 14:50:40.073 as well as opposite sex 2017-03-13 14:50:43.082 relationships. 2017-03-13 14:50:43.082 And there is a play that 2017-03-13 14:50:49.077 involves a performer that uses a 2017-03-13 14:50:49.078 wheelchair. 2017-03-13 14:50:49.079 Those actors, the playwright 2017-03-13 14:50:54.085 demands that the actors have 2017-03-13 14:51:01.076 those experiences. 2017-03-13 14:51:01.077 You can do love person with an 2017-03-13 14:51:05.121 actor playing the deaf role who 2017-03-13 14:51:05.121 is not half. 2017-03-13 14:51:08.121 ==-- not deaf. 2017-03-13 14:51:12.166 I guess you could, but it would 2017-03-13 14:51:18.176 go against the respect of the 2017-03-13 14:51:19.201 playwright in the smarts and 2017-03-13 14:51:20.202 propriety of artistry. 2017-03-13 14:51:20.202 A performer he who uses a 2017-03-13 14:51:24.203 wheelchair, it is important. 2017-03-13 14:53:33.537 >> Figuring out how we want to 2017-03-13 14:53:38.538 work in the spaces we want to 2017-03-13 14:53:40.58 working with the collaborators. 2017-03-13 14:53:40.58 I wanted to talk through a 2017-03-13 14:53:43.619 couple of company processes that 2017-03-13 14:53:47.621 may be Warrant obvious to us at 2017-03-13 14:53:50.621 the beginning and aren't obvious 2017-03-13 14:53:50.622 from the outside. 2017-03-13 14:53:55.619 In terms of a company that has 2017-03-13 14:53:56.621 no members that are disabled 2017-03-13 14:53:58.624 decide to do productions that 2017-03-13 14:54:01.624 involve actors with 2017-03-13 14:54:01.624 disabilities. 2017-03-13 14:54:01.625 One thing that we had to do a 2017-03-13 14:54:08.72 lot about casting. 2017-03-13 14:54:08.721 That normalized people show up. 2017-03-13 14:54:20.748 They just come to you and they 2017-03-13 14:54:24.753 submit their head shots and sign 2017-03-13 14:54:24.754 up for a slot. 2017-03-13 14:54:25.768 You decide and you might have to 2017-03-13 14:54:30.79 do a little outreach if it is a 2017-03-13 14:54:30.79 role outside of the normal 2017-03-13 14:54:34.788 casting pool. 2017-03-13 14:54:34.788 We find that company one, it 2017-03-13 14:54:37.789 doesn't matter what play we are 2017-03-13 14:54:39.79 doing. 2017-03-13 14:54:39.79 We are never doing plays sitting 2017-03-13 14:54:44.799 at the center of what is 2017-03-13 14:54:44.8 considered normative in Boston. 2017-03-13 14:54:47.789 We don't do plays with a lot of 2017-03-13 14:54:51.832 white people or people over 30. 2017-03-13 14:54:52.828 And we often are doing plays 2017-03-13 14:54:56.832 seeking out performers that 2017-03-13 14:54:59.83 perhaps don't consider 2017-03-13 14:54:59.83 themselves professional actors. 2017-03-13 14:55:02.832 Our casting processes differ 2017-03-13 14:55:06.833 from what you might see at 2017-03-13 14:55:09.834 another theater company. 2017-03-13 14:55:09.835 We do a lot of outreach to the 2017-03-13 14:55:13.873 community and ask people to help 2017-03-13 14:55:13.874 us find people that consider 2017-03-13 14:55:18.873 themselves to have an affinity 2017-03-13 14:55:18.874 with theater but may not 2017-03-13 14:55:22.874 practice acting on the regular. 2017-03-13 14:55:22.875 We also have a training program 2017-03-13 14:55:25.871 in place with our company. 2017-03-13 14:55:27.872 And a lot of the actors come 2017-03-13 14:55:31.876 through that program, but not 2017-03-13 14:55:33.876 all of them. 2017-03-13 14:55:34.873 It's not just about where you 2017-03-13 14:55:38.924 send your casting call, but how 2017-03-13 14:55:41.972 it is phrased or framed. 2017-03-13 14:55:41.973 Also, where your locations are 2017-03-13 14:55:46.974 and you might invite people to 2017-03-13 14:55:48.974 come to audition. 2017-03-13 14:55:50.973 What is the idea about what 2017-03-13 14:55:54.001 makes a real audition. 2017-03-13 14:55:56 A professionalized actor might 2017-03-13 14:56:01.047 have a set of assumptions on 2017-03-13 14:56:01.048 that. 2017-03-13 14:56:01.049 Others might not have an idea of 2017-03-13 14:56:05.041 what the proper protocol or 2017-03-13 14:56:07.04 decorum might be. 2017-03-13 14:56:08.042 You have release some of those 2017-03-13 14:56:14.042 ideas about what decorum looks 2017-03-13 14:56:17.046 like. 2017-03-13 14:56:17.047 It is something we talked a lot 2017-03-13 14:56:20.042 about internally. 2017-03-13 14:56:21.043 We spent time talking about the 2017-03-13 14:56:28.084 structures of our company and 2017-03-13 14:56:31.089 what assumptions underpin them. 2017-03-13 14:56:32.083 What does a rehearsal look like? 2017-03-13 14:56:35.085 Here is a tangible example. 2017-03-13 14:56:38.087 For love person, we have a deaf 2017-03-13 14:56:44.125 actor, deaf lighting designer. 2017-03-13 14:56:48.173 Interpreters everywhere. 2017-03-13 14:56:49.173 For interpreters in the room at 2017-03-13 14:56:53.178 any given time. 2017-03-13 14:56:53.179 In tech rehearsal, the room is 2017-03-13 14:56:57.172 dark because you're running 2017-03-13 14:57:00.174 through the lighting cues. 2017-03-13 14:57:02.221 An interpreter can't actually be 2017-03-13 14:57:05.229 seen. 2017-03-13 14:57:05.229 If you're trying to communicate 2017-03-13 14:57:09.223 backstage to an actor that needs 2017-03-13 14:57:09.224 to make an entrance and running 2017-03-13 14:57:13.222 the entrance over and over 2017-03-13 14:57:15.221 again, you have to institute 2017-03-13 14:57:16.247 systems to account for the kind 2017-03-13 14:57:19.252 of communication that would 2017-03-13 14:57:19.253 normally occur with hearing 2017-03-13 14:57:23.287 actors like a stage manager 2017-03-13 14:57:26.253 saying OK, try that again. 2017-03-13 14:57:27.251 But you can't do that. 2017-03-13 14:57:30.296 We did not think of that 2017-03-13 14:57:34.31 beforehand because we had never 2017-03-13 14:57:34.31 done it before. 2017-03-13 14:57:34.311 We relied a lot on the lighting 2017-03-13 14:57:39.294 designer to help us develop 2017-03-13 14:57:39.295 systems in order to communicate 2017-03-13 14:57:42.323 more effectively with actors 2017-03-13 14:57:44.295 during that process. 2017-03-13 14:57:45.293 That's what I mean when I say 2017-03-13 14:57:47.293 the structures had to entirely 2017-03-13 14:57:52.295 change. 2017-03-13 14:57:52.296 And the performers are designers 2017-03-13 14:57:56.3 we're working with, when you do 2017-03-13 14:57:59.293 a piece that wants to be in 2017-03-13 14:58:00.295 communication with different 2017-03-13 14:58:03.293 communities, you have to be 2017-03-13 14:58:03.294 successful -- accessible. 2017-03-13 14:58:06.296 Are you interacting in authentic 2017-03-13 14:58:11.293 and useful ways with the people 2017-03-13 14:58:16.308 that are those performers 2017-03-13 14:58:16.309 support system? 2017-03-13 14:58:16.309 These are questions that come up 2017-03-13 14:58:23.304 all a time for companies that 2017-03-13 14:58:23.304 don't usually interact with 2017-03-13 14:58:27.338 these ideas. 2017-03-13 14:58:27.339 These are box office structures. 2017-03-13 14:58:30.337 They communicate with the Boston 2017-03-13 14:58:37.425 Center for the arts. 2017-03-13 14:58:37.425 It is not an easy place to get 2017-03-13 14:58:39.424 to. 2017-03-13 14:58:40.422 And not under the marquee that 2017-03-13 14:58:45.438 says the theater's name. 2017-03-13 14:58:46.482 So how you help people find 2017-03-13 14:58:52.503 that? 2017-03-13 14:58:52.504 About wayfinding. 2017-03-13 14:58:57.545 If you're working with 2017-03-13 14:59:01.632 performers, you can't presume 2017-03-13 14:59:04.627 that your death -- your deaf 2017-03-13 14:59:09.628 performance -- performers and 2017-03-13 14:59:14.629 members of the audience are 2017-03-13 14:59:17.629 English fluent. 2017-03-13 14:59:17.63 It is our email blast, our 2017-03-13 14:59:22.673 website, the ushers. 2017-03-13 14:59:22.673 Ushers are hired by the 2017-03-13 14:59:25.674 building. 2017-03-13 14:59:25.674 They are volunteers. 2017-03-13 14:59:27.977 Can't presume they will be ASL 2017-03-13 14:59:33.674 fluent or even conversant. 2017-03-13 14:59:33.675 Had you help and I sure to do so 2017-03-13 14:59:40.727 if they don't speak the same 2017-03-13 14:59:40.728 language? 2017-03-13 14:59:41.725 Overall, for love person, one of 2017-03-13 14:59:49.795 the things that was reinforced 2017-03-13 14:59:49.796 for company one that was true 2017-03-13 14:59:53.846 across many types of activism, 2017-03-13 14:59:55.839 ally ship, 2017-03-13 14:59:56.244 as I think everybody in this 2017-03-13 14:59:56.245 room knows, it is not something 2017-03-13 14:59:59.367 you are but it is something you 2017-03-13 15:00:02.579 do and you do it over and over 2017-03-13 15:00:04.418 again and you have to be willing 2017-03-13 15:00:04.419 to be wrong and be challenged 2017-03-13 15:00:10.409 and corrected so you can do it 2017-03-13 15:00:10.41 better. 2017-03-13 15:00:10.411 I think we made a ton of 2017-03-13 15:00:15.467 mistakes we are in greater 2017-03-13 15:00:22.46 communication with the deaf 2017-03-13 15:00:26.461 community and interpreter 2017-03-13 15:00:26.462 community in Boston. 2017-03-13 15:00:28.462 With colossal, we had similar 2017-03-13 15:00:32.498 challenges not around language, 2017-03-13 15:00:34.549 but around not just finding a 2017-03-13 15:00:39.532 performer who used a wheelchair 2017-03-13 15:00:40.576 but a performer of color who had 2017-03-13 15:00:41.533 a dance background in 2017-03-13 15:00:41.534 physicality that would be 2017-03-13 15:00:41.534 believable. 2017-03-13 15:00:42.541 Then to build the rest of the 2017-03-13 15:00:46.534 cast around that person because 2017-03-13 15:00:48.588 that person, that character, a 2017-03-13 15:00:48.589 appear's younger in the play. 2017-03-13 15:00:51.573 A younger self does not use a 2017-03-13 15:00:54.576 wheelchair and then a father, 2017-03-13 15:00:54.576 that trio of actors could be 2017-03-13 15:00:58.575 related. 2017-03-13 15:00:59.574 These company processes are 2017-03-13 15:01:08.578 complicated and I will not go 2017-03-13 15:01:09.621 through all of them here. 2017-03-13 15:01:09.622 I wanted to talk before I moved 2017-03-13 15:01:16.674 into another conversation. 2017-03-13 15:01:16.675 One thing we link to these as 2017-03-13 15:01:19.676 well as a play we did not two 2017-03-13 15:01:23.71 but I think it's worth knowing 2017-03-13 15:01:23.71 about, it is a play by John -- 2017-03-13 15:01:28.729 his entire body of work is 2017-03-13 15:01:29.712 completely worth knowing about 2017-03-13 15:01:30.722 if it is new to you. 2017-03-13 15:01:30.722 John was a playwright to use a 2017-03-13 15:01:36.729 wheelchair and had a series of 2017-03-13 15:01:36.73 diagnoses. 2017-03-13 15:01:40.744 He passed away several years 2017-03-13 15:01:41.752 ago, but every single one of his 2017-03-13 15:01:44.745 plays featured characters with 2017-03-13 15:01:48.796 some form of disability. 2017-03-13 15:01:52.86 Some of them used wheelchairs 2017-03-13 15:01:53.868 and some did not. 2017-03-13 15:01:53.868 He used a wheelchair so a lot of 2017-03-13 15:01:56.886 his characters did. 2017-03-13 15:01:56.886 Everyone of those characters has 2017-03-13 15:02:01.914 a sexual life, that these 2017-03-13 15:02:07.92 characters are often ones that 2017-03-13 15:02:11.911 are decent allies by our media 2017-03-13 15:02:11.912 narratives. 2017-03-13 15:02:13.914 Keep was talking about that as 2017-03-13 15:02:16.975 well as other panelists, that 2017-03-13 15:02:21.036 John would say the notion of 2017-03-13 15:02:24.036 sexual desire is a component of 2017-03-13 15:02:24.036 base humanity. 2017-03-13 15:02:24.037 To create characters that don't 2017-03-13 15:02:31.079 experience that is a disservice. 2017-03-13 15:02:31.08 In all three of these plays, I 2017-03-13 15:02:42.086 think one of the strengths is 2017-03-13 15:02:44.141 they show characters in 2017-03-13 15:02:44.142 wide-ranging complex situations. 2017-03-13 15:02:45.166 All of them have sexual desires 2017-03-13 15:02:48.163 and all are telling stories 2017-03-13 15:02:55.212 asking us to think in new ways. 2017-03-13 15:03:00.213 That is background info. 2017-03-13 15:03:00.214 We have a good amount of time to 2017-03-13 15:03:03.214 talk amongst ourselves. 2017-03-13 15:03:04.226 We have been asked to think 2017-03-13 15:03:08.3 about what are some action items 2017-03-13 15:03:09.264 and how do we want to talk about 2017-03-13 15:03:12.263 what it used to think about 2017-03-13 15:03:13.267 artistic decision-making with 2017-03-13 15:03:17.287 regards to performers with 2017-03-13 15:03:17.288 disabilities and people not 2017-03-13 15:03:21.291 accustomed to working with those 2017-03-13 15:03:22.287 performers. 2017-03-13 15:03:22.288 It might be a good idea to think 2017-03-13 15:03:25.287 about what the term access even 2017-03-13 15:03:25.288 means. 2017-03-13 15:03:25.288 It might be interesting for us 2017-03-13 15:03:28.289 to think about what are the 2017-03-13 15:03:33.297 perceived -- perceived or real 2017-03-13 15:03:35.288 obstacles. 2017-03-13 15:03:35.289 It might also be helpful for us 2017-03-13 15:03:38.288 to think about, how do we plan 2017-03-13 15:03:41.289 for the challenges we can't 2017-03-13 15:03:43.296 anticipate because there will be 2017-03-13 15:03:48.329 challenges. 2017-03-13 15:03:48.33 I think that is enough of me 2017-03-13 15:03:48.33 talking for the time being. 2017-03-13 15:03:48.331 Please, let's just make this a 2017-03-13 15:03:53.293 conversation. 2017-03-13 15:03:53.293 I will just moderate 2017-03-13 15:03:56.293 anti-threads together. 2017-03-13 15:03:57.289 Maybe what you're trying to get 2017-03-13 15:04:02.334 out of this conversation, or why 2017-03-13 15:04:04.332 you are here and I could help 2017-03-13 15:04:09.34 guide what we are talking about. 2017-03-13 15:04:10.331 What do you think? 2017-03-13 15:04:10.331 >> I have a little bit of a 2017-03-13 15:04:28.415 different perspective because I 2017-03-13 15:04:32.412 come from open-door theater and 2017-03-13 15:04:34.431 acting. 2017-03-13 15:04:34.432 We are open to anybody nine and 2017-03-13 15:04:37.445 up. 2017-03-13 15:04:37.446 Sexualizing the actors is 2017-03-13 15:04:41.417 something I cannot have on the 2017-03-13 15:04:41.418 table. 2017-03-13 15:04:42.454 Depending on our season depends 2017-03-13 15:04:50.415 on who is coming through the 2017-03-13 15:04:50.416 door. 2017-03-13 15:04:50.416 We usually do a musical. 2017-03-13 15:04:54.463 Last year, there were 92 actors 2017-03-13 15:04:58.464 and 30% self identified as 2017-03-13 15:05:01.464 having a special need. 2017-03-13 15:05:01.464 It depends on who comes to us as 2017-03-13 15:05:07.473 to how we modify. 2017-03-13 15:05:08.471 I find it gives us a little 2017-03-13 15:05:08.472 flexibility. 2017-03-13 15:05:08.472 We have no facility and no paid 2017-03-13 15:05:16.515 staff. 2017-03-13 15:05:16.516 They are all volunteers. 2017-03-13 15:05:19.581 We do pay positions like ASL but 2017-03-13 15:05:24.54 on the one hand, funding is 2017-03-13 15:05:26.544 always an issue but on the other 2017-03-13 15:05:27.561 hand, it gives flexibility you 2017-03-13 15:05:29.543 would not have in big companies 2017-03-13 15:05:33.555 so we can build a production on 2017-03-13 15:05:33.556 the ground up from thinking 2017-03-13 15:05:36.588 about it as a perspective of how 2017-03-13 15:05:38.622 to make this more accessible to 2017-03-13 15:05:43.715 actors and our audience. 2017-03-13 15:05:44.715 One thing I found as a constant 2017-03-13 15:05:45.764 hurdle is having the 2017-03-13 15:05:45.764 street 2017-03-13 15:06:09.309 credibility and community on the 2017-03-13 15:06:09.309 door. 2017-03-13 15:06:09.31 We have been doing ASL 2017-03-13 15:06:09.31 performances over 10 years now 2017-03-13 15:06:09.933 and only three years ago did we 2017-03-13 15:06:09.934 start having actors who would 2017-03-13 15:06:09.934 even come to audition. 2017-03-13 15:06:09.935 street 2017-03-13 15:06:10.576 credibility and community on the 2017-03-13 15:06:10.577 door. 2017-03-13 15:06:10.578 I worked 40 hours a week not in 2017-03-13 15:06:12.922 the theater and in the theater 2017-03-13 15:06:13.924 running it, and it was a good 80 2017-03-13 15:06:21.926 to 100 hour job. 2017-03-13 15:06:22.916 It is hard for us to break the 2017-03-13 15:06:30.973 glass ceiling as it were 2017-03-13 15:06:33.018 forgetting the actors in the 2017-03-13 15:06:33.018 door and getting the pieces out 2017-03-13 15:06:36.026 even though we bill ourselves as 2017-03-13 15:06:41.044 being welcoming to anyone who 2017-03-13 15:06:41.044 has auditioned. 2017-03-13 15:06:41.045 >> I would love to hear from 2017-03-13 15:06:46.058 folks and we can talk about all 2017-03-13 15:06:47.079 the things coming up. 2017-03-13 15:06:49.043 >> If you want to go ahead and 2017-03-13 15:06:59.171 respond to her? 2017-03-13 15:06:59.171 >> No P let's hear from folks 2017-03-13 15:07:02.171 and then we can talk more. 2017-03-13 15:07:02.172 >> I have been an actress for 2017-03-13 15:07:13.265 some time. 2017-03-13 15:07:13.265 My home base is here in Boston. 2017-03-13 15:07:17.295 Sorry, we are figuring it out. 2017-03-13 15:07:27.378 >> The live stream is dependent 2017-03-13 15:07:30.38 on it so I will hold my 2017-03-13 15:07:33.378 microphone. 2017-03-13 15:07:36.379 My concern is I have no idea 2017-03-13 15:07:45.419 what is in the casting person's 2017-03-13 15:07:45.42 mind and so I'd you not know 2017-03-13 15:07:48.426 what they see when they see me. 2017-03-13 15:07:48.426 I am sure they are looking at it 2017-03-13 15:07:57.428 through an autism frame. 2017-03-13 15:08:00.469 That is often how theater has 2017-03-13 15:08:05.517 been. 2017-03-13 15:08:05.518 It is looking at it through a 2017-03-13 15:08:08.596 hearing lens. 2017-03-13 15:08:09.589 Therefore, the worldview is 2017-03-13 15:08:12.59 through a hearing perspective. 2017-03-13 15:08:14.59 It is hard for me, a person with 2017-03-13 15:08:19.589 a disability, as a deaf actor, 2017-03-13 15:08:24.638 to enter the audition and 2017-03-13 15:08:24.639 understand what is expected 2017-03-13 15:08:26.73 because they can only see me 2017-03-13 15:08:27.769 through this one lens. 2017-03-13 15:08:27.77 If there is a deaf role, that is 2017-03-13 15:08:35.767 one thing but I am usually 2017-03-13 15:08:37.771 trying to get cast in any role 2017-03-13 15:08:37.772 and I have the freedom to 2017-03-13 15:08:39.768 audition for whatever role I 2017-03-13 15:08:39.769 want but they can only see the 2017-03-13 15:08:44.804 reasons I cannot be cast. 2017-03-13 15:08:45.799 I want, what is the reason, that 2017-03-13 15:08:50.798 you really cannot hire me? 2017-03-13 15:08:51.798 I think it is a limited scope >> 2017-03-13 15:09:02.886 Hear from other people what you 2017-03-13 15:09:02.887 are interested in talking about. 2017-03-13 15:09:06.891 >> We run a dance company here 2017-03-13 15:09:11.884 in Boston and as we have 2017-03-13 15:09:15.93 listened to this, we turned to 2017-03-13 15:09:15.93 each other and said, we have a 2017-03-13 15:09:19.973 production, what can we do? 2017-03-13 15:09:22.975 I have been jotting down notes 2017-03-13 15:09:30.022 and to go off of your point 2017-03-13 15:09:31.02 about funding, what would you 2017-03-13 15:09:34.055 recommend in terms of, we rely 2017-03-13 15:09:38.06 on our website, but we also rely 2017-03-13 15:09:43.094 on physical postcards and post 2017-03-13 15:09:46.175 service. 2017-03-13 15:09:46.176 A lot of things we have never 2017-03-13 15:09:52.177 stopped to consider but majorly 2017-03-13 15:09:56.177 because we have this much money 2017-03-13 15:09:58.178 to make it happen to even 2017-03-13 15:10:00.179 promote able-bodied people who 2017-03-13 15:10:04.221 can see those and hopefully 2017-03-13 15:10:05.22 come. 2017-03-13 15:10:05.221 I am curious what kinds of 2017-03-13 15:10:11.277 things company one has been able 2017-03-13 15:10:11.277 to do from a financial balance 2017-03-13 15:10:13.27 of how much you are able to 2017-03-13 15:10:16.343 accommodate and make it 2017-03-13 15:10:18.292 affordable for the company. 2017-03-13 15:10:18.293 >> Great. 2017-03-13 15:10:24.274 Do you want to add something 2017-03-13 15:10:24.275 else? 2017-03-13 15:10:24.275 Do you want to add anything? 2017-03-13 15:10:28.343 >> An entirely different 2017-03-13 15:10:34.35 direction but the other half of 2017-03-13 15:10:34.35 the same company. 2017-03-13 15:10:34.351 Another interesting thing is 2017-03-13 15:10:44.389 something you were talking about 2017-03-13 15:10:44.39 with the company one shows. 2017-03-13 15:10:44.39 Anytime we do a >> or an 2017-03-13 15:10:49.387 audition, we get young, 2017-03-13 15:10:54.456 physical, able-bodied dancers. 2017-03-13 15:10:54.457 I do not think we have stopped 2017-03-13 15:11:00.468 to consider, what is our 2017-03-13 15:11:05.478 responsibility, I guess. 2017-03-13 15:11:07.47 And not just able-bodied, but 2017-03-13 15:11:14.523 years ago, we had a diverse 2017-03-13 15:11:18.557 background of dancers. 2017-03-13 15:11:19.553 Diverse in every way in terms of 2017-03-13 15:11:25.638 dance backgrounds and 2017-03-13 15:11:26.639 Ethnicities. 2017-03-13 15:11:27.639 It has become a similar group of 2017-03-13 15:11:33.641 people coming to our auditions 2017-03-13 15:11:35.646 and it makes us feel we are not 2017-03-13 15:11:39.68 a diverse company even though we 2017-03-13 15:11:39.681 know who is coming to auditions 2017-03-13 15:11:44.69 and waterways to work around 2017-03-13 15:11:44.691 that? 2017-03-13 15:11:44.692 >> Whatever your concerns are or 2017-03-13 15:11:49.722 questions? 2017-03-13 15:11:49.723 >> I have a variety of hats that 2017-03-13 15:11:54.779 I wear and last year, as part of 2017-03-13 15:12:00.82 the program Charles Baldwin runs 2017-03-13 15:12:04.809 through the NBC Universal design 2017-03-13 15:12:05.888 and access, it really changed 2017-03-13 15:12:09.89 kind of my whole worldview, 2017-03-13 15:12:11.933 participating in that program 2017-03-13 15:12:15.976 and it is awesome and you should 2017-03-13 15:12:15.976 look into it. 2017-03-13 15:12:18.026 It 2017-03-13 15:12:18.026 It is an incredible program. 2017-03-13 15:12:29.28 I work as a performer and 2017-03-13 15:12:30.225 curator of performing arts and 2017-03-13 15:12:30.225 as a presenter. 2017-03-13 15:12:30.226 I am most interested in how 2017-03-13 15:12:33.272 there can be more roads of 2017-03-13 15:12:33.272 access for that, for presenting 2017-03-13 15:12:38.308 works that incorporate either 2017-03-13 15:12:41.307 performers with disabilities or 2017-03-13 15:12:44.306 are written specifically with 2017-03-13 15:12:47.322 casting requirements -- 2017-03-13 15:12:50.334 >> And presenting, not producing 2017-03-13 15:12:50.335 or using -- how you are 2017-03-13 15:12:54.323 presenting. 2017-03-13 15:12:55.322 >> Producing is me making and 2017-03-13 15:12:55.323 presenting is supporting and 2017-03-13 15:12:59.396 presenting it, finding ways to 2017-03-13 15:13:02.35 bring it to town or push it 2017-03-13 15:13:03.35 elsewhere. 2017-03-13 15:13:03.35 That is a large part of things I 2017-03-13 15:13:07.348 see in the Boston community. 2017-03-13 15:13:10.349 It would be nice to move beyond 2017-03-13 15:13:15.353 that and become a presenting 2017-03-13 15:13:21.407 community as well. 2017-03-13 15:13:21.407 >> Thank you. 2017-03-13 15:13:23.438 >> I work for Boston dance 2017-03-13 15:13:30.436 alliance, an organization that 2017-03-13 15:13:30.436 helps dance companies and 2017-03-13 15:13:33.432 artists make their work. 2017-03-13 15:13:36.477 My concern would be as a -- a 2017-03-13 15:13:43.479 service organization, how do we 2017-03-13 15:13:43.48 facilitate dance companies in 2017-03-13 15:13:47.479 making these strides? 2017-03-13 15:13:47.48 >> Great. 2017-03-13 15:13:53.522 Please. 2017-03-13 15:13:53.523 >> Another thing that comes up 2017-03-13 15:14:03.573 is, well, when I am talking to 2017-03-13 15:14:05.578 another deaf person, 2017-03-13 15:14:05.578 in terms of 2017-03-13 15:14:16.651 their viewing of performances, 2017-03-13 15:14:16.652 people do like to go to show, 2017-03-13 15:14:22.641 but they are tired of seeing 2017-03-13 15:14:22.642 shows where there is H -- an 2017-03-13 15:14:24.642 interpreter at the point of 2017-03-13 15:14:26.642 access. 2017-03-13 15:14:26.643 The community wants to see 2017-03-13 15:14:34.647 themselves represented up there 2017-03-13 15:14:37.78 in the stories. 2017-03-13 15:14:37.78 Where do we find theaters and 2017-03-13 15:14:41.777 companies that are not only 2017-03-13 15:14:45.782 hiring those actors but really 2017-03-13 15:14:48.858 feeling they are welcoming? 2017-03-13 15:14:52.908 It feels more like segregation 2017-03-13 15:14:54.855 when you have a show with no 2017-03-13 15:14:58.853 figures on the stage and you are 2017-03-13 15:14:58.854 adding on that access point. 2017-03-13 15:15:03.935 >> I understand that. 2017-03-13 15:15:06.976 I want to pull together some 2017-03-13 15:15:10.978 things that came up because some 2017-03-13 15:15:12.981 of them are interconnected. 2017-03-13 15:15:15.977 We had questions that fall under 2017-03-13 15:15:18.979 the heading that you brought 2017-03-13 15:15:22.028 forward, the notion of street 2017-03-13 15:15:22.028 credit, essentially. 2017-03-13 15:15:23.084 Several of these fall under 2017-03-13 15:15:30.075 authenticity or the ability to 2017-03-13 15:15:35.076 enter into conversations that go 2017-03-13 15:15:37.075 beyond marketing your call. 2017-03-13 15:15:40.104 Who feels comfortable coming, 2017-03-13 15:15:45.103 blitz -- which gets to what was 2017-03-13 15:15:50.106 said about your comfort level in 2017-03-13 15:15:51.149 an audition and your questions 2017-03-13 15:15:54.199 about how you are being viewed. 2017-03-13 15:15:55.186 These are really interconnected. 2017-03-13 15:16:00.186 Another question about how you 2017-03-13 15:16:05.188 get resources to tell your 2017-03-13 15:16:06.319 story, if you could have the 2017-03-13 15:16:06.319 best authentic intentions in the 2017-03-13 15:16:11.188 world, but how do you go out and 2017-03-13 15:16:14.232 be in conversation with 2017-03-13 15:16:14.233 communities that are far from 2017-03-13 15:16:17.23 you whether that is 2017-03-13 15:16:20.329 geographically or whatever that 2017-03-13 15:16:20.329 is. 2017-03-13 15:16:20.33 There is a question about how to 2017-03-13 15:16:27.373 sustain these efforts, so the 2017-03-13 15:16:30.328 one and done question, how do 2017-03-13 15:16:33.357 you keep doing it which actually 2017-03-13 15:16:36.36 goes to the second point, which 2017-03-13 15:16:41.355 is, we put a lot of effort into 2017-03-13 15:16:44.398 something, so howdy you build to 2017-03-13 15:16:45.415 create a finance -- a moment 2017-03-13 15:16:49.397 that exceeds other experiences? 2017-03-13 15:16:49.398 How do we communicate structures 2017-03-13 15:16:58.402 of support that help individual 2017-03-13 15:17:01.401 companies do the work that are? 2017-03-13 15:17:03.441 These all feel like they are in 2017-03-13 15:17:06.44 the same pot. 2017-03-13 15:17:07.483 I certainly feel we have 2017-03-13 15:17:11.48 encountered these several times 2017-03-13 15:17:15.483 over. 2017-03-13 15:17:15.484 I want to say one thing from my 2017-03-13 15:17:19.486 own personal experience before 2017-03-13 15:17:19.487 we crowd source. 2017-03-13 15:17:22.527 At company one, we try, and we 2017-03-13 15:17:26.606 do some things OK. 2017-03-13 15:17:28.616 We don't do them all very well 2017-03-13 15:17:32.692 and we fall down a lot. 2017-03-13 15:17:34.694 The only real piece of learning 2017-03-13 15:17:42.69 that I can bring from that is to 2017-03-13 15:17:44.742 be unafraid to fail. 2017-03-13 15:17:46.742 It feels like a lot of things 2017-03-13 15:17:50.74 that keep us from trying is the 2017-03-13 15:17:54.734 fear of getting along and 2017-03-13 15:17:54.734 offending somebody. 2017-03-13 15:17:54.735 I am sure we offend people when 2017-03-13 15:17:59.826 we do things that they were we 2017-03-13 15:17:59.826 try things, we do it well and 2017-03-13 15:18:01.832 the next time we do it badly. 2017-03-13 15:18:01.833 We build on our momentum. 2017-03-13 15:18:05.837 Something we try to do as a 2017-03-13 15:18:13.843 company is be transparent with 2017-03-13 15:18:13.843 ourselves and collaborating 2017-03-13 15:18:13.844 partners and where things work 2017-03-13 15:18:18.86 and where things did not. 2017-03-13 15:18:18.86 One thing I have learned a lot 2017-03-13 15:18:23.869 is to try to be authentically 2017-03-13 15:18:27.883 transparent. 2017-03-13 15:18:28.86 Some of the challenges that each 2017-03-13 15:18:32.864 of you brought up our things we 2017-03-13 15:18:35.86 have encountered, tried to 2017-03-13 15:18:37.865 solve, and have done OK at and 2017-03-13 15:18:39.867 we are trying to do better at 2017-03-13 15:18:41.863 for whatever that is worth. 2017-03-13 15:18:41.863 I would love to get internal 2017-03-13 15:18:48.86 responses. 2017-03-13 15:18:48.861 I know you had something you 2017-03-13 15:18:48.862 wanted to say. 2017-03-13 15:18:48.862 Great. 2017-03-13 15:18:51.865 >> One thing that I found that 2017-03-13 15:19:01.862 was indispensable was the 2017-03-13 15:19:01.863 feedback from our actors and the 2017-03-13 15:19:06.862 audience, one thing we learned 2017-03-13 15:19:09.947 was the surveys but it is not 2017-03-13 15:19:10.965 just the service. 2017-03-13 15:19:10.965 What we are finding out from our 2017-03-13 15:19:15.95 actors is our actors would tell 2017-03-13 15:19:16.942 us, we used to do, and autism 2017-03-13 15:19:18.944 friendly training and the first 2017-03-13 15:19:20.943 time we did a friendly show was 2017-03-13 15:19:25.945 five years ago, and we had 2017-03-13 15:19:29.948 MetroWest autism alliance come 2017-03-13 15:19:32.948 and train our actors and our 2017-03-13 15:19:35.986 staff and we did not learn how 2017-03-13 15:19:41.996 to do that show except we 2017-03-13 15:19:48.005 didn't. 2017-03-13 15:19:48.005 And we learned through that our 2017-03-13 15:19:48.006 training was bad because it was 2017-03-13 15:19:50.079 not reaching autistic cast 2017-03-13 15:19:55.045 members. 2017-03-13 15:19:55.046 It was disenfranchising to them 2017-03-13 15:19:57.126 because it was paint -- it was 2017-03-13 15:19:58.098 pedantic and did not include a 2017-03-13 15:20:01.102 user expert in the formulating 2017-03-13 15:20:04.123 of the training. 2017-03-13 15:20:04.123 We got better at that and 2017-03-13 15:20:07.126 learned to do it that her. 2017-03-13 15:20:08.162 It is a brief training that 2017-03-13 15:20:12.128 incorporates our actors 2017-03-13 15:20:12.129 perspectives and it is a 2017-03-13 15:20:17.13 discussion like we are here 2017-03-13 15:20:18.13 which trained us to do better. 2017-03-13 15:20:18.131 It is the feedback from the 2017-03-13 15:20:21.181 community that allows you to 2017-03-13 15:20:23.242 learn from your mistakes. 2017-03-13 15:20:26.243 We all do really stupid things. 2017-03-13 15:20:29.237 I did a program in dyslexia 2017-03-13 15:20:31.237 friendly font that was not 2017-03-13 15:20:34.238 reasonable -- note was not 2017-03-13 15:20:36.278 reason -- was not readable. 2017-03-13 15:20:38.238 >> We talk about this a lot 2017-03-13 15:20:42.286 internally not just with 2017-03-13 15:20:42.287 programming we do around plays 2017-03-13 15:20:47.307 that involve characters or 2017-03-13 15:20:47.308 playwrights with disabilities, 2017-03-13 15:20:50.333 but around all of our 2017-03-13 15:20:50.333 programming, nothing for us 2017-03-13 15:20:55.38 without us, which speaks to the 2017-03-13 15:20:55.38 exact idea that you cannot do a 2017-03-13 15:20:59.408 training or a play without the 2017-03-13 15:21:03.406 voices of the people creating it 2017-03-13 15:21:08.451 , who it purports to serve. 2017-03-13 15:21:08.452 That is an important lesson. 2017-03-13 15:21:10.449 Thank you for bringing it up 2017-03-13 15:21:15.49 here at other thoughts about 2017-03-13 15:21:16.492 things that came up were 2017-03-13 15:21:16.493 different things? 2017-03-13 15:21:16.493 I feel like this can be 2017-03-13 15:21:20.491 conversational between all of 2017-03-13 15:21:21.489 us. 2017-03-13 15:21:21.49 Go ahead, please. 2017-03-13 15:21:27.49 That is OK. 2017-03-13 15:21:31.551 >> Another point is for our 2017-03-13 15:21:33.536 company, I love the work you are 2017-03-13 15:21:37.58 doing but there is no way I 2017-03-13 15:21:41.595 would be able to stage this 2017-03-13 15:21:41.596 because our model, to have 30% 2017-03-13 15:21:46.604 of our actors self identify as 2017-03-13 15:21:51.632 having special needs, I need a 2017-03-13 15:21:51.632 100% cash -- cast to support the 2017-03-13 15:21:56.632 infrastructure and I needed 2017-03-13 15:21:57.631 family friendly because of ages 2017-03-13 15:21:58.635 and I also need to fill an 2017-03-13 15:21:58.636 auditorium because we are solely 2017-03-13 15:22:01.633 driven by ticket sales and grant 2017-03-13 15:22:03.632 funding. 2017-03-13 15:22:03.633 I have to stage Cinderella and 2017-03-13 15:22:09.874 beauty and the beast and think 2017-03-13 15:22:09.886 outside the box how that will 2017-03-13 15:22:11.658 work with the mixed population 2017-03-13 15:22:15.666 as far as age level and 2017-03-13 15:22:17.657 everything. 2017-03-13 15:22:17.658 Back to your point, the only 2017-03-13 15:22:23.667 thing that would prevent us from 2017-03-13 15:22:23.667 casting you as an actor would be 2017-03-13 15:22:27.701 if Cinderella was a 15-year-old 2017-03-13 15:22:31.7 girl. 2017-03-13 15:22:31.7 As long as it is not sexually 2017-03-13 15:22:42.736 inappropriate, that would be an 2017-03-13 15:22:42.737 active choice. 2017-03-13 15:22:42.737 You were asking what makes a 2017-03-13 15:22:49.894 director see you as an actor. 2017-03-13 15:22:50.743 >> Right. 2017-03-13 15:22:53.741 Relating it to the role you are 2017-03-13 15:23:01.743 auditioning for, I understand in 2017-03-13 15:23:01.744 general, maybe there is a 2017-03-13 15:23:06.745 character and I say, I want to 2017-03-13 15:23:07.743 try out for that but I wonder 2017-03-13 15:23:10.745 what the cast person is thinking 2017-03-13 15:23:10.746 in that moment. 2017-03-13 15:23:11.746 Maybe there is a character that 2017-03-13 15:23:22.786 is black and I am black and they 2017-03-13 15:23:23.796 see that might be in line with 2017-03-13 15:23:23.796 where they are going. 2017-03-13 15:23:23.797 They may also have a hearing 2017-03-13 15:23:33.836 character and they see my 2017-03-13 15:23:35.832 blackness and once they know I 2017-03-13 15:23:36.835 am deaf, they will not cast me 2017-03-13 15:23:36.836 because they're like, that is 2017-03-13 15:23:40.834 how you are different, I am not 2017-03-13 15:23:40.834 hearing. 2017-03-13 15:23:40.835 The question is, will they be 2017-03-13 15:23:46.846 willing to take the risk to 2017-03-13 15:23:51.882 alter the character a little bit 2017-03-13 15:23:51.882 to do something a little 2017-03-13 15:23:51.883 different, maybe they will say, 2017-03-13 15:23:59.887 maybe I do want a deaf character 2017-03-13 15:23:59.888 and they take the risk and going 2017-03-13 15:24:00.884 to give -- a different 2017-03-13 15:24:01.903 direction. 2017-03-13 15:24:01.903 Moreover, the casting 2017-03-13 15:24:01.903 Moreover, the casting person is 2017-03-13 15:24:19.355 not willing to take that risk 2017-03-13 15:24:19.355 and they want to play it safe. 2017-03-13 15:24:19.356 So that is clear for me. 2017-03-13 15:24:19.913 So if I am that casting director 2017-03-13 15:24:23.916 or producer and I see a talented 2017-03-13 15:24:28.913 actor with a disability who 2017-03-13 15:24:32.913 comes in who I want to cast 2017-03-13 15:24:32.914 regardless of the role, and then 2017-03-13 15:24:37.915 it will tie into the next 2017-03-13 15:24:37.915 question, if I see talent in 2017-03-13 15:24:41.955 someone I want to hire who, 2017-03-13 15:24:46.955 through their disability, will 2017-03-13 15:24:46.956 necessitate added expenses to my 2017-03-13 15:24:50 budget, I've not been in this 2017-03-13 15:24:55.001 situation, but I imagine that 2017-03-13 15:24:57.011 would become a defining factor. 2017-03-13 15:25:00.05 Where do we find the extra money 2017-03-13 15:25:05.136 to make the artistic choice that 2017-03-13 15:25:09.087 will bring about the artistic 2017-03-13 15:25:11.088 fulfillment of the production 2017-03-13 15:25:14.094 when it can be seen as a 2017-03-13 15:25:18.139 barrier? 2017-03-13 15:25:18.139 >> I feel I could are playing 2017-03-13 15:25:36.165 musical chairs with this 2017-03-13 15:25:36.165 microphone. 2017-03-13 15:25:36.166 There you go. 2017-03-13 15:25:36.166 That is definitely a concern. 2017-03-13 15:25:40.171 Budgets are a concern for 2017-03-13 15:25:40.172 everyone. 2017-03-13 15:25:40.172 I really think there is the 2017-03-13 15:25:44.196 ability to negotiate with that 2017-03-13 15:25:44.197 actor. 2017-03-13 15:25:44.198 Start with the ability to say, I 2017-03-13 15:25:50.205 want to hire you and I want to 2017-03-13 15:25:50.205 take the risk him and find out 2017-03-13 15:25:51.208 what the actor needs and wants. 2017-03-13 15:25:54.207 You have to hire you first and 2017-03-13 15:25:59.207 be unsure of those decisions, 2017-03-13 15:26:05.287 really you have to put the actor 2017-03-13 15:26:06.253 first. 2017-03-13 15:26:06.254 You say I want them and have to 2017-03-13 15:26:09.262 hire them and then workout 2017-03-13 15:26:09.263 concerns together. 2017-03-13 15:26:09.263 You have to figure things out 2017-03-13 15:26:19.249 and maybe they only need for 2017-03-13 15:26:23.261 rehearsal and certain things, 2017-03-13 15:26:24.27 but a lot of it is negotiation. 2017-03-13 15:26:24.271 There is a play called Arcadia. 2017-03-13 15:26:29.294 The theater had hosted it and I 2017-03-13 15:26:35.338 was involved in a director new I 2017-03-13 15:26:38.343 was deaf and wouldn't be wanting 2017-03-13 15:26:40.341 interpreters for the reversal 2017-03-13 15:26:44.396 process and they were concerned 2017-03-13 15:26:44.396 about budgetary issues. 2017-03-13 15:26:48.405 We tried to negotiate some 2017-03-13 15:26:48.406 things. 2017-03-13 15:26:48.406 And negotiating point was the 2017-03-13 15:26:58.506 director would have to talk to 2017-03-13 15:26:58.506 me one-on-one. 2017-03-13 15:27:01.502 If we had no interpreter 2017-03-13 15:27:03.515 present, he could not just put 2017-03-13 15:27:06.513 out cues and lines and feedback. 2017-03-13 15:27:06.513 We had to figure out time. 2017-03-13 15:27:10.502 He set 10 minutes aside to 2017-03-13 15:27:14.502 direct me one-on-one. 2017-03-13 15:27:14.502 The director has to be willing 2017-03-13 15:27:15.516 to negotiate on both ends of the 2017-03-13 15:27:18.53 scale. 2017-03-13 15:27:18.53 Those were easy accommodations 2017-03-13 15:27:22.598 to be made to find the balance. 2017-03-13 15:27:25.543 >> I will offer, I will give you 2017-03-13 15:27:28.547 two examples, there are two 2017-03-13 15:27:33.562 examples I will offer, so it 2017-03-13 15:27:39.563 premiered at the theater in New 2017-03-13 15:27:41.555 York. 2017-03-13 15:27:42.564 That was a play developed with 2017-03-13 15:27:48.603 that actor who used a 2017-03-13 15:27:49.609 wheelchair. 2017-03-13 15:27:49.61 The actor came in and it was for 2017-03-13 15:27:53.609 a development process, for 2017-03-13 15:27:53.61 workshops, and they are work 2017-03-13 15:27:55.662 shopping at their office space 2017-03-13 15:28:00.689 and rented spaces. 2017-03-13 15:28:00.69 When they set to do the 2017-03-13 15:28:04.776 production itself, it was in a 2017-03-13 15:28:04.776 different building, it did not 2017-03-13 15:28:09.847 have any accessibility 2017-03-13 15:28:12.898 whatsoever, so the theater 2017-03-13 15:28:12.898 company contracted with a 2017-03-13 15:28:16.916 company that would rent them a 2017-03-13 15:28:16.916 lift to get the actor from the 2017-03-13 15:28:20.909 floor to the stage. 2017-03-13 15:28:25.045 The theater was not accessible 2017-03-13 15:28:30.983 backstage. 2017-03-13 15:28:30.983 The actor in the wheelchair 2017-03-13 15:28:31.979 could not use the backstage area 2017-03-13 15:28:34.025 so they rented a lift and tried 2017-03-13 15:28:34.026 it out and it was a nightmare. 2017-03-13 15:28:37.038 It was too slow and noisy and it 2017-03-13 15:28:43.047 would not function the way they 2017-03-13 15:28:43.048 needed it to function 2017-03-13 15:28:45.047 artistically to help the actor 2017-03-13 15:28:49.06 make the entrance. 2017-03-13 15:28:50.067 They scrapped it and decided to 2017-03-13 15:28:50.067 do one of the stair lift 2017-03-13 15:28:54.063 wheelchair movers. 2017-03-13 15:28:56.063 This was even worse. 2017-03-13 15:29:00.114 They installed it and went into 2017-03-13 15:29:01.143 tech rehearsal. 2017-03-13 15:29:01.143 Without -- they are now a couple 2017-03-13 15:29:06.164 days from open and it is a 2017-03-13 15:29:07.158 nightmare and nothing about it 2017-03-13 15:29:08.157 works and everything about it is 2017-03-13 15:29:11.16 detracting from the experience 2017-03-13 15:29:14.158 of the play. 2017-03-13 15:29:14.158 They redesigned the front of the 2017-03-13 15:29:18.157 stage to imagine a new way for 2017-03-13 15:29:22.195 the access backstage. 2017-03-13 15:29:22.195 They pulled out the front three 2017-03-13 15:29:23.215 rows and they built a ramp and 2017-03-13 15:29:28.21 reimagined the entrance from the 2017-03-13 15:29:30.232 audience level as a piece of the 2017-03-13 15:29:33.217 action itself. 2017-03-13 15:29:35.225 They can do that because they 2017-03-13 15:29:38.233 were faced with a problem and 2017-03-13 15:29:38.233 had to solve 2017-03-13 15:29:38.233 to solve it, so that is one 2017-03-13 15:29:50.256 thing, the pressure of having to 2017-03-13 15:29:50.257 do that, they had artists who 2017-03-13 15:29:51.276 were willing to problem solve. 2017-03-13 15:29:51.276 That is one example in terms of, 2017-03-13 15:29:55.268 how do we handle this budgetary 2017-03-13 15:29:56.266 early, how do we handle the 2017-03-13 15:29:56.266 challenges of negotiation. 2017-03-13 15:29:59.281 The actor did not -- did not 2017-03-13 15:30:03.275 negotiate anything in terms of, 2017-03-13 15:30:05.318 I need to get on stage because 2017-03-13 15:30:05.318 it was assumed that when it came 2017-03-13 15:30:09.363 down to it, the actor could not 2017-03-13 15:30:10.354 use the accommodations provided. 2017-03-13 15:30:11.36 From a casting perspective, one 2017-03-13 15:30:18.368 thing I think Boston has an 2017-03-13 15:30:23.363 advantage in is because we have 2017-03-13 15:30:26.359 so many deaf studies program 2017-03-13 15:30:26.36 here and interpreter training 2017-03-13 15:30:29.405 programs here, a lot of students 2017-03-13 15:30:34.48 are learning to be ASL 2017-03-13 15:30:34.48 interpreters and the people who 2017-03-13 15:30:38.482 are learning ASL in general, so 2017-03-13 15:30:43.776 we had a lot of people working 2017-03-13 15:30:43.776 around the show who were 2017-03-13 15:30:45.481 practicing their learning and we 2017-03-13 15:30:48.476 are a mentor ship company and 2017-03-13 15:30:50.481 that is one of our values. 2017-03-13 15:30:53.776 It would have been wicked 2017-03-13 15:30:54.499 expensive to hire everybody at 2017-03-13 15:30:57.493 professional interpreter level 2017-03-13 15:30:58.486 to work on the show but we did 2017-03-13 15:30:58.486 not have to because we had an 2017-03-13 15:31:02.565 opportunity because Chris 2017-03-13 15:31:02.565 Robinson was working with us and 2017-03-13 15:31:06.557 is here today doing interpreting 2017-03-13 15:31:07.566 and helping to host the event, 2017-03-13 15:31:10.59 he was able to connect us. 2017-03-13 15:31:10.591 I think this gets to what you 2017-03-13 15:31:12.569 are asking about tiered it is 2017-03-13 15:31:14.611 about finding connectors in your 2017-03-13 15:31:19.61 community and being in 2017-03-13 15:31:19.61 conversation early enough, well 2017-03-13 15:31:21.606 before you decide to do the 2017-03-13 15:31:23.613 thing, so they know you have the 2017-03-13 15:31:27.656 right intentions and you know 2017-03-13 15:31:28.671 where your blind spots are. 2017-03-13 15:31:30.727 I talked with Chris a year and a 2017-03-13 15:31:34.675 half or two years before we 2017-03-13 15:31:38.659 premiered the show about how we 2017-03-13 15:31:39.663 were going to do it. 2017-03-13 15:31:40.661 It is sometimes time and not 2017-03-13 15:31:43.709 money. 2017-03-13 15:31:45.705 >> I want to add is very easy to 2017-03-13 15:31:51.734 grant stuff like that and very 2017-03-13 15:31:53.739 hard to for stuff like the 2017-03-13 15:31:57.727 flight equipment to fly Peter 2017-03-13 15:31:57.727 Pan. 2017-03-13 15:31:57.728 There are a ton of sources for 2017-03-13 15:32:04.814 grant writing. 2017-03-13 15:32:04.814 For our budget, because we had a 2017-03-13 15:32:07.86 death actor for almost all of 2017-03-13 15:32:09.909 the rehearsals, we had a master 2017-03-13 15:32:15.907 who translated Dr. Seuss into 2017-03-13 15:32:16.953 ASL because it is not even in 2017-03-13 15:32:16.954 English, that was a quarter of 2017-03-13 15:32:20.962 the show budget essentially. 2017-03-13 15:32:23.958 You have seen us, and we are the 2017-03-13 15:32:26.942 tiniest theater company around 2017-03-13 15:32:28.963 and we are dirt poor and we were 2017-03-13 15:32:29.954 able to budget for that because 2017-03-13 15:32:32.954 of grant writing. 2017-03-13 15:32:33.985 >> I will tell you one thing we 2017-03-13 15:32:38.071 wanted to do we were not able to 2017-03-13 15:32:38.072 do, which gets to your point 2017-03-13 15:32:44.122 about audiences feeling welcome 2017-03-13 15:32:48.12 beyond the single interpreted 2017-03-13 15:32:48.12 performance of the run of a 2017-03-13 15:32:49.098 show. 2017-03-13 15:32:49.099 That play is itsThat play is its own 2017-03-13 15:33:01.315 interpreter. 2017-03-13 15:33:01.315 And it does not have 2017-03-13 15:33:01.316 interpreters working the show. 2017-03-13 15:33:01.316 The way the play is built, 2017-03-13 15:33:02.178 everybody's left out of 2017-03-13 15:33:02.179 something and everybody has 2017-03-13 15:33:05.143 access to something. 2017-03-13 15:33:05.144 That is the design of the 2017-03-13 15:33:09.191 experience. 2017-03-13 15:33:09.191 Because of that, audiences could 2017-03-13 15:33:13.196 come to anyone of these 2017-03-13 15:33:15.204 performances. 2017-03-13 15:33:15.204 Something we were not able to do 2017-03-13 15:33:21.28 because we did not have a good 2017-03-13 15:33:23.283 grant writing system in place to 2017-03-13 15:33:24.277 a comment this, and we did not 2017-03-13 15:33:24.277 think about it in advance 2017-03-13 15:33:28.328 enough, because it was a blind 2017-03-13 15:33:28.328 spot, it would have been great 2017-03-13 15:33:31.314 to find performances where we 2017-03-13 15:33:31.315 could have had the deaf and 2017-03-13 15:33:34.314 blind community to come in and 2017-03-13 15:33:37.324 see the show, but that is a 2017-03-13 15:33:37.325 level of interpreting that we 2017-03-13 15:33:41.32 had no experience with. 2017-03-13 15:33:42.362 Every patron needs interpreters. 2017-03-13 15:33:54.523 If you were to do a deaf and 2017-03-13 15:34:01.466 blind friendly performance, 2017-03-13 15:34:01.467 you're talking about budgeting, 2017-03-13 15:34:04.763 two thirds of the seats in the 2017-03-13 15:34:05.449 house are interpreters. 2017-03-13 15:34:09.459 One third of our patrons. 2017-03-13 15:34:12.462 If you are trying to make your 2017-03-13 15:34:13.456 budget from ticket sales even 2017-03-13 15:34:15.456 partially, there are so many 2017-03-13 15:34:19.49 other things to consider. 2017-03-13 15:34:19.491 That is something I wish we had 2017-03-13 15:34:20.483 done and that -- and that I hope 2017-03-13 15:34:23.497 we do in the future and requires 2017-03-13 15:34:26.535 much more time than we thought 2017-03-13 15:34:28.55 to offer it. 2017-03-13 15:34:29.529 >> For years, we did not do 2017-03-13 15:34:32.702 captioning because every time we 2017-03-13 15:34:33.577 looked, we applied for the grant 2017-03-13 15:34:38.611 and it is so expensive that we 2017-03-13 15:34:39.603 never did it and we decided to 2017-03-13 15:34:43.62 do it ourselves two years ago 2017-03-13 15:34:43.62 and with help, he has a software 2017-03-13 15:34:47.619 program our tech staff was able 2017-03-13 15:34:53.724 to tweet because his program is 2017-03-13 15:34:54.711 only four handheld devices. 2017-03-13 15:34:54.711 We had our set designer 2017-03-13 15:34:58.74 illustrate and then project on 2017-03-13 15:35:02.762 the walls our captions now and 2017-03-13 15:35:04.932 for under $1000, which again, we 2017-03-13 15:35:07.786 got a grant for, we bought 2017-03-13 15:35:09.781 projectors and we captioned the 2017-03-13 15:35:09.782 shows for under $1000. 2017-03-13 15:35:13.785 It is the time it takes to type 2017-03-13 15:35:14.766 in the script, and I am trying 2017-03-13 15:35:18.784 to get more companies to at 2017-03-13 15:35:18.784 least request the electronic 2017-03-13 15:35:22.782 script from the licensing 2017-03-13 15:35:23.782 companies so they will start 2017-03-13 15:35:25.783 releasing these things 2017-03-13 15:35:25.784 electronically. 2017-03-13 15:35:25.785 Pressing go go go, it is very 2017-03-13 15:35:34.859 cheap to caption. 2017-03-13 15:35:34.86 >> I did the same thing with 2017-03-13 15:35:42.857 performance last summer where I 2017-03-13 15:35:42.858 used the stream >>, -- stream 2017-03-13 15:35:48.855 text, where you enter it block 2017-03-13 15:35:54.897 by block at four lines at a 2017-03-13 15:35:55.903 time, but you can stream it live 2017-03-13 15:36:00.896 on your personal device. 2017-03-13 15:36:03.953 If you have a smart phone or an 2017-03-13 15:36:03.953 iPad, you log into the website 2017-03-13 15:36:07.948 and watch it scroll real-time. 2017-03-13 15:36:09.946 If you miss something, it is 2017-03-13 15:36:12.979 gone. 2017-03-13 15:36:12.98 It reduces the cost of having a 2017-03-13 15:36:20.041 projector or interpreter or a 2017-03-13 15:36:20.042 cart there and everyone has a 2017-03-13 15:36:20.042 phone so you can login and watch 2017-03-13 15:36:24.003 it. 2017-03-13 15:36:24.004 There are ways to get around 2017-03-13 15:36:31.019 that I am bartering and trading 2017-03-13 15:36:35.018 and selling my soul and other 2017-03-13 15:36:37.021 various methods of collaborating 2017-03-13 15:36:40.025 to make a more universal access 2017-03-13 15:36:45.072 for experience. 2017-03-13 15:36:45.073 Earlier, talking about the 2017-03-13 15:36:54.065 autism friendly show that ended 2017-03-13 15:36:56.065 up being everyday matinees 2017-03-13 15:36:56.066 because they are 2017-03-13 15:36:57.062 family-friendly, once the 2017-03-13 15:37:01.07 concept of universal design 2017-03-13 15:37:01.071 kicks into your brain, it is a 2017-03-13 15:37:03.066 basic concept that if something 2017-03-13 15:37:06.126 is helpful for a person with 2017-03-13 15:37:07.103 disability, it should actually 2017-03-13 15:37:10.134 help everybody's experience. 2017-03-13 15:37:16.104 Changing my mindset toward that 2017-03-13 15:37:18.111 end saying, I would love to use 2017-03-13 15:37:21.106 an interactive 3-D map to find 2017-03-13 15:37:21.107 my way around, that would be 2017-03-13 15:37:25.112 awesome and my 2-year-old would 2017-03-13 15:37:25.112 dig it. 2017-03-13 15:37:29.152 Changing the mindset has been a 2017-03-13 15:37:34.201 fantastic experience in learning 2017-03-13 15:37:35.23 how we can grow and exchange as 2017-03-13 15:37:38.207 a community. 2017-03-13 15:37:38.208 >> I wonder if you have 2017-03-13 15:37:43.205 something you are thinking about 2017-03-13 15:37:45.2 or if you want to ask follow-up 2017-03-13 15:37:47.202 questions. 2017-03-13 15:37:50.247 >> One thing I am thinking 2017-03-13 15:37:56.316 about, all of us feel it we 2017-03-13 15:38:02.354 don't want it to come down to 2017-03-13 15:38:03.356 money and budget but there are 2017-03-13 15:38:08.402 things that inherently eat away 2017-03-13 15:38:08.403 at the budget very gradually. 2017-03-13 15:38:08.403 I am thinking the different 2017-03-13 15:38:12.485 types of disabilities we are 2017-03-13 15:38:16.402 discussing keep coming up again 2017-03-13 15:38:16.402 and again. 2017-03-13 15:38:16.403 I will not say which of our 2017-03-13 15:38:21.447 favorite venues, but the 2017-03-13 15:38:25.503 multiple code -- multicultural 2017-03-13 15:38:27.502 is a wonderful venue but the 2017-03-13 15:38:27.503 seats are so uncomfortable. 2017-03-13 15:38:31.497 It might not be something you 2017-03-13 15:38:36.528 initially categorized as a 2017-03-13 15:38:36.528 disability, but we once had a 2017-03-13 15:38:40.499 reviewer with back issues, she 2017-03-13 15:38:40.5 did not write a review but she 2017-03-13 15:38:42.524 said, I do not feel comfortable 2017-03-13 15:38:46.606 writing a review because I was 2017-03-13 15:38:46.607 so much in physical pain sitting 2017-03-13 15:38:50.618 in the seat in that particular 2017-03-13 15:38:54.606 theater that I was distracted by 2017-03-13 15:38:55.613 it. 2017-03-13 15:38:55.613 These are things where they are 2017-03-13 15:38:57.608 not necessarily a disability for 2017-03-13 15:38:59.61 the -- in a sense of, can we put 2017-03-13 15:39:03.618 it wheelchair there, but it is 2017-03-13 15:39:06.65 still an issue where, who should 2017-03-13 15:39:06.651 that fall on? 2017-03-13 15:39:09.712 Does it fall on the theater to 2017-03-13 15:39:09.713 provide seating that is more 2017-03-13 15:39:11.697 comfortable for people who might 2017-03-13 15:39:13.722 have back issues? 2017-03-13 15:39:15.698 Does it fall on the company 2017-03-13 15:39:18.748 coming in? 2017-03-13 15:39:18.749 You are trying to prepare for so 2017-03-13 15:39:21.748 many different elements, which 2017-03-13 15:39:24.75 ones do you pass by? 2017-03-13 15:39:24.75 >> We had a similar issue, we 2017-03-13 15:39:30.748 don't have dedicated space for 2017-03-13 15:39:33.78 brick-and-mortar. 2017-03-13 15:39:33.78 The way the junior high school 2017-03-13 15:39:38.789 is set up is, the spotlights are 2017-03-13 15:39:41.777 run from essentially wheelchair 2017-03-13 15:39:43.783 accessible seating, so there is 2017-03-13 15:39:49.776 wheelchair accessible seating 2017-03-13 15:39:49.776 and the house but they had the 2017-03-13 15:39:49.777 theater set up so they don't use 2017-03-13 15:39:53.777 some of it. 2017-03-13 15:39:53.778 But we were really excess -- 2017-03-13 15:39:54.778 successful and they did not 2017-03-13 15:39:57.777 realize the problem. 2017-03-13 15:39:57.778 Sometimes they have 10 or so and 2017-03-13 15:40:04.861 then we have to juggle seats 2017-03-13 15:40:04.862 around and we know this will 2017-03-13 15:40:08.861 happen. 2017-03-13 15:40:08.861 We were able to talk to the 2017-03-13 15:40:08.862 venue and offer our services to 2017-03-13 15:40:12.859 remove the seating, move the 2017-03-13 15:40:17.909 lights to that corner and you 2017-03-13 15:40:21.953 really have to be creative and 2017-03-13 15:40:22.95 use your own people as physical 2017-03-13 15:40:27.003 labor to get things done. 2017-03-13 15:40:27.004 The venues are usually pretty 2017-03-13 15:40:31.029 cooperative. 2017-03-13 15:40:35.105 A need for it, I think. 2017-03-13 15:40:35.106 That has been my experience. 2017-03-13 15:40:37.07 >> Because we don't perform in 2017-03-13 15:40:42.079 the same location all the time 2017-03-13 15:40:42.08 and move around a lot, we are 2017-03-13 15:40:46.113 always in different 2017-03-13 15:40:47.114 conversations with our 2017-03-13 15:40:47.115 collaborators. 2017-03-13 15:40:47.115 We tried to enter into those 2017-03-13 15:40:54.152 relationships as we go with a 2017-03-13 15:40:59.162 set of standardized questions 2017-03-13 15:41:01.155 and concerns. 2017-03-13 15:41:01.155 Sometimes collaborators just 2017-03-13 15:41:06.166 have not thought about these 2017-03-13 15:41:07.201 things. 2017-03-13 15:41:07.201 If you bring it up to them, it 2017-03-13 15:41:11.218 goes back to the after walking 2017-03-13 15:41:13.255 into the casting hope, if you 2017-03-13 15:41:16.254 bring it up to them, the first 2017-03-13 15:41:18.279 response may be, I do not have 2017-03-13 15:41:19.285 that in my budget. 2017-03-13 15:41:20.296 You have to let that he the 2017-03-13 15:41:25.278 first response because people 2017-03-13 15:41:26.322 get nervous you will make them 2017-03-13 15:41:26.323 spent a lot of money on 2017-03-13 15:41:28.364 something you did not know they 2017-03-13 15:41:30.365 have to spend money on and they 2017-03-13 15:41:32.364 will try to find ways to work 2017-03-13 15:41:33.364 around it. 2017-03-13 15:41:34.365 If you persevere, I find when we 2017-03-13 15:41:37.501 continue the conversation with 2017-03-13 15:41:44.504 an openness, like, you have to, 2017-03-13 15:41:48.545 like OK, here are some things we 2017-03-13 15:41:50.5 thought of as solutions, with a 2017-03-13 15:41:53.552 couple of ways to problem solve, 2017-03-13 15:41:54.533 even if it requires them to do 2017-03-13 15:41:56.53 something, it usually opens up 2017-03-13 15:42:01.576 the conversation more 2017-03-13 15:42:01.576 productively. 2017-03-13 15:42:01.577 It does not always solve 2017-03-13 15:42:02.616 everything but this is not 2017-03-13 15:42:02.617 unlike this negotiation you are 2017-03-13 15:42:06.613 talking about. 2017-03-13 15:42:06.614 Sometimes, producers, artists, 2017-03-13 15:42:14.616 anybody in this relationship, I 2017-03-13 15:42:18.616 think we get nervous we will be 2017-03-13 15:42:18.616 judged as being wrong or 2017-03-13 15:42:23.749 nonprogressive or failing or 2017-03-13 15:42:27.625 offensive, and we just throw up 2017-03-13 15:42:32.615 these defenses to power through 2017-03-13 15:42:33.616 the thing. 2017-03-13 15:42:34.62 Sometimes, there is a lot more 2017-03-13 15:42:41.617 to be gained then there is. 2017-03-13 15:42:43.614 If we continue that open 2017-03-13 15:42:47.626 question and from the point of 2017-03-13 15:42:50.624 negotiation, one thing we tried, 2017-03-13 15:43:00.658 we try to come back and approach 2017-03-13 15:43:00.658 them and say that must have 2017-03-13 15:43:03.665 sucked, I am so sorry. 2017-03-13 15:43:06.662 I understand that is hard for 2017-03-13 15:43:09.674 you that this is where I was 2017-03-13 15:43:11.704 coming from. 2017-03-13 15:43:13.704 It is a lot easier to walk away 2017-03-13 15:43:18.756 or not have that conversation 2017-03-13 15:43:19.753 but it does not get us anywhere. 2017-03-13 15:43:19.754 We get nervous of offending a 2017-03-13 15:43:24.782 collaborator because we think 2017-03-13 15:43:27.79 maybe they will cut off the 2017-03-13 15:43:27.791 relationship with us. 2017-03-13 15:43:27.791 >> That is a very good point. 2017-03-13 15:43:34.867 It is a tough balance. 2017-03-13 15:43:43.91 We are going into someone else's 2017-03-13 15:43:46.908 space. 2017-03-13 15:43:46.909 At the same time, it is there -- 2017-03-13 15:43:49.91 it is their space. 2017-03-13 15:43:49.91 I think what you said is 2017-03-13 15:43:54.908 absolutely right. 2017-03-13 15:43:56.909 As I am hearing different 2017-03-13 15:44:02.953 things, I'm thinking back to a 2017-03-13 15:44:08.952 positive note. 2017-03-13 15:44:08.953 That was an example where the 2017-03-13 15:44:14.013 community time and again run 2017-03-13 15:44:16.011 into an issue they had with 2017-03-13 15:44:19.002 going to a presenter who said I 2017-03-13 15:44:23.047 would love to present you in the 2017-03-13 15:44:23.048 space but did not have the 2017-03-13 15:44:27.159 necessary resources. 2017-03-13 15:44:28.16 Could they go to home goods and 2017-03-13 15:44:35.164 buy a ton of cushions? 2017-03-13 15:44:36.164 >> We need to come up with more 2017-03-13 15:44:46.205 channels of communication things 2017-03-13 15:44:54.256 like projection equipment. 2017-03-13 15:44:59.266 We can share resources to make 2017-03-13 15:45:03.257 accessibility easier and cheaper 2017-03-13 15:45:03.258 for all of us. 2017-03-13 15:45:03.259 >> I am not sure if dance has 2017-03-13 15:45:09.32 its own set of the zone groups. 2017-03-13 15:45:11.329 Boston United feeder potluck 2017-03-13 15:45:15.331 Facebook group, I did not name 2017-03-13 15:45:18.412 it. 2017-03-13 15:45:18.412 It is a point for people to swap 2017-03-13 15:45:22.414 and share from this -- French 2017-03-13 15:45:28.439 community. 2017-03-13 15:45:28.44 I have too much lumber, so it 2017-03-13 15:45:32.463 seems there is already a desire 2017-03-13 15:45:36.455 for the needs sharing spirit I 2017-03-13 15:45:37.456 wonder if this could add into 2017-03-13 15:45:37.456 that. 2017-03-13 15:45:37.457 We are about 15 minutes from the 2017-03-13 15:45:44.508 end. 2017-03-13 15:45:44.508 We are supposed to come away 2017-03-13 15:45:47.515 with some kind of action items. 2017-03-13 15:45:48.529 It feels like there are dynamic 2017-03-13 15:45:55.582 questions coming up. 2017-03-13 15:45:56.581 One thing we want to think a 2017-03-13 15:46:01.603 little bit about is what are the 2017-03-13 15:46:07.624 real or perceived obstacles 2017-03-13 15:46:10.671 keeping us from being openly 2017-03-13 15:46:11.665 accessible and collaborative? 2017-03-13 15:46:13.663 I wonder what some action items 2017-03-13 15:46:15.67 are that are on your mind's and 2017-03-13 15:46:21.667 maybe we can brainstorm a couple 2017-03-13 15:46:21.668 of them? 2017-03-13 15:46:25.665 >> Yes. 2017-03-13 15:46:35.718 And one thing we have noticed is 2017-03-13 15:46:42.71 there are groups. 2017-03-13 15:46:42.71 One thing is it becomes a 2017-03-13 15:46:46.711 promotion platform and that is 2017-03-13 15:46:52.709 wonderful but it would be great 2017-03-13 15:46:56.754 to have a resource Pacific -- a 2017-03-13 15:46:59.758 specific sharing platform. 2017-03-13 15:46:59.758 >> Certainly one thing I could 2017-03-13 15:47:05.756 do is contact the person and ask 2017-03-13 15:47:11.804 if we can expand to include 2017-03-13 15:47:13.83 things like technologies. 2017-03-13 15:47:17.918 That is a great action item. 2017-03-13 15:47:17.919 What is something else you might 2017-03-13 15:47:23.919 do personally or something you 2017-03-13 15:47:23.92 might hope to do? 2017-03-13 15:47:23.92 I will offer one while you are 2017-03-13 15:47:29.916 thinking. 2017-03-13 15:47:29.917 I love what you are saying about 2017-03-13 15:47:35.917 where the spaces were deaf 2017-03-13 15:47:35.917 actors can come for roles. 2017-03-13 15:47:37.917 I am not sure we thought about 2017-03-13 15:47:42.966 that in quite that way and we 2017-03-13 15:47:45.969 should. 2017-03-13 15:47:45.97 >> It is not just company one. 2017-03-13 15:47:54.007 It is the theater world 2017-03-13 15:47:55.109 altogether. 2017-03-13 15:47:55.109 The challenge Israel real and it 2017-03-13 15:48:00.058 is everywhere. 2017-03-13 15:48:00.058 -- the challenge is real and it 2017-03-13 15:48:06.088 is everywhere. 2017-03-13 15:48:06.088 I'm just wondering, what is your 2017-03-13 15:48:10.169 excuse? 2017-03-13 15:48:10.169 They are not trying to 2017-03-13 15:48:23.168 collaborate. 2017-03-13 15:48:23.169 They will think of one character 2017-03-13 15:48:24.17 and one role. 2017-03-13 15:48:25.169 Not that. 2017-03-13 15:48:25.17 I come in like any other actor 2017-03-13 15:48:29.251 and I leave really not thinking 2017-03-13 15:48:33.234 anything will come of it. 2017-03-13 15:48:34.212 Like I don't have a future here. 2017-03-13 15:48:34.213 >> I will speak for me and not 2017-03-13 15:48:41.21 anyone else. 2017-03-13 15:48:41.21 For me, I am not sure in turn we 2017-03-13 15:48:47.211 as a company, that we have even 2017-03-13 15:48:48.214 had the conversation about 2017-03-13 15:48:51.21 shifting our thinking about what 2017-03-13 15:48:56.307 it means to invite theft act -- 2017-03-13 15:49:00.377 deaf actors in. 2017-03-13 15:49:04.379 There is no reason we shouldn't 2017-03-13 15:49:05.379 accept we have not thought of 2017-03-13 15:49:05.379 it. 2017-03-13 15:49:05.38 >> That has been a long wait. 2017-03-13 15:49:12.377 I have approached many people in 2017-03-13 15:49:12.378 the community and even with 2017-03-13 15:49:17.387 that, they are still thinking 2017-03-13 15:49:17.387 either they are not interested 2017-03-13 15:49:22.383 in exploring it, or they cannot 2017-03-13 15:49:26.419 see past my lack of hearing. 2017-03-13 15:49:28.422 It is not an excuse any longer. 2017-03-13 15:49:28.423 I just want the opportunity 2017-03-13 15:49:32.427 really. 2017-03-13 15:49:32.428 I want to be able to work like 2017-03-13 15:49:36.419 any actor, as other actors are 2017-03-13 15:49:40.421 in the same boat. 2017-03-13 15:49:40.421 We want the opportunity to 2017-03-13 15:49:42.421 audition. 2017-03-13 15:49:43.434 It is a continued segregation 2017-03-13 15:49:48.508 and it is frustrating. 2017-03-13 15:49:48.509 >> Yes. 2017-03-13 15:49:53.518 I hear you. 2017-03-13 15:49:53.518 I want to talk about that more. 2017-03-13 15:49:54.512 My action item. 2017-03-13 15:49:58.511 >> To flip it back to casting, 2017-03-13 15:50:08.589 we have always thought of 2017-03-13 15:50:10.629 nontraditional casting, but it 2017-03-13 15:50:15.658 is hard to get actors out to our 2017-03-13 15:50:17.652 theater and it is hard to 2017-03-13 15:50:17.653 publicize the availability of 2017-03-13 15:50:22.636 the roles for our theater. 2017-03-13 15:50:22.636 While there is an opportunity 2017-03-13 15:50:27.636 for our company to do that, 2017-03-13 15:50:29.634 getting the word out into the 2017-03-13 15:50:33.633 general community -- 2017-03-13 15:50:34.63 >> It seems connected to what 2017-03-13 15:50:38.63 you were saying earlier. 2017-03-13 15:50:38.631 >> I keep grabbing the 2017-03-13 15:50:49.636 microphone. 2017-03-13 15:50:49.637 I am hard of hearing. 2017-03-13 15:50:55.676 It is not out of my scope. 2017-03-13 15:50:55.677 I would say go ahead and at for 2017-03-13 15:51:03.767 ties to the deaf community. 2017-03-13 15:51:03.767 There are channels. 2017-03-13 15:51:03.767 There are some young deaf actors 2017-03-13 15:51:08.765 who are thirsty for an 2017-03-13 15:51:08.766 opportunity. 2017-03-13 15:51:08.766 The question is, where are the 2017-03-13 15:51:12.816 programs for the deaf actors to 2017-03-13 15:51:15.817 be able to get the initial 2017-03-13 15:51:17.994 training? 2017-03-13 15:51:17.994 There are not any. 2017-03-13 15:51:18.881 We need at least one company to 2017-03-13 15:51:25.968 break the re-up -- break the ice 2017-03-13 15:51:28.982 and be first and set it in 2017-03-13 15:51:28.983 motion. 2017-03-13 15:51:28.983 Once that starts, you will see 2017-03-13 15:51:33.04 more people addition. 2017-03-13 15:51:35.043 It is really about the 2017-03-13 15:51:42.02 opportunity again. 2017-03-13 15:51:42.021 Doors open, people will start to 2017-03-13 15:51:45.064 take it. 2017-03-13 15:51:48.092 >> that is what we are trying to 2017-03-13 15:51:51.098 do. 2017-03-13 15:51:51.098 We are trying to train actors of 2017-03-13 15:51:59.101 different abilities and deaf 2017-03-13 15:52:00.096 actors, especially young, so 2017-03-13 15:52:03.099 there are more opportunities. 2017-03-13 15:52:03.099 >> Certainly I see this around 2017-03-13 15:52:07.104 Boston, more training 2017-03-13 15:52:09.204 opportunities are opening up to 2017-03-13 15:52:12.229 performers with physical 2017-03-13 15:52:14.262 disabilities, right, and often 2017-03-13 15:52:19.262 times it feels like a first step 2017-03-13 15:52:23.325 that training programs are 2017-03-13 15:52:23.326 encountering. 2017-03-13 15:52:23.326 Maybe it then stops there. 2017-03-13 15:52:26.33 I wonder whether there is more 2017-03-13 15:52:31.319 conversation to be had, 2017-03-13 15:52:33.313 especially perhaps this summer 2017-03-13 15:52:35.321 around the stage source 2017-03-13 15:52:35.322 conference, framed in the notion 2017-03-13 15:52:36.312 of activism and art, whether 2017-03-13 15:52:40.344 there is a conversation to be 2017-03-13 15:52:40.344 had, whether there are perceived 2017-03-13 15:52:44.346 barriers to word providing the 2017-03-13 15:52:46.345 training toward deaf actors, for 2017-03-13 15:52:49.346 instance. 2017-03-13 15:52:49.347 I think it is perceptive and not 2017-03-13 15:52:52.344 actual. 2017-03-13 15:52:52.344 Real or perceived barriers. 2017-03-13 15:52:57.386 I often know the person I am 2017-03-13 15:53:12.52 auditioning for, but very often, 2017-03-13 15:53:18.566 training needs to happen first 2017-03-13 15:53:21.564 you cannot just go ahead and 2017-03-13 15:53:24.603 audition without any training. 2017-03-13 15:53:26.638 The training for the actor, I 2017-03-13 15:53:32.679 happen to have contacts but 2017-03-13 15:53:35.738 still, it is the cart before the 2017-03-13 15:53:36.684 horse on this. 2017-03-13 15:53:36.684 There are some people who 2017-03-13 15:53:42.765 believe entering into the 2017-03-13 15:53:42.766 addition is very easy, but we 2017-03-13 15:53:46.764 know it takes a lot of work and 2017-03-13 15:53:48.769 if you don't have the 2017-03-13 15:53:49.823 professional developer for the 2017-03-13 15:53:49.823 addition training, you will also 2017-03-13 15:53:51.814 have the Mrs.. 2017-03-13 15:53:51.815 If I have someone who reaches 2017-03-13 15:53:53.849 out to me and know who I am, 2017-03-13 15:54:04.847 very often the deaf actor may 2017-03-13 15:54:07.886 not have the training and it 2017-03-13 15:54:08.888 impacts their ability to be able 2017-03-13 15:54:09.888 to audition overall. 2017-03-13 15:54:09.888 >> This feels connected to what 2017-03-13 15:54:14.889 you were talking about, 2017-03-13 15:54:18.002 connected to all of these 2017-03-13 15:54:18.002 points, which is, the act of 2017-03-13 15:54:22.97 asking people to come in, to 2017-03-13 15:54:25.973 participate in some way, so when 2017-03-13 15:54:29.972 actor, even if they are 2017-03-13 15:54:30.973 able-bodied, they hear, they can 2017-03-13 15:54:30.973 see, they are narrow typical -- 2017-03-13 15:54:39.066 neuro typical, it is an 2017-03-13 15:54:44.112 emotionally challenging activity 2017-03-13 15:54:47.118 and it puts someone in a 2017-03-13 15:54:47.118 vulnerability before you say go. 2017-03-13 15:54:47.119 Add on top of that the fact the 2017-03-13 15:54:52.117 performer may feel there are so 2017-03-13 15:54:55.114 many other barriers to being 2017-03-13 15:54:57.118 seen for who they are, so your 2017-03-13 15:54:59.147 question about how do we reach 2017-03-13 15:54:59.147 out to those people, it has to 2017-03-13 15:55:03.23 start while before you want to 2017-03-13 15:55:04.225 put the call out for the 2017-03-13 15:55:04.226 addition. 2017-03-13 15:55:06.222 It has to start with meeting 2017-03-13 15:55:12.223 people where they are and having 2017-03-13 15:55:13.227 conversations about experiences 2017-03-13 15:55:13.228 and specifically issuing 2017-03-13 15:55:17.222 personal invitations to people 2017-03-13 15:55:18.224 to come in and be part of the 2017-03-13 15:55:18.225 process. 2017-03-13 15:55:18.225 Almost all of the performers we 2017-03-13 15:55:27.224 work with has people in it who 2017-03-13 15:55:32.263 would not turn up for an 2017-03-13 15:55:32.264 audition. 2017-03-13 15:55:32.264 For many reasons. 2017-03-13 15:55:35.425 >> We do audition workshops and 2017-03-13 15:55:40.266 gear them toward the deaf 2017-03-13 15:55:42.266 community. 2017-03-13 15:55:43.321 We did audition workshop where 2017-03-13 15:55:48.318 we ended up with, everybody had 2017-03-13 15:55:52.381 various disabilities and we did 2017-03-13 15:55:55.395 not have the support staff, so 2017-03-13 15:56:00.365 we specifically gear our 2017-03-13 15:56:00.365 workshops. 2017-03-13 15:56:04.373 >> We do those and we do a kind 2017-03-13 15:56:05.368 of audition that is 2017-03-13 15:56:05.369 nontraditional. 2017-03-13 15:56:05.369 Traditional audition for theater 2017-03-13 15:56:10.392 is one person comes in and 2017-03-13 15:56:10.393 delivers a monologue and weights 2017-03-13 15:56:12.434 in a hallway and is tortured for 2017-03-13 15:56:15.471 some time until they are told to 2017-03-13 15:56:18.517 stay or go. 2017-03-13 15:56:18.517 We try and do group 2017-03-13 15:56:24.566 collaborative auditions where we 2017-03-13 15:56:24.566 ask people to interact with one 2017-03-13 15:56:26.566 another. 2017-03-13 15:56:26.566 Some of it is just responsive. 2017-03-13 15:56:33.629 People can let their guard down 2017-03-13 15:56:34.616 a little bit and curated to 2017-03-13 15:56:38.623 speak in that given moment. 2017-03-13 15:56:41.643 Those are other ways we worked 2017-03-13 15:56:46.726 on that we are not always 2017-03-13 15:56:47.795 successful. 2017-03-13 15:56:48.727 I thought your question was good 2017-03-13 15:56:49.767 about how you get people to come 2017-03-13 15:56:50.77 in. 2017-03-13 15:56:50.771 That is our constant question 2017-03-13 15:56:54.776 and it is never just, I sent an 2017-03-13 15:56:56.767 email. 2017-03-13 15:56:56.767 The email comes first and in the 2017-03-13 15:56:57.773 -- a year later we might get the 2017-03-13 15:57:00.819 person to come in for us. 2017-03-13 15:57:00.819 >> I think we have a couple more 2017-03-13 15:57:07.878 minutes. 2017-03-13 15:57:07.878 We have space for a couple more 2017-03-13 15:57:13.869 action items if people have 2017-03-13 15:57:14.879 action items they would like to 2017-03-13 15:57:15.867 investigate for themselves. 2017-03-13 15:57:15.867 You have been quiet over there 2017-03-13 15:57:21.902 you don't have to add anything, 2017-03-13 15:57:23.894 but you had a good entry point 2017-03-13 15:57:26.936 that was different for a lot -- 2017-03-13 15:57:29.935 from a lot of other people. 2017-03-13 15:57:30.938 >> One thing is when we talked 2017-03-13 15:57:37.98 about resource sharing platforms 2017-03-13 15:57:37.98 and such, I think a lot of 2017-03-13 15:57:40.977 people are trying to do the work 2017-03-13 15:57:41.979 on the Rhône -- on their own but 2017-03-13 15:57:45.982 no one is sharing resources. 2017-03-13 15:57:49.98 People are taking ownership that 2017-03-13 15:57:52.977 they are doing something novel 2017-03-13 15:57:52.978 and helping. 2017-03-13 15:57:54.978 It does not really move effort 2017-03-13 15:58:00.02 forward. 2017-03-13 15:58:00.02 >> Yes. 2017-03-13 15:58:05.121 The thing about doubling up 2017-03-13 15:58:06.076 efforts, as opposed to coming 2017-03-13 15:58:08.068 together to magnify and amplify 2017-03-13 15:58:11.073 the efforts, doing the same 2017-03-13 15:58:14.119 thing in a lot of different 2017-03-13 15:58:14.119 pockets. 2017-03-13 15:58:16.126 >> About how they can do it 2017-03-13 15:58:22.237 themselves. 2017-03-13 15:58:22.238 >> Grade. 2017-03-13 15:58:22.238 An important resource idea. 2017-03-13 15:58:23.228 >> One thing is I am all in 2017-03-13 15:58:32.231 favor of open sourcing these 2017-03-13 15:58:33.239 things. 2017-03-13 15:58:33.24 Anyone who asks, I usually give 2017-03-13 15:58:37.242 them in training materials so 2017-03-13 15:58:42.234 that you don't have to create 2017-03-13 15:58:44.275 the wheel again, it is so hard 2017-03-13 15:58:44.276 and the other thing is there are 2017-03-13 15:58:48.326 awesome online resources are 2017-03-13 15:58:48.327 totally awesome. 2017-03-13 15:58:51.333 I'm an attorney but I've never 2017-03-13 15:58:58.323 written a contract and I don't 2017-03-13 15:58:58.323 know what the expectations are. 2017-03-13 15:58:59.321 >> One thing we found successful 2017-03-13 15:59:11.521 is when we were entering into 2017-03-13 15:59:14.521 our collaborations with the deaf 2017-03-13 15:59:15.523 community, we were coming with 2017-03-13 15:59:19.57 -- as total beginners and 2017-03-13 15:59:20.618 novices and we did not know the 2017-03-13 15:59:20.619 language or the processes or 2017-03-13 15:59:23.648 what systems we needed to 2017-03-13 15:59:26.694 navigate. 2017-03-13 15:59:26.694 For us to stumble into the 2017-03-13 15:59:30.693 community and demand to be 2017-03-13 15:59:30.693 taught was not going to service 2017-03-13 15:59:34.701 or the community. 2017-03-13 15:59:34.701 You have to recognize we are 2017-03-13 15:59:38.697 behind the place we needed to be 2017-03-13 15:59:42.705 . 2017-03-13 15:59:42.706 One thing that was helpful to us 2017-03-13 15:59:45.722 was to find a collaborator who 2017-03-13 15:59:46.695 was a bridge themselves between 2017-03-13 15:59:48.711 the hearing and deaf 2017-03-13 15:59:50.741 communities. 2017-03-13 15:59:50.741 Somebody who also works in 2017-03-13 15:59:56.776 education, we collaborate 2017-03-13 16:00:00.872 several times. 2017-03-13 16:00:01.885 We could meet with Chris and say 2017-03-13 16:00:06.875 this is where we hope to be. 2017-03-13 16:00:08.879 What are the steps we need to be 2017-03-13 16:00:09.873 taking to get there and he could 2017-03-13 16:00:10.916 say don't do that, people will 2017-03-13 16:00:14.899 look at you and laugh and not 2017-03-13 16:00:15.906 want to work with you P or you 2017-03-13 16:00:17.942 have to come at it from this 2017-03-13 16:00:18.983 direction. 2017-03-13 16:00:18.984 In some ways, it was about 2017-03-13 16:00:21.028 identifying cultural dialogues 2017-03-13 16:00:25.098 that were spaces of entry for us 2017-03-13 16:00:25.099 as opposed to -- 2017-03-13 16:00:29.08 That was really helpful and it 2017-03-13 16:00:30.084 is something that sometimes we 2017-03-13 16:00:33.123 get very excited about wanting 2017-03-13 16:00:35.16 to collaborate and we have good 2017-03-13 16:00:37.151 intentions so we storm into a 2017-03-13 16:00:37.152 relationship that people on the 2017-03-13 16:00:41.199 other side of the relationship 2017-03-13 16:00:42.197 may be have some thoughts 2017-03-13 16:00:47.788 THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD OFFER 2017-03-13 16:00:47.788 TO YOU. 2017-03-13 16:00:47.789 >> ARE WE GETTING CLOSE TO TIME? 2017-03-13 16:00:52.768 DO WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? 2017-03-13 16:00:54.854 >> I SPENT PART OF THE WEEKEND 2017-03-13 16:00:58.902 WITH THE FUN AND HAUL AROUND -- 2017-03-13 16:01:02.906 HOW AROUND ON ARTS IN THE 2017-03-13 16:01:02.907 MILITARY. 2017-03-13 16:01:02.907 THAT EXACT THING CAME OUT, THE 2017-03-13 16:01:06.952 IDEA OF SOMEONE WHO HAS THE COPE 2017-03-13 16:01:08.95 -- CULTURAL CAPITAL WILLING TO 2017-03-13 16:01:09.976 BE AN INTERMEDIARY AND OPEN UP 2017-03-13 16:01:17.1 DOORS AND DIALOGUE. 2017-03-13 16:01:18.167 YOU ARE REITERATING MESSAGES 2017-03-13 16:01:19.111 THAT I HEARD ALL WEEKEND, THAT 2017-03-13 16:01:20.105 WAS NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 2017-03-13 16:01:20.105 BUT YES, WE ARE AT TIME. 2017-03-13 16:01:24.158 IF YOU ARE READY, WE WILL LET 2017-03-13 16:01:26.152 PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN COME IN. 2017-03-13 16:01:26.152 >> HOW DO WE REPORT BACK THESE 2017-03-13 16:01:29.199 ACTION ITEMS? 2017-03-13 16:01:29.2 >> YOU CAN DECIDE THAT, I WILL 2017-03-13 16:01:34.213 LET YOU DECIDE THAT. 2017-03-13 16:01:34.214 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:01:35.208 THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 16:01:38.205 YOU CAN LET PEOPLE IN. 2017-03-13 16:01:38.205 HOW DO WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO 2017-03-13 16:01:43.206 DO THAT? 2017-03-13 16:01:44.206 DOES SOMEBODY WANTS TO HOLD THE 2017-03-13 16:01:47.224 BANNER, WANT ME TO DO IT? 2017-03-13 16:01:48.239 I'M HAPPY EITHER WAY. 2017-03-13 16:01:50.223 OH GREAT, A LOOK AT YOUR ACTION 2017-03-13 16:01:56.224 ITEMS, YOU EVEN DREW THEM OUT! 2017-03-13 16:01:57.232 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:01:57.233 WE WILL JUST DO THAT, THEN. 2017-03-13 16:02:00.265 GREAT. 2017-03-13 16:02:04.306 DONE. 2017-03-13 16:02:04.306 THANKS EVERYBODY. 2017-03-13 16:02:06.308 I HOPE THIS WAS USEFUL TO YOU, 2017-03-13 16:02:11.308 IT WAS USEFUL TO ME. 2017-03-13 16:02:11.308 ALL RIGHT. 2017-03-13 16:02:13.31 I'M GOING TO RETURN THIS TO 2017-03-13 16:02:26.431 SOMEBODY. 2017-03-13 16:02:26.432 EXCUSE ME. 2017-03-13 16:02:29.423 >> THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 16:02:39.446 HOW IS EVERYTHING? 2017-03-13 16:02:40.444 >> HANG ON, YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW? 2017-03-13 16:03:04.558 PEOPLE ARE RETURNING TO THE ROOM 2017-03-13 16:03:09.597 . 2017-03-13 16:03:09.598 THEN WE WILL GO LIVESTREAM 2017-03-13 16:03:10.666 AGAIN, JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE. 2017-03-13 16:03:10.667 WE HAVE A NEW TECH GUY, COME 2017-03-13 16:03:13.607 OVER HERE. 2017-03-13 16:03:13.608 SO, WE ARE JUST KEEPING AND I 2017-03-13 16:03:19.603 OUT. 2017-03-13 16:03:19.604 IF WE ARE MAKING PEOPLE, HANDING 2017-03-13 16:03:19.604 THEM SOMETHING OR THE LAPEL'S 2017-03-13 16:03:27.651 HAVE TO GO HIGHER. 2017-03-13 16:03:27.652 THEY ARE NOT GETTING AUDIO. 2017-03-13 16:03:27.652 ONCE THIS RETURN IS DONE, YOU 2017-03-13 16:03:33.733 GUYS ARE DONE FOR THE DAY. 2017-03-13 16:03:34.725 IT WILL BE PRETTY EVIDENT. 2017-03-13 16:03:36.767 I'M GOING TO GO TO THE RESTROOM. 2017-03-13 16:03:37.765 TURN OFF THE MIC. 2017-03-13 16:03:37.765 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:04:03.987 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:05:30.227 >> IT IS GREAT TO BE IN 2017-03-13 16:05:33.229 CONVERSATION. 2017-03-13 16:05:33.23 >> I WILL SEND ANY MAIL TO INFO. 2017-03-13 16:05:40.273 -- AN EMAIL TO INFO. 2017-03-13 16:05:49.452 [CHATTER] 2017-03-13 16:05:54.46 >> HAVE A GOOD DAY. 2017-03-13 16:06:17.604 >> I ALSO DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS 2017-03-13 16:07:16.902 INTERESTING TO YOU TO DO, 2017-03-13 16:07:21.983 CHRISTINA TO DO SHE IS IN NEW 2017-03-13 16:07:29.007 YORK. 2017-03-13 16:07:29.008 SHE CAME FROM A DISTANCE. 2017-03-13 16:07:30.977 I MAILED 20 PEOPLE. 2017-03-13 16:07:42.021 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:07:46.102 >> I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET TO 2017-03-13 16:12:00.457 ALL TOGETHER, JUST A FEW MORE 2017-03-13 16:12:02.468 FOCUSED MOMENTS. 2017-03-13 16:12:02.468 THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO -- CAN 2017-03-13 16:12:09.522 YOU HEAR ME? 2017-03-13 16:12:10.531 INTERPRETER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? 2017-03-13 16:12:14.605 YES, THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 16:12:16.607 THERE IS A FEW PEOPLE, HOPEFULLY 2017-03-13 16:12:22.609 MAKE IT IN THE ROOM FROM OUTSIDE 2017-03-13 16:12:22.61 THE ROOM. 2017-03-13 16:12:22.61 THOSE MY THEATER VOICE. 2017-03-13 16:12:26.607 SO WE ENDED UP HAVING THREE 2017-03-13 16:12:31.648 GROUPS TOTAL. 2017-03-13 16:12:31.649 TWO OF THE GROUPS COMBINED. 2017-03-13 16:12:36.662 BASICALLY, WE HAVE UNTIL 4:30, 2017-03-13 16:12:43.654 WHEN WE WILL LET YOU GO 2017-03-13 16:12:44.706 DOWNSTAIRS TO THE SECOND FLOOR 2017-03-13 16:12:44.706 AND SOCIALIZE. 2017-03-13 16:12:47.657 WE HAVE FOOD AND ALCOHOL AND 2017-03-13 16:12:49.659 NON-ALCOHOLIC STUFF TOO. 2017-03-13 16:12:51.662 ALL WE WANT TO DO IS HEAR THE 2017-03-13 16:12:54.652 REPORTS. 2017-03-13 16:12:58.751 ALSO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE 2017-03-13 16:13:00.748 ARE GOING TO COMPILE ALL OF THIS 2017-03-13 16:13:00.748 INFORMATION, ALL OF THE NOTES, 2017-03-13 16:13:03.764 AUDIO RECORDINGS, ALL OF THE 2017-03-13 16:13:07.772 GRAPHIC FACILITATION. 2017-03-13 16:13:10.774 IT MAY TAKE US TIME TO GET IT 2017-03-13 16:13:12.775 ALL TOGETHER, BUT IF ANY OF YOU 2017-03-13 16:13:12.776 WANT THESE PIECES, THIS IS FOR 2017-03-13 16:13:15.777 THE COMMUNITY. 2017-03-13 16:13:15.778 PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO REACH 2017-03-13 16:13:17.817 OUT TO US. 2017-03-13 16:13:21.818 WE ARE THE BU ARTS INITIATIVE, 2017-03-13 16:13:23.859 YOU CAN EMAIL ANY OF US THERE, 2017-03-13 16:13:25.859 WE ARE EASY TO FIND ON THE 2017-03-13 16:13:25.86 WEBSITE. 2017-03-13 16:13:25.86 SO LET'S START WITH ALANA'S 2017-03-13 16:13:29.859 GROUP. 2017-03-13 16:13:29.86 IS THAT A RIGHT? 2017-03-13 16:13:30.857 -- ALLRIGHT? 2017-03-13 16:13:35.903 AGAIN, IF YOU DO HAVE -- WE WILL 2017-03-13 16:13:44.025 DO THIS PRIMARILY AS A 2017-03-13 16:13:45.064 RECORDING, IF YOU HAVE A BURNING 2017-03-13 16:13:48.077 QUESTION THAT IS TOTALLY FINE, 2017-03-13 16:13:49.065 BUT WE NEED TO RUN TO YOU WITH A 2017-03-13 16:13:51.07 MICROPHONE, PLEASE REMEMBER 2017-03-13 16:13:51.07 THAT. 2017-03-13 16:13:51.071 IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, GO AHEAD 2017-03-13 16:13:56.079 AND MAKE ITS KNOWN, BUT WE WILL 2017-03-13 16:13:57.072 HAVE TO BRING YOU A MICROPHONE. 2017-03-13 16:13:57.073 >> THANKS. 2017-03-13 16:14:01.071 HI, I AM ALANA. 2017-03-13 16:14:01.072 I AM ON FACULTY HERE AT THE YOU 2017-03-13 16:14:06.229 IN THE SCHOOL OF THEATER, I AM 2017-03-13 16:14:06.229 ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF NEW WORK AT 2017-03-13 16:14:09.274 COMPANY ONE THEATER COMPANY, 2017-03-13 16:14:10.199 COMPANY ONE THEATER COMPANY. 2017-03-13 16:14:10.199 WE HAD A SMALL BUT VERY FERTILE 2017-03-13 16:14:14.254 CONVERSATION ABOUT ARTISTIC 2017-03-13 16:14:17.197 DECISION MAKING. 2017-03-13 16:14:17.198 WE WORK WITH COMPANIES WHO -- 2017-03-13 16:14:23.248 WHERE COMPANIES WHO 2017-03-13 16:14:28.259 TRADITIONALLY DO NOT WORK WITH 2017-03-13 16:14:28.259 PERFORMERS WITH DISABILITIES CAN 2017-03-13 16:14:28.259 COME TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE. 2017-03-13 16:14:29.259 WE DO NOT HAVE FOR ACTION ITEMS, 2017-03-13 16:14:36.279 BUT WE HAD TO REALLY DEEP ONES 2017-03-13 16:14:36.28 AT AN OFFSHOOT. 2017-03-13 16:14:40.276 ONE THING THAT CAME UP IS A 2017-03-13 16:14:42.284 DESIRE FOR COMPANIES THAT HAVE 2017-03-13 16:14:46.315 THE WILLINGNESS AND INTEREST IN 2017-03-13 16:14:50.317 WORKING WITH PERFORMANCE WITH 2017-03-13 16:14:50.317 DISABILITIES TO GET INTO OUR 2017-03-13 16:14:51.319 RESEARCH SHARE -- RESOURCE 2017-03-13 16:14:55.399 SHARING MODE WITH COMPANIES. 2017-03-13 16:14:55.4 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT 2017-03-13 16:14:59.398 MEAN WOULD BE SHARING CAPTIONING 2017-03-13 16:15:01.401 TECHNOLOGIES OR SHARING TRAINING 2017-03-13 16:15:03.576 MODULES. 2017-03-13 16:15:03.577 FOR EXAMPLE, WORKING WITH AUTISM 2017-03-13 16:15:08.524 FRIENDLY PERFORMANCES. 2017-03-13 16:15:08.524 THERE WAS AN OFFER OF A TRAINING 2017-03-13 16:15:09.525 MODULE THAT OPEN DOOR THEATER 2017-03-13 16:15:13.567 USES. 2017-03-13 16:15:13.568 THINKING ABOUT A WAY TO SET UP A 2017-03-13 16:15:13.568 FORMALIZED PLATFORM, OR INSTEAD 2017-03-13 16:15:16.623 OF DUPLICATING WORK, UTILIZING 2017-03-13 16:15:22.609 PRE-EXISTING SHARING PLATFORMS. 2017-03-13 16:15:22.61 THERE ARE A COUPLE FACEBOOK 2017-03-13 16:15:23.673 GROUPS THAT SHARE TECHNOLOGY, 2017-03-13 16:15:23.674 THEATER TECH. 2017-03-13 16:15:25.609 THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE THOUGHT 2017-03-13 16:15:28.709 ABOUT DOING THAT. 2017-03-13 16:15:28.709 IMPORTANTLY, THAT PLATFORM 2017-03-13 16:15:31.746 SHOULD HAVE NO PROMOTION, BUT 2017-03-13 16:15:35.757 RATHER, JUST ABOUT IDENTIFYING 2017-03-13 16:15:36.764 RESOURCES AND SHARING THEM. 2017-03-13 16:15:36.764 THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT 2017-03-13 16:15:38.761 WAS SPECIFIC TO DEATH ACT -- 2017-03-13 16:15:44.757 DEAF ACT DOORS, WE WERE TALKING 2017-03-13 16:15:47.782 ABOUT HOW DEATH ACT DOORS ARE 2017-03-13 16:15:47.783 ONLY SEEN IF -- IF THEY ARE SEEN 2017-03-13 16:15:51.778 AT ALL, IN BOSTON THEATER, THEY 2017-03-13 16:15:52.779 ARE ONLY SEEN FOR ROLES THAT ARE 2017-03-13 16:15:52.78 DEATH. 2017-03-13 16:15:53.775 -- DEAF. 2017-03-13 16:15:56.816 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WIFE 2017-03-13 16:15:58.819 EITHER -- THEATER COMPANIES HAVE 2017-03-13 16:16:01.877 A PERCEPTION AGAINST SEEING 2017-03-13 16:16:02.901 DEAF ACTORS FOR HEARING ROLES. 2017-03-13 16:16:06.899 WE TALKED ABOUT THE OBSTACLES A 2017-03-13 16:16:09.902 COMPANY MIGHT AND COUNTER. 2017-03-13 16:16:09.902 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OFF 2017-03-13 16:16:12.902 OF THAT WAS TRAINING, NOT JUST 2017-03-13 16:16:16.973 FOR PERFORMERS, THAT COMPANIES 2017-03-13 16:16:18.947 IN TERMS OF HOW TO WORK WITH 2017-03-13 16:16:23.999 PERFORMERS WITH DISABILITIES IN 2017-03-13 16:16:23.999 GENERAL, AND THE DEAF 2017-03-13 16:16:30.001 COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY. 2017-03-13 16:16:30.002 WE TALKED ABOUT ANOTHER ACTION 2017-03-13 16:16:30.003 ITEM THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. 2017-03-13 16:16:33.002 THINKING ABOUT, IS THERE SPACE 2017-03-13 16:16:33.002 AT THE STAGE SOURCE CONFERENCE 2017-03-13 16:16:36.027 -- HI JULIE, TO TALK ABOUT 2017-03-13 16:16:40.124 RETHINKING HOW ACTING TRAINING 2017-03-13 16:16:42.16 WORKS IN THE FRENCH COMMUNITY IN 2017-03-13 16:16:42.16 BOSTON. 2017-03-13 16:16:45.217 IF THE COMPANY WANTS PDA 2017-03-13 16:16:48.265 TRAINING CLASSES OR OTHER 2017-03-13 16:16:48.265 TRAINING CLASSES FOR ACTORS, CAN 2017-03-13 16:16:51.255 THEY BE MORE ACCESSIBLE, WHAT 2017-03-13 16:16:52.261 ARE THE OBSTACLES THAT KEEP US 2017-03-13 16:16:52.261 FROM DOING THAT. 2017-03-13 16:16:52.262 THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT -- 2017-03-13 16:16:57.278 SORRY CHRIS, YOU WILL BE ANOTHER 2017-03-13 16:16:57.278 EXAMPLE. 2017-03-13 16:16:57.279 WE TALKED ABOUT FOR COMPANIES 2017-03-13 16:17:00.289 THAT WISH TO DO MORE WORK IN 2017-03-13 16:17:04.29 COMMUNITIES FOR THEY DO NOT HAVE 2017-03-13 16:17:05.326 MUCH FAMILIARITY, STORMING INTO 2017-03-13 16:17:05.327 THOSE COMMUNITIES AND DECLARING 2017-03-13 16:17:06.373 YOUR WILLINGNESS WILL GOT -- NOT 2017-03-13 16:17:10.362 GET YOU VERY FAR. 2017-03-13 16:17:12.359 INSTEAD, FINDING AND WORKING 2017-03-13 16:17:12.36 WITH BRIDGE BUILDERS WHO HAVE 2017-03-13 16:17:14.379 CULTURAL CAPITAL, WHO WERE ALSO 2017-03-13 16:17:18.401 -- WHO POSITION THEMSELVES AS 2017-03-13 16:17:19.413 EDUCATORS. 2017-03-13 16:17:19.414 NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO TEACH YOU 2017-03-13 16:17:21.452 WHEN THAT IS NOT THEIR JOB, BUT 2017-03-13 16:17:23.498 RATHER, WORKING WITH FOLKS WHO 2017-03-13 16:17:27.501 IDENTIFY AS EDUCATORS, AND TO 2017-03-13 16:17:28.508 HAVE THE CULTURAL CAPITAL TO 2017-03-13 16:17:28.509 CONNECT YOU TO THE COMMUNITIES 2017-03-13 16:17:30.498 YOU ARE INTERESTED IN. 2017-03-13 16:17:33.499 IF YOU'RE A COMPANY THAT DOES 2017-03-13 16:17:33.499 NOT USUALLY WORK WITH ACTORS 2017-03-13 16:17:38.508 WITH DISABILITIES. 2017-03-13 16:17:38.508 THOSE ARE ACTION ITEMS WE TOOK 2017-03-13 16:17:40.505 AWAY. 2017-03-13 16:17:40.506 HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR 2017-03-13 16:17:40.506 PASS THE MIC TO THE NEXT GROUP. 2017-03-13 16:17:43.507 HMM? 2017-03-13 16:17:45.498 I DO WANT TO HAND IT TO YOU. 2017-03-13 16:17:48.528 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 16:17:51.525 OH SHOOT, OH WELL. 2017-03-13 16:17:58.632 SORRY. 2017-03-13 16:18:03.615 >> I AM CORI, WE WERE TALKING 2017-03-13 16:18:12.748 ABOUT TRAINING. 2017-03-13 16:18:13.75 THAT WAS A VERY WIDE RANGING 2017-03-13 16:18:17.751 DISCUSSION. 2017-03-13 16:18:17.751 IT WAS HARD TO BRING IT DOWN TO 2017-03-13 16:18:25.779 JUST COUPLE POINTS. 2017-03-13 16:18:25.779 SOME THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WERE 2017-03-13 16:18:30.859 TO OFFER TRAINING, LIKE TODAY'S 2017-03-13 16:18:36.946 SYMPOSIUM ON A LARGER SCALE THAT 2017-03-13 16:18:37.973 BRINGS TOGETHER A LARGER 2017-03-13 16:18:37.973 COMMUNITY. 2017-03-13 16:18:37.974 WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS 2017-03-13 16:18:40.006 ROOM WHO ARE ALREADY BE 2017-03-13 16:18:46.997 CONVERTED -- I THINK THERE WAS 2017-03-13 16:18:48.998 MENTION OF THIS EARLIER TODAY. 2017-03-13 16:18:49.997 HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE FROM OTHER 2017-03-13 16:18:51.998 PLACES IN ON THIS CONVERSATION 2017-03-13 16:18:54.009 AND EXPAND IT AND SCALE IT UP. 2017-03-13 16:18:54.997 ANOTHER SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE 2017-03-13 16:18:59.069 MORE FUNDING FOR STAFF AND 2017-03-13 16:19:01.086 TRAINING IN PEDAGOGY AND 2017-03-13 16:19:06.072 DISABILITIES SERVICES. 2017-03-13 16:19:06.073 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN BU, 2017-03-13 16:19:09.077 I THINK THIS CAN TRANSLATE TO 2017-03-13 16:19:10.124 OTHER PLACES AS WELL, TO MAKE 2017-03-13 16:19:10.124 SURE THAT NOT JUST THE STAFF OF 2017-03-13 16:19:14.11 THE DISABILITIES SERVICES 2017-03-13 16:19:16.133 DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO OTHER 2017-03-13 16:19:20.109 MEMBERS OF THE FACULTY AND STAFF 2017-03-13 16:19:20.11 GETTING TRAINING ABOUT HOW TO 2017-03-13 16:19:23.171 INTERACT WITH PEOPLE WITH 2017-03-13 16:19:23.171 DISABILITIES. 2017-03-13 16:19:23.171 SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING 2017-03-13 16:19:27.191 SIMILAR TO THIS. 2017-03-13 16:19:30.19 THANK YOU LUMMIS SAID SOMETHING 2017-03-13 16:19:30.19 SIMILAR ABOUT OFFERING TRAINING 2017-03-13 16:19:36.251 FOR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, 2017-03-13 16:19:36.252 POSSIBLY USING ONLINE PLATFORMS 2017-03-13 16:19:37.284 OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER, AND I 2017-03-13 16:19:40.248 HAVE A FEELING EVERYBODY HAS 2017-03-13 16:19:44.276 THAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR MIND 2017-03-13 16:19:45.279 SOMEWHERE. 2017-03-13 16:19:45.279 THE LAST THING WE HAD WAS BASIC 2017-03-13 16:19:49.289 REQUIREMENT, THAT A CULTURAL 2017-03-13 16:19:49.289 INSTITUTIONS -- WE MIGHT WANT TO 2017-03-13 16:19:53.277 FIGURE OUT SOME KIND OF BASIC 2017-03-13 16:19:55.28 REQUIREMENT ON DISABILITY SINCE 2017-03-13 16:19:55.281 ATTILA -- SENSITIVITY FOR ALL 2017-03-13 16:19:58.302 EMPLOYEES, LIKE THERE IS -- IS 2017-03-13 16:20:01.323 THERE SOME SORT OF CERTIFICATION 2017-03-13 16:20:01.324 PROGRAM OR PROJECT. 2017-03-13 16:20:01.325 THAT IS SUCH A TEENSY LITTLE 2017-03-13 16:20:05.32 PIECE OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, 2017-03-13 16:20:05.321 THERE YOU GO. 2017-03-13 16:20:05.321 [APPLAUSE] 2017-03-13 16:20:06.361 >> AS LEADERS AND ACTIVISTS, WE 2017-03-13 16:20:23.408 MERGED. 2017-03-13 16:20:24.451 >> WE DID MERGE. 2017-03-13 16:20:36.494 WE FOUND THE SLIGHT CURTAIN 2017-03-13 16:20:41.498 BETWEEN THE TWO OF US IS NOT 2017-03-13 16:20:43.536 GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE 2017-03-13 16:20:44.536 SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS, SO WE 2017-03-13 16:20:44.537 THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST BECOME ONE 2017-03-13 16:20:46.536 CONVERSATION. 2017-03-13 16:20:46.536 NEITHER DON OR I KEPT NOTES, SO 2017-03-13 16:20:53.616 THANK YOU FOR OUR VISUAL 2017-03-13 16:20:53.616 DISPLAY. 2017-03-13 16:20:53.617 WE TALKED ABOUT LEADERSHIP AND 2017-03-13 16:20:57.618 ACTIVISM. 2017-03-13 16:20:57.618 WE DO -- I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO 2017-03-13 16:21:02.684 MERGE EASILY AND QUICKLY, WE 2017-03-13 16:21:02.685 BELIEVE THAT TO BE A LEADER IN 2017-03-13 16:21:07.697 THIS CURRENT MOVEMENT IS 2017-03-13 16:21:08.746 ACTIVISM. 2017-03-13 16:21:08.746 WE DID TALK ABOUT HOW 20 YEARS 2017-03-13 16:21:14.751 HAVE SEEN SOME CHANGES, BUT 2017-03-13 16:21:17.783 MAYBE THIS IS THE NEXUS OR 2017-03-13 16:21:17.783 TIPPING POINT THAT WILL -- WE 2017-03-13 16:21:20.819 WILL REALLY BE ABLE TO BE 2017-03-13 16:21:21.836 SUBSTATE -- SUSTAINABLE FOR 2017-03-13 16:21:23.82 SPEEDING UP SOME OF OUR IDEAS. 2017-03-13 16:21:25.821 WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT TRAINING, 2017-03-13 16:21:34.872 AND WHAT IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT 2017-03-13 16:21:35.863 IS THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE A 2017-03-13 16:21:36.867 ONE-OFF. 2017-03-13 16:21:36.868 IT SHOULD CONTINUE. 2017-03-13 16:21:39.937 THE PROCESS IS NOT DONE BECAUSE 2017-03-13 16:21:42.921 YOU HAVE TAKEN A CLASS. 2017-03-13 16:21:46.903 IT REQUIRES REFRESHMENTS AND 2017-03-13 16:21:46.904 THERE IS NEW PEOPLE WHO MAY 2017-03-13 16:21:48.919 BECOME A PART OF THIS MOVEMENT. 2017-03-13 16:21:51.911 THERE IS A NIMBLENESS THAT NEEDS 2017-03-13 16:21:53.905 TO BE A PART OF THE TRAINING, SO 2017-03-13 16:22:01.06 IT REALLY EMBRACES ALL PEOPLES 2017-03-13 16:22:01.06 WHO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ON THE 2017-03-13 16:22:01.061 MARGINS TREAT OUR ABILITY TO 2017-03-13 16:22:05.076 WORK AND EMBRACE THEM. 2017-03-13 16:22:05.077 >> THEIR DISABILITIES ARE IN THE 2017-03-13 16:22:30.154 COGNITIVE AND DEVELOPMENTAL 2017-03-13 16:22:31.158 SPECTRUM. 2017-03-13 16:22:31.159 THAT IS A POPULATION THAT IS 2017-03-13 16:22:34.214 FREQUENTLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT IN 2017-03-13 16:22:34.214 THIS SPECTRUM OF DISABILITY. 2017-03-13 16:22:34.215 WE TALKED -- I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT 2017-03-13 16:22:39.255 SOME OF THE ONES THAT WERE 2017-03-13 16:22:41.329 REALLY MEANINGFUL FOR ME. 2017-03-13 16:22:41.33 WE TALKED ABOUT AND MANAGE 2017-03-13 16:22:44.299 CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE 2017-03-13 16:22:44.3 LEADERSHIP AND ACTIVISM, ABOUT 2017-03-13 16:22:46.328 THE POWER OF STORYTELLING. 2017-03-13 16:22:46.328 ALSO, BEING RESOURCEFUL. 2017-03-13 16:22:51.338 THOSE RESONATED FOR ME. 2017-03-13 16:22:56.376 THE ONE THAT WAS REALLY STRONG 2017-03-13 16:22:58.37 WAS BEING A DELIBERATE MESSER 2017-03-13 16:23:01.407 UPPER. 2017-03-13 16:23:01.407 DELIBERATE LEAD CHALLENGING 2017-03-13 16:23:09.499 AUDIENCE, CHALLENGING ARTISTS, 2017-03-13 16:23:10.496 TO REDEFINE IN THE MESS YOU UP. 2017-03-13 16:23:15.512 WELL SAID, I WILL MISS YOU UP ON 2017-03-13 16:23:15.512 PURPOSE IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD, 2017-03-13 16:23:20.545 TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO FORWARD 2017-03-13 16:23:21.581 FROM AND TO NOT BE AFRAID TO 2017-03-13 16:23:22.58 MESS UP. 2017-03-13 16:23:22.581 THEN ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WAS MESSY 2017-03-13 16:23:25.58 ABOUT IT, HOW TO CLEAN IT UP, IF 2017-03-13 16:23:28.667 TO CLEAN IT UP AT ALL. 2017-03-13 16:23:28.667 HAHAHA. 2017-03-13 16:23:30.742 ANYTHING ELSE? 2017-03-13 16:23:32.7 >> I THINK THE MESS UP TENDS TO 2017-03-13 16:23:40.758 RISK, OR SOMETIMES THOSE OF US 2017-03-13 16:23:41.721 IN AN ADMINISTRATION ARE ADVERSE 2017-03-13 16:23:46.777 TO RISK, WE ARE CONSTANTLY AWARE 2017-03-13 16:23:46.778 OF FINANCIAL, BOTTOM LINE, NOT 2017-03-13 16:23:53.797 WANTING TO OFFEND PEOPLE. 2017-03-13 16:23:54.827 I THINK MESS UP TIES TO RISK. 2017-03-13 16:23:54.828 THE VERY NATURE OF ART, MAKING 2017-03-13 16:23:59.836 AND BEING INNOVATIVE, MEANS YOU 2017-03-13 16:24:02.823 NEED TO TAKE THOSE RISKS AND AS 2017-03-13 16:24:04.844 KEITH WAS SAYING EARLIER IN THE 2017-03-13 16:24:04.844 DAY, IT IS NOT A MIRACLE, WE 2017-03-13 16:24:12.952 NEED TO PUSH OURSELVES FOR 2017-03-13 16:24:14.999 EXCELLENCE AND THE DISCIPLINE 2017-03-13 16:24:14.999 BEHIND THAT. 2017-03-13 16:24:15 >> FUNDING, WHICH WE WILL JUST 2017-03-13 16:24:23.012 TOP RIGHT OVER. 2017-03-13 16:24:23.013 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:24:24.023 >> CHARLIE MADE A REALLY GOOD 2017-03-13 16:24:30.006 POINT, CANNOT REALLY BEAT 2017-03-13 16:24:34.048 OURSELVES UP. 2017-03-13 16:24:35.059 20 YEARS AGO, THERE ARE ASPECTS 2017-03-13 16:24:37.121 OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY AND 2017-03-13 16:24:37.122 HAPPENING THIS WEEK, AND THE 2017-03-13 16:24:39.181 PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM 20 YEARS AGO 2017-03-13 16:24:42.238 MIGHT NOT HAVE HAPPENED. 2017-03-13 16:24:42.239 TO NOT BE SO SELF-DEPRECATING. 2017-03-13 16:24:47.209 AS TO SAY, WE HAVE NOT TAKEN 2017-03-13 16:24:50.2 STEPS, BECAUSE WE HAVE. 2017-03-13 16:24:52.198 I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HERE 20 2017-03-13 16:24:54.214 YEARS AGO. 2017-03-13 16:24:54.214 IT IS NOT BECAUSE I'M 29. 2017-03-13 16:24:55.257 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:24:56.254 >> THAT TIES IN NICELY TO THIS 2017-03-13 16:25:04.301 POINT. 2017-03-13 16:25:04.301 HELPING PEOPLE -- YOUNGER PEOPLE 2017-03-13 16:25:04.301 FIND THEIR VOICE. 2017-03-13 16:25:04.302 20 YEARS AGO, THINGS WERE 2017-03-13 16:25:06.326 DIFFERENT. 2017-03-13 16:25:08.331 THE ADA HAS PASSED LONG AGO. 2017-03-13 16:25:13.33 CAN WE WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE 2017-03-13 16:25:15.327 BECOMING ADMINISTRATORS, 2017-03-13 16:25:19.337 ARTISTS, PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE 2017-03-13 16:25:21.368 SUPPORT OF THE ARTS, CAN WE 2017-03-13 16:25:25.458 INFILTRATE ALL ASPECTS OF THE 2017-03-13 16:25:25.458 PROGRAM AND THINK ABOUT ACCESS 2017-03-13 16:25:29.448 AND INCLUSION BEYOND 2017-03-13 16:25:32.458 ARCHITECTURAL REGULATIONS. 2017-03-13 16:25:32.458 TO REALLY AND THE -- INFILTRATE 2017-03-13 16:25:34.478 EVERYTHING. 2017-03-13 16:25:38.545 I THINK THIS IS KEY, AND TO TIES 2017-03-13 16:25:40.631 TO SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED 2017-03-13 16:25:41.633 EARLY ON FROM JODI STEINER. 2017-03-13 16:25:41.633 WITH US, NOT FOR US. 2017-03-13 16:25:46.757 I SEE A COUPLE PEOPLE WITH 2017-03-13 16:25:46.757 DISABILITIES FOR INPUT. 2017-03-13 16:25:48.747 YOUR BOARDS, STAFF, ACTORS, 2017-03-13 16:25:52.757 PERFORMERS, CREW PEOPLE. 2017-03-13 16:25:54.745 AUDIENCE, IT IS PART OF 2017-03-13 16:26:01.876 DEVELOPING A TRUE SENSE OF 2017-03-13 16:26:02.994 LONGING. 2017-03-13 16:26:02.994 THINK THAT IS ALWAYS GOT. 2017-03-13 16:26:07.916 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:26:07.916 >> THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 16:26:11.957 AGAIN, A QUICK THANK YOU TO OUR 2017-03-13 16:26:17.047 FACILITATORS. 2017-03-13 16:26:19.081 WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR 2017-03-13 16:26:19.082 TIME. 2017-03-13 16:26:19.082 TO HOWLROUND AND THE 2017-03-13 16:26:24.049 INTERPRETERS AND TO STAFF 2017-03-13 16:26:28.084 COLLEAGUES WHO WENT ABOVE AND 2017-03-13 16:26:32.174 BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THIS STUFF 2017-03-13 16:26:32.175 WORKS TODAY. 2017-03-13 16:26:32.176 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT 2017-03-13 16:26:37.184 HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO US. 2017-03-13 16:26:38.157 WE HAVE THE STOCK INVITATION, WE 2017-03-13 16:26:44.162 WILL BE FIGURING OUT WAYS TO 2017-03-13 16:26:45.257 DISSEMINATE AND PUT IT UP AND 2017-03-13 16:26:45.257 SPREAD IT AROUND HOPEFULLY WE 2017-03-13 16:26:49.257 CAN ALL KEEP CONTINUING THIS 2017-03-13 16:26:49.258 CONVERSATION OVER DRINKS AND 2017-03-13 16:26:51.319 SNACKS. 2017-03-13 16:26:51.319 DOWN ON THE SECOND FLOOR. 2017-03-13 16:26:53.324 THANK YOU AGAIN. 2017-03-13 16:26:56.41 YES. 2017-03-13 16:26:56.41 >> ARE GOING TO GET 2017-03-13 16:27:02.409 DOCUMENTATION OF THOSE? 2017-03-13 16:27:03.415 A SHOUT OUT TO WHOEVER DID 2017-03-13 16:27:07.595 THESE, I LOVE THEM, I LOVE THEM. 2017-03-13 16:27:07.595 [LAUGHTER] 2017-03-13 16:27:09.422 >> YES, THAT IS CARHART 2017-03-13 16:27:15.503 CREATIVE. 2017-03-13 16:27:15.504 YOU CAN FIND THEM ON THE WEB. 2017-03-13 16:27:16.553 YES, WE ARE GETTING VERY SOLID 2017-03-13 16:27:21.571 CLEAR VISUALS, THESE WILL LIVE 2017-03-13 16:27:23.55 WITH US. 2017-03-13 16:27:23.551 SO YES, THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE 2017-03-13 16:27:26.579 AS WELL. 2017-03-13 16:27:26.579 YEAH. 2017-03-13 16:27:26.58 >> I JUST HEARD A RUMOR THAT 2017-03-13 16:27:33.62 PERHAPS TOMORROW'S PANEL WILL BE 2017-03-13 16:27:35.725 ON -- ONLINE. 2017-03-13 16:27:39.71 IF IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET 2017-03-13 16:27:39.711 ON IT. 2017-03-13 16:27:39.711 >> THE RESIDENCY IS HAPPENING 2017-03-13 16:27:45.739 THIS WEEK. 2017-03-13 16:27:45.739 THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT 2017-03-13 16:27:48.799 WERE LABELED AS CLASSES THAT 2017-03-13 16:27:48.799 WERE NOT PUT UP TO THE PUBLIC. 2017-03-13 16:27:52.805 NOW WE ARE POTENTIALLY FIGURING 2017-03-13 16:27:52.806 THEM OUT -- OUTCOME OF THAT ONE 2017-03-13 16:27:56.8 OF THE PANEL DISCUSSIONS MIGHT 2017-03-13 16:27:57.845 BE ONLINE. 2017-03-13 16:27:57.846 WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE 2017-03-13 16:27:57.846 OFFICIAL CALL. 2017-03-13 16:28:01.889 IT WILL HAPPEN. 2017-03-13 16:28:01.889 WE ALL KNOW THAT. 2017-03-13 16:28:01.89 YES. 2017-03-13 16:28:03.913 BU.EDU/ARTS, A RTS, OUR MAIN 2017-03-13 16:28:11.002 WEBPAGE HAS ACCESS RIGHT ON THE 2017-03-13 16:28:12.997 FRONT. 2017-03-13 16:28:12.998 CLICK -- CLICK THAT, SARAH OR I 2017-03-13 16:28:19.046 WILL UPDATE WITH ALL OF THE 2017-03-13 16:28:19.046 RELEVANT INFORMATION AND ANY 2017-03-13 16:28:19.047 LINKS YOU NEED. 2017-03-13 16:28:19.047 THANK YOU. 2017-03-13 16:28:24.092 ENJOY THE BEVERAGES. 2017-03-13 16:28:24.092 [LAUGHTER]