2016-08-06 09:19:36.592 [PLEASE STAND BY] 2016-08-06 09:19:36.608 [PLEASE STAND BY] 2016-08-06 09:19:42.591 [PLEASE STAND 2016-08-06 09:19:42.607 [PLEASE STAND 2016-08-06 09:19:42.594 BY] 2016-08-06 09:19:42.611 BY] 2016-08-06 09:45:11.612 WHAT A LOT OF YOU ARE WATCHING 2016-08-06 09:45:11.597 WHAT A LOT OF YOU ARE WATCHING 2016-08-06 09:45:11.617 ONLINE. 2016-08-06 09:45:11.603 ONLINE. 2016-08-06 09:45:16.642 GIVE THEM AROUND APPLAUSE. 2016-08-06 09:45:16.658 GIVE THEM AROUND APPLAUSE. 2016-08-06 09:45:22.678 GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. 2016-08-06 09:45:22.663 GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. 2016-08-06 09:45:25.678 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2016-08-06 09:45:25.663 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2016-08-06 09:45:30.759 I WANTED TO 2016-08-06 09:45:30.744 I WANTED TO 2016-08-06 09:45:32.754 KNOW [INDISCERNIBLE] 2016-08-06 09:45:32.739 KNOW [INDISCERNIBLE] 2016-08-06 09:45:45.966 WHICH ONE IS STRONGER 2016-08-06 09:45:45.951 WHICH ONE IS STRONGER 2016-08-06 09:45:45.968 -- 2016-08-06 09:45:45.953 -- 2016-08-06 09:45:59.106 OW. 2016-08-06 09:45:59.091 OW. 2016-08-06 09:46:01.106 THE NUB. 2016-08-06 09:46:01.091 THE NUB. 2016-08-06 09:46:05.172 THE NUB HAS BEEN A PART OF MY 2016-08-06 09:46:05.157 THE NUB HAS BEEN A PART OF MY 2016-08-06 09:46:08.176 LIFE FOR AS LONG AS I REMEMBER. 2016-08-06 09:46:08.161 LIFE FOR AS LONG AS I REMEMBER. 2016-08-06 09:46:14.216 SO HOW DID THIS ONE-HANDED 2016-08-06 09:46:14.201 SO HOW DID THIS ONE-HANDED 2016-08-06 09:46:18.218 GUY 2016-08-06 09:46:18.203 GUY 2016-08-06 09:46:18.208 BECOME AN ACTOR IN NEW YORK 2016-08-06 09:46:18.224 BECOME AN ACTOR IN NEW YORK 2016-08-06 09:46:18.227 CITY? 2016-08-06 09:46:18.212 CITY? 2016-08-06 09:46:24.358 1974, IT'S LABOR DAY AND MY MOM 2016-08-06 09:46:24.343 1974, IT'S LABOR DAY AND MY MOM 2016-08-06 09:46:24.362 IS IN LABOR. 2016-08-06 09:46:24.348 IS IN LABOR. 2016-08-06 09:46:35.467 AND MY DAD WAS ON HIS WAY 2016-08-06 09:46:35.452 AND MY DAD WAS ON HIS WAY 2016-08-06 09:46:35.469 -- 2016-08-06 09:46:35.454 -- 2016-08-06 09:46:38.51 EXCUSE ME COME MY WIFE WAS 2016-08-06 09:46:38.495 EXCUSE ME COME MY WIFE WAS 2016-08-06 09:46:38.514 SITTING HERE. 2016-08-06 09:46:38.499 SITTING HERE. 2016-08-06 09:46:43.56 HER NAME IS CAROL. 2016-08-06 09:46:43.545 HER NAME IS CAROL. 2016-08-06 09:46:43.564 CATHERINE CAROL. 2016-08-06 09:46:43.55 CATHERINE CAROL. 2016-08-06 09:46:50.61 I NEED TO GET IN THERE. 2016-08-06 09:46:50.596 I NEED TO GET IN THERE. 2016-08-06 09:46:54.647 SO WHAT DO I DO? 2016-08-06 09:46:54.632 SO WHAT DO I DO? 2016-08-06 09:46:59.725 DO I JUST WAIT HERE WITH THE 2016-08-06 09:46:59.71 DO I JUST WAIT HERE WITH THE 2016-08-06 09:47:03.854 CRAY FAMILY? 2016-08-06 09:47:03.839 CRAY FAMILY? 2016-08-06 09:47:13.01 CAROL, GEORGE, PAUL, LAMAR, 2016-08-06 09:47:12.995 CAROL, GEORGE, PAUL, LAMAR, 2016-08-06 09:47:17.107 RUTH, ROB, JOE, WHAT ARE YOU 2016-08-06 09:47:17.092 RUTH, ROB, JOE, WHAT ARE YOU 2016-08-06 09:47:19.137 DOING BY THE VENDING MACHINE? 2016-08-06 09:47:19.123 DOING BY THE VENDING MACHINE? 2016-08-06 09:47:22.222 THIS IS EXCITING. 2016-08-06 09:47:22.207 THIS IS EXCITING. 2016-08-06 09:47:28.306 MY SON IS GOING TO PLAY 2016-08-06 09:47:28.291 MY SON IS GOING TO PLAY 2016-08-06 09:47:28.31 BASEBALL. 2016-08-06 09:47:28.295 BASEBALL. 2016-08-06 09:47:29.359 HE'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT GREAT 2016-08-06 09:47:29.344 HE'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT GREAT 2016-08-06 09:47:34.385 RIGHT-HANDED PICTURE 2016-08-06 09:47:34.37 RIGHT-HANDED PICTURE 2016-08-06 09:47:34.388 -- HANDED 2016-08-06 09:47:34.373 -- HANDED 2016-08-06 09:47:34.392 PITCHER. 2016-08-06 09:47:34.377 PITCHER. 2016-08-06 09:47:45.414 HE IS GOING TO BE A 2016-08-06 09:47:45.43 HE IS GOING TO BE A 2016-08-06 09:47:45.416 HE. 2016-08-06 09:47:45.432 HE. 2016-08-06 09:47:48.43 SHUT YOUR FACE BECAUSE HERE 2016-08-06 09:47:48.415 SHUT YOUR FACE BECAUSE HERE 2016-08-06 09:47:48.435 COMES THE DOCTOR. 2016-08-06 09:47:48.42 COMES THE DOCTOR. 2016-08-06 09:47:51.43 WHAT HAVE YOU GOT? 2016-08-06 09:47:51.415 WHAT HAVE YOU GOT? 2016-08-06 09:47:55.429 IT'S A HE. 2016-08-06 09:47:55.414 IT'S A HE. 2016-08-06 09:47:59.416 I'M LISTENING. 2016-08-06 09:47:59.432 I'M LISTENING. 2016-08-06 09:48:03.487 IT'S JUST MY SON WAS BORN 2016-08-06 09:48:03.472 IT'S JUST MY SON WAS BORN 2016-08-06 09:48:03.492 WITHOUT HIS RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:48:03.477 WITHOUT HIS RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:48:08.558 HOW'S HE GOING TO PLAY BASEBALL? 2016-08-06 09:48:08.543 HOW'S HE GOING TO PLAY BASEBALL? 2016-08-06 09:48:15.561 I'M SORRY, IS THERE ANYTHING 2016-08-06 09:48:15.546 I'M SORRY, IS THERE ANYTHING 2016-08-06 09:48:15.565 ELSE WRONG? 2016-08-06 09:48:15.55 ELSE WRONG? 2016-08-06 09:48:19.559 CAN HE BREATHE PROPERLY? 2016-08-06 09:48:19.544 CAN HE BREATHE PROPERLY? 2016-08-06 09:48:27.612 FINE AND HEALTHY, JUST MISSING 2016-08-06 09:48:27.597 FINE AND HEALTHY, JUST MISSING 2016-08-06 09:48:27.617 HIS RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:48:27.602 HIS RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:48:31.614 CAN I SEE HIM? 2016-08-06 09:48:31.599 CAN I SEE HIM? 2016-08-06 09:48:39.61 LOOK AT YOU. 2016-08-06 09:48:39.595 LOOK AT YOU. 2016-08-06 09:48:42.624 HE IS CUTE. 2016-08-06 09:48:42.64 HE IS CUTE. 2016-08-06 09:48:46.64 HE LOOKS LIKE ME SO HE IS GOING 2016-08-06 09:48:46.625 HE LOOKS LIKE ME SO HE IS GOING 2016-08-06 09:48:46.644 TO BE CUTE. 2016-08-06 09:48:46.63 TO BE CUTE. 2016-08-06 09:48:49.644 I'M GOING TO TAKE HIM TO SEE HIS 2016-08-06 09:48:49.629 I'M GOING TO TAKE HIM TO SEE HIS 2016-08-06 09:48:51.641 MOTHER, KATHY. 2016-08-06 09:48:51.626 MOTHER, KATHY. 2016-08-06 09:48:55.627 I BROUGHT YOU OUR BOY. 2016-08-06 09:48:55.643 I BROUGHT YOU OUR BOY. 2016-08-06 09:49:01.657 HE IS BEAUTIFUL. 2016-08-06 09:49:01.642 HE IS BEAUTIFUL. 2016-08-06 09:49:07.64 FUNNY -- 2016-08-06 09:49:07.625 FUNNY -- 2016-08-06 09:49:11.682 HONEY 2016-08-06 09:49:11.667 HONEY 2016-08-06 09:49:11.686 , WHAT HAPPENED TO 2016-08-06 09:49:11.671 , WHAT HAPPENED TO 2016-08-06 09:49:11.689 HIS HAND? 2016-08-06 09:49:11.674 HIS HAND? 2016-08-06 09:49:15.684 IT'S JUST A GLITCH. 2016-08-06 09:49:15.669 IT'S JUST A GLITCH. 2016-08-06 09:49:19.686 WELL HE'S NOT GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:19.671 WELL HE'S NOT GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:19.691 DIFFERENT, HE HAS YOUR NAME. 2016-08-06 09:49:19.677 DIFFERENT, HE HAS YOUR NAME. 2016-08-06 09:49:24.689 WE WILL CALL HIM DAVID. 2016-08-06 09:49:24.674 WE WILL CALL HIM DAVID. 2016-08-06 09:49:28.685 YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:28.67 YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:28.689 DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:49:28.674 DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:49:33.684 YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:33.669 YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:33.688 DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:49:33.673 DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:49:40.686 MY SON IS JUST GOING TO PLAY 2016-08-06 09:49:40.671 MY SON IS JUST GOING TO PLAY 2016-08-06 09:49:43.685 BASEBALL LEFT-HANDED. 2016-08-06 09:49:43.67 BASEBALL LEFT-HANDED. 2016-08-06 09:49:50.686 THAT IS HOW I ENTERED THE WORLD. 2016-08-06 09:49:50.672 THAT IS HOW I ENTERED THE WORLD. 2016-08-06 09:49:52.684 I MAY HAVE EXAGGERATED A LITTLE 2016-08-06 09:49:52.67 I MAY HAVE EXAGGERATED A LITTLE 2016-08-06 09:49:53.684 BIT, BUT MY PARENTS PROMISED ME 2016-08-06 09:49:53.669 BIT, BUT MY PARENTS PROMISED ME 2016-08-06 09:49:54.684 I WAS NEVER GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:54.669 I WAS NEVER GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 09:49:54.688 DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:49:54.673 DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:49:58.685 THEY NEVER SAW ANYONE WHO LOOKED 2016-08-06 09:49:58.67 THEY NEVER SAW ANYONE WHO LOOKED 2016-08-06 09:50:01.67 LIKE ME SO MY PARENTS TOOK BEEN 2016-08-06 09:50:01.686 LIKE ME SO MY PARENTS TOOK BEEN 2016-08-06 09:50:02.669 TO A SHRINERS HOSPITAL AND THEY 2016-08-06 09:50:02.685 TO A SHRINERS HOSPITAL AND THEY 2016-08-06 09:50:05.685 FITTED ME WITH A PROSTHETIC. 2016-08-06 09:50:05.67 FITTED ME WITH A PROSTHETIC. 2016-08-06 09:50:10.729 THE OTHER 2016-08-06 09:50:10.714 THE OTHER 2016-08-06 09:50:12.768 KIDS, THEY WERE KIDS 2016-08-06 09:50:12.753 KIDS, THEY WERE KIDS 2016-08-06 09:50:12.771 LIKE ME. 2016-08-06 09:50:12.757 LIKE ME. 2016-08-06 09:50:21.817 WE WOULD PLAY GAMES LIKE CANDY 2016-08-06 09:50:21.802 WE WOULD PLAY GAMES LIKE CANDY 2016-08-06 09:50:22.81 LAND OR WATCH G.I. JOE CARE 2016-08-06 09:50:22.795 LAND OR WATCH G.I. JOE CARE 2016-08-06 09:50:22.814 BEARS. 2016-08-06 09:50:22.799 BEARS. 2016-08-06 09:50:24.817 AND THEN THEY WOULD CALL YOUR 2016-08-06 09:50:24.802 AND THEN THEY WOULD CALL YOUR 2016-08-06 09:50:24.805 NAME. 2016-08-06 09:50:24.821 NAME. 2016-08-06 09:50:28.817 I DIDN'T LIKE THIS PART. 2016-08-06 09:50:28.803 I DIDN'T LIKE THIS PART. 2016-08-06 09:50:33.804 YOU ENTER A ROOM FULL OF 2016-08-06 09:50:33.82 YOU ENTER A ROOM FULL OF 2016-08-06 09:50:33.808 DOCTORS. 2016-08-06 09:50:33.824 DOCTORS. 2016-08-06 09:50:37.806 SOMEONE WOULD JUST READING MY 2016-08-06 09:50:37.822 SOMEONE WOULD JUST READING MY 2016-08-06 09:50:37.809 CHART. 2016-08-06 09:50:37.825 CHART. 2016-08-06 09:50:45.862 MY ARM JUST HUNG IN THE AIR 2016-08-06 09:50:45.847 MY ARM JUST HUNG IN THE AIR 2016-08-06 09:50:45.867 WHILE MEN AND WOMEN IN WHITE 2016-08-06 09:50:45.852 WHILE MEN AND WOMEN IN WHITE 2016-08-06 09:50:47.862 COATS TWISTED MY ARM. 2016-08-06 09:50:47.847 COATS TWISTED MY ARM. 2016-08-06 09:50:50.864 USING WORDS I COULD NOT 2016-08-06 09:50:50.849 USING WORDS I COULD NOT 2016-08-06 09:50:50.868 UNDERSTAND. 2016-08-06 09:50:50.853 UNDERSTAND. 2016-08-06 09:50:55.863 DR., DOCTOR, DR., DOCTOR AND 2016-08-06 09:50:55.848 DR., DOCTOR, DR., DOCTOR AND 2016-08-06 09:50:55.867 DOCTOR. 2016-08-06 09:50:55.852 DOCTOR. 2016-08-06 09:50:59.911 THIS YOUNG MAN HAS A 2016-08-06 09:50:59.896 THIS YOUNG MAN HAS A 2016-08-06 09:50:59.917 MALFORMATION OF THE RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:50:59.902 MALFORMATION OF THE RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:51:06.91 SO, TELL US 2016-08-06 09:51:06.895 SO, TELL US 2016-08-06 09:51:06.913 HOW ARE YOU DOING? 2016-08-06 09:51:06.898 HOW ARE YOU DOING? 2016-08-06 09:51:09.914 I'M DOING PRETTY GOOD. 2016-08-06 09:51:09.899 I'M DOING PRETTY GOOD. 2016-08-06 09:51:14.913 I HEARD A NEW SONG, DO YOU WANT 2016-08-06 09:51:14.898 I HEARD A NEW SONG, DO YOU WANT 2016-08-06 09:51:14.916 TO HEAR IT? 2016-08-06 09:51:14.902 TO HEAR IT? 2016-08-06 09:51:20.911 THE DEVIL WENT DOWN TO 2016-08-06 09:51:20.896 THE DEVIL WENT DOWN TO 2016-08-06 09:51:20.913 GEORGIA, 2016-08-06 09:51:20.899 GEORGIA, 2016-08-06 09:51:20.919 HE WAS LOOKING FOR A SOLD STEEL, 2016-08-06 09:51:20.904 HE WAS LOOKING FOR A SOLD STEEL, 2016-08-06 09:51:24.911 HE WAS IN A BIND, HE WAS WAY 2016-08-06 09:51:24.897 HE WAS IN A BIND, HE WAS WAY 2016-08-06 09:51:25.918 BEHIND, HE WAS LOOKING TO MAKE A 2016-08-06 09:51:25.903 BEHIND, HE WAS LOOKING TO MAKE A 2016-08-06 09:51:25.921 DEAL. 2016-08-06 09:51:25.907 DEAL. 2016-08-06 09:51:28.898 THE DEVILS'S IN THE HOUSE WITH 2016-08-06 09:51:28.914 THE DEVILS'S IN THE HOUSE WITH 2016-08-06 09:51:28.917 THE RISING SUN. 2016-08-06 09:51:28.904 THE RISING SUN. 2016-08-06 09:51:33.938 CHICKEN IN THE HEN 2016-08-06 09:51:33.923 CHICKEN IN THE HEN 2016-08-06 09:51:33.941 HOUSE PICKING 2016-08-06 09:51:33.926 HOUSE PICKING 2016-08-06 09:51:33.944 UP THOUGH. 2016-08-06 09:51:33.929 UP THOUGH. 2016-08-06 09:51:39.937 ♪ 2016-08-06 09:51:39.923 ♪ 2016-08-06 09:51:43.94 MY DAD WOULD WATCH FROM THE BACK 2016-08-06 09:51:43.926 MY DAD WOULD WATCH FROM THE BACK 2016-08-06 09:51:48.98 OF THE ROOM, OH DEAR 2016-08-06 09:51:48.965 OF THE ROOM, OH DEAR 2016-08-06 09:51:49.98 GOD. 2016-08-06 09:51:49.965 GOD. 2016-08-06 09:51:50.981 THEN HEWITT TAKE ME BY THE HAND 2016-08-06 09:51:50.967 THEN HEWITT TAKE ME BY THE HAND 2016-08-06 09:51:54.981 AND LEAD ME DOWN THE HALLWAYS TO 2016-08-06 09:51:54.966 AND LEAD ME DOWN THE HALLWAYS TO 2016-08-06 09:51:54.986 THE BASEMENT OF THE SHRINERS 2016-08-06 09:51:54.971 THE BASEMENT OF THE SHRINERS 2016-08-06 09:52:00.981 HOSPITAL 2016-08-06 09:52:00.966 HOSPITAL 2016-08-06 09:52:00.982 . 2016-08-06 09:52:00.968 . 2016-08-06 09:52:02.981 I WAS ALWAYS FITTED BY THIS GUY 2016-08-06 09:52:02.966 I WAS ALWAYS FITTED BY THIS GUY 2016-08-06 09:52:02.986 NAMED BRUCE, WHO WAS A GIANT. 2016-08-06 09:52:02.971 NAMED BRUCE, WHO WAS A GIANT. 2016-08-06 09:52:08.98 HE HAD AN ARTIFICIAL 2016-08-06 09:52:08.965 HE HAD AN ARTIFICIAL 2016-08-06 09:52:11.986 LEG AND 2016-08-06 09:52:11.971 LEG AND 2016-08-06 09:52:13.986 SOMETIMES HE WOULD KARATE CHOP 2016-08-06 09:52:13.971 SOMETIMES HE WOULD KARATE CHOP 2016-08-06 09:52:13.99 IT WITH LINEUP. 2016-08-06 09:52:13.975 IT WITH LINEUP. 2016-08-06 09:52:17.984 WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU A NEW 2016-08-06 09:52:17.97 WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU A NEW 2016-08-06 09:52:17.988 PROSTHESIS. 2016-08-06 09:52:17.973 PROSTHESIS. 2016-08-06 09:52:25.03 AND HE WOULD TAKE PLASTER OF 2016-08-06 09:52:25.015 AND HE WOULD TAKE PLASTER OF 2016-08-06 09:52:25.035 PARIS AND PUT IT IN THE WATER. 2016-08-06 09:52:25.02 PARIS AND PUT IT IN THE WATER. 2016-08-06 09:52:31.023 ONCE IT WAS WET 2016-08-06 09:52:31.008 ONCE IT WAS WET 2016-08-06 09:52:31.025 HE WOULD WRAP MY 2016-08-06 09:52:31.01 HE WOULD WRAP MY 2016-08-06 09:52:31.028 ARM. 2016-08-06 09:52:31.013 ARM. 2016-08-06 09:52:32.024 I WOULD FEEL THE HEAT OF IT. 2016-08-06 09:52:32.009 I WOULD FEEL THE HEAT OF IT. 2016-08-06 09:52:36.027 THE MAKINGS OF A NEW PROSTHESIS. 2016-08-06 09:52:36.012 THE MAKINGS OF A NEW PROSTHESIS. 2016-08-06 09:52:44.026 SO, DAVID, I HEAR YOU ARE ABOUT 2016-08-06 09:52:44.011 SO, DAVID, I HEAR YOU ARE ABOUT 2016-08-06 09:52:44.031 TO START PRESCHOOL, DO YOU KNOW 2016-08-06 09:52:44.016 TO START PRESCHOOL, DO YOU KNOW 2016-08-06 09:52:45.027 WHAT YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU 2016-08-06 09:52:45.012 WHAT YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU 2016-08-06 09:52:45.03 GROW UP? 2016-08-06 09:52:45.015 GROW UP? 2016-08-06 09:52:48.068 WELL I WANT TO BE A BASEBALL 2016-08-06 09:52:48.053 WELL I WANT TO BE A BASEBALL 2016-08-06 09:52:48.073 PLAYER OR A FOOTBALL PLAYER. 2016-08-06 09:52:48.058 PLAYER OR A FOOTBALL PLAYER. 2016-08-06 09:52:51.114 >> HOWDY YOU KNOW WHAT A 2016-08-06 09:52:51.099 >> HOWDY YOU KNOW WHAT A 2016-08-06 09:52:54.115 LETTERMAN JACK -- HOW DO YOU 2016-08-06 09:52:54.1 LETTERMAN JACK -- HOW DO YOU 2016-08-06 09:53:00.114 KNOW WHAT A LETTERMAN JACKET IS? 2016-08-06 09:53:00.099 KNOW WHAT A LETTERMAN JACKET IS? 2016-08-06 09:53:01.112 ALL THE GUYS COME OUT WITH A 2016-08-06 09:53:01.097 ALL THE GUYS COME OUT WITH A 2016-08-06 09:53:03.161 CHECK IN WITH THE BIG LETTER ON 2016-08-06 09:53:03.146 CHECK IN WITH THE BIG LETTER ON 2016-08-06 09:53:03.165 THEM AND THEY ALL HAVE 2016-08-06 09:53:03.15 THEM AND THEY ALL HAVE 2016-08-06 09:53:03.168 GIRLFRIENDS. 2016-08-06 09:53:03.153 GIRLFRIENDS. 2016-08-06 09:53:06.163 AND I WANT TO BE JUST LIKE THEM. 2016-08-06 09:53:06.148 AND I WANT TO BE JUST LIKE THEM. 2016-08-06 09:53:13.164 AND YOU MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE 2016-08-06 09:53:13.149 AND YOU MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE 2016-08-06 09:53:13.168 ARE GOING TO NEED LOTS OF 2016-08-06 09:53:13.153 ARE GOING TO NEED LOTS OF 2016-08-06 09:53:13.172 PERSEVERANCE. 2016-08-06 09:53:13.157 PERSEVERANCE. 2016-08-06 09:53:19.197 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PERSEVERANCE 2016-08-06 09:53:19.182 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PERSEVERANCE 2016-08-06 09:53:19.2 MEANT. 2016-08-06 09:53:19.185 MEANT. 2016-08-06 09:53:24.239 OVER TO THE 2016-08-06 09:53:24.224 OVER TO THE 2016-08-06 09:53:24.242 PERSON WHO KNEW 2016-08-06 09:53:24.227 PERSON WHO KNEW 2016-08-06 09:53:24.229 EVERYTHING, MY GRANDDAD. 2016-08-06 09:53:24.246 EVERYTHING, MY GRANDDAD. 2016-08-06 09:53:29.241 TODAY THE SHRINERS SAID I NEED A 2016-08-06 09:53:29.226 TODAY THE SHRINERS SAID I NEED A 2016-08-06 09:53:29.245 LOT OF PERSEVERANCE, DO YOU KNOW 2016-08-06 09:53:29.23 LOT OF PERSEVERANCE, DO YOU KNOW 2016-08-06 09:53:32.247 WHAT THAT IS? >> WILL TELL YOU 2016-08-06 09:53:32.232 WHAT THAT IS? >> WILL TELL YOU 2016-08-06 09:53:38.239 WHAT, PERSEVERANCE IS A LOT LIKE 2016-08-06 09:53:38.224 WHAT, PERSEVERANCE IS A LOT LIKE 2016-08-06 09:53:38.243 MY LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM. 2016-08-06 09:53:38.228 MY LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM. 2016-08-06 09:53:43.275 WE WERE CALLED 2016-08-06 09:53:43.26 WE WERE CALLED 2016-08-06 09:53:43.277 LITTLE POTATOES. 2016-08-06 09:53:43.262 LITTLE POTATOES. 2016-08-06 09:53:48.322 WE WERE SMALLER THAN 2016-08-06 09:53:48.307 WE WERE SMALLER THAN 2016-08-06 09:53:48.324 THE OTHER 2016-08-06 09:53:48.31 THE OTHER 2016-08-06 09:53:49.322 KIDS, MAYBE NOT AS TALENTED BUT 2016-08-06 09:53:49.307 KIDS, MAYBE NOT AS TALENTED BUT 2016-08-06 09:53:49.326 WE ALWAYS PLAYED WITH OUR 2016-08-06 09:53:49.312 WE ALWAYS PLAYED WITH OUR 2016-08-06 09:53:49.329 HEARTS. 2016-08-06 09:53:49.314 HEARTS. 2016-08-06 09:53:53.369 IT DIDN'T MATTER IF WE WON OR 2016-08-06 09:53:53.354 IT DIDN'T MATTER IF WE WON OR 2016-08-06 09:53:53.372 LOST. 2016-08-06 09:53:53.366 LOST. 2016-08-06 09:53:58.415 IS THE INSIDE WE'RE TALKING 2016-08-06 09:53:58.4 IS THE INSIDE WE'RE TALKING 2016-08-06 09:53:58.417 ABOUT. 2016-08-06 09:53:58.402 ABOUT. 2016-08-06 09:54:09.414 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS 2016-08-06 09:54:09.399 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS 2016-08-06 09:54:09.417 TALKING ABOUT. 2016-08-06 09:54:09.402 TALKING ABOUT. 2016-08-06 09:54:11.446 I WAS STARTING PRESCHOOL AND 2016-08-06 09:54:11.431 I WAS STARTING PRESCHOOL AND 2016-08-06 09:54:14.447 EVERYONE KNOWS THE BEST PART OF 2016-08-06 09:54:14.433 EVERYONE KNOWS THE BEST PART OF 2016-08-06 09:54:14.45 THE SCHOOL THE GLORIOUS SLIDE AT 2016-08-06 09:54:14.436 THE SCHOOL THE GLORIOUS SLIDE AT 2016-08-06 09:54:14.453 THE PLAYGROUND. 2016-08-06 09:54:14.438 THE PLAYGROUND. 2016-08-06 09:54:22.444 AND I'M IN A RACE WITH THIS KID 2016-08-06 09:54:22.43 AND I'M IN A RACE WITH THIS KID 2016-08-06 09:54:23.486 TO BE THE FIRST IN LINE AT THE 2016-08-06 09:54:23.471 TO BE THE FIRST IN LINE AT THE 2016-08-06 09:54:26.487 SLIDE AND I WIN. 2016-08-06 09:54:26.472 SLIDE AND I WIN. 2016-08-06 09:54:33.494 >> HEY CAPTAIN HOOK 2016-08-06 09:54:33.48 >> HEY CAPTAIN HOOK 2016-08-06 09:54:36.488 -- HEY 2016-08-06 09:54:36.474 -- HEY 2016-08-06 09:54:37.49 CAPTAIN HOOK, BETTER WATCH HER 2016-08-06 09:54:37.475 CAPTAIN HOOK, BETTER WATCH HER 2016-08-06 09:54:37.492 ARM. 2016-08-06 09:54:37.478 ARM. 2016-08-06 09:54:41.49 DID YOU FIND YOUR ALLIGATOR? 2016-08-06 09:54:41.475 DID YOU FIND YOUR ALLIGATOR? 2016-08-06 09:54:43.49 CAPTAIN HOOK, CAPTAIN HOOK, 2016-08-06 09:54:43.475 CAPTAIN HOOK, CAPTAIN HOOK, 2016-08-06 09:54:43.492 CAPTAIN HOOK. 2016-08-06 09:54:43.477 CAPTAIN HOOK. 2016-08-06 09:54:49.488 I SUCK 2016-08-06 09:54:49.473 I SUCK 2016-08-06 09:54:50.494 -- I SWUNG MY HOOK AND 2016-08-06 09:54:50.479 -- I SWUNG MY HOOK AND 2016-08-06 09:54:51.489 MISSED. 2016-08-06 09:54:51.474 MISSED. 2016-08-06 09:54:52.531 HE TAKES OFF RUNNING AND I CHASE 2016-08-06 09:54:52.517 HE TAKES OFF RUNNING AND I CHASE 2016-08-06 09:54:52.534 THEM OFF WAY BACK TO THE SCHOOL 2016-08-06 09:54:52.519 THEM OFF WAY BACK TO THE SCHOOL 2016-08-06 09:54:52.536 BUILDING. 2016-08-06 09:54:52.522 BUILDING. 2016-08-06 09:54:56.533 THEN I RAN BACK TO THE SLIDE 2016-08-06 09:54:56.518 THEN I RAN BACK TO THE SLIDE 2016-08-06 09:54:57.526 BECAUSE NOW I WAS FIRST IN LINE. 2016-08-06 09:54:57.511 BECAUSE NOW I WAS FIRST IN LINE. 2016-08-06 09:55:08.531 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME 2016-08-06 09:55:08.533 I SEE IT. 2016-08-06 09:55:08.519 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME 2016-08-06 09:55:08.521 I SEE IT. 2016-08-06 09:55:12.53 I REALLY SEE IT. 2016-08-06 09:55:12.515 I REALLY SEE IT. 2016-08-06 09:55:18.53 MY HOOK. 2016-08-06 09:55:18.516 MY HOOK. 2016-08-06 09:55:18.533 I LOOKED DOWN AT ALL THE OTHER 2016-08-06 09:55:18.519 I LOOKED DOWN AT ALL THE OTHER 2016-08-06 09:55:23.573 KIDS, LOOKING UP AT ME 2016-08-06 09:55:23.558 KIDS, LOOKING UP AT ME 2016-08-06 09:55:23.574 AND I 2016-08-06 09:55:23.559 AND I 2016-08-06 09:55:27.614 REALIZED THAT MY PARENTS LIVE TO 2016-08-06 09:55:27.599 REALIZED THAT MY PARENTS LIVE TO 2016-08-06 09:55:27.616 ME. 2016-08-06 09:55:27.602 ME. 2016-08-06 09:55:33.614 I AM DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:55:33.6 I AM DIFFERENT. 2016-08-06 09:55:47.614 HIS MAMA WAS WAITING FOR MY 2016-08-06 09:55:47.599 HIS MAMA WAS WAITING FOR MY 2016-08-06 09:55:47.617 MOMMA AFTER PRESCHOOL. 2016-08-06 09:55:47.602 MOMMA AFTER PRESCHOOL. 2016-08-06 09:55:48.615 YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR STUFF -- 2016-08-06 09:55:48.6 YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR STUFF -- 2016-08-06 09:55:51.614 TELL YOUR SON TO STAY AWAY FROM 2016-08-06 09:55:51.6 TELL YOUR SON TO STAY AWAY FROM 2016-08-06 09:55:53.618 I SON WITH THAT THING ON HIS ON 2016-08-06 09:55:53.604 I SON WITH THAT THING ON HIS ON 2016-08-06 09:55:53.62 HIS ARM. 2016-08-06 09:55:53.607 HIS ARM. 2016-08-06 09:55:53.623 WHILE YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR SON 2016-08-06 09:55:53.609 WHILE YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR SON 2016-08-06 09:55:57.718 TO STOP CALLING MY SON NAMES. 2016-08-06 09:55:57.703 TO STOP CALLING MY SON NAMES. 2016-08-06 09:55:57.706 SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE STUPID. 2016-08-06 09:55:57.722 SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE STUPID. 2016-08-06 09:56:00.717 THEY GET SCARED BY WHAT THEY 2016-08-06 09:56:00.703 THEY GET SCARED BY WHAT THEY 2016-08-06 09:56:00.719 DON'T UNDERSTAND. 2016-08-06 09:56:00.705 DON'T UNDERSTAND. 2016-08-06 09:56:05.725 YOU HAVE TO WEAR YOUR 2016-08-06 09:56:05.711 YOU HAVE TO WEAR YOUR 2016-08-06 09:56:07.717 HOOK, AND 2016-08-06 09:56:07.703 HOOK, AND 2016-08-06 09:56:07.72 YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR 2016-08-06 09:56:07.706 YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR 2016-08-06 09:56:07.722 RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:56:07.708 RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 09:56:13.743 IF HE SAYS ANYTHING TO YOU 2016-08-06 09:56:13.728 IF HE SAYS ANYTHING TO YOU 2016-08-06 09:56:15.743 AGAIN, USE YOUR LEFT HAND PUNCH 2016-08-06 09:56:15.728 AGAIN, USE YOUR LEFT HAND PUNCH 2016-08-06 09:56:15.73 THEM IN THE NOSE. 2016-08-06 09:56:15.746 THEM IN THE NOSE. 2016-08-06 09:56:20.786 THE PRESCHOOL CALL 2016-08-06 09:56:20.771 THE PRESCHOOL CALL 2016-08-06 09:56:20.787 MY PARENTS TO 2016-08-06 09:56:20.773 MY PARENTS TO 2016-08-06 09:56:22.784 TELL THEM THEY COULDN'T HAVE ME 2016-08-06 09:56:22.769 TELL THEM THEY COULDN'T HAVE ME 2016-08-06 09:56:22.786 TERRORIZING ALL THE OTHER KIDS 2016-08-06 09:56:22.772 TERRORIZING ALL THE OTHER KIDS 2016-08-06 09:56:22.789 ON THE PLAYGROUND AND I WAS NOT 2016-08-06 09:56:22.774 ON THE PLAYGROUND AND I WAS NOT 2016-08-06 09:56:22.791 WELCOME BACK. 2016-08-06 09:56:22.777 WELCOME BACK. 2016-08-06 09:56:28.782 MY MOM 2016-08-06 09:56:28.767 MY MOM 2016-08-06 09:56:28.784 TOLD MY DAD, YOU NEED TO 2016-08-06 09:56:28.77 TOLD MY DAD, YOU NEED TO 2016-08-06 09:56:29.783 FIRE UP THAT STATION WAGON 2016-08-06 09:56:29.768 FIRE UP THAT STATION WAGON 2016-08-06 09:56:30.79 BECAUSE OF THAT LADY WANTS TO 2016-08-06 09:56:30.775 BECAUSE OF THAT LADY WANTS TO 2016-08-06 09:56:32.783 SEE TERRORIZING I WILL SHOW HER 2016-08-06 09:56:32.768 SEE TERRORIZING I WILL SHOW HER 2016-08-06 09:56:35.785 HOW WE TAKE CARE OF THINGS SOUTH 2016-08-06 09:56:35.771 HOW WE TAKE CARE OF THINGS SOUTH 2016-08-06 09:56:35.788 GEORGIA STYLE. 2016-08-06 09:56:35.773 GEORGIA STYLE. 2016-08-06 09:56:39.832 HONEYED, COULD I GET YOU A 2016-08-06 09:56:39.817 HONEYED, COULD I GET YOU A 2016-08-06 09:56:39.834 LIGHT? 2016-08-06 09:56:39.819 LIGHT? 2016-08-06 09:56:49.969 SHE MORE 2016-08-06 09:56:49.954 SHE MORE 2016-08-06 09:56:49.971 THESE LONG FLOWING 2016-08-06 09:56:49.956 THESE LONG FLOWING 2016-08-06 09:56:50.968 CLOTHES AND HAD BIG GOLD 2016-08-06 09:56:50.954 CLOTHES AND HAD BIG GOLD 2016-08-06 09:56:50.977 BRACELETS THAT JINGLED WHEN SHE 2016-08-06 09:56:50.962 BRACELETS THAT JINGLED WHEN SHE 2016-08-06 09:56:50.979 WALKED. 2016-08-06 09:56:50.965 WALKED. 2016-08-06 09:56:54.966 SHE HAD THIS RASPY VOICE THAT 2016-08-06 09:56:54.952 SHE HAD THIS RASPY VOICE THAT 2016-08-06 09:56:54.969 ACCOMPANIED HER BLEACH BLONDE 2016-08-06 09:56:54.955 ACCOMPANIED HER BLEACH BLONDE 2016-08-06 09:56:54.971 HAIR. 2016-08-06 09:56:54.956 HAIR. 2016-08-06 09:57:00.995 YOU ARE A PROMISE, YOU ARE A 2016-08-06 09:57:00.98 YOU ARE A PROMISE, YOU ARE A 2016-08-06 09:57:00.997 POSSIBILITY. 2016-08-06 09:57:00.982 POSSIBILITY. 2016-08-06 09:57:10.994 YOU ARE A PROMISE FOR P 2016-08-06 09:57:10.979 YOU ARE A PROMISE FOR P 2016-08-06 09:57:11.996 -- 2016-08-06 09:57:11.981 -- 2016-08-06 09:57:17.001 PROMISE WITH A CAPITAL P. 2016-08-06 09:57:16.986 PROMISE WITH A CAPITAL P. 2016-08-06 09:57:22.079 SHE ALSO INTRODUCES ME TO THE 2016-08-06 09:57:22.065 SHE ALSO INTRODUCES ME TO THE 2016-08-06 09:57:24.079 STAGE AND INADVERTENTLY ALTERS 2016-08-06 09:57:24.064 STAGE AND INADVERTENTLY ALTERS 2016-08-06 09:57:24.081 THE COURSE OF MY LIFE. 2016-08-06 09:57:24.066 THE COURSE OF MY LIFE. 2016-08-06 09:57:28.082 YOU ARE A LITTLE PERFORMER. 2016-08-06 09:57:28.068 YOU ARE A LITTLE PERFORMER. 2016-08-06 09:57:32.08 I THINK YOU WOULD BE WONDERFUL 2016-08-06 09:57:32.065 I THINK YOU WOULD BE WONDERFUL 2016-08-06 09:57:32.083 AS THE THIRD BILLY GOATS GRUFF. 2016-08-06 09:57:32.068 AS THE THIRD BILLY GOATS GRUFF. 2016-08-06 09:57:35.078 I LOVED BEING BILLY GOAT GRUFF. 2016-08-06 09:57:35.064 I LOVED BEING BILLY GOAT GRUFF. 2016-08-06 09:57:38.085 THAT SUMMER SOMETHING HAPPENED 2016-08-06 09:57:38.07 THAT SUMMER SOMETHING HAPPENED 2016-08-06 09:57:44.078 THAT MADE ME 2016-08-06 09:57:44.063 THAT MADE ME 2016-08-06 09:57:44.08 THE COOLEST KID IN 2016-08-06 09:57:44.066 THE COOLEST KID IN 2016-08-06 09:57:44.082 THE WORLD. 2016-08-06 09:57:44.068 THE WORLD. 2016-08-06 09:57:47.079 MY MOM TOOK ME TO SEE EMPIRE 2016-08-06 09:57:47.064 MY MOM TOOK ME TO SEE EMPIRE 2016-08-06 09:57:49.079 STRIKES BACK AND LUKE SKYWALKER, 2016-08-06 09:57:49.065 STRIKES BACK AND LUKE SKYWALKER, 2016-08-06 09:57:50.078 THE BIGGEST HERO IN THE WORLD, 2016-08-06 09:57:50.063 THE BIGGEST HERO IN THE WORLD, 2016-08-06 09:57:52.123 GETS HIS FREAKING HAND CHOPPED 2016-08-06 09:57:52.108 GETS HIS FREAKING HAND CHOPPED 2016-08-06 09:57:52.125 OFF. 2016-08-06 09:57:52.11 OFF. 2016-08-06 09:57:56.12 I COULD BE LUKE SKYWALKER. 2016-08-06 09:57:56.105 I COULD BE LUKE SKYWALKER. 2016-08-06 09:58:00.12 WHEN I WAS A KID STAR WARS WAS 2016-08-06 09:58:00.105 WHEN I WAS A KID STAR WARS WAS 2016-08-06 09:58:02.12 THE BIGGEST THING IN THE WORLD 2016-08-06 09:58:02.121 AND WE PLAYED STAR WARS ALL THE 2016-08-06 09:58:02.106 THE BIGGEST THING IN THE WORLD 2016-08-06 09:58:02.122 TIME. 2016-08-06 09:58:02.108 AND WE PLAYED STAR WARS ALL THE 2016-08-06 09:58:02.11 TIME. 2016-08-06 09:58:08.12 NOW I COULD SAY, I WANT TO BE 2016-08-06 09:58:08.105 NOW I COULD SAY, I WANT TO BE 2016-08-06 09:58:11.125 LUKE SKYWALKER BECAUSE I ONLY 2016-08-06 09:58:11.111 LUKE SKYWALKER BECAUSE I ONLY 2016-08-06 09:58:11.128 HAVE ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 09:58:11.113 HAVE ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 09:58:15.122 MY FRIEND WOULD BE DARTH VADER 2016-08-06 09:58:15.108 MY FRIEND WOULD BE DARTH VADER 2016-08-06 09:58:15.125 AND WE WOULD HAVE EPIC LIGHT 2016-08-06 09:58:15.111 AND WE WOULD HAVE EPIC LIGHT 2016-08-06 09:58:18.123 SABER BATTLES IN HIS TREEHOUSE, 2016-08-06 09:58:18.109 SABER BATTLES IN HIS TREEHOUSE, 2016-08-06 09:58:18.111 WHICH BECAME CLOUD CITY. 2016-08-06 09:58:18.13 WHICH BECAME CLOUD CITY. 2016-08-06 09:58:30.216 IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE POWER OF 2016-08-06 09:58:30.202 IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE POWER OF 2016-08-06 09:58:30.218 THE DARK SIDE. 2016-08-06 09:58:30.204 THE DARK SIDE. 2016-08-06 09:58:34.218 OBI-WAN NEVER TOLD YOU WHAT 2016-08-06 09:58:34.203 OBI-WAN NEVER TOLD YOU WHAT 2016-08-06 09:58:36.294 HAPPENED TO YOUR FATHER. 2016-08-06 09:58:36.279 HAPPENED TO YOUR FATHER. 2016-08-06 09:58:36.296 HE TOLD ME ENOUGH, HE TOLD ME 2016-08-06 09:58:36.282 HE TOLD ME ENOUGH, HE TOLD ME 2016-08-06 09:58:36.298 YOU KILLED HIM. 2016-08-06 09:58:36.284 YOU KILLED HIM. 2016-08-06 09:58:38.296 NO, I AM YOUR FATHER. 2016-08-06 09:58:38.281 NO, I AM YOUR FATHER. 2016-08-06 09:58:48.29 [HUMMING "IMPERIAL MARCH"] 2016-08-06 09:58:48.275 [HUMMING "IMPERIAL MARCH"] 2016-08-06 09:58:52.371 NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE, THAT'S 2016-08-06 09:58:52.357 NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE, THAT'S 2016-08-06 09:58:53.371 IMPOSSIBLE. 2016-08-06 09:58:53.356 IMPOSSIBLE. 2016-08-06 09:58:58.373 [HUMMING "IMPERIAL MARCH"] 2016-08-06 09:58:58.36 [HUMMING "IMPERIAL MARCH"] 2016-08-06 09:59:03.36 THANK YOU, LANDO. 2016-08-06 09:59:03.376 THANK YOU, LANDO. 2016-08-06 09:59:06.372 NOW TAKE ME TO THE SPACE STATION 2016-08-06 09:59:06.357 NOW TAKE ME TO THE SPACE STATION 2016-08-06 09:59:10.372 WHERE I CAN GET MY NEW LUKE 2016-08-06 09:59:10.357 WHERE I CAN GET MY NEW LUKE 2016-08-06 09:59:11.374 SKYWALKER HAND. 2016-08-06 09:59:11.36 SKYWALKER HAND. 2016-08-06 09:59:13.375 WAIT A MINUTE. 2016-08-06 09:59:13.36 WAIT A MINUTE. 2016-08-06 09:59:17.375 DO I NEED A LUKE SKYWALKER 2016-08-06 09:59:17.36 DO I NEED A LUKE SKYWALKER 2016-08-06 09:59:17.377 HAND? 2016-08-06 09:59:17.362 HAND? 2016-08-06 09:59:21.419 YOU DON'T NEED NO LUKE SKYWALKER 2016-08-06 09:59:21.404 YOU DON'T NEED NO LUKE SKYWALKER 2016-08-06 09:59:22.418 HAND. 2016-08-06 09:59:22.403 HAND. 2016-08-06 09:59:29.471 I SHOULD TELL YOU MY 2016-08-06 09:59:29.456 I SHOULD TELL YOU MY 2016-08-06 09:59:29.472 FAVORITE 2016-08-06 09:59:29.457 FAVORITE 2016-08-06 09:59:31.541 TELEVISION SHOW WAS THE A-TEAM 2016-08-06 09:59:31.526 TELEVISION SHOW WAS THE A-TEAM 2016-08-06 09:59:31.544 AND MY FAVORITE CHARACTER WAS BA 2016-08-06 09:59:31.529 AND MY FAVORITE CHARACTER WAS BA 2016-08-06 09:59:36.626 BARAK S, PLAYED BY 2016-08-06 09:59:36.611 BARAK S, PLAYED BY 2016-08-06 09:59:36.627 THE 2016-08-06 09:59:36.612 THE 2016-08-06 09:59:37.628 INCOMPARABLE MR. T. 2016-08-06 09:59:37.613 INCOMPARABLE MR. T. 2016-08-06 09:59:37.63 I PRETENDED MY HAND LOOKED LIKE 2016-08-06 09:59:37.615 I PRETENDED MY HAND LOOKED LIKE 2016-08-06 09:59:37.632 MR. T. 2016-08-06 09:59:37.617 MR. T. 2016-08-06 09:59:42.671 WHY FINGERS MADE 2016-08-06 09:59:42.656 WHY FINGERS MADE 2016-08-06 09:59:42.672 A PERFECT 2016-08-06 09:59:42.657 A PERFECT 2016-08-06 09:59:42.674 MOHAWK. 2016-08-06 09:59:42.659 MOHAWK. 2016-08-06 09:59:42.676 I WOULD COLOR IN MY FINGERS TO 2016-08-06 09:59:42.661 I WOULD COLOR IN MY FINGERS TO 2016-08-06 09:59:42.678 MAKE A MOHAWK. 2016-08-06 09:59:42.663 MAKE A MOHAWK. 2016-08-06 09:59:45.721 I WOULD PUT A COUPLE OF EYES, A 2016-08-06 09:59:45.706 I WOULD PUT A COUPLE OF EYES, A 2016-08-06 09:59:45.723 MOUTH. 2016-08-06 09:59:45.708 MOUTH. 2016-08-06 09:59:49.791 AND IN MY IMAGINATION MR. T 2016-08-06 09:59:49.777 AND IN MY IMAGINATION MR. T 2016-08-06 09:59:49.793 WOULD COME ALIVE. 2016-08-06 09:59:49.779 WOULD COME ALIVE. 2016-08-06 09:59:54.833 HE GIVE ME 2016-08-06 09:59:54.818 HE GIVE ME 2016-08-06 09:59:54.834 ADVICE. 2016-08-06 09:59:54.819 ADVICE. 2016-08-06 09:59:58.861 YOU DON'T NEED NO NEW LUKE 2016-08-06 09:59:58.881 YOU DON'T NEED NO NEW LUKE 2016-08-06 09:59:58.883 SKYWALKER HAND. 2016-08-06 09:59:58.868 SKYWALKER HAND. 2016-08-06 10:00:05.877 YOU LIKE PLAYING WITH YOUR HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:00:05.863 YOU LIKE PLAYING WITH YOUR HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:00:05.88 THEM EVERYONE SAYS I HAVE TO USE 2016-08-06 10:00:05.881 IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:05.866 THEM EVERYONE SAYS I HAVE TO USE 2016-08-06 10:00:05.868 IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:08.876 NO YOU DON'T. 2016-08-06 10:00:08.862 NO YOU DON'T. 2016-08-06 10:00:13.876 THERE ARE SO MONEY THINGS YOU 2016-08-06 10:00:13.861 THERE ARE SO MONEY THINGS YOU 2016-08-06 10:00:14.875 CAN DO WITH YOUR HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:00:14.86 CAN DO WITH YOUR HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:00:15.877 THEY BASEBALL. 2016-08-06 10:00:15.862 THEY BASEBALL. 2016-08-06 10:00:15.88 HOW AM I GOING TO PLAY BASEBALL? 2016-08-06 10:00:15.865 HOW AM I GOING TO PLAY BASEBALL? 2016-08-06 10:00:24.878 THE GLOVE ON YOUR LEFT-HAND 2016-08-06 10:00:24.864 THE GLOVE ON YOUR LEFT-HAND 2016-08-06 10:00:24.88 , 2016-08-06 10:00:24.865 , 2016-08-06 10:00:24.882 HOLD THE BALL AND THROW IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:24.867 HOLD THE BALL AND THROW IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:26.878 IT'S GOING TO LOOK CITY. 2016-08-06 10:00:26.863 IT'S GOING TO LOOK CITY. 2016-08-06 10:00:30.878 -- LOOK SILLY. 2016-08-06 10:00:30.863 -- LOOK SILLY. 2016-08-06 10:00:30.879 JUST DO IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:30.865 JUST DO IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:36.879 I WILL 2016-08-06 10:00:36.864 I WILL 2016-08-06 10:00:37.877 CATCH THE BALL, ROLL IT 2016-08-06 10:00:37.862 CATCH THE BALL, ROLL IT 2016-08-06 10:00:37.88 OVER, TAKE THE BALL AND THROW 2016-08-06 10:00:37.865 OVER, TAKE THE BALL AND THROW 2016-08-06 10:00:37.882 IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:37.867 IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:45.878 CATCH THE BALL, ROLL IT OVER, 2016-08-06 10:00:45.863 CATCH THE BALL, ROLL IT OVER, 2016-08-06 10:00:45.88 TAKE THE BALL AND THROW IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:45.865 TAKE THE BALL AND THROW IT. 2016-08-06 10:00:50.921 I 2016-08-06 10:00:50.906 I 2016-08-06 10:00:50.923 WOULD THROW WITH MY DAD IN THE 2016-08-06 10:00:50.908 WOULD THROW WITH MY DAD IN THE 2016-08-06 10:00:50.925 BACKYARD AND THEN I WOULD THROW 2016-08-06 10:00:50.91 BACKYARD AND THEN I WOULD THROW 2016-08-06 10:00:53.923 THE BALL AGAINST MY HOUSE UNTIL 2016-08-06 10:00:53.908 THE BALL AGAINST MY HOUSE UNTIL 2016-08-06 10:00:53.925 IT WAS DARK. 2016-08-06 10:00:53.91 IT WAS DARK. 2016-08-06 10:00:59.044 BY MIDDLE SCHOOL 2016-08-06 10:00:59.045 I WAS MAKING 2016-08-06 10:00:59.03 BY MIDDLE SCHOOL 2016-08-06 10:00:59.031 I WAS MAKING 2016-08-06 10:00:59.047 THE ALL-STAR TEAM. 2016-08-06 10:00:59.033 THE ALL-STAR TEAM. 2016-08-06 10:01:04.17 A GUY NAMED JIM ABBOTT WAS 2016-08-06 10:01:04.155 A GUY NAMED JIM ABBOTT WAS 2016-08-06 10:01:05.17 BORN 2016-08-06 10:01:05.155 BORN 2016-08-06 10:01:05.172 LIKE ME. 2016-08-06 10:01:05.157 LIKE ME. 2016-08-06 10:01:05.174 HE WAS GOING TO PITCH IN THE 2016-08-06 10:01:05.16 HE WAS GOING TO PITCH IN THE 2016-08-06 10:01:09.22 NATE -- PITCH IN THE 2016-08-06 10:01:09.205 NATE -- PITCH IN THE 2016-08-06 10:01:11.22 MAJOR-LEAGUE'S PAID A GOOD TO BE 2016-08-06 10:01:11.205 MAJOR-LEAGUE'S PAID A GOOD TO BE 2016-08-06 10:01:13.22 THE NEXT GREAT LEFT-HANDED 2016-08-06 10:01:13.205 THE NEXT GREAT LEFT-HANDED 2016-08-06 10:01:13.222 PITCHER. 2016-08-06 10:01:13.207 PITCHER. 2016-08-06 10:01:14.226 YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO A 2016-08-06 10:01:14.212 YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO A 2016-08-06 10:01:16.271 LETTERMAN JACKET NOW, I KNOW MR. 2016-08-06 10:01:16.256 LETTERMAN JACKET NOW, I KNOW MR. 2016-08-06 10:01:16.273 T. 2016-08-06 10:01:16.258 T. 2016-08-06 10:01:20.292 TO BE NORMAL I NEED TO HAVE A 2016-08-06 10:01:20.308 TO BE NORMAL I NEED TO HAVE A 2016-08-06 10:01:23.34 GIRLFRIEND TO GO ALONG WITH THE 2016-08-06 10:01:23.325 GIRLFRIEND TO GO ALONG WITH THE 2016-08-06 10:01:23.342 LETTERMAN JACKET. 2016-08-06 10:01:23.327 LETTERMAN JACKET. 2016-08-06 10:01:25.342 HOW DOES ONE GET A GIRLFRIEND? 2016-08-06 10:01:25.327 HOW DOES ONE GET A GIRLFRIEND? 2016-08-06 10:01:25.344 IT IS A NUMBERS GAME. 2016-08-06 10:01:25.329 IT IS A NUMBERS GAME. 2016-08-06 10:01:31.381 THE MORE GIRLS I ASK OUT THE 2016-08-06 10:01:31.366 THE MORE GIRLS I ASK OUT THE 2016-08-06 10:01:31.383 BETTER MY CHANCES ARE. 2016-08-06 10:01:31.368 BETTER MY CHANCES ARE. 2016-08-06 10:01:31.385 NOT EXACTLY. 2016-08-06 10:01:31.37 NOT EXACTLY. 2016-08-06 10:01:34.379 I CAN ASK OUT ALL THE GIRLS IN 2016-08-06 10:01:34.364 I CAN ASK OUT ALL THE GIRLS IN 2016-08-06 10:01:35.38 THE LUNCH ROOM. 2016-08-06 10:01:35.365 THE LUNCH ROOM. 2016-08-06 10:01:37.387 WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION? 2016-08-06 10:01:37.372 WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION? 2016-08-06 10:01:41.38 PAIN. 2016-08-06 10:01:41.366 PAIN. 2016-08-06 10:01:44.379 HIGH LADIES. 2016-08-06 10:01:44.365 HIGH LADIES. 2016-08-06 10:01:48.38 LESLIE, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU 2016-08-06 10:01:48.365 LESLIE, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU 2016-08-06 10:01:52.382 WOULD LIKE TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND 2016-08-06 10:01:52.367 WOULD LIKE TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND 2016-08-06 10:01:57.421 AND GO WITH ME 2016-08-06 10:01:57.407 AND GO WITH ME 2016-08-06 10:01:57.423 ? 2016-08-06 10:01:57.408 ? 2016-08-06 10:02:01.522 JULIE, I WAS ONE IF YOU WOULD 2016-08-06 10:02:01.507 JULIE, I WAS ONE IF YOU WOULD 2016-08-06 10:02:02.524 LIKE TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND AND GO 2016-08-06 10:02:02.509 LIKE TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND AND GO 2016-08-06 10:02:02.51 WITH ME? 2016-08-06 10:02:02.526 WITH ME? 2016-08-06 10:02:12.589 AND, 2016-08-06 10:02:12.574 AND, 2016-08-06 10:02:13.633 NO? 2016-08-06 10:02:13.635 OK. 2016-08-06 10:02:13.62 NO? 2016-08-06 10:02:13.622 OK. 2016-08-06 10:02:17.634 I PITY THE GIRL -- NOT NOW MR. 2016-08-06 10:02:17.619 I PITY THE GIRL -- NOT NOW MR. 2016-08-06 10:02:17.636 T. 2016-08-06 10:02:17.621 T. 2016-08-06 10:02:23.632 THEY DON'T WANT TO GO WITH ME 2016-08-06 10:02:23.633 OR 2016-08-06 10:02:23.618 THEY DON'T WANT TO GO WITH ME 2016-08-06 10:02:23.619 OR 2016-08-06 10:02:24.634 BE MY GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE I'M NOT 2016-08-06 10:02:24.619 BE MY GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE I'M NOT 2016-08-06 10:02:24.636 NORMAL AND YOU KNOW THAT IS 2016-08-06 10:02:24.621 NORMAL AND YOU KNOW THAT IS 2016-08-06 10:02:24.638 TRUE. 2016-08-06 10:02:24.623 TRUE. 2016-08-06 10:02:28.676 WHAT CAN I DO TO BE NORMAL 2016-08-06 10:02:28.662 WHAT CAN I DO TO BE NORMAL 2016-08-06 10:02:30.723 ENOUGH TO HAVE THESE GIRLS PAY 2016-08-06 10:02:30.708 ENOUGH TO HAVE THESE GIRLS PAY 2016-08-06 10:02:30.725 ATTENTION TO ME? 2016-08-06 10:02:30.71 ATTENTION TO ME? 2016-08-06 10:02:38.721 HAVE YOU EVER TRIED POLITICS? 2016-08-06 10:02:38.706 HAVE YOU EVER TRIED POLITICS? 2016-08-06 10:02:39.727 IT'S NO SECRET, LADIES LOVE A 2016-08-06 10:02:39.712 IT'S NO SECRET, LADIES LOVE A 2016-08-06 10:02:39.729 POLITICIAN. 2016-08-06 10:02:39.714 POLITICIAN. 2016-08-06 10:02:44.842 YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR BIG 2016-08-06 10:02:44.827 YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR BIG 2016-08-06 10:02:44.843 BOY 2016-08-06 10:02:44.829 BOY 2016-08-06 10:02:45.849 PANTIES ON AND RUN FOR STUDENT 2016-08-06 10:02:45.834 PANTIES ON AND RUN FOR STUDENT 2016-08-06 10:02:45.851 COUNCIL. 2016-08-06 10:02:45.836 COUNCIL. 2016-08-06 10:02:54.896 SO I PUT MY BIG BOY PANTIES ON 2016-08-06 10:02:54.881 SO I PUT MY BIG BOY PANTIES ON 2016-08-06 10:02:54.898 AND TELL MY MOM GOING TO RUN FOR 2016-08-06 10:02:54.884 AND TELL MY MOM GOING TO RUN FOR 2016-08-06 10:02:58.884 STUDENT COUNCIL. 2016-08-06 10:02:58.87 STUDENT COUNCIL. 2016-08-06 10:03:00.888 THAT IS BRILLIANT. 2016-08-06 10:03:00.873 THAT IS BRILLIANT. 2016-08-06 10:03:01.929 I COULD BE A CAMPAIGN MANAGER. 2016-08-06 10:03:01.914 I COULD BE A CAMPAIGN MANAGER. 2016-08-06 10:03:04.97 I HAVE A CAMPAIGN SLOGAN, CATCH 2016-08-06 10:03:04.956 I HAVE A CAMPAIGN SLOGAN, CATCH 2016-08-06 10:03:07.027 THE WAVE, VOTE FOR DAVE. 2016-08-06 10:03:07.012 THE WAVE, VOTE FOR DAVE. 2016-08-06 10:03:11.054 I SEE A BILLBOARD THAT SAYS 2016-08-06 10:03:11.04 I SEE A BILLBOARD THAT SAYS 2016-08-06 10:03:11.057 CATCH THE WAVE, VOTE FOR DAVE. 2016-08-06 10:03:11.043 CATCH THE WAVE, VOTE FOR DAVE. 2016-08-06 10:03:22.136 MY HOMEROOM 2016-08-06 10:03:22.121 MY HOMEROOM 2016-08-06 10:03:23.177 TEACHER WAS ALSO A 2016-08-06 10:03:23.162 TEACHER WAS ALSO A 2016-08-06 10:03:23.179 BIG FAN OF MY CAMPAIGN. 2016-08-06 10:03:23.164 BIG FAN OF MY CAMPAIGN. 2016-08-06 10:03:28.178 IT IS AWESOME. 2016-08-06 10:03:28.163 IT IS AWESOME. 2016-08-06 10:03:31.224 AT THE FACTS ARE YOU ARE RUNNING 2016-08-06 10:03:31.21 AT THE FACTS ARE YOU ARE RUNNING 2016-08-06 10:03:31.227 AGAINST ALL THE POPULAR KIDS. 2016-08-06 10:03:31.212 AGAINST ALL THE POPULAR KIDS. 2016-08-06 10:03:37.305 YOU NEED TO FOCUS IN ON THE 2016-08-06 10:03:37.29 YOU NEED TO FOCUS IN ON THE 2016-08-06 10:03:41.344 UNIVERSAL VOTE AND WHAT IS MORE 2016-08-06 10:03:41.329 UNIVERSAL VOTE AND WHAT IS MORE 2016-08-06 10:03:41.346 UNIVERSAL THAN RAP? 2016-08-06 10:03:41.331 UNIVERSAL THAN RAP? 2016-08-06 10:03:46.375 YOU SHOULD WRAP YOUR SPEECH. 2016-08-06 10:03:46.391 YOU SHOULD WRAP YOUR SPEECH. 2016-08-06 10:03:52.389 MOM, HE THINKS I SHOULD WRAP MY 2016-08-06 10:03:52.39 SPEECH. 2016-08-06 10:03:52.375 MOM, HE THINKS I SHOULD WRAP MY 2016-08-06 10:03:52.377 SPEECH. 2016-08-06 10:03:54.427 >> THAT IS BRILLIANT. 2016-08-06 10:03:54.412 >> THAT IS BRILLIANT. 2016-08-06 10:03:58.472 THE NEXT MORNING MY MOTHER 2016-08-06 10:03:58.457 THE NEXT MORNING MY MOTHER 2016-08-06 10:03:58.474 WRAPPED FOR ME. 2016-08-06 10:03:58.459 WRAPPED FOR ME. 2016-08-06 10:04:04.541 YOU NEED TO SHOW THEM HOW WE DO 2016-08-06 10:04:04.526 YOU NEED TO SHOW THEM HOW WE DO 2016-08-06 10:04:04.543 IT SOUTH GEORGIA STYLE. 2016-08-06 10:04:04.528 IT SOUTH GEORGIA STYLE. 2016-08-06 10:04:17.595 IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF TONE L 2016-08-06 10:04:17.58 IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF TONE L 2016-08-06 10:04:19.595 OC, LET'S DO IT. 2016-08-06 10:04:19.58 OC, LET'S DO IT. 2016-08-06 10:04:24.582 MY NAME IS DAVE AND I'M 2016-08-06 10:04:24.604 MY NAME IS DAVE AND I'M 2016-08-06 10:04:26.597 ASKING YOU TO CATCH THE 2016-08-06 10:04:26.582 ASKING YOU TO CATCH THE 2016-08-06 10:04:27.595 WAVE. 2016-08-06 10:04:27.58 WAVE. 2016-08-06 10:04:32.638 GIVE ME THE CHANCE 2016-08-06 10:04:32.623 GIVE ME THE CHANCE 2016-08-06 10:04:32.64 TO EXHIBIT 2016-08-06 10:04:32.625 TO EXHIBIT 2016-08-06 10:04:32.642 THESE PILOT TIMMY HAS YOUR 2016-08-06 10:04:32.627 THESE PILOT TIMMY HAS YOUR 2016-08-06 10:04:36.638 REPRESENTATIVE BOY -- BY -- 2016-08-06 10:04:36.626 REPRESENTATIVE BOY -- BY -- 2016-08-06 10:04:41.648 EXHIBIT 2016-08-06 10:04:41.633 EXHIBIT 2016-08-06 10:04:41.649 THESE LIGHT 2016-08-06 10:04:41.634 THESE LIGHT 2016-08-06 10:04:41.651 COLLECTING ME YOUR 2016-08-06 10:04:41.636 COLLECTING ME YOUR 2016-08-06 10:04:41.653 REPRESENTATIVE. 2016-08-06 10:04:41.638 REPRESENTATIVE. 2016-08-06 10:04:44.728 RIDE THE WAVE TO GLENN ACADEMY. 2016-08-06 10:04:44.713 RIDE THE WAVE TO GLENN ACADEMY. 2016-08-06 10:04:45.774 PEACE. 2016-08-06 10:04:45.76 PEACE. 2016-08-06 10:04:52.776 THERE WAS THIS 2016-08-06 10:04:52.761 THERE WAS THIS 2016-08-06 10:04:52.777 CORRUPTION OF 2016-08-06 10:04:52.762 CORRUPTION OF 2016-08-06 10:04:52.764 APPLAUSE FROM THE ENTIRE EIGHTH 2016-08-06 10:04:52.78 APPLAUSE FROM THE ENTIRE EIGHTH 2016-08-06 10:04:55.807 GRADE. 2016-08-06 10:04:55.792 GRADE. 2016-08-06 10:04:55.81 AND THEN A STANDING OVATION. 2016-08-06 10:04:55.795 AND THEN A STANDING OVATION. 2016-08-06 10:04:58.805 I HAVE NEVER SEEN A STANDING 2016-08-06 10:04:58.79 I HAVE NEVER SEEN A STANDING 2016-08-06 10:04:59.808 OVATION BEFORE. 2016-08-06 10:04:59.793 OVATION BEFORE. 2016-08-06 10:05:02.85 KIND OF FLOATED BACK TO MY SEAT. 2016-08-06 10:05:02.835 KIND OF FLOATED BACK TO MY SEAT. 2016-08-06 10:05:04.933 TONYA WHO WAS SITTING BESIDE ME 2016-08-06 10:05:04.918 TONYA WHO WAS SITTING BESIDE ME 2016-08-06 10:05:08.974 WHISPERS, I HATE YOU. 2016-08-06 10:05:08.959 WHISPERS, I HATE YOU. 2016-08-06 10:05:13.026 I GUESS GIRLS DON'T LIKE 2016-08-06 10:05:13.011 I GUESS GIRLS DON'T LIKE 2016-08-06 10:05:13.028 POLITICIANS. 2016-08-06 10:05:13.013 POLITICIANS. 2016-08-06 10:05:17.058 I ENDED UP GETTING ELECTED TO 2016-08-06 10:05:17.043 I ENDED UP GETTING ELECTED TO 2016-08-06 10:05:18.098 STUDENT COUNCIL BUT I STILL 2016-08-06 10:05:18.083 STUDENT COUNCIL BUT I STILL 2016-08-06 10:05:18.1 DIDN'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:05:18.086 DIDN'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:05:23.147 I WENT BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL 2016-08-06 10:05:23.135 I WENT BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL 2016-08-06 10:05:25.1 GAME PLAN, IF I COULD GET THAT 2016-08-06 10:05:25.085 GAME PLAN, IF I COULD GET THAT 2016-08-06 10:05:30.097 LETTER -- THAT LETTERMAN JACKET. 2016-08-06 10:05:30.082 LETTER -- THAT LETTERMAN JACKET. 2016-08-06 10:05:36.101 THE NEXT YEAR I 2016-08-06 10:05:36.086 THE NEXT YEAR I 2016-08-06 10:05:36.103 PLAYED JV 2016-08-06 10:05:36.088 PLAYED JV 2016-08-06 10:05:36.104 QUARTERBACK. 2016-08-06 10:05:36.089 QUARTERBACK. 2016-08-06 10:05:42.097 EVERYONE KNOWS 2016-08-06 10:05:42.082 EVERYONE KNOWS 2016-08-06 10:05:46.142 THE VARSITY 2016-08-06 10:05:46.128 THE VARSITY 2016-08-06 10:05:46.144 QUARTERBACK HAS A LETTERMAN 2016-08-06 10:05:46.13 QUARTERBACK HAS A LETTERMAN 2016-08-06 10:05:46.146 JACKET AND A GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:05:46.132 JACKET AND A GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:05:53.237 THE COACH, WHO LOOKS LIKE A 2016-08-06 10:05:53.222 THE COACH, WHO LOOKS LIKE A 2016-08-06 10:05:56.234 MIXTURE OF A PIT BULL AND AN 2016-08-06 10:05:56.219 MIXTURE OF A PIT BULL AND AN 2016-08-06 10:05:56.236 OGRE, HE CHEWED TOBACCO ON THE 2016-08-06 10:05:56.221 OGRE, HE CHEWED TOBACCO ON THE 2016-08-06 10:05:56.238 TIME. 2016-08-06 10:05:56.223 TIME. 2016-08-06 10:06:00.274 GET OVER HERE IDIOT TO ONE. 2016-08-06 10:06:00.259 GET OVER HERE IDIOT TO ONE. 2016-08-06 10:06:02.274 HAVE I TOLD YOU HOW MUCH YOU 2016-08-06 10:06:02.259 HAVE I TOLD YOU HOW MUCH YOU 2016-08-06 10:06:02.276 SUCK? 2016-08-06 10:06:02.265 SUCK? 2016-08-06 10:06:07.348 FOR 2016-08-06 10:06:07.334 FOR 2016-08-06 10:06:07.35 SOME REASON IN MY VAST WORLD 2016-08-06 10:06:07.335 SOME REASON IN MY VAST WORLD 2016-08-06 10:06:12.393 OF WISDOM ICE 2016-08-06 10:06:12.378 OF WISDOM ICE 2016-08-06 10:06:12.394 NEED TO CONSTANTLY 2016-08-06 10:06:12.379 NEED TO CONSTANTLY 2016-08-06 10:06:12.396 REMIND YOU THAT YOU SUCK. 2016-08-06 10:06:12.381 REMIND YOU THAT YOU SUCK. 2016-08-06 10:06:17.434 YOU SUCK AT RUNNING, YOU SUCK AT 2016-08-06 10:06:17.419 YOU SUCK AT RUNNING, YOU SUCK AT 2016-08-06 10:06:17.436 HAND -- SECOND PASSING. 2016-08-06 10:06:17.421 HAND -- SECOND PASSING. 2016-08-06 10:06:23.48 WE ARE NOT GOING TO THROW THE 2016-08-06 10:06:23.465 WE ARE NOT GOING TO THROW THE 2016-08-06 10:06:23.482 BALL NO MORE. 2016-08-06 10:06:23.467 BALL NO MORE. 2016-08-06 10:06:28.6 THERE 2016-08-06 10:06:28.586 THERE 2016-08-06 10:06:28.602 AIN'T NO WAY YOU ARE GOING 2016-08-06 10:06:28.587 AIN'T NO WAY YOU ARE GOING 2016-08-06 10:06:28.604 TO RUN AN OPTION. 2016-08-06 10:06:28.589 TO RUN AN OPTION. 2016-08-06 10:06:30.6 WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:06:30.585 WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:06:35.643 COME OVER 2016-08-06 10:06:35.628 COME OVER 2016-08-06 10:06:35.644 HERE, YOU ARE GOING TO 2016-08-06 10:06:35.63 HERE, YOU ARE GOING TO 2016-08-06 10:06:35.646 BE OUR QUARTERBACK. 2016-08-06 10:06:35.632 BE OUR QUARTERBACK. 2016-08-06 10:06:44.734 I STARTED TO THINK MAYBE HE WAS 2016-08-06 10:06:44.719 I STARTED TO THINK MAYBE HE WAS 2016-08-06 10:06:44.736 RIGHT. 2016-08-06 10:06:44.721 RIGHT. 2016-08-06 10:06:49.728 THEY MOVED ME FROM QUARTERBACK 2016-08-06 10:06:49.713 THEY MOVED ME FROM QUARTERBACK 2016-08-06 10:06:49.73 TO LINEBACKER. 2016-08-06 10:06:49.715 TO LINEBACKER. 2016-08-06 10:06:55.778 MY NECK PRETENDS IT IS AN 2016-08-06 10:06:55.763 MY NECK PRETENDS IT IS AN 2016-08-06 10:06:55.78 ACCORDION. 2016-08-06 10:06:55.765 ACCORDION. 2016-08-06 10:07:01.842 WITHOUT PLAYING I DON'T GET THAT 2016-08-06 10:07:01.858 WITHOUT PLAYING I DON'T GET THAT 2016-08-06 10:07:06.858 LETTERMAN JACKET, I WOULD NEVER 2016-08-06 10:07:06.843 LETTERMAN JACKET, I WOULD NEVER 2016-08-06 10:07:06.86 FEEL NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:07:06.845 FEEL NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:07:16.028 AND A GIRL FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL 2016-08-06 10:07:16.013 AND A GIRL FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL 2016-08-06 10:07:18.025 WAS JUST TRY TO HELP. 2016-08-06 10:07:18.011 WAS JUST TRY TO HELP. 2016-08-06 10:07:20.028 I DECIDE FLIER INVITING PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:07:20.013 I DECIDE FLIER INVITING PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:07:20.03 TO ADDITION FOR THE TRAUMA CLASS 2016-08-06 10:07:20.015 TO ADDITION FOR THE TRAUMA CLASS 2016-08-06 10:07:21.027 AND I THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT. 2016-08-06 10:07:21.012 AND I THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT. 2016-08-06 10:07:25.077 I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A 2016-08-06 10:07:25.062 I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A 2016-08-06 10:07:25.08 GIRLFRIEND AND I DON'T FIND YOU 2016-08-06 10:07:25.065 GIRLFRIEND AND I DON'T FIND YOU 2016-08-06 10:07:28.077 ATTRACTIVE, THAT I THINK THAT 2016-08-06 10:07:28.062 ATTRACTIVE, THAT I THINK THAT 2016-08-06 10:07:34.102 THEATER PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:07:34.087 THEATER PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:07:35.102 -- THEATER PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:07:35.087 -- THEATER PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:07:37.103 ARE FUNNY, AND FUNNY IS CUTE. 2016-08-06 10:07:37.088 ARE FUNNY, AND FUNNY IS CUTE. 2016-08-06 10:07:42.15 THEY ARE DOING ROMEO AND JULIET 2016-08-06 10:07:42.144 THEY ARE DOING ROMEO AND JULIET 2016-08-06 10:07:46.148 AND SOMEHOW I READ MY AUDITION 2016-08-06 10:07:46.133 AND SOMEHOW I READ MY AUDITION 2016-08-06 10:07:50.187 AND I FINISH BY SAYING, I HAVE 2016-08-06 10:07:50.172 AND I FINISH BY SAYING, I HAVE 2016-08-06 10:07:50.19 EXPERIENCE, I HAVE BEEN THE 2016-08-06 10:07:50.175 EXPERIENCE, I HAVE BEEN THE 2016-08-06 10:07:50.192 THIRD BILLY GOAT GRUFF. 2016-08-06 10:07:50.177 THIRD BILLY GOAT GRUFF. 2016-08-06 10:07:59.231 SOMEHOW SOMEWAY I GET CAST AS 2016-08-06 10:07:59.216 SOMEHOW SOMEWAY I GET CAST AS 2016-08-06 10:07:59.218 ROMEO AND WILLY WONKA IN THE 2016-08-06 10:07:59.234 ROMEO AND WILLY WONKA IN THE 2016-08-06 10:08:02.235 CHOCOLATE FACTORY. 2016-08-06 10:08:02.22 CHOCOLATE FACTORY. 2016-08-06 10:08:08.328 IT FELT LIKE I WAS AT HOME. 2016-08-06 10:08:08.313 IT FELT LIKE I WAS AT HOME. 2016-08-06 10:08:13.44 IT STARTED TO FEEL 2016-08-06 10:08:13.426 IT STARTED TO FEEL 2016-08-06 10:08:13.442 REAL. 2016-08-06 10:08:13.427 REAL. 2016-08-06 10:08:13.444 THEY DON'T GIVE LETTERMAN JACKET 2016-08-06 10:08:13.429 THEY DON'T GIVE LETTERMAN JACKET 2016-08-06 10:08:13.446 OUT FOR DRAMA. 2016-08-06 10:08:13.431 OUT FOR DRAMA. 2016-08-06 10:08:18.53 SO I WENT 2016-08-06 10:08:18.515 SO I WENT 2016-08-06 10:08:18.532 OUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT 2016-08-06 10:08:18.517 OUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT 2016-08-06 10:08:18.534 I WAS GOING TO GET THAT 2016-08-06 10:08:18.519 I WAS GOING TO GET THAT 2016-08-06 10:08:18.536 LETTERMAN JACKET. 2016-08-06 10:08:18.521 LETTERMAN JACKET. 2016-08-06 10:08:21.579 AND I WAS GOING TO BE NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:08:21.564 AND I WAS GOING TO BE NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:08:26.611 AND MY DAD BUILT A PITCHER'S 2016-08-06 10:08:26.627 AND MY DAD BUILT A PITCHER'S 2016-08-06 10:08:26.613 MOUND IN THE BACKYARD. 2016-08-06 10:08:26.629 MOUND IN THE BACKYARD. 2016-08-06 10:08:28.648 THEY HAVE TO PUT ME ON THE TEAM. 2016-08-06 10:08:28.633 THEY HAVE TO PUT ME ON THE TEAM. 2016-08-06 10:08:32.655 THERE IS JUST ONE THING THAT 2016-08-06 10:08:32.64 THERE IS JUST ONE THING THAT 2016-08-06 10:08:32.657 KEEPS ME FROM ACTUALLY PLAYING. 2016-08-06 10:08:32.642 KEEPS ME FROM ACTUALLY PLAYING. 2016-08-06 10:08:33.65 USE ACT. 2016-08-06 10:08:33.635 USE ACT. 2016-08-06 10:08:38.659 COME ON COACH, 2016-08-06 10:08:38.645 COME ON COACH, 2016-08-06 10:08:38.661 I'VE BEEN WORKING 2016-08-06 10:08:38.646 I'VE BEEN WORKING 2016-08-06 10:08:38.663 REALLY HARD, YOU HAVE TO LET ME 2016-08-06 10:08:38.648 REALLY HARD, YOU HAVE TO LET ME 2016-08-06 10:08:38.665 PLAY. 2016-08-06 10:08:38.65 PLAY. 2016-08-06 10:08:43.692 >> I MIGHT 2016-08-06 10:08:43.677 >> I MIGHT 2016-08-06 10:08:43.694 MAYBE LET YOU PITCH 2016-08-06 10:08:43.679 MAYBE LET YOU PITCH 2016-08-06 10:08:43.696 THE THIRD PLAYOFF GAME IN OUR 2016-08-06 10:08:43.681 THE THIRD PLAYOFF GAME IN OUR 2016-08-06 10:08:45.691 PLAYOFF SERIES. 2016-08-06 10:08:45.676 PLAYOFF SERIES. 2016-08-06 10:08:50.689 THE PLAYOFF SERIES WAS A BEST OF 2016-08-06 10:08:50.674 THE PLAYOFF SERIES WAS A BEST OF 2016-08-06 10:08:51.696 THREE GAMES SO FOR YOU WON THE 2016-08-06 10:08:51.681 THREE GAMES SO FOR YOU WON THE 2016-08-06 10:08:51.698 FIRST TWO GAMES WE WOULD NEVER 2016-08-06 10:08:51.683 FIRST TWO GAMES WE WOULD NEVER 2016-08-06 10:08:54.689 EVER PLAY A THIRD GAME. 2016-08-06 10:08:54.674 EVER PLAY A THIRD GAME. 2016-08-06 10:08:58.691 EVERYONE EXPECTED US TO WIN 2016-08-06 10:08:58.676 EVERYONE EXPECTED US TO WIN 2016-08-06 10:08:58.678 THOSE FIRST TWO GAMES AND WE 2016-08-06 10:08:58.694 THOSE FIRST TWO GAMES AND WE 2016-08-06 10:08:58.695 LOST. 2016-08-06 10:08:58.68 LOST. 2016-08-06 10:09:03.736 AND I WENT TO THE 2016-08-06 10:09:03.721 AND I WENT TO THE 2016-08-06 10:09:04.734 BULLPEN TO 2016-08-06 10:09:04.719 BULLPEN TO 2016-08-06 10:09:05.777 PITCH THE THIRD. 2016-08-06 10:09:05.762 PITCH THE THIRD. 2016-08-06 10:09:08.834 DAVID, A CHANGED MY MIND, YOU'RE 2016-08-06 10:09:08.819 DAVID, A CHANGED MY MIND, YOU'RE 2016-08-06 10:09:08.836 OUT. 2016-08-06 10:09:08.821 OUT. 2016-08-06 10:09:16.902 I JUST WANTED A CHANCE TO PROVE 2016-08-06 10:09:16.887 I JUST WANTED A CHANCE TO PROVE 2016-08-06 10:09:16.903 MYSELF. 2016-08-06 10:09:16.889 MYSELF. 2016-08-06 10:09:31.993 I HAD TO SEND YOUR FATHER 2016-08-06 10:09:31.978 I HAD TO SEND YOUR FATHER 2016-08-06 10:09:36.041 HOME. 2016-08-06 10:09:36.026 HOME. 2016-08-06 10:09:37.132 YOU CAN'T QUIT, THAT IS WHAT 2016-08-06 10:09:37.117 YOU CAN'T QUIT, THAT IS WHAT 2016-08-06 10:09:37.134 THEY WANT YOU TO DO. 2016-08-06 10:09:37.119 THEY WANT YOU TO DO. 2016-08-06 10:09:43.027 MY 2016-08-06 10:09:43.013 MY 2016-08-06 10:09:44.03 COACH WOULD ALWAYS BE IN MY 2016-08-06 10:09:44.015 COACH WOULD ALWAYS BE IN MY 2016-08-06 10:09:44.032 EARS SAYING WHEN ARE YOU GOING 2016-08-06 10:09:44.017 EARS SAYING WHEN ARE YOU GOING 2016-08-06 10:09:45.028 TO QUIT HAROLD, WHEN ARE YOU 2016-08-06 10:09:45.013 TO QUIT HAROLD, WHEN ARE YOU 2016-08-06 10:09:52.079 GOING TO QUIT? 2016-08-06 10:09:52.064 GOING TO QUIT? 2016-08-06 10:09:52.065 AND I WOULD SAY 2016-08-06 10:09:52.081 AND I WOULD SAY 2016-08-06 10:09:56.11 GRADUATION DAY, 1967. 2016-08-06 10:09:56.095 GRADUATION DAY, 1967. 2016-08-06 10:09:58.171 THAT IS WHAT PERSEVERANCE IS. 2016-08-06 10:09:58.156 THAT IS WHAT PERSEVERANCE IS. 2016-08-06 10:10:05.153 AND LIVE IS A LOT ABOUT 2016-08-06 10:10:05.138 AND LIVE IS A LOT ABOUT 2016-08-06 10:10:05.156 PERSEVERANCE AND COURAGE. 2016-08-06 10:10:05.141 PERSEVERANCE AND COURAGE. 2016-08-06 10:10:08.194 FIND THE COURAGE TO GO BACK AND 2016-08-06 10:10:08.179 FIND THE COURAGE TO GO BACK AND 2016-08-06 10:10:09.197 THAT DUGOUT. 2016-08-06 10:10:09.182 THAT DUGOUT. 2016-08-06 10:10:31.487 I GOT A FAVOR FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:10:31.472 I GOT A FAVOR FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:10:34.491 I WENT TO THE BULLPEN AND WARMED 2016-08-06 10:10:34.476 I WENT TO THE BULLPEN AND WARMED 2016-08-06 10:10:34.492 UP. 2016-08-06 10:10:34.477 UP. 2016-08-06 10:10:44.695 THE TIMED RUN WAS 2016-08-06 10:10:44.68 THE TIMED RUN WAS 2016-08-06 10:10:44.696 ON THIRD. 2016-08-06 10:10:44.682 ON THIRD. 2016-08-06 10:10:55.906 I THREW THE BALL HOME AND I 2016-08-06 10:10:55.907 WATCHED. 2016-08-06 10:10:55.895 I THREW THE BALL HOME AND I 2016-08-06 10:10:55.898 WATCHED. 2016-08-06 10:11:05.035 HE TURNS THE DOUBLE PLAY. 2016-08-06 10:11:05.02 HE TURNS THE DOUBLE PLAY. 2016-08-06 10:11:10.147 AND 2016-08-06 10:11:10.163 AND 2016-08-06 10:11:11.157 I JUMP AND I AM BUMP BAR TO 2016-08-06 10:11:11.142 I JUMP AND I AM BUMP BAR TO 2016-08-06 10:11:11.159 BUY OF THE TEAM. 2016-08-06 10:11:11.144 BUY OF THE TEAM. 2016-08-06 10:11:15.241 AND I WAS KING OF THE WORLD FOR 2016-08-06 10:11:15.226 AND I WAS KING OF THE WORLD FOR 2016-08-06 10:11:15.243 FIVE MINUTES. 2016-08-06 10:11:15.228 FIVE MINUTES. 2016-08-06 10:11:18.289 THE REST OF THE TEAM GO BACK TO 2016-08-06 10:11:18.274 THE REST OF THE TEAM GO BACK TO 2016-08-06 10:11:21.283 CELEBRATE AND I STAY ON THE 2016-08-06 10:11:21.268 CELEBRATE AND I STAY ON THE 2016-08-06 10:11:21.285 PITCHER'S MOUND. 2016-08-06 10:11:21.27 PITCHER'S MOUND. 2016-08-06 10:11:28.367 THAT WAS A HECK OF A GAME. 2016-08-06 10:11:28.352 THAT WAS A HECK OF A GAME. 2016-08-06 10:11:30.411 I'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:11:30.396 I'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:11:36.489 I STILL THINK YOU 2016-08-06 10:11:36.475 I STILL THINK YOU 2016-08-06 10:11:40.488 SUCK, JUST 2016-08-06 10:11:40.473 SUCK, JUST 2016-08-06 10:11:40.49 NOT 2016-08-06 10:11:40.475 NOT 2016-08-06 10:11:40.492 TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY. 2016-08-06 10:11:40.477 TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY. 2016-08-06 10:11:42.532 HERE YOU GO. 2016-08-06 10:11:42.517 HERE YOU GO. 2016-08-06 10:11:44.533 IT'S YOURS. 2016-08-06 10:11:44.518 IT'S YOURS. 2016-08-06 10:12:01.836 THIS FEELS GOOD MR. T. 2016-08-06 10:12:01.821 THIS FEELS GOOD MR. T. 2016-08-06 10:12:01.837 YOU KNOW IT DOES. 2016-08-06 10:12:01.822 YOU KNOW IT DOES. 2016-08-06 10:12:08.892 DO YOU FEEL NORMAL NOW? KIND 2016-08-06 10:12:08.877 DO YOU FEEL NORMAL NOW? KIND 2016-08-06 10:12:11.909 OF 2016-08-06 10:12:11.894 OF 2016-08-06 10:12:11.91 . 2016-08-06 10:12:11.895 . 2016-08-06 10:12:12.908 IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING IS STILL 2016-08-06 10:12:12.893 IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING IS STILL 2016-08-06 10:12:12.911 MISSING LIKE A GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:12:12.896 MISSING LIKE A GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:12:15.95 HOW DOES ONE MAKE A FRIEND A 2016-08-06 10:12:15.935 HOW DOES ONE MAKE A FRIEND A 2016-08-06 10:12:15.952 GIRLFRIEND? 2016-08-06 10:12:15.937 GIRLFRIEND? 2016-08-06 10:12:18.999 RESPECT JUST A LITTLE BIT. 2016-08-06 10:12:18.985 RESPECT JUST A LITTLE BIT. 2016-08-06 10:12:31.034 RE: SPECT. 2016-08-06 10:12:31.02 RE: SPECT. 2016-08-06 10:12:36.034 >> OZONE AND IF YOU LIKE TO GET 2016-08-06 10:12:36.019 >> OZONE AND IF YOU LIKE TO GET 2016-08-06 10:12:37.036 SOME HOT CHOCOLATE AND WE CAN 2016-08-06 10:12:37.021 SOME HOT CHOCOLATE AND WE CAN 2016-08-06 10:12:38.034 WARM UP A LITTLE BIT. 2016-08-06 10:12:38.019 WARM UP A LITTLE BIT. 2016-08-06 10:12:40.034 ARE YOU ASKING ME OUT? 2016-08-06 10:12:40.02 ARE YOU ASKING ME OUT? 2016-08-06 10:12:46.135 I DON'T FIND YOU 2016-08-06 10:12:46.12 I DON'T FIND YOU 2016-08-06 10:12:49.201 ATTRACTIVE BUT 2016-08-06 10:12:49.186 ATTRACTIVE BUT 2016-08-06 10:12:51.205 MANY OF MY FRIENDS FIND HER. 2016-08-06 10:12:51.19 MANY OF MY FRIENDS FIND HER. 2016-08-06 10:12:51.207 YOU'RE BEING KIND OF FUNNY. 2016-08-06 10:12:51.192 YOU'RE BEING KIND OF FUNNY. 2016-08-06 10:12:54.204 I SAID FUNNY IS CUTE. 2016-08-06 10:12:54.189 I SAID FUNNY IS CUTE. 2016-08-06 10:12:59.248 I THINK I'M SORT OF 2016-08-06 10:12:59.233 I THINK I'M SORT OF 2016-08-06 10:12:59.249 FINDING USE 2016-08-06 10:12:59.235 FINDING USE 2016-08-06 10:12:59.251 OUT OF CUTE. 2016-08-06 10:12:59.236 OUT OF CUTE. 2016-08-06 10:13:00.245 I WILL TOTALLY BE YOUR 2016-08-06 10:13:00.23 I WILL TOTALLY BE YOUR 2016-08-06 10:13:00.247 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:00.232 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:04.334 YOU GOT A LETTERMAN JACKET FOR A 2016-08-06 10:13:04.319 YOU GOT A LETTERMAN JACKET FOR A 2016-08-06 10:13:04.335 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:04.32 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:10.358 IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IS 2016-08-06 10:13:10.343 IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IS 2016-08-06 10:13:10.36 GOING SO FAST. 2016-08-06 10:13:10.345 GOING SO FAST. 2016-08-06 10:13:14.407 I JUST GOT A LETTER FROM A 2016-08-06 10:13:14.392 I JUST GOT A LETTER FROM A 2016-08-06 10:13:15.383 BASEBALL COACH IN TENNESSEE. 2016-08-06 10:13:15.369 BASEBALL COACH IN TENNESSEE. 2016-08-06 10:13:21.396 HE WANTS TO OFFER 2016-08-06 10:13:21.381 HE WANTS TO OFFER 2016-08-06 10:13:24.412 YOU A BASEBALL 2016-08-06 10:13:24.397 YOU A BASEBALL 2016-08-06 10:13:24.414 SCHOLARSHIP AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT 2016-08-06 10:13:24.399 SCHOLARSHIP AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT 2016-08-06 10:13:27.492 BASEBALL SCHOLARSHIP IS A 2016-08-06 10:13:27.477 BASEBALL SCHOLARSHIP IS A 2016-08-06 10:13:27.494 SCHOLARSHIP FROM GOD. 2016-08-06 10:13:27.479 SCHOLARSHIP FROM GOD. 2016-08-06 10:13:32.534 A 2016-08-06 10:13:32.52 A 2016-08-06 10:13:35.634 SCHOLARSHIP FOR GOD -- 2016-08-06 10:13:35.619 SCHOLARSHIP FOR GOD -- 2016-08-06 10:13:35.621 SCHOLARSHIP FROM GOD? 2016-08-06 10:13:35.637 SCHOLARSHIP FROM GOD? 2016-08-06 10:13:35.623 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 2016-08-06 10:13:35.639 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 2016-08-06 10:13:43.689 WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? 2016-08-06 10:13:43.705 WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? 2016-08-06 10:13:45.746 I WANT TO BE AN ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:13:45.731 I WANT TO BE AN ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:13:51.745 I PROVED 2016-08-06 10:13:51.73 I PROVED 2016-08-06 10:13:51.747 ALL I NEEDED TO PROVE 2016-08-06 10:13:51.732 ALL I NEEDED TO PROVE 2016-08-06 10:13:51.749 PLAYING BASEBALL. 2016-08-06 10:13:51.734 PLAYING BASEBALL. 2016-08-06 10:13:53.747 YOU DON'T WANT A GIRLFRIEND? 2016-08-06 10:13:53.732 YOU DON'T WANT A GIRLFRIEND? 2016-08-06 10:13:57.744 MAY BE EVENTUALLY I WILL HAVE A 2016-08-06 10:13:57.729 MAY BE EVENTUALLY I WILL HAVE A 2016-08-06 10:13:58.79 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:58.775 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:58.793 I DON'T WANT TO HAVE JUST ONE 2016-08-06 10:13:58.778 I DON'T WANT TO HAVE JUST ONE 2016-08-06 10:13:58.779 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:13:58.799 GIRLFRIEND. 2016-08-06 10:14:04.835 YOUR FRESHMAN YEAR OF COLLEGE 2016-08-06 10:14:04.82 YOUR FRESHMAN YEAR OF COLLEGE 2016-08-06 10:14:04.837 WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. 2016-08-06 10:14:04.822 WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. 2016-08-06 10:14:07.887 I WANT TO BE A NORMAL ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:14:07.872 I WANT TO BE A NORMAL ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:14:11.918 SO I WENT TO COLLEGE AND I 2016-08-06 10:14:11.904 SO I WENT TO COLLEGE AND I 2016-08-06 10:14:11.92 STUDIED THEATER. 2016-08-06 10:14:11.906 STUDIED THEATER. 2016-08-06 10:14:14.18 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NORMAL 2016-08-06 10:14:14.165 I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NORMAL 2016-08-06 10:14:21.091 ACTOR AND I 2016-08-06 10:14:21.076 ACTOR AND I 2016-08-06 10:14:21.092 WAS CAST IN THE 2016-08-06 10:14:21.077 WAS CAST IN THE 2016-08-06 10:14:21.094 TEMPEST. 2016-08-06 10:14:21.079 TEMPEST. 2016-08-06 10:14:45.761 I WAS MAULED BY A BEAST AND I 2016-08-06 10:14:45.747 I WAS MAULED BY A BEAST AND I 2016-08-06 10:14:45.763 WAS A SWAN. 2016-08-06 10:14:45.748 WAS A SWAN. 2016-08-06 10:14:49.545 THE SWAN THAT OF MORE FOR SIZES 2016-08-06 10:14:49.53 THE SWAN THAT OF MORE FOR SIZES 2016-08-06 10:14:52.738 TO PERFECT -- 2016-08-06 10:14:52.723 TO PERFECT -- 2016-08-06 10:15:04.386 AND THIS IS PERFECT. 2016-08-06 10:15:04.371 AND THIS IS PERFECT. 2016-08-06 10:15:09.441 THIS CRASHES INTO THE 2016-08-06 10:15:09.426 THIS CRASHES INTO THE 2016-08-06 10:15:10.47 WORLD. 2016-08-06 10:15:10.455 WORLD. 2016-08-06 10:15:24.797 THIS 2016-08-06 10:15:24.782 THIS 2016-08-06 10:15:24.799 IS WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR 2016-08-06 10:15:24.784 IS WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR 2016-08-06 10:15:24.801 THE REST OF MY LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:15:24.786 THE REST OF MY LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:15:25.419 IS WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR 2016-08-06 10:15:25.404 IS WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR 2016-08-06 10:15:25.421 THE REST OF MY LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:15:25.407 THE REST OF MY LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:15:25.423 I WANT TO BE A NORMAL ACTOR SO I 2016-08-06 10:15:25.408 I WANT TO BE A NORMAL ACTOR SO I 2016-08-06 10:15:28.176 DO IT EVERY NORMAL ACTOR DOES 2016-08-06 10:15:28.161 DO IT EVERY NORMAL ACTOR DOES 2016-08-06 10:15:32.783 WHEN THEY FINISH COLLEGE. 2016-08-06 10:15:32.768 WHEN THEY FINISH COLLEGE. 2016-08-06 10:15:36.898 I WOULD SEE THE AGENTS. 2016-08-06 10:15:36.884 I WOULD SEE THE AGENTS. 2016-08-06 10:15:37.003 IN THIS BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO BE 2016-08-06 10:15:36.988 IN THIS BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO BE 2016-08-06 10:15:37.005 ALL BUSINESS. 2016-08-06 10:15:36.99 ALL BUSINESS. 2016-08-06 10:15:47.725 THAT LITTLE KID OVER THERE HAS 2016-08-06 10:15:47.71 THAT LITTLE KID OVER THERE HAS 2016-08-06 10:15:57.723 BEEN 2016-08-06 10:15:57.708 BEEN 2016-08-06 10:16:03.737 THAT LITTLE KID OVER THERE HAS 2016-08-06 10:16:03.723 THAT LITTLE KID OVER THERE HAS 2016-08-06 10:16:03.741 BEEN IN MOVIES OF THE WEEK. 2016-08-06 10:16:03.729 BEEN IN MOVIES OF THE WEEK. 2016-08-06 10:16:03.823 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR 2016-08-06 10:16:03.824 SOMEBODY WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:16:03.809 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR 2016-08-06 10:16:03.811 SOMEBODY WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:16:03.921 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR 2016-08-06 10:16:03.922 SOMEBODY WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:16:03.907 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR 2016-08-06 10:16:03.923 A PIRATE, HAVE YOU GOT A HOOK? 2016-08-06 10:16:03.909 SOMEBODY WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:16:03.911 A PIRATE, HAVE YOU GOT A HOOK? 2016-08-06 10:16:04.202 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR 2016-08-06 10:16:04.203 SOMEBODY WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:16:04.188 THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR 2016-08-06 10:16:04.204 A PIRATE, HAVE YOU GOT A HOOK? 2016-08-06 10:16:04.205 YOU USE TO HAVE A HOOK, WHEN YOU 2016-08-06 10:16:04.19 SOMEBODY WITH ONE HAND. 2016-08-06 10:16:04.206 SHOULD GET BACK AGAIN BECAUSE 2016-08-06 10:16:04.207 YOU CAN BE A PIRATE. 2016-08-06 10:16:04.192 A PIRATE, HAVE YOU GOT A HOOK? 2016-08-06 10:16:04.194 YOU USE TO HAVE A HOOK, WHEN YOU 2016-08-06 10:16:04.196 SHOULD GET BACK AGAIN BECAUSE 2016-08-06 10:16:04.198 YOU CAN BE A PIRATE. 2016-08-06 10:16:13.51 WHAT ABOUT A ONE ARMED 2016-08-06 10:16:13.495 WHAT ABOUT A ONE ARMED 2016-08-06 10:16:13.878 GUY GUY? 2016-08-06 10:16:13.863 GUY GUY? 2016-08-06 10:16:13.88 IT CREEPY PERSON LIKE A CREEPY 2016-08-06 10:16:13.865 IT CREEPY PERSON LIKE A CREEPY 2016-08-06 10:16:13.881 BEGGAR. 2016-08-06 10:16:13.866 BEGGAR. 2016-08-06 10:16:16.634 HOW ABOUT A ZOMBIE? 2016-08-06 10:16:16.619 HOW ABOUT A ZOMBIE? 2016-08-06 10:16:18.636 LET ME SEE YOUR BEST CREEPY 2016-08-06 10:16:18.621 LET ME SEE YOUR BEST CREEPY 2016-08-06 10:16:18.638 HYPNOTIZING ZOMBIE. 2016-08-06 10:16:18.623 HYPNOTIZING ZOMBIE. 2016-08-06 10:16:31.794 THAT WAS AWESOME. 2016-08-06 10:16:31.779 THAT WAS AWESOME. 2016-08-06 10:16:36.842 YOU ARE PERFECT. 2016-08-06 10:16:36.827 YOU ARE PERFECT. 2016-08-06 10:16:43.944 CREEPY ROLES 2016-08-06 10:16:43.96 CREEPY ROLES 2016-08-06 10:16:43.961 AND VIOLENT ROLES. 2016-08-06 10:16:43.946 AND VIOLENT ROLES. 2016-08-06 10:16:53.63 YOU CAN BE A NATIVE AMERICAN. 2016-08-06 10:16:53.615 YOU CAN BE A NATIVE AMERICAN. 2016-08-06 10:16:54.906 AND I WAS CAST BY A NATIVE 2016-08-06 10:16:54.922 AND I WAS CAST BY A NATIVE 2016-08-06 10:17:14.921 AMERICAN 2016-08-06 10:17:14.906 AMERICAN 2016-08-06 10:17:18.06 AMERICAN -- CAST AS A NATIVE 2016-08-06 10:17:18.076 AMERICAN -- CAST AS A NATIVE 2016-08-06 10:17:18.077 AMERICAN. 2016-08-06 10:17:18.062 AMERICAN. 2016-08-06 10:17:18.079 THE DIRECTOR WANTED TO USE ME 2016-08-06 10:17:18.064 THE DIRECTOR WANTED TO USE ME 2016-08-06 10:17:19.449 PROMINENTLY -- TO COME DOWN WITH 2016-08-06 10:17:19.434 PROMINENTLY -- TO COME DOWN WITH 2016-08-06 10:17:19.436 A SWORD AND CHOP MY FREAKING 2016-08-06 10:17:19.455 A SWORD AND CHOP MY FREAKING 2016-08-06 10:17:19.457 HANDOFF. 2016-08-06 10:17:19.442 HANDOFF. 2016-08-06 10:17:19.459 I WOULD GET MY ARM IN BLOOD AND 2016-08-06 10:17:19.444 I WOULD GET MY ARM IN BLOOD AND 2016-08-06 10:17:19.461 AS THE SOLDIER CAN GET AND SWUNG 2016-08-06 10:17:19.446 AS THE SOLDIER CAN GET AND SWUNG 2016-08-06 10:17:19.463 HIS SWORD OUT SLING MY ARM OUT, 2016-08-06 10:17:19.448 HIS SWORD OUT SLING MY ARM OUT, 2016-08-06 10:17:19.449 SPRAYING BLOOD THROUGH THE 2016-08-06 10:17:19.465 SPRAYING BLOOD THROUGH THE 2016-08-06 10:17:19.466 AUDIENCE. 2016-08-06 10:17:19.451 AUDIENCE. 2016-08-06 10:17:29.55 I WOULD CRAWL STAGE 2016-08-06 10:17:29.535 I WOULD CRAWL STAGE 2016-08-06 10:17:29.552 AND FIND A 2016-08-06 10:17:29.537 AND FIND A 2016-08-06 10:17:29.554 NICE INNOCENT BOY OR GIRL TO 2016-08-06 10:17:29.539 NICE INNOCENT BOY OR GIRL TO 2016-08-06 10:17:29.555 STARE AT. 2016-08-06 10:17:29.54 STARE AT. 2016-08-06 10:17:33.636 AS I DIE. 2016-08-06 10:17:33.623 AS I DIE. 2016-08-06 10:17:35.688 THAT WAS AWESOME. 2016-08-06 10:17:35.673 THAT WAS AWESOME. 2016-08-06 10:17:40.761 YOU FREAKED THOSE BOYS AND GIRLS 2016-08-06 10:17:40.762 OUT FOR LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:17:40.763 CONGRATULATIONS. 2016-08-06 10:17:40.748 YOU FREAKED THOSE BOYS AND GIRLS 2016-08-06 10:17:40.749 OUT FOR LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:17:40.751 CONGRATULATIONS. 2016-08-06 10:17:44.838 WE ARE FINDING A NICHE FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:17:44.823 WE ARE FINDING A NICHE FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:17:50.893 I FOUND YOUR OLD HOOK LOOKING 2016-08-06 10:17:50.894 THING. 2016-08-06 10:17:50.879 I FOUND YOUR OLD HOOK LOOKING 2016-08-06 10:17:50.88 THING. 2016-08-06 10:17:56.89 I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH 2016-08-06 10:17:56.875 I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH 2016-08-06 10:17:57.89 THE DIRECTOR OF SAN ANTONIO. 2016-08-06 10:17:57.875 THE DIRECTOR OF SAN ANTONIO. 2016-08-06 10:17:58.889 HE'S GOING TO DO ANOTHER MUSICAL 2016-08-06 10:17:58.874 HE'S GOING TO DO ANOTHER MUSICAL 2016-08-06 10:17:58.891 ABOUT CAPTAIN HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:17:58.876 ABOUT CAPTAIN HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:18:03.939 DON'T LOOK NOW, YOU ARE CAPTAIN 2016-08-06 10:18:03.924 DON'T LOOK NOW, YOU ARE CAPTAIN 2016-08-06 10:18:03.941 HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:18:03.926 HOOK. 2016-08-06 10:18:06.954 I TOLD YOU YOU WOULD BE A 2016-08-06 10:18:06.97 I TOLD YOU YOU WOULD BE A 2016-08-06 10:18:06.971 PIRATE. 2016-08-06 10:18:06.956 PIRATE. 2016-08-06 10:18:11.049 AFTER THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 10:18:11.034 AFTER THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE 2016-08-06 10:18:11.051 ON TELEVISION. 2016-08-06 10:18:11.036 ON TELEVISION. 2016-08-06 10:18:16.142 THE DREAM 2016-08-06 10:18:16.127 THE DREAM 2016-08-06 10:18:16.144 OF EVERY ACTOR, PRIME 2016-08-06 10:18:16.129 OF EVERY ACTOR, PRIME 2016-08-06 10:18:16.13 TIME TELEVISION. 2016-08-06 10:18:16.149 TIME TELEVISION. 2016-08-06 10:18:20.194 ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PUT THIS 2016-08-06 10:18:20.179 ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PUT THIS 2016-08-06 10:18:20.196 THINGY ON. 2016-08-06 10:18:20.181 THINGY ON. 2016-08-06 10:18:25.213 YOU ARE THE 2016-08-06 10:18:25.198 YOU ARE THE 2016-08-06 10:18:26.217 WOUNDED WARRIOR, YOU 2016-08-06 10:18:26.202 WOUNDED WARRIOR, YOU 2016-08-06 10:18:26.22 ARE THE BUS DRIVER BACK FROM 2016-08-06 10:18:26.205 ARE THE BUS DRIVER BACK FROM 2016-08-06 10:18:26.221 IRAQ. 2016-08-06 10:18:26.206 IRAQ. 2016-08-06 10:18:31.263 IT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS WANTED, 2016-08-06 10:18:31.265 ISN'T IT? 2016-08-06 10:18:31.251 IT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS WANTED, 2016-08-06 10:18:31.253 ISN'T IT? 2016-08-06 10:18:37.338 I THOUGHT IF I WAS ON 2016-08-06 10:18:37.323 I THOUGHT IF I WAS ON 2016-08-06 10:18:37.34 TELEVISION 2016-08-06 10:18:37.325 TELEVISION 2016-08-06 10:18:38.343 I WOULD BE A NORMAL ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:18:38.328 I WOULD BE A NORMAL ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:18:47.391 I WAS ON TELEVISION BECAUSE OF 2016-08-06 10:18:47.376 I WAS ON TELEVISION BECAUSE OF 2016-08-06 10:18:47.392 THIS. 2016-08-06 10:18:47.377 THIS. 2016-08-06 10:18:52.442 EVERYTHING I WAS DOING THIS 2016-08-06 10:18:52.427 EVERYTHING I WAS DOING THIS 2016-08-06 10:18:52.444 BECAUSE OF THIS. 2016-08-06 10:18:52.429 BECAUSE OF THIS. 2016-08-06 10:19:03.551 IF I WANTED TO BE A NORMAL ACTOR 2016-08-06 10:19:03.536 IF I WANTED TO BE A NORMAL ACTOR 2016-08-06 10:19:03.553 MAYBE I DID NEED A LUKE 2016-08-06 10:19:03.538 MAYBE I DID NEED A LUKE 2016-08-06 10:19:03.539 SKYWALKER HAND. 2016-08-06 10:19:03.555 SKYWALKER HAND. 2016-08-06 10:19:08.595 I WENT BACK TO 2016-08-06 10:19:08.58 I WENT BACK TO 2016-08-06 10:19:09.594 THAT ROOM FULL OF 2016-08-06 10:19:09.579 THAT ROOM FULL OF 2016-08-06 10:19:09.597 DOCTORS, I WENT TO THE CHAIR AT 2016-08-06 10:19:09.582 DOCTORS, I WENT TO THE CHAIR AT 2016-08-06 10:19:09.583 THE CENTER OF THE ROOM. 2016-08-06 10:19:09.599 THE CENTER OF THE ROOM. 2016-08-06 10:19:15.592 DR., DR., DR., AND DOCTOR. 2016-08-06 10:19:15.577 DR., DR., DR., AND DOCTOR. 2016-08-06 10:19:20.639 THIS YOUNG MAN HAS A 2016-08-06 10:19:20.625 THIS YOUNG MAN HAS A 2016-08-06 10:19:20.641 MALFORMATION OF HIS RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 10:19:20.627 MALFORMATION OF HIS RIGHT HAND. 2016-08-06 10:19:25.696 HE'S AN ACTOR AND HE WANTS TO 2016-08-06 10:19:25.681 HE'S AN ACTOR AND HE WANTS TO 2016-08-06 10:19:25.682 FEEL NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:19:25.698 FEEL NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:19:27.759 THE ONLY THING THAT SEPARATES US 2016-08-06 10:19:27.744 THE ONLY THING THAT SEPARATES US 2016-08-06 10:19:31.771 FROM THE ANIMALS ARE TWO 2016-08-06 10:19:31.757 FROM THE ANIMALS ARE TWO 2016-08-06 10:19:31.759 OPPOSABLE THUMBS. 2016-08-06 10:19:31.776 OPPOSABLE THUMBS. 2016-08-06 10:19:36.801 SO LET'S GIVE 2016-08-06 10:19:36.786 SO LET'S GIVE 2016-08-06 10:19:38.848 THIS YOUNG MAN 2016-08-06 10:19:38.833 THIS YOUNG MAN 2016-08-06 10:19:38.85 BACK HIS HUMANITY. 2016-08-06 10:19:38.835 BACK HIS HUMANITY. 2016-08-06 10:19:42.906 I WENT DOWN THAT HALLWAY, AND 2016-08-06 10:19:42.891 I WENT DOWN THAT HALLWAY, AND 2016-08-06 10:19:42.908 WENT BACK TO THE BASEMENT. 2016-08-06 10:19:42.893 WENT BACK TO THE BASEMENT. 2016-08-06 10:19:45.89 THE FAMILIAR FEELING OF THE 2016-08-06 10:19:45.875 THE FAMILIAR FEELING OF THE 2016-08-06 10:19:48.891 PLASTER OF PARIS, HEATING IT AS 2016-08-06 10:19:48.876 PLASTER OF PARIS, HEATING IT AS 2016-08-06 10:19:48.892 IT BECAME SOLID. 2016-08-06 10:19:48.878 IT BECAME SOLID. 2016-08-06 10:19:54.94 THIS TIME I WAS 2016-08-06 10:19:54.925 THIS TIME I WAS 2016-08-06 10:19:55.942 FITTED FOR THE 2016-08-06 10:19:55.927 FITTED FOR THE 2016-08-06 10:19:55.944 MOST REALISTIC HAND OF THE 2016-08-06 10:19:55.929 MOST REALISTIC HAND OF THE 2016-08-06 10:19:55.93 MARKET. 2016-08-06 10:19:55.946 MARKET. 2016-08-06 10:20:04.017 THIS TO TWO SOLID FLESH. 2016-08-06 10:20:04.002 THIS TO TWO SOLID FLESH. 2016-08-06 10:20:14.308 DAVEY BOY 2016-08-06 10:20:14.293 DAVEY BOY 2016-08-06 10:20:14.309 , WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 2016-08-06 10:20:14.294 , WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 2016-08-06 10:20:16.305 YOU WANT TO BE NORMAL? 2016-08-06 10:20:16.29 YOU WANT TO BE NORMAL? 2016-08-06 10:20:21.344 NOW YOU 2016-08-06 10:20:21.329 NOW YOU 2016-08-06 10:20:22.394 ARE LIKE 99.9% OF ALL 2016-08-06 10:20:22.379 ARE LIKE 99.9% OF ALL 2016-08-06 10:20:22.396 THE ACTORS IN THE WORLD. 2016-08-06 10:20:22.381 THE ACTORS IN THE WORLD. 2016-08-06 10:20:25.397 THAT IS UNEMPLOYABLE. 2016-08-06 10:20:25.382 THAT IS UNEMPLOYABLE. 2016-08-06 10:20:30.391 I COULD DO READINGS AND ONE ON 2016-08-06 10:20:30.376 I COULD DO READINGS AND ONE ON 2016-08-06 10:20:31.39 ONES OFFER NEW MONEY. 2016-08-06 10:20:31.375 ONES OFFER NEW MONEY. 2016-08-06 10:20:36.393 I CAN BE A NORMAL ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:20:36.378 I CAN BE A NORMAL ACTOR. 2016-08-06 10:20:44.473 I AM NOT MADE TO CORDON AMOROUS 2016-08-06 10:20:44.458 I AM NOT MADE TO CORDON AMOROUS 2016-08-06 10:20:44.475 LOOKING GLASS. 2016-08-06 10:20:44.46 LOOKING GLASS. 2016-08-06 10:21:00.6 I AM NOT 2016-08-06 10:21:00.585 I AM NOT 2016-08-06 10:21:00.586 MADE FOR AN AMOROUS 2016-08-06 10:21:00.602 MADE FOR AN AMOROUS 2016-08-06 10:21:00.603 LOOKING GLASS. 2016-08-06 10:21:00.588 LOOKING GLASS. 2016-08-06 10:21:07.642 I AM -- 2016-08-06 10:21:07.627 I AM -- 2016-08-06 10:21:12.722 NOT LIKE IT'S REALLY JUST 2016-08-06 10:21:12.707 NOT LIKE IT'S REALLY JUST 2016-08-06 10:21:12.723 ACTING. 2016-08-06 10:21:12.709 ACTING. 2016-08-06 10:21:15.791 I WAS ACTING LIKE I HAD TWO 2016-08-06 10:21:15.811 I WAS ACTING LIKE I HAD TWO 2016-08-06 10:21:15.797 HANDS. 2016-08-06 10:21:15.813 HANDS. 2016-08-06 10:21:27.939 CHEATED A FEATURE 2016-08-06 10:21:27.94 . 2016-08-06 10:21:27.925 CHEATED A FEATURE 2016-08-06 10:21:27.926 . 2016-08-06 10:21:32.055 UNFINISHED. 2016-08-06 10:21:32.04 UNFINISHED. 2016-08-06 10:21:36.101 BEFORE MY TIME TO THIS BREATHING 2016-08-06 10:21:36.086 BEFORE MY TIME TO THIS BREATHING 2016-08-06 10:21:36.087 WORLD. 2016-08-06 10:21:36.103 WORLD. 2016-08-06 10:21:42.176 SO LAMELY AND UNFASHIONABLE. 2016-08-06 10:21:42.192 SO LAMELY AND UNFASHIONABLE. 2016-08-06 10:21:42.178 THE DOG SPARK AT ME. 2016-08-06 10:21:42.194 THE DOG SPARK AT ME. 2016-08-06 10:21:48.181 NO DELIGHT PASS AWAY THE TIME. 2016-08-06 10:21:48.197 NO DELIGHT PASS AWAY THE TIME. 2016-08-06 10:21:59.31 AND JUST CANT MY OWN DEFORMITY. 2016-08-06 10:21:59.295 AND JUST CANT MY OWN DEFORMITY. 2016-08-06 10:22:02.309 JUST CAN'T. 2016-08-06 10:22:02.294 JUST CAN'T. 2016-08-06 10:22:08.444 LOOK AT ME, FOOL. 2016-08-06 10:22:08.429 LOOK AT ME, FOOL. 2016-08-06 10:22:17.567 THIS IS YOU. 2016-08-06 10:22:17.552 THIS IS YOU. 2016-08-06 10:22:20.619 AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING NORMAL 2016-08-06 10:22:20.604 AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING NORMAL 2016-08-06 10:22:23.601 ABOUT YOU IT IS THIS. 2016-08-06 10:22:23.586 ABOUT YOU IT IS THIS. 2016-08-06 10:22:28.641 YOU SAY THIS IS 2016-08-06 10:22:28.626 YOU SAY THIS IS 2016-08-06 10:22:29.643 NORMAL THAT I 2016-08-06 10:22:29.628 NORMAL THAT I 2016-08-06 10:22:34.692 HAVE TO BE CREEPY 2016-08-06 10:22:34.677 HAVE TO BE CREEPY 2016-08-06 10:22:34.693 ? 2016-08-06 10:22:34.678 ? 2016-08-06 10:22:35.696 YOU SAY THIS IS NORMAL, I DON'T 2016-08-06 10:22:35.681 YOU SAY THIS IS NORMAL, I DON'T 2016-08-06 10:22:35.698 KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 2016-08-06 10:22:35.683 KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 2016-08-06 10:22:41.767 POP 2016-08-06 10:22:41.752 POP 2016-08-06 10:22:45.768 POP, POP 2016-08-06 10:22:45.753 POP, POP 2016-08-06 10:22:45.769 POP HAS BEEN GONE 2016-08-06 10:22:45.754 POP HAS BEEN GONE 2016-08-06 10:22:46.808 FOR A LONG TIME. 2016-08-06 10:22:46.793 FOR A LONG TIME. 2016-08-06 10:22:46.81 HOW MICHAEL AND ASK HIM? 2016-08-06 10:22:46.795 HOW MICHAEL AND ASK HIM? 2016-08-06 10:22:53.795 IT TO YOUR PLAY. 2016-08-06 10:22:53.811 IT TO YOUR PLAY. 2016-08-06 10:22:56.811 ASK ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE. 2016-08-06 10:22:56.796 ASK ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE. 2016-08-06 10:23:03.797 HERE WE ARE. 2016-08-06 10:23:03.813 HERE WE ARE. 2016-08-06 10:23:08.811 YOU KNOW THAT STORY I TOLD JOE 2016-08-06 10:23:08.796 YOU KNOW THAT STORY I TOLD JOE 2016-08-06 10:23:09.795 THOUGH MY LITTLE LEAGUE 2016-08-06 10:23:09.811 THOUGH MY LITTLE LEAGUE 2016-08-06 10:23:09.797 BASEBALL? 2016-08-06 10:23:09.813 BASEBALL? 2016-08-06 10:23:14.843 THAT WAS JUST A METAPHOR FOR 2016-08-06 10:23:14.859 THAT WAS JUST A METAPHOR FOR 2016-08-06 10:23:14.86 LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:23:14.845 LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:23:16.898 WE ALL PLAY THIS GAME OF LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:23:16.883 WE ALL PLAY THIS GAME OF LIFE. 2016-08-06 10:23:24.005 NO MATTER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE WE 2016-08-06 10:23:24.021 NO MATTER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE WE 2016-08-06 10:23:25.046 FIND OURSELVES IN. 2016-08-06 10:23:25.062 FIND OURSELVES IN. 2016-08-06 10:23:35.249 BE PROUD OF THE CHOICES YOU MADE 2016-08-06 10:23:35.234 BE PROUD OF THE CHOICES YOU MADE 2016-08-06 10:23:37.242 , THIS IS WHO YOU ARE. 2016-08-06 10:23:37.227 , THIS IS WHO YOU ARE. 2016-08-06 10:23:43.243 I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A SONG AND 2016-08-06 10:23:43.229 I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A SONG AND 2016-08-06 10:23:43.245 DANCE MAN. 2016-08-06 10:23:43.23 DANCE MAN. 2016-08-06 10:23:50.256 YOU GET TO DO THIS. 2016-08-06 10:23:50.272 YOU GET TO DO THIS. 2016-08-06 10:24:08.496 THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY 2016-08-06 10:24:08.481 THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY 2016-08-06 10:24:08.498 DIFFERENCES. 2016-08-06 10:24:08.483 DIFFERENCES. 2016-08-06 10:24:20.524 COMPLETELY AND BEAUTIFULLY 2016-08-06 10:24:20.509 COMPLETELY AND BEAUTIFULLY 2016-08-06 10:24:20.526 NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:24:20.511 NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:24:20.528 WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN I'VE BEEN 2016-08-06 10:24:20.513 WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN I'VE BEEN 2016-08-06 10:24:23.604 LOOKING FOR YOU, I HAVE A JOB 2016-08-06 10:24:23.589 LOOKING FOR YOU, I HAVE A JOB 2016-08-06 10:24:24.651 FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:24:24.636 FOR YOU. 2016-08-06 10:24:26.633 LET ME GUESS, A NEW SHARK 2016-08-06 10:24:26.649 LET ME GUESS, A NEW SHARK 2016-08-06 10:24:26.65 VICTIM. 2016-08-06 10:24:26.635 VICTIM. 2016-08-06 10:24:31.63 -- A SHARK VICTIM IN A NEW JAKE 2016-08-06 10:24:31.646 -- A SHARK VICTIM IN A NEW JAKE 2016-08-06 10:24:32.698 JILL AND ALL 3-D SHARK MOVIE. 2016-08-06 10:24:32.683 JILL AND ALL 3-D SHARK MOVIE. 2016-08-06 10:24:36.697 NO, I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH A 2016-08-06 10:24:36.682 NO, I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH A 2016-08-06 10:24:40.746 DIRECTOR AND HE WANTS TO USE YOU 2016-08-06 10:24:40.731 DIRECTOR AND HE WANTS TO USE YOU 2016-08-06 10:24:40.748 IN HIS NEW MOVIE BECAUSE YOU 2016-08-06 10:24:40.733 IN HIS NEW MOVIE BECAUSE YOU 2016-08-06 10:24:40.75 HAVE A HARRY ASKED. 2016-08-06 10:24:40.735 HAVE A HARRY ASKED. 2016-08-06 10:24:45.744 -- HAIRY ASS. 2016-08-06 10:24:45.73 -- HAIRY ASS. 2016-08-06 10:24:49.753 HE SAW YOUR BUSHY EYEBROWS SO HE 2016-08-06 10:24:49.738 HE SAW YOUR BUSHY EYEBROWS SO HE 2016-08-06 10:24:52.778 FIGURES YOU HAVE A HAIRY ASS. 2016-08-06 10:24:52.794 FIGURES YOU HAVE A HAIRY ASS. 2016-08-06 10:24:55.775 SO HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT MY 2016-08-06 10:24:55.76 SO HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT MY 2016-08-06 10:24:55.776 HAND? 2016-08-06 10:24:55.761 HAND? 2016-08-06 10:25:01.774 YES, HE WANTED TO BE THE 2016-08-06 10:25:01.759 YES, HE WANTED TO BE THE 2016-08-06 10:25:03.775 HAIRY THONG GUY. 2016-08-06 10:25:03.76 HAIRY THONG GUY. 2016-08-06 10:25:06.82 THAT'S GOING TO MAKE YOUR MAMA 2016-08-06 10:25:06.805 THAT'S GOING TO MAKE YOUR MAMA 2016-08-06 10:25:06.821 CRY. 2016-08-06 10:25:06.806 CRY. 2016-08-06 10:25:09.858 I KNOW, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO 2016-08-06 10:25:09.843 I KNOW, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO 2016-08-06 10:25:09.86 WITH MY HAND. 2016-08-06 10:25:09.845 WITH MY HAND. 2016-08-06 10:25:14.926 JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HAIR 2016-08-06 10:25:14.911 JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HAIR 2016-08-06 10:25:14.913 LIKE A DONKEY YOU ARE GOING TO 2016-08-06 10:25:14.929 LIKE A DONKEY YOU ARE GOING TO 2016-08-06 10:25:16.859 BE IN A MOVIE. 2016-08-06 10:25:16.844 BE IN A MOVIE. 2016-08-06 10:25:20.899 EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO MAKE 2016-08-06 10:25:20.884 EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO MAKE 2016-08-06 10:25:20.885 YOUR MAMA CRY? 2016-08-06 10:25:20.901 YOUR MAMA CRY? 2016-08-06 10:25:23.905 THAT'S GOING TO BE ON IMDB. 2016-08-06 10:25:23.891 THAT'S GOING TO BE ON IMDB. 2016-08-06 10:25:27.906 I KNOW, BUT I AM RIGHT HERE 2016-08-06 10:25:27.891 I KNOW, BUT I AM RIGHT HERE 2016-08-06 10:25:31.906 RIGHT NOW PLAYING THIS GAME AS 2016-08-06 10:25:31.891 RIGHT NOW PLAYING THIS GAME AS 2016-08-06 10:25:31.908 HARD AS I CAN. 2016-08-06 10:25:31.893 HARD AS I CAN. 2016-08-06 10:25:36.901 THANK YOU. 2016-08-06 10:25:36.886 THANK YOU. 2016-08-06 10:25:39.89 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 10:25:39.906 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 10:26:00.025 THEM THANK 2016-08-06 10:26:00.011 THEM THANK 2016-08-06 10:26:00.027 YOU, DAVID. 2016-08-06 10:26:00.012 YOU, DAVID. 2016-08-06 10:26:00.029 KEEP THE APPLAUSE GOING. 2016-08-06 10:26:00.014 KEEP THE APPLAUSE GOING. 2016-08-06 10:26:04.027 -- >> THANK YOU, DAVID. 2016-08-06 10:26:04.013 -- >> THANK YOU, DAVID. 2016-08-06 10:26:04.029 KEEP THE APPLAUSE GOING. 2016-08-06 10:26:04.015 KEEP THE APPLAUSE GOING. 2016-08-06 10:26:08.109 THAT WAS AMAZING. 2016-08-06 10:26:08.094 THAT WAS AMAZING. 2016-08-06 10:26:09.153 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE TO TALK 2016-08-06 10:26:09.139 THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE TO TALK 2016-08-06 10:26:09.156 ABOUT, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT 2016-08-06 10:26:09.141 ABOUT, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT 2016-08-06 10:26:13.184 EVERYONE WITH ALL KINDS OF 2016-08-06 10:26:13.2 EVERYONE WITH ALL KINDS OF 2016-08-06 10:26:13.202 DIFFERENCES ARE CONSIDERED 2016-08-06 10:26:13.187 DIFFERENCES ARE CONSIDERED 2016-08-06 10:26:14.247 NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:26:14.232 NORMAL. 2016-08-06 10:26:17.247 THEY ARE ON OUR STAGES AND IN 2016-08-06 10:26:17.233 THEY ARE ON OUR STAGES AND IN 2016-08-06 10:26:18.246 OUR THEATERS AND GALLERIES. 2016-08-06 10:26:18.232 OUR THEATERS AND GALLERIES. 2016-08-06 10:26:25.32 I AM WITH THE GREATER PITTSBURGH 2016-08-06 10:26:25.305 I AM WITH THE GREATER PITTSBURGH 2016-08-06 10:26:25.322 ARTS COUNCIL. 2016-08-06 10:26:25.307 ARTS COUNCIL. 2016-08-06 10:26:28.361 GREAT FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FOR 2016-08-06 10:26:28.346 GREAT FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FOR 2016-08-06 10:26:28.363 THOSE WATCHING ONLINE. 2016-08-06 10:26:28.348 THOSE WATCHING ONLINE. 2016-08-06 10:26:32.36 WE ARE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF 2016-08-06 10:26:32.345 WE ARE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF 2016-08-06 10:26:32.361 TRANSITION. 2016-08-06 10:26:32.347 TRANSITION. 2016-08-06 10:26:37.45 I WANTED 2016-08-06 10:26:37.435 I WANTED 2016-08-06 10:26:37.436 TO TALK THROUGH A BIT 2016-08-06 10:26:37.452 TO TALK THROUGH A BIT 2016-08-06 10:26:37.453 OF WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. 2016-08-06 10:26:37.438 OF WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. 2016-08-06 10:26:47.557 MOSTLY IT IS DUE TO 2016-08-06 10:26:47.573 MOSTLY IT IS DUE TO 2016-08-06 10:26:48.571 -- WHO JUST 2016-08-06 10:26:48.556 -- WHO JUST 2016-08-06 10:26:53.653 INTUITIVELY KNOWS 2016-08-06 10:26:53.638 INTUITIVELY KNOWS 2016-08-06 10:26:53.654 JUSTICE HAS 2016-08-06 10:26:53.639 JUSTICE HAS 2016-08-06 10:26:55.653 BEEN A DISABILITY ADVOCATE FOR 2016-08-06 10:26:55.638 BEEN A DISABILITY ADVOCATE FOR 2016-08-06 10:27:00.695 SO LONG AND KNOWS 2016-08-06 10:27:00.68 SO LONG AND KNOWS 2016-08-06 10:27:00.681 THE IMPORTANCE 2016-08-06 10:27:00.697 THE IMPORTANCE 2016-08-06 10:27:02.702 OF THIS CONVERSATION AND HOW 2016-08-06 10:27:02.688 OF THIS CONVERSATION AND HOW 2016-08-06 10:27:07.698 DEEPLY IMPORTANT IT IS TO TALK 2016-08-06 10:27:07.683 DEEPLY IMPORTANT IT IS TO TALK 2016-08-06 10:27:08.698 ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY. 2016-08-06 10:27:08.684 ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY. 2016-08-06 10:27:09.752 WE CAN'T JUST TALK ABOUT 2016-08-06 10:27:09.737 WE CAN'T JUST TALK ABOUT 2016-08-06 10:27:10.781 AUDIENCES AND ACCESS, WHICH IS 2016-08-06 10:27:10.766 AUDIENCES AND ACCESS, WHICH IS 2016-08-06 10:27:10.783 SO IMPORTANT WE ALL KNOW. 2016-08-06 10:27:10.768 SO IMPORTANT WE ALL KNOW. 2016-08-06 10:27:15.865 BUT IF OUR 2016-08-06 10:27:15.85 BUT IF OUR 2016-08-06 10:27:15.866 STAGES DON'T REFLECT 2016-08-06 10:27:15.851 STAGES DON'T REFLECT 2016-08-06 10:27:17.874 ALL PEOPLE, THIS ART WE ARE 2016-08-06 10:27:17.859 ALL PEOPLE, THIS ART WE ARE 2016-08-06 10:27:22.909 DOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD 2016-08-06 10:27:22.894 DOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD 2016-08-06 10:27:28.999 -- 2016-08-06 10:27:28.984 -- 2016-08-06 10:27:29.999 ANOTHER THREAD THAT CAME THROUGH 2016-08-06 10:27:29.984 ANOTHER THREAD THAT CAME THROUGH 2016-08-06 10:27:35.115 WAS JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT IS 2016-08-06 10:27:35.1 WAS JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT IS 2016-08-06 10:27:35.1 TO 2016-08-06 10:27:35.116 TO 2016-08-06 10:27:45.114 CONTINUE TO PUSH YOURSELVES 2016-08-06 10:27:45.1 CONTINUE TO PUSH YOURSELVES 2016-08-06 10:27:48.309 . 2016-08-06 10:27:48.325 . 2016-08-06 10:27:49.323 IT IS AGAIN DIVERSE IN OTHER 2016-08-06 10:27:49.308 IT IS AGAIN DIVERSE IN OTHER 2016-08-06 10:27:49.325 WAYS. 2016-08-06 10:27:49.31 WAYS. 2016-08-06 10:27:54.448 AROUND 2016-08-06 10:27:54.433 AROUND 2016-08-06 10:27:56.533 GENDER, AROUND INCLUSION. 2016-08-06 10:27:56.518 GENDER, AROUND INCLUSION. 2016-08-06 10:28:02.666 WE ARE THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE 2016-08-06 10:28:02.651 WE ARE THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE 2016-08-06 10:28:03.682 IDENTITIES YOU HAVE. 2016-08-06 10:28:03.698 IDENTITIES YOU HAVE. 2016-08-06 10:28:13.826 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 2016-08-06 10:28:13.811 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 2016-08-06 10:28:13.827 YOU PUT 2016-08-06 10:28:13.812 YOU PUT 2016-08-06 10:28:13.829 THAT IN THE SPACE. 2016-08-06 10:28:13.814 THAT IN THE SPACE. 2016-08-06 10:28:15.867 IT TAKES THE TENSION AND IT 2016-08-06 10:28:15.852 IT TAKES THE TENSION AND IT 2016-08-06 10:28:17.912 TAKES TIME AND EFFORT. 2016-08-06 10:28:17.897 TAKES TIME AND EFFORT. 2016-08-06 10:28:22.892 AND ALL OF THE THINGS WE DO AND 2016-08-06 10:28:22.908 AND ALL OF THE THINGS WE DO AND 2016-08-06 10:28:22.894 ACCESS WHERE WE ARE REALLY 2016-08-06 10:28:22.91 ACCESS WHERE WE ARE REALLY 2016-08-06 10:28:25.998 INVITING PEOPLE, CHANGING THE 2016-08-06 10:28:25.983 INVITING PEOPLE, CHANGING THE 2016-08-06 10:28:29.058 CULTURE AND THE WAY WE DO THINGS 2016-08-06 10:28:29.074 CULTURE AND THE WAY WE DO THINGS 2016-08-06 10:28:31.074 SO THAT EVERYONE IS PART OF WHAT 2016-08-06 10:28:31.059 SO THAT EVERYONE IS PART OF WHAT 2016-08-06 10:28:31.075 WE ARE DOING. 2016-08-06 10:28:31.06 WE ARE DOING. 2016-08-06 10:28:33.077 IT IS EXCITING. 2016-08-06 10:28:33.062 IT IS EXCITING. 2016-08-06 10:28:38.141 IT 2016-08-06 10:28:38.157 IT 2016-08-06 10:28:39.16 MAKES OUR LIVES SO MUCH 2016-08-06 10:28:39.145 MAKES OUR LIVES SO MUCH 2016-08-06 10:28:44.236 RICHER THAN IT WOULD BE 2016-08-06 10:28:44.252 RICHER THAN IT WOULD BE 2016-08-06 10:28:44.253 IF WE 2016-08-06 10:28:44.238 IF WE 2016-08-06 10:28:44.254 DID NOT. 2016-08-06 10:28:44.239 DID NOT. 2016-08-06 10:28:45.302 I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THE PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:28:45.287 I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THE PEOPLE 2016-08-06 10:28:47.381 WE HAVE HERE TODAY. 2016-08-06 10:28:47.366 WE HAVE HERE TODAY. 2016-08-06 10:28:49.41 I'M SO EXCITED WE ARE LIVE 2016-08-06 10:28:49.395 I'M SO EXCITED WE ARE LIVE 2016-08-06 10:28:49.412 STREAMING THIS SO IT CAN BE 2016-08-06 10:28:49.397 STREAMING THIS SO IT CAN BE 2016-08-06 10:28:49.413 ARCHIVED. 2016-08-06 10:28:49.398 ARCHIVED. 2016-08-06 10:29:04.617 WE HAVE MOMENTS WHERE IT IS 2016-08-06 10:29:04.602 WE HAVE MOMENTS WHERE IT IS 2016-08-06 10:29:08.661 POSSIBLY WORKING AND WHERE IT IS 2016-08-06 10:29:08.646 POSSIBLY WORKING AND WHERE IT IS 2016-08-06 10:29:08.648 NOT. 2016-08-06 10:29:08.664 NOT. 2016-08-06 10:29:17.661 JUST BEAR WITH US FOR A MOMENT 2016-08-06 10:29:17.646 JUST BEAR WITH US FOR A MOMENT 2016-08-06 10:29:17.663 AND WE LOOK AT STARTED IN A 2016-08-06 10:29:17.648 AND WE LOOK AT STARTED IN A 2016-08-06 10:29:17.664 MINUTE. 2016-08-06 10:29:17.649 MINUTE. 2016-08-06 10:34:59.608 >> HI, EVERYONE. 2016-08-06 10:34:59.593 >> HI, EVERYONE. 2016-08-06 10:35:01.656 WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED. 2016-08-06 10:35:01.641 WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED. 2016-08-06 10:35:02.658 IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE TAKE YOUR 2016-08-06 10:35:02.643 IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE TAKE YOUR 2016-08-06 10:35:04.738 SEATS. 2016-08-06 10:35:04.723 SEATS. 2016-08-06 10:35:07.733 GREAT. 2016-08-06 10:35:07.718 GREAT. 2016-08-06 10:35:12.734 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE FOUND A 2016-08-06 10:35:12.719 AS YOU CAN SEE, WE FOUND A 2016-08-06 10:35:15.733 SOLUTION, THANKS TO THE LOVELY 2016-08-06 10:35:15.719 SOLUTION, THANKS TO THE LOVELY 2016-08-06 10:35:19.733 GENTLEMAN WHO LIFTED REAGAN UP, 2016-08-06 10:35:19.718 GENTLEMAN WHO LIFTED REAGAN UP, 2016-08-06 10:35:24.736 WHICH, BY THE WAY, WAS REAGAN'S 2016-08-06 10:35:24.721 WHICH, BY THE WAY, WAS REAGAN'S 2016-08-06 10:35:24.723 PREFERENCE BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO 2016-08-06 10:35:24.739 PREFERENCE BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO 2016-08-06 10:35:24.725 MAKE SURE ALL OF YOU COULD SEE 2016-08-06 10:35:24.741 MAKE SURE ALL OF YOU COULD SEE 2016-08-06 10:35:28.735 US. 2016-08-06 10:35:28.721 US. 2016-08-06 10:35:28.738 THAT IS HOW WE MAKE STUFF WORK. 2016-08-06 10:35:28.723 THAT IS HOW WE MAKE STUFF WORK. 2016-08-06 10:35:29.739 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 10:35:29.724 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 10:35:34.776 AS ACTORS, THIS WAS NOT 2016-08-06 10:35:34.761 AS ACTORS, THIS WAS NOT 2016-08-06 10:35:34.777 HOW I 2016-08-06 10:35:34.762 HOW I 2016-08-06 10:35:38.777 INTENDED TO START THIS, BUT I 2016-08-06 10:35:38.763 INTENDED TO START THIS, BUT I 2016-08-06 10:35:39.816 WILL START 2016-08-06 10:35:39.801 WILL START 2016-08-06 10:35:41.86 here since it is good place to 2016-08-06 10:35:41.845 here since it is good place to 2016-08-06 10:35:41.862 start it. 2016-08-06 10:35:41.847 start it. 2016-08-06 10:35:45.861 As disabled actors, it is a 2016-08-06 10:35:45.846 As disabled actors, it is a 2016-08-06 10:35:45.863 constant negotiation for us. 2016-08-06 10:35:45.848 constant negotiation for us. 2016-08-06 10:35:49.907 You just saw that inaction. 2016-08-06 10:35:49.892 You just saw that inaction. 2016-08-06 10:35:52.907 Thank you, Reagan. 2016-08-06 10:35:52.892 Thank you, Reagan. 2016-08-06 10:35:56.959 I am going to start by 2016-08-06 10:35:56.944 I am going to start by 2016-08-06 10:36:00.958 introducing myself and my 2016-08-06 10:36:00.944 introducing myself and my 2016-08-06 10:36:00.961 esteemed colleagues and tell you 2016-08-06 10:36:00.946 esteemed colleagues and tell you 2016-08-06 10:36:03.957 a little bit about inclusion in 2016-08-06 10:36:03.942 a little bit about inclusion in 2016-08-06 10:36:07.985 the arts. 2016-08-06 10:36:07.97 the arts. 2016-08-06 10:36:12.987 David, you just saw, his amazing 2016-08-06 10:36:12.972 David, you just saw, his amazing 2016-08-06 10:36:13.997 performance, my name is 2016-08-06 10:36:13.982 performance, my name is 2016-08-06 10:36:15.986 Christine Bruno. 2016-08-06 10:36:15.971 Christine Bruno. 2016-08-06 10:36:19.987 I am an actor. 2016-08-06 10:36:19.972 I am an actor. 2016-08-06 10:36:22.028 I am also a disability advocate 2016-08-06 10:36:22.013 I am also a disability advocate 2016-08-06 10:36:24.03 for an organization called 2016-08-06 10:36:24.015 for an organization called 2016-08-06 10:36:24.032 inclusion in the arts. 2016-08-06 10:36:24.017 inclusion in the arts. 2016-08-06 10:36:27.014 We are a nonprofit based in New 2016-08-06 10:36:27.03 We are a nonprofit based in New 2016-08-06 10:36:27.031 York City. 2016-08-06 10:36:27.016 York City. 2016-08-06 10:36:31.015 In a net shell, I reason for 2016-08-06 10:36:31.031 In a net shell, I reason for 2016-08-06 10:36:34.03 existence is to promote the full 2016-08-06 10:36:34.015 existence is to promote the full 2016-08-06 10:36:37.029 inclusion of actors of color and 2016-08-06 10:36:37.015 inclusion of actors of color and 2016-08-06 10:36:41.031 actors with his in film, 2016-08-06 10:36:41.016 actors with his in film, 2016-08-06 10:36:43.031 theater, television and related 2016-08-06 10:36:43.016 theater, television and related 2016-08-06 10:36:43.033 industries. 2016-08-06 10:36:43.018 industries. 2016-08-06 10:36:49.031 We have been around for 30 2016-08-06 10:36:49.016 We have been around for 30 2016-08-06 10:36:49.032 years. 2016-08-06 10:36:49.017 years. 2016-08-06 10:36:50.029 We were originally founded in 2016-08-06 10:36:50.014 We were originally founded in 2016-08-06 10:36:53.03 1986 to address problems of 2016-08-06 10:36:53.015 1986 to address problems of 2016-08-06 10:36:54.03 racism and exclusion in the 2016-08-06 10:36:54.015 racism and exclusion in the 2016-08-06 10:36:58.03 industry, and our current 2016-08-06 10:36:58.015 industry, and our current 2016-08-06 10:37:00.029 executive director, Sharon 2016-08-06 10:37:00.014 executive director, Sharon 2016-08-06 10:37:05.03 Jenson, when she came on board 2016-08-06 10:37:05.015 Jenson, when she came on board 2016-08-06 10:37:06.031 in 1989, felt it was important 2016-08-06 10:37:06.016 in 1989, felt it was important 2016-08-06 10:37:11.032 to add disability to that 2016-08-06 10:37:11.017 to add disability to that 2016-08-06 10:37:11.034 diversity conversation. 2016-08-06 10:37:11.019 diversity conversation. 2016-08-06 10:37:14.032 Basically, essentially poured 2016-08-06 10:37:14.018 Basically, essentially poured 2016-08-06 10:37:14.034 the entire life of our 2016-08-06 10:37:14.019 the entire life of our 2016-08-06 10:37:16.031 organization, disability has 2016-08-06 10:37:16.016 organization, disability has 2016-08-06 10:37:19.074 played in integral role in any 2016-08-06 10:37:19.059 played in integral role in any 2016-08-06 10:37:22.294 conversation that we have about 2016-08-06 10:37:22.279 conversation that we have about 2016-08-06 10:37:22.295 diversity. 2016-08-06 10:37:22.281 diversity. 2016-08-06 10:37:24.113 Quickly, a little bit about what 2016-08-06 10:37:24.099 Quickly, a little bit about what 2016-08-06 10:37:28.114 David and I do, I started in the 2016-08-06 10:37:28.099 David and I do, I started in the 2016-08-06 10:37:30.114 organization in 2005 because 2016-08-06 10:37:30.099 organization in 2005 because 2016-08-06 10:37:33.115 Sharon felt, rightly so, that 2016-08-06 10:37:33.1 Sharon felt, rightly so, that 2016-08-06 10:37:36.114 disability was -- while the 2016-08-06 10:37:36.099 disability was -- while the 2016-08-06 10:37:37.114 conversation of race and 2016-08-06 10:37:37.099 conversation of race and 2016-08-06 10:37:41.115 ethnicity was moving forward by 2016-08-06 10:37:41.1 ethnicity was moving forward by 2016-08-06 10:37:50.115 the time I started in 2001 2016-08-06 10:37:50.1 the time I started in 2001 2016-08-06 10:37:50.116 , 2016-08-06 10:37:50.101 , 2016-08-06 10:37:51.104 2005, the conversation about 2016-08-06 10:37:51.12 2005, the conversation about 2016-08-06 10:37:51.106 race and ethnicity had moved 2016-08-06 10:37:51.122 race and ethnicity had moved 2016-08-06 10:37:53.116 significantly forward. 2016-08-06 10:37:53.101 significantly forward. 2016-08-06 10:37:55.161 As we know, there is still a lot 2016-08-06 10:37:55.146 As we know, there is still a lot 2016-08-06 10:37:55.147 of work to do. 2016-08-06 10:37:55.163 of work to do. 2016-08-06 10:37:59.161 The conversation about 2016-08-06 10:37:59.146 The conversation about 2016-08-06 10:38:01.16 disability had not moved forward 2016-08-06 10:38:01.145 disability had not moved forward 2016-08-06 10:38:01.161 . 2016-08-06 10:38:01.147 . 2016-08-06 10:38:03.159 She felt like they really needed 2016-08-06 10:38:03.146 She felt like they really needed 2016-08-06 10:38:08.159 to be a specific person in place 2016-08-06 10:38:08.144 to be a specific person in place 2016-08-06 10:38:10.21 to sort of help usher 2016-08-06 10:38:10.195 to sort of help usher 2016-08-06 10:38:10.212 decision-makers into working 2016-08-06 10:38:10.197 decision-makers into working 2016-08-06 10:38:13.195 with our disabilities and 2016-08-06 10:38:13.211 with our disabilities and 2016-08-06 10:38:17.241 whatever that entails from 2016-08-06 10:38:17.226 whatever that entails from 2016-08-06 10:38:20.242 casting referrals, to consulting 2016-08-06 10:38:20.227 casting referrals, to consulting 2016-08-06 10:38:22.362 about scripts, consulting about 2016-08-06 10:38:22.378 about scripts, consulting about 2016-08-06 10:38:25.367 accessibility issues, accessible 2016-08-06 10:38:25.352 accessibility issues, accessible 2016-08-06 10:38:29.366 audition spaces, hiring 2016-08-06 10:38:29.351 audition spaces, hiring 2016-08-06 10:38:30.367 interpreters, and about 2016-08-06 10:38:30.353 interpreters, and about 2016-08-06 10:38:33.366 dispelling myths and assumptions 2016-08-06 10:38:33.351 dispelling myths and assumptions 2016-08-06 10:38:34.368 of what artists with 2016-08-06 10:38:34.353 of what artists with 2016-08-06 10:38:34.37 disabilities are capable of in 2016-08-06 10:38:34.355 disabilities are capable of in 2016-08-06 10:38:34.372 general. 2016-08-06 10:38:34.357 general. 2016-08-06 10:38:37.376 That sort of days the mind 2016-08-06 10:38:37.361 That sort of days the mind 2016-08-06 10:38:38.367 function. 2016-08-06 10:38:38.352 function. 2016-08-06 10:38:42.368 -- sort of is the mind function. 2016-08-06 10:38:42.353 -- sort of is the mind function. 2016-08-06 10:38:46.367 David came on in 2009 and he is 2016-08-06 10:38:46.352 David came on in 2009 and he is 2016-08-06 10:38:50.366 the programming associate, so 2016-08-06 10:38:50.351 the programming associate, so 2016-08-06 10:38:53.371 our job together is to 2016-08-06 10:38:53.356 our job together is to 2016-08-06 10:38:56.41 increase the opportunities for 2016-08-06 10:38:56.395 increase the opportunities for 2016-08-06 10:38:59.413 artists with disabilities on 2016-08-06 10:38:59.398 artists with disabilities on 2016-08-06 10:38:59.404 stages, screens. 2016-08-06 10:38:59.42 stages, screens. 2016-08-06 10:39:01.445 I would say about 60% of our job 2016-08-06 10:39:01.461 I would say about 60% of our job 2016-08-06 10:39:04.46 is casting referrals, meaning we 2016-08-06 10:39:04.445 is casting referrals, meaning we 2016-08-06 10:39:09.462 get calls from casting directors 2016-08-06 10:39:09.447 get calls from casting directors 2016-08-06 10:39:09.464 , decision-makers looking for 2016-08-06 10:39:09.449 , decision-makers looking for 2016-08-06 10:39:12.46 talent with disabilities for 2016-08-06 10:39:12.445 talent with disabilities for 2016-08-06 10:39:12.462 specific jobs. 2016-08-06 10:39:12.447 specific jobs. 2016-08-06 10:39:19.51 Other 40% is things like 2016-08-06 10:39:19.495 Other 40% is things like 2016-08-06 10:39:19.511 this, 2016-08-06 10:39:19.497 this, 2016-08-06 10:39:20.511 our advocacy, going out into 2016-08-06 10:39:20.496 our advocacy, going out into 2016-08-06 10:39:23.512 communities, speaking at great 2016-08-06 10:39:23.497 communities, speaking at great 2016-08-06 10:39:24.509 conferences like these and 2016-08-06 10:39:24.494 conferences like these and 2016-08-06 10:39:27.539 others, just making people more 2016-08-06 10:39:27.524 others, just making people more 2016-08-06 10:39:29.579 aware. 2016-08-06 10:39:29.564 aware. 2016-08-06 10:39:34.563 I think strides have been made, 2016-08-06 10:39:34.579 I think strides have been made, 2016-08-06 10:39:35.58 as it can see from the increase 2016-08-06 10:39:35.565 as it can see from the increase 2016-08-06 10:39:38.603 in the participation. 2016-08-06 10:39:38.619 in the participation. 2016-08-06 10:39:43.62 Betty, did we say up to 450? 2016-08-06 10:39:43.605 Betty, did we say up to 450? 2016-08-06 10:39:47.621 470. 2016-08-06 10:39:47.606 470. 2016-08-06 10:39:47.623 That is amazing. 2016-08-06 10:39:47.608 That is amazing. 2016-08-06 10:39:52.662 I conversation here 2016-08-06 10:39:52.647 I conversation here 2016-08-06 10:39:52.663 today, like 2016-08-06 10:39:52.648 today, like 2016-08-06 10:39:54.662 Tiffany said, is to speak not 2016-08-06 10:39:54.647 Tiffany said, is to speak not 2016-08-06 10:39:58.662 necessarily to an audience 2016-08-06 10:39:58.647 necessarily to an audience 2016-08-06 10:40:01.663 participation, but to the artist 2016-08-06 10:40:01.648 participation, but to the artist 2016-08-06 10:40:03.665 with disabilities components and 2016-08-06 10:40:03.65 with disabilities components and 2016-08-06 10:40:07.665 getting artists on our stages. 2016-08-06 10:40:07.65 getting artists on our stages. 2016-08-06 10:40:07.667 We are so lucky today to have 2016-08-06 10:40:07.652 We are so lucky today to have 2016-08-06 10:40:09.663 Reagan. 2016-08-06 10:40:09.648 Reagan. 2016-08-06 10:40:13.77 I do not know for those of you 2016-08-06 10:40:13.755 I do not know for those of you 2016-08-06 10:40:13.772 who were here Thursday night, 2016-08-06 10:40:13.757 who were here Thursday night, 2016-08-06 10:40:15.79 but you sought Reagan's amazing 2016-08-06 10:40:15.775 but you sought Reagan's amazing 2016-08-06 10:40:15.792 performance. 2016-08-06 10:40:15.777 performance. 2016-08-06 10:40:20.788 REgan is here to speak about her 2016-08-06 10:40:20.774 REgan is here to speak about her 2016-08-06 10:40:21.789 work as an actor, specifically 2016-08-06 10:40:21.774 work as an actor, specifically 2016-08-06 10:40:23.774 around with Oregon Shakespeare 2016-08-06 10:40:23.79 around with Oregon Shakespeare 2016-08-06 10:40:25.789 Festival, and this is JULIE 2016-08-06 10:40:25.774 Festival, and this is JULIE 2016-08-06 10:40:25.791 SIMON 2016-08-06 10:40:25.776 SIMON 2016-08-06 10:40:27.791 from the Shakespeare Festival. 2016-08-06 10:40:27.776 from the Shakespeare Festival. 2016-08-06 10:40:30.79 You are at access coordinator, 2016-08-06 10:40:30.775 You are at access coordinator, 2016-08-06 10:40:33.79 so we will just have an informal 2016-08-06 10:40:33.775 so we will just have an informal 2016-08-06 10:40:36.829 conversation with julie and 2016-08-06 10:40:36.814 conversation with julie and 2016-08-06 10:40:39.831 regan and then I open it up to 2016-08-06 10:40:39.817 regan and then I open it up to 2016-08-06 10:40:39.833 questions. 2016-08-06 10:40:39.819 questions. 2016-08-06 10:40:41.839 I had a great conversation with 2016-08-06 10:40:41.824 I had a great conversation with 2016-08-06 10:40:47.875 julie and 2016-08-06 10:40:47.86 julie and 2016-08-06 10:40:48.858 regan 1.5 weeks ago 2016-08-06 10:40:48.874 regan 1.5 weeks ago 2016-08-06 10:40:48.876 about their specific experiences 2016-08-06 10:40:48.861 about their specific experiences 2016-08-06 10:40:51.873 on working with this and how to 2016-08-06 10:40:51.858 on working with this and how to 2016-08-06 10:40:54.874 navigate that landscape with 2016-08-06 10:40:54.859 navigate that landscape with 2016-08-06 10:40:56.856 being an artist a disability in 2016-08-06 10:40:56.872 being an artist a disability in 2016-08-06 10:40:59.877 a major theatrical institution 2016-08-06 10:40:59.862 a major theatrical institution 2016-08-06 10:41:02.873 that has a long and 2016-08-06 10:41:02.858 that has a long and 2016-08-06 10:41:06.872 distinguished history of working 2016-08-06 10:41:06.857 distinguished history of working 2016-08-06 10:41:10.916 with artists and bringing 2016-08-06 10:41:10.901 with artists and bringing 2016-08-06 10:41:16.013 disabled artist into the 2016-08-06 10:41:15.998 disabled artist into the 2016-08-06 10:41:16.014 folds, 2016-08-06 10:41:15.999 folds, 2016-08-06 10:41:16.016 so we will talk a little bit 2016-08-06 10:41:16.001 so we will talk a little bit 2016-08-06 10:41:16.021 about that. 2016-08-06 10:41:16.006 about that. 2016-08-06 10:41:19.012 I would like to start -- excuse 2016-08-06 10:41:18.997 I would like to start -- excuse 2016-08-06 10:41:23.012 me, my research, I found that 2016-08-06 10:41:22.997 me, my research, I found that 2016-08-06 10:41:29.041 OFS 2016-08-06 10:41:29.026 OFS 2016-08-06 10:41:29.027 has a value statement on 2016-08-06 10:41:29.043 has a value statement on 2016-08-06 10:41:32.043 their website, and they have 1, 2016-08-06 10:41:32.028 their website, and they have 1, 2016-08-06 10:41:36.045 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 core principles, 2016-08-06 10:41:36.03 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 core principles, 2016-08-06 10:41:36.047 and I will redo the core 2016-08-06 10:41:36.032 and I will redo the core 2016-08-06 10:41:36.048 principles. 2016-08-06 10:41:36.033 principles. 2016-08-06 10:41:42.043 They are, excellence, 2016-08-06 10:41:42.028 They are, excellence, 2016-08-06 10:41:42.044 inclusion, 2016-08-06 10:41:42.029 inclusion, 2016-08-06 10:41:45.084 learning, financial health, 2016-08-06 10:41:45.069 learning, financial health, 2016-08-06 10:41:45.086 heritage, environmental 2016-08-06 10:41:45.071 heritage, environmental 2016-08-06 10:41:47.166 responsibility, and company. 2016-08-06 10:41:47.151 responsibility, and company. 2016-08-06 10:41:50.153 They say these are the values we 2016-08-06 10:41:50.169 They say these are the values we 2016-08-06 10:41:53.153 hold at the Oregon Shakespeare 2016-08-06 10:41:53.169 hold at the Oregon Shakespeare 2016-08-06 10:41:53.17 Festival. 2016-08-06 10:41:53.155 Festival. 2016-08-06 10:41:54.167 They are the center of 2016-08-06 10:41:54.153 They are the center of 2016-08-06 10:41:58.169 everything we do and describe 2016-08-06 10:41:58.154 everything we do and describe 2016-08-06 10:42:00.169 how we work together. 2016-08-06 10:42:00.154 how we work together. 2016-08-06 10:42:00.171 While he recognize the need for 2016-08-06 10:42:00.156 While he recognize the need for 2016-08-06 10:42:03.169 balance, his values guide us in 2016-08-06 10:42:03.154 balance, his values guide us in 2016-08-06 10:42:03.171 all of our decisions. 2016-08-06 10:42:03.156 all of our decisions. 2016-08-06 10:42:09.152 I will redo their -- 2016-08-06 10:42:09.168 I will redo their -- 2016-08-06 10:42:11.168 Read you 2016-08-06 10:42:11.153 Read you 2016-08-06 10:42:14.169 there conversation. 2016-08-06 10:42:14.154 there conversation. 2016-08-06 10:42:17.172 We believe the inclusion of 2016-08-06 10:42:17.157 We believe the inclusion of 2016-08-06 10:42:22.263 diversity of people, 2016-08-06 10:42:22.248 diversity of people, 2016-08-06 10:42:22.264 ideas, 2016-08-06 10:42:22.249 ideas, 2016-08-06 10:42:24.265 cultures, and it enriches both 2016-08-06 10:42:24.25 cultures, and it enriches both 2016-08-06 10:42:24.267 their insights into the work we 2016-08-06 10:42:24.252 their insights into the work we 2016-08-06 10:42:26.254 present on stage and our 2016-08-06 10:42:26.27 present on stage and our 2016-08-06 10:42:26.272 relationships with each other. 2016-08-06 10:42:26.257 relationships with each other. 2016-08-06 10:42:32.267 If anyone has ever been to 2016-08-06 10:42:32.252 If anyone has ever been to 2016-08-06 10:42:34.265 OSF, 2016-08-06 10:42:34.25 OSF, 2016-08-06 10:42:34.268 and I'm sure you all know about 2016-08-06 10:42:34.253 and I'm sure you all know about 2016-08-06 10:42:39.294 OSF, 2016-08-06 10:42:39.279 OSF, 2016-08-06 10:42:39.296 in doing my research, I 2016-08-06 10:42:39.281 in doing my research, I 2016-08-06 10:42:43.295 found that they have actually 2016-08-06 10:42:43.28 found that they have actually 2016-08-06 10:42:45.336 done a significant amount of 2016-08-06 10:42:45.321 done a significant amount of 2016-08-06 10:42:45.323 work around issues of diversity 2016-08-06 10:42:45.339 work around issues of diversity 2016-08-06 10:42:49.379 and inclusion in recent years. 2016-08-06 10:42:49.364 and inclusion in recent years. 2016-08-06 10:42:49.381 These are just some of the 2016-08-06 10:42:49.366 These are just some of the 2016-08-06 10:42:53.421 things that they have done. 2016-08-06 10:42:53.406 things that they have done. 2016-08-06 10:42:55.42 Like I just read the value 2016-08-06 10:42:55.405 Like I just read the value 2016-08-06 10:42:55.421 statement. 2016-08-06 10:42:55.406 statement. 2016-08-06 10:42:59.422 They have an audience 2016-08-06 10:42:59.407 They have an audience 2016-08-06 10:42:59.424 development manifesto, which 2016-08-06 10:42:59.409 development manifesto, which 2016-08-06 10:42:59.425 they developed in 2010. 2016-08-06 10:42:59.41 they developed in 2010. 2016-08-06 10:43:01.42 And I write about that? 2016-08-06 10:43:01.405 And I write about that? 2016-08-06 10:43:04.421 -- right about that? 2016-08-06 10:43:04.406 -- right about that? 2016-08-06 10:43:08.422 They have a disability inclusion 2016-08-06 10:43:08.408 They have a disability inclusion 2016-08-06 10:43:08.424 planning Council. 2016-08-06 10:43:08.409 planning Council. 2016-08-06 10:43:11.406 They hired the diversity 2016-08-06 10:43:11.422 They hired the diversity 2016-08-06 10:43:11.423 consultant. 2016-08-06 10:43:11.408 consultant. 2016-08-06 10:43:18.42 They 2016-08-06 10:43:18.405 They 2016-08-06 10:43:20.423 created a coronation 2016-08-06 10:43:20.408 created a coronation 2016-08-06 10:43:20.425 expert, and how long have they 2016-08-06 10:43:20.41 expert, and how long have they 2016-08-06 10:43:21.42 had that? 2016-08-06 10:43:21.405 had that? 2016-08-06 10:43:26.464 Julie: 2016-08-06 10:43:26.449 Julie: 2016-08-06 10:43:26.466 I think the have had an 2016-08-06 10:43:26.451 I think the have had an 2016-08-06 10:43:28.467 access coordinator position for 2016-08-06 10:43:28.452 access coordinator position for 2016-08-06 10:43:29.466 quite a while but it was 2016-08-06 10:43:29.451 quite a while but it was 2016-08-06 10:43:31.514 part-time and has grown. 2016-08-06 10:43:31.504 part-time and has grown. 2016-08-06 10:43:35.515 Christine: the established 2016-08-06 10:43:35.501 Christine: the established 2016-08-06 10:43:38.515 action committees, access 2016-08-06 10:43:38.5 action committees, access 2016-08-06 10:43:41.515 committees for audiences, 2016-08-06 10:43:41.5 committees for audiences, 2016-08-06 10:43:45.515 affinity groups, the development 2016-08-06 10:43:45.5 affinity groups, the development 2016-08-06 10:43:49.548 of the open dialogue series, and 2016-08-06 10:43:49.533 of the open dialogue series, and 2016-08-06 10:43:49.55 what we talk about today, the 2016-08-06 10:43:49.535 what we talk about today, the 2016-08-06 10:43:52.551 hiring of death and disabled 2016-08-06 10:43:52.536 hiring of death and disabled 2016-08-06 10:43:53.588 artist on stage and behind the 2016-08-06 10:43:53.574 artist on stage and behind the 2016-08-06 10:43:57.63 stage in artistic decisions. 2016-08-06 10:43:57.615 stage in artistic decisions. 2016-08-06 10:44:02.632 If you just go down that list, 2016-08-06 10:44:02.617 If you just go down that list, 2016-08-06 10:44:04.632 that is pretty impressive 2016-08-06 10:44:04.617 that is pretty impressive 2016-08-06 10:44:07.63 commitment. 2016-08-06 10:44:07.615 commitment. 2016-08-06 10:44:10.632 Two issues of diversity and 2016-08-06 10:44:10.617 Two issues of diversity and 2016-08-06 10:44:11.63 inclusion, and I would like 2016-08-06 10:44:11.615 inclusion, and I would like 2016-08-06 10:44:17.674 Julie and 2016-08-06 10:44:17.659 Julie and 2016-08-06 10:44:17.66 Regan to talk about 2016-08-06 10:44:17.676 Regan to talk about 2016-08-06 10:44:21.674 their experiences working at OSF 2016-08-06 10:44:21.66 their experiences working at OSF 2016-08-06 10:44:21.676 . 2016-08-06 10:44:21.661 . 2016-08-06 10:44:22.675 The first in our like to know is 2016-08-06 10:44:22.66 The first in our like to know is 2016-08-06 10:44:23.715 how did both of you come to work 2016-08-06 10:44:23.7 how did both of you come to work 2016-08-06 10:44:25.715 at OSF? 2016-08-06 10:44:25.7 at OSF? 2016-08-06 10:44:30.716 We will start with Julie. 2016-08-06 10:44:30.701 We will start with Julie. 2016-08-06 10:44:33.716 Julie: good morning. 2016-08-06 10:44:33.701 Julie: good morning. 2016-08-06 10:44:34.717 I became the access port Nader 2016-08-06 10:44:34.702 I became the access port Nader 2016-08-06 10:44:37.717 in March, though, this is my 2016-08-06 10:44:37.702 in March, though, this is my 2016-08-06 10:44:40.717 seventh season with OSF. 2016-08-06 10:44:40.702 seventh season with OSF. 2016-08-06 10:44:42.768 The first five seasons, I was 2016-08-06 10:44:42.753 The first five seasons, I was 2016-08-06 10:44:42.758 the lead interpreter for the 2016-08-06 10:44:42.775 the lead interpreter for the 2016-08-06 10:44:43.816 deaf factor in the company 2016-08-06 10:44:43.801 deaf factor in the company 2016-08-06 10:44:46.817 during his or her sows, but I 2016-08-06 10:44:46.802 during his or her sows, but I 2016-08-06 10:44:47.815 have also been a patron for over 2016-08-06 10:44:47.801 have also been a patron for over 2016-08-06 10:44:47.817 30 years. 2016-08-06 10:44:47.802 30 years. 2016-08-06 10:44:50.817 That is how I came to know about 2016-08-06 10:44:50.802 That is how I came to know about 2016-08-06 10:44:51.8 OSF. 2016-08-06 10:44:51.816 OSF. 2016-08-06 10:44:56.886 As access services coordinator, 2016-08-06 10:44:56.871 As access services coordinator, 2016-08-06 10:44:59.884 most of my job is outward 2016-08-06 10:44:59.869 most of my job is outward 2016-08-06 10:44:59.885 facing. 2016-08-06 10:44:59.87 facing. 2016-08-06 10:44:59.887 I work with patrons. 2016-08-06 10:44:59.872 I work with patrons. 2016-08-06 10:45:02.884 We provide audio description, 2016-08-06 10:45:02.869 We provide audio description, 2016-08-06 10:45:05.883 open captioning, interpretive 2016-08-06 10:45:05.868 open captioning, interpretive 2016-08-06 10:45:06.883 performances, working with 2016-08-06 10:45:06.869 performances, working with 2016-08-06 10:45:08.884 patrons who have disability 2016-08-06 10:45:08.869 patrons who have disability 2016-08-06 10:45:12.885 issues and work mostly with the 2016-08-06 10:45:12.87 issues and work mostly with the 2016-08-06 10:45:12.887 box office commission that 2016-08-06 10:45:12.872 box office commission that 2016-08-06 10:45:14.886 patrons are seated where they 2016-08-06 10:45:14.871 patrons are seated where they 2016-08-06 10:45:16.884 can enjoy the performances. 2016-08-06 10:45:16.869 can enjoy the performances. 2016-08-06 10:45:22.883 At OSF, as 2016-08-06 10:45:22.868 At OSF, as 2016-08-06 10:45:23.886 Christine mentioned, 2016-08-06 10:45:23.871 Christine mentioned, 2016-08-06 10:45:23.888 we have the audience development 2016-08-06 10:45:23.873 we have the audience development 2016-08-06 10:45:23.889 manifesto. 2016-08-06 10:45:23.874 manifesto. 2016-08-06 10:45:27.927 We have open dialogue forums, 2016-08-06 10:45:27.912 We have open dialogue forums, 2016-08-06 10:45:29.927 which occur every two weeks on 2016-08-06 10:45:29.912 which occur every two weeks on 2016-08-06 10:45:31.911 various topics around access 2016-08-06 10:45:31.927 various topics around access 2016-08-06 10:45:36.927 disability, diversity inclusion 2016-08-06 10:45:36.912 disability, diversity inclusion 2016-08-06 10:45:38.927 for all aspects of the company. 2016-08-06 10:45:38.912 for all aspects of the company. 2016-08-06 10:45:42.915 We do not necessarily have one 2016-08-06 10:45:42.931 We do not necessarily have one 2016-08-06 10:45:42.921 person the company who deals 2016-08-06 10:45:42.937 person the company who deals 2016-08-06 10:45:45.928 with accessibility for company 2016-08-06 10:45:45.913 with accessibility for company 2016-08-06 10:45:48.913 members, but there are a number 2016-08-06 10:45:48.929 members, but there are a number 2016-08-06 10:45:49.927 of us in the company who do work 2016-08-06 10:45:49.912 of us in the company who do work 2016-08-06 10:45:54.928 on that as part of our jobs. 2016-08-06 10:45:54.913 on that as part of our jobs. 2016-08-06 10:46:00.017 Christine: 2016-08-06 10:46:00.002 Christine: 2016-08-06 10:46:00.018 you have another 2016-08-06 10:46:00.003 you have another 2016-08-06 10:46:02.018 component to your job, which is 2016-08-06 10:46:02.003 component to your job, which is 2016-08-06 10:46:04.018 it your job as axis court Nader. 2016-08-06 10:46:04.003 it your job as axis court Nader. 2016-08-06 10:46:07.019 Could you talk about you working 2016-08-06 10:46:07.004 Could you talk about you working 2016-08-06 10:46:10.067 with Howie? 2016-08-06 10:46:10.052 with Howie? 2016-08-06 10:46:12.068 Julie: the first five seasons I 2016-08-06 10:46:12.053 Julie: the first five seasons I 2016-08-06 10:46:17.071 was at OSF, I was the lead 2016-08-06 10:46:17.056 was at OSF, I was the lead 2016-08-06 10:46:17.073 interpreter, side to have 2016-08-06 10:46:17.058 interpreter, side to have 2016-08-06 10:46:17.059 perspective from the company 2016-08-06 10:46:17.075 perspective from the company 2016-08-06 10:46:19.068 side. 2016-08-06 10:46:19.053 side. 2016-08-06 10:46:24.068 When Howie was offered a 2016-08-06 10:46:24.054 When Howie was offered a 2016-08-06 10:46:24.07 contract, the artistic team 2016-08-06 10:46:24.056 contract, the artistic team 2016-08-06 10:46:28.138 realized they needed to hire 2016-08-06 10:46:28.123 realized they needed to hire 2016-08-06 10:46:28.124 interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:46:28.14 interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:46:35.179 He started in 2009 and my first 2016-08-06 10:46:35.164 He started in 2009 and my first 2016-08-06 10:46:39.18 -- we worked closely with the 2016-08-06 10:46:39.165 -- we worked closely with the 2016-08-06 10:46:41.18 costume department to make sure 2016-08-06 10:46:41.166 costume department to make sure 2016-08-06 10:46:43.181 that his needs were met in terms 2016-08-06 10:46:43.166 that his needs were met in terms 2016-08-06 10:46:46.163 of communication. 2016-08-06 10:46:46.179 of communication. 2016-08-06 10:46:48.179 Part of the commitment to 2016-08-06 10:46:48.165 Part of the commitment to 2016-08-06 10:46:50.185 diversity around hiring death 2016-08-06 10:46:50.17 diversity around hiring death 2016-08-06 10:46:55.22 artists -- deaf artists 2016-08-06 10:46:55.205 artists -- deaf artists 2016-08-06 10:46:55.221 is 2016-08-06 10:46:55.206 is 2016-08-06 10:46:59.222 hiring interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:46:59.21 hiring interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:47:00.222 For the first couple of seasons, 2016-08-06 10:47:00.207 For the first couple of seasons, 2016-08-06 10:47:05.21 OSF relied on local 2016-08-06 10:47:05.212 interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:47:05.232 OSF relied 2016-08-06 10:47:05.233 on local 2016-08-06 10:47:05.234 interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:47:07.224 If any of you have been to 2016-08-06 10:47:07.209 If any of you have been to 2016-08-06 10:47:08.223 Ashland, Oregon, we are in the 2016-08-06 10:47:08.208 Ashland, Oregon, we are in the 2016-08-06 10:47:08.225 southern part of the state and 2016-08-06 10:47:08.21 southern part of the state and 2016-08-06 10:47:09.207 it is very rural. 2016-08-06 10:47:09.223 it is very rural. 2016-08-06 10:47:12.349 We have a small local deaf 2016-08-06 10:47:12.334 We have a small local deaf 2016-08-06 10:47:14.222 community and a small 2016-08-06 10:47:14.207 community and a small 2016-08-06 10:47:15.222 interpreting community. 2016-08-06 10:47:15.207 interpreting community. 2016-08-06 10:47:20.223 Howie's first season, they 2016-08-06 10:47:20.208 Howie's first season, they 2016-08-06 10:47:22.347 relied on local interpreters 2016-08-06 10:47:22.332 relied on local interpreters 2016-08-06 10:47:24.223 with other jobs and I do not 2016-08-06 10:47:24.208 with other jobs and I do not 2016-08-06 10:47:26.224 know that he had full coverage 2016-08-06 10:47:26.209 know that he had full coverage 2016-08-06 10:47:26.21 for all rehearsals. 2016-08-06 10:47:26.226 for all rehearsals. 2016-08-06 10:47:29.228 I was brought down during his 2016-08-06 10:47:29.215 I was brought down during his 2016-08-06 10:47:30.207 second season for three-month 2016-08-06 10:47:30.223 second season for three-month 2016-08-06 10:47:32.267 period to cover his for her soul 2016-08-06 10:47:32.253 period to cover his for her soul 2016-08-06 10:47:37.222 period cash to cover his 2016-08-06 10:47:37.207 period cash to cover his 2016-08-06 10:47:39.246 rehearsal -- to cover his 2016-08-06 10:47:39.231 rehearsal -- to cover his 2016-08-06 10:47:42.271 reversal period and then I moved 2016-08-06 10:47:42.256 reversal period and then I moved 2016-08-06 10:47:46.224 to Ashland, so I was one of the 2016-08-06 10:47:46.209 to Ashland, so I was one of the 2016-08-06 10:47:47.283 local interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:47:47.268 local interpreters. 2016-08-06 10:47:51.272 We also did need to bring 2016-08-06 10:47:51.258 We also did need to bring 2016-08-06 10:47:55.321 interpreters and provided the 2016-08-06 10:47:55.306 interpreters and provided the 2016-08-06 10:47:55.323 area because those of us who 2016-08-06 10:47:55.308 area because those of us who 2016-08-06 10:47:58.319 were local head of their jobs 2016-08-06 10:47:58.304 were local head of their jobs 2016-08-06 10:47:58.325 and were not available as much 2016-08-06 10:47:58.31 and were not available as much 2016-08-06 10:47:58.327 as needed. 2016-08-06 10:47:58.313 as needed. 2016-08-06 10:48:03.328 OSF also used it 2016-08-06 10:48:03.313 OSF also used it 2016-08-06 10:48:04.321 sign coach the 2016-08-06 10:48:04.306 sign coach the 2016-08-06 10:48:04.323 last couple of seasons to work 2016-08-06 10:48:04.308 last couple of seasons to work 2016-08-06 10:48:07.321 with the other actors in the 2016-08-06 10:48:07.306 with the other actors in the 2016-08-06 10:48:09.322 company on translating airlines 2016-08-06 10:48:09.307 company on translating airlines 2016-08-06 10:48:12.349 and teaching them their lines 2016-08-06 10:48:12.334 and teaching them their lines 2016-08-06 10:48:12.351 and sign language, so we needed 2016-08-06 10:48:12.336 and sign language, so we needed 2016-08-06 10:48:15.35 to provide interpreting 2016-08-06 10:48:15.335 to provide interpreting 2016-08-06 10:48:17.35 languages for the coach and at 2016-08-06 10:48:17.335 languages for the coach and at 2016-08-06 10:48:21.351 the same time that Howie was in 2016-08-06 10:48:21.336 the same time that Howie was in 2016-08-06 10:48:21.353 her soul. 2016-08-06 10:48:21.338 her soul. 2016-08-06 10:48:22.349 We worked really hard to develop 2016-08-06 10:48:22.334 We worked really hard to develop 2016-08-06 10:48:27.338 a team of interpreters to make 2016-08-06 10:48:27.34 sure that the communication 2016-08-06 10:48:27.358 a team of interpreters 2016-08-06 10:48:27.359 to make 2016-08-06 10:48:27.361 sure that the communication 2016-08-06 10:48:29.352 needs of everyone were being 2016-08-06 10:48:29.337 needs of everyone were being 2016-08-06 10:48:29.338 met. 2016-08-06 10:48:29.354 met. 2016-08-06 10:48:32.35 It is a process. 2016-08-06 10:48:32.335 It is a process. 2016-08-06 10:48:34.393 It takes commitment. 2016-08-06 10:48:34.378 It takes commitment. 2016-08-06 10:48:37.394 Not just the LaSalle quickly put 2016-08-06 10:48:37.379 Not just the LaSalle quickly put 2016-08-06 10:48:37.38 financially. 2016-08-06 10:48:37.396 financially. 2016-08-06 10:48:42.394 -- not just philosophically but 2016-08-06 10:48:42.379 -- not just philosophically but 2016-08-06 10:48:42.395 financially. 2016-08-06 10:48:42.38 financially. 2016-08-06 10:48:45.395 We have been fortunate at OSF 2016-08-06 10:48:45.38 We have been fortunate at OSF 2016-08-06 10:48:45.397 that we have been able to cover 2016-08-06 10:48:45.382 that we have been able to cover 2016-08-06 10:48:47.394 the communication needs that we 2016-08-06 10:48:47.379 the communication needs that we 2016-08-06 10:48:51.379 needed to cover and OSF has 2016-08-06 10:48:51.395 needed to cover and OSF has 2016-08-06 10:48:51.397 provided that financial support. 2016-08-06 10:48:51.382 provided that financial support. 2016-08-06 10:48:55.379 Christine: what -- because you 2016-08-06 10:48:55.395 Christine: what -- because you 2016-08-06 10:49:01.394 have been working with Howi 2016-08-06 10:49:01.395 e 2016-08-06 10:49:01.38 have been working with Howi 2016-08-06 10:49:01.381 e 2016-08-06 10:49:02.379 for a number of years and I did 2016-08-06 10:49:02.395 for a number of years and I did 2016-08-06 10:49:05.476 not say his Glassman, Howie 2016-08-06 10:49:05.461 not say his Glassman, Howie 2016-08-06 10:49:10.477 Segoe, and he is going into 2016-08-06 10:49:10.462 Segoe, and he is going into 2016-08-06 10:49:11.477 his seventh season with OSF? 2016-08-06 10:49:11.462 his seventh season with OSF? 2016-08-06 10:49:15.477 Julie: Howie is not currently 2016-08-06 10:49:15.462 Julie: Howie is not currently 2016-08-06 10:49:20.478 in the OSF but he will be 2016-08-06 10:49:20.463 in the OSF but he will be 2016-08-06 10:49:21.479 back. 2016-08-06 10:49:21.464 back. 2016-08-06 10:49:23.479 Christine: seven, amazing. 2016-08-06 10:49:23.464 Christine: seven, amazing. 2016-08-06 10:49:28.48 What are some of the -- quickly, 2016-08-06 10:49:28.465 What are some of the -- quickly, 2016-08-06 10:49:29.505 what our couple of the 2016-08-06 10:49:29.521 what our couple of the 2016-08-06 10:49:32.523 interpretive based lessons that 2016-08-06 10:49:32.508 interpretive based lessons that 2016-08-06 10:49:32.525 you have learned through that 2016-08-06 10:49:32.51 you have learned through that 2016-08-06 10:49:38.57 process of figuring out 2016-08-06 10:49:38.571 what the 2016-08-06 10:49:38.557 process of figuring out 2016-08-06 10:49:38.559 what the 2016-08-06 10:49:39.57 best situation would be for 2016-08-06 10:49:39.555 best situation would be for 2016-08-06 10:49:42.556 Howie to meet his artistic 2016-08-06 10:49:42.572 Howie to meet his artistic 2016-08-06 10:49:43.572 needs? 2016-08-06 10:49:43.557 needs? 2016-08-06 10:49:45.572 Julie: one of the things is 2016-08-06 10:49:45.557 Julie: one of the things is 2016-08-06 10:49:48.571 talking to Howie. 2016-08-06 10:49:48.556 talking to Howie. 2016-08-06 10:49:52.572 Talking to him directly to find 2016-08-06 10:49:52.557 Talking to him directly to find 2016-08-06 10:49:52.574 out what his needs are. 2016-08-06 10:49:52.559 out what his needs are. 2016-08-06 10:49:55.575 It is important to realize that 2016-08-06 10:49:55.56 It is important to realize that 2016-08-06 10:50:01.589 it is not the deaf actor or 2016-08-06 10:50:01.605 it is not the deaf actor or 2016-08-06 10:50:02.65 coach to find the providers but 2016-08-06 10:50:02.635 coach to find the providers but 2016-08-06 10:50:02.652 I think it is important they be 2016-08-06 10:50:02.637 I think it is important they be 2016-08-06 10:50:02.638 involved in the process. 2016-08-06 10:50:02.654 involved in the process. 2016-08-06 10:50:07.715 Howie was they clear about what 2016-08-06 10:50:07.735 Howie was they clear about what 2016-08-06 10:50:10.727 you wanted. 2016-08-06 10:50:10.714 you wanted. 2016-08-06 10:50:11.716 When we were looking for 2016-08-06 10:50:11.732 When we were looking for 2016-08-06 10:50:11.734 interpreters to bring in from 2016-08-06 10:50:11.719 interpreters to bring in from 2016-08-06 10:50:13.73 out of the area for three-month 2016-08-06 10:50:13.715 out of the area for three-month 2016-08-06 10:50:17.745 period, we send out -- we worked 2016-08-06 10:50:17.731 period, we send out -- we worked 2016-08-06 10:50:20.714 with HR, sent out the job 2016-08-06 10:50:20.73 with HR, sent out the job 2016-08-06 10:50:23.731 announcement, and I worked with 2016-08-06 10:50:23.716 announcement, and I worked with 2016-08-06 10:50:23.718 the producer for the company to 2016-08-06 10:50:23.734 the producer for the company to 2016-08-06 10:50:27.732 screen the applications and 2016-08-06 10:50:27.717 screen the applications and 2016-08-06 10:50:27.734 applicants, and then we 2016-08-06 10:50:27.719 applicants, and then we 2016-08-06 10:50:30.73 forwarded the three finalists to 2016-08-06 10:50:30.715 forwarded the three finalists to 2016-08-06 10:50:35.739 Howie and yet a 2016-08-06 10:50:35.724 Howie and yet a 2016-08-06 10:50:38.824 Sk -- and had a 2016-08-06 10:50:38.809 Sk -- and had a 2016-08-06 10:50:38.826 Skype call with them and he 2016-08-06 10:50:38.811 Skype call with them and he 2016-08-06 10:50:40.822 talked to them directly and made 2016-08-06 10:50:40.807 talked to them directly and made 2016-08-06 10:50:41.823 sure the skills that they had 2016-08-06 10:50:41.808 sure the skills that they had 2016-08-06 10:50:44.822 where meeting his needs. 2016-08-06 10:50:44.807 where meeting his needs. 2016-08-06 10:50:46.824 And then he told us who he 2016-08-06 10:50:46.809 And then he told us who he 2016-08-06 10:50:46.826 recommended and then we did it 2016-08-06 10:50:46.811 recommended and then we did it 2016-08-06 10:50:46.828 that way. 2016-08-06 10:50:46.813 that way. 2016-08-06 10:50:49.873 It is very important to make 2016-08-06 10:50:49.858 It is very important to make 2016-08-06 10:50:52.871 sure that the deaf artist is a 2016-08-06 10:50:52.856 sure that the deaf artist is a 2016-08-06 10:50:57.874 involved in the process 2016-08-06 10:50:57.86 involved in the process 2016-08-06 10:50:57.876 but not the one who us to go out 2016-08-06 10:50:57.862 but not the one who us to go out 2016-08-06 10:50:59.874 and find the service providers. 2016-08-06 10:50:59.859 and find the service providers. 2016-08-06 10:51:01.874 That was something. 2016-08-06 10:51:01.859 That was something. 2016-08-06 10:51:03.875 Over the course of the time that 2016-08-06 10:51:03.86 Over the course of the time that 2016-08-06 10:51:08.899 Howie was 2016-08-06 10:51:08.884 Howie was 2016-08-06 10:51:08.9 in the company for six 2016-08-06 10:51:08.888 in the company for six 2016-08-06 10:51:10.94 seasons, his needs changed 2016-08-06 10:51:10.925 seasons, his needs changed 2016-08-06 10:51:14.942 depending on the kind of roles 2016-08-06 10:51:14.927 depending on the kind of roles 2016-08-06 10:51:15.941 he had, the size of the roles, 2016-08-06 10:51:15.926 he had, the size of the roles, 2016-08-06 10:51:15.943 with the needs of the production 2016-08-06 10:51:15.928 with the needs of the production 2016-08-06 10:51:20.941 where, so it was important to 2016-08-06 10:51:20.926 where, so it was important to 2016-08-06 10:51:20.943 make sure that the interpreters 2016-08-06 10:51:20.928 make sure that the interpreters 2016-08-06 10:51:25.926 you with those changes were and 2016-08-06 10:51:25.942 you with those changes were and 2016-08-06 10:51:26.941 they would have a staff meeting. 2016-08-06 10:51:26.926 they would have a staff meeting. 2016-08-06 10:51:31.944 It also meant I was doing the 2016-08-06 10:51:31.929 It also meant I was doing the 2016-08-06 10:51:31.946 scheduling as lead interpreter, 2016-08-06 10:51:31.931 scheduling as lead interpreter, 2016-08-06 10:51:32.941 so I would meet with 2016-08-06 10:51:32.927 so I would meet with 2016-08-06 10:51:35.944 interpreters at the top of 2016-08-06 10:51:35.945 rehearsal and have the stage 2016-08-06 10:51:35.93 interpreters at the top of 2016-08-06 10:51:35.932 rehearsal and have the stage 2016-08-06 10:51:41.025 manager from Howie's 2016-08-06 10:51:41.01 manager from Howie's 2016-08-06 10:51:41.026 show come 2016-08-06 10:51:41.011 show come 2016-08-06 10:51:41.028 to talk to us and make sure we 2016-08-06 10:51:41.013 to talk to us and make sure we 2016-08-06 10:51:44.027 were on the same page in terms 2016-08-06 10:51:44.012 were on the same page in terms 2016-08-06 10:51:44.029 of communication access. 2016-08-06 10:51:44.014 of communication access. 2016-08-06 10:51:46.027 Howie was responsible for his 2016-08-06 10:51:46.012 Howie was responsible for his 2016-08-06 10:51:50.011 own actor needs, just like the 2016-08-06 10:51:50.027 own actor needs, just like the 2016-08-06 10:51:53.027 other actors, but we wanted to 2016-08-06 10:51:53.012 other actors, but we wanted to 2016-08-06 10:51:53.029 make sure that communication was 2016-08-06 10:51:53.014 make sure that communication was 2016-08-06 10:51:54.028 clear. 2016-08-06 10:51:54.013 clear. 2016-08-06 10:51:58.027 Howie was the one who explained 2016-08-06 10:51:58.012 Howie was the one who explained 2016-08-06 10:52:02.264 to the rest of the company and 2016-08-06 10:52:02.249 to the rest of the company and 2016-08-06 10:52:02.266 to his cast members what his can 2016-08-06 10:52:02.251 to his cast members what his can 2016-08-06 10:52:04.06 indication needs were. 2016-08-06 10:52:04.077 indication needs were. 2016-08-06 10:52:05.073 Which is provided the 2016-08-06 10:52:05.058 Which is provided the 2016-08-06 10:52:10.076 interpretation, and I think one 2016-08-06 10:52:10.061 interpretation, and I think one 2016-08-06 10:52:10.078 of the really nice benefits is 2016-08-06 10:52:10.063 of the really nice benefits is 2016-08-06 10:52:14.126 that everyone got used to having 2016-08-06 10:52:14.111 that everyone got used to having 2016-08-06 10:52:14.128 interpreters in the room, so 2016-08-06 10:52:14.113 interpreters in the room, so 2016-08-06 10:52:17.136 that when we had interpreted 2016-08-06 10:52:17.152 that when we had interpreted 2016-08-06 10:52:19.152 performances, the actors in the 2016-08-06 10:52:19.137 performances, the actors in the 2016-08-06 10:52:21.157 company and the stage manager 2016-08-06 10:52:21.142 company and the stage manager 2016-08-06 10:52:24.152 were used to having signers 2016-08-06 10:52:24.137 were used to having signers 2016-08-06 10:52:27.154 there, which was a nice benefit. 2016-08-06 10:52:27.14 there, which was a nice benefit. 2016-08-06 10:52:27.156 It was not only the benefit of 2016-08-06 10:52:27.142 It was not only the benefit of 2016-08-06 10:52:30.154 the cast members or general 2016-08-06 10:52:30.139 the cast members or general 2016-08-06 10:52:34.158 acting company because we 2016-08-06 10:52:34.143 acting company because we 2016-08-06 10:52:34.16 usually have between 90 and 100 2016-08-06 10:52:34.145 usually have between 90 and 100 2016-08-06 10:52:36.154 actors in rotating repertory 2016-08-06 10:52:36.139 actors in rotating repertory 2016-08-06 10:52:43.196 theater every season 2016-08-06 10:52:43.181 theater every season 2016-08-06 10:52:43.197 . 2016-08-06 10:52:43.182 . 2016-08-06 10:52:43.199 It was a benefit to our patrons 2016-08-06 10:52:43.184 It was a benefit to our patrons 2016-08-06 10:52:43.201 when they came to see 2016-08-06 10:52:43.186 when they came to see 2016-08-06 10:52:44.237 interpretive performances. 2016-08-06 10:52:44.222 interpretive performances. 2016-08-06 10:52:46.236 Christine: thank you. 2016-08-06 10:52:46.221 Christine: thank you. 2016-08-06 10:52:51.234 Regan, how did you come to OSF? 2016-08-06 10:52:51.219 Regan, how did you come to OSF? 2016-08-06 10:52:55.235 Regan: how did I come to OSF? 2016-08-06 10:52:55.22 Regan: how did I come to OSF? 2016-08-06 10:52:57.236 In a wheelchair. 2016-08-06 10:52:57.221 In a wheelchair. 2016-08-06 10:52:58.237 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 10:52:58.222 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 10:53:04.238 No, I think -- so I started 2016-08-06 10:53:04.223 No, I think -- so I started 2016-08-06 10:53:04.239 out 2016-08-06 10:53:04.224 out 2016-08-06 10:53:04.241 in Denver, Colorado. 2016-08-06 10:53:04.226 in Denver, Colorado. 2016-08-06 10:53:05.237 I was working with a group 2016-08-06 10:53:05.222 I was working with a group 2016-08-06 10:53:08.24 called family, which hopefully 2016-08-06 10:53:08.242 some of you are familiar with. 2016-08-06 10:53:08.23 called family, which hopefully 2016-08-06 10:53:08.233 some of you are familiar with. 2016-08-06 10:53:14.239 It is the company that works 2016-08-06 10:53:14.224 It is the company that works 2016-08-06 10:53:14.241 exclusively with actors with all 2016-08-06 10:53:14.226 exclusively with actors with all 2016-08-06 10:53:14.243 types of disabilities. 2016-08-06 10:53:14.228 types of disabilities. 2016-08-06 10:53:19.222 I was performing with them, 2016-08-06 10:53:19.238 I was performing with them, 2016-08-06 10:53:19.224 decided to go to graduate 2016-08-06 10:53:19.24 decided to go to graduate 2016-08-06 10:53:19.241 school. 2016-08-06 10:53:19.226 school. 2016-08-06 10:53:24.237 I went to UC San Diego. 2016-08-06 10:53:24.222 I went to UC San Diego. 2016-08-06 10:53:25.223 There was a bit of a 2016-08-06 10:53:25.239 There was a bit of a 2016-08-06 10:53:25.241 relationship between some of the 2016-08-06 10:53:25.226 relationship between some of the 2016-08-06 10:53:28.238 professors at UC San Diego and 2016-08-06 10:53:28.223 professors at UC San Diego and 2016-08-06 10:53:32.273 OSF, so Scott Kaiser, the 2016-08-06 10:53:32.258 OSF, so Scott Kaiser, the 2016-08-06 10:53:37.239 development -- I don't know what 2016-08-06 10:53:37.224 development -- I don't know what 2016-08-06 10:53:38.239 his official title is -- but he 2016-08-06 10:53:38.224 his official title is -- but he 2016-08-06 10:53:42.277 is responsible for going out and 2016-08-06 10:53:42.262 is responsible for going out and 2016-08-06 10:53:42.279 scouting talent and developing 2016-08-06 10:53:42.264 scouting talent and developing 2016-08-06 10:53:43.237 the company. 2016-08-06 10:53:43.222 the company. 2016-08-06 10:53:46.325 He came down to San Diego. 2016-08-06 10:53:46.31 He came down to San Diego. 2016-08-06 10:53:49.325 Ironically, for those of you who 2016-08-06 10:53:49.31 Ironically, for those of you who 2016-08-06 10:53:51.325 saw me, saw me in "glass 2016-08-06 10:53:51.31 saw me, saw me in "glass 2016-08-06 10:53:52.31 menagerie." 2016-08-06 10:53:52.326 menagerie." 2016-08-06 10:53:57.325 It just kind of happened that I 2016-08-06 10:53:57.31 It just kind of happened that I 2016-08-06 10:54:01.376 became aware of OSF, they became 2016-08-06 10:54:01.361 became aware of OSF, they became 2016-08-06 10:54:01.362 aware of me. 2016-08-06 10:54:01.378 aware of me. 2016-08-06 10:54:05.375 I was not cast immediately right 2016-08-06 10:54:05.36 I was not cast immediately right 2016-08-06 10:54:07.375 out of graduate school in 2013, 2016-08-06 10:54:07.36 out of graduate school in 2013, 2016-08-06 10:54:08.379 but one year later, I auditioned 2016-08-06 10:54:08.364 but one year later, I auditioned 2016-08-06 10:54:13.377 for Joy Dixon, the casting 2016-08-06 10:54:13.366 for Joy Dixon, the casting 2016-08-06 10:54:14.378 director in Los Angeles, and was 2016-08-06 10:54:14.363 director in Los Angeles, and was 2016-08-06 10:54:14.379 cast. 2016-08-06 10:54:14.364 cast. 2016-08-06 10:54:17.362 I was not the first wheelchair 2016-08-06 10:54:17.378 I was not the first wheelchair 2016-08-06 10:54:22.375 user ever to be cast at OSF. 2016-08-06 10:54:22.36 user ever to be cast at OSF. 2016-08-06 10:54:23.375 There was another actor in the 2016-08-06 10:54:23.36 There was another actor in the 2016-08-06 10:54:23.377 1990's. 2016-08-06 10:54:23.362 1990's. 2016-08-06 10:54:25.375 You said that you remembered. 2016-08-06 10:54:25.36 You said that you remembered. 2016-08-06 10:54:28.378 Christine: I said his name the 2016-08-06 10:54:28.363 Christine: I said his name the 2016-08-06 10:54:28.379 other day. 2016-08-06 10:54:28.365 other day. 2016-08-06 10:54:30.377 Regan: Kenneth Crow. 2016-08-06 10:54:30.362 Regan: Kenneth Crow. 2016-08-06 10:54:34.378 He was -- he had been in the 2016-08-06 10:54:34.364 He was -- he had been in the 2016-08-06 10:54:38.408 production of "Midsummer Night's 2016-08-06 10:54:38.393 production of "Midsummer Night's 2016-08-06 10:54:41.409 Dream" in the 1990's but I was 2016-08-06 10:54:41.394 Dream" in the 1990's but I was 2016-08-06 10:54:43.408 the first repertoire actor hired 2016-08-06 10:54:43.393 the first repertoire actor hired 2016-08-06 10:54:45.41 and the important distinction is 2016-08-06 10:54:45.395 and the important distinction is 2016-08-06 10:54:50.452 that sometimes for artists 2016-08-06 10:54:50.437 that sometimes for artists 2016-08-06 10:54:50.453 with 2016-08-06 10:54:50.438 with 2016-08-06 10:54:50.455 disabilities, it can feel like 2016-08-06 10:54:50.44 disabilities, it can feel like 2016-08-06 10:54:54.449 we are brought in when it fits 2016-08-06 10:54:54.434 we are brought in when it fits 2016-08-06 10:54:55.451 for a one production here, one 2016-08-06 10:54:55.436 for a one production here, one 2016-08-06 10:54:58.451 production there, as opposed to 2016-08-06 10:54:58.436 production there, as opposed to 2016-08-06 10:54:58.453 saying, you are a well-rounded 2016-08-06 10:54:58.438 saying, you are a well-rounded 2016-08-06 10:55:03.45 artist and you have the ability 2016-08-06 10:55:03.435 artist and you have the ability 2016-08-06 10:55:04.452 to transform and be in different 2016-08-06 10:55:04.437 to transform and be in different 2016-08-06 10:55:05.452 productions, so I was cast into 2016-08-06 10:55:05.437 productions, so I was cast into 2016-08-06 10:55:08.453 different productions at OSF 2016-08-06 10:55:08.438 different productions at OSF 2016-08-06 10:55:08.44 last year. 2016-08-06 10:55:08.457 last year. 2016-08-06 10:55:13.491 One was "much Ado 2016-08-06 10:55:13.476 One was "much Ado 2016-08-06 10:55:15.534 ABout 2016-08-06 10:55:15.519 ABout 2016-08-06 10:55:18.578 Nothing," and one was a 2016-08-06 10:55:18.563 Nothing," and one was a 2016-08-06 10:55:20.562 Taiwanese play. 2016-08-06 10:55:20.578 Taiwanese play. 2016-08-06 10:55:22.579 I will also notes that one of 2016-08-06 10:55:22.564 I will also notes that one of 2016-08-06 10:55:23.56 the first unique experiences of 2016-08-06 10:55:23.576 the first unique experiences of 2016-08-06 10:55:27.578 OSF is that I have been cast as 2016-08-06 10:55:27.563 OSF is that I have been cast as 2016-08-06 10:55:27.564 an understudy. 2016-08-06 10:55:27.58 an understudy. 2016-08-06 10:55:30.627 Most of the repertory actors are 2016-08-06 10:55:30.612 Most of the repertory actors are 2016-08-06 10:55:32.628 cast as understudy's for one 2016-08-06 10:55:32.613 cast as understudy's for one 2016-08-06 10:55:33.61 wall or to roll, so I was cast 2016-08-06 10:55:33.626 wall or to roll, so I was cast 2016-08-06 10:55:36.628 to have an understanding in "Ant 2016-08-06 10:55:36.613 to have an understanding in "Ant 2016-08-06 10:55:41.626 ony and Cleopatra," which 2016-08-06 10:55:41.612 ony and Cleopatra," which 2016-08-06 10:55:43.628 was on the outdoor stage, and I 2016-08-06 10:55:43.613 was on the outdoor stage, and I 2016-08-06 10:55:48.705 realized the role I was 2016-08-06 10:55:48.69 realized the role I was 2016-08-06 10:55:48.706 supposed 2016-08-06 10:55:48.691 supposed 2016-08-06 10:55:49.704 to study was on both levels of 2016-08-06 10:55:49.689 to study was on both levels of 2016-08-06 10:55:51.744 the Elizabethan stage in the 2016-08-06 10:55:51.729 the Elizabethan stage in the 2016-08-06 10:55:51.746 second level was not accessible, 2016-08-06 10:55:51.731 second level was not accessible, 2016-08-06 10:55:52.729 so my understanding was 2016-08-06 10:55:52.745 so my understanding was 2016-08-06 10:55:52.746 canceled. 2016-08-06 10:55:52.731 canceled. 2016-08-06 10:55:55.744 That was one of the first 2016-08-06 10:55:55.729 That was one of the first 2016-08-06 10:56:01.744 experiences that OSF had 2016-08-06 10:56:01.729 experiences that OSF had 2016-08-06 10:56:01.745 of -- 2016-08-06 10:56:01.73 of -- 2016-08-06 10:56:07.744 had of " 2016-08-06 10:56:07.729 had of " 2016-08-06 10:56:07.745 OH, casting someone with 2016-08-06 10:56:07.73 OH, casting someone with 2016-08-06 10:56:10.746 a disability takes more into 2016-08-06 10:56:10.731 a disability takes more into 2016-08-06 10:56:11.745 what functions they will have." 2016-08-06 10:56:11.73 what functions they will have." 2016-08-06 10:56:14.745 The previous year, when involved 2016-08-06 10:56:14.73 The previous year, when involved 2016-08-06 10:56:14.746 race. 2016-08-06 10:56:14.731 race. 2016-08-06 10:56:19.748 Somebody had been cast and then 2016-08-06 10:56:19.733 Somebody had been cast and then 2016-08-06 10:56:19.75 all of a sudden, they realized 2016-08-06 10:56:19.74 all of a sudden, they realized 2016-08-06 10:56:22.788 that this was potentially not 2016-08-06 10:56:22.773 that this was potentially not 2016-08-06 10:56:23.83 racially appropriate casting for 2016-08-06 10:56:23.815 racially appropriate casting for 2016-08-06 10:56:23.831 the understudy. 2016-08-06 10:56:23.816 the understudy. 2016-08-06 10:56:26.83 It is not just disability that 2016-08-06 10:56:26.815 It is not just disability that 2016-08-06 10:56:27.828 they have had that experience 2016-08-06 10:56:27.814 they have had that experience 2016-08-06 10:56:27.83 with. 2016-08-06 10:56:27.815 with. 2016-08-06 10:56:30.83 But that is a little bit about 2016-08-06 10:56:30.815 But that is a little bit about 2016-08-06 10:56:33.831 how I came to OSF. 2016-08-06 10:56:33.816 how I came to OSF. 2016-08-06 10:56:33.833 I will also mention that when I 2016-08-06 10:56:33.818 I will also mention that when I 2016-08-06 10:56:38.831 came to OSF, generally, the 2016-08-06 10:56:38.816 came to OSF, generally, the 2016-08-06 10:56:39.829 environment, aside from 2016-08-06 10:56:39.814 environment, aside from 2016-08-06 10:56:43.83 Elizabethan was fairly 2016-08-06 10:56:43.815 Elizabethan was fairly 2016-08-06 10:56:43.832 accessible. 2016-08-06 10:56:43.817 accessible. 2016-08-06 10:56:45.83 They did renovate an apartment 2016-08-06 10:56:45.815 They did renovate an apartment 2016-08-06 10:56:48.831 because at OSF, actors are 2016-08-06 10:56:48.816 because at OSF, actors are 2016-08-06 10:56:50.833 housed by the company, and they 2016-08-06 10:56:50.818 housed by the company, and they 2016-08-06 10:56:55.928 did not have any accessible 2016-08-06 10:56:55.913 did not have any accessible 2016-08-06 10:56:55.929 -- 2016-08-06 10:56:55.914 -- 2016-08-06 10:56:55.93 wheelchair accessible housing, 2016-08-06 10:56:55.915 wheelchair accessible housing, 2016-08-06 10:56:57.928 so they renovated an apartment, 2016-08-06 10:56:57.913 so they renovated an apartment, 2016-08-06 10:56:59.928 which they also felt was a long 2016-08-06 10:56:59.929 time coming in general. 2016-08-06 10:56:59.914 which they also felt was a long 2016-08-06 10:56:59.916 time coming in general. 2016-08-06 10:57:00.928 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 10:57:00.913 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 10:57:02.93 They gave them the opportunity 2016-08-06 10:57:02.915 They gave them the opportunity 2016-08-06 10:57:05.93 to get that. 2016-08-06 10:57:05.915 to get that. 2016-08-06 10:57:05.932 I gave them the opportunity to 2016-08-06 10:57:05.917 I gave them the opportunity to 2016-08-06 10:57:05.933 do that. 2016-08-06 10:57:05.918 do that. 2016-08-06 10:57:15.93 There were various things that 2016-08-06 10:57:15.915 There were various things that 2016-08-06 10:57:19.958 they did and it did not take a 2016-08-06 10:57:19.946 they did and it did not take a 2016-08-06 10:57:22.999 huge additional financial 2016-08-06 10:57:22.984 huge additional financial 2016-08-06 10:57:23.998 commitment of any kind. 2016-08-06 10:57:23.983 commitment of any kind. 2016-08-06 10:57:26.082 The accommodations that it took 2016-08-06 10:57:26.067 The accommodations that it took 2016-08-06 10:57:26.084 to bring me into the company 2016-08-06 10:57:26.069 to bring me into the company 2016-08-06 10:57:29.082 were very small. 2016-08-06 10:57:29.068 were very small. 2016-08-06 10:57:32.263 I just want to emphasize that 2016-08-06 10:57:32.248 I just want to emphasize that 2016-08-06 10:57:33.082 because of think that is often a 2016-08-06 10:57:33.068 because of think that is often a 2016-08-06 10:57:36.085 misconception, that it will take 2016-08-06 10:57:36.07 misconception, that it will take 2016-08-06 10:57:41.068 a huge financial decision and 2016-08-06 10:57:41.084 a huge financial decision and 2016-08-06 10:57:41.085 that is not always the case. 2016-08-06 10:57:41.07 that is not always the case. 2016-08-06 10:57:43.084 Christine: I want to also 2016-08-06 10:57:43.069 Christine: I want to also 2016-08-06 10:57:48.084 mention that in your biography, 2016-08-06 10:57:48.069 mention that in your biography, 2016-08-06 10:57:48.086 you are the first wheelchair 2016-08-06 10:57:48.071 you are the first wheelchair 2016-08-06 10:57:54.082 user to graduate from UC 2016-08-06 10:57:54.067 user to graduate from UC 2016-08-06 10:57:54.083 SD? 2016-08-06 10:57:54.068 SD? 2016-08-06 10:57:56.13 From the acting program. 2016-08-06 10:57:56.115 From the acting program. 2016-08-06 10:57:59.131 Regan: yes, I was the first to 2016-08-06 10:57:59.116 Regan: yes, I was the first to 2016-08-06 10:58:05.134 be brought into the MFA 2016-08-06 10:58:05.119 be brought into the MFA 2016-08-06 10:58:05.135 program 2016-08-06 10:58:05.12 program 2016-08-06 10:58:05.136 at San Diego. 2016-08-06 10:58:05.121 at San Diego. 2016-08-06 10:58:06.163 When I was researching, I found 2016-08-06 10:58:06.179 When I was researching, I found 2016-08-06 10:58:10.18 approximately five people that 2016-08-06 10:58:10.165 approximately five people that 2016-08-06 10:58:10.182 had gone through some of the top 2016-08-06 10:58:10.167 had gone through some of the top 2016-08-06 10:58:14.181 graduate MFA acting programs 2016-08-06 10:58:14.167 graduate MFA acting programs 2016-08-06 10:58:14.183 across the country that have 2016-08-06 10:58:14.169 across the country that have 2016-08-06 10:58:16.18 disabilities. 2016-08-06 10:58:16.165 disabilities. 2016-08-06 10:58:21.181 It felt like a pretty big deal 2016-08-06 10:58:21.166 It felt like a pretty big deal 2016-08-06 10:58:23.196 to have a wheelchair represented 2016-08-06 10:58:23.215 to have a wheelchair represented 2016-08-06 10:58:25.211 in one of those companies. 2016-08-06 10:58:25.198 in one of those companies. 2016-08-06 10:58:27.252 I will just mention that since I 2016-08-06 10:58:27.237 I will just mention that since I 2016-08-06 10:58:29.335 have been there, the couple 2016-08-06 10:58:29.322 have been there, the couple 2016-08-06 10:58:31.334 years after I graduated, the 2016-08-06 10:58:31.319 years after I graduated, the 2016-08-06 10:58:34.334 tick another actor who has 2016-08-06 10:58:34.319 tick another actor who has 2016-08-06 10:58:37.335 cerebral palsy -- took another 2016-08-06 10:58:37.32 cerebral palsy -- took another 2016-08-06 10:58:41.338 actor who has cerebral palsy. 2016-08-06 10:58:41.323 actor who has cerebral palsy. 2016-08-06 10:58:41.34 One of my friends is a 2016-08-06 10:58:41.325 One of my friends is a 2016-08-06 10:58:42.359 quadriplegic and he is in the 2016-08-06 10:58:42.344 quadriplegic and he is in the 2016-08-06 10:58:47.336 PHd program there, so I'll just 2016-08-06 10:58:47.321 PHd program there, so I'll just 2016-08-06 10:58:51.366 give a shout out that UCSD is 2016-08-06 10:58:51.382 give a shout out that UCSD is 2016-08-06 10:58:54.382 starting to bring actors with 2016-08-06 10:58:54.367 starting to bring actors with 2016-08-06 10:58:54.384 disabilities into the program. 2016-08-06 10:58:54.369 disabilities into the program. 2016-08-06 10:58:58.431 Christine: can you talk a little 2016-08-06 10:58:58.416 Christine: can you talk a little 2016-08-06 10:58:58.433 bit about what the actual 2016-08-06 10:58:58.418 bit about what the actual 2016-08-06 10:59:00.429 experience was like on a 2016-08-06 10:59:00.415 experience was like on a 2016-08-06 10:59:04.431 day-to-day basis, and I figured 2016-08-06 10:59:04.416 day-to-day basis, and I figured 2016-08-06 10:59:07.431 the campus, or her soul -- 2016-08-06 10:59:07.416 the campus, or her soul -- 2016-08-06 10:59:11.433 navigating campus, rehearsal 2016-08-06 10:59:11.418 navigating campus, rehearsal 2016-08-06 10:59:11.435 progress, and the issues in 2016-08-06 10:59:11.42 progress, and the issues in 2016-08-06 10:59:13.432 terms of you did not have 2016-08-06 10:59:13.417 terms of you did not have 2016-08-06 10:59:16.461 someone to go to? 2016-08-06 10:59:16.446 someone to go to? 2016-08-06 10:59:21.464 For instance, Howie had Julie as 2016-08-06 10:59:21.449 For instance, Howie had Julie as 2016-08-06 10:59:21.466 his point person because there 2016-08-06 10:59:21.451 his point person because there 2016-08-06 10:59:25.504 was already groundwork laid 2016-08-06 10:59:25.489 was already groundwork laid 2016-08-06 10:59:27.503 because they had worked with 2016-08-06 10:59:27.488 because they had worked with 2016-08-06 10:59:29.505 Howie before. 2016-08-06 10:59:29.49 Howie before. 2016-08-06 10:59:35.546 By the time you get to the fifth 2016-08-06 10:59:35.534 By the time you get to the fifth 2016-08-06 10:59:36.546 or sixth season, there is a 2016-08-06 10:59:36.532 or sixth season, there is a 2016-08-06 10:59:36.548 protocol. 2016-08-06 10:59:36.534 protocol. 2016-08-06 10:59:38.531 I do not know for sure because I 2016-08-06 10:59:38.547 I do not know for sure because I 2016-08-06 10:59:43.547 wasn't able to find this out in 2016-08-06 10:59:43.533 wasn't able to find this out in 2016-08-06 10:59:43.549 research whether they have 2016-08-06 10:59:43.534 research whether they have 2016-08-06 10:59:47.546 actually hired anyone with 2016-08-06 10:59:47.531 actually hired anyone with 2016-08-06 10:59:50.545 disabilities since I saw Ken Cr 2016-08-06 10:59:50.53 disabilities since I saw Ken Cr 2016-08-06 10:59:54.546 ow 20 years ago. 2016-08-06 10:59:54.531 ow 20 years ago. 2016-08-06 10:59:56.581 Regan: I did a lot of asking 2016-08-06 10:59:56.567 Regan: I did a lot of asking 2016-08-06 10:59:59.59 around to try to figure out 2016-08-06 10:59:59.575 around to try to figure out 2016-08-06 10:59:59.592 answers to those questions. 2016-08-06 10:59:59.577 answers to those questions. 2016-08-06 11:00:04.633 As far as I understood 2016-08-06 11:00:04.618 As far as I understood 2016-08-06 11:00:04.634 , I did 2016-08-06 11:00:04.619 , I did 2016-08-06 11:00:04.636 not believe there was somebody. 2016-08-06 11:00:04.621 not believe there was somebody. 2016-08-06 11:00:10.665 He did the production of 2016-08-06 11:00:10.681 He did the production of 2016-08-06 11:00:16.683 "welcome Home Jenny 2016-08-06 11:00:16.668 "welcome Home Jenny 2016-08-06 11:00:16.684 Suder," do 2016-08-06 11:00:16.669 Suder," do 2016-08-06 11:00:16.685 you know if the actor had 2016-08-06 11:00:16.67 you know if the actor had 2016-08-06 11:00:24.686 disability? 2016-08-06 11:00:24.671 disability? 2016-08-06 11:00:24.688 There was a play about the 2016-08-06 11:00:24.673 There was a play about the 2016-08-06 11:00:24.689 returning veteran who had to 2016-08-06 11:00:24.69 disability, and I am not sure 2016-08-06 11:00:24.675 returning veteran who had to 2016-08-06 11:00:24.677 disability, and I am not sure 2016-08-06 11:00:27.716 whether the actor that was cast 2016-08-06 11:00:27.701 whether the actor that was cast 2016-08-06 11:00:27.718 actually had a disability. 2016-08-06 11:00:27.703 actually had a disability. 2016-08-06 11:00:30.715 I think she did but it was not 2016-08-06 11:00:30.7 I think she did but it was not 2016-08-06 11:00:30.717 wheelchair based. 2016-08-06 11:00:30.702 wheelchair based. 2016-08-06 11:00:34.757 Anyway, in general, one thing to 2016-08-06 11:00:34.742 Anyway, in general, one thing to 2016-08-06 11:00:38.756 be aware of is that OSF is on 2016-08-06 11:00:38.741 be aware of is that OSF is on 2016-08-06 11:00:38.758 the cutting edge of a lot of 2016-08-06 11:00:38.746 the cutting edge of a lot of 2016-08-06 11:00:41.754 inclusive diversity work. 2016-08-06 11:00:41.739 inclusive diversity work. 2016-08-06 11:00:42.741 However, I think there would be 2016-08-06 11:00:42.757 However, I think there would be 2016-08-06 11:00:46.757 the first to admit also that in 2016-08-06 11:00:46.742 the first to admit also that in 2016-08-06 11:00:46.759 the pantheon of diversity and 2016-08-06 11:00:46.744 the pantheon of diversity and 2016-08-06 11:00:49.757 inclusion, disability has been 2016-08-06 11:00:49.742 inclusion, disability has been 2016-08-06 11:00:51.758 kind of the lost one to make it 2016-08-06 11:00:51.743 kind of the lost one to make it 2016-08-06 11:00:53.758 into the mix, and they are 2016-08-06 11:00:53.743 into the mix, and they are 2016-08-06 11:00:55.757 working on changing that. 2016-08-06 11:00:55.742 working on changing that. 2016-08-06 11:00:58.76 When it comes to the acting 2016-08-06 11:00:58.745 When it comes to the acting 2016-08-06 11:01:01.763 company, there is a 2016-08-06 11:01:01.779 company, there is a 2016-08-06 11:01:01.764 representation of actors that 2016-08-06 11:01:01.78 representation of actors that 2016-08-06 11:01:05.8 have disabilities, nonvisible 2016-08-06 11:01:05.785 have disabilities, nonvisible 2016-08-06 11:01:08.783 disabilities, but I think H 2016-08-06 11:01:08.799 disabilities, but I think H 2016-08-06 11:01:13.802 owie has been one of the main 2016-08-06 11:01:13.787 owie has been one of the main 2016-08-06 11:01:13.804 individuals who has started to 2016-08-06 11:01:13.789 individuals who has started to 2016-08-06 11:01:15.8 change the tradition of, 2016-08-06 11:01:15.785 change the tradition of, 2016-08-06 11:01:17.801 disability is also about -- 2016-08-06 11:01:17.786 disability is also about -- 2016-08-06 11:01:17.803 particularly when you work in a 2016-08-06 11:01:17.788 particularly when you work in a 2016-08-06 11:01:22.801 visual medium or something 2016-08-06 11:01:22.786 visual medium or something 2016-08-06 11:01:22.803 representation or in terms of 2016-08-06 11:01:22.788 representation or in terms of 2016-08-06 11:01:28.785 what we take in in front of us 2016-08-06 11:01:28.801 what we take in in front of us 2016-08-06 11:01:31.801 -- that the civil -- that visual 2016-08-06 11:01:31.786 -- that the civil -- that visual 2016-08-06 11:01:34.801 representation is important, 2016-08-06 11:01:34.786 representation is important, 2016-08-06 11:01:35.826 whether comes from 2016-08-06 11:01:35.842 whether comes from 2016-08-06 11:01:37.847 communication, mobility, so that 2016-08-06 11:01:37.832 communication, mobility, so that 2016-08-06 11:01:39.843 was something -- and I will also 2016-08-06 11:01:39.828 was something -- and I will also 2016-08-06 11:01:40.841 throw in. 2016-08-06 11:01:40.826 throw in. 2016-08-06 11:01:45.851 It is something 2016-08-06 11:01:45.836 It is something 2016-08-06 11:01:45.852 I have 2016-08-06 11:01:45.837 I have 2016-08-06 11:01:45.854 experienced a lot with the 2016-08-06 11:01:45.839 experienced a lot with the 2016-08-06 11:01:45.855 wheelchair. 2016-08-06 11:01:45.84 wheelchair. 2016-08-06 11:01:49.843 One of my friends who was one of 2016-08-06 11:01:49.829 One of my friends who was one of 2016-08-06 11:01:56.846 the founders of 2016-08-06 11:01:56.831 the founders of 2016-08-06 11:01:56.847 Family, she 2016-08-06 11:01:56.832 Family, she 2016-08-06 11:01:56.849 said, it is funny that broadly 2016-08-06 11:01:56.834 said, it is funny that broadly 2016-08-06 11:01:56.835 can get these multimillion 2016-08-06 11:01:56.851 can get these multimillion 2016-08-06 11:01:58.845 dollar take elephants on stage 2016-08-06 11:01:58.83 dollar take elephants on stage 2016-08-06 11:01:59.846 but they cannot get a wheelchair 2016-08-06 11:01:59.831 but they cannot get a wheelchair 2016-08-06 11:02:04.844 on stage. 2016-08-06 11:02:04.829 on stage. 2016-08-06 11:02:04.846 That is light years to this 2016-08-06 11:02:04.831 That is light years to this 2016-08-06 11:02:06.845 morning, I know there are 2016-08-06 11:02:06.83 morning, I know there are 2016-08-06 11:02:06.847 different philosophies about 2016-08-06 11:02:06.832 different philosophies about 2016-08-06 11:02:08.842 when technology breaks down and 2016-08-06 11:02:08.827 when technology breaks down and 2016-08-06 11:02:11.845 had to meet, date, but one of my 2016-08-06 11:02:11.831 had to meet, date, but one of my 2016-08-06 11:02:16.828 big passions is to emphasize 2016-08-06 11:02:16.844 big passions is to emphasize 2016-08-06 11:02:17.846 there is always the way. 2016-08-06 11:02:17.831 there is always the way. 2016-08-06 11:02:18.845 As long as there are other human 2016-08-06 11:02:18.83 As long as there are other human 2016-08-06 11:02:21.846 beings who are created and we 2016-08-06 11:02:21.831 beings who are created and we 2016-08-06 11:02:21.848 can work as a community, there 2016-08-06 11:02:21.833 can work as a community, there 2016-08-06 11:02:23.845 is always a way to get a 2016-08-06 11:02:23.83 is always a way to get a 2016-08-06 11:02:24.844 performer with a disability on a 2016-08-06 11:02:24.829 performer with a disability on a 2016-08-06 11:02:24.845 stage. 2016-08-06 11:02:24.831 stage. 2016-08-06 11:02:29.887 I 2016-08-06 11:02:29.872 I 2016-08-06 11:02:29.889 think it just takes some 2016-08-06 11:02:29.874 think it just takes some 2016-08-06 11:02:31.924 ingenuity and sometimes manpower 2016-08-06 11:02:31.94 ingenuity and sometimes manpower 2016-08-06 11:02:31.941 or woman power. 2016-08-06 11:02:31.926 or woman power. 2016-08-06 11:02:36.986 That is why I chose 2016-08-06 11:02:36.971 That is why I chose 2016-08-06 11:02:36.987 to 2016-08-06 11:02:36.972 to 2016-08-06 11:02:36.989 accommodate this morning the way 2016-08-06 11:02:36.977 accommodate this morning the way 2016-08-06 11:02:39.985 I did of saying, pick me up and 2016-08-06 11:02:39.97 I did of saying, pick me up and 2016-08-06 11:02:40.984 put meat on the stage because I 2016-08-06 11:02:40.969 put meat on the stage because I 2016-08-06 11:02:41.987 think that is often, at least my 2016-08-06 11:02:41.972 think that is often, at least my 2016-08-06 11:02:44.984 experience in a wheelchair, that 2016-08-06 11:02:44.969 experience in a wheelchair, that 2016-08-06 11:02:44.985 is how we do it. 2016-08-06 11:02:44.971 is how we do it. 2016-08-06 11:02:48.013 At OSF, one of the environmental 2016-08-06 11:02:47.998 At OSF, one of the environmental 2016-08-06 11:02:53.012 challenges is that the dressing 2016-08-06 11:02:52.997 challenges is that the dressing 2016-08-06 11:02:54.014 rooms in the theater, or did 2016-08-06 11:02:53.999 rooms in the theater, or did 2016-08-06 11:02:57.998 both of my shows last year, our 2016-08-06 11:02:58.014 both of my shows last year, our 2016-08-06 11:03:00.012 downstairs and this stage is up 2016-08-06 11:02:59.998 downstairs and this stage is up 2016-08-06 11:03:01.014 one level. 2016-08-06 11:03:00.999 one level. 2016-08-06 11:03:01.016 Every time I went to the stage, 2016-08-06 11:03:01.001 Every time I went to the stage, 2016-08-06 11:03:04.013 I had to take an elevator that 2016-08-06 11:03:03.998 I had to take an elevator that 2016-08-06 11:03:06.057 is shared by the costume crew, 2016-08-06 11:03:06.042 is shared by the costume crew, 2016-08-06 11:03:06.059 that is taken costumes up and 2016-08-06 11:03:06.044 that is taken costumes up and 2016-08-06 11:03:13.055 down, and Bill 2016-08-06 11:03:13.04 down, and Bill 2016-08-06 11:03:13.041 , bless his heart, 2016-08-06 11:03:13.057 , bless his heart, 2016-08-06 11:03:13.042 I gave him a wheelchair tour at 2016-08-06 11:03:13.058 I gave him a wheelchair tour at 2016-08-06 11:03:16.107 the end of my time because I 2016-08-06 11:03:16.092 the end of my time because I 2016-08-06 11:03:17.056 thought, it is important that 2016-08-06 11:03:17.041 thought, it is important that 2016-08-06 11:03:21.056 you understand the route that we 2016-08-06 11:03:21.041 you understand the route that we 2016-08-06 11:03:21.042 take us wheelchair users. 2016-08-06 11:03:21.058 take us wheelchair users. 2016-08-06 11:03:23.055 He was very surprised by a lot 2016-08-06 11:03:23.04 He was very surprised by a lot 2016-08-06 11:03:24.055 of it. 2016-08-06 11:03:24.04 of it. 2016-08-06 11:03:29.055 He visited a couple of places 2016-08-06 11:03:29.04 He visited a couple of places 2016-08-06 11:03:29.057 that he had never been to 2016-08-06 11:03:29.042 that he had never been to 2016-08-06 11:03:34.057 because he did not have to take 2016-08-06 11:03:34.042 because he did not have to take 2016-08-06 11:03:35.056 that wheeling routes. 2016-08-06 11:03:35.041 that wheeling routes. 2016-08-06 11:03:36.085 He also did not realize that I 2016-08-06 11:03:36.101 He also did not realize that I 2016-08-06 11:03:38.099 had to take an elevator every 2016-08-06 11:03:38.084 had to take an elevator every 2016-08-06 11:03:38.101 time I wanted to get on stage. 2016-08-06 11:03:38.086 time I wanted to get on stage. 2016-08-06 11:03:41.139 Luckily, there was only one show 2016-08-06 11:03:41.124 Luckily, there was only one show 2016-08-06 11:03:45.123 during the season for which the 2016-08-06 11:03:45.139 during the season for which the 2016-08-06 11:03:48.14 elevator did not function. 2016-08-06 11:03:48.125 elevator did not function. 2016-08-06 11:03:51.141 At that moment, it was about two 2016-08-06 11:03:51.126 At that moment, it was about two 2016-08-06 11:03:54.124 thirds of the way through the 2016-08-06 11:03:54.14 thirds of the way through the 2016-08-06 11:03:55.123 show and a half to get on stage, 2016-08-06 11:03:55.139 show and a half to get on stage, 2016-08-06 11:03:57.14 so stay chance pick me up and 2016-08-06 11:03:57.125 so stay chance pick me up and 2016-08-06 11:03:58.141 carried me up the stairs. 2016-08-06 11:03:58.126 carried me up the stairs. 2016-08-06 11:04:04.125 In general, the environment 2016-08-06 11:04:04.141 In general, the environment 2016-08-06 11:04:05.139 was 2016-08-06 11:04:05.124 was 2016-08-06 11:04:06.143 -- is not entirely accessible. 2016-08-06 11:04:06.128 -- is not entirely accessible. 2016-08-06 11:04:09.14 I think the attitude of OSF was 2016-08-06 11:04:09.125 I think the attitude of OSF was 2016-08-06 11:04:10.141 very proactive in terms of 2016-08-06 11:04:10.126 very proactive in terms of 2016-08-06 11:04:12.14 coming to me. 2016-08-06 11:04:12.125 coming to me. 2016-08-06 11:04:16.141 As we mentioned before, there is 2016-08-06 11:04:16.127 As we mentioned before, there is 2016-08-06 11:04:16.143 not a point person for an acting 2016-08-06 11:04:16.13 not a point person for an acting 2016-08-06 11:04:19.124 company member or the company 2016-08-06 11:04:19.14 company member or the company 2016-08-06 11:04:23.14 member, for instance, Michael is 2016-08-06 11:04:23.125 member, for instance, Michael is 2016-08-06 11:04:27.139 the headlining designer at OSF 2016-08-06 11:04:27.124 the headlining designer at OSF 2016-08-06 11:04:29.142 and uses a wheelchair, but there 2016-08-06 11:04:29.127 and uses a wheelchair, but there 2016-08-06 11:04:29.143 is not a person that is 2016-08-06 11:04:29.129 is not a person that is 2016-08-06 11:04:34.189 designated specifically to 2016-08-06 11:04:34.174 designated specifically to 2016-08-06 11:04:34.174 be 2016-08-06 11:04:34.19 be 2016-08-06 11:04:34.176 that point person for acting 2016-08-06 11:04:34.195 that point person for acting 2016-08-06 11:04:36.188 company members and deal with 2016-08-06 11:04:36.173 company members and deal with 2016-08-06 11:04:37.187 access issues, so it was a lot 2016-08-06 11:04:37.172 access issues, so it was a lot 2016-08-06 11:04:40.189 of cobbling together, well, do 2016-08-06 11:04:40.174 of cobbling together, well, do 2016-08-06 11:04:42.19 you go to the stage manager for 2016-08-06 11:04:42.175 you go to the stage manager for 2016-08-06 11:04:42.191 this? 2016-08-06 11:04:42.176 this? 2016-08-06 11:04:45.204 To go to the box office or 2016-08-06 11:04:45.189 To go to the box office or 2016-08-06 11:04:45.19 safety manager? 2016-08-06 11:04:45.206 safety manager? 2016-08-06 11:04:51.225 That was sometimes challenging, 2016-08-06 11:04:51.241 That was sometimes challenging, 2016-08-06 11:04:51.227 of feeling like there was an 2016-08-06 11:04:51.243 of feeling like there was an 2016-08-06 11:04:51.244 issue and I don't know where to 2016-08-06 11:04:51.229 issue and I don't know where to 2016-08-06 11:04:51.23 address it. 2016-08-06 11:04:51.246 address it. 2016-08-06 11:04:55.238 One other thing and then I will 2016-08-06 11:04:55.223 One other thing and then I will 2016-08-06 11:04:55.239 pass it along. 2016-08-06 11:04:55.224 pass it along. 2016-08-06 11:04:57.222 I am sorry for monopolizing. 2016-08-06 11:04:57.238 I am sorry for monopolizing. 2016-08-06 11:05:02.239 There is, was an access 2016-08-06 11:05:02.224 There is, was an access 2016-08-06 11:05:05.267 committee when I arrived at OSF. 2016-08-06 11:05:05.252 committee when I arrived at OSF. 2016-08-06 11:05:08.268 That is how I met Julie the 2016-08-06 11:05:08.254 That is how I met Julie the 2016-08-06 11:05:08.27 first time, which was intended 2016-08-06 11:05:08.256 first time, which was intended 2016-08-06 11:05:13.267 to address issues of access at 2016-08-06 11:05:13.252 to address issues of access at 2016-08-06 11:05:18.309 OSF, but I think 2016-08-06 11:05:18.294 OSF, but I think 2016-08-06 11:05:19.294 -- I found that 2016-08-06 11:05:19.31 -- I found that 2016-08-06 11:05:19.296 sometimes they were addressing 2016-08-06 11:05:19.312 sometimes they were addressing 2016-08-06 11:05:23.31 issues more dealing with the 2016-08-06 11:05:23.295 issues more dealing with the 2016-08-06 11:05:23.312 patronage as opposed to the 2016-08-06 11:05:23.297 patronage as opposed to the 2016-08-06 11:05:24.311 artist concerns, and I think 2016-08-06 11:05:24.296 artist concerns, and I think 2016-08-06 11:05:26.311 that is something OSF has 2016-08-06 11:05:26.296 that is something OSF has 2016-08-06 11:05:28.311 realized. 2016-08-06 11:05:28.296 realized. 2016-08-06 11:05:28.313 That is what I will say. 2016-08-06 11:05:28.298 That is what I will say. 2016-08-06 11:05:32.311 Christine: I have a quick 2016-08-06 11:05:32.296 Christine: I have a quick 2016-08-06 11:05:32.313 question bouncing off of what 2016-08-06 11:05:32.302 question bouncing off of what 2016-08-06 11:05:34.311 Regan just said. 2016-08-06 11:05:34.296 Regan just said. 2016-08-06 11:05:37.311 The fact that there is no real 2016-08-06 11:05:37.296 The fact that there is no real 2016-08-06 11:05:40.312 point person for members of the 2016-08-06 11:05:40.297 point person for members of the 2016-08-06 11:05:43.312 acting company with 2016-08-06 11:05:43.297 acting company with 2016-08-06 11:05:43.314 disabilities, did any of that 2016-08-06 11:05:43.299 disabilities, did any of that 2016-08-06 11:05:45.352 sort of inadvertently fall on 2016-08-06 11:05:45.337 sort of inadvertently fall on 2016-08-06 11:05:48.354 you as access core needed for 2016-08-06 11:05:48.339 you as access core needed for 2016-08-06 11:05:52.354 patrons? 2016-08-06 11:05:52.339 patrons? 2016-08-06 11:05:53.353 How do you navigate that and 2016-08-06 11:05:53.338 How do you navigate that and 2016-08-06 11:05:56.339 what suggestions would you have 2016-08-06 11:05:56.355 what suggestions would you have 2016-08-06 11:05:57.352 for rectifying that? 2016-08-06 11:05:57.339 for rectifying that? 2016-08-06 11:05:59.354 Julie: I have only been the 2016-08-06 11:05:59.339 Julie: I have only been the 2016-08-06 11:06:04.356 access core Nader since March, 2016-08-06 11:06:04.341 access core Nader since March, 2016-08-06 11:06:04.342 so my tenure has been pretty 2016-08-06 11:06:04.358 so my tenure has been pretty 2016-08-06 11:06:04.359 short. 2016-08-06 11:06:04.344 short. 2016-08-06 11:06:07.356 I think what has happened in the 2016-08-06 11:06:07.341 I think what has happened in the 2016-08-06 11:06:13.354 past is that company 2016-08-06 11:06:13.339 past is that company 2016-08-06 11:06:13.355 members 2016-08-06 11:06:13.34 members 2016-08-06 11:06:14.356 would go to their own 2016-08-06 11:06:14.341 would go to their own 2016-08-06 11:06:14.358 department, so it was the 2016-08-06 11:06:14.343 department, so it was the 2016-08-06 11:06:19.397 company member in the production 2016-08-06 11:06:19.382 company member in the production 2016-08-06 11:06:19.399 shop, production building or box 2016-08-06 11:06:19.384 shop, production building or box 2016-08-06 11:06:19.401 office and they would go to 2016-08-06 11:06:19.386 office and they would go to 2016-08-06 11:06:21.396 their own supervisor and it 2016-08-06 11:06:21.381 their own supervisor and it 2016-08-06 11:06:24.396 might end up at HR or somewhere 2016-08-06 11:06:24.381 might end up at HR or somewhere 2016-08-06 11:06:24.398 else. 2016-08-06 11:06:24.383 else. 2016-08-06 11:06:26.398 I am happy to serve as a 2016-08-06 11:06:26.383 I am happy to serve as a 2016-08-06 11:06:31.396 resource to company members. 2016-08-06 11:06:31.381 resource to company members. 2016-08-06 11:06:33.396 My job is outward facing and I 2016-08-06 11:06:33.384 My job is outward facing and I 2016-08-06 11:06:35.395 do focus on patrons, but I do 2016-08-06 11:06:35.38 do focus on patrons, but I do 2016-08-06 11:06:38.397 work with other departments. 2016-08-06 11:06:38.382 work with other departments. 2016-08-06 11:06:40.399 In terms of the open dialogue 2016-08-06 11:06:40.384 In terms of the open dialogue 2016-08-06 11:06:40.401 form we were talking about 2016-08-06 11:06:40.386 form we were talking about 2016-08-06 11:06:43.398 earlier, I hosted the open 2016-08-06 11:06:43.384 earlier, I hosted the open 2016-08-06 11:06:47.438 dialogue forum two weeks ago. 2016-08-06 11:06:47.423 dialogue forum two weeks ago. 2016-08-06 11:06:49.437 It was in conjunction with for 2016-08-06 11:06:49.423 It was in conjunction with for 2016-08-06 11:06:52.489 interpretive performance -- 2016-08-06 11:06:52.474 interpretive performance -- 2016-08-06 11:06:56.493 four interpretive performances 2016-08-06 11:06:56.478 four interpretive performances 2016-08-06 11:06:57.491 and I asked if I could post the 2016-08-06 11:06:57.476 and I asked if I could post the 2016-08-06 11:06:57.492 open dialogue series during that 2016-08-06 11:06:57.478 open dialogue series during that 2016-08-06 11:07:02.489 week because he had all of our 2016-08-06 11:07:02.474 week because he had all of our 2016-08-06 11:07:03.491 performance interpretive in 2016-08-06 11:07:03.476 performance interpretive in 2016-08-06 11:07:03.492 town. 2016-08-06 11:07:03.477 town. 2016-08-06 11:07:03.494 Performance interpreters were 2016-08-06 11:07:03.479 Performance interpreters were 2016-08-06 11:07:08.538 there, caption 2016-08-06 11:07:08.523 there, caption 2016-08-06 11:07:08.539 operators, and 2016-08-06 11:07:08.524 operators, and 2016-08-06 11:07:09.541 company members from all 2016-08-06 11:07:09.526 company members from all 2016-08-06 11:07:09.543 departments, and we were talking 2016-08-06 11:07:09.528 departments, and we were talking 2016-08-06 11:07:12.543 about general access issues. 2016-08-06 11:07:12.528 about general access issues. 2016-08-06 11:07:13.523 It was not just about patrons. 2016-08-06 11:07:13.539 It was not just about patrons. 2016-08-06 11:07:16.565 It was not just about the daef 2016-08-06 11:07:16.55 It was not just about the daef 2016-08-06 11:07:21.564 community -- deaf community 2016-08-06 11:07:21.549 community -- deaf community 2016-08-06 11:07:25.567 or actors, and they brought up 2016-08-06 11:07:25.553 or actors, and they brought up 2016-08-06 11:07:27.55 would we go to if we are a 2016-08-06 11:07:27.566 would we go to if we are a 2016-08-06 11:07:27.552 company member and we have these 2016-08-06 11:07:27.57 company member and we have these 2016-08-06 11:07:28.564 issues? 2016-08-06 11:07:28.549 issues? 2016-08-06 11:07:31.567 That topic of conversation is 2016-08-06 11:07:31.552 That topic of conversation is 2016-08-06 11:07:34.566 now on the four friends, and we 2016-08-06 11:07:34.551 now on the four friends, and we 2016-08-06 11:07:35.565 will keep that going. 2016-08-06 11:07:35.55 will keep that going. 2016-08-06 11:07:39.568 -- forefront and we'll keep that 2016-08-06 11:07:39.553 -- forefront and we'll keep that 2016-08-06 11:07:39.554 going. 2016-08-06 11:07:39.57 going. 2016-08-06 11:07:44.553 OSF has had a diversity 2016-08-06 11:07:44.569 OSF has had a diversity 2016-08-06 11:07:44.57 consultant for several years, 2016-08-06 11:07:44.555 consultant for several years, 2016-08-06 11:07:45.592 Carmen Morgan. 2016-08-06 11:07:45.608 Carmen Morgan. 2016-08-06 11:07:51.592 There is a diversity and 2016-08-06 11:07:51.608 There is a diversity and 2016-08-06 11:07:53.609 planning Council, of which I 2016-08-06 11:07:53.594 planning Council, of which I 2016-08-06 11:07:53.611 remember and I have been on the 2016-08-06 11:07:53.596 remember and I have been on the 2016-08-06 11:07:53.613 committee for three seasons. 2016-08-06 11:07:53.598 committee for three seasons. 2016-08-06 11:08:01.609 Most of the talk 2016-08-06 11:08:01.594 Most of the talk 2016-08-06 11:08:01.61 is not around 2016-08-06 11:08:01.595 is not around 2016-08-06 11:08:01.612 accessibility issues. 2016-08-06 11:08:01.597 accessibility issues. 2016-08-06 11:08:06.61 There are a couple of us who are 2016-08-06 11:08:06.596 There are a couple of us who are 2016-08-06 11:08:06.612 trying to change that and that 2016-08-06 11:08:06.598 trying to change that and that 2016-08-06 11:08:07.608 was part of the reason I wanted 2016-08-06 11:08:07.593 was part of the reason I wanted 2016-08-06 11:08:11.63 to host the open dialogue 2016-08-06 11:08:11.615 to host the open dialogue 2016-08-06 11:08:13.611 series, to talk about access 2016-08-06 11:08:13.596 series, to talk about access 2016-08-06 11:08:13.597 issues and what that means for 2016-08-06 11:08:13.613 issues and what that means for 2016-08-06 11:08:16.61 company members, patrons, and 2016-08-06 11:08:16.595 company members, patrons, and 2016-08-06 11:08:17.779 what does that look like? 2016-08-06 11:08:17.764 what does that look like? 2016-08-06 11:08:21.652 Not everybody has a visible 2016-08-06 11:08:21.637 Not everybody has a visible 2016-08-06 11:08:21.654 disability. 2016-08-06 11:08:21.639 disability. 2016-08-06 11:08:24.652 One of the other really nice 2016-08-06 11:08:24.637 One of the other really nice 2016-08-06 11:08:27.779 things that we have a OSF are 2016-08-06 11:08:27.764 things that we have a OSF are 2016-08-06 11:08:27.78 affinity groups. 2016-08-06 11:08:27.765 affinity groups. 2016-08-06 11:08:31.65 We have four public and several 2016-08-06 11:08:31.635 We have four public and several 2016-08-06 11:08:33.65 private and we have a new 2016-08-06 11:08:33.635 private and we have a new 2016-08-06 11:08:35.652 infinity -- affinity group this 2016-08-06 11:08:35.637 infinity -- affinity group this 2016-08-06 11:08:38.652 season, so people to process 2016-08-06 11:08:38.637 season, so people to process 2016-08-06 11:08:42.653 information differently, company 2016-08-06 11:08:42.638 information differently, company 2016-08-06 11:08:42.655 members, not for patrons but 2016-08-06 11:08:42.64 members, not for patrons but 2016-08-06 11:08:43.653 company members, who may have to 2016-08-06 11:08:43.638 company members, who may have to 2016-08-06 11:08:45.651 read brain injury or 2016-08-06 11:08:45.636 read brain injury or 2016-08-06 11:08:47.652 posttraumatic stress disorder or 2016-08-06 11:08:47.637 posttraumatic stress disorder or 2016-08-06 11:08:51.693 might have autism or Asperger's, 2016-08-06 11:08:51.678 might have autism or Asperger's, 2016-08-06 11:08:55.694 dyslexia or something, they can 2016-08-06 11:08:55.679 dyslexia or something, they can 2016-08-06 11:08:56.697 get together and talk about what 2016-08-06 11:08:56.683 get together and talk about what 2016-08-06 11:08:56.699 they need is company members. 2016-08-06 11:08:56.685 they need is company members. 2016-08-06 11:08:58.695 Talk about it in a safe space. 2016-08-06 11:08:58.68 Talk about it in a safe space. 2016-08-06 11:09:02.694 The head of our voice and text 2016-08-06 11:09:02.679 The head of our voice and text 2016-08-06 11:09:07.783 department, Rebecca Clark 2016-08-06 11:09:07.768 department, Rebecca Clark 2016-08-06 11:09:09.695 Carey, 2016-08-06 11:09:09.68 Carey, 2016-08-06 11:09:09.697 has been working with actors who 2016-08-06 11:09:09.682 has been working with actors who 2016-08-06 11:09:15.694 have dyslexia or other 2016-08-06 11:09:15.679 have dyslexia or other 2016-08-06 11:09:15.695 issues 2016-08-06 11:09:15.68 issues 2016-08-06 11:09:17.783 when it comes to reading 2016-08-06 11:09:17.768 when it comes to reading 2016-08-06 11:09:18.696 scripts, and she has been 2016-08-06 11:09:18.681 scripts, and she has been 2016-08-06 11:09:18.698 working with them for a couple 2016-08-06 11:09:18.683 working with them for a couple 2016-08-06 11:09:21.726 of years on what font size 2016-08-06 11:09:21.742 of years on what font size 2016-08-06 11:09:21.743 works. 2016-08-06 11:09:21.728 works. 2016-08-06 11:09:27.868 What font style works, what 2016-08-06 11:09:27.853 What font style works, what 2016-08-06 11:09:27.853 may 2016-08-06 11:09:27.869 may 2016-08-06 11:09:27.87 be a need this script on the 2016-08-06 11:09:27.855 be a need this script on the 2016-08-06 11:09:27.872 paper color other than whites, 2016-08-06 11:09:27.857 paper color other than whites, 2016-08-06 11:09:31.822 so we are working -- she is 2016-08-06 11:09:31.807 so we are working -- she is 2016-08-06 11:09:31.808 working with actors in that 2016-08-06 11:09:31.824 working with actors in that 2016-08-06 11:09:36.822 realm, so there are people 2016-08-06 11:09:36.807 realm, so there are people 2016-08-06 11:09:39.822 within the festival working 2016-08-06 11:09:39.807 within the festival working 2016-08-06 11:09:39.824 within different departments and 2016-08-06 11:09:39.809 within different departments and 2016-08-06 11:09:39.825 for different employee 2016-08-06 11:09:39.81 for different employee 2016-08-06 11:09:42.821 constituents, company members on 2016-08-06 11:09:42.807 constituents, company members on 2016-08-06 11:09:47.821 these issues, and the open data 2016-08-06 11:09:47.806 these issues, and the open data 2016-08-06 11:09:48.866 log we had a couple weeks ago 2016-08-06 11:09:48.851 log we had a couple weeks ago 2016-08-06 11:09:51.905 brought a lot of people together 2016-08-06 11:09:51.89 brought a lot of people together 2016-08-06 11:09:51.906 to talk about this. 2016-08-06 11:09:51.891 to talk about this. 2016-08-06 11:09:53.906 There were a lot of people there 2016-08-06 11:09:53.891 There were a lot of people there 2016-08-06 11:09:53.908 who had never thought about 2016-08-06 11:09:53.893 who had never thought about 2016-08-06 11:09:55.903 these issues who work in 2016-08-06 11:09:55.888 these issues who work in 2016-08-06 11:09:58.904 different departments, so now 2016-08-06 11:09:58.889 different departments, so now 2016-08-06 11:09:59.905 they are thinking about it. 2016-08-06 11:09:59.89 they are thinking about it. 2016-08-06 11:09:59.907 That is part of what the open 2016-08-06 11:09:59.892 That is part of what the open 2016-08-06 11:10:00.904 dialogue series does. 2016-08-06 11:10:00.89 dialogue series does. 2016-08-06 11:10:04.905 Christine: I would imagine for 2016-08-06 11:10:04.89 Christine: I would imagine for 2016-08-06 11:10:14.891 someone like Rega 2016-08-06 11:10:14.907 someone like Rega 2016-08-06 11:10:14.907 n with 2016-08-06 11:10:14.892 n with 2016-08-06 11:10:14.908 disability issue, there it be 2016-08-06 11:10:14.894 disability issue, there it be 2016-08-06 11:10:16.906 discussion with the designers 2016-08-06 11:10:16.892 discussion with the designers 2016-08-06 11:10:21.906 around any potential set issues. 2016-08-06 11:10:21.891 around any potential set issues. 2016-08-06 11:10:21.892 Is there any sort of negotiation 2016-08-06 11:10:21.908 Is there any sort of negotiation 2016-08-06 11:10:28.947 in terms of 2016-08-06 11:10:28.932 in terms of 2016-08-06 11:10:28.948 aesthetic versus 2016-08-06 11:10:28.933 aesthetic versus 2016-08-06 11:10:29.948 practicality? 2016-08-06 11:10:29.933 practicality? 2016-08-06 11:10:33.933 Regan: I will mention a couple 2016-08-06 11:10:33.953 Regan: I will mention a couple 2016-08-06 11:10:34.948 of different examples. 2016-08-06 11:10:34.933 of different examples. 2016-08-06 11:10:40.948 First, for myself 2016-08-06 11:10:40.933 First, for myself 2016-08-06 11:10:41.949 as a wheeling 2016-08-06 11:10:41.934 as a wheeling 2016-08-06 11:10:41.951 performer, sometimes costumes 2016-08-06 11:10:41.936 performer, sometimes costumes 2016-08-06 11:10:44.952 are a consideration. 2016-08-06 11:10:44.937 are a consideration. 2016-08-06 11:10:50.951 The costume department was very 2016-08-06 11:10:50.936 The costume department was very 2016-08-06 11:10:50.953 accommodating in talking to me 2016-08-06 11:10:50.938 accommodating in talking to me 2016-08-06 11:10:50.939 about what I needed and being 2016-08-06 11:10:50.955 about what I needed and being 2016-08-06 11:10:57.043 open 2016-08-06 11:10:57.028 open 2016-08-06 11:10:57.045 to here is the design but 2016-08-06 11:10:57.03 to here is the design but 2016-08-06 11:10:59.044 how do we adapt this? 2016-08-06 11:10:59.029 how do we adapt this? 2016-08-06 11:11:00.042 For instance, I was wearing a 2016-08-06 11:11:00.027 For instance, I was wearing a 2016-08-06 11:11:04.044 shawl and for those of you who 2016-08-06 11:11:04.03 shawl and for those of you who 2016-08-06 11:11:07.045 have ever wheeled with one, it 2016-08-06 11:11:07.03 have ever wheeled with one, it 2016-08-06 11:11:07.047 can easily fall off. 2016-08-06 11:11:07.032 can easily fall off. 2016-08-06 11:11:11.043 They would put little snaps at 2016-08-06 11:11:11.029 They would put little snaps at 2016-08-06 11:11:11.045 the top. 2016-08-06 11:11:11.03 the top. 2016-08-06 11:11:16.075 Similarly, I was wearing 2016-08-06 11:11:16.06 Similarly, I was wearing 2016-08-06 11:11:17.075 gloves 2016-08-06 11:11:17.06 gloves 2016-08-06 11:11:18.075 and I was thinking, pushing, 2016-08-06 11:11:18.061 and I was thinking, pushing, 2016-08-06 11:11:20.076 that will be difficult because 2016-08-06 11:11:20.061 that will be difficult because 2016-08-06 11:11:23.076 it slips, so they put some grip 2016-08-06 11:11:23.061 it slips, so they put some grip 2016-08-06 11:11:23.078 on my gloves. 2016-08-06 11:11:23.063 on my gloves. 2016-08-06 11:11:27.121 In terms of stage and, they were 2016-08-06 11:11:27.106 In terms of stage and, they were 2016-08-06 11:11:27.107 a couple of interesting 2016-08-06 11:11:27.123 a couple of interesting 2016-08-06 11:11:27.124 experiences. 2016-08-06 11:11:27.109 experiences. 2016-08-06 11:11:33.116 One, for "Much Ado 2016-08-06 11:11:33.101 One, for "Much Ado 2016-08-06 11:11:36.138 About 2016-08-06 11:11:36.123 About 2016-08-06 11:11:38.119 Nothing," it was in an 2016-08-06 11:11:38.104 Nothing," it was in an 2016-08-06 11:11:42.118 outside Villa and the one to the 2016-08-06 11:11:42.103 outside Villa and the one to the 2016-08-06 11:11:43.106 turf on the stage, so they came 2016-08-06 11:11:43.125 turf on the stage, so they came 2016-08-06 11:11:45.119 to me and said, thinking about 2016-08-06 11:11:45.105 to me and said, thinking about 2016-08-06 11:11:47.119 putting turf on the stage. 2016-08-06 11:11:47.104 putting turf on the stage. 2016-08-06 11:11:50.12 When you get to OSF, Kelly get 2016-08-06 11:11:50.105 When you get to OSF, Kelly get 2016-08-06 11:11:50.122 you different samples and have 2016-08-06 11:11:50.107 you different samples and have 2016-08-06 11:11:53.161 you dwell on them and tell us 2016-08-06 11:11:53.146 you dwell on them and tell us 2016-08-06 11:11:53.162 what works. 2016-08-06 11:11:53.147 what works. 2016-08-06 11:11:56.16 When I got to OSF, I rolled on 2016-08-06 11:11:56.145 When I got to OSF, I rolled on 2016-08-06 11:11:56.162 the two different samples and I 2016-08-06 11:11:56.147 the two different samples and I 2016-08-06 11:12:00.203 said the shorter cut works a 2016-08-06 11:12:00.188 said the shorter cut works a 2016-08-06 11:12:00.204 little better for me. 2016-08-06 11:12:00.189 little better for me. 2016-08-06 11:12:05.204 Come to first or her salon the 2016-08-06 11:12:05.189 Come to first or her salon the 2016-08-06 11:12:06.202 stage, they had chosen the other 2016-08-06 11:12:06.187 stage, they had chosen the other 2016-08-06 11:12:06.203 one. 2016-08-06 11:12:06.188 one. 2016-08-06 11:12:06.204 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 11:12:06.189 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 11:12:09.203 The longer cuts, but I 2016-08-06 11:12:09.188 The longer cuts, but I 2016-08-06 11:12:11.202 appreciate that at least they 2016-08-06 11:12:11.187 appreciate that at least they 2016-08-06 11:12:14.232 consulted me. 2016-08-06 11:12:14.217 consulted me. 2016-08-06 11:12:14.234 I think that was a really great 2016-08-06 11:12:14.219 I think that was a really great 2016-08-06 11:12:18.188 example of the ticket into 2016-08-06 11:12:18.204 example of the ticket into 2016-08-06 11:12:18.205 consideration, they still 2016-08-06 11:12:18.19 consideration, they still 2016-08-06 11:12:20.204 decided for design purposes to 2016-08-06 11:12:20.189 decided for design purposes to 2016-08-06 11:12:24.202 go with the other one, which -- 2016-08-06 11:12:24.188 go with the other one, which -- 2016-08-06 11:12:28.202 so I had to accommodate slightly 2016-08-06 11:12:28.187 so I had to accommodate slightly 2016-08-06 11:12:28.204 and they, workout pushing across 2016-08-06 11:12:28.189 and they, workout pushing across 2016-08-06 11:12:31.231 the turf every show. 2016-08-06 11:12:31.27 the turf every show. 2016-08-06 11:12:35.246 The example of thinking about it 2016-08-06 11:12:35.231 The example of thinking about it 2016-08-06 11:12:39.246 is one step, but putting it into 2016-08-06 11:12:39.231 is one step, but putting it into 2016-08-06 11:12:39.248 action is the next step. 2016-08-06 11:12:39.233 action is the next step. 2016-08-06 11:12:42.246 When I was working on my other 2016-08-06 11:12:42.232 When I was working on my other 2016-08-06 11:12:44.244 play, the Taiwanese play, we 2016-08-06 11:12:44.229 play, the Taiwanese play, we 2016-08-06 11:12:46.246 realized that going off the 2016-08-06 11:12:46.235 realized that going off the 2016-08-06 11:12:53.247 stage on one side 2016-08-06 11:12:53.232 stage on one side 2016-08-06 11:12:53.248 , there was 2016-08-06 11:12:53.233 , there was 2016-08-06 11:12:53.249 access. 2016-08-06 11:12:53.234 access. 2016-08-06 11:12:54.246 If he went off the other side 2016-08-06 11:12:54.231 If he went off the other side 2016-08-06 11:12:57.346 because of set pieces, I was not 2016-08-06 11:12:57.331 because of set pieces, I was not 2016-08-06 11:12:57.348 able to get around to go down to 2016-08-06 11:12:57.333 able to get around to go down to 2016-08-06 11:12:58.345 the dressing room. 2016-08-06 11:12:58.33 the dressing room. 2016-08-06 11:13:03.347 The director had directed me to 2016-08-06 11:13:03.332 The director had directed me to 2016-08-06 11:13:03.349 come off of the right side of 2016-08-06 11:13:03.335 come off of the right side of 2016-08-06 11:13:07.348 the stage and then it was going 2016-08-06 11:13:07.333 the stage and then it was going 2016-08-06 11:13:07.35 to hit intermission, so I was 2016-08-06 11:13:07.335 to hit intermission, so I was 2016-08-06 11:13:11.348 like, well, I am going to be 2016-08-06 11:13:11.333 like, well, I am going to be 2016-08-06 11:13:11.334 sitting on the right side of the 2016-08-06 11:13:11.35 sitting on the right side of the 2016-08-06 11:13:13.331 stage for the entire 2016-08-06 11:13:13.347 stage for the entire 2016-08-06 11:13:15.374 intermission, essentially 30 2016-08-06 11:13:15.359 intermission, essentially 30 2016-08-06 11:13:15.375 minutes. 2016-08-06 11:13:15.361 minutes. 2016-08-06 11:13:21.376 He ended up 2016-08-06 11:13:21.361 He ended up 2016-08-06 11:13:21.377 crafting this moment 2016-08-06 11:13:21.362 crafting this moment 2016-08-06 11:13:21.379 during intermission, where I 2016-08-06 11:13:21.364 during intermission, where I 2016-08-06 11:13:24.371 would cross the stage 2016-08-06 11:13:24.356 would cross the stage 2016-08-06 11:13:27.415 theatrically but it was just to 2016-08-06 11:13:27.401 theatrically but it was just to 2016-08-06 11:13:32.499 get to the other side 2016-08-06 11:13:32.484 get to the other side 2016-08-06 11:13:32.5 to go 2016-08-06 11:13:32.485 to go 2016-08-06 11:13:32.502 dancers and drink water. 2016-08-06 11:13:32.487 dancers and drink water. 2016-08-06 11:13:35.498 Ideas of how sometimes it can 2016-08-06 11:13:35.483 Ideas of how sometimes it can 2016-08-06 11:13:39.499 feel like design and 2016-08-06 11:13:39.484 feel like design and 2016-08-06 11:13:39.501 accessibility are in conflict, 2016-08-06 11:13:39.486 accessibility are in conflict, 2016-08-06 11:13:39.488 and that is really not true. 2016-08-06 11:13:39.507 and that is really not true. 2016-08-06 11:13:43.501 It is just a matter of finding 2016-08-06 11:13:43.486 It is just a matter of finding 2016-08-06 11:13:46.497 where is that middle ground and 2016-08-06 11:13:46.482 where is that middle ground and 2016-08-06 11:13:47.5 finding a compromise and 2016-08-06 11:13:47.485 finding a compromise and 2016-08-06 11:13:47.502 creative way of solving these 2016-08-06 11:13:47.487 creative way of solving these 2016-08-06 11:13:50.545 problems, but not problems but 2016-08-06 11:13:50.53 problems, but not problems but 2016-08-06 11:13:50.531 conundrums. 2016-08-06 11:13:50.547 conundrums. 2016-08-06 11:13:56.531 Christine: Tiffany -- 2016-08-06 11:13:56.547 Christine: Tiffany -- 2016-08-06 11:13:56.532 she is 2016-08-06 11:13:56.548 she is 2016-08-06 11:13:56.549 talking. 2016-08-06 11:13:56.534 talking. 2016-08-06 11:14:00.548 Can -- I just want to do a quick 2016-08-06 11:14:00.533 Can -- I just want to do a quick 2016-08-06 11:14:02.545 time check. 2016-08-06 11:14:02.53 time check. 2016-08-06 11:14:06.547 Because I want to give time for 2016-08-06 11:14:06.532 Because I want to give time for 2016-08-06 11:14:09.597 the audience to ask them 2016-08-06 11:14:09.582 the audience to ask them 2016-08-06 11:14:09.598 questions. 2016-08-06 11:14:09.583 questions. 2016-08-06 11:14:16.595 Tiffany: Greer at 11:15 2016-08-06 11:14:16.58 Tiffany: Greer at 11:15 2016-08-06 11:14:16.596 almost, 2016-08-06 11:14:16.581 almost, 2016-08-06 11:14:19.597 so if we want to go a little 2016-08-06 11:14:19.582 so if we want to go a little 2016-08-06 11:14:20.597 over because it did not start, 2016-08-06 11:14:20.582 over because it did not start, 2016-08-06 11:14:20.598 that is fine. 2016-08-06 11:14:20.584 that is fine. 2016-08-06 11:14:21.598 Let's say 10 minutes. 2016-08-06 11:14:21.583 Let's say 10 minutes. 2016-08-06 11:14:25.627 Christine: 10 minutes for this 2016-08-06 11:14:25.612 Christine: 10 minutes for this 2016-08-06 11:14:26.609 section or 10 minutes total? 2016-08-06 11:14:26.625 section or 10 minutes total? 2016-08-06 11:14:30.625 Tiffany: 10 minutes total, 2016-08-06 11:14:30.611 Tiffany: 10 minutes total, 2016-08-06 11:14:33.667 unless there are key points, but 2016-08-06 11:14:33.652 unless there are key points, but 2016-08-06 11:14:33.669 say what you need to say. 2016-08-06 11:14:33.654 say what you need to say. 2016-08-06 11:14:37.871 Julie: I wanted to add something 2016-08-06 11:14:37.856 Julie: I wanted to add something 2016-08-06 11:14:39.668 about what the aesthetics of the 2016-08-06 11:14:39.653 about what the aesthetics of the 2016-08-06 11:14:41.666 show. 2016-08-06 11:14:41.651 show. 2016-08-06 11:14:47.874 D with -- with a 2016-08-06 11:14:47.859 D with -- with a 2016-08-06 11:14:48.666 deaf actor 2016-08-06 11:14:48.651 deaf actor 2016-08-06 11:14:51.668 onstage, there will be sign 2016-08-06 11:14:51.653 onstage, there will be sign 2016-08-06 11:14:51.67 language onstage. 2016-08-06 11:14:51.655 language onstage. 2016-08-06 11:14:54.674 If you have a right-handed 2016-08-06 11:14:54.659 If you have a right-handed 2016-08-06 11:14:54.66 signer, so their right hand is 2016-08-06 11:14:54.676 signer, so their right hand is 2016-08-06 11:14:57.86 facing up stage, what they sign 2016-08-06 11:14:57.876 facing up stage, what they sign 2016-08-06 11:15:01.67 or what their fingers may not be 2016-08-06 11:15:01.655 or what their fingers may not be 2016-08-06 11:15:01.672 clear to whoever they are 2016-08-06 11:15:01.657 clear to whoever they are 2016-08-06 11:15:01.673 talking to. 2016-08-06 11:15:01.658 talking to. 2016-08-06 11:15:05.71 Part of the discussion in 2016-08-06 11:15:05.695 Part of the discussion in 2016-08-06 11:15:08.709 reversal were around who is the 2016-08-06 11:15:08.694 reversal were around who is the 2016-08-06 11:15:14.711 communication 2016-08-06 11:15:14.697 communication 2016-08-06 11:15:14.713 for? 2016-08-06 11:15:14.698 for? 2016-08-06 11:15:14.714 ? For super production, so what 2016-08-06 11:15:14.7 ? For super production, so what 2016-08-06 11:15:14.716 other character needs to see the 2016-08-06 11:15:14.701 other character needs to see the 2016-08-06 11:15:14.718 sign language 2016-08-06 11:15:14.703 sign language 2016-08-06 11:15:17.878 Who is signing to each other? 2016-08-06 11:15:17.863 Who is signing to each other? 2016-08-06 11:15:23.71 In our Elizabethan stage, 2016-08-06 11:15:23.695 In our Elizabethan stage, 2016-08-06 11:15:24.712 we do 2016-08-06 11:15:24.697 we do 2016-08-06 11:15:24.713 have several levels. 2016-08-06 11:15:24.698 have several levels. 2016-08-06 11:15:26.71 If you have two people who are 2016-08-06 11:15:26.695 If you have two people who are 2016-08-06 11:15:26.712 communicating on different 2016-08-06 11:15:26.697 communicating on different 2016-08-06 11:15:28.712 levels, they have to -- the 2016-08-06 11:15:28.697 levels, they have to -- the 2016-08-06 11:15:28.698 person on the upper level has to 2016-08-06 11:15:28.714 person on the upper level has to 2016-08-06 11:15:32.712 be close enough to the edge to 2016-08-06 11:15:32.697 be close enough to the edge to 2016-08-06 11:15:32.698 see the sign language that is 2016-08-06 11:15:32.714 see the sign language that is 2016-08-06 11:15:32.715 being done on the lower level. 2016-08-06 11:15:32.7 being done on the lower level. 2016-08-06 11:15:35.733 There were some staging and 2016-08-06 11:15:35.718 There were some staging and 2016-08-06 11:15:39.772 blocking considerations around 2016-08-06 11:15:39.757 blocking considerations around 2016-08-06 11:15:39.774 having a visual language as part 2016-08-06 11:15:39.759 having a visual language as part 2016-08-06 11:15:42.738 of the production. 2016-08-06 11:15:42.755 of the production. 2016-08-06 11:15:46.755 That is where the director and 2016-08-06 11:15:46.74 That is where the director and 2016-08-06 11:15:50.753 the actors, all of them, work 2016-08-06 11:15:50.738 the actors, all of them, work 2016-08-06 11:15:52.753 together and collaboratively to 2016-08-06 11:15:52.738 together and collaboratively to 2016-08-06 11:15:54.755 make sure that this was going to 2016-08-06 11:15:54.74 make sure that this was going to 2016-08-06 11:15:54.756 work out. 2016-08-06 11:15:54.741 work out. 2016-08-06 11:15:57.88 They also worked together to 2016-08-06 11:15:57.865 They also worked together to 2016-08-06 11:16:03.756 figure out Hughes -- c 2016-08-06 11:16:03.741 figure out Hughes -- c 2016-08-06 11:16:03.741 ues if 2016-08-06 11:16:03.757 ues if 2016-08-06 11:16:06.753 there was applause before How 2016-08-06 11:16:06.738 there was applause before How 2016-08-06 11:16:10.798 ie had a line, and if you have a 2016-08-06 11:16:10.783 ie had a line, and if you have a 2016-08-06 11:16:12.798 deaf actor who cannot do that, 2016-08-06 11:16:12.783 deaf actor who cannot do that, 2016-08-06 11:16:14.798 you need a visual cue. 2016-08-06 11:16:14.783 you need a visual cue. 2016-08-06 11:16:23.799 Other actors would move in -- 2016-08-06 11:16:23.784 Other actors would move in -- 2016-08-06 11:16:24.799 move around movements and then 2016-08-06 11:16:24.785 move around movements and then 2016-08-06 11:16:25.801 provide visual clues of so he 2016-08-06 11:16:25.786 provide visual clues of so he 2016-08-06 11:16:25.803 could say his lines at the right 2016-08-06 11:16:25.788 could say his lines at the right 2016-08-06 11:16:25.804 time. 2016-08-06 11:16:25.789 time. 2016-08-06 11:16:30.835 A lot of the time it is 2016-08-06 11:16:30.851 A lot of the time it is 2016-08-06 11:16:30.852 just one 2016-08-06 11:16:30.837 just one 2016-08-06 11:16:30.853 actor putting his hand on the 2016-08-06 11:16:30.838 actor putting his hand on the 2016-08-06 11:16:30.855 others shoulder and that was 2016-08-06 11:16:30.84 others shoulder and that was 2016-08-06 11:16:33.851 enough of a visual clue as a how 2016-08-06 11:16:33.836 enough of a visual clue as a how 2016-08-06 11:16:33.837 we. 2016-08-06 11:16:33.853 we. 2016-08-06 11:16:38.85 Nobody in the audience knew that 2016-08-06 11:16:38.835 Nobody in the audience knew that 2016-08-06 11:16:38.852 is what was going on, so there 2016-08-06 11:16:38.837 is what was going on, so there 2016-08-06 11:16:41.882 are ways within the rehearsal 2016-08-06 11:16:41.867 are ways within the rehearsal 2016-08-06 11:16:45.882 time, everyone involved in 2016-08-06 11:16:45.867 time, everyone involved in 2016-08-06 11:16:48.88 production can work together, to 2016-08-06 11:16:48.865 production can work together, to 2016-08-06 11:16:48.867 mention sure there is an 2016-08-06 11:16:48.885 mention sure there is an 2016-08-06 11:16:50.882 inclusion on stage to meet 2016-08-06 11:16:50.867 inclusion on stage to meet 2016-08-06 11:16:50.884 everyone's vacation needs. 2016-08-06 11:16:50.869 everyone's vacation needs. 2016-08-06 11:16:56.88 >> 2016-08-06 11:16:56.865 >> 2016-08-06 11:16:58.882 we haven't talked about the 2016-08-06 11:16:58.867 we haven't talked about the 2016-08-06 11:16:58.884 impact of what we are talking 2016-08-06 11:16:58.869 impact of what we are talking 2016-08-06 11:17:04.882 about, having to say 2016-08-06 11:17:04.867 about, having to say 2016-08-06 11:17:04.883 actors on 2016-08-06 11:17:04.868 actors on 2016-08-06 11:17:04.885 stage, but what is the impact on 2016-08-06 11:17:04.87 stage, but what is the impact on 2016-08-06 11:17:06.923 the audiences? 2016-08-06 11:17:06.908 the audiences? 2016-08-06 11:17:16.964 Let's use OSF 2016-08-06 11:17:16.949 Let's use OSF 2016-08-06 11:17:16.965 as the example 2016-08-06 11:17:16.95 as the example 2016-08-06 11:17:17.966 provided feedback to do get? 2016-08-06 11:17:17.951 provided feedback to do get? 2016-08-06 11:17:21.967 Regan: overwhelmingly positive 2016-08-06 11:17:21.952 Regan: overwhelmingly positive 2016-08-06 11:17:23.967 and overwhelmingly encouraging. 2016-08-06 11:17:23.952 and overwhelmingly encouraging. 2016-08-06 11:17:28.965 When I would prologue stage, -- 2016-08-06 11:17:28.95 When I would prologue stage, -- 2016-08-06 11:17:32.966 I would roll off stage, yet this 2016-08-06 11:17:32.951 I would roll off stage, yet this 2016-08-06 11:17:34.967 area called the bricks were 2016-08-06 11:17:34.952 area called the bricks were 2016-08-06 11:17:34.969 people would gather and some of 2016-08-06 11:17:34.954 people would gather and some of 2016-08-06 11:17:35.967 them would not realize I used a 2016-08-06 11:17:35.952 them would not realize I used a 2016-08-06 11:17:36.966 wheelchair real-life. 2016-08-06 11:17:36.951 wheelchair real-life. 2016-08-06 11:17:38.967 They thought it was the 2016-08-06 11:17:38.952 They thought it was the 2016-08-06 11:17:42.969 character choice that is a shift 2016-08-06 11:17:42.954 character choice that is a shift 2016-08-06 11:17:45.968 paralyzed is important to a 2016-08-06 11:17:45.953 paralyzed is important to a 2016-08-06 11:17:45.97 knowledge that because there is 2016-08-06 11:17:45.955 knowledge that because there is 2016-08-06 11:17:49.967 not that tradition of people at, 2016-08-06 11:17:49.952 not that tradition of people at, 2016-08-06 11:17:49.969 actors with disabilities playing 2016-08-06 11:17:49.954 actors with disabilities playing 2016-08-06 11:17:53.969 roles, people make that 2016-08-06 11:17:53.954 roles, people make that 2016-08-06 11:17:53.971 assumption that it is the 2016-08-06 11:17:53.956 assumption that it is the 2016-08-06 11:17:56.953 character choice, which I think 2016-08-06 11:17:56.955 is something good for us to 2016-08-06 11:17:56.971 character choice, which I think 2016-08-06 11:17:56.974 is something good for us to 2016-08-06 11:17:58.966 realize. 2016-08-06 11:17:58.951 realize. 2016-08-06 11:18:02.967 There is still the ground to be 2016-08-06 11:18:02.952 There is still the ground to be 2016-08-06 11:18:03.968 covered in terms of changing 2016-08-06 11:18:03.953 covered in terms of changing 2016-08-06 11:18:04.968 that tradition. 2016-08-06 11:18:04.953 that tradition. 2016-08-06 11:18:10.967 Some people might think 2016-08-06 11:18:10.952 Some people might think 2016-08-06 11:18:10.968 that 2016-08-06 11:18:10.953 that 2016-08-06 11:18:11.969 actor may actually have a 2016-08-06 11:18:11.954 actor may actually have a 2016-08-06 11:18:11.955 disability. 2016-08-06 11:18:11.971 disability. 2016-08-06 11:18:15.009 Everybody I encountered said, 2016-08-06 11:18:14.994 Everybody I encountered said, 2016-08-06 11:18:16.011 this is something we have been 2016-08-06 11:18:15.996 this is something we have been 2016-08-06 11:18:17.011 waiting for it. 2016-08-06 11:18:16.996 waiting for it. 2016-08-06 11:18:17.012 We are so glad that OSF is doing 2016-08-06 11:18:17.013 it. 2016-08-06 11:18:16.998 We are so glad that OSF is doing 2016-08-06 11:18:16.999 it. 2016-08-06 11:18:23.011 I 2016-08-06 11:18:22.996 I 2016-08-06 11:18:23.012 think if there is a takeaway, 2016-08-06 11:18:22.997 think if there is a takeaway, 2016-08-06 11:18:23.014 one takeaway I would like to 2016-08-06 11:18:22.999 one takeaway I would like to 2016-08-06 11:18:27.996 offer from today is it is 2016-08-06 11:18:28.012 offer from today is it is 2016-08-06 11:18:28.013 important to think about 2016-08-06 11:18:27.998 important to think about 2016-08-06 11:18:31.01 changing the tradition of 2016-08-06 11:18:30.995 changing the tradition of 2016-08-06 11:18:36.014 inclusive casting and that 2016-08-06 11:18:35.999 inclusive casting and that 2016-08-06 11:18:36 doesn't happen with one show. 2016-08-06 11:18:36.016 doesn't happen with one show. 2016-08-06 11:18:43.011 that happens with bringing How 2016-08-06 11:18:42.996 that happens with bringing How 2016-08-06 11:18:43.012 ie 2016-08-06 11:18:42.997 ie 2016-08-06 11:18:43.014 back for seven seasons and not 2016-08-06 11:18:42.999 back for seven seasons and not 2016-08-06 11:18:47.052 just bringing Howie back. 2016-08-06 11:18:47.037 just bringing Howie back. 2016-08-06 11:18:49.05 It happens with bringing in a 2016-08-06 11:18:49.035 It happens with bringing in a 2016-08-06 11:18:54.039 Regan or making 5% or 10% of the 2016-08-06 11:18:54.06 Regan or making 2016-08-06 11:18:54.061 5% or 10% of the 2016-08-06 11:18:57.053 company, inclusive of companies 2016-08-06 11:18:57.038 company, inclusive of companies 2016-08-06 11:18:57.055 with disabilities. 2016-08-06 11:18:57.04 with disabilities. 2016-08-06 11:19:00.053 When you do with a company 2016-08-06 11:19:00.038 When you do with a company 2016-08-06 11:19:04.103 of a hundred actors, and OSF 2016-08-06 11:19:04.088 of a hundred actors, and OSF 2016-08-06 11:19:05.156 does a lot around inclusion, so 2016-08-06 11:19:05.144 does a lot around inclusion, so 2016-08-06 11:19:07.18 sometimes they are just unique 2016-08-06 11:19:07.165 sometimes they are just unique 2016-08-06 11:19:07.182 requirements in terms of 2016-08-06 11:19:07.167 requirements in terms of 2016-08-06 11:19:07.168 material they are doing. 2016-08-06 11:19:07.184 material they are doing. 2016-08-06 11:19:10.164 That is another piece, choosing 2016-08-06 11:19:10.18 That is another piece, choosing 2016-08-06 11:19:12.222 material, and what are the 2016-08-06 11:19:12.208 material, and what are the 2016-08-06 11:19:13.221 stories you are putting up 2016-08-06 11:19:13.206 stories you are putting up 2016-08-06 11:19:13.222 there? 2016-08-06 11:19:13.207 there? 2016-08-06 11:19:16.265 When you are just thinking of 2016-08-06 11:19:16.25 When you are just thinking of 2016-08-06 11:19:21.303 what inclusion means, 2016-08-06 11:19:21.288 what inclusion means, 2016-08-06 11:19:21.289 it is 2016-08-06 11:19:21.305 it is 2016-08-06 11:19:21.306 always importance, and I do most 2016-08-06 11:19:21.291 always importance, and I do most 2016-08-06 11:19:25.303 of us in this room know this, 2016-08-06 11:19:25.289 of us in this room know this, 2016-08-06 11:19:25.305 that disability is something 2016-08-06 11:19:25.29 that disability is something 2016-08-06 11:19:29.303 that can affect everyone and 2016-08-06 11:19:29.288 that can affect everyone and 2016-08-06 11:19:29.305 probably will affect anyone. 2016-08-06 11:19:29.29 probably will affect anyone. 2016-08-06 11:19:32.305 It is usually represented in our 2016-08-06 11:19:32.29 It is usually represented in our 2016-08-06 11:19:32.307 human population. 2016-08-06 11:19:32.292 human population. 2016-08-06 11:19:35.304 I think it is 15% -- 2016-08-06 11:19:35.289 I think it is 15% -- 2016-08-06 11:19:42.306 Almost 20% and with this 2016-08-06 11:19:42.291 Almost 20% and with this 2016-08-06 11:19:42.307 ability. 2016-08-06 11:19:42.292 ability. 2016-08-06 11:19:46.342 There is no way that you can 2016-08-06 11:19:46.358 There is no way that you can 2016-08-06 11:19:55.352 leave out disability 2016-08-06 11:19:55.337 leave out disability 2016-08-06 11:19:55.353 and I will 2016-08-06 11:19:55.338 and I will 2016-08-06 11:19:55.355 not pass the mic. 2016-08-06 11:19:55.34 not pass the mic. 2016-08-06 11:20:00.403 Christine: 2016-08-06 11:20:00.388 Christine: 2016-08-06 11:20:00.404 any closing thoughts 2016-08-06 11:20:00.389 any closing thoughts 2016-08-06 11:20:02.404 before we open it up. 2016-08-06 11:20:02.389 before we open it up. 2016-08-06 11:20:02.406 We have time for like two 2016-08-06 11:20:02.391 We have time for like two 2016-08-06 11:20:02.392 questions. 2016-08-06 11:20:02.411 questions. 2016-08-06 11:20:06.405 If you have a burning desire to 2016-08-06 11:20:06.39 If you have a burning desire to 2016-08-06 11:20:06.391 say something, please, do. 2016-08-06 11:20:06.407 say something, please, do. 2016-08-06 11:20:10.389 OK, to be happening questions. 2016-08-06 11:20:10.405 OK, to be happening questions. 2016-08-06 11:20:13.402 Yes? 2016-08-06 11:20:13.387 Yes? 2016-08-06 11:20:15.431 Microphone is coming your way. 2016-08-06 11:20:15.416 Microphone is coming your way. 2016-08-06 11:20:23.515 Kristin: Hi, I am Kristin from 2016-08-06 11:20:23.5 Kristin: Hi, I am Kristin from 2016-08-06 11:20:23.501 its birth. 2016-08-06 11:20:23.517 its birth. 2016-08-06 11:20:27.516 I have a question and may not be 2016-08-06 11:20:27.501 I have a question and may not be 2016-08-06 11:20:27.518 the best given the amount of 2016-08-06 11:20:27.503 the best given the amount of 2016-08-06 11:20:29.516 time because it would take a 2016-08-06 11:20:29.501 time because it would take a 2016-08-06 11:20:29.502 long discussion. 2016-08-06 11:20:29.518 long discussion. 2016-08-06 11:20:33.5 Maybe it is something that will 2016-08-06 11:20:33.516 Maybe it is something that will 2016-08-06 11:20:35.515 continue throughout the day and 2016-08-06 11:20:35.5 continue throughout the day and 2016-08-06 11:20:36.516 it revolves around language. 2016-08-06 11:20:36.501 it revolves around language. 2016-08-06 11:20:41.517 As I have sat through lead 2016-08-06 11:20:41.502 As I have sat through lead 2016-08-06 11:20:47.518 sessions earlier this week 2016-08-06 11:20:47.503 sessions earlier this week 2016-08-06 11:20:47.519 , it 2016-08-06 11:20:47.504 , it 2016-08-06 11:20:47.521 excites me to have this 2016-08-06 11:20:47.506 excites me to have this 2016-08-06 11:20:47.522 conversation. 2016-08-06 11:20:47.507 conversation. 2016-08-06 11:20:53.602 Christine Kelly about 2016-08-06 11:20:53.587 Christine Kelly about 2016-08-06 11:20:55.602 -- 2016-08-06 11:20:55.587 -- 2016-08-06 11:20:56.605 Christine, you were talking 2016-08-06 11:20:56.59 Christine, you were talking 2016-08-06 11:20:56.607 about the disabled artists in 2016-08-06 11:20:56.592 about the disabled artists in 2016-08-06 11:20:56.608 worked with. 2016-08-06 11:20:56.593 worked with. 2016-08-06 11:20:59.604 We have been really big on 2016-08-06 11:20:59.589 We have been really big on 2016-08-06 11:21:03.604 people first language and using 2016-08-06 11:21:03.589 people first language and using 2016-08-06 11:21:03.606 that as our basis for how we 2016-08-06 11:21:03.591 that as our basis for how we 2016-08-06 11:21:09.653 talk about our patrons, artists 2016-08-06 11:21:09.638 talk about our patrons, artists 2016-08-06 11:21:09.654 , 2016-08-06 11:21:09.639 , 2016-08-06 11:21:09.641 but I think encountering more 2016-08-06 11:21:09.659 but I think encountering more 2016-08-06 11:21:12.656 and more artists who have 2016-08-06 11:21:12.641 and more artists who have 2016-08-06 11:21:16.655 disabilities and you are 2016-08-06 11:21:16.64 disabilities and you are 2016-08-06 11:21:16.657 flipping their back the opposite 2016-08-06 11:21:16.646 flipping their back the opposite 2016-08-06 11:21:19.655 direction and talking about as 2016-08-06 11:21:19.64 direction and talking about as 2016-08-06 11:21:26.683 sort of 2016-08-06 11:21:26.668 sort of 2016-08-06 11:21:27.783 as important in their 2016-08-06 11:21:27.768 as important in their 2016-08-06 11:21:27.785 art and identity. 2016-08-06 11:21:27.77 art and identity. 2016-08-06 11:21:28.686 I am not sure there was a right 2016-08-06 11:21:28.671 I am not sure there was a right 2016-08-06 11:21:28.687 answer. 2016-08-06 11:21:28.672 answer. 2016-08-06 11:21:32.669 Since we have all of you 2016-08-06 11:21:32.685 Since we have all of you 2016-08-06 11:21:33.683 wonderful ladies out there, just 2016-08-06 11:21:33.668 wonderful ladies out there, just 2016-08-06 11:21:35.67 sort of want to hear your 2016-08-06 11:21:35.686 sort of want to hear your 2016-08-06 11:21:35.687 perspective. 2016-08-06 11:21:35.672 perspective. 2016-08-06 11:21:41.683 Christine: personally, I prefer 2016-08-06 11:21:41.668 Christine: personally, I prefer 2016-08-06 11:21:44.686 disabled artists because it is a 2016-08-06 11:21:44.671 disabled artists because it is a 2016-08-06 11:21:47.783 term of empowerment to me. 2016-08-06 11:21:47.768 term of empowerment to me. 2016-08-06 11:21:50.772 In our organization, you use 2016-08-06 11:21:50.757 In our organization, you use 2016-08-06 11:21:50.774 them interchangeably because we 2016-08-06 11:21:50.759 them interchangeably because we 2016-08-06 11:21:53.854 understand that the industry has 2016-08-06 11:21:53.84 understand that the industry has 2016-08-06 11:21:59.89 very caught up to people 2016-08-06 11:21:59.906 very caught up to people 2016-08-06 11:21:59.891 's first 2016-08-06 11:21:59.907 's first 2016-08-06 11:21:59.908 play which comes about is that 2016-08-06 11:21:59.893 play which comes about is that 2016-08-06 11:22:03.903 we had not fully adopted using 2016-08-06 11:22:03.889 we had not fully adopted using 2016-08-06 11:22:04.906 disabled as an adjective first. 2016-08-06 11:22:04.891 disabled as an adjective first. 2016-08-06 11:22:07.905 The empowerment and social 2016-08-06 11:22:07.89 The empowerment and social 2016-08-06 11:22:09.906 justice component that we use 2016-08-06 11:22:09.891 justice component that we use 2016-08-06 11:22:09.908 them interchangeably. 2016-08-06 11:22:09.893 them interchangeably. 2016-08-06 11:22:12.906 How do you feel? 2016-08-06 11:22:12.891 How do you feel? 2016-08-06 11:22:15.891 Regan: I do not have one 2016-08-06 11:22:15.907 Regan: I do not have one 2016-08-06 11:22:15.893 perspective. 2016-08-06 11:22:15.918 perspective. 2016-08-06 11:22:23.022 Yes, I see myself as 2016-08-06 11:22:23.007 Yes, I see myself as 2016-08-06 11:22:23.008 somebody, 2016-08-06 11:22:23.024 somebody, 2016-08-06 11:22:23.009 as all of us are, all unique in 2016-08-06 11:22:23.025 as all of us are, all unique in 2016-08-06 11:22:25.022 our abilities. 2016-08-06 11:22:25.007 our abilities. 2016-08-06 11:22:30.022 I have kind of historically not 2016-08-06 11:22:30.007 I have kind of historically not 2016-08-06 11:22:30.023 gone for disabled because I just 2016-08-06 11:22:30.009 gone for disabled because I just 2016-08-06 11:22:34.02 think that I operate and I move 2016-08-06 11:22:34.005 think that I operate and I move 2016-08-06 11:22:35.027 through the world in my own 2016-08-06 11:22:35.012 through the world in my own 2016-08-06 11:22:35.029 unique way. 2016-08-06 11:22:35.014 unique way. 2016-08-06 11:22:38.022 I think the biggest thing that I 2016-08-06 11:22:38.007 I think the biggest thing that I 2016-08-06 11:22:40.02 like to emphasize in this way is 2016-08-06 11:22:40.005 like to emphasize in this way is 2016-08-06 11:22:42.02 to not let the terminology get 2016-08-06 11:22:42.005 to not let the terminology get 2016-08-06 11:22:43.021 in the way of having a 2016-08-06 11:22:43.006 in the way of having a 2016-08-06 11:22:45.021 discussion. 2016-08-06 11:22:45.006 discussion. 2016-08-06 11:22:48.021 I do not know but it is OK to 2016-08-06 11:22:48.006 I do not know but it is OK to 2016-08-06 11:22:55.104 cuss on 2016-08-06 11:22:55.089 cuss on 2016-08-06 11:22:58.106 HowlRoun 2016-08-06 11:22:58.091 HowlRoun 2016-08-06 11:22:58.107 d,but we 2016-08-06 11:22:58.092 d,but we 2016-08-06 11:23:01.107 will all fuck up. 2016-08-06 11:23:01.092 will all fuck up. 2016-08-06 11:23:01.109 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 11:23:01.094 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 11:23:04.105 If you have a problem, ask 2016-08-06 11:23:04.09 If you have a problem, ask 2016-08-06 11:23:06.107 someone about the terminology 2016-08-06 11:23:06.092 someone about the terminology 2016-08-06 11:23:10.155 they use and get over it. 2016-08-06 11:23:10.141 they use and get over it. 2016-08-06 11:23:11.156 Do not like that cold us up on 2016-08-06 11:23:11.141 Do not like that cold us up on 2016-08-06 11:23:13.158 having the more difficult parts 2016-08-06 11:23:13.143 having the more difficult parts 2016-08-06 11:23:13.144 of that discussion on how we 2016-08-06 11:23:13.16 of that discussion on how we 2016-08-06 11:23:14.155 just get actors on stage. 2016-08-06 11:23:14.14 just get actors on stage. 2016-08-06 11:23:19.155 Christine: I think if we have 2016-08-06 11:23:19.141 Christine: I think if we have 2016-08-06 11:23:22.156 one huge takeaway from today, if 2016-08-06 11:23:22.142 one huge takeaway from today, if 2016-08-06 11:23:24.155 we had to take one, I would say 2016-08-06 11:23:24.14 we had to take one, I would say 2016-08-06 11:23:27.156 talk to the artist. 2016-08-06 11:23:27.141 talk to the artist. 2016-08-06 11:23:29.156 Consult the artist because they 2016-08-06 11:23:29.141 Consult the artist because they 2016-08-06 11:23:30.155 are going to know what is best 2016-08-06 11:23:30.141 are going to know what is best 2016-08-06 11:23:33.156 for them and what they prefer 2016-08-06 11:23:33.141 for them and what they prefer 2016-08-06 11:23:35.144 instead of making assumptions 2016-08-06 11:23:35.16 instead of making assumptions 2016-08-06 11:23:35.146 about what you think they will 2016-08-06 11:23:35.162 about what you think they will 2016-08-06 11:23:36.156 prefer and what you think they 2016-08-06 11:23:36.142 prefer and what you think they 2016-08-06 11:23:39.157 will be preferred to be called. 2016-08-06 11:23:39.142 will be preferred to be called. 2016-08-06 11:23:43.156 If we had to choose one, which 2016-08-06 11:23:43.141 If we had to choose one, which 2016-08-06 11:23:46.205 we do not, that would be my one. 2016-08-06 11:23:46.19 we do not, that would be my one. 2016-08-06 11:23:51.208 Julie: one of the benefits we 2016-08-06 11:23:51.193 Julie: one of the benefits we 2016-08-06 11:23:53.208 have seen from the open dialogue 2016-08-06 11:23:53.194 have seen from the open dialogue 2016-08-06 11:23:53.21 series that happened every two 2016-08-06 11:23:53.196 series that happened every two 2016-08-06 11:23:56.232 weeks is that we are learning 2016-08-06 11:23:56.217 weeks is that we are learning 2016-08-06 11:23:58.274 how to talk about these issues. 2016-08-06 11:23:58.259 how to talk about these issues. 2016-08-06 11:24:02.274 Even though we have great 2016-08-06 11:24:02.259 Even though we have great 2016-08-06 11:24:02.276 support from our leadership team 2016-08-06 11:24:02.261 support from our leadership team 2016-08-06 11:24:04.273 from the artistic director and 2016-08-06 11:24:04.259 from the artistic director and 2016-08-06 11:24:07.274 executive director, we have it 2016-08-06 11:24:07.259 executive director, we have it 2016-08-06 11:24:09.277 in our mission statement, not 2016-08-06 11:24:09.263 in our mission statement, not 2016-08-06 11:24:09.279 everyone in our organization is 2016-08-06 11:24:09.265 everyone in our organization is 2016-08-06 11:24:11.259 in the same place on this 2016-08-06 11:24:11.275 in the same place on this 2016-08-06 11:24:15.275 journey of learning on how to 2016-08-06 11:24:15.26 journey of learning on how to 2016-08-06 11:24:16.276 talk about diversity, inclusion 2016-08-06 11:24:16.261 talk about diversity, inclusion 2016-08-06 11:24:16.278 and accessibility. 2016-08-06 11:24:16.263 and accessibility. 2016-08-06 11:24:18.261 Having these regular discussions 2016-08-06 11:24:18.277 Having these regular discussions 2016-08-06 11:24:22.316 on the topics, we are all 2016-08-06 11:24:22.301 on the topics, we are all 2016-08-06 11:24:23.318 learning how to talk about it 2016-08-06 11:24:23.303 learning how to talk about it 2016-08-06 11:24:24.317 and how to be comfortable with 2016-08-06 11:24:24.302 and how to be comfortable with 2016-08-06 11:24:28.407 the words coming out of our 2016-08-06 11:24:28.392 the words coming out of our 2016-08-06 11:24:29.477 mouth or off of our hands, so 2016-08-06 11:24:29.462 mouth or off of our hands, so 2016-08-06 11:24:29.479 that is one of the benefits of 2016-08-06 11:24:29.464 that is one of the benefits of 2016-08-06 11:24:31.459 having the open dialogue series. 2016-08-06 11:24:31.444 having the open dialogue series. 2016-08-06 11:24:35.458 We come up with a lot of ideas 2016-08-06 11:24:35.443 We come up with a lot of ideas 2016-08-06 11:24:36.46 and not a lot of answers but we 2016-08-06 11:24:36.445 and not a lot of answers but we 2016-08-06 11:24:36.461 ask a lot of questions. 2016-08-06 11:24:36.446 ask a lot of questions. 2016-08-06 11:24:41.48 >> I have a question for you 2016-08-06 11:24:41.465 >> I have a question for you 2016-08-06 11:24:41.481 . 2016-08-06 11:24:41.466 . 2016-08-06 11:24:42.485 As you were talking, I was 2016-08-06 11:24:42.47 As you were talking, I was 2016-08-06 11:24:45.499 thinking my own scenario, 2016-08-06 11:24:45.484 thinking my own scenario, 2016-08-06 11:24:49.485 teaching at Duke and the head of 2016-08-06 11:24:49.471 teaching at Duke and the head of 2016-08-06 11:24:54.484 the arts program there is 2016-08-06 11:24:54.469 the arts program there is 2016-08-06 11:24:58.486 hearing-impaired and is a 2016-08-06 11:24:58.471 hearing-impaired and is a 2016-08-06 11:24:58.488 musician, so we thought, we have 2016-08-06 11:24:58.473 musician, so we thought, we have 2016-08-06 11:25:01.493 got to get him to think of being 2016-08-06 11:25:01.478 got to get him to think of being 2016-08-06 11:25:03.471 a part of the disabled community 2016-08-06 11:25:03.487 a part of the disabled community 2016-08-06 11:25:05.487 so we can get him to loosen up 2016-08-06 11:25:05.472 so we can get him to loosen up 2016-08-06 11:25:06.526 some pursestrings. 2016-08-06 11:25:06.511 some pursestrings. 2016-08-06 11:25:07.568 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 11:25:07.553 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 11:25:10.595 Just practical thinking there, 2016-08-06 11:25:10.611 Just practical thinking there, 2016-08-06 11:25:13.613 strategic, maybe. 2016-08-06 11:25:13.598 strategic, maybe. 2016-08-06 11:25:13.615 I was wondering what it was at 2016-08-06 11:25:13.6 I was wondering what it was at 2016-08-06 11:25:16.611 OSF that provided the impetus 2016-08-06 11:25:16.596 OSF that provided the impetus 2016-08-06 11:25:21.611 for them to relate jump on board 2016-08-06 11:25:21.596 for them to relate jump on board 2016-08-06 11:25:23.611 for them -- for them to jump on 2016-08-06 11:25:23.596 for them -- for them to jump on 2016-08-06 11:25:24.611 board and make them engage in 2016-08-06 11:25:24.596 board and make them engage in 2016-08-06 11:25:25.614 this? 2016-08-06 11:25:25.599 this? 2016-08-06 11:25:30.612 I mean other places did not jump 2016-08-06 11:25:30.597 I mean other places did not jump 2016-08-06 11:25:30.598 on board. 2016-08-06 11:25:30.614 on board. 2016-08-06 11:25:35.618 Was it a person? 2016-08-06 11:25:35.603 Was it a person? 2016-08-06 11:25:35.62 Wasn't going to lead somewhere 2016-08-06 11:25:35.605 Wasn't going to lead somewhere 2016-08-06 11:25:35.621 along the line? 2016-08-06 11:25:35.606 along the line? 2016-08-06 11:25:41.642 Regan: I think it 2016-08-06 11:25:41.658 Regan: I think it 2016-08-06 11:25:42.708 always 2016-08-06 11:25:42.693 always 2016-08-06 11:25:43.709 probably originates with people 2016-08-06 11:25:43.694 probably originates with people 2016-08-06 11:25:44.694 because we are also dealing with 2016-08-06 11:25:44.71 because we are also dealing with 2016-08-06 11:25:44.711 an art form that deals with 2016-08-06 11:25:44.696 an art form that deals with 2016-08-06 11:25:46.708 people. 2016-08-06 11:25:46.693 people. 2016-08-06 11:25:50.708 I do not know who, but I think 2016-08-06 11:25:50.693 I do not know who, but I think 2016-08-06 11:25:51.71 it is a combination of patrons 2016-08-06 11:25:51.695 it is a combination of patrons 2016-08-06 11:25:53.738 that wanted it, Bill realizing 2016-08-06 11:25:53.723 that wanted it, Bill realizing 2016-08-06 11:25:54.737 that we want to reflect the 2016-08-06 11:25:54.722 that we want to reflect the 2016-08-06 11:25:56.738 world, and the world includes 2016-08-06 11:25:56.723 world, and the world includes 2016-08-06 11:26:02.738 people with disabilities, 2016-08-06 11:26:02.739 and 2016-08-06 11:26:02.724 people with disabilities, 2016-08-06 11:26:02.725 and 2016-08-06 11:26:04.74 company members and bringing in 2016-08-06 11:26:04.725 company members and bringing in 2016-08-06 11:26:04.742 people that do have disabilities 2016-08-06 11:26:04.727 people that do have disabilities 2016-08-06 11:26:04.728 and then all of a sudden 2016-08-06 11:26:04.744 and then all of a sudden 2016-08-06 11:26:06.737 becoming aware of where you are 2016-08-06 11:26:06.722 becoming aware of where you are 2016-08-06 11:26:07.879 missing the boat. 2016-08-06 11:26:07.864 missing the boat. 2016-08-06 11:26:12.863 I do not think it is -- I do not 2016-08-06 11:26:12.849 I do not think it is -- I do not 2016-08-06 11:26:12.865 know there was one person, but 2016-08-06 11:26:12.85 know there was one person, but 2016-08-06 11:26:15.863 it all comes when people. 2016-08-06 11:26:15.849 it all comes when people. 2016-08-06 11:26:15.865 That is another takeaway. 2016-08-06 11:26:15.85 That is another takeaway. 2016-08-06 11:26:20.907 For any of 2016-08-06 11:26:20.892 For any of 2016-08-06 11:26:22.909 us patronizing the 2016-08-06 11:26:22.894 us patronizing the 2016-08-06 11:26:23.91 arts or involved in the arts, it 2016-08-06 11:26:23.895 arts or involved in the arts, it 2016-08-06 11:26:24.908 is a group effort. 2016-08-06 11:26:24.894 is a group effort. 2016-08-06 11:26:28.958 Therefore, it cannot just be the 2016-08-06 11:26:28.943 Therefore, it cannot just be the 2016-08-06 11:26:30.944 actors with disabilities that 2016-08-06 11:26:30.96 actors with disabilities that 2016-08-06 11:26:31.962 are advocating for the 2016-08-06 11:26:31.947 are advocating for the 2016-08-06 11:26:31.964 accessibility to continue beyond 2016-08-06 11:26:31.949 accessibility to continue beyond 2016-08-06 11:26:34.959 the audience. 2016-08-06 11:26:34.944 the audience. 2016-08-06 11:26:35.96 It has to be the people that are 2016-08-06 11:26:35.945 It has to be the people that are 2016-08-06 11:26:37.961 going to the show saying, hey, 2016-08-06 11:26:37.946 going to the show saying, hey, 2016-08-06 11:26:40.958 we really enjoyed seeing Howie, 2016-08-06 11:26:40.943 we really enjoyed seeing Howie, 2016-08-06 11:26:46.986 "Spring 2016-08-06 11:26:47.002 "Spring 2016-08-06 11:26:47.003 Awakening," we want to 2016-08-06 11:26:46.988 Awakening," we want to 2016-08-06 11:26:47.99 see more. 2016-08-06 11:26:47.975 see more. 2016-08-06 11:26:50.99 As might community institution, 2016-08-06 11:26:50.976 As might community institution, 2016-08-06 11:26:50.992 you need to be doing this and 2016-08-06 11:26:50.978 you need to be doing this and 2016-08-06 11:26:52.989 continue to get that feedback to 2016-08-06 11:26:52.974 continue to get that feedback to 2016-08-06 11:26:54.994 the cultural leaders. 2016-08-06 11:26:54.979 the cultural leaders. 2016-08-06 11:27:00.033 I think in Ashland, 2016-08-06 11:27:00.018 I think in Ashland, 2016-08-06 11:27:00.034 that has 2016-08-06 11:27:00.019 that has 2016-08-06 11:27:01.033 been happening, but that does 2016-08-06 11:27:01.018 been happening, but that does 2016-08-06 11:27:01.035 not mean it cannot happen more. 2016-08-06 11:27:01.02 not mean it cannot happen more. 2016-08-06 11:27:05.075 The arts are based on demand a 2016-08-06 11:27:05.076 lot of the time. 2016-08-06 11:27:05.061 The arts are based on demand a 2016-08-06 11:27:05.062 lot of the time. 2016-08-06 11:27:08.118 It is based on artistic vision 2016-08-06 11:27:08.103 It is based on artistic vision 2016-08-06 11:27:10.16 and who is coming to see it and 2016-08-06 11:27:10.145 and who is coming to see it and 2016-08-06 11:27:11.165 what do they want? 2016-08-06 11:27:11.151 what do they want? 2016-08-06 11:27:15.161 The more we give that feedback 2016-08-06 11:27:15.146 The more we give that feedback 2016-08-06 11:27:15.148 to our theaters and cultural 2016-08-06 11:27:15.166 to our theaters and cultural 2016-08-06 11:27:20.194 institutions 2016-08-06 11:27:20.21 institutions 2016-08-06 11:27:21.212 and the more they 2016-08-06 11:27:21.197 and the more they 2016-08-06 11:27:21.213 demand to see, the more you will 2016-08-06 11:27:21.213 see of it. 2016-08-06 11:27:21.199 demand to see, the more you will 2016-08-06 11:27:21.205 see of it. 2016-08-06 11:27:24.223 Christine: as organizations, we 2016-08-06 11:27:24.208 Christine: as organizations, we 2016-08-06 11:27:27.21 have to remember that if it 2016-08-06 11:27:27.195 have to remember that if it 2016-08-06 11:27:28.211 starts with one person, it 2016-08-06 11:27:28.196 starts with one person, it 2016-08-06 11:27:28.213 should not end when that 2016-08-06 11:27:28.198 should not end when that 2016-08-06 11:27:32.211 person's tenure is over, which 2016-08-06 11:27:32.196 person's tenure is over, which 2016-08-06 11:27:32.213 is often what happens. 2016-08-06 11:27:32.198 is often what happens. 2016-08-06 11:27:35.21 If a particular artistic 2016-08-06 11:27:35.195 If a particular artistic 2016-08-06 11:27:37.21 director has commitments to an 2016-08-06 11:27:37.195 director has commitments to an 2016-08-06 11:27:41.21 issue, often, it just dies after 2016-08-06 11:27:41.195 issue, often, it just dies after 2016-08-06 11:27:44.243 that person leaves that 2016-08-06 11:27:44.228 that person leaves that 2016-08-06 11:27:44.245 position, and we have to 2016-08-06 11:27:44.23 position, and we have to 2016-08-06 11:27:46.227 remember that what we are trying 2016-08-06 11:27:46.243 remember that what we are trying 2016-08-06 11:27:49.242 to do was change the culture of 2016-08-06 11:27:49.228 to do was change the culture of 2016-08-06 11:27:50.243 the institution so that 2016-08-06 11:27:50.228 the institution so that 2016-08-06 11:27:52.243 diversity inclusion is part of 2016-08-06 11:27:52.228 diversity inclusion is part of 2016-08-06 11:27:57.368 everything from the top down 2016-08-06 11:27:57.353 everything from the top down 2016-08-06 11:27:57.369 , to 2016-08-06 11:27:57.354 , to 2016-08-06 11:27:58.412 the boardroom, to the actors on 2016-08-06 11:27:58.397 the boardroom, to the actors on 2016-08-06 11:27:58.414 stage, and everything in 2016-08-06 11:27:58.399 stage, and everything in 2016-08-06 11:27:58.415 between. 2016-08-06 11:27:58.4 between. 2016-08-06 11:28:01.46 Julie: our mission statement 2016-08-06 11:28:01.445 Julie: our mission statement 2016-08-06 11:28:07.462 includes inclusion, 2016-08-06 11:28:07.447 includes inclusion, 2016-08-06 11:28:07.463 and one of 2016-08-06 11:28:07.448 and one of 2016-08-06 11:28:07.465 the waste that we are showing 2016-08-06 11:28:07.45 the waste that we are showing 2016-08-06 11:28:10.461 that to the community is in all 2016-08-06 11:28:10.446 that to the community is in all 2016-08-06 11:28:15.464 of our job postings, it has got 2016-08-06 11:28:15.449 of our job postings, it has got 2016-08-06 11:28:16.461 the job description, and at the 2016-08-06 11:28:16.446 the job description, and at the 2016-08-06 11:28:17.462 bottom, there is a statement 2016-08-06 11:28:17.447 bottom, there is a statement 2016-08-06 11:28:19.494 about diversity and inclusion at 2016-08-06 11:28:19.479 about diversity and inclusion at 2016-08-06 11:28:21.493 the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, 2016-08-06 11:28:21.478 the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, 2016-08-06 11:28:24.495 so if you do not or are not 2016-08-06 11:28:24.48 so if you do not or are not 2016-08-06 11:28:26.521 interested in that, do not apply 2016-08-06 11:28:26.537 interested in that, do not apply 2016-08-06 11:28:29.576 because for all of our outward 2016-08-06 11:28:29.561 because for all of our outward 2016-08-06 11:28:32.577 facing positions at all levels, 2016-08-06 11:28:32.562 facing positions at all levels, 2016-08-06 11:28:34.577 part of the interview process is 2016-08-06 11:28:34.562 part of the interview process is 2016-08-06 11:28:38.577 an interview with the diversity 2016-08-06 11:28:38.562 an interview with the diversity 2016-08-06 11:28:39.578 planning Council, and I have 2016-08-06 11:28:39.563 planning Council, and I have 2016-08-06 11:28:39.58 been on plenty of those 2016-08-06 11:28:39.565 been on plenty of those 2016-08-06 11:28:41.577 interviews. 2016-08-06 11:28:41.562 interviews. 2016-08-06 11:28:43.578 There are usually three of us 2016-08-06 11:28:43.563 There are usually three of us 2016-08-06 11:28:48.579 are five of us from DIPC, and it 2016-08-06 11:28:48.564 are five of us from DIPC, and it 2016-08-06 11:28:53.577 is obvious which candidates have 2016-08-06 11:28:53.562 is obvious which candidates have 2016-08-06 11:28:54.58 either never thought about 2016-08-06 11:28:54.565 either never thought about 2016-08-06 11:28:54.582 diversity and inclusion, even 2016-08-06 11:28:54.567 diversity and inclusion, even 2016-08-06 11:28:56.579 though it is written into the 2016-08-06 11:28:56.564 though it is written into the 2016-08-06 11:29:02.68 job announcement, or 2016-08-06 11:29:02.665 job announcement, or 2016-08-06 11:29:02.681 are not 2016-08-06 11:29:02.666 are not 2016-08-06 11:29:02.667 interested in it or are 2016-08-06 11:29:02.683 interested in it or are 2016-08-06 11:29:06.647 interested but not -- but do not 2016-08-06 11:29:06.663 interested but not -- but do not 2016-08-06 11:29:08.663 know how to talk about it, so 2016-08-06 11:29:08.648 know how to talk about it, so 2016-08-06 11:29:09.661 that has been very clear as 2016-08-06 11:29:09.646 that has been very clear as 2016-08-06 11:29:11.668 well, and that is something we 2016-08-06 11:29:11.653 well, and that is something we 2016-08-06 11:29:11.67 do on all of our job 2016-08-06 11:29:11.655 do on all of our job 2016-08-06 11:29:13.666 descriptions, from leadership 2016-08-06 11:29:13.651 descriptions, from leadership 2016-08-06 11:29:17.803 positions, down to house staff 2016-08-06 11:29:17.788 positions, down to house staff 2016-08-06 11:29:17.805 and other positions. 2016-08-06 11:29:17.79 and other positions. 2016-08-06 11:29:20.765 That is something small that 2016-08-06 11:29:20.75 That is something small that 2016-08-06 11:29:24.834 your organization can do, as 2016-08-06 11:29:24.819 your organization can do, as 2016-08-06 11:29:24.836 well, to make people aware of 2016-08-06 11:29:24.821 well, to make people aware of 2016-08-06 11:29:25.87 what they are doing. 2016-08-06 11:29:25.855 what they are doing. 2016-08-06 11:29:27.961 There was one other thing. 2016-08-06 11:29:27.946 There was one other thing. 2016-08-06 11:29:31.946 Oh, our Board of Directors has 2016-08-06 11:29:31.962 Oh, our Board of Directors has 2016-08-06 11:29:35.982 several subcommittees, the 2016-08-06 11:29:35.967 several subcommittees, the 2016-08-06 11:29:36.982 finance committee, and they now 2016-08-06 11:29:36.967 finance committee, and they now 2016-08-06 11:29:36.984 have a diversity and inclusion 2016-08-06 11:29:36.969 have a diversity and inclusion 2016-08-06 11:29:36.985 subcommittee. 2016-08-06 11:29:36.97 subcommittee. 2016-08-06 11:29:47.123 And their people think 2016-08-06 11:29:47.108 And their people think 2016-08-06 11:29:47.124 and how 2016-08-06 11:29:47.109 and how 2016-08-06 11:29:51.125 to make our board more diverse 2016-08-06 11:29:51.11 to make our board more diverse 2016-08-06 11:29:51.127 and how that impacts the rest of 2016-08-06 11:29:51.112 and how that impacts the rest of 2016-08-06 11:29:52.121 the organization. 2016-08-06 11:29:52.106 the organization. 2016-08-06 11:29:56.123 It is not just one person. 2016-08-06 11:29:56.108 It is not just one person. 2016-08-06 11:29:57.123 We are very lucky that we have 2016-08-06 11:29:57.108 We are very lucky that we have 2016-08-06 11:30:03.122 built as artist -- Bill as 2016-08-06 11:30:03.107 built as artist -- Bill as 2016-08-06 11:30:04.136 our 2016-08-06 11:30:04.121 our 2016-08-06 11:30:04.137 director and our Board of 2016-08-06 11:30:04.122 director and our Board of 2016-08-06 11:30:09.167 Directors is on 2016-08-06 11:30:09.168 board with this, 2016-08-06 11:30:09.153 Directors is on 2016-08-06 11:30:09.154 board with this, 2016-08-06 11:30:16.523 no pun intended, so it 2016-08-06 11:30:16.508 no pun intended, so it 2016-08-06 11:30:16.525 So it helps that we have 2016-08-06 11:30:16.51 So it helps that we have 2016-08-06 11:30:20.523 organizational wide support. 2016-08-06 11:30:20.508 organizational wide support. 2016-08-06 11:30:27.647 It really helps to have that 2016-08-06 11:30:27.663 It really helps to have that 2016-08-06 11:30:27.649 commitment for the leadership. 2016-08-06 11:30:27.672 commitment for the leadership. 2016-08-06 11:30:31.666 >> Re: good? 2016-08-06 11:30:31.651 >> Re: good? 2016-08-06 11:30:37.672 >> we will try to take 2016-08-06 11:30:37.657 >> we will try to take 2016-08-06 11:30:37.673 a break. 2016-08-06 11:30:37.658 a break. 2016-08-06 11:30:38.665 We will keep it to 10 minutes 2016-08-06 11:30:38.653 We will keep it to 10 minutes 2016-08-06 11:30:41.672 and keep it at 11:40. 2016-08-06 11:30:41.657 and keep it at 11:40. 2016-08-06 11:30:45.691 >> thank you so much. 2016-08-06 11:30:45.676 >> thank you so much. 2016-08-06 11:30:47.695 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 11:30:47.68 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 11:30:55.695 I would encourage everyone, 2016-08-06 11:30:55.68 I would encourage everyone, 2016-08-06 11:30:56.733 because we had to cut the Q and 2016-08-06 11:30:56.719 because we had to cut the Q and 2016-08-06 11:31:01.718 a session a little short, please 2016-08-06 11:31:01.734 a session a little short, please 2016-08-06 11:31:01.72 write it down on your post-its. 2016-08-06 11:31:01.736 write it down on your post-its. 2016-08-06 11:31:03.721 We will have time at the end of 2016-08-06 11:31:03.737 We will have time at the end of 2016-08-06 11:31:08.735 the day to address any 2016-08-06 11:31:08.72 the day to address any 2016-08-06 11:31:08.737 additional burning questions you 2016-08-06 11:31:08.722 additional burning questions you 2016-08-06 11:31:08.738 might have had. 2016-08-06 11:31:08.723 might have had. 2016-08-06 11:48:31.654 And 2016-08-06 11:48:31.641 And 2016-08-06 11:49:50.869 in 2016-08-06 11:49:50.854 in 2016-08-06 11:49:53.87 [NO AUDIO] 2016-08-06 11:49:53.856 [NO AUDIO] 2016-08-06 11:49:54.866 [NO AUDIO] 2016-08-06 11:49:54.851 [NO AUDIO] 2016-08-06 11:51:16.037 [NO AUDIO] 2016-08-06 11:51:16.022 [NO AUDIO] 2016-08-06 11:55:30.846 We have ramped that up since 2016-08-06 11:55:30.832 We have ramped that up since 2016-08-06 11:55:32.891 2008 or nine, before my time. 2016-08-06 11:55:32.877 2008 or nine, before my time. 2016-08-06 11:55:32.893 There is no one-size-fits-all. 2016-08-06 11:55:32.879 There is no one-size-fits-all. 2016-08-06 11:55:36.894 Accessibility is not a threshold 2016-08-06 11:55:36.88 Accessibility is not a threshold 2016-08-06 11:55:38.89 that you cross and now you are 2016-08-06 11:55:38.876 that you cross and now you are 2016-08-06 11:55:39.893 there and you are done. 2016-08-06 11:55:39.879 there and you are done. 2016-08-06 11:55:40.898 It is always a work in progress 2016-08-06 11:55:40.884 It is always a work in progress 2016-08-06 11:55:44.891 and it always involved talking 2016-08-06 11:55:44.876 and it always involved talking 2016-08-06 11:55:44.892 with the needs of individuals. 2016-08-06 11:55:44.878 with the needs of individuals. 2016-08-06 11:55:51.967 55 through 60 individuals each 2016-08-06 11:55:51.953 55 through 60 individuals each 2016-08-06 11:55:57.049 month 2016-08-06 11:55:57.034 month 2016-08-06 11:55:58.05 , it is hospitality in some 2016-08-06 11:55:58.035 , it is hospitality in some 2016-08-06 11:55:58.051 ways. 2016-08-06 11:55:58.037 ways. 2016-08-06 11:56:02.05 We are needing to serve the 2016-08-06 11:56:02.036 We are needing to serve the 2016-08-06 11:56:02.052 needs of the artists who come 2016-08-06 11:56:02.037 needs of the artists who come 2016-08-06 11:56:02.037 here. 2016-08-06 11:56:02.053 here. 2016-08-06 11:56:07.048 That is the short answer. 2016-08-06 11:56:07.034 That is the short answer. 2016-08-06 11:56:12.051 >> something that just occurred 2016-08-06 11:56:12.052 to me is what month were you in 2016-08-06 11:56:12.037 >> something that just occurred 2016-08-06 11:56:12.038 to me is what month were you in 2016-08-06 11:56:18.049 Vermont? 2016-08-06 11:56:18.034 Vermont? 2016-08-06 11:56:19.055 >> October. 2016-08-06 11:56:19.041 >> October. 2016-08-06 11:56:19.057 It was 80 degrees one day. 2016-08-06 11:56:19.042 It was 80 degrees one day. 2016-08-06 11:56:26.091 >> my question for you is as an 2016-08-06 11:56:26.077 >> my question for you is as an 2016-08-06 11:56:32.091 organization how has 2016-08-06 11:56:32.092 hosting the 2016-08-06 11:56:32.077 organization how has 2016-08-06 11:56:32.078 hosting the 2016-08-06 11:56:33.093 creative access fellows impacted 2016-08-06 11:56:33.079 creative access fellows impacted 2016-08-06 11:56:33.095 the Vermont studio Center? 2016-08-06 11:56:33.085 the Vermont studio Center? 2016-08-06 11:56:40.092 >> it has enriched the mission 2016-08-06 11:56:40.078 >> it has enriched the mission 2016-08-06 11:56:42.143 of the studio Center to be an 2016-08-06 11:56:42.128 of the studio Center to be an 2016-08-06 11:56:42.145 inclusive international 2016-08-06 11:56:42.13 inclusive international 2016-08-06 11:56:42.146 community. 2016-08-06 11:56:42.131 community. 2016-08-06 11:56:44.146 This gets to the heart of the 2016-08-06 11:56:44.131 This gets to the heart of the 2016-08-06 11:56:47.144 inclusivity ask -- inclusivity 2016-08-06 11:56:47.129 inclusivity ask -- inclusivity 2016-08-06 11:56:47.145 aspect of that. 2016-08-06 11:56:47.131 aspect of that. 2016-08-06 11:56:53.144 Creative access 2016-08-06 11:56:53.13 Creative access 2016-08-06 11:56:54.147 is a term we 2016-08-06 11:56:54.132 is a term we 2016-08-06 11:56:55.144 used to name a lot of programs. 2016-08-06 11:56:55.13 used to name a lot of programs. 2016-08-06 11:56:57.146 We have had residency 2016-08-06 11:56:57.147 fellowships for artists and 2016-08-06 11:56:57.132 We have had residency 2016-08-06 11:56:57.133 fellowships for artists and 2016-08-06 11:56:59.19 writers who are blind, those who 2016-08-06 11:56:59.176 writers who are blind, those who 2016-08-06 11:57:05.191 are deaf or hard of hearing 2016-08-06 11:57:05.192 and 2016-08-06 11:57:05.177 are deaf or hard of hearing 2016-08-06 11:57:05.178 and 2016-08-06 11:57:08.194 folks who have a spinal cord 2016-08-06 11:57:08.179 folks who have a spinal cord 2016-08-06 11:57:08.195 injury. 2016-08-06 11:57:08.181 injury. 2016-08-06 11:57:09.191 Or we have a previous 2016-08-06 11:57:09.177 Or we have a previous 2016-08-06 11:57:10.195 partnership with the Christopher 2016-08-06 11:57:10.181 partnership with the Christopher 2016-08-06 11:57:12.195 Reeve foundation and was more 2016-08-06 11:57:12.18 Reeve foundation and was more 2016-08-06 11:57:12.196 broadly for artists who use 2016-08-06 11:57:12.182 broadly for artists who use 2016-08-06 11:57:12.198 wheelchairs. 2016-08-06 11:57:12.183 wheelchairs. 2016-08-06 11:57:16.22 It wasn't limited to people who 2016-08-06 11:57:16.205 It wasn't limited to people who 2016-08-06 11:57:19.218 had a specific injury, but they 2016-08-06 11:57:19.203 had a specific injury, but they 2016-08-06 11:57:19.219 have spinal conditions and 2016-08-06 11:57:19.205 have spinal conditions and 2016-08-06 11:57:19.206 diseases. 2016-08-06 11:57:19.225 diseases. 2016-08-06 11:57:23.218 It has been enlightening. 2016-08-06 11:57:23.203 It has been enlightening. 2016-08-06 11:57:38.351 You 2016-08-06 11:57:38.336 You 2016-08-06 11:57:39.355 are taking a risk and 2016-08-06 11:57:39.341 are taking a risk and 2016-08-06 11:57:39.357 leaving behind all your regular 2016-08-06 11:57:39.347 leaving behind all your regular 2016-08-06 11:57:40.344 support systems. 2016-08-06 11:57:40.33 support systems. 2016-08-06 11:57:44.344 You are making deals with your 2016-08-06 11:57:44.33 You are making deals with your 2016-08-06 11:57:46.346 partner, your spouse, your 2016-08-06 11:57:46.332 partner, your spouse, your 2016-08-06 11:57:47.345 children, your family, maybe 2016-08-06 11:57:47.331 children, your family, maybe 2016-08-06 11:57:56.345 your employers 2016-08-06 11:57:56.33 your employers 2016-08-06 11:57:56.346 you are doing it 2016-08-06 11:57:56.347 in private. 2016-08-06 11:57:56.332 you are doing it 2016-08-06 11:57:56.333 in private. 2016-08-06 11:58:03.444 You're taken that into a new 2016-08-06 11:58:03.43 You're taken that into a new 2016-08-06 11:58:04.445 place with 5500 people and 2016-08-06 11:58:04.43 place with 5500 people and 2016-08-06 11:58:12.472 practicing in a shared space 2016-08-06 11:58:12.473 it 2016-08-06 11:58:12.458 practicing in a shared space 2016-08-06 11:58:12.459 it 2016-08-06 11:58:12.475 is really rejuvenating for the 2016-08-06 11:58:12.476 staff. 2016-08-06 11:58:12.461 is really rejuvenating for the 2016-08-06 11:58:12.462 staff. 2016-08-06 11:58:18.482 That is how we became 2016-08-06 11:58:18.468 That is how we became 2016-08-06 11:58:19.512 development director and writing 2016-08-06 11:58:19.513 director. 2016-08-06 11:58:19.498 development director and writing 2016-08-06 11:58:19.499 director. 2016-08-06 11:58:25.516 I went there one 2016-08-06 11:58:25.501 I went there one 2016-08-06 11:58:26.513 frigid January 2016-08-06 11:58:26.499 frigid January 2016-08-06 11:58:28.515 and spent the month writing and 2016-08-06 11:58:28.501 and spent the month writing and 2016-08-06 11:58:28.517 thought it was the greatest 2016-08-06 11:58:28.503 thought it was the greatest 2016-08-06 11:58:28.519 experience I have ever had. 2016-08-06 11:58:28.505 experience I have ever had. 2016-08-06 11:58:34.598 It helps all that we do and 2016-08-06 11:58:34.583 It helps all that we do and 2016-08-06 11:58:34.599 strengthens our mission. 2016-08-06 11:58:34.585 strengthens our mission. 2016-08-06 11:58:41.595 >> something they do very well 2016-08-06 11:58:41.581 >> something they do very well 2016-08-06 11:58:45.597 is always asking for feedback, 2016-08-06 11:58:45.583 is always asking for feedback, 2016-08-06 11:58:46.597 which was nice to know what they 2016-08-06 11:58:46.582 which was nice to know what they 2016-08-06 11:58:51.598 were implementing and doing was 2016-08-06 11:58:51.583 were implementing and doing was 2016-08-06 11:58:52.599 based off the actual people that 2016-08-06 11:58:52.584 based off the actual people that 2016-08-06 11:58:52.6 benefit from it. 2016-08-06 11:58:52.586 benefit from it. 2016-08-06 11:59:06.694 What are we doing and how can we 2016-08-06 11:59:06.679 What are we doing and how can we 2016-08-06 11:59:10.696 do it better?, many artists come 2016-08-06 11:59:10.682 do it better?, many artists come 2016-08-06 11:59:11.696 up with a value is being a 2016-08-06 11:59:11.682 up with a value is being a 2016-08-06 11:59:11.698 community of artists dedicated 2016-08-06 11:59:11.683 community of artists dedicated 2016-08-06 11:59:11.699 to art. 2016-08-06 11:59:11.685 to art. 2016-08-06 11:59:17.701 I have often 2016-08-06 11:59:17.686 I have often 2016-08-06 11:59:17.702 found artists with 2016-08-06 11:59:17.688 found artists with 2016-08-06 11:59:18.729 disabilities can feel isolated 2016-08-06 11:59:18.715 disabilities can feel isolated 2016-08-06 11:59:18.731 and not part of a community. 2016-08-06 11:59:18.716 and not part of a community. 2016-08-06 11:59:24.728 So my question for you is how 2016-08-06 11:59:24.713 So my question for you is how 2016-08-06 11:59:28.725 has being welcomed in this 2016-08-06 11:59:28.711 has being welcomed in this 2016-08-06 11:59:28.727 community changed your art? 2016-08-06 11:59:28.713 community changed your art? 2016-08-06 11:59:35.806 >> it has made it more focused 2016-08-06 11:59:35.792 >> it has made it more focused 2016-08-06 11:59:43.809 and kind of realized 2016-08-06 11:59:43.794 and kind of realized 2016-08-06 11:59:43.81 where I 2016-08-06 11:59:43.795 where I 2016-08-06 11:59:43.811 could go with it. 2016-08-06 11:59:43.797 could go with it. 2016-08-06 11:59:49.809 I have been playing 2016-08-06 11:59:49.809 around with 2016-08-06 11:59:49.795 I have been playing 2016-08-06 11:59:49.796 around with 2016-08-06 11:59:50.808 different kinds of mediums. 2016-08-06 11:59:50.794 different kinds of mediums. 2016-08-06 11:59:51.81 I have had the experience of 2016-08-06 11:59:51.795 I have had the experience of 2016-08-06 11:59:51.811 having to share my work in a 2016-08-06 11:59:51.797 having to share my work in a 2016-08-06 11:59:53.809 slide presentation. 2016-08-06 11:59:53.795 slide presentation. 2016-08-06 11:59:57.816 And it really made me think 2016-08-06 11:59:57.801 And it really made me think 2016-08-06 11:59:58.809 about the work I had done in the 2016-08-06 11:59:58.794 about the work I had done in the 2016-08-06 12:00:01.81 past and where I was and where I 2016-08-06 12:00:01.795 past and where I was and where I 2016-08-06 12:00:02.794 wanted to go in the future and 2016-08-06 12:00:02.795 where I wanted to go with it. 2016-08-06 12:00:02.812 wanted to go in the future and 2016-08-06 12:00:02.815 where I wanted to go with it. 2016-08-06 12:00:13.809 In the past 2016-08-06 12:00:13.795 In the past 2016-08-06 12:00:13.811 I looked at my art I 2016-08-06 12:00:13.796 I looked at my art I 2016-08-06 12:00:18.812 work -- and my art as separate 2016-08-06 12:00:18.798 work -- and my art as separate 2016-08-06 12:00:19.809 from a work. 2016-08-06 12:00:19.795 from a work. 2016-08-06 12:00:22.815 When I started this nonprofit I 2016-08-06 12:00:22.8 When I started this nonprofit I 2016-08-06 12:00:24.81 thought I would be doing this, 2016-08-06 12:00:24.797 thought I would be doing this, 2016-08-06 12:00:28.813 the nonprofit management, and I 2016-08-06 12:00:28.799 the nonprofit management, and I 2016-08-06 12:00:29.809 won't have time for the art. 2016-08-06 12:00:29.795 won't have time for the art. 2016-08-06 12:00:29.811 That was something scary for me. 2016-08-06 12:00:29.797 That was something scary for me. 2016-08-06 12:00:34.813 If I'm going to do this I'm not 2016-08-06 12:00:34.799 If I'm going to do this I'm not 2016-08-06 12:00:34.815 going to have time for it and I 2016-08-06 12:00:34.801 going to have time for it and I 2016-08-06 12:00:36.813 don't think I want that to be 2016-08-06 12:00:36.798 don't think I want that to be 2016-08-06 12:00:36.814 the case. 2016-08-06 12:00:36.8 the case. 2016-08-06 12:00:45.809 Being at this residency area 2016-08-06 12:00:45.794 Being at this residency area 2016-08-06 12:00:46.811 lies die have been doing a lot 2016-08-06 12:00:46.797 lies die have been doing a lot 2016-08-06 12:00:47.811 of art related things through 2016-08-06 12:00:47.797 of art related things through 2016-08-06 12:00:47.813 the nonprofit for awareness. 2016-08-06 12:00:47.799 the nonprofit for awareness. 2016-08-06 12:00:51.816 And I started seeing the 2016-08-06 12:00:51.802 And I started seeing the 2016-08-06 12:00:55.814 component for social justice and 2016-08-06 12:00:55.799 component for social justice and 2016-08-06 12:00:55.815 what an impact that could do. 2016-08-06 12:00:55.801 what an impact that could do. 2016-08-06 12:01:04.813 I merged my art with what I want 2016-08-06 12:01:04.799 I merged my art with what I want 2016-08-06 12:01:04.815 to say and what I want to share 2016-08-06 12:01:04.801 to say and what I want to share 2016-08-06 12:01:05.812 with the world. 2016-08-06 12:01:05.798 with the world. 2016-08-06 12:01:09.813 Not thinking of it as painting a 2016-08-06 12:01:09.799 Not thinking of it as painting a 2016-08-06 12:01:15.823 pretty picture or taking this 2016-08-06 12:01:15.809 pretty picture or taking this 2016-08-06 12:01:15.81 interesting photograph. 2016-08-06 12:01:15.812 What do I want to say with it? 2016-08-06 12:01:15.828 interesting photograph. 2016-08-06 12:01:15.831 What do I want to say with it? 2016-08-06 12:01:19.816 And the power that it has. 2016-08-06 12:01:19.802 And the power that it has. 2016-08-06 12:01:26.815 >> Brian I'm asking you to put 2016-08-06 12:01:26.804 >> Brian I'm asking you to put 2016-08-06 12:01:30.814 off -- to take off your arts 2016-08-06 12:01:30.8 off -- to take off your arts 2016-08-06 12:01:30.816 administrator hat. 2016-08-06 12:01:30.801 administrator hat. 2016-08-06 12:01:35.813 How has working with artists 2016-08-06 12:01:35.799 How has working with artists 2016-08-06 12:01:35.815 with disabilities changed your 2016-08-06 12:01:35.816 work? 2016-08-06 12:01:35.801 with disabilities changed your 2016-08-06 12:01:35.802 work? 2016-08-06 12:01:40.859 >> that is a great question. 2016-08-06 12:01:40.847 >> that is a great question. 2016-08-06 12:01:45.858 It has really strengthened my 2016-08-06 12:01:45.843 It has really strengthened my 2016-08-06 12:01:46.868 discipline. 2016-08-06 12:01:46.853 discipline. 2016-08-06 12:01:48.892 I'm not some but he who shows up 2016-08-06 12:01:48.878 I'm not some but he who shows up 2016-08-06 12:01:49.859 at the desk every morning and 2016-08-06 12:01:49.845 at the desk every morning and 2016-08-06 12:01:49.861 writes a certain amount of time 2016-08-06 12:01:49.862 easily. 2016-08-06 12:01:49.847 writes a certain amount of time 2016-08-06 12:01:49.848 easily. 2016-08-06 12:01:54.857 That is something I struggle 2016-08-06 12:01:54.858 with. 2016-08-06 12:01:54.843 That is something I struggle 2016-08-06 12:01:54.844 with. 2016-08-06 12:02:00.856 Seeing everybody who 2016-08-06 12:02:00.857 comes to 2016-08-06 12:02:00.842 Seeing everybody who 2016-08-06 12:02:00.843 comes to 2016-08-06 12:02:01.861 the studio Center, people I get 2016-08-06 12:02:01.862 to know better. 2016-08-06 12:02:01.848 the studio Center, people I get 2016-08-06 12:02:01.849 to know better. 2016-08-06 12:02:04.857 I'm always inspire not just by 2016-08-06 12:02:04.843 I'm always inspire not just by 2016-08-06 12:02:07.855 the work they make but by the 2016-08-06 12:02:07.841 the work they make but by the 2016-08-06 12:02:07.857 fact that they are putting so 2016-08-06 12:02:07.843 fact that they are putting so 2016-08-06 12:02:12.904 much aside 2016-08-06 12:02:12.89 much aside 2016-08-06 12:02:12.906 to put this forward 2016-08-06 12:02:12.891 to put this forward 2016-08-06 12:02:14.956 and put it primarily in their 2016-08-06 12:02:14.942 and put it primarily in their 2016-08-06 12:02:16.95 lives, to be the artist, be the 2016-08-06 12:02:16.935 lives, to be the artist, be the 2016-08-06 12:02:16.951 writer. 2016-08-06 12:02:16.936 writer. 2016-08-06 12:02:17.933 I'm thinking of one writer in 2016-08-06 12:02:17.953 I'm thinking of one writer in 2016-08-06 12:02:22.95 particular who came to the 2016-08-06 12:02:22.936 particular who came to the 2016-08-06 12:02:26.948 studio Center in 2013 and had 2016-08-06 12:02:26.934 studio Center in 2013 and had 2016-08-06 12:02:26.95 been an engineer. 2016-08-06 12:02:26.935 been an engineer. 2016-08-06 12:02:32.996 Was blind and had F 2016-08-06 12:02:32.982 Was blind and had F 2016-08-06 12:02:34.007 Ness. 2016-08-06 12:02:33.993 Ness. 2016-08-06 12:02:37.998 -- and had deafness. 2016-08-06 12:02:37.983 -- and had deafness. 2016-08-06 12:02:41.07 He had been toying with poetry 2016-08-06 12:02:41.071 for a while. 2016-08-06 12:02:41.056 He had been toying with poetry 2016-08-06 12:02:41.057 for a while. 2016-08-06 12:02:44.066 It has transformed his life. 2016-08-06 12:02:44.052 It has transformed his life. 2016-08-06 12:02:50.068 He 2016-08-06 12:02:50.07 went to an MFA program and 2016-08-06 12:02:50.055 He 2016-08-06 12:02:50.055 went to an MFA program and 2016-08-06 12:02:51.074 finished that this past May. 2016-08-06 12:02:51.06 finished that this past May. 2016-08-06 12:02:54.066 We have been in touch since he 2016-08-06 12:02:54.052 We have been in touch since he 2016-08-06 12:02:55.071 was there in 2013. 2016-08-06 12:02:55.056 was there in 2013. 2016-08-06 12:02:59.068 His dedication and his choice to 2016-08-06 12:02:59.054 His dedication and his choice to 2016-08-06 12:03:02.065 be a writer inspired me to do 2016-08-06 12:03:02.051 be a writer inspired me to do 2016-08-06 12:03:02.067 the writing. 2016-08-06 12:03:02.053 the writing. 2016-08-06 12:03:06.086 And to be reading poetry. 2016-08-06 12:03:06.072 And to be reading poetry. 2016-08-06 12:03:09.068 That is one personal anecdote of 2016-08-06 12:03:09.069 many. 2016-08-06 12:03:09.054 That is one personal anecdote of 2016-08-06 12:03:09.055 many. 2016-08-06 12:03:18.107 >> I am not an artist, but I 2016-08-06 12:03:18.093 >> I am not an artist, but I 2016-08-06 12:03:19.108 work with a lot of artists. 2016-08-06 12:03:19.094 work with a lot of artists. 2016-08-06 12:03:20.107 I noticed that a lot of times 2016-08-06 12:03:20.093 I noticed that a lot of times 2016-08-06 12:03:23.11 the deepest connection is the 2016-08-06 12:03:23.096 the deepest connection is the 2016-08-06 12:03:23.112 artist to artist connection. 2016-08-06 12:03:23.098 artist to artist connection. 2016-08-06 12:03:33.11 I swear when -- I swear it is 2016-08-06 12:03:33.096 I swear when -- I swear it is 2016-08-06 12:03:35.109 like when the old amort and 2016-08-06 12:03:35.095 like when the old amort and 2016-08-06 12:03:35.111 Harry Potter's wands connect. 2016-08-06 12:03:35.097 Harry Potter's wands connect. 2016-08-06 12:03:41.152 Everyone goes to 2016-08-06 12:03:41.138 Everyone goes to 2016-08-06 12:03:42.214 hear in work. 2016-08-06 12:03:42.235 hear in work. 2016-08-06 12:03:47.2 I'm wondering whether or not you 2016-08-06 12:03:47.185 I'm wondering whether or not you 2016-08-06 12:03:47.201 have experienced with that. 2016-08-06 12:03:47.187 have experienced with that. 2016-08-06 12:03:55.205 >> it did happen here. 2016-08-06 12:03:55.195 >> it did happen here. 2016-08-06 12:04:04.251 One of the things I remember and 2016-08-06 12:04:04.237 One of the things I remember and 2016-08-06 12:04:10.251 one of the best things 2016-08-06 12:04:10.252 , usually 2016-08-06 12:04:10.237 one of the best things 2016-08-06 12:04:10.238 , usually 2016-08-06 12:04:11.278 when I go somewhere people ask 2016-08-06 12:04:11.264 when I go somewhere people ask 2016-08-06 12:04:12.277 you what happened to you or how 2016-08-06 12:04:12.263 you what happened to you or how 2016-08-06 12:04:12.279 were you injured. 2016-08-06 12:04:12.265 were you injured. 2016-08-06 12:04:19.32 I was there about three or four 2016-08-06 12:04:19.306 I was there about three or four 2016-08-06 12:04:19.322 days and nobody asked me that. 2016-08-06 12:04:19.308 days and nobody asked me that. 2016-08-06 12:04:25.32 All the conversations we had 2016-08-06 12:04:25.306 All the conversations we had 2016-08-06 12:04:25.322 were around art and what are you 2016-08-06 12:04:25.307 were around art and what are you 2016-08-06 12:04:29.32 working on today and what kind 2016-08-06 12:04:29.321 of materials are you using? 2016-08-06 12:04:29.306 working on today and what kind 2016-08-06 12:04:29.307 of materials are you using? 2016-08-06 12:04:35.318 It was all art and so 2016-08-06 12:04:35.304 It was all art and so 2016-08-06 12:04:37.32 refreshing 2016-08-06 12:04:37.306 refreshing 2016-08-06 12:04:37.322 to not have that question come 2016-08-06 12:04:37.307 to not have that question come 2016-08-06 12:04:37.323 up. 2016-08-06 12:04:37.308 up. 2016-08-06 12:04:44.321 Even though when it did come up 2016-08-06 12:04:44.307 Even though when it did come up 2016-08-06 12:04:45.32 I brought it up myself because 2016-08-06 12:04:45.306 I brought it up myself because 2016-08-06 12:04:46.321 it was related to my work. 2016-08-06 12:04:46.307 it was related to my work. 2016-08-06 12:04:52.322 I was 2016-08-06 12:04:52.308 I was 2016-08-06 12:04:52.324 able to meet other artists 2016-08-06 12:04:52.325 and talk about what we were 2016-08-06 12:04:52.31 able to meet other artists 2016-08-06 12:04:52.311 and talk about what we were 2016-08-06 12:04:52.327 doing. 2016-08-06 12:04:52.312 doing. 2016-08-06 12:04:57.325 This is a funny way of 2016-08-06 12:04:57.311 This is a funny way of 2016-08-06 12:04:57.327 happening, but the person in the 2016-08-06 12:04:57.313 happening, but the person in the 2016-08-06 12:05:05.324 studio next to mine 2016-08-06 12:05:05.325 turned out 2016-08-06 12:05:05.31 studio next to mine 2016-08-06 12:05:05.311 turned out 2016-08-06 12:05:05.327 to the a personal-care attendant 2016-08-06 12:05:05.312 to the a personal-care attendant 2016-08-06 12:05:09.323 for this woman and he was there 2016-08-06 12:05:09.309 for this woman and he was there 2016-08-06 12:05:09.325 for a month. 2016-08-06 12:05:09.311 for a month. 2016-08-06 12:05:14.333 We started talking 2016-08-06 12:05:14.334 it up 2016-08-06 12:05:14.319 We started talking 2016-08-06 12:05:14.32 it up 2016-08-06 12:05:14.336 personal-care attendants and 2016-08-06 12:05:14.337 stuff like that. 2016-08-06 12:05:14.322 personal-care attendants and 2016-08-06 12:05:14.323 stuff like that. 2016-08-06 12:05:22.366 I just needed to move around and 2016-08-06 12:05:22.352 I just needed to move around and 2016-08-06 12:05:22.368 my body needed to stretch. 2016-08-06 12:05:22.354 my body needed to stretch. 2016-08-06 12:05:27.365 My care attendant is actually a 2016-08-06 12:05:27.351 My care attendant is actually a 2016-08-06 12:05:29.364 yoga instructor as well, so we 2016-08-06 12:05:29.35 yoga instructor as well, so we 2016-08-06 12:05:30.364 decided to do yoga in the 2016-08-06 12:05:30.365 studio. 2016-08-06 12:05:30.35 decided to do yoga in the 2016-08-06 12:05:30.351 studio. 2016-08-06 12:05:36.361 We knocked on the wall 2016-08-06 12:05:36.362 and said 2016-08-06 12:05:36.347 We knocked on the wall 2016-08-06 12:05:36.348 and said 2016-08-06 12:05:38.364 hey can you come over and help 2016-08-06 12:05:38.365 me transfer to the floor? 2016-08-06 12:05:38.35 hey can you come over and help 2016-08-06 12:05:38.351 me transfer to the floor? 2016-08-06 12:05:42.368 And we just took a series of 2016-08-06 12:05:42.354 And we just took a series of 2016-08-06 12:05:42.37 photographs, totally not 2016-08-06 12:05:42.371 planned. 2016-08-06 12:05:42.356 photographs, totally not 2016-08-06 12:05:42.357 planned. 2016-08-06 12:05:47.366 We just did a series of 2016-08-06 12:05:47.351 We just did a series of 2016-08-06 12:05:50.409 photographs, started off doing 2016-08-06 12:05:50.41 yoga. 2016-08-06 12:05:50.395 photographs, started off doing 2016-08-06 12:05:50.396 yoga. 2016-08-06 12:05:53.407 They looked really weird. 2016-08-06 12:05:53.393 They looked really weird. 2016-08-06 12:05:58.408 It didn't even look like a body 2016-08-06 12:05:58.409 anymore. 2016-08-06 12:05:58.394 It didn't even look like a body 2016-08-06 12:05:58.395 anymore. 2016-08-06 12:06:03.407 It started making me think about 2016-08-06 12:06:03.393 It started making me think about 2016-08-06 12:06:06.409 body image and nothing came of 2016-08-06 12:06:06.411 the photos yet. 2016-08-06 12:06:06.396 body image and nothing came of 2016-08-06 12:06:06.397 the photos yet. 2016-08-06 12:06:12.406 It has 2016-08-06 12:06:12.392 It has 2016-08-06 12:06:13.411 gotten me to think about 2016-08-06 12:06:13.397 gotten me to think about 2016-08-06 12:06:13.413 body image and photography and 2016-08-06 12:06:13.414 disability. 2016-08-06 12:06:13.399 body image and photography and 2016-08-06 12:06:13.4 disability. 2016-08-06 12:06:17.409 It was cool. 2016-08-06 12:06:17.395 It was cool. 2016-08-06 12:06:23.456 >> have you seen 2016-08-06 12:06:23.442 >> have you seen 2016-08-06 12:06:26.452 those moments? 2016-08-06 12:06:26.438 those moments? 2016-08-06 12:06:28.451 >> it happens. 2016-08-06 12:06:28.437 >> it happens. 2016-08-06 12:06:33.454 You get this many people from 2016-08-06 12:06:33.44 You get this many people from 2016-08-06 12:06:33.456 all walks of life and all over 2016-08-06 12:06:33.442 all walks of life and all over 2016-08-06 12:06:39.501 the world 2016-08-06 12:06:39.487 the world 2016-08-06 12:06:40.5 together, living in 2016-08-06 12:06:40.486 together, living in 2016-08-06 12:06:41.502 the same houses and next door to 2016-08-06 12:06:41.489 the same houses and next door to 2016-08-06 12:06:45.504 each other in the studios along 2016-08-06 12:06:45.49 each other in the studios along 2016-08-06 12:06:45.506 this hive activity week after 2016-08-06 12:06:45.507 week. 2016-08-06 12:06:45.492 this hive activity week after 2016-08-06 12:06:45.493 week. 2016-08-06 12:06:49.503 Those connections do happen. 2016-08-06 12:06:49.489 Those connections do happen. 2016-08-06 12:06:54.55 We met there in the studio 2016-08-06 12:06:54.535 We met there in the studio 2016-08-06 12:06:55.538 Center. 2016-08-06 12:06:55.524 Center. 2016-08-06 12:07:05.535 I think that at -- I think that 2016-08-06 12:07:05.521 I think that at -- I think that 2016-08-06 12:07:05.537 underscores the inclusivity in 2016-08-06 12:07:05.523 underscores the inclusivity in 2016-08-06 12:07:07.537 the mission, which is just the 2016-08-06 12:07:07.523 the mission, which is just the 2016-08-06 12:07:12.534 founding ideal, the creativity 2016-08-06 12:07:12.52 founding ideal, the creativity 2016-08-06 12:07:15.56 of this universal human endeavor 2016-08-06 12:07:15.561 . 2016-08-06 12:07:15.546 of this universal human endeavor 2016-08-06 12:07:15.547 . 2016-08-06 12:07:16.536 We have heard it before and I 2016-08-06 12:07:16.522 We have heard it before and I 2016-08-06 12:07:18.535 imagine it will be repeated 2016-08-06 12:07:18.536 again. 2016-08-06 12:07:18.521 imagine it will be repeated 2016-08-06 12:07:18.522 again. 2016-08-06 12:07:23.659 It unifies us in 2016-08-06 12:07:23.66 that way, 2016-08-06 12:07:23.645 It unifies us in 2016-08-06 12:07:23.646 that way, 2016-08-06 12:07:23.662 despite where we are coming 2016-08-06 12:07:23.663 from. 2016-08-06 12:07:23.648 despite where we are coming 2016-08-06 12:07:23.649 from. 2016-08-06 12:07:29.65 That was always inspiring and 2016-08-06 12:07:29.651 real. 2016-08-06 12:07:29.668 That was always inspiring and 2016-08-06 12:07:29.67 real. 2016-08-06 12:07:32.67 And intense. 2016-08-06 12:07:32.656 And intense. 2016-08-06 12:07:37.662 People leave on a Friday and 55 2016-08-06 12:07:37.648 People leave on a Friday and 55 2016-08-06 12:07:38.659 more people show up on a Sunday. 2016-08-06 12:07:38.645 more people show up on a Sunday. 2016-08-06 12:07:40.66 And then we start again. 2016-08-06 12:07:40.65 And then we start again. 2016-08-06 12:07:44.661 >> that just makes my head hurt. 2016-08-06 12:07:44.647 >> that just makes my head hurt. 2016-08-06 12:07:48.664 One of the things I'm curious 2016-08-06 12:07:48.65 One of the things I'm curious 2016-08-06 12:07:51.663 about is what happens 2016-08-06 12:07:51.664 afterwards? 2016-08-06 12:07:51.649 about is what happens 2016-08-06 12:07:51.65 afterwards? 2016-08-06 12:07:56.695 What is our long-term impact? 2016-08-06 12:07:56.711 What is our long-term impact? 2016-08-06 12:08:00.704 I know about the Vermont studio 2016-08-06 12:08:00.69 I know about the Vermont studio 2016-08-06 12:08:02.72 Center because we do these 2016-08-06 12:08:02.706 Center because we do these 2016-08-06 12:08:02.722 individual grants for artists 2016-08-06 12:08:02.723 every single round. 2016-08-06 12:08:02.708 individual grants for artists 2016-08-06 12:08:02.709 every single round. 2016-08-06 12:08:09.704 We get at least two people 2016-08-06 12:08:09.69 We get at least two people 2016-08-06 12:08:10.714 applying for funding at the 2016-08-06 12:08:10.7 applying for funding at the 2016-08-06 12:08:11.705 studio Center because it is such 2016-08-06 12:08:11.69 studio Center because it is such 2016-08-06 12:08:11.706 a sought-after residency. 2016-08-06 12:08:11.691 a sought-after residency. 2016-08-06 12:08:17.705 My personal thinking 2016-08-06 12:08:17.692 My personal thinking 2016-08-06 12:08:18.706 is it takes 2016-08-06 12:08:18.692 is it takes 2016-08-06 12:08:18.708 a minimum of five years to 2016-08-06 12:08:18.709 process residency. 2016-08-06 12:08:18.694 a minimum of five years to 2016-08-06 12:08:18.695 process residency. 2016-08-06 12:08:26.756 I want to ask you how long has 2016-08-06 12:08:26.742 I want to ask you how long has 2016-08-06 12:08:30.757 it been since you've been there 2016-08-06 12:08:30.743 it been since you've been there 2016-08-06 12:08:31.755 and how do you think it will 2016-08-06 12:08:31.741 and how do you think it will 2016-08-06 12:08:31.757 impact you long-term? 2016-08-06 12:08:31.743 impact you long-term? 2016-08-06 12:08:36.777 >> it has been two 2016-08-06 12:08:36.778 years. 2016-08-06 12:08:36.764 >> it has been two 2016-08-06 12:08:36.764 years. 2016-08-06 12:08:41.802 I went 2016-08-06 12:08:41.788 I went 2016-08-06 12:08:42.808 in October 2014. 2016-08-06 12:08:42.795 in October 2014. 2016-08-06 12:08:50.804 When I got there I felt like a 2016-08-06 12:08:50.805 big fraud. 2016-08-06 12:08:50.792 When I got there I felt like a 2016-08-06 12:08:50.793 big fraud. 2016-08-06 12:08:55.88 Like 2016-08-06 12:08:55.866 Like 2016-08-06 12:08:56.878 I wasn't an artist and 2016-08-06 12:08:56.864 I wasn't an artist and 2016-08-06 12:08:56.88 everyone around me was doing all 2016-08-06 12:08:56.87 everyone around me was doing all 2016-08-06 12:08:58.87 these great things. 2016-08-06 12:08:58.856 these great things. 2016-08-06 12:09:07.875 It has impacted me in a way I 2016-08-06 12:09:07.861 It has impacted me in a way I 2016-08-06 12:09:10.874 don't feel like a -- anymore. 2016-08-06 12:09:10.861 don't feel like a -- anymore. 2016-08-06 12:09:16.874 I'm more 2016-08-06 12:09:16.86 I'm more 2016-08-06 12:09:17.873 comfortable sharing my 2016-08-06 12:09:17.859 comfortable sharing my 2016-08-06 12:09:22.875 artwork. 2016-08-06 12:09:22.861 artwork. 2016-08-06 12:09:22.877 I was able to be part of the 2016-08-06 12:09:22.863 I was able to be part of the 2016-08-06 12:09:27.956 show and exhibit my work 2016-08-06 12:09:27.957 in 2016-08-06 12:09:27.942 show and exhibit my work 2016-08-06 12:09:27.943 in 2016-08-06 12:09:28.958 November of last year, which was 2016-08-06 12:09:28.944 November of last year, which was 2016-08-06 12:09:28.96 really cool. 2016-08-06 12:09:28.946 really cool. 2016-08-06 12:09:33.959 And I am working on another one 2016-08-06 12:09:33.96 coming up this year. 2016-08-06 12:09:33.945 And I am working on another one 2016-08-06 12:09:33.946 coming up this year. 2016-08-06 12:09:40.958 Trying to just get my artwork 2016-08-06 12:09:40.959 out there. 2016-08-06 12:09:40.945 Trying to just get my artwork 2016-08-06 12:09:40.946 out there. 2016-08-06 12:09:46.961 It has made me more comfortable 2016-08-06 12:09:46.946 It has 2016-08-06 12:09:46.948 made me more comfortable 2016-08-06 12:09:48.957 with identifying myself as an 2016-08-06 12:09:48.943 with identifying myself as an 2016-08-06 12:09:48.959 artist and insuring my work. 2016-08-06 12:09:48.945 artist and insuring my work. 2016-08-06 12:09:53.96 >> you have to put this in 2016-08-06 12:09:53.946 >> you have to put this in 2016-08-06 12:09:56.961 context, because everybody comes 2016-08-06 12:09:56.962 from a residence. 2016-08-06 12:09:56.947 context, because everybody comes 2016-08-06 12:09:56.949 from a residence. 2016-08-06 12:10:02.007 >> we do 2016-08-06 12:10:01.993 >> we do 2016-08-06 12:10:03.006 have interviews, 2016-08-06 12:10:02.992 have interviews, 2016-08-06 12:10:03.008 particularly with funded 2016-08-06 12:10:02.994 particularly with funded 2016-08-06 12:10:05.009 programs. 2016-08-06 12:10:04.996 programs. 2016-08-06 12:10:11.046 We do follow-up. 2016-08-06 12:10:11.048 I reached out to Rebecca and 2016-08-06 12:10:11.064 We do follow-up. 2016-08-06 12:10:11.067 I reached out to Rebecca and 2016-08-06 12:10:15.061 others this year to see where 2016-08-06 12:10:15.062 they were and what they have 2016-08-06 12:10:15.047 others this year to see where 2016-08-06 12:10:15.049 they were and what they have 2016-08-06 12:10:19.127 been up to so we can report in 2016-08-06 12:10:19.129 terms of long-term impact. 2016-08-06 12:10:19.117 been up to so we can report in 2016-08-06 12:10:19.12 terms of long-term impact. 2016-08-06 12:10:25.126 Lots of gallery shows, 2016-08-06 12:10:25.127 lots of 2016-08-06 12:10:25.113 Lots of gallery shows, 2016-08-06 12:10:25.114 lots of 2016-08-06 12:10:26.13 readings, and lots of those 2016-08-06 12:10:26.132 connections that happened by 2016-08-06 12:10:26.117 readings, and lots of those 2016-08-06 12:10:26.118 connections that happened by 2016-08-06 12:10:30.213 meeting other artists, it 2016-08-06 12:10:30.199 meeting other artists, it 2016-08-06 12:10:31.256 doesn't manifest until months or 2016-08-06 12:10:31.242 doesn't manifest until months or 2016-08-06 12:10:32.257 years later that this person I 2016-08-06 12:10:32.243 years later that this person I 2016-08-06 12:10:37.258 met at the studio Center, they 2016-08-06 12:10:37.244 met at the studio Center, they 2016-08-06 12:10:38.258 have a gallery in Houston and I 2016-08-06 12:10:38.243 have a gallery in Houston and I 2016-08-06 12:10:38.244 will have a showdown there. 2016-08-06 12:10:38.26 will have a showdown there. 2016-08-06 12:10:46.308 We are invested in the long-term 2016-08-06 12:10:46.294 We are invested in the long-term 2016-08-06 12:10:46.31 betterment of the feel of artist 2016-08-06 12:10:46.311 residencies. 2016-08-06 12:10:46.296 betterment of the feel of artist 2016-08-06 12:10:46.297 residencies. 2016-08-06 12:10:51.33 We have been working with 2016-08-06 12:10:51.331 the 2016-08-06 12:10:51.317 We have been working with 2016-08-06 12:10:51.318 the 2016-08-06 12:10:52.31 alliance of artist communities, 2016-08-06 12:10:52.311 which is a wonderful umbrella 2016-08-06 12:10:52.296 alliance of artist communities, 2016-08-06 12:10:52.297 which is a wonderful umbrella 2016-08-06 12:10:57.306 organization that several 2016-08-06 12:10:57.308 hundred residencies in the U.S. 2016-08-06 12:10:57.293 organization that several 2016-08-06 12:10:57.295 hundred residencies in the U.S. 2016-08-06 12:11:02.336 belonged to to kind of 2016-08-06 12:11:02.322 belonged to to kind of 2016-08-06 12:11:03.338 set and 2016-08-06 12:11:03.325 set and 2016-08-06 12:11:07.337 give us the feedback that have 2016-08-06 12:11:07.323 give us the feedback that have 2016-08-06 12:11:07.339 the first-hand experience, just 2016-08-06 12:11:07.325 the first-hand experience, just 2016-08-06 12:11:10.339 what are the first -- what are 2016-08-06 12:11:10.34 the best practices for the 2016-08-06 12:11:10.325 what are the first -- what are 2016-08-06 12:11:10.341 field? 2016-08-06 12:11:10.326 the best practices for the 2016-08-06 12:11:10.328 field? 2016-08-06 12:11:15.339 It hasn't yet had the capacity 2016-08-06 12:11:15.325 It hasn't yet had the capacity 2016-08-06 12:11:17.338 to understand what is out there 2016-08-06 12:11:17.324 to understand what is out there 2016-08-06 12:11:21.346 in terms of which residencies 2016-08-06 12:11:21.347 are accessible. 2016-08-06 12:11:21.332 in terms of which residencies 2016-08-06 12:11:21.334 are accessible. 2016-08-06 12:11:27.337 That is 2016-08-06 12:11:27.339 taking shape rather 2016-08-06 12:11:27.324 That is 2016-08-06 12:11:27.325 taking shape rather 2016-08-06 12:11:28.34 quickly thanks to this 2016-08-06 12:11:28.326 quickly thanks to this 2016-08-06 12:11:28.342 consortium we started last year. 2016-08-06 12:11:28.328 consortium we started last year. 2016-08-06 12:11:32.379 >> I'm going to point something 2016-08-06 12:11:32.38 out here. 2016-08-06 12:11:32.365 >> I'm going to point something 2016-08-06 12:11:32.366 out here. 2016-08-06 12:11:37.382 Any artist generally can go 2016-08-06 12:11:37.368 Any artist generally can go 2016-08-06 12:11:40.39 online to the alliance and look 2016-08-06 12:11:40.391 up residencies. 2016-08-06 12:11:40.376 online to the alliance and look 2016-08-06 12:11:40.377 up residencies. 2016-08-06 12:11:46.38 But there are three arts 2016-08-06 12:11:46.366 But there are three arts 2016-08-06 12:11:47.39 residencies. 2016-08-06 12:11:47.376 residencies. 2016-08-06 12:11:53.379 There is 2016-08-06 12:11:53.365 There is 2016-08-06 12:11:56.38 like 10 where they 2016-08-06 12:11:56.366 like 10 where they 2016-08-06 12:11:56.382 specifically welcome people with 2016-08-06 12:11:56.383 disabilities. 2016-08-06 12:11:56.368 specifically welcome people with 2016-08-06 12:11:56.369 disabilities. 2016-08-06 12:12:02.421 If you do take 2016-08-06 12:12:02.408 If you do take 2016-08-06 12:12:03.422 the thousands of 2016-08-06 12:12:03.408 the thousands of 2016-08-06 12:12:03.424 residencies available and think 2016-08-06 12:12:03.41 residencies available and think 2016-08-06 12:12:05.421 of the ones that are advertising 2016-08-06 12:12:05.408 of the ones that are advertising 2016-08-06 12:12:06.424 themselves as welcoming artists 2016-08-06 12:12:06.41 themselves as welcoming artists 2016-08-06 12:12:06.426 with disabilities, your 2016-08-06 12:12:06.412 with disabilities, your 2016-08-06 12:12:10.424 opportunities are far fewer than 2016-08-06 12:12:10.426 otherwise. 2016-08-06 12:12:10.411 opportunities are far fewer than 2016-08-06 12:12:10.413 otherwise. 2016-08-06 12:12:16.425 I'm just pointing that out. 2016-08-06 12:12:16.411 I'm just pointing that out. 2016-08-06 12:12:26.436 I'm pointing 2016-08-06 12:12:26.422 I'm pointing 2016-08-06 12:12:27.425 down -- just keep 2016-08-06 12:12:27.411 down -- just keep 2016-08-06 12:12:27.427 that in your heads. 2016-08-06 12:12:27.413 that in your heads. 2016-08-06 12:12:38.511 So what do you want the alliance 2016-08-06 12:12:38.497 So what do you want the alliance 2016-08-06 12:12:38.513 for artist communities to do? 2016-08-06 12:12:38.502 for artist communities to do? 2016-08-06 12:12:40.51 To increase the opportunities? 2016-08-06 12:12:40.496 To increase the opportunities? 2016-08-06 12:12:47.56 I'm putting you on the spot 2016-08-06 12:12:47.546 I'm putting you on the spot 2016-08-06 12:12:47.562 because that is a teeth 2016-08-06 12:12:47.563 question. 2016-08-06 12:12:47.548 because that is a teeth 2016-08-06 12:12:47.549 question. 2016-08-06 12:12:51.559 -- a deep question. 2016-08-06 12:12:51.545 -- a deep question. 2016-08-06 12:12:59.558 >> I think I would like 2016-08-06 12:12:59.545 >> I think I would like 2016-08-06 12:13:00.609 questions to be asked, what do 2016-08-06 12:13:00.595 questions to be asked, what do 2016-08-06 12:13:03.606 you need and how can we include 2016-08-06 12:13:03.592 you need and how can we include 2016-08-06 12:13:07.674 you in our programs and our 2016-08-06 12:13:07.66 you in our programs and our 2016-08-06 12:13:09.675 residencies and anything, 2016-08-06 12:13:09.676 really? 2016-08-06 12:13:09.661 residencies and anything, 2016-08-06 12:13:09.662 really? 2016-08-06 12:13:17.684 But being asked to be included 2016-08-06 12:13:17.67 But being asked to be included 2016-08-06 12:13:18.676 and being able to participate in 2016-08-06 12:13:18.662 and being able to participate in 2016-08-06 12:13:20.675 the process of what would make 2016-08-06 12:13:20.662 the process of what would make 2016-08-06 12:13:25.675 it inclusive, I think it is 2016-08-06 12:13:25.661 it inclusive, I think it is 2016-08-06 12:13:30.717 really important to be included 2016-08-06 12:13:30.703 really important to be included 2016-08-06 12:13:35.761 and have that voice 2016-08-06 12:13:35.762 and these 2016-08-06 12:13:35.747 and have that voice 2016-08-06 12:13:35.748 and these 2016-08-06 12:13:36.76 decisions not to be taken 2016-08-06 12:13:36.761 without us. 2016-08-06 12:13:36.746 decisions not to be taken 2016-08-06 12:13:36.747 without us. 2016-08-06 12:13:41.761 >> everything we have learned 2016-08-06 12:13:41.747 >> everything we have learned 2016-08-06 12:13:42.76 about accessibility in terms of 2016-08-06 12:13:42.747 about accessibility in terms of 2016-08-06 12:13:45.761 the campus itself has come from 2016-08-06 12:13:45.762 artists. 2016-08-06 12:13:45.747 the campus itself has come from 2016-08-06 12:13:45.748 artists. 2016-08-06 12:13:52.764 I would say put out an open 2016-08-06 12:13:52.75 I would say put out an open 2016-08-06 12:13:52.766 call. 2016-08-06 12:13:52.752 call. 2016-08-06 12:13:59.761 Also finding ways to pool 2016-08-06 12:13:59.748 Also finding ways to pool 2016-08-06 12:14:00.76 resources. 2016-08-06 12:14:00.747 resources. 2016-08-06 12:14:06.764 The success comes best just when 2016-08-06 12:14:06.75 The success comes best just when 2016-08-06 12:14:06.766 there is not the excess for 2016-08-06 12:14:06.752 there is not the excess for 2016-08-06 12:14:09.763 campus in the facility but also 2016-08-06 12:14:09.75 campus in the facility but also 2016-08-06 12:14:12.77 the programming, the fact there 2016-08-06 12:14:12.756 the programming, the fact there 2016-08-06 12:14:14.763 is a fellowship so the whole 2016-08-06 12:14:14.749 is a fellowship so the whole 2016-08-06 12:14:15.768 experience is paid for, plus 2016-08-06 12:14:15.769 travel, plus a stipend. 2016-08-06 12:14:15.754 experience is paid for, plus 2016-08-06 12:14:15.756 travel, plus a stipend. 2016-08-06 12:14:22.764 And yes the campus and studio 2016-08-06 12:14:22.75 And yes the campus and studio 2016-08-06 12:14:22.766 will have a house that will work 2016-08-06 12:14:22.767 for you. 2016-08-06 12:14:22.752 will have a house that will work 2016-08-06 12:14:22.753 for you. 2016-08-06 12:14:31.761 Maybe not accessible to so many 2016-08-06 12:14:31.747 Maybe not accessible to so many 2016-08-06 12:14:34.762 of us. 2016-08-06 12:14:34.75 of us. 2016-08-06 12:14:40.863 There is a way I'm excited about 2016-08-06 12:14:40.849 There is a way I'm excited about 2016-08-06 12:14:42.862 this consortium that will 2016-08-06 12:14:42.848 this consortium that will 2016-08-06 12:14:42.864 continue to grow. 2016-08-06 12:14:42.85 continue to grow. 2016-08-06 12:14:48.886 The alliance can see a way 2016-08-06 12:14:48.873 The alliance can see a way 2016-08-06 12:14:49.888 to 2016-08-06 12:14:49.874 to 2016-08-06 12:14:51.89 leverage funding in ways that 2016-08-06 12:14:51.876 leverage funding in ways that 2016-08-06 12:14:51.892 make the residency cost part go 2016-08-06 12:14:51.893 away for artists. 2016-08-06 12:14:51.878 make the residency cost part go 2016-08-06 12:14:51.88 away for artists. 2016-08-06 12:14:55.889 >> that helps a lot. 2016-08-06 12:14:55.875 >> that helps a lot. 2016-08-06 12:15:03.89 Forever we say the ADA is the 2016-08-06 12:15:03.891 floor. 2016-08-06 12:15:03.876 Forever we say the ADA is the 2016-08-06 12:15:03.878 floor. 2016-08-06 12:15:06.888 That is where you must be. 2016-08-06 12:15:06.874 That is where you must be. 2016-08-06 12:15:13.017 That covers effective 2016-08-06 12:15:13.003 That covers effective 2016-08-06 12:15:13.019 communication and everything 2016-08-06 12:15:13.02 like that. 2016-08-06 12:15:13.005 communication and everything 2016-08-06 12:15:13.006 like that. 2016-08-06 12:15:15.013 But what you want is to be 2016-08-06 12:15:15.014 welcoming. 2016-08-06 12:15:15 But what you want is to be 2016-08-06 12:15:15.001 welcoming. 2016-08-06 12:15:21.015 In a 2016-08-06 12:15:21.017 way that any artist can 2016-08-06 12:15:21.002 In a 2016-08-06 12:15:21.003 way that any artist can 2016-08-06 12:15:22.014 come in and it doesn't matter 2016-08-06 12:15:22 come in and it doesn't matter 2016-08-06 12:15:22.016 who or what they are. 2016-08-06 12:15:22.002 who or what they are. 2016-08-06 12:15:31.016 They interact with their 2016-08-06 12:15:31.002 They interact with their 2016-08-06 12:15:31.018 surroundings and people there as 2016-08-06 12:15:31.019 everyone else would. 2016-08-06 12:15:31.004 surroundings and people there as 2016-08-06 12:15:31.006 everyone else would. 2016-08-06 12:15:42.061 We were talking 2016-08-06 12:15:42.063 earlier that you 2016-08-06 12:15:42.048 We were talking 2016-08-06 12:15:42.064 gathered information for other 2016-08-06 12:15:42.049 earlier that you 2016-08-06 12:15:42.05 gathered information for other 2016-08-06 12:15:45.061 artists to make their transition 2016-08-06 12:15:45.062 easier. 2016-08-06 12:15:45.047 artists to make their transition 2016-08-06 12:15:45.048 easier. 2016-08-06 12:15:49.063 Then you went on to share it. 2016-08-06 12:15:49.05 Then you went on to share it. 2016-08-06 12:15:55.112 There is a really 2016-08-06 12:15:55.098 There is a really 2016-08-06 12:15:56.112 tight network 2016-08-06 12:15:56.098 tight network 2016-08-06 12:15:57.114 of artists with disabilities and 2016-08-06 12:15:57.1 of artists with disabilities and 2016-08-06 12:15:57.116 information flies across to 2016-08-06 12:15:57.102 information flies across to 2016-08-06 12:16:02.122 those networks so fast 2016-08-06 12:16:02.123 that they 2016-08-06 12:16:02.108 those networks so fast 2016-08-06 12:16:02.108 that they 2016-08-06 12:16:03.112 are your best asset. 2016-08-06 12:16:03.099 are your best asset. 2016-08-06 12:16:10.113 Could you tell us a little bit 2016-08-06 12:16:10.1 Could you tell us a little bit 2016-08-06 12:16:11.119 about what you did and why you 2016-08-06 12:16:11.105 about what you did and why you 2016-08-06 12:16:11.121 are there. 2016-08-06 12:16:11.107 are there. 2016-08-06 12:16:19.115 >> while I was there I took a 2016-08-06 12:16:19.117 lot of pictures. 2016-08-06 12:16:19.102 >> while I was there I took a 2016-08-06 12:16:19.103 lot of pictures. 2016-08-06 12:16:27.098 I took a lot of videos of stuff. 2016-08-06 12:16:27.115 I took a lot of videos of stuff. 2016-08-06 12:16:32.158 I didn't initially know what I 2016-08-06 12:16:32.16 would use it for. 2016-08-06 12:16:32.147 I didn't initially know what I 2016-08-06 12:16:32.148 would use it for. 2016-08-06 12:16:41.143 I had my PA follow me around 2016-08-06 12:16:41.13 I had my PA follow me around 2016-08-06 12:16:42.142 with my phone and record me 2016-08-06 12:16:42.131 with my phone and record me 2016-08-06 12:16:46.189 getting into the studio, the 2016-08-06 12:16:46.176 getting into the studio, the 2016-08-06 12:16:50.189 handles on each of the doors, 2016-08-06 12:16:50.175 handles on each of the doors, 2016-08-06 12:16:51.186 getting into my housing, getting 2016-08-06 12:16:51.187 into the dining area. 2016-08-06 12:16:51.172 getting into my housing, getting 2016-08-06 12:16:51.174 into the dining area. 2016-08-06 12:17:01.186 It would be behind me from my 2016-08-06 12:17:01.172 It would be behind me from my 2016-08-06 12:17:01.188 perspective. 2016-08-06 12:17:01.174 perspective. 2016-08-06 12:17:07.177 The following 2016-08-06 12:17:08.204 The following year a friend of 2016-08-06 12:17:08.205 mine, I told her she should 2016-08-06 12:17:08.19 year a friend of 2016-08-06 12:17:08.206 apply. 2016-08-06 12:17:08.193 mine, I told her she should 2016-08-06 12:17:08.194 apply. 2016-08-06 12:17:13.187 She was nervous about the 2016-08-06 12:17:13.173 She was nervous about the 2016-08-06 12:17:13.189 accessibility so I sent her all 2016-08-06 12:17:13.19 the videos. 2016-08-06 12:17:13.175 accessibility so I sent her all 2016-08-06 12:17:13.176 the videos. 2016-08-06 12:17:18.315 It was really helpful for her. 2016-08-06 12:17:18.302 It was really helpful for her. 2016-08-06 12:17:22.365 She was relieved to see all 2016-08-06 12:17:22.351 She was relieved to see all 2016-08-06 12:17:22.367 those and see what it would be 2016-08-06 12:17:22.368 like. 2016-08-06 12:17:22.353 those and see what it would be 2016-08-06 12:17:22.354 like. 2016-08-06 12:17:26.364 She did have a lot of questions 2016-08-06 12:17:26.35 She did have a lot of questions 2016-08-06 12:17:29.373 and she did cap -- and she kept 2016-08-06 12:17:29.375 asking me questions. 2016-08-06 12:17:29.36 and she did cap -- and she kept 2016-08-06 12:17:29.361 asking me questions. 2016-08-06 12:17:33.364 Finally I just showed her all 2016-08-06 12:17:33.351 Finally I just showed her all 2016-08-06 12:17:34.369 the videos. 2016-08-06 12:17:34.355 the videos. 2016-08-06 12:17:41.402 >> and may be 2016-08-06 12:17:41.389 >> and may be 2016-08-06 12:17:42.393 sure -- and make 2016-08-06 12:17:42.38 sure -- and make 2016-08-06 12:17:46.438 sure that studio Center gets it 2016-08-06 12:17:46.424 sure that studio Center gets it 2016-08-06 12:17:46.426 to you. 2016-08-06 12:17:46.442 to you. 2016-08-06 12:17:46.427 As people have questions to 2016-08-06 12:17:46.445 As people have questions to 2016-08-06 12:17:49.438 share, we have done a practice 2016-08-06 12:17:49.424 share, we have done a practice 2016-08-06 12:17:53.442 of putting artists in touch with 2016-08-06 12:17:53.428 of putting artists in touch with 2016-08-06 12:17:55.437 each other. 2016-08-06 12:17:55.424 each other. 2016-08-06 12:17:59.442 I'm sorry that didn't happen in 2016-08-06 12:17:59.444 your case. 2016-08-06 12:17:59.429 I'm sorry that didn't happen in 2016-08-06 12:17:59.43 your case. 2016-08-06 12:18:04.439 >> we're talking about things 2016-08-06 12:18:04.441 like accessibility. 2016-08-06 12:18:04.426 >> we're talking about things 2016-08-06 12:18:04.427 like accessibility. 2016-08-06 12:18:08.649 What makes a difference is the 2016-08-06 12:18:08.635 What makes a difference is the 2016-08-06 12:18:13.481 staff and the people and when 2016-08-06 12:18:13.467 staff and the people and when 2016-08-06 12:18:13.483 you show up you are just like 2016-08-06 12:18:13.484 everybody else. 2016-08-06 12:18:13.469 you show up you are just like 2016-08-06 12:18:13.47 everybody else. 2016-08-06 12:18:21.611 How do you want people to train 2016-08-06 12:18:21.612 your staff? 2016-08-06 12:18:21.597 How do you want people to train 2016-08-06 12:18:21.599 your staff? 2016-08-06 12:18:32.614 >> 2016-08-06 12:18:32.616 I think staff knowing a 2016-08-06 12:18:32.601 >> 2016-08-06 12:18:32.602 I think staff knowing a 2016-08-06 12:18:33.615 little bit about disability and 2016-08-06 12:18:33.601 little bit about disability and 2016-08-06 12:18:33.617 cross disability knowledge is 2016-08-06 12:18:33.603 cross disability knowledge is 2016-08-06 12:18:35.613 great. 2016-08-06 12:18:35.599 great. 2016-08-06 12:18:41.619 Going back to asking individual 2016-08-06 12:18:41.605 Going back to asking individual 2016-08-06 12:18:45.618 questions on what exactly you 2016-08-06 12:18:45.62 need to be successful during 2016-08-06 12:18:45.605 questions on what exactly you 2016-08-06 12:18:45.621 your fellowship. 2016-08-06 12:18:45.606 need to be successful during 2016-08-06 12:18:45.608 your fellowship. 2016-08-06 12:18:54.654 >> would you prefer to have them 2016-08-06 12:18:54.64 >> would you prefer to have them 2016-08-06 12:18:55.65 ask you, or would you prefer to 2016-08-06 12:18:55.651 be the one to start the 2016-08-06 12:18:55.636 ask you, or would you prefer to 2016-08-06 12:18:55.653 conversation? 2016-08-06 12:18:55.638 be the one to start the 2016-08-06 12:18:55.639 conversation? 2016-08-06 12:18:58.647 >> I think it depends. 2016-08-06 12:18:58.633 >> I think it depends. 2016-08-06 12:19:03.637 Sometimes it is nice to be 2016-08-06 12:19:03.638 asked. 2016-08-06 12:19:03.694 Sometimes it is nice to be 2016-08-06 12:19:03.695 asked. 2016-08-06 12:19:09.675 I was talking with my mom before 2016-08-06 12:19:09.661 I was talking with my mom before 2016-08-06 12:19:10.663 coming here and everything is 2016-08-06 12:19:10.649 coming here and everything is 2016-08-06 12:19:12.674 such a fight to get what you 2016-08-06 12:19:12.66 such a fight to get what you 2016-08-06 12:19:12.676 need and sometimes it is just a 2016-08-06 12:19:12.666 need and sometimes it is just a 2016-08-06 12:19:14.668 relief to have someone say what 2016-08-06 12:19:14.669 the unique? 2016-08-06 12:19:14.654 relief to have someone say what 2016-08-06 12:19:14.656 the unique? 2016-08-06 12:19:24.737 I 2016-08-06 12:19:24.738 think it is also the 2016-08-06 12:19:24.723 I 2016-08-06 12:19:24.724 think it is also the 2016-08-06 12:19:24.74 responsibility of the artist to 2016-08-06 12:19:24.726 responsibility of the artist to 2016-08-06 12:19:28.734 be their own advocate and tell 2016-08-06 12:19:28.721 be their own advocate and tell 2016-08-06 12:19:36.732 people what is needed 2016-08-06 12:19:36.733 >> that is 2016-08-06 12:19:36.719 people what is needed 2016-08-06 12:19:36.72 >> that is 2016-08-06 12:19:38.735 the asking and speaking up. 2016-08-06 12:19:38.721 the asking and speaking up. 2016-08-06 12:19:38.737 I want you to talk about 2016-08-06 12:19:38.738 soliciting and implementing. 2016-08-06 12:19:38.723 I want you to talk about 2016-08-06 12:19:38.725 soliciting and implementing. 2016-08-06 12:19:50.865 >> again the studio Center sort 2016-08-06 12:19:50.851 >> again the studio Center sort 2016-08-06 12:19:52.864 of found its way into this 2016-08-06 12:19:52.85 of found its way into this 2016-08-06 12:19:53.87 without a clear decision and 2016-08-06 12:19:53.857 without a clear decision and 2016-08-06 12:19:54.872 plan. 2016-08-06 12:19:54.858 plan. 2016-08-06 12:19:56.869 I think it was a matter of 2016-08-06 12:19:56.871 artists arriving before there 2016-08-06 12:19:56.856 I think it was a matter of 2016-08-06 12:19:56.858 artists arriving before there 2016-08-06 12:20:03.931 was any program 2016-08-06 12:20:03.918 was any program 2016-08-06 12:20:04.917 who uses a chair 2016-08-06 12:20:04.918 and we have to figure out what 2016-08-06 12:20:04.903 who uses a chair 2016-08-06 12:20:04.92 do you need and how can we help 2016-08-06 12:20:04.905 and we have to figure out what 2016-08-06 12:20:04.906 do you need and how can we help 2016-08-06 12:20:08.918 you. 2016-08-06 12:20:08.904 you. 2016-08-06 12:20:17.945 He uses a cane to get around and 2016-08-06 12:20:17.931 He uses a cane to get around and 2016-08-06 12:20:19.929 curve edges. 2016-08-06 12:20:19.946 curve edges. 2016-08-06 12:20:29.034 Our campus is sprawling and 2016-08-06 12:20:29.035 strange. 2016-08-06 12:20:29.02 Our campus is sprawling and 2016-08-06 12:20:29.021 strange. 2016-08-06 12:20:31.033 We occupy 30 buildings in this 2016-08-06 12:20:31.034 old village in Vermont. 2016-08-06 12:20:31.019 We occupy 30 buildings in this 2016-08-06 12:20:31.021 old village in Vermont. 2016-08-06 12:20:36.028 Most of them are repurposed. 2016-08-06 12:20:36.014 Most of them are repurposed. 2016-08-06 12:20:42.027 There was no clear curb cut on 2016-08-06 12:20:42.013 There was no clear curb cut on 2016-08-06 12:20:42.029 the way from the dining hall 2016-08-06 12:20:42.015 the way from the dining hall 2016-08-06 12:20:45.028 offices back to his writing 2016-08-06 12:20:45.029 studio. 2016-08-06 12:20:45.014 offices back to his writing 2016-08-06 12:20:45.015 studio. 2016-08-06 12:20:51.028 Our director sat down 2016-08-06 12:20:51.029 and said 2016-08-06 12:20:51.014 Our director sat down 2016-08-06 12:20:51.03 what would you need? 2016-08-06 12:20:51.015 and said 2016-08-06 12:20:51.017 what would you need? 2016-08-06 12:21:00.078 Something that would indicate 2016-08-06 12:21:00.08 where the parking lot ends 2016-08-06 12:21:00.065 Something that would indicate 2016-08-06 12:21:00.066 where the parking lot ends 2016-08-06 12:21:00.082 because there is a large open 2016-08-06 12:21:00.068 because there is a large open 2016-08-06 12:21:06.08 parking lot area 2016-08-06 12:21:06.066 parking lot area 2016-08-06 12:21:07.071 to know where 2016-08-06 12:21:07.072 the open space ends and the 2016-08-06 12:21:07.057 to know where 2016-08-06 12:21:07.074 sidewalk begins. 2016-08-06 12:21:07.059 the open space ends and the 2016-08-06 12:21:07.06 sidewalk begins. 2016-08-06 12:21:17.073 It was very temporary and a 2016-08-06 12:21:17.074 one-person solution. 2016-08-06 12:21:17.059 It was very temporary and a 2016-08-06 12:21:17.06 one-person solution. 2016-08-06 12:21:18.072 I think that is emblematic of 2016-08-06 12:21:18.058 I think that is emblematic of 2016-08-06 12:21:23.073 what we have done so far in 2016-08-06 12:21:23.075 making things work for each 2016-08-06 12:21:23.06 what we have done so far in 2016-08-06 12:21:23.076 person. 2016-08-06 12:21:23.061 making things work for each 2016-08-06 12:21:23.063 person. 2016-08-06 12:21:28.168 Thankfully there is a strategic 2016-08-06 12:21:28.154 Thankfully there is a strategic 2016-08-06 12:21:31.168 plan to renovate the campus with 2016-08-06 12:21:31.154 plan to renovate the campus with 2016-08-06 12:21:32.167 Universal design in mind for 2016-08-06 12:21:32.168 each house and studio. 2016-08-06 12:21:32.154 Universal design in mind for 2016-08-06 12:21:32.156 each house and studio. 2016-08-06 12:21:38.166 Whether it is open Studios 2016-08-06 12:21:38.152 Whether it is open Studios 2016-08-06 12:21:40.167 night 2016-08-06 12:21:40.153 night 2016-08-06 12:21:41.169 or all the artists who feel like 2016-08-06 12:21:41.155 or all the artists who feel like 2016-08-06 12:21:44.167 it open their doors and share, 2016-08-06 12:21:44.153 it open their doors and share, 2016-08-06 12:21:47.197 we won't be dis-including anyone 2016-08-06 12:21:47.187 we won't be dis-including anyone 2016-08-06 12:21:48.204 because currently the upstairs 2016-08-06 12:21:48.19 because currently the upstairs 2016-08-06 12:21:48.206 studios are mostly and 2016-08-06 12:21:48.207 accessible. 2016-08-06 12:21:48.192 studios are mostly and 2016-08-06 12:21:48.193 accessible. 2016-08-06 12:21:51.198 Within 10 years they all will 2016-08-06 12:21:51.199 be. 2016-08-06 12:21:51.184 Within 10 years they all will 2016-08-06 12:21:51.185 be. 2016-08-06 12:21:57.281 In the meantime it is completely 2016-08-06 12:21:57.268 In the meantime it is completely 2016-08-06 12:22:00.283 about listening, empathy, and 2016-08-06 12:22:00.269 about listening, empathy, and 2016-08-06 12:22:01.28 the fact that that is what we 2016-08-06 12:22:01.266 the fact that that is what we 2016-08-06 12:22:05.281 do, it is a hospitality 2016-08-06 12:22:05.267 do, it is a hospitality 2016-08-06 12:22:06.285 environment. 2016-08-06 12:22:06.286 We want everyone to feel 2016-08-06 12:22:06.271 environment. 2016-08-06 12:22:06.287 comfortable. 2016-08-06 12:22:06.273 We want everyone to feel 2016-08-06 12:22:06.274 comfortable. 2016-08-06 12:22:11.281 >> taking action. 2016-08-06 12:22:11.268 >> taking action. 2016-08-06 12:22:15.28 I remember one incident, there 2016-08-06 12:22:15.266 I remember one incident, there 2016-08-06 12:22:16.284 were one of the houses I needed 2016-08-06 12:22:16.285 to get into. 2016-08-06 12:22:16.27 were one of the houses I needed 2016-08-06 12:22:16.272 to get into. 2016-08-06 12:22:23.284 I could have gotten over with 2016-08-06 12:22:23.286 just a push. 2016-08-06 12:22:23.271 I could have gotten over with 2016-08-06 12:22:23.272 just a push. 2016-08-06 12:22:30.325 By that afternoon there was a 2016-08-06 12:22:30.327 ramp there. 2016-08-06 12:22:30.312 By that afternoon there was a 2016-08-06 12:22:30.313 ramp there. 2016-08-06 12:22:35.325 I was beaming with joy because 2016-08-06 12:22:35.312 I was beaming with joy because 2016-08-06 12:22:36.325 there was a ramp there for me. 2016-08-06 12:22:36.312 there was a ramp there for me. 2016-08-06 12:22:41.325 He saw that there was that 2016-08-06 12:22:41.327 issue. 2016-08-06 12:22:41.312 He saw that there was that 2016-08-06 12:22:41.313 issue. 2016-08-06 12:22:45.322 >> I want to break that down. 2016-08-06 12:22:45.341 >> I want to break that down. 2016-08-06 12:22:49.326 Did you contact them and say 2016-08-06 12:22:49.327 there was an issue? 2016-08-06 12:22:49.312 Did you contact them and say 2016-08-06 12:22:49.314 there was an issue? 2016-08-06 12:22:54.326 >> there was another artist that 2016-08-06 12:22:54.327 noticed it. 2016-08-06 12:22:54.312 >> there was another artist that 2016-08-06 12:22:54.314 noticed it. 2016-08-06 12:22:58.375 She went over and spoke up for 2016-08-06 12:22:58.377 me. 2016-08-06 12:22:58.366 She went over and spoke up for 2016-08-06 12:22:58.367 me. 2016-08-06 12:23:02.42 >> that is why we love art. 2016-08-06 12:23:02.406 >> that is why we love art. 2016-08-06 12:23:09.421 That only happens in this 2016-08-06 12:23:09.407 That only happens in this 2016-08-06 12:23:09.423 community so be proud of 2016-08-06 12:23:09.424 yourselves. 2016-08-06 12:23:09.409 community so be proud of 2016-08-06 12:23:09.41 yourselves. 2016-08-06 12:23:21.451 We are talking about two 2016-08-06 12:23:21.437 We are talking about two 2016-08-06 12:23:22.454 distinct faces of this process 2016-08-06 12:23:22.44 distinct faces of this process 2016-08-06 12:23:22.456 before and during. 2016-08-06 12:23:22.442 before and during. 2016-08-06 12:23:30.535 I'm sensing you have a list of 2016-08-06 12:23:30.536 things you want to know. 2016-08-06 12:23:30.521 I'm sensing you have a list of 2016-08-06 12:23:30.523 things you want to know. 2016-08-06 12:23:35.543 Then there 2016-08-06 12:23:35.544 are a bunch of 2016-08-06 12:23:35.53 Then there 2016-08-06 12:23:35.546 wildcards that happened during. 2016-08-06 12:23:35.531 are a bunch of 2016-08-06 12:23:35.532 wildcards that happened during. 2016-08-06 12:23:40.535 What is the smoothest way for 2016-08-06 12:23:40.536 that process. 2016-08-06 12:23:40.521 What is the smoothest way for 2016-08-06 12:23:40.523 that process. 2016-08-06 12:23:47.535 You want to be able 2016-08-06 12:23:47.521 You want to be able 2016-08-06 12:23:48.553 to be a 2016-08-06 12:23:48.539 to be a 2016-08-06 12:23:51.538 resident, do your work, and not 2016-08-06 12:23:51.524 resident, do your work, and not 2016-08-06 12:23:51.54 spend the day advocating for 2016-08-06 12:23:51.541 yourself. 2016-08-06 12:23:51.526 spend the day advocating for 2016-08-06 12:23:51.527 yourself. 2016-08-06 12:23:57.579 How does the ideal process look 2016-08-06 12:23:57.581 for you? 2016-08-06 12:23:57.566 How does the ideal process look 2016-08-06 12:23:57.567 for you? 2016-08-06 12:24:03.624 >> having someone I could go to 2016-08-06 12:24:03.61 >> having someone I could go to 2016-08-06 12:24:03.626 as a point person. 2016-08-06 12:24:03.612 as a point person. 2016-08-06 12:24:09.658 It makes it easier. 2016-08-06 12:24:09.676 It makes it easier. 2016-08-06 12:24:13.671 Although a lot of times it 2016-08-06 12:24:13.657 Although a lot of times it 2016-08-06 12:24:13.673 doesn't work that way. 2016-08-06 12:24:13.659 doesn't work that way. 2016-08-06 12:24:17.682 Having someone who could be your 2016-08-06 12:24:17.683 point person is great. 2016-08-06 12:24:17.668 Having someone who could be your 2016-08-06 12:24:17.67 point person is great. 2016-08-06 12:24:28.721 >> so the person you 2016-08-06 12:24:28.722 call who 2016-08-06 12:24:28.707 >> so the person you 2016-08-06 12:24:28.708 call who 2016-08-06 12:24:31.746 says I have to go to the studio, 2016-08-06 12:24:31.733 says I have to go to the studio, 2016-08-06 12:24:32.747 and that person magically takes 2016-08-06 12:24:32.733 and that person magically takes 2016-08-06 12:24:32.749 care of it. 2016-08-06 12:24:32.735 care of it. 2016-08-06 12:24:37.778 From your end, how does that 2016-08-06 12:24:37.78 sound? 2016-08-06 12:24:37.797 From your end, how does that 2016-08-06 12:24:37.799 sound? 2016-08-06 12:24:41.79 >> that sounds great. 2016-08-06 12:24:41.776 >> that sounds great. 2016-08-06 12:24:48.792 Part of this comes to our 2016-08-06 12:24:48.793 housekeeping and maintenance 2016-08-06 12:24:48.778 Part of this comes to our 2016-08-06 12:24:48.795 crew. 2016-08-06 12:24:48.78 housekeeping and maintenance 2016-08-06 12:24:48.781 crew. 2016-08-06 12:24:51.799 They check requests throughout 2016-08-06 12:24:51.785 They check requests throughout 2016-08-06 12:24:56.789 the day when someone's window 2016-08-06 12:24:56.775 the day when someone's window 2016-08-06 12:24:59.83 doesn't open to this threshold, 2016-08-06 12:24:59.816 doesn't open to this threshold, 2016-08-06 12:25:02.875 could it be removed to we need 2016-08-06 12:25:02.861 could it be removed to we need 2016-08-06 12:25:05.873 another easel or the wall isn't 2016-08-06 12:25:05.874 flat enough. 2016-08-06 12:25:05.859 another easel or the wall isn't 2016-08-06 12:25:05.86 flat enough. 2016-08-06 12:25:11.872 Obviously it needs to be 2016-08-06 12:25:11.873 refined. 2016-08-06 12:25:11.859 Obviously it needs to be 2016-08-06 12:25:11.86 refined. 2016-08-06 12:25:20.875 I think that is exactly how I 2016-08-06 12:25:20.876 found myself handling a lot of 2016-08-06 12:25:20.861 I think that is exactly how I 2016-08-06 12:25:20.863 found myself handling a lot of 2016-08-06 12:25:22.876 accessibility issues, I was the 2016-08-06 12:25:22.863 accessibility issues, I was the 2016-08-06 12:25:27.876 grants manager because of 2016-08-06 12:25:27.862 grants manager because of 2016-08-06 12:25:27.878 funding and often federal 2016-08-06 12:25:27.864 funding and often federal 2016-08-06 12:25:27.865 funding. 2016-08-06 12:25:27.883 funding. 2016-08-06 12:25:38.923 We have point people. 2016-08-06 12:25:38.909 We have point people. 2016-08-06 12:25:42.923 If it is a food issue we have 2016-08-06 12:25:42.909 If it is a food issue we have 2016-08-06 12:25:43.921 people in the kitchen. 2016-08-06 12:25:43.907 people in the kitchen. 2016-08-06 12:25:46.924 If it is a 3-D studio need we 2016-08-06 12:25:46.925 have a different staff. 2016-08-06 12:25:46.91 If it is a 3-D studio need we 2016-08-06 12:25:46.911 have a different staff. 2016-08-06 12:25:51.972 It is staffed to 2016-08-06 12:25:51.973 accommodate the 2016-08-06 12:25:51.958 It is staffed to 2016-08-06 12:25:51.974 55 people. 2016-08-06 12:25:51.959 accommodate the 2016-08-06 12:25:51.96 55 people. 2016-08-06 12:25:57.979 It doesn't feel like we get 2016-08-06 12:25:57.965 It doesn't feel like we get 2016-08-06 12:25:57.981 everybody every day. 2016-08-06 12:25:57.967 everybody every day. 2016-08-06 12:26:08.002 It is clear where you go to. 2016-08-06 12:26:07.988 It is clear where you go to. 2016-08-06 12:26:14 I think there 2016-08-06 12:26:13.986 I think there 2016-08-06 12:26:16.007 is some confusion 2016-08-06 12:26:16.008 and communication can solve a 2016-08-06 12:26:16.009 lot of that. 2016-08-06 12:26:15.994 is some confusion 2016-08-06 12:26:15.995 and communication can solve a 2016-08-06 12:26:15.997 lot of that. 2016-08-06 12:26:23.003 >> question time. 2016-08-06 12:26:22.989 >> question time. 2016-08-06 12:26:26.003 Of course. 2016-08-06 12:26:25.989 Of course. 2016-08-06 12:26:37.045 >> I'm curious 2016-08-06 12:26:37.046 about your work 2016-08-06 12:26:37.031 >> I'm curious 2016-08-06 12:26:37.032 about your work 2016-08-06 12:26:38.048 as an artist. 2016-08-06 12:26:38.034 as an artist. 2016-08-06 12:26:40.042 Sometimes when I look at artwork 2016-08-06 12:26:40.028 Sometimes when I look at artwork 2016-08-06 12:26:44.045 where disability is the subject, 2016-08-06 12:26:44.046 I feel like sometimes I can 2016-08-06 12:26:44.031 where disability is the subject, 2016-08-06 12:26:44.048 discern whether the work has 2016-08-06 12:26:44.033 I feel like sometimes I can 2016-08-06 12:26:44.035 discern whether the work has 2016-08-06 12:26:50.045 been 2016-08-06 12:26:50.031 been 2016-08-06 12:26:51.045 done and I'm curious about 2016-08-06 12:26:51.031 done and I'm curious about 2016-08-06 12:26:53.064 your perspective on that and 2016-08-06 12:26:53.05 your perspective on that and 2016-08-06 12:26:53.066 whether you feel like you see 2016-08-06 12:26:53.052 whether you feel like you see 2016-08-06 12:26:55.044 something that people who don't 2016-08-06 12:26:55.03 something that people who don't 2016-08-06 12:26:58.037 have disabilities don't see. 2016-08-06 12:26:58.056 have disabilities don't see. 2016-08-06 12:27:02.045 And your perspective about 2016-08-06 12:27:02.046 whether you see something in 2016-08-06 12:27:02.031 And your perspective about 2016-08-06 12:27:02.033 whether you see something in 2016-08-06 12:27:04.045 Rebecca's work or other artists 2016-08-06 12:27:04.032 Rebecca's work or other artists 2016-08-06 12:27:07.129 who try to capture the 2016-08-06 12:27:07.116 who try to capture the 2016-08-06 12:27:10.129 experience of disability who 2016-08-06 12:27:10.13 don't hit the mark. 2016-08-06 12:27:10.115 experience of disability who 2016-08-06 12:27:10.116 don't hit the mark. 2016-08-06 12:27:16.129 >> you mean a 2016-08-06 12:27:16.13 my own personal 2016-08-06 12:27:16.115 >> you mean a 2016-08-06 12:27:16.116 my own personal 2016-08-06 12:27:17.128 work or if I see other work by 2016-08-06 12:27:17.13 other disabled artists? 2016-08-06 12:27:17.115 work or if I see other work by 2016-08-06 12:27:17.116 other disabled artists? 2016-08-06 12:27:21.132 >> I guess when you are working, 2016-08-06 12:27:21.119 >> I guess when you are working, 2016-08-06 12:27:27.131 in your own personal work 2016-08-06 12:27:27.132 , 2016-08-06 12:27:27.117 in your own personal work 2016-08-06 12:27:27.118 , 2016-08-06 12:27:29.13 doesn't feel a queue or 2016-08-06 12:27:29.117 doesn't feel a queue or 2016-08-06 12:27:30.129 capturing other artists that 2016-08-06 12:27:30.115 capturing other artists that 2016-08-06 12:27:40.127 don't have those disabilities? 2016-08-06 12:27:40.114 don't have those disabilities? 2016-08-06 12:27:43.177 >> my personal experience I can 2016-08-06 12:27:43.179 share in my art. 2016-08-06 12:27:43.164 >> my personal experience I can 2016-08-06 12:27:43.165 share in my art. 2016-08-06 12:27:47.176 For example I'm currently 2016-08-06 12:27:47.163 For example I'm currently 2016-08-06 12:27:54.231 working on 2016-08-06 12:27:54.232 a series of free 2016-08-06 12:27:54.217 working on 2016-08-06 12:27:54.218 a series of free 2016-08-06 12:27:58.228 creations of different iconic 2016-08-06 12:27:58.214 creations of different iconic 2016-08-06 12:28:02.225 works of art or images in 2016-08-06 12:28:02.225 history. 2016-08-06 12:28:02.211 works of art or images in 2016-08-06 12:28:02.212 history. 2016-08-06 12:28:15.26 My wheelchair was very 2016-08-06 12:28:15.262 prominent. 2016-08-06 12:28:15.247 My wheelchair was very 2016-08-06 12:28:15.248 prominent. 2016-08-06 12:28:22.256 After doing that 2016-08-06 12:28:22.257 it is between 2016-08-06 12:28:22.242 After doing that 2016-08-06 12:28:22.243 it is between 2016-08-06 12:28:24.26 me and two other artists. 2016-08-06 12:28:24.247 me and two other artists. 2016-08-06 12:28:29.242 We could really do this with all 2016-08-06 12:28:29.259 We could really do this with all 2016-08-06 12:28:31.255 sorts of images. 2016-08-06 12:28:31.241 sorts of images. 2016-08-06 12:28:36.257 We just finished doing the Last 2016-08-06 12:28:36.243 We just finished doing the Last 2016-08-06 12:28:40.265 Supper, which everyone is a 2016-08-06 12:28:40.266 person with disability. 2016-08-06 12:28:40.251 Supper, which everyone is a 2016-08-06 12:28:40.252 person with disability. 2016-08-06 12:28:47.254 Someone who is 2016-08-06 12:28:47.24 Someone who is 2016-08-06 12:28:48.264 blind, another 2016-08-06 12:28:48.25 blind, another 2016-08-06 12:28:49.259 person who is short in stature, 2016-08-06 12:28:49.26 it was just awesome. 2016-08-06 12:28:49.245 person who is short in stature, 2016-08-06 12:28:49.247 it was just awesome. 2016-08-06 12:28:53.26 We are going to be doing 2016-08-06 12:28:53.247 We are going to be doing 2016-08-06 12:28:56.263 whistlers mother and Rosie the 2016-08-06 12:28:56.249 whistlers mother and Rosie the 2016-08-06 12:28:59.259 riveter. 2016-08-06 12:28:59.245 riveter. 2016-08-06 12:29:07.261 We are bringing perspectives of 2016-08-06 12:29:07.247 We are bringing perspectives of 2016-08-06 12:29:14.299 disability 2016-08-06 12:29:14.3 . 2016-08-06 12:29:14.286 disability 2016-08-06 12:29:14.286 . 2016-08-06 12:29:22.344 You can look at it and do a 2016-08-06 12:29:22.33 You can look at it and do a 2016-08-06 12:29:26.343 double take and say these are 2016-08-06 12:29:26.329 double take and say these are 2016-08-06 12:29:26.345 all people with disabilities. 2016-08-06 12:29:26.331 all people with disabilities. 2016-08-06 12:29:36.39 I definitely think 2016-08-06 12:29:36.378 I definitely think 2016-08-06 12:29:37.346 disability is 2016-08-06 12:29:37.332 disability is 2016-08-06 12:29:37.348 very prominent in my work. 2016-08-06 12:29:37.334 very prominent in my work. 2016-08-06 12:29:44.348 I guess it is not always in your 2016-08-06 12:29:44.349 face. 2016-08-06 12:29:44.334 I guess it is not always in your 2016-08-06 12:29:44.335 face. 2016-08-06 12:29:48.345 It was subtle and I like that. 2016-08-06 12:29:48.331 It was subtle and I like that. 2016-08-06 12:29:54.35 >> 2016-08-06 12:29:54.336 >> 2016-08-06 12:29:55.347 can I say you need to talk to 2016-08-06 12:29:55.333 can I say you need to talk to 2016-08-06 12:29:55.349 folks at the Andy Warhol Museum. 2016-08-06 12:29:55.335 folks at the Andy Warhol Museum. 2016-08-06 12:30:03.346 I want to make it 2016-08-06 12:30:03.332 I want to make it 2016-08-06 12:30:07.346 extraordinarily clear that just 2016-08-06 12:30:07.332 extraordinarily clear that just 2016-08-06 12:30:08.342 because an artist has 2016-08-06 12:30:08.329 because an artist has 2016-08-06 12:30:09.345 disability, their work doesn't 2016-08-06 12:30:09.331 disability, their work doesn't 2016-08-06 12:30:09.333 have to be about disability. 2016-08-06 12:30:09.351 have to be about disability. 2016-08-06 12:30:15.386 We don't want to shove 2016-08-06 12:30:15.387 people 2016-08-06 12:30:15.372 We don't want to shove 2016-08-06 12:30:15.388 into a pigeonhole. 2016-08-06 12:30:15.373 people 2016-08-06 12:30:15.375 into a pigeonhole. 2016-08-06 12:30:19.388 >> I can see these in my head 2016-08-06 12:30:19.389 now. 2016-08-06 12:30:19.374 >> I can see these in my head 2016-08-06 12:30:19.379 now. 2016-08-06 12:30:24.385 I don't have the expertise to 2016-08-06 12:30:24.371 I don't have the expertise to 2016-08-06 12:30:24.387 look into a piece of work if it 2016-08-06 12:30:24.373 look into a piece of work if it 2016-08-06 12:30:28.389 is someone who has that personal 2016-08-06 12:30:28.375 is someone who has that personal 2016-08-06 12:30:28.391 disability experience or not. 2016-08-06 12:30:28.377 disability experience or not. 2016-08-06 12:30:38.387 And again we have seen a range 2016-08-06 12:30:38.373 And again we have seen a range 2016-08-06 12:30:40.388 of 16 through 20 artists who 2016-08-06 12:30:40.39 have come through the last five 2016-08-06 12:30:40.375 of 16 through 20 artists who 2016-08-06 12:30:40.376 have come through the last five 2016-08-06 12:30:44.431 years of this Nielsen grant 2016-08-06 12:30:44.432 supported program. 2016-08-06 12:30:44.417 years of this Nielsen grant 2016-08-06 12:30:44.418 supported program. 2016-08-06 12:30:50.479 Maybe one third of people, their 2016-08-06 12:30:50.48 work speaks directly to 2016-08-06 12:30:50.465 Maybe one third of people, their 2016-08-06 12:30:50.481 disability. 2016-08-06 12:30:50.466 work speaks directly to 2016-08-06 12:30:50.468 disability. 2016-08-06 12:30:54.485 Two thirds it doesn't. 2016-08-06 12:30:54.471 Two thirds it doesn't. 2016-08-06 12:30:59.479 Part of the admissions process 2016-08-06 12:30:59.465 Part of the admissions process 2016-08-06 12:31:04.583 is looking 2016-08-06 12:31:04.569 is looking 2016-08-06 12:31:05.531 for excellent work. 2016-08-06 12:31:05.518 for excellent work. 2016-08-06 12:31:06.525 So we hire out independent 2016-08-06 12:31:06.511 So we hire out independent 2016-08-06 12:31:06.527 juries who are always looking at 2016-08-06 12:31:06.513 juries who are always looking at 2016-08-06 12:31:10.533 all work, totally blind first. 2016-08-06 12:31:10.519 all work, totally blind first. 2016-08-06 12:31:13.532 They are seeing it without name, 2016-08-06 12:31:13.518 They are seeing it without name, 2016-08-06 12:31:15.533 without any identifying marks, 2016-08-06 12:31:15.519 without any identifying marks, 2016-08-06 12:31:17.557 they are just assessing the work 2016-08-06 12:31:17.543 they are just assessing the work 2016-08-06 12:31:17.545 on artistic merit and 2016-08-06 12:31:17.546 excellence. 2016-08-06 12:31:17.562 on artistic merit and 2016-08-06 12:31:17.564 excellence. 2016-08-06 12:31:25.602 The writers 2016-08-06 12:31:25.588 The writers 2016-08-06 12:31:26.6 , one man was writing 2016-08-06 12:31:26.586 , one man was writing 2016-08-06 12:31:26.602 a memoir about the person who 2016-08-06 12:31:26.588 a memoir about the person who 2016-08-06 12:31:30.596 shot him when he was a teenager 2016-08-06 12:31:30.598 and that resulted in a spinal 2016-08-06 12:31:30.599 cord injury. 2016-08-06 12:31:30.585 shot him when he was a teenager 2016-08-06 12:31:30.589 and that resulted in a spinal 2016-08-06 12:31:30.59 cord injury. 2016-08-06 12:31:36.604 Another poet was writing about 2016-08-06 12:31:36.59 Another poet was writing about 2016-08-06 12:31:36.606 her experiences with MS. 2016-08-06 12:31:36.592 her experiences with MS. 2016-08-06 12:31:41.607 They are writing about whatever 2016-08-06 12:31:41.608 they are writing. 2016-08-06 12:31:41.593 They are writing about whatever 2016-08-06 12:31:41.594 they are writing. 2016-08-06 12:31:46.639 It is the art inside him that 2016-08-06 12:31:46.655 It is the art inside him that 2016-08-06 12:31:46.656 they want to explore. 2016-08-06 12:31:46.641 they want to explore. 2016-08-06 12:31:51.643 >> could you share your website 2016-08-06 12:31:51.645 if you have one? 2016-08-06 12:31:51.63 >> could you share your website 2016-08-06 12:31:51.631 if you have one? 2016-08-06 12:31:56.651 >> I don't actually 2016-08-06 12:31:56.652 have one. 2016-08-06 12:31:56.637 >> I don't actually 2016-08-06 12:31:56.638 have one. 2016-08-06 12:32:00.657 >> your work sounds interesting. 2016-08-06 12:32:00.643 >> your work sounds interesting. 2016-08-06 12:32:04.642 >> I just started and Instagram 2016-08-06 12:32:04.643 thing. 2016-08-06 12:32:04.628 >> I just started and Instagram 2016-08-06 12:32:04.629 thing. 2016-08-06 12:32:10.645 >> that won't help me. 2016-08-06 12:32:10.631 >> that won't help me. 2016-08-06 12:32:16.685 >> she is also very modest 2016-08-06 12:32:16.671 >> she is also very modest 2016-08-06 12:32:17.736 and 2016-08-06 12:32:17.722 and 2016-08-06 12:32:17.738 backbones the organization she 2016-08-06 12:32:17.739 founded. 2016-08-06 12:32:17.724 backbones the organization she 2016-08-06 12:32:17.725 founded. 2016-08-06 12:32:23.734 >> with that in 2016-08-06 12:32:23.72 >> with that in 2016-08-06 12:32:26.73 mind, could you 2016-08-06 12:32:26.717 mind, could you 2016-08-06 12:32:31.78 put some of what you are doing 2016-08-06 12:32:31.782 in those photographs you 2016-08-06 12:32:31.767 put some of what you are doing 2016-08-06 12:32:31.769 in those photographs you 2016-08-06 12:32:34.782 described and juxtapose it with 2016-08-06 12:32:34.769 described and juxtapose it with 2016-08-06 12:32:37.78 someone like DNR this? 2016-08-06 12:32:37.767 someone like DNR this? 2016-08-06 12:32:44.782 And some other folks who take 2016-08-06 12:32:44.768 And some other folks who take 2016-08-06 12:32:44.784 images of people with 2016-08-06 12:32:44.77 images of people with 2016-08-06 12:32:49.784 disabilities but were not with 2016-08-06 12:32:49.77 disabilities but were not with 2016-08-06 12:32:51.809 those physical disabilities. 2016-08-06 12:32:51.798 those physical disabilities. 2016-08-06 12:32:55.812 Any thoughts on those 2016-08-06 12:32:55.799 Any thoughts on those 2016-08-06 12:32:59.81 documentary photographers? there 2016-08-06 12:32:59.796 documentary photographers? there 2016-08-06 12:32:59.812 is another photographer who 2016-08-06 12:32:59.797 is another photographer who 2016-08-06 12:33:04.799 passed away and put men who are 2016-08-06 12:33:04.819 passed away 2016-08-06 12:33:04.821 and put men who are 2016-08-06 12:33:07.809 missing on pedestals. 2016-08-06 12:33:07.795 missing on pedestals. 2016-08-06 12:33:13.81 As if they were Roman portions 2016-08-06 12:33:13.796 As if they were Roman portions 2016-08-06 12:33:18.818 of fragments of the 2016-08-06 12:33:18.804 of fragments of the 2016-08-06 12:33:20.864 sculptures. 2016-08-06 12:33:20.85 sculptures. 2016-08-06 12:33:25.855 I would be interested to hear 2016-08-06 12:33:25.841 I would be interested to hear 2016-08-06 12:33:25.857 someone's perspective. 2016-08-06 12:33:25.843 someone's perspective. 2016-08-06 12:33:30.851 >> are you interested in hearing 2016-08-06 12:33:30.837 >> are you interested in hearing 2016-08-06 12:33:31.854 Rebecca's perspective of the per 2016-08-06 12:33:31.856 trail of disability? 2016-08-06 12:33:31.841 Rebecca's perspective of the per 2016-08-06 12:33:31.842 trail of disability? 2016-08-06 12:33:34.853 >> thank you for refining my 2016-08-06 12:33:34.854 question. 2016-08-06 12:33:34.839 >> thank you for refining my 2016-08-06 12:33:34.84 question. 2016-08-06 12:33:38.851 >> thank you. 2016-08-06 12:33:38.838 >> thank you. 2016-08-06 12:33:46.853 >> when you are looking at art 2016-08-06 12:33:46.839 >> when you are looking at art 2016-08-06 12:33:50.855 that the trays -- art that 2016-08-06 12:33:50.841 that the trays -- art that 2016-08-06 12:33:52.896 betrays disability, what do you 2016-08-06 12:33:52.898 want to see? 2016-08-06 12:33:52.883 betrays disability, what do you 2016-08-06 12:33:52.884 want to see? 2016-08-06 12:34:03.897 >> a lot of times 2016-08-06 12:34:03.883 >> a lot of times 2016-08-06 12:34:08.896 disability 2016-08-06 12:34:08.897 has 2016-08-06 12:34:08.882 disability 2016-08-06 12:34:08.883 has 2016-08-06 12:34:10.902 been images of people, it is 2016-08-06 12:34:10.888 been images of people, it is 2016-08-06 12:34:10.89 either pity or inspiration. 2016-08-06 12:34:10.908 either pity or inspiration. 2016-08-06 12:34:17.894 I want to see 2016-08-06 12:34:17.881 I want to see 2016-08-06 12:34:20.911 real and I 2016-08-06 12:34:20.912 don't 2016-08-06 12:34:20.899 real and I 2016-08-06 12:34:20.9 don't 2016-08-06 12:34:21.897 want to see images of disability 2016-08-06 12:34:21.899 being the subject all the time. 2016-08-06 12:34:21.884 want to see images of disability 2016-08-06 12:34:21.885 being the subject all the time. 2016-08-06 12:34:27.937 But as a 2016-08-06 12:34:27.938 component of the whole 2016-08-06 12:34:27.923 But as a 2016-08-06 12:34:27.939 thing. 2016-08-06 12:34:27.924 component of the whole 2016-08-06 12:34:27.925 thing. 2016-08-06 12:34:31.941 >> what do you mean by real? 2016-08-06 12:34:31.927 >> what do you mean by real? 2016-08-06 12:34:37.943 I think your perspective 2016-08-06 12:34:37.944 of real 2016-08-06 12:34:37.929 I think your perspective 2016-08-06 12:34:37.93 of real 2016-08-06 12:34:38.939 is very different than the 2016-08-06 12:34:38.925 is very different than the 2016-08-06 12:34:39.938 perspective of someone who does 2016-08-06 12:34:39.924 perspective of someone who does 2016-08-06 12:34:39.94 not use a wheelchair. 2016-08-06 12:34:39.926 not use a wheelchair. 2016-08-06 12:34:45.938 >> what I mean 2016-08-06 12:34:45.925 >> what I mean 2016-08-06 12:34:47.942 is there is a 2016-08-06 12:34:47.928 is there is a 2016-08-06 12:34:51.982 spectrum going with a whole 2016-08-06 12:34:51.968 spectrum going with a whole 2016-08-06 12:34:54.03 spectrum in between. 2016-08-06 12:34:54.016 spectrum in between. 2016-08-06 12:35:06.066 I don't want to see images of 2016-08-06 12:35:06.052 I don't want to see images of 2016-08-06 12:35:06.068 people being sad or hopeless in 2016-08-06 12:35:06.054 people being sad or hopeless in 2016-08-06 12:35:09.063 the sunset like this? 2016-08-06 12:35:09.049 the sunset like this? 2016-08-06 12:35:13.064 There is a lot in between. 2016-08-06 12:35:13.05 There is a lot in between. 2016-08-06 12:35:17.066 And a lot of diversity that 2016-08-06 12:35:17.053 And a lot of diversity that 2016-08-06 12:35:20.082 makes for excellent content. 2016-08-06 12:35:20.068 makes for excellent content. 2016-08-06 12:35:26.064 >> 2016-08-06 12:35:26.05 >> 2016-08-06 12:35:27.068 we are four minutes over so 2016-08-06 12:35:27.054 we are four minutes over so 2016-08-06 12:35:28.107 we will give a round of applause 2016-08-06 12:35:28.108 to our two folks up here. 2016-08-06 12:35:28.093 we will give a round of applause 2016-08-06 12:35:28.094 to our two folks up here. 2016-08-06 12:35:34.148 We are going to break and have 2016-08-06 12:35:34.134 We are going to break and have 2016-08-06 12:35:38.148 lunch and come back at -- 2016-08-06 12:35:38.134 lunch and come back at -- 2016-08-06 12:35:40.151 >> any questions feel free to 2016-08-06 12:35:40.137 >> any questions feel free to 2016-08-06 12:35:41.148 write them on the post-its. 2016-08-06 12:35:41.134 write them on the post-its. 2016-08-06 12:35:46.157 Come back to lunch at 1 p.m. 2016-08-06 12:35:46.143 Come back to lunch at 1 p.m. 2016-08-06 12:35:47.15 You can speak over the lunch if 2016-08-06 12:35:47.136 You can speak over the lunch if 2016-08-06 12:35:48.151 you need to. 2016-08-06 12:35:48.137 you need to. 2016-08-06 12:47:46.457 >> Please stand by. 2016-08-06 12:47:50.455 >> Please stand by. 2016-08-06 12:47:52.456 >> Please stand by. 2016-08-06 12:47:53.504 >> Please stand by. 2016-08-06 12:47:54.503 . 2016-08-06 12:58:56.124 . 2016-08-06 12:58:56.138 . 2016-08-06 12:58:57.125 . 2016-08-06 12:58:57.139 . 2016-08-06 12:59:00.125 >> Please stand by. 2016-08-06 12:59:00.14 >> Please stand by. 2016-08-06 12:59:03.124 . 2016-08-06 12:59:03.139 . 2016-08-06 13:08:52.603 >> If I can have your attention, 2016-08-06 13:08:52.605 everyone. 2016-08-06 13:08:52.617 >> If I can have your attention, 2016-08-06 13:08:52.619 everyone. 2016-08-06 13:08:53.609 Thank you. 2016-08-06 13:08:53.622 Thank you. 2016-08-06 13:08:55.631 Good. 2016-08-06 13:08:55.644 Good. 2016-08-06 13:09:05.712 Once again, for 2016-08-06 13:09:05.713 anyone I did not 2016-08-06 13:09:05.725 Once again, for 2016-08-06 13:09:05.726 anyone I did not 2016-08-06 13:09:09.714 meet, I'm from the cultural 2016-08-06 13:09:09.715 trust. 2016-08-06 13:09:09.728 meet, I'm from the cultural 2016-08-06 13:09:09.729 trust. 2016-08-06 13:09:12.712 This is one of our many 2016-08-06 13:09:12.725 This is one of our many 2016-08-06 13:09:16.713 locations in the cultural 2016-08-06 13:09:16.726 locations in the cultural 2016-08-06 13:09:18.713 District we are in right now. 2016-08-06 13:09:18.726 District we are in right now. 2016-08-06 13:09:21.762 I would like to thank you all 2016-08-06 13:09:21.777 I would like to thank you all 2016-08-06 13:09:22.812 for your flexibility and 2016-08-06 13:09:22.826 for your flexibility and 2016-08-06 13:09:24.859 patience today. 2016-08-06 13:09:24.872 patience today. 2016-08-06 13:09:28.968 As you can tell, we have a lot 2016-08-06 13:09:28.981 As you can tell, we have a lot 2016-08-06 13:09:31.015 of old buildings in the cultural 2016-08-06 13:09:31.016 District. 2016-08-06 13:09:31.028 of old buildings in the cultural 2016-08-06 13:09:31.03 District. 2016-08-06 13:09:35.108 They have a varying level of 2016-08-06 13:09:35.122 They have a varying level of 2016-08-06 13:09:36.134 amenities. 2016-08-06 13:09:36.148 amenities. 2016-08-06 13:09:42.302 I am here to introduce 2016-08-06 13:09:42.303 our 2016-08-06 13:09:42.315 I am here to introduce 2016-08-06 13:09:42.316 our 2016-08-06 13:09:44.352 keynote conversation for the 2016-08-06 13:09:44.354 day. 2016-08-06 13:09:44.366 keynote conversation for the 2016-08-06 13:09:44.367 day. 2016-08-06 13:09:49.472 First of all, our 2016-08-06 13:09:49.476 interviewer is 2016-08-06 13:09:49.485 First of all, our 2016-08-06 13:09:49.486 interviewer is 2016-08-06 13:09:52.511 Beth Bienvenu from the National 2016-08-06 13:09:52.525 Beth Bienvenu from the National 2016-08-06 13:09:53.549 Endowment for the Arts. 2016-08-06 13:09:53.562 Endowment for the Arts. 2016-08-06 13:09:58.601 Beth 2016-08-06 13:09:58.602 , in her time at the 2016-08-06 13:09:58.614 Beth 2016-08-06 13:09:58.615 , in her time at the 2016-08-06 13:10:03.724 national endowment, has built 2016-08-06 13:10:03.738 national endowment, has built 2016-08-06 13:10:06.763 relationships, clustered 2016-08-06 13:10:06.776 relationships, clustered 2016-08-06 13:10:08.808 previous relationships people 2016-08-06 13:10:08.822 previous relationships people 2016-08-06 13:10:14.879 had with the INI a -- NEA 2016-08-06 13:10:14.88 and 2016-08-06 13:10:14.893 had with the INI a -- NEA 2016-08-06 13:10:14.894 and 2016-08-06 13:10:16.881 has revolutionized the way they 2016-08-06 13:10:16.895 has revolutionized the way they 2016-08-06 13:10:18.881 think about people with 2016-08-06 13:10:18.882 disabilities. 2016-08-06 13:10:18.894 think about people with 2016-08-06 13:10:18.896 disabilities. 2016-08-06 13:10:23.881 Beth will be interviewing D.J. 2016-08-06 13:10:23.894 Beth will be interviewing D.J. 2016-08-06 13:10:26.923 Kurs, who is the illustrious 2016-08-06 13:10:26.937 Kurs, who is the illustrious 2016-08-06 13:10:31.923 creative director of Deaf West. 2016-08-06 13:10:31.936 creative director of Deaf West. 2016-08-06 13:10:35.921 If anyone has not seen the work 2016-08-06 13:10:35.935 If anyone has not seen the work 2016-08-06 13:10:38.924 Deaf West did, it was featured 2016-08-06 13:10:38.937 Deaf West did, it was featured 2016-08-06 13:10:41.922 on the Tonys. 2016-08-06 13:10:41.935 on the Tonys. 2016-08-06 13:10:46.926 They had a wonderful run of the 2016-08-06 13:10:46.928 revival on Broadway this past 2016-08-06 13:10:46.929 year. 2016-08-06 13:10:46.939 They had a wonderful run of the 2016-08-06 13:10:46.942 revival on Broadway this past 2016-08-06 13:10:46.943 year. 2016-08-06 13:10:51.007 If anyone has not seen it, you 2016-08-06 13:10:51.02 If anyone has not seen it, you 2016-08-06 13:10:57.05 two -- YouTube it 2016-08-06 13:10:57.063 two -- YouTube it 2016-08-06 13:10:58.049 tonight and 2016-08-06 13:10:58.051 check it out. 2016-08-06 13:10:58.063 tonight and 2016-08-06 13:10:58.065 check it out. 2016-08-06 13:11:01.059 It is truly amazing. 2016-08-06 13:11:01.073 It is truly amazing. 2016-08-06 13:11:03.062 I'm going to turn it over to 2016-08-06 13:11:03.075 I'm going to turn it over to 2016-08-06 13:11:08.268 Beth 2016-08-06 13:11:08.27 to take it from there. 2016-08-06 13:11:08.271 Thank you. 2016-08-06 13:11:08.282 Beth 2016-08-06 13:11:08.288 to take it from there. 2016-08-06 13:11:08.289 Thank you. 2016-08-06 13:11:11.307 Beth: Thank you so much. 2016-08-06 13:11:11.32 Beth: Thank you so much. 2016-08-06 13:11:15.384 I think the show was a bit of a 2016-08-06 13:11:15.398 I think the show was a bit of a 2016-08-06 13:11:17.389 springboard for a lot of these 2016-08-06 13:11:17.391 conversations. 2016-08-06 13:11:17.403 springboard for a lot of these 2016-08-06 13:11:17.404 conversations. 2016-08-06 13:11:21.431 Last fall when our new theater 2016-08-06 13:11:21.444 Last fall when our new theater 2016-08-06 13:11:24.422 director came on board, he 2016-08-06 13:11:24.435 director came on board, he 2016-08-06 13:11:28.422 claims I cornered him in the 2016-08-06 13:11:28.435 claims I cornered him in the 2016-08-06 13:11:30.423 elevator lobby and said, have 2016-08-06 13:11:30.436 elevator lobby and said, have 2016-08-06 13:11:34.432 you seen "Spring awakening"? 2016-08-06 13:11:34.445 you seen "Spring awakening"? 2016-08-06 13:11:36.43 We just started talking about 2016-08-06 13:11:36.444 We just started talking about 2016-08-06 13:11:39.466 what we can do as an agency to 2016-08-06 13:11:39.479 what we can do as an agency to 2016-08-06 13:11:43.463 foster the field of deaf 2016-08-06 13:11:43.465 theater. 2016-08-06 13:11:43.477 foster the field of deaf 2016-08-06 13:11:43.479 theater. 2016-08-06 13:11:47.56 To give a tiny bit of 2016-08-06 13:11:47.573 To give a tiny bit of 2016-08-06 13:11:49.632 background, I have been at the 2016-08-06 13:11:49.645 background, I have been at the 2016-08-06 13:11:51.64 N.E.A. for six years. 2016-08-06 13:11:51.654 N.E.A. for six years. 2016-08-06 13:11:53.64 Before that, I was at the Labor 2016-08-06 13:11:53.642 Department. 2016-08-06 13:11:53.654 Before that, I was at the Labor 2016-08-06 13:11:53.655 Department. 2016-08-06 13:11:57.673 I also have an arts background 2016-08-06 13:11:57.675 so this dovetailed nicely. 2016-08-06 13:11:57.686 I also have an arts background 2016-08-06 13:11:57.688 so this dovetailed nicely. 2016-08-06 13:12:01.764 I have always had interest in 2016-08-06 13:12:01.765 careers in the arts for people 2016-08-06 13:12:01.778 I have always had interest in 2016-08-06 13:12:01.78 careers in the arts for people 2016-08-06 13:12:03.802 with disabilities. 2016-08-06 13:12:03.816 with disabilities. 2016-08-06 13:12:07.856 My office's main purpose is to 2016-08-06 13:12:07.869 My office's main purpose is to 2016-08-06 13:12:09.911 promote accessibility from the 2016-08-06 13:12:09.924 promote accessibility from the 2016-08-06 13:12:10.923 audience and participant 2016-08-06 13:12:10.925 perspective. 2016-08-06 13:12:10.937 audience and participant 2016-08-06 13:12:10.938 perspective. 2016-08-06 13:12:12.967 I see those is going 2016-08-06 13:12:12.969 hand-in-hand. 2016-08-06 13:12:12.985 I see those is going 2016-08-06 13:12:12.987 hand-in-hand. 2016-08-06 13:12:17.067 We are the federal funding 2016-08-06 13:12:17.081 We are the federal funding 2016-08-06 13:12:21.053 agency that funds arts across 2016-08-06 13:12:21.055 the country in all 50 states and 2016-08-06 13:12:21.066 agency that funds arts across 2016-08-06 13:12:21.068 the country in all 50 states and 2016-08-06 13:12:24.053 territories, every congressional 2016-08-06 13:12:24.054 district. 2016-08-06 13:12:24.066 territories, every congressional 2016-08-06 13:12:24.068 district. 2016-08-06 13:12:28.1 I really work with all of my 2016-08-06 13:12:28.102 colleagues to make sure they 2016-08-06 13:12:28.114 I really work with all of my 2016-08-06 13:12:28.116 colleagues to make sure they 2016-08-06 13:12:32.214 understand the importance of 2016-08-06 13:12:32.228 understand the importance of 2016-08-06 13:12:33.216 inclusion of people with 2016-08-06 13:12:33.217 disabilities and support for 2016-08-06 13:12:33.229 inclusion of people with 2016-08-06 13:12:33.231 disabilities and support for 2016-08-06 13:12:34.213 these programs. 2016-08-06 13:12:34.227 these programs. 2016-08-06 13:12:36.217 I also wanted to point out there 2016-08-06 13:12:36.23 I also wanted to point out there 2016-08-06 13:12:39.214 are several N.E.A. grantees in 2016-08-06 13:12:39.215 the room. 2016-08-06 13:12:39.228 are several N.E.A. grantees in 2016-08-06 13:12:39.229 the room. 2016-08-06 13:12:43.216 Raise your hand if you work for 2016-08-06 13:12:43.218 an organization that has 2016-08-06 13:12:43.229 Raise your hand if you work for 2016-08-06 13:12:43.231 an organization that has 2016-08-06 13:12:44.216 received a grant. 2016-08-06 13:12:44.229 received a grant. 2016-08-06 13:12:50.258 I see 10 or 12 hands in the 2016-08-06 13:12:50.259 air, 2016-08-06 13:12:50.271 I see 10 or 12 hands in the 2016-08-06 13:12:50.272 air, 2016-08-06 13:12:51.26 including the Vermont studio 2016-08-06 13:12:51.273 including the Vermont studio 2016-08-06 13:12:56.291 Center 2016-08-06 13:12:56.293 , three artists we will 2016-08-06 13:12:56.305 Center 2016-08-06 13:12:56.306 , three artists we will 2016-08-06 13:12:58.302 hear from soon and the 2016-08-06 13:12:58.303 Shakespeare Festival. 2016-08-06 13:12:58.315 hear from soon and the 2016-08-06 13:12:58.317 Shakespeare Festival. 2016-08-06 13:13:01.35 And also Deaf West. 2016-08-06 13:13:01.363 And also Deaf West. 2016-08-06 13:13:03.351 I had to double check. 2016-08-06 13:13:03.365 I had to double check. 2016-08-06 13:13:06.351 We have funded Deaf West since 2016-08-06 13:13:06.364 We have funded Deaf West since 2016-08-06 13:13:07.351 1998. 2016-08-06 13:13:07.364 1998. 2016-08-06 13:13:12.383 Including "big 2016-08-06 13:13:12.397 Including "big 2016-08-06 13:13:13.382 River," the other 2016-08-06 13:13:13.384 one that went to Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:13:13.396 River," the other 2016-08-06 13:13:13.402 one that went to Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:13:20.474 Last October, D.J. spoke to our 2016-08-06 13:13:20.488 Last October, D.J. spoke to our 2016-08-06 13:13:23.55 national counter -- council on 2016-08-06 13:13:23.552 the arts. 2016-08-06 13:13:23.564 national counter -- council on 2016-08-06 13:13:23.565 the arts. 2016-08-06 13:13:26.607 We decided to hold a roundtable 2016-08-06 13:13:26.62 We decided to hold a roundtable 2016-08-06 13:13:28.633 on fostering opportunities for 2016-08-06 13:13:28.647 on fostering opportunities for 2016-08-06 13:13:30.636 deaf theater artists. 2016-08-06 13:13:30.65 deaf theater artists. 2016-08-06 13:13:35.757 We worked with 2016-08-06 13:13:35.758 D.J. and other 2016-08-06 13:13:35.77 We worked with 2016-08-06 13:13:35.771 D.J. and other 2016-08-06 13:13:36.763 people in the field to develop 2016-08-06 13:13:36.776 people in the field to develop 2016-08-06 13:13:37.755 the roundtable we held in New 2016-08-06 13:13:37.769 the roundtable we held in New 2016-08-06 13:13:39.757 York in January. 2016-08-06 13:13:39.77 York in January. 2016-08-06 13:13:40.756 We had a great discussion. 2016-08-06 13:13:40.77 We had a great discussion. 2016-08-06 13:13:44.761 This is the report they came out 2016-08-06 13:13:44.762 of it. 2016-08-06 13:13:44.764 It is available on our website. 2016-08-06 13:13:44.774 This is the report they came out 2016-08-06 13:13:44.775 of it. 2016-08-06 13:13:44.777 It is available on our website. 2016-08-06 13:13:48.759 I encourage you to check that 2016-08-06 13:13:48.76 out. 2016-08-06 13:13:48.772 I encourage you to check that 2016-08-06 13:13:48.773 out. 2016-08-06 13:13:49.759 It developed a number of 2016-08-06 13:13:49.762 fragmentation for the field. 2016-08-06 13:13:49.772 It developed a number of 2016-08-06 13:13:49.774 fragmentation for the field. 2016-08-06 13:13:51.759 We hope to move forward many of 2016-08-06 13:13:51.76 those. 2016-08-06 13:13:51.772 We hope to move forward many of 2016-08-06 13:13:51.773 those. 2016-08-06 13:13:54.8 I am trying to make sure I'm 2016-08-06 13:13:54.814 I am trying to make sure I'm 2016-08-06 13:13:57.805 capturing all my notes before we 2016-08-06 13:13:57.807 move into our conversation. 2016-08-06 13:13:57.819 capturing all my notes before we 2016-08-06 13:13:57.82 move into our conversation. 2016-08-06 13:14:01.799 We think this is a pivotal 2016-08-06 13:14:01.813 We think this is a pivotal 2016-08-06 13:14:05.852 moment for the deaf community 2016-08-06 13:14:05.854 because there has been a lot of 2016-08-06 13:14:05.865 moment for the deaf community 2016-08-06 13:14:05.867 because there has been a lot of 2016-08-06 13:14:07.898 high-profile lately in many 2016-08-06 13:14:07.912 high-profile lately in many 2016-08-06 13:14:08.899 different sectors. 2016-08-06 13:14:08.913 different sectors. 2016-08-06 13:14:10.924 I am excited to see where Deaf 2016-08-06 13:14:10.938 I am excited to see where Deaf 2016-08-06 13:14:14.928 West is going from here, what 2016-08-06 13:14:14.939 West is going from here, what 2016-08-06 13:14:16.925 D.J. has been doing, and so I 2016-08-06 13:14:16.927 will start our conversation. 2016-08-06 13:14:16.938 D.J. has been doing, and so I 2016-08-06 13:14:16.94 will start our conversation. 2016-08-06 13:14:20.967 I would love to hear you talk 2016-08-06 13:14:20.98 I would love to hear you talk 2016-08-06 13:14:22.967 about how you got into theater 2016-08-06 13:14:22.98 about how you got into theater 2016-08-06 13:14:23.965 and how you arrived at Deaf West 2016-08-06 13:14:23.966 . 2016-08-06 13:14:23.979 and how you arrived at Deaf West 2016-08-06 13:14:23.98 . 2016-08-06 13:14:33.965 D.J.: I was lucky enough to go 2016-08-06 13:14:33.979 D.J.: I was lucky enough to go 2016-08-06 13:14:36.966 up -- grow up in Riverside. 2016-08-06 13:14:36.98 up -- grow up in Riverside. 2016-08-06 13:14:39.965 My parents had taken me to a 2016-08-06 13:14:39.979 My parents had taken me to a 2016-08-06 13:14:43.009 Deaf West show, several of their 2016-08-06 13:14:43.011 shows. 2016-08-06 13:14:43.023 Deaf West show, several of their 2016-08-06 13:14:43.024 shows. 2016-08-06 13:14:46.014 That theater became something in 2016-08-06 13:14:46.016 my heart that became part of me. 2016-08-06 13:14:46.027 That theater became something in 2016-08-06 13:14:46.029 my heart that became part of me. 2016-08-06 13:14:51.101 After I graduated 2016-08-06 13:14:51.102 , I moved down 2016-08-06 13:14:51.114 After I graduated 2016-08-06 13:14:51.115 , I moved down 2016-08-06 13:14:55.109 there because I thought they had 2016-08-06 13:14:55.111 the best artistic community of 2016-08-06 13:14:55.122 there because I thought they had 2016-08-06 13:14:55.124 the best artistic community of 2016-08-06 13:14:56.15 deaf people. 2016-08-06 13:14:56.163 deaf people. 2016-08-06 13:14:57.153 I wanted to be part of that 2016-08-06 13:14:57.166 I wanted to be part of that 2016-08-06 13:14:58.15 community. 2016-08-06 13:14:58.163 community. 2016-08-06 13:15:01.15 The biggest reason that 2016-08-06 13:15:01.151 community is there is because 2016-08-06 13:15:01.163 The biggest reason that 2016-08-06 13:15:01.165 community is there is because 2016-08-06 13:15:04.148 the Deaf West has been there. 2016-08-06 13:15:04.162 the Deaf West has been there. 2016-08-06 13:15:06.15 That is how I slowly became 2016-08-06 13:15:06.163 That is how I slowly became 2016-08-06 13:15:09.153 involved and started to scrape 2016-08-06 13:15:09.166 involved and started to scrape 2016-08-06 13:15:13.176 by with jobs cleaning floors, 2016-08-06 13:15:13.178 moved up to production and 2016-08-06 13:15:13.189 by with jobs cleaning floors, 2016-08-06 13:15:13.195 moved up to production and 2016-08-06 13:15:15.221 writing, and worked my way up. 2016-08-06 13:15:15.234 writing, and worked my way up. 2016-08-06 13:15:19.218 I became the artistic director 2016-08-06 13:15:19.231 I became the artistic director 2016-08-06 13:15:24.259 at the 2016-08-06 13:15:24.272 at the 2016-08-06 13:15:26.258 education Ed Warner 2016-08-06 13:15:26.259 retreat. 2016-08-06 13:15:26.271 education Ed Warner 2016-08-06 13:15:26.273 retreat. 2016-08-06 13:15:29.26 I was there three and a half 2016-08-06 13:15:29.262 years ago. 2016-08-06 13:15:29.273 I was there three and a half 2016-08-06 13:15:29.274 years ago. 2016-08-06 13:15:31.26 They had given me that position. 2016-08-06 13:15:31.273 They had given me that position. 2016-08-06 13:15:33.257 Beth: Great. 2016-08-06 13:15:33.271 Beth: Great. 2016-08-06 13:15:40.3 One thing Deaf West 2016-08-06 13:15:40.313 One thing Deaf West 2016-08-06 13:15:41.3 theater did 2016-08-06 13:15:41.313 theater did 2016-08-06 13:15:45.349 in 1991, it was our 25th 2016-08-06 13:15:45.363 in 1991, it was our 25th 2016-08-06 13:15:46.4 anniversary this year. 2016-08-06 13:15:46.414 anniversary this year. 2016-08-06 13:15:48.398 >> It has a strong history. 2016-08-06 13:15:48.412 >> It has a strong history. 2016-08-06 13:15:52.4 I have always thought of 2016-08-06 13:15:52.402 Washington, D.C., as having a 2016-08-06 13:15:52.413 I have always thought of 2016-08-06 13:15:52.415 Washington, D.C., as having a 2016-08-06 13:15:54.423 strong deaf community. 2016-08-06 13:15:54.437 strong deaf community. 2016-08-06 13:15:58.51 New York has a lot of people 2016-08-06 13:15:58.512 because it has a wonderful arts 2016-08-06 13:15:58.524 New York has a lot of people 2016-08-06 13:15:58.526 because it has a wonderful arts 2016-08-06 13:16:01.55 community and robust cultural 2016-08-06 13:16:01.551 sector. 2016-08-06 13:16:01.563 community and robust cultural 2016-08-06 13:16:01.565 sector. 2016-08-06 13:16:03.6 Even Rochester, New York. 2016-08-06 13:16:03.614 Even Rochester, New York. 2016-08-06 13:16:05.604 It is great to hear that Los 2016-08-06 13:16:05.618 It is great to hear that Los 2016-08-06 13:16:08.655 Angeles also has a deaf arts 2016-08-06 13:16:08.656 community. 2016-08-06 13:16:08.668 Angeles also has a deaf arts 2016-08-06 13:16:08.67 community. 2016-08-06 13:16:14.648 Talk about 2016-08-06 13:16:14.661 Talk about 2016-08-06 13:16:17.65 how Deaf West's 2016-08-06 13:16:17.651 approach to theater production. 2016-08-06 13:16:17.663 how Deaf West's 2016-08-06 13:16:17.665 approach to theater production. 2016-08-06 13:16:20.65 What the process is from 2016-08-06 13:16:20.663 What the process is from 2016-08-06 13:16:22.675 conception to performance and 2016-08-06 13:16:22.688 conception to performance and 2016-08-06 13:16:23.677 how deaf artists are 2016-08-06 13:16:23.69 how deaf artists are 2016-08-06 13:16:25.677 incorporated with hearing 2016-08-06 13:16:25.69 incorporated with hearing 2016-08-06 13:16:26.674 artists. 2016-08-06 13:16:26.687 artists. 2016-08-06 13:16:32.674 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:16:32.687 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:16:33.677 Our mission for the 2016-08-06 13:16:33.69 Our mission for the 2016-08-06 13:16:36.674 theater company is to bridge 2016-08-06 13:16:36.687 theater company is to bridge 2016-08-06 13:16:37.677 deaf and hearing communities and 2016-08-06 13:16:37.679 bring them together through 2016-08-06 13:16:37.68 theater. 2016-08-06 13:16:37.691 deaf and hearing communities and 2016-08-06 13:16:37.693 bring them together through 2016-08-06 13:16:37.694 theater. 2016-08-06 13:16:41.678 But we have got to look at our 2016-08-06 13:16:41.691 But we have got to look at our 2016-08-06 13:16:44.717 death audience members first -- 2016-08-06 13:16:44.73 death audience members first -- 2016-08-06 13:16:47.73 deaf audience members first, 2016-08-06 13:16:47.744 deaf audience members first, 2016-08-06 13:16:49.767 what is most important to them 2016-08-06 13:16:49.769 and accessibility to the 2016-08-06 13:16:49.78 what is most important to them 2016-08-06 13:16:49.782 and accessibility to the 2016-08-06 13:16:52.771 language and sign language and 2016-08-06 13:16:52.784 language and sign language and 2016-08-06 13:16:54.852 making sure everything in our 2016-08-06 13:16:54.866 making sure everything in our 2016-08-06 13:16:56.851 show is signed or captioned and 2016-08-06 13:16:56.853 accessible. 2016-08-06 13:16:56.865 show is signed or captioned and 2016-08-06 13:16:56.866 accessible. 2016-08-06 13:16:59.907 From there, we can figure out 2016-08-06 13:16:59.908 the speaking parts. 2016-08-06 13:16:59.921 From there, we can figure out 2016-08-06 13:16:59.923 the speaking parts. 2016-08-06 13:17:05.023 Our mission is to 2016-08-06 13:17:05.036 Our mission is to 2016-08-06 13:17:06.02 set that up 2016-08-06 13:17:06.021 and lead by example. 2016-08-06 13:17:06.033 set that up 2016-08-06 13:17:06.035 and lead by example. 2016-08-06 13:17:12.183 Welcoming hearing and deaf 2016-08-06 13:17:12.197 Welcoming hearing and deaf 2016-08-06 13:17:15.271 patrons to watch the same show 2016-08-06 13:17:15.273 but through different lenses. 2016-08-06 13:17:15.284 patrons to watch the same show 2016-08-06 13:17:15.286 but through different lenses. 2016-08-06 13:17:19.367 You cannot just say the hearing 2016-08-06 13:17:19.38 You cannot just say the hearing 2016-08-06 13:17:21.4 and deaf people are having the 2016-08-06 13:17:21.414 and deaf people are having the 2016-08-06 13:17:22.427 same experience and feeling the 2016-08-06 13:17:22.44 same experience and feeling the 2016-08-06 13:17:24.442 same ways in each show. 2016-08-06 13:17:24.46 same ways in each show. 2016-08-06 13:17:28.559 But at the same time, they are 2016-08-06 13:17:28.574 But at the same time, they are 2016-08-06 13:17:31.656 having access to the same show 2016-08-06 13:17:31.67 having access to the same show 2016-08-06 13:17:32.678 and can have the same 2016-08-06 13:17:32.681 discussions. 2016-08-06 13:17:32.689 and can have the same 2016-08-06 13:17:32.69 discussions. 2016-08-06 13:17:34.678 We think that is a beautiful 2016-08-06 13:17:34.679 thing and should be happening 2016-08-06 13:17:34.681 more often. 2016-08-06 13:17:34.691 We think that is a beautiful 2016-08-06 13:17:34.693 thing and should be happening 2016-08-06 13:17:34.694 more often. 2016-08-06 13:17:41.719 Also, we want to 2016-08-06 13:17:41.732 Also, we want to 2016-08-06 13:17:42.762 emphasize that 2016-08-06 13:17:42.776 emphasize that 2016-08-06 13:17:45.761 the deaf audience members are 2016-08-06 13:17:45.763 the most important part of our 2016-08-06 13:17:45.773 the deaf audience members are 2016-08-06 13:17:45.775 the most important part of our 2016-08-06 13:17:46.759 company. 2016-08-06 13:17:46.772 company. 2016-08-06 13:17:48.763 The deaf people give most of the 2016-08-06 13:17:48.777 The deaf people give most of the 2016-08-06 13:17:50.759 funding to our theater. 2016-08-06 13:17:50.773 funding to our theater. 2016-08-06 13:17:53.76 Because of that, we want more 2016-08-06 13:17:53.762 artists. 2016-08-06 13:17:53.774 Because of that, we want more 2016-08-06 13:17:53.775 artists. 2016-08-06 13:17:55.764 We want more theater. 2016-08-06 13:17:55.777 We want more theater. 2016-08-06 13:17:57.772 We want them to be invested in 2016-08-06 13:17:57.785 We want them to be invested in 2016-08-06 13:18:00.852 our theater as opposed to 2016-08-06 13:18:00.865 our theater as opposed to 2016-08-06 13:18:02.9 hearing individuals who may be 2016-08-06 13:18:02.914 hearing individuals who may be 2016-08-06 13:18:05.932 fascinated by our theater and 2016-08-06 13:18:05.933 then they leave after five 2016-08-06 13:18:05.934 years. 2016-08-06 13:18:05.946 fascinated by our theater and 2016-08-06 13:18:05.948 then they leave after five 2016-08-06 13:18:05.949 years. 2016-08-06 13:18:10.061 The deaf audience members and 2016-08-06 13:18:10.075 The deaf audience members and 2016-08-06 13:18:14.107 patrons know that we are here to 2016-08-06 13:18:14.12 patrons know that we are here to 2016-08-06 13:18:15.15 stay and they want us to 2016-08-06 13:18:15.152 continue and do more of what we 2016-08-06 13:18:15.153 are doing. 2016-08-06 13:18:15.164 stay and they want us to 2016-08-06 13:18:15.166 continue and do more of what we 2016-08-06 13:18:15.167 are doing. 2016-08-06 13:18:20.175 Beth: 2016-08-06 13:18:20.177 How is sign language or 2016-08-06 13:18:20.178 captioning incorporated into the 2016-08-06 13:18:20.189 Beth: 2016-08-06 13:18:20.19 How is sign language or 2016-08-06 13:18:20.195 captioning incorporated into the 2016-08-06 13:18:23.177 shows so both hearing audiences 2016-08-06 13:18:23.191 shows so both hearing audiences 2016-08-06 13:18:25.176 and deaf audiences are able to 2016-08-06 13:18:25.189 and deaf audiences are able to 2016-08-06 13:18:27.175 access it? 2016-08-06 13:18:27.188 access it? 2016-08-06 13:18:29.19 Describe that a little bit. 2016-08-06 13:18:29.203 Describe that a little bit. 2016-08-06 13:18:35.219 D.J.: Well, we are 2016-08-06 13:18:35.22 a bilingual 2016-08-06 13:18:35.221 approach to theater. 2016-08-06 13:18:35.232 D.J.: Well, we are 2016-08-06 13:18:35.233 a bilingual 2016-08-06 13:18:35.235 approach to theater. 2016-08-06 13:18:38.266 We put Simon which front and 2016-08-06 13:18:38.267 center. 2016-08-06 13:18:38.279 We put Simon which front and 2016-08-06 13:18:38.28 center. 2016-08-06 13:18:44.353 Sometimes we will have a 2016-08-06 13:18:44.354 voice 2016-08-06 13:18:44.366 Sometimes we will have a 2016-08-06 13:18:44.367 voice 2016-08-06 13:18:45.401 actor behind them during the 2016-08-06 13:18:45.402 show. 2016-08-06 13:18:45.415 actor behind them during the 2016-08-06 13:18:45.416 show. 2016-08-06 13:18:48.434 There is a diverse way of 2016-08-06 13:18:48.435 approaching that. 2016-08-06 13:18:48.447 There is a diverse way of 2016-08-06 13:18:48.449 approaching that. 2016-08-06 13:18:52.515 There is no rule for how we 2016-08-06 13:18:52.516 might do that. 2016-08-06 13:18:52.528 There is no rule for how we 2016-08-06 13:18:52.529 might do that. 2016-08-06 13:18:53.517 We give our directors freedom to 2016-08-06 13:18:53.53 We give our directors freedom to 2016-08-06 13:18:54.524 play around. 2016-08-06 13:18:54.537 play around. 2016-08-06 13:18:58.554 We don't dictate. 2016-08-06 13:18:58.567 We don't dictate. 2016-08-06 13:18:59.56 We tell them you can try one of 2016-08-06 13:18:59.561 several things. 2016-08-06 13:18:59.574 We tell them you can try one of 2016-08-06 13:18:59.576 several things. 2016-08-06 13:19:03.676 But they also know that there 2016-08-06 13:19:03.678 are limitations. 2016-08-06 13:19:03.69 But they also know that there 2016-08-06 13:19:03.691 are limitations. 2016-08-06 13:19:07.68 For example, sign language, it 2016-08-06 13:19:07.683 cannot have your back to the 2016-08-06 13:19:07.684 audience. 2016-08-06 13:19:07.693 For example, sign language, it 2016-08-06 13:19:07.696 cannot have your back to the 2016-08-06 13:19:07.697 audience. 2016-08-06 13:19:10.678 You have to make sure you are 2016-08-06 13:19:10.691 You have to make sure you are 2016-08-06 13:19:11.719 front and center and signing 2016-08-06 13:19:11.732 front and center and signing 2016-08-06 13:19:12.719 visibly and clearly. 2016-08-06 13:19:12.732 visibly and clearly. 2016-08-06 13:19:14.719 That is a big part of our 2016-08-06 13:19:14.72 process. 2016-08-06 13:19:14.732 That is a big part of our 2016-08-06 13:19:14.738 process. 2016-08-06 13:19:20.719 We like to play 2016-08-06 13:19:20.72 around with it 2016-08-06 13:19:20.732 We like to play 2016-08-06 13:19:20.733 around with it 2016-08-06 13:19:21.72 during rehearsals and see what 2016-08-06 13:19:21.727 works and what does not work. 2016-08-06 13:19:21.734 during rehearsals and see what 2016-08-06 13:19:21.735 works and what does not work. 2016-08-06 13:19:23.724 If we feel this is becoming a 2016-08-06 13:19:23.738 If we feel this is becoming a 2016-08-06 13:19:28.805 problem or it is restraining us 2016-08-06 13:19:28.806 , 2016-08-06 13:19:28.808 we figure that part out later. 2016-08-06 13:19:28.818 problem or it is restraining us 2016-08-06 13:19:28.819 , 2016-08-06 13:19:28.821 we figure that part out later. 2016-08-06 13:19:33.847 We 2016-08-06 13:19:33.86 We 2016-08-06 13:19:36.849 actually have a huge process. 2016-08-06 13:19:36.862 actually have a huge process. 2016-08-06 13:19:38.899 Right now, I'm speaking through 2016-08-06 13:19:38.912 Right now, I'm speaking through 2016-08-06 13:19:39.898 an interpreter. 2016-08-06 13:19:39.911 an interpreter. 2016-08-06 13:19:41.9 The interpreter I just met today 2016-08-06 13:19:41.902 for the first time. 2016-08-06 13:19:41.914 The interpreter I just met today 2016-08-06 13:19:41.916 for the first time. 2016-08-06 13:19:44.928 That kind of information and how 2016-08-06 13:19:44.941 That kind of information and how 2016-08-06 13:19:47.927 you express those features -- it 2016-08-06 13:19:47.941 you express those features -- it 2016-08-06 13:19:48.929 is a filter you are getting 2016-08-06 13:19:48.931 filtered through. 2016-08-06 13:19:48.943 is a filter you are getting 2016-08-06 13:19:48.944 filtered through. 2016-08-06 13:19:50.929 It is like any language. 2016-08-06 13:19:50.943 It is like any language. 2016-08-06 13:19:52.928 We have a beautiful language. 2016-08-06 13:19:52.941 We have a beautiful language. 2016-08-06 13:19:54.97 We play with that language. 2016-08-06 13:19:54.983 We play with that language. 2016-08-06 13:19:57.009 It is mobile. 2016-08-06 13:19:57.023 It is mobile. 2016-08-06 13:20:00.018 The boundaries are constantly 2016-08-06 13:20:00.02 being broken and tested. 2016-08-06 13:20:00.032 The boundaries are constantly 2016-08-06 13:20:00.034 being broken and tested. 2016-08-06 13:20:02.065 We wish we had a way to bring 2016-08-06 13:20:02.079 We wish we had a way to bring 2016-08-06 13:20:04.062 that to the spoken language. 2016-08-06 13:20:04.076 that to the spoken language. 2016-08-06 13:20:08.151 But at the same time, the 2016-08-06 13:20:08.165 But at the same time, the 2016-08-06 13:20:10.156 audience members who are deaf 2016-08-06 13:20:10.158 say we wish they would have said 2016-08-06 13:20:10.17 audience members who are deaf 2016-08-06 13:20:10.172 say we wish they would have said 2016-08-06 13:20:11.16 this or that. 2016-08-06 13:20:11.176 this or that. 2016-08-06 13:20:14.267 They always have that disconnect 2016-08-06 13:20:14.28 They always have that disconnect 2016-08-06 13:20:16.267 between the languages that 2016-08-06 13:20:16.272 happens. 2016-08-06 13:20:16.281 between the languages that 2016-08-06 13:20:16.282 happens. 2016-08-06 13:20:19.359 Sometimes they get that 2016-08-06 13:20:19.361 connection networks. 2016-08-06 13:20:19.373 Sometimes they get that 2016-08-06 13:20:19.374 connection networks. 2016-08-06 13:20:25.472 If it happened all the way that 2016-08-06 13:20:25.474 the mesh all the time that we, 2016-08-06 13:20:25.476 it would be boring. 2016-08-06 13:20:25.486 If it happened all the way that 2016-08-06 13:20:25.488 the mesh all the time that we, 2016-08-06 13:20:25.489 it would be boring. 2016-08-06 13:20:27.511 We like to play with different 2016-08-06 13:20:27.512 things. 2016-08-06 13:20:27.525 We like to play with different 2016-08-06 13:20:27.526 things. 2016-08-06 13:20:29.512 Does that answer your question? 2016-08-06 13:20:29.525 Does that answer your question? 2016-08-06 13:20:32.553 Beth: I am interested in that 2016-08-06 13:20:32.567 Beth: I am interested in that 2016-08-06 13:20:33.55 process. 2016-08-06 13:20:33.564 process. 2016-08-06 13:20:38.659 Is it a longer 2016-08-06 13:20:38.673 Is it a longer 2016-08-06 13:20:39.68 process in the 2016-08-06 13:20:39.693 process in the 2016-08-06 13:20:41.678 play development and rehearsal 2016-08-06 13:20:41.68 process? 2016-08-06 13:20:41.692 play development and rehearsal 2016-08-06 13:20:41.693 process? 2016-08-06 13:20:45.676 Is it lengthened? 2016-08-06 13:20:45.69 Is it lengthened? 2016-08-06 13:20:49.676 Is it also enriched in a way 2016-08-06 13:20:49.689 Is it also enriched in a way 2016-08-06 13:20:50.72 other productions are not? 2016-08-06 13:20:50.733 other productions are not? 2016-08-06 13:20:55.718 D.J.: We actually have a team of 2016-08-06 13:20:55.732 D.J.: We actually have a team of 2016-08-06 13:20:57.723 ASL coaches for each of the 2016-08-06 13:20:57.736 ASL coaches for each of the 2016-08-06 13:20:58.76 actors. 2016-08-06 13:20:58.774 actors. 2016-08-06 13:21:01.762 They work and rehearse together 2016-08-06 13:21:01.763 and make sure they are signing 2016-08-06 13:21:01.776 They work and rehearse together 2016-08-06 13:21:01.778 and make sure they are signing 2016-08-06 13:21:03.761 clearly. 2016-08-06 13:21:03.774 clearly. 2016-08-06 13:21:06.76 From the text how that gets 2016-08-06 13:21:06.774 From the text how that gets 2016-08-06 13:21:08.766 translated into sign and making 2016-08-06 13:21:08.768 sure the translation is a 2016-08-06 13:21:08.78 translated into sign and making 2016-08-06 13:21:08.781 sure the translation is a 2016-08-06 13:21:10.761 appropriate and based on the 2016-08-06 13:21:10.775 appropriate and based on the 2016-08-06 13:21:15.761 rider's -- writer's intent. 2016-08-06 13:21:15.775 rider's -- writer's intent. 2016-08-06 13:21:16.776 There are many different levels 2016-08-06 13:21:16.777 to that. 2016-08-06 13:21:16.789 There are many different levels 2016-08-06 13:21:16.791 to that. 2016-08-06 13:21:18.851 It is a long process and we take 2016-08-06 13:21:18.864 It is a long process and we take 2016-08-06 13:21:22.896 a week focusing on reading the 2016-08-06 13:21:22.91 a week focusing on reading the 2016-08-06 13:21:24.899 script and translating into sign 2016-08-06 13:21:24.9 language. 2016-08-06 13:21:24.912 script and translating into sign 2016-08-06 13:21:24.913 language. 2016-08-06 13:21:27.898 We have to teach the hearing 2016-08-06 13:21:27.899 actors sign language along the 2016-08-06 13:21:27.9 way. 2016-08-06 13:21:27.911 We have to teach the hearing 2016-08-06 13:21:27.913 actors sign language along the 2016-08-06 13:21:27.914 way. 2016-08-06 13:21:29.898 They have got to rehearse 2016-08-06 13:21:29.899 themselves. 2016-08-06 13:21:29.911 They have got to rehearse 2016-08-06 13:21:29.913 themselves. 2016-08-06 13:21:33.933 It is fascinating just how fast 2016-08-06 13:21:33.947 It is fascinating just how fast 2016-08-06 13:21:34.937 they learn it. 2016-08-06 13:21:34.95 they learn it. 2016-08-06 13:21:39.968 It 2016-08-06 13:21:39.982 It 2016-08-06 13:21:41.97 requires a commitment and 2016-08-06 13:21:41.983 requires a commitment and 2016-08-06 13:21:42.97 understanding and motivation. 2016-08-06 13:21:42.984 understanding and motivation. 2016-08-06 13:21:44.969 By the end of the show, the 2016-08-06 13:21:44.983 By the end of the show, the 2016-08-06 13:21:48.971 hearing are going along well 2016-08-06 13:21:48.974 enough to converse with the 2016-08-06 13:21:48.984 hearing are going along well 2016-08-06 13:21:48.986 enough to converse with the 2016-08-06 13:21:49.971 actors that are deaf. 2016-08-06 13:21:49.984 actors that are deaf. 2016-08-06 13:21:52.018 They are altogether. 2016-08-06 13:21:52.02 It is a beautiful thing. 2016-08-06 13:21:52.031 They are altogether. 2016-08-06 13:21:52.033 It is a beautiful thing. 2016-08-06 13:21:56.055 Beth: I was able to see a little 2016-08-06 13:21:56.068 Beth: I was able to see a little 2016-08-06 13:21:57.055 bit of that in action. 2016-08-06 13:21:57.068 bit of that in action. 2016-08-06 13:22:01.072 There were a lot of videos 2016-08-06 13:22:01.086 There were a lot of videos 2016-08-06 13:22:03.101 posted by the actors. 2016-08-06 13:22:03.114 posted by the actors. 2016-08-06 13:22:05.111 You can see the camaraderie 2016-08-06 13:22:05.125 You can see the camaraderie 2016-08-06 13:22:07.149 behind stage among the cast 2016-08-06 13:22:07.15 members. 2016-08-06 13:22:07.162 behind stage among the cast 2016-08-06 13:22:07.164 members. 2016-08-06 13:22:10.149 In the interviews they did with 2016-08-06 13:22:10.163 In the interviews they did with 2016-08-06 13:22:13.147 the press, you could see the 2016-08-06 13:22:13.161 the press, you could see the 2016-08-06 13:22:15.149 people that were double cast in 2016-08-06 13:22:15.162 people that were double cast in 2016-08-06 13:22:17.149 the same role, the hearing and 2016-08-06 13:22:17.15 deaf actors. 2016-08-06 13:22:17.162 the same role, the hearing and 2016-08-06 13:22:17.163 deaf actors. 2016-08-06 13:22:21.152 They seemed to have a real bond 2016-08-06 13:22:21.153 because they are playing the 2016-08-06 13:22:21.154 same character. 2016-08-06 13:22:21.166 They seemed to have a real bond 2016-08-06 13:22:21.168 because they are playing the 2016-08-06 13:22:21.169 same character. 2016-08-06 13:22:26.178 Does that enrich the 2016-08-06 13:22:26.179 experience 2016-08-06 13:22:26.191 Does that enrich the 2016-08-06 13:22:26.193 experience 2016-08-06 13:22:28.177 or product you are trying to 2016-08-06 13:22:28.19 or product you are trying to 2016-08-06 13:22:30.179 achieve, the interaction between 2016-08-06 13:22:30.193 achieve, the interaction between 2016-08-06 13:22:31.179 them? 2016-08-06 13:22:31.192 them? 2016-08-06 13:22:33.18 Do you ever have actors that 2016-08-06 13:22:33.194 Do you ever have actors that 2016-08-06 13:22:35.177 don't get along in those pairs? 2016-08-06 13:22:35.191 don't get along in those pairs? 2016-08-06 13:22:37.179 You don't have to name names. 2016-08-06 13:22:37.193 You don't have to name names. 2016-08-06 13:22:38.177 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 13:22:38.191 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 13:22:40.222 D.J.: Definitely. 2016-08-06 13:22:40.235 D.J.: Definitely. 2016-08-06 13:22:43.226 You always have one or two bad 2016-08-06 13:22:43.227 ones. 2016-08-06 13:22:43.228 I'm kidding. 2016-08-06 13:22:43.239 You always have one or two bad 2016-08-06 13:22:43.24 ones. 2016-08-06 13:22:43.241 I'm kidding. 2016-08-06 13:22:45.266 But yes, each person has their 2016-08-06 13:22:45.279 But yes, each person has their 2016-08-06 13:22:48.302 own -- everybody brings 2016-08-06 13:22:48.303 something else. 2016-08-06 13:22:48.315 own -- everybody brings 2016-08-06 13:22:48.317 something else. 2016-08-06 13:22:52.303 Some pick it up overnight. 2016-08-06 13:22:52.305 Some struggle. 2016-08-06 13:22:52.317 Some pick it up overnight. 2016-08-06 13:22:52.318 Some struggle. 2016-08-06 13:22:53.306 They have a hard time with it. 2016-08-06 13:22:53.319 They have a hard time with it. 2016-08-06 13:22:55.304 It is hard for hearing people to 2016-08-06 13:22:55.306 know how they feel. 2016-08-06 13:22:55.318 It is hard for hearing people to 2016-08-06 13:22:55.319 know how they feel. 2016-08-06 13:22:59.306 Sometimes you have to speak & at 2016-08-06 13:22:59.307 the same time. 2016-08-06 13:22:59.319 Sometimes you have to speak & at 2016-08-06 13:22:59.324 the same time. 2016-08-06 13:23:02.398 That is a challenge for 2016-08-06 13:23:02.4 everyone, even me as a deaf 2016-08-06 13:23:02.401 person. 2016-08-06 13:23:02.411 That is a challenge for 2016-08-06 13:23:02.413 everyone, even me as a deaf 2016-08-06 13:23:02.414 person. 2016-08-06 13:23:06.471 It is a challenge for all of 2016-08-06 13:23:06.473 them as well. 2016-08-06 13:23:06.485 It is a challenge for all of 2016-08-06 13:23:06.486 them as well. 2016-08-06 13:23:10.518 I think number one, we have to 2016-08-06 13:23:10.531 I think number one, we have to 2016-08-06 13:23:13.514 recognize that everything is 2016-08-06 13:23:13.528 recognize that everything is 2016-08-06 13:23:16.553 done in service of the play, of 2016-08-06 13:23:16.566 done in service of the play, of 2016-08-06 13:23:18.554 the production, and in service 2016-08-06 13:23:18.556 of the story being told. 2016-08-06 13:23:18.568 the production, and in service 2016-08-06 13:23:18.569 of the story being told. 2016-08-06 13:23:20.555 Everything else become 2016-08-06 13:23:20.556 secondary. 2016-08-06 13:23:20.568 Everything else become 2016-08-06 13:23:20.57 secondary. 2016-08-06 13:23:24.555 You have to look at what the 2016-08-06 13:23:24.557 experience should be to make 2016-08-06 13:23:24.568 You have to look at what the 2016-08-06 13:23:24.57 experience should be to make 2016-08-06 13:23:25.555 sure it is entertainment for the 2016-08-06 13:23:25.556 audience. 2016-08-06 13:23:25.568 sure it is entertainment for the 2016-08-06 13:23:25.569 audience. 2016-08-06 13:23:28.555 That is our responsibility to 2016-08-06 13:23:28.568 That is our responsibility to 2016-08-06 13:23:30.555 our patrons and audience, 2016-08-06 13:23:30.557 instead of focusing on the 2016-08-06 13:23:30.568 our patrons and audience, 2016-08-06 13:23:30.57 instead of focusing on the 2016-08-06 13:23:33.557 actors or all of the stuff 2016-08-06 13:23:33.558 behind the scenes. 2016-08-06 13:23:33.57 actors or all of the stuff 2016-08-06 13:23:33.572 behind the scenes. 2016-08-06 13:23:36.599 There is a balance we have to 2016-08-06 13:23:36.613 There is a balance we have to 2016-08-06 13:23:37.655 keep your we have to keep that 2016-08-06 13:23:37.657 in perspective. 2016-08-06 13:23:37.668 keep your we have to keep that 2016-08-06 13:23:37.67 in perspective. 2016-08-06 13:23:41.648 -- there is a balance we have to 2016-08-06 13:23:41.661 -- there is a balance we have to 2016-08-06 13:23:42.648 keep. 2016-08-06 13:23:42.662 keep. 2016-08-06 13:23:43.653 We have to keep that in 2016-08-06 13:23:43.654 perspective. 2016-08-06 13:23:43.666 We have to keep that in 2016-08-06 13:23:43.668 perspective. 2016-08-06 13:23:48.698 Because we have that limitation 2016-08-06 13:23:48.714 Because we have that limitation 2016-08-06 13:23:51.679 of sign language, we are 2016-08-06 13:23:51.693 of sign language, we are 2016-08-06 13:23:53.68 actually making art that is 2016-08-06 13:23:53.694 actually making art that is 2016-08-06 13:23:54.679 something new and different. 2016-08-06 13:23:54.693 something new and different. 2016-08-06 13:23:59.72 The hearing 2016-08-06 13:23:59.722 actors through that 2016-08-06 13:23:59.734 The hearing 2016-08-06 13:23:59.735 actors through that 2016-08-06 13:24:03.831 experience, they love it. 2016-08-06 13:24:03.833 They fall in love with it. 2016-08-06 13:24:03.845 experience, they love it. 2016-08-06 13:24:03.847 They fall in love with it. 2016-08-06 13:24:05.763 They keep coming back. 2016-08-06 13:24:05.777 They keep coming back. 2016-08-06 13:24:07.806 One of our actors who is from 2016-08-06 13:24:07.82 One of our actors who is from 2016-08-06 13:24:11.765 Broadway mentioned they had been 2016-08-06 13:24:11.779 Broadway mentioned they had been 2016-08-06 13:24:12.767 in many Broadway shows, and it 2016-08-06 13:24:12.78 in many Broadway shows, and it 2016-08-06 13:24:16.804 was the first time he finally 2016-08-06 13:24:16.805 knew what to do with his hands. 2016-08-06 13:24:16.817 was the first time he finally 2016-08-06 13:24:16.819 knew what to do with his hands. 2016-08-06 13:24:18.805 That was kind of interesting to 2016-08-06 13:24:18.806 me. 2016-08-06 13:24:18.818 That was kind of interesting to 2016-08-06 13:24:18.819 me. 2016-08-06 13:24:22.803 Instead of the issue of jazz 2016-08-06 13:24:22.805 hands, you know. 2016-08-06 13:24:22.816 Instead of the issue of jazz 2016-08-06 13:24:22.818 hands, you know. 2016-08-06 13:24:24.847 What do I do with my hands? 2016-08-06 13:24:24.861 What do I do with my hands? 2016-08-06 13:24:27.849 It was something interesting to 2016-08-06 13:24:27.85 me. 2016-08-06 13:24:27.862 It was something interesting to 2016-08-06 13:24:27.863 me. 2016-08-06 13:24:30.897 At the same time, the issue of 2016-08-06 13:24:30.91 At the same time, the issue of 2016-08-06 13:24:32.911 the choreography that was 2016-08-06 13:24:32.924 the choreography that was 2016-08-06 13:24:37.016 supporting the music. 2016-08-06 13:24:37.018 And at the same time, 2016-08-06 13:24:37.019 accessibility. 2016-08-06 13:24:37.03 supporting the music. 2016-08-06 13:24:37.031 And at the same time, 2016-08-06 13:24:37.033 accessibility. 2016-08-06 13:24:40.098 We had to think of several 2016-08-06 13:24:40.1 things at the same time. 2016-08-06 13:24:40.111 We had to think of several 2016-08-06 13:24:40.113 things at the same time. 2016-08-06 13:24:46.148 We wanted to know 2016-08-06 13:24:46.149 more. 2016-08-06 13:24:46.161 We wanted to know 2016-08-06 13:24:46.162 more. 2016-08-06 13:24:51.15 Beth: That was going to be one 2016-08-06 13:24:51.152 of the themes for the day. 2016-08-06 13:24:51.163 Beth: That was going to be one 2016-08-06 13:24:51.168 of the themes for the day. 2016-08-06 13:24:56.145 That supporting and creating 2016-08-06 13:24:56.159 That supporting and creating 2016-08-06 13:24:58.15 opportunities for people with 2016-08-06 13:24:58.163 opportunities for people with 2016-08-06 13:25:00.15 disabilities is innovative. 2016-08-06 13:25:00.161 disabilities is innovative. 2016-08-06 13:25:02.147 It drives innovation. 2016-08-06 13:25:02.16 It drives innovation. 2016-08-06 13:25:03.178 It is not "charity." 2016-08-06 13:25:03.192 It is not "charity." 2016-08-06 13:25:07.178 It is creating art in a new and 2016-08-06 13:25:07.18 different way that is more 2016-08-06 13:25:07.192 It is creating art in a new and 2016-08-06 13:25:07.193 different way that is more 2016-08-06 13:25:10.179 innovative and adds to the 2016-08-06 13:25:10.193 innovative and adds to the 2016-08-06 13:25:11.177 repertoire. 2016-08-06 13:25:11.191 repertoire. 2016-08-06 13:25:13.18 It adds to our experience. 2016-08-06 13:25:13.193 It adds to our experience. 2016-08-06 13:25:16.181 Is that the reaction you get 2016-08-06 13:25:16.194 Is that the reaction you get 2016-08-06 13:25:18.18 from the public when you 2016-08-06 13:25:18.181 perform? 2016-08-06 13:25:18.193 from the public when you 2016-08-06 13:25:18.194 perform? 2016-08-06 13:25:21.222 D.J.: It is an interesting 2016-08-06 13:25:21.235 D.J.: It is an interesting 2016-08-06 13:25:25.224 experience because we have been 2016-08-06 13:25:25.226 in L.A. 25 years. 2016-08-06 13:25:25.237 experience because we have been 2016-08-06 13:25:25.239 in L.A. 25 years. 2016-08-06 13:25:27.307 L.A. is used to us. 2016-08-06 13:25:27.32 L.A. is used to us. 2016-08-06 13:25:29.304 They keep coming to see our 2016-08-06 13:25:29.306 shows. 2016-08-06 13:25:29.317 They keep coming to see our 2016-08-06 13:25:29.318 shows. 2016-08-06 13:25:31.361 We have a great audience. 2016-08-06 13:25:31.375 We have a great audience. 2016-08-06 13:25:33.359 We always sell out our shows. 2016-08-06 13:25:33.373 We always sell out our shows. 2016-08-06 13:25:35.363 Then we come to New York and we 2016-08-06 13:25:35.376 Then we come to New York and we 2016-08-06 13:25:39.473 meet people that say you are 2016-08-06 13:25:39.486 meet people that say you are 2016-08-06 13:25:41.471 moving your hands too much. 2016-08-06 13:25:41.484 moving your hands too much. 2016-08-06 13:25:43.516 Why are you moving your hand so 2016-08-06 13:25:43.517 much? 2016-08-06 13:25:43.529 Why are you moving your hand so 2016-08-06 13:25:43.53 much? 2016-08-06 13:25:46.515 We have to explain it is sign 2016-08-06 13:25:46.517 language and part of the show. 2016-08-06 13:25:46.529 We have to explain it is sign 2016-08-06 13:25:46.53 language and part of the show. 2016-08-06 13:25:48.515 We found the education piece is 2016-08-06 13:25:48.528 We found the education piece is 2016-08-06 13:25:49.512 ongoing. 2016-08-06 13:25:49.526 ongoing. 2016-08-06 13:25:50.514 It never stops. 2016-08-06 13:25:50.528 It never stops. 2016-08-06 13:25:54.515 It is endless. 2016-08-06 13:25:54.517 We have got to keep explaining 2016-08-06 13:25:54.529 It is endless. 2016-08-06 13:25:54.531 We have got to keep explaining 2016-08-06 13:25:56.52 it and educating people as to 2016-08-06 13:25:56.533 it and educating people as to 2016-08-06 13:25:57.513 what we do. 2016-08-06 13:25:57.527 what we do. 2016-08-06 13:26:00.558 Sign language and why we have 2016-08-06 13:26:00.571 Sign language and why we have 2016-08-06 13:26:01.597 deaf actors on the same stage. 2016-08-06 13:26:01.61 deaf actors on the same stage. 2016-08-06 13:26:06.614 The experience of going to New 2016-08-06 13:26:06.646 The experience of going to New 2016-08-06 13:26:08.657 York and performing their made 2016-08-06 13:26:08.67 York and performing their made 2016-08-06 13:26:09.68 me realize how long we still 2016-08-06 13:26:09.681 have to go. 2016-08-06 13:26:09.693 me realize how long we still 2016-08-06 13:26:09.695 have to go. 2016-08-06 13:26:13.698 Beth: Yeah. 2016-08-06 13:26:13.712 Beth: Yeah. 2016-08-06 13:26:15.696 I think it takes a lot of 2016-08-06 13:26:15.709 I think it takes a lot of 2016-08-06 13:26:16.701 awareness raising. 2016-08-06 13:26:16.714 awareness raising. 2016-08-06 13:26:23.901 With "Spring Awakening," so many 2016-08-06 13:26:23.915 With "Spring Awakening," so many 2016-08-06 13:26:24.904 people saw it and appreciated 2016-08-06 13:26:24.906 the unique approach. 2016-08-06 13:26:24.918 people saw it and appreciated 2016-08-06 13:26:24.919 the unique approach. 2016-08-06 13:26:26.943 Hopefully, that did make an 2016-08-06 13:26:26.944 impact. 2016-08-06 13:26:26.956 Hopefully, that did make an 2016-08-06 13:26:26.958 impact. 2016-08-06 13:26:32.045 It was the first 2016-08-06 13:26:32.046 show -- 2016-08-06 13:26:32.059 It was the first 2016-08-06 13:26:32.06 show -- 2016-08-06 13:26:33.065 Broadway production to also 2016-08-06 13:26:33.079 Broadway production to also 2016-08-06 13:26:36.151 feature a wheelchair user. 2016-08-06 13:26:36.164 feature a wheelchair user. 2016-08-06 13:26:39.156 What was your experience or your 2016-08-06 13:26:39.169 What was your experience or your 2016-08-06 13:26:43.196 colleagues' experience in 2016-08-06 13:26:43.209 colleagues' experience in 2016-08-06 13:26:47.197 bringing Allie into the show? 2016-08-06 13:26:47.211 bringing Allie into the show? 2016-08-06 13:26:51.233 This conversation today is about 2016-08-06 13:26:51.235 a broad range of disability. 2016-08-06 13:26:51.246 This conversation today is about 2016-08-06 13:26:51.248 a broad range of disability. 2016-08-06 13:26:55.266 I'm sure you have things to 2016-08-06 13:26:55.267 share about how to incorporate 2016-08-06 13:26:55.282 I'm sure you have things to 2016-08-06 13:26:55.285 share about how to incorporate 2016-08-06 13:26:58.309 someone using a wheelchair when 2016-08-06 13:26:58.314 the Broadway houses are narrow 2016-08-06 13:26:58.322 someone using a wheelchair when 2016-08-06 13:26:58.324 the Broadway houses are narrow 2016-08-06 13:26:59.306 and inaccessible. 2016-08-06 13:26:59.319 and inaccessible. 2016-08-06 13:27:03.305 D.J.: Yeah. 2016-08-06 13:27:03.318 D.J.: Yeah. 2016-08-06 13:27:07.318 I think it goes back to our 2016-08-06 13:27:07.332 I think it goes back to our 2016-08-06 13:27:11.399 small, first production of 2016-08-06 13:27:11.413 small, first production of 2016-08-06 13:27:12.395 "Spring Awakening" in L.A. 2016-08-06 13:27:12.408 "Spring Awakening" in L.A. 2016-08-06 13:27:15.398 I remember when she came in the 2016-08-06 13:27:15.4 room. 2016-08-06 13:27:15.412 I remember when she came in the 2016-08-06 13:27:15.414 room. 2016-08-06 13:27:17.44 I remember some people next to 2016-08-06 13:27:17.454 I remember some people next to 2016-08-06 13:27:20.471 me got nervous. 2016-08-06 13:27:20.484 me got nervous. 2016-08-06 13:27:24.524 But we definitely know we have 2016-08-06 13:27:24.526 to do things like that. 2016-08-06 13:27:24.537 But we definitely know we have 2016-08-06 13:27:24.539 to do things like that. 2016-08-06 13:27:26.559 She is a very talented woman. 2016-08-06 13:27:26.573 She is a very talented woman. 2016-08-06 13:27:29.608 She is an amazing actor, a great 2016-08-06 13:27:29.609 singer. 2016-08-06 13:27:29.622 She is an amazing actor, a great 2016-08-06 13:27:29.623 singer. 2016-08-06 13:27:31.718 We knew that we had to make that 2016-08-06 13:27:31.732 We knew that we had to make that 2016-08-06 13:27:35.768 happen because of our experience 2016-08-06 13:27:35.782 happen because of our experience 2016-08-06 13:27:40.852 in making room for people 2016-08-06 13:27:40.865 in making room for people 2016-08-06 13:27:41.897 with 2016-08-06 13:27:41.91 with 2016-08-06 13:27:42.902 accessibility, we need to apply 2016-08-06 13:27:42.904 the same principle to others. 2016-08-06 13:27:42.915 accessibility, we need to apply 2016-08-06 13:27:42.915 the same principle to others. 2016-08-06 13:27:46.978 That was the discussion we had 2016-08-06 13:27:46.991 That was the discussion we had 2016-08-06 13:27:48.018 for a long time from the opening 2016-08-06 13:27:48.02 show, asking questions, making 2016-08-06 13:27:48.031 for a long time from the opening 2016-08-06 13:27:48.033 show, asking questions, making 2016-08-06 13:27:52.102 sure that was the type of 2016-08-06 13:27:52.104 dialogue that was open and 2016-08-06 13:27:52.105 sharing. 2016-08-06 13:27:52.116 sure that was the type of 2016-08-06 13:27:52.117 dialogue that was open and 2016-08-06 13:27:52.119 sharing. 2016-08-06 13:27:54.152 We learned a lot in the process. 2016-08-06 13:27:54.166 We learned a lot in the process. 2016-08-06 13:27:59.197 We came to New York 2016-08-06 13:27:59.198 and it was a 2016-08-06 13:27:59.21 We came to New York 2016-08-06 13:27:59.211 and it was a 2016-08-06 13:28:00.199 huge change. 2016-08-06 13:28:00.212 huge change. 2016-08-06 13:28:02.231 The theater was not accessible. 2016-08-06 13:28:02.245 The theater was not accessible. 2016-08-06 13:28:06.276 We really had to pay from our 2016-08-06 13:28:06.29 We really had to pay from our 2016-08-06 13:28:09.347 own pockets to make sure the 2016-08-06 13:28:09.361 own pockets to make sure the 2016-08-06 13:28:11.347 theater was accessible for 2016-08-06 13:28:11.36 theater was accessible for 2016-08-06 13:28:14.349 Allie and the doorframes 2016-08-06 13:28:14.362 Allie and the doorframes 2016-08-06 13:28:15.348 were appropriate. 2016-08-06 13:28:15.361 were appropriate. 2016-08-06 13:28:17.35 They also had to build a new 2016-08-06 13:28:17.352 bathroom for her. 2016-08-06 13:28:17.364 They also had to build a new 2016-08-06 13:28:17.365 bathroom for her. 2016-08-06 13:28:22.349 We had to build ramps, so many 2016-08-06 13:28:22.35 things. 2016-08-06 13:28:22.362 We had to build ramps, so many 2016-08-06 13:28:22.364 things. 2016-08-06 13:28:24.355 Everything costs money. 2016-08-06 13:28:24.368 Everything costs money. 2016-08-06 13:28:26.402 We found donations. 2016-08-06 13:28:26.415 We found donations. 2016-08-06 13:28:28.449 We found investors willing to 2016-08-06 13:28:28.463 We found investors willing to 2016-08-06 13:28:29.479 support that. 2016-08-06 13:28:29.492 support that. 2016-08-06 13:28:31.526 We were very fortunate to have 2016-08-06 13:28:31.527 that. 2016-08-06 13:28:31.539 We were very fortunate to have 2016-08-06 13:28:31.54 that. 2016-08-06 13:28:37.567 For me, it was fascinating 2016-08-06 13:28:37.568 how 2016-08-06 13:28:37.57 we found that out in the first 2016-08-06 13:28:37.58 For me, it was fascinating 2016-08-06 13:28:37.581 how 2016-08-06 13:28:37.583 we found that out in the first 2016-08-06 13:28:38.598 place. 2016-08-06 13:28:38.612 place. 2016-08-06 13:28:40.599 The first person with a 2016-08-06 13:28:40.612 The first person with a 2016-08-06 13:28:43.599 wheelchair ramp on Broadway, we 2016-08-06 13:28:43.613 wheelchair ramp on Broadway, we 2016-08-06 13:28:44.599 could not believe that at first. 2016-08-06 13:28:44.612 could not believe that at first. 2016-08-06 13:28:46.598 We did some searching. 2016-08-06 13:28:46.612 We did some searching. 2016-08-06 13:28:48.598 We found out. 2016-08-06 13:28:48.611 We found out. 2016-08-06 13:28:50.601 We asked the alliance for the 2016-08-06 13:28:50.615 We asked the alliance for the 2016-08-06 13:28:51.6 inclusion information. 2016-08-06 13:28:51.613 inclusion information. 2016-08-06 13:28:54.601 We said, is this true that she 2016-08-06 13:28:54.615 We said, is this true that she 2016-08-06 13:28:55.598 is the first person on Broadway? 2016-08-06 13:28:55.611 is the first person on Broadway? 2016-08-06 13:28:56.6 We could not believe that. 2016-08-06 13:28:56.613 We could not believe that. 2016-08-06 13:28:59.603 It was fascinating for me as a 2016-08-06 13:28:59.613 It was fascinating for me as a 2016-08-06 13:29:01.6 deaf person how people were so 2016-08-06 13:29:01.613 deaf person how people were so 2016-08-06 13:29:06.6 thrilled and celebrated Allie 2016-08-06 13:29:06.601 and her arrival on Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:29:06.613 thrilled and celebrated Allie 2016-08-06 13:29:06.615 and her arrival on Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:29:10.601 At the same time having deaf 2016-08-06 13:29:10.603 actors, they thought that was no 2016-08-06 13:29:10.604 big deal. 2016-08-06 13:29:10.614 At the same time having deaf 2016-08-06 13:29:10.616 actors, they thought that was no 2016-08-06 13:29:10.617 big deal. 2016-08-06 13:29:13.597 They were more excited by Allie. 2016-08-06 13:29:13.61 They were more excited by Allie. 2016-08-06 13:29:15.6 It is not a bad thing at all. 2016-08-06 13:29:15.614 It is not a bad thing at all. 2016-08-06 13:29:18.646 There was no jealousy or 2016-08-06 13:29:18.648 animosity. 2016-08-06 13:29:18.66 There was no jealousy or 2016-08-06 13:29:18.661 animosity. 2016-08-06 13:29:22.646 For me, it was interesting 2016-08-06 13:29:22.66 For me, it was interesting 2016-08-06 13:29:23.644 because as a deaf actor it was 2016-08-06 13:29:23.646 the first time we had that kind 2016-08-06 13:29:23.658 because as a deaf actor it was 2016-08-06 13:29:23.66 the first time we had that kind 2016-08-06 13:29:28.646 of awareness in the community 2016-08-06 13:29:28.648 compared to the wheelchair 2016-08-06 13:29:28.649 community. 2016-08-06 13:29:28.659 of awareness in the community 2016-08-06 13:29:28.661 compared to the wheelchair 2016-08-06 13:29:28.662 community. 2016-08-06 13:29:29.646 It was interesting. 2016-08-06 13:29:29.66 It was interesting. 2016-08-06 13:29:33.697 At the same time, we were all in 2016-08-06 13:29:33.699 the same boat together. 2016-08-06 13:29:33.71 At the same time, we were all in 2016-08-06 13:29:33.712 the same boat together. 2016-08-06 13:29:36.724 We were a group of artists, 2016-08-06 13:29:36.738 We were a group of artists, 2016-08-06 13:29:37.725 disability artists. 2016-08-06 13:29:37.738 disability artists. 2016-08-06 13:29:41.726 And hopefully, we were growing 2016-08-06 13:29:41.728 together and will continue to 2016-08-06 13:29:41.729 grow together. 2016-08-06 13:29:41.739 And hopefully, we were growing 2016-08-06 13:29:41.741 together and will continue to 2016-08-06 13:29:41.742 grow together. 2016-08-06 13:29:42.728 That is important to me. 2016-08-06 13:29:42.743 That is important to me. 2016-08-06 13:29:44.728 Beth: That is great. 2016-08-06 13:29:44.741 Beth: That is great. 2016-08-06 13:29:47.777 I think it was a really 2016-08-06 13:29:47.791 I think it was a really 2016-08-06 13:29:48.811 important moment to have so many 2016-08-06 13:29:48.824 important moment to have so many 2016-08-06 13:29:49.815 talented people on Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:29:49.829 talented people on Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:29:52.905 This past year, they have talked 2016-08-06 13:29:52.919 This past year, they have talked 2016-08-06 13:29:57.974 about 2016-08-06 13:29:57.975 how of all of the shows on 2016-08-06 13:29:57.987 about 2016-08-06 13:29:57.989 how of all of the shows on 2016-08-06 13:30:01.016 Broadway and those nominated for 2016-08-06 13:30:01.029 Broadway and those nominated for 2016-08-06 13:30:03.018 Tony awards, there was so much 2016-08-06 13:30:03.031 Tony awards, there was so much 2016-08-06 13:30:08.041 more diversity represented than 2016-08-06 13:30:08.043 the Oscars which people 2016-08-06 13:30:08.045 complained about. 2016-08-06 13:30:08.054 more diversity represented than 2016-08-06 13:30:08.056 the Oscars which people 2016-08-06 13:30:08.057 complained about. 2016-08-06 13:30:12.066 Do you see this as creating 2016-08-06 13:30:12.08 Do you see this as creating 2016-08-06 13:30:14.109 forward momentum with having 2016-08-06 13:30:14.122 forward momentum with having 2016-08-06 13:30:16.155 more people with disabilities in 2016-08-06 13:30:16.168 more people with disabilities in 2016-08-06 13:30:19.226 theater in general or Broadway 2016-08-06 13:30:19.228 specific? 2016-08-06 13:30:19.24 theater in general or Broadway 2016-08-06 13:30:19.241 specific? 2016-08-06 13:30:25.268 I know we have 2016-08-06 13:30:25.282 I know we have 2016-08-06 13:30:27.306 "Glass 2016-08-06 13:30:27.32 "Glass 2016-08-06 13:30:30.314 Menagerie" with another 2016-08-06 13:30:30.316 wheelchair user. 2016-08-06 13:30:30.328 Menagerie" with another 2016-08-06 13:30:30.33 wheelchair user. 2016-08-06 13:30:33.396 Do you see other movements 2016-08-06 13:30:33.398 forward? 2016-08-06 13:30:33.41 Do you see other movements 2016-08-06 13:30:33.411 forward? 2016-08-06 13:30:38.452 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:30:38.453 I can see some ripple 2016-08-06 13:30:38.455 effects from that definitely. 2016-08-06 13:30:38.466 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:30:38.467 I can see some ripple 2016-08-06 13:30:38.469 effects from that definitely. 2016-08-06 13:30:41.483 But at the same time, being 2016-08-06 13:30:41.497 But at the same time, being 2016-08-06 13:30:44.564 aware of the deaf people in the 2016-08-06 13:30:44.577 aware of the deaf people in the 2016-08-06 13:30:45.564 media and in television and film 2016-08-06 13:30:45.577 media and in television and film 2016-08-06 13:30:48.603 and theater since I was a little 2016-08-06 13:30:48.604 boy. 2016-08-06 13:30:48.617 and theater since I was a little 2016-08-06 13:30:48.623 boy. 2016-08-06 13:30:55.725 I know enough to understand 2016-08-06 13:30:55.726 that 2016-08-06 13:30:55.739 I know enough to understand 2016-08-06 13:30:55.74 that 2016-08-06 13:30:56.726 it happens in waves. 2016-08-06 13:30:56.732 I think the pendulum is always 2016-08-06 13:30:56.734 going to swing. 2016-08-06 13:30:56.739 it happens in waves. 2016-08-06 13:30:56.741 I think the pendulum is always 2016-08-06 13:30:56.742 going to swing. 2016-08-06 13:30:58.73 Hopefully we can keep up with 2016-08-06 13:30:58.744 Hopefully we can keep up with 2016-08-06 13:31:00.726 that when it swings as long as 2016-08-06 13:31:00.728 we can. 2016-08-06 13:31:00.739 that when it swings as long as 2016-08-06 13:31:00.741 we can. 2016-08-06 13:31:05.83 Personally 2016-08-06 13:31:05.845 Personally 2016-08-06 13:31:06.856 , I have a long 2016-08-06 13:31:06.858 perspective on things. 2016-08-06 13:31:06.869 , I have a long 2016-08-06 13:31:06.871 perspective on things. 2016-08-06 13:31:09.904 Instead of trying to worry about 2016-08-06 13:31:09.917 Instead of trying to worry about 2016-08-06 13:31:11.962 what will happen next year or 2016-08-06 13:31:11.975 what will happen next year or 2016-08-06 13:31:13.978 what other shows are coming up, 2016-08-06 13:31:13.992 what other shows are coming up, 2016-08-06 13:31:16.02 I want to make sure we are 2016-08-06 13:31:16.033 I want to make sure we are 2016-08-06 13:31:20.065 making art that is sustainable 2016-08-06 13:31:20.078 making art that is sustainable 2016-08-06 13:31:25.132 and interesting and new 2016-08-06 13:31:25.133 and from 2016-08-06 13:31:25.134 our own perspective and voice. 2016-08-06 13:31:25.145 and interesting and new 2016-08-06 13:31:25.146 and from 2016-08-06 13:31:25.148 our own perspective and voice. 2016-08-06 13:31:28.204 That is more important to me 2016-08-06 13:31:28.206 than having more of it and 2016-08-06 13:31:28.218 That is more important to me 2016-08-06 13:31:28.219 than having more of it and 2016-08-06 13:31:32.278 rushing out to strike while the 2016-08-06 13:31:32.279 iron is hot. 2016-08-06 13:31:32.291 rushing out to strike while the 2016-08-06 13:31:32.292 iron is hot. 2016-08-06 13:31:38.317 They like 2016-08-06 13:31:38.33 They like 2016-08-06 13:31:39.35 to see the disabled 2016-08-06 13:31:39.363 to see the disabled 2016-08-06 13:31:41.358 artists and actors keeping up 2016-08-06 13:31:41.36 their work. 2016-08-06 13:31:41.372 artists and actors keeping up 2016-08-06 13:31:41.374 their work. 2016-08-06 13:31:44.398 I would like to see all of them 2016-08-06 13:31:44.4 do more in the future. 2016-08-06 13:31:44.412 I would like to see all of them 2016-08-06 13:31:44.413 do more in the future. 2016-08-06 13:31:46.395 That is the long-term 2016-08-06 13:31:46.408 That is the long-term 2016-08-06 13:31:47.448 perspective I think. 2016-08-06 13:31:47.461 perspective I think. 2016-08-06 13:31:51.478 Beth: hopefully, we will be able 2016-08-06 13:31:51.479 to see that continue. 2016-08-06 13:31:51.492 Beth: hopefully, we will be able 2016-08-06 13:31:51.493 to see that continue. 2016-08-06 13:31:56.518 There 2016-08-06 13:31:56.519 is the pendulum metaphor. 2016-08-06 13:31:56.525 I also like to see it as the 2016-08-06 13:31:56.531 There 2016-08-06 13:31:56.533 is the pendulum metaphor. 2016-08-06 13:31:56.535 I also like to see it as the 2016-08-06 13:31:59.516 pendulum is on a rack and the 2016-08-06 13:31:59.529 pendulum is on a rack and the 2016-08-06 13:32:01.53 rack is constantly moving 2016-08-06 13:32:01.536 rack is constantly moving 2016-08-06 13:32:03.516 forward. 2016-08-06 13:32:03.53 forward. 2016-08-06 13:32:07.518 Even if the pendulum is swinging 2016-08-06 13:32:07.531 Even if the pendulum is swinging 2016-08-06 13:32:08.524 back, the thing it is on is 2016-08-06 13:32:08.525 still moving forward. 2016-08-06 13:32:08.537 back, the thing it is on is 2016-08-06 13:32:08.539 still moving forward. 2016-08-06 13:32:10.523 D.J.: Muhammadan moving the 2016-08-06 13:32:10.524 mountain. 2016-08-06 13:32:10.536 D.J.: Muhammadan moving the 2016-08-06 13:32:10.537 mountain. 2016-08-06 13:32:16.558 Beth: One important part of 2016-08-06 13:32:16.559 this 2016-08-06 13:32:16.571 Beth: One important part of 2016-08-06 13:32:16.572 this 2016-08-06 13:32:18.56 is having plays about the 2016-08-06 13:32:18.573 is having plays about the 2016-08-06 13:32:20.601 experience of having a 2016-08-06 13:32:20.602 disability or being deaf. 2016-08-06 13:32:20.614 experience of having a 2016-08-06 13:32:20.616 disability or being deaf. 2016-08-06 13:32:23.6 Do you see more plays being 2016-08-06 13:32:23.614 Do you see more plays being 2016-08-06 13:32:26.601 written by deaf playwrights were 2016-08-06 13:32:26.603 about the deaf experience? 2016-08-06 13:32:26.614 written by deaf playwrights were 2016-08-06 13:32:26.616 about the deaf experience? 2016-08-06 13:32:28.647 What can we do to foster more 2016-08-06 13:32:28.66 What can we do to foster more 2016-08-06 13:32:29.646 plays? 2016-08-06 13:32:29.659 plays? 2016-08-06 13:32:34.646 D.J.: That is tough to answer. 2016-08-06 13:32:34.659 D.J.: That is tough to answer. 2016-08-06 13:32:37.696 It is one I have been trying to 2016-08-06 13:32:37.697 solve for a while. 2016-08-06 13:32:37.709 It is one I have been trying to 2016-08-06 13:32:37.711 solve for a while. 2016-08-06 13:32:40.727 The theater itself is not 2016-08-06 13:32:40.74 The theater itself is not 2016-08-06 13:32:41.724 accessible. 2016-08-06 13:32:41.737 accessible. 2016-08-06 13:32:45.727 It is not an accessible art form 2016-08-06 13:32:45.728 for disabled people. 2016-08-06 13:32:45.74 It is not an accessible art form 2016-08-06 13:32:45.742 for disabled people. 2016-08-06 13:32:49.725 Deaf West is fortunate it is in 2016-08-06 13:32:49.743 Deaf West is fortunate it is in 2016-08-06 13:32:50.731 my backyard and I have learned 2016-08-06 13:32:50.744 my backyard and I have learned 2016-08-06 13:32:52.768 how to appreciate theater from 2016-08-06 13:32:52.77 Deaf West. 2016-08-06 13:32:52.781 how to appreciate theater from 2016-08-06 13:32:52.782 Deaf West. 2016-08-06 13:32:54.771 They have given me that. 2016-08-06 13:32:54.784 They have given me that. 2016-08-06 13:32:57.77 It is not something you have all 2016-08-06 13:32:57.783 It is not something you have all 2016-08-06 13:32:58.769 over the U.S. 2016-08-06 13:32:58.782 over the U.S. 2016-08-06 13:33:00.778 That experience does not exist 2016-08-06 13:33:00.779 for others. 2016-08-06 13:33:00.791 That experience does not exist 2016-08-06 13:33:00.793 for others. 2016-08-06 13:33:04.947 You have to start young and 2016-08-06 13:33:04.96 You have to start young and 2016-08-06 13:33:05.951 increase art education, making 2016-08-06 13:33:05.953 sure it is out there and deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:05.964 increase art education, making 2016-08-06 13:33:05.965 sure it is out there and deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:09.032 kids get access to theater so 2016-08-06 13:33:09.045 kids get access to theater so 2016-08-06 13:33:11.07 they feel the motivation to make 2016-08-06 13:33:11.071 that choice to go into theater. 2016-08-06 13:33:11.083 they feel the motivation to make 2016-08-06 13:33:11.085 that choice to go into theater. 2016-08-06 13:33:16.103 I am not saying -- 2016-08-06 13:33:16.104 We have deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:16.117 I am not saying -- 2016-08-06 13:33:16.118 We have deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:20.101 writers, but we need to develop 2016-08-06 13:33:20.115 writers, but we need to develop 2016-08-06 13:33:21.102 infrastructure for the deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:21.115 infrastructure for the deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:24.106 writers to be able to develop 2016-08-06 13:33:24.12 writers to be able to develop 2016-08-06 13:33:27.146 their work. 2016-08-06 13:33:27.159 their work. 2016-08-06 13:33:31.15 With other hearing artists, deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:31.152 artists, it does not matter who 2016-08-06 13:33:31.164 With other hearing artists, deaf 2016-08-06 13:33:31.166 artists, it does not matter who 2016-08-06 13:33:32.195 they collaborate with. 2016-08-06 13:33:32.209 they collaborate with. 2016-08-06 13:33:34.197 They are all working alone in 2016-08-06 13:33:34.199 silence. 2016-08-06 13:33:34.211 They are all working alone in 2016-08-06 13:33:34.212 silence. 2016-08-06 13:33:37.226 My goal is to bring them 2016-08-06 13:33:37.227 together. 2016-08-06 13:33:37.239 My goal is to bring them 2016-08-06 13:33:37.241 together. 2016-08-06 13:33:42.235 Also, 2016-08-06 13:33:42.236 at that level, knowing 2016-08-06 13:33:42.238 English is not our first 2016-08-06 13:33:42.248 Also, 2016-08-06 13:33:42.25 at that level, knowing 2016-08-06 13:33:42.251 English is not our first 2016-08-06 13:33:45.27 language so we are writing in 2016-08-06 13:33:45.283 language so we are writing in 2016-08-06 13:33:46.28 our second language, so to 2016-08-06 13:33:46.281 speak. 2016-08-06 13:33:46.293 our second language, so to 2016-08-06 13:33:46.294 speak. 2016-08-06 13:33:48.275 We have got to find a way to 2016-08-06 13:33:48.284 We have got to find a way to 2016-08-06 13:33:53.37 empower the deaf writers 2016-08-06 13:33:53.371 to 2016-08-06 13:33:53.373 write in their first language as 2016-08-06 13:33:53.383 empower the deaf writers 2016-08-06 13:33:53.384 to 2016-08-06 13:33:53.386 write in their first language as 2016-08-06 13:33:56.399 well and find ways to translate 2016-08-06 13:33:56.4 into a theater form. 2016-08-06 13:33:56.412 well and find ways to translate 2016-08-06 13:33:56.413 into a theater form. 2016-08-06 13:33:59.402 Beth: I have met a few people 2016-08-06 13:33:59.415 Beth: I have met a few people 2016-08-06 13:34:00.401 from theaters here today. 2016-08-06 13:34:00.414 from theaters here today. 2016-08-06 13:34:05.457 I know we will have theater 2016-08-06 13:34:05.458 people out there. 2016-08-06 13:34:05.469 I know we will have theater 2016-08-06 13:34:05.471 people out there. 2016-08-06 13:34:07.522 What would you recommend for 2016-08-06 13:34:07.535 What would you recommend for 2016-08-06 13:34:08.528 theater companies around the 2016-08-06 13:34:08.541 theater companies around the 2016-08-06 13:34:11.614 country that might want to 2016-08-06 13:34:11.627 country that might want to 2016-08-06 13:34:14.697 include more deaf actors, more 2016-08-06 13:34:14.71 include more deaf actors, more 2016-08-06 13:34:15.702 plays about the deaf experience? 2016-08-06 13:34:15.716 plays about the deaf experience? 2016-08-06 13:34:18.73 What recommendations do you have 2016-08-06 13:34:18.744 What recommendations do you have 2016-08-06 13:34:20.769 for including those actors, 2016-08-06 13:34:20.782 for including those actors, 2016-08-06 13:34:22.77 whether they are in a role 2016-08-06 13:34:22.772 written for a deaf character or 2016-08-06 13:34:22.783 whether they are in a role 2016-08-06 13:34:22.785 written for a deaf character or 2016-08-06 13:34:23.768 not? 2016-08-06 13:34:23.782 not? 2016-08-06 13:34:31.811 D.J.: My advice is always the 2016-08-06 13:34:31.812 same thing. 2016-08-06 13:34:31.824 D.J.: My advice is always the 2016-08-06 13:34:31.826 same thing. 2016-08-06 13:34:34.813 I have one piece of advice I 2016-08-06 13:34:34.814 always give. 2016-08-06 13:34:34.826 I have one piece of advice I 2016-08-06 13:34:34.827 always give. 2016-08-06 13:34:36.851 Get deaf people involved in the 2016-08-06 13:34:36.864 Get deaf people involved in the 2016-08-06 13:34:37.853 process. 2016-08-06 13:34:37.866 process. 2016-08-06 13:34:41.896 Deaf people, we are your best 2016-08-06 13:34:41.91 Deaf people, we are your best 2016-08-06 13:34:43.898 advocates and analyze -- Allies. 2016-08-06 13:34:43.911 advocates and analyze -- Allies. 2016-08-06 13:34:47.897 We have the answers to give. 2016-08-06 13:34:47.903 We know what it takes. 2016-08-06 13:34:47.91 We have the answers to give. 2016-08-06 13:34:47.912 We know what it takes. 2016-08-06 13:34:48.945 We understand what the process 2016-08-06 13:34:48.959 We understand what the process 2016-08-06 13:34:49.955 will entail and look like. 2016-08-06 13:34:49.969 will entail and look like. 2016-08-06 13:34:51.978 We are your best resource. 2016-08-06 13:34:51.991 We are your best resource. 2016-08-06 13:34:55.977 Also, the other thing, be 2016-08-06 13:34:55.99 Also, the other thing, be 2016-08-06 13:34:57.98 willing to learn and be open to 2016-08-06 13:34:57.982 that. 2016-08-06 13:34:57.994 willing to learn and be open to 2016-08-06 13:34:57.995 that. 2016-08-06 13:34:59.978 Your heart has to be in the 2016-08-06 13:34:59.991 Your heart has to be in the 2016-08-06 13:35:00.977 right place. 2016-08-06 13:35:00.99 right place. 2016-08-06 13:35:06.06 I don't mean -- 2016-08-06 13:35:06.062 I often meet 2016-08-06 13:35:06.063 some people who are very 2016-08-06 13:35:06.074 I don't mean -- 2016-08-06 13:35:06.075 I often meet 2016-08-06 13:35:06.076 some people who are very 2016-08-06 13:35:10.061 motivated by deaf artists and 2016-08-06 13:35:10.074 motivated by deaf artists and 2016-08-06 13:35:11.061 disability artists because of 2016-08-06 13:35:11.075 disability artists because of 2016-08-06 13:35:13.061 the opportunity for financial 2016-08-06 13:35:13.073 the opportunity for financial 2016-08-06 13:35:14.059 reasons. 2016-08-06 13:35:14.072 reasons. 2016-08-06 13:35:17.061 I recognize that does not work. 2016-08-06 13:35:17.074 I recognize that does not work. 2016-08-06 13:35:20.063 In the long run, it will not be 2016-08-06 13:35:20.065 successful. 2016-08-06 13:35:20.076 In the long run, it will not be 2016-08-06 13:35:20.077 successful. 2016-08-06 13:35:22.062 Your heart has to be in the 2016-08-06 13:35:22.063 right place for that. 2016-08-06 13:35:22.075 Your heart has to be in the 2016-08-06 13:35:22.076 right place for that. 2016-08-06 13:35:27.146 Beth: I think everybody 2016-08-06 13:35:27.147 in the 2016-08-06 13:35:27.148 room definitely has their hearts 2016-08-06 13:35:27.15 in the right place. 2016-08-06 13:35:27.159 Beth: I think everybody 2016-08-06 13:35:27.16 in the 2016-08-06 13:35:27.162 room definitely has their hearts 2016-08-06 13:35:27.163 in the right place. 2016-08-06 13:35:29.146 It is just figuring out how to 2016-08-06 13:35:29.148 make it work. 2016-08-06 13:35:29.16 It is just figuring out how to 2016-08-06 13:35:29.161 make it work. 2016-08-06 13:35:35.144 You were talking about 2016-08-06 13:35:35.145 students 2016-08-06 13:35:35.157 You were talking about 2016-08-06 13:35:35.162 students 2016-08-06 13:35:36.151 and kids interested in this. 2016-08-06 13:35:36.165 and kids interested in this. 2016-08-06 13:35:39.268 What suggestions would you have 2016-08-06 13:35:39.282 What suggestions would you have 2016-08-06 13:35:41.316 for deaf artists or artists with 2016-08-06 13:35:41.326 for deaf artists or artists with 2016-08-06 13:35:44.352 disabilities want to have a 2016-08-06 13:35:44.354 career in the arts? 2016-08-06 13:35:44.366 disabilities want to have a 2016-08-06 13:35:44.368 career in the arts? 2016-08-06 13:35:47.355 What would you recommend as they 2016-08-06 13:35:47.368 What would you recommend as they 2016-08-06 13:35:48.364 are in school, looking at 2016-08-06 13:35:48.377 are in school, looking at 2016-08-06 13:35:51.396 college, training, and moving 2016-08-06 13:35:51.398 out into the world? 2016-08-06 13:35:51.41 college, training, and moving 2016-08-06 13:35:51.411 out into the world? 2016-08-06 13:35:59.459 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:35:59.46 that is a tough question 2016-08-06 13:35:59.461 to answer. 2016-08-06 13:35:59.472 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:35:59.473 that is a tough question 2016-08-06 13:35:59.474 to answer. 2016-08-06 13:36:02.525 I wish it was an easier road for 2016-08-06 13:36:02.526 them. 2016-08-06 13:36:02.538 I wish it was an easier road for 2016-08-06 13:36:02.539 them. 2016-08-06 13:36:04.607 I wish we had paved it for them 2016-08-06 13:36:04.62 I wish we had paved it for them 2016-08-06 13:36:10.644 and there were wraps -- ramps 2016-08-06 13:36:10.658 and there were wraps -- ramps 2016-08-06 13:36:11.646 with interpreters lining the 2016-08-06 13:36:11.648 side of the road. 2016-08-06 13:36:11.649 Really, it is hard. 2016-08-06 13:36:11.659 with interpreters lining the 2016-08-06 13:36:11.661 side of the road. 2016-08-06 13:36:11.662 Really, it is hard. 2016-08-06 13:36:14.646 You have to have perseverance 2016-08-06 13:36:14.648 and keep going. 2016-08-06 13:36:14.66 You have to have perseverance 2016-08-06 13:36:14.662 and keep going. 2016-08-06 13:36:15.648 You have to have the motivation. 2016-08-06 13:36:15.661 You have to have the motivation. 2016-08-06 13:36:18.696 It makes me sad to see people 2016-08-06 13:36:18.697 who give up. 2016-08-06 13:36:18.709 It makes me sad to see people 2016-08-06 13:36:18.71 who give up. 2016-08-06 13:36:23.897 I know a lot of deaf individuals 2016-08-06 13:36:23.899 who veer off into something 2016-08-06 13:36:23.9 else. 2016-08-06 13:36:23.91 I know a lot of deaf individuals 2016-08-06 13:36:23.911 who veer off into something 2016-08-06 13:36:23.912 else. 2016-08-06 13:36:24.903 They have to get a job. 2016-08-06 13:36:24.916 They have to get a job. 2016-08-06 13:36:26.91 They have to go on with their 2016-08-06 13:36:26.911 life. 2016-08-06 13:36:26.923 They have to go on with their 2016-08-06 13:36:26.929 life. 2016-08-06 13:36:28.951 That makes me sad because 2016-08-06 13:36:28.964 That makes me sad because 2016-08-06 13:36:30.986 today's world was not designed 2016-08-06 13:36:30.987 for us. 2016-08-06 13:36:30.999 today's world was not designed 2016-08-06 13:36:31.001 for us. 2016-08-06 13:36:35.151 We might get there, like you 2016-08-06 13:36:35.161 We might get there, like you 2016-08-06 13:36:36.15 were saying, the pendulum and 2016-08-06 13:36:36.163 were saying, the pendulum and 2016-08-06 13:36:37.156 the rack keeps moving. 2016-08-06 13:36:37.17 the rack keeps moving. 2016-08-06 13:36:41.202 We might get there. 2016-08-06 13:36:41.203 But for now, we have to keep 2016-08-06 13:36:41.215 We might get there. 2016-08-06 13:36:41.217 But for now, we have to keep 2016-08-06 13:36:43.245 going in our dreams and keep the 2016-08-06 13:36:43.246 dream alive. 2016-08-06 13:36:43.259 going in our dreams and keep the 2016-08-06 13:36:43.26 dream alive. 2016-08-06 13:36:46.271 Beth: Let's talk a little bit 2016-08-06 13:36:46.284 Beth: Let's talk a little bit 2016-08-06 13:36:51.353 about deaf culture 2016-08-06 13:36:51.354 . 2016-08-06 13:36:51.367 about deaf culture 2016-08-06 13:36:51.367 . 2016-08-06 13:36:55.363 There is a term that has been 2016-08-06 13:36:55.377 There is a term that has been 2016-08-06 13:37:00.445 going around called "deaf 2016-08-06 13:37:00.458 going around called "deaf 2016-08-06 13:37:01.446 game." 2016-08-06 13:37:01.459 game." 2016-08-06 13:37:04.449 I think we can learn a lot about 2016-08-06 13:37:04.451 it for the rest of the 2016-08-06 13:37:04.453 disability community. 2016-08-06 13:37:04.463 I think we can learn a lot about 2016-08-06 13:37:04.464 it for the rest of the 2016-08-06 13:37:04.466 disability community. 2016-08-06 13:37:08.521 Explain what it is and how we 2016-08-06 13:37:08.535 Explain what it is and how we 2016-08-06 13:37:11.522 can apply to different parts of 2016-08-06 13:37:11.524 the disability world. 2016-08-06 13:37:11.536 can apply to different parts of 2016-08-06 13:37:11.537 the disability world. 2016-08-06 13:37:18.52 D.J.: Well, deaf 2016-08-06 13:37:18.533 D.J.: Well, deaf 2016-08-06 13:37:19.522 game is a play 2016-08-06 13:37:19.535 game is a play 2016-08-06 13:37:20.52 on words related to hearing 2016-08-06 13:37:20.522 loss. 2016-08-06 13:37:20.534 on words related to hearing 2016-08-06 13:37:20.535 loss. 2016-08-06 13:37:22.521 It is a reversal of hearing 2016-08-06 13:37:22.523 loss. 2016-08-06 13:37:22.534 It is a reversal of hearing 2016-08-06 13:37:22.536 loss. 2016-08-06 13:37:25.521 It is a reflection of something 2016-08-06 13:37:25.534 It is a reflection of something 2016-08-06 13:37:28.522 that is a benefit deaf people 2016-08-06 13:37:28.535 that is a benefit deaf people 2016-08-06 13:37:30.563 have over under -- other 2016-08-06 13:37:30.564 individuals. 2016-08-06 13:37:30.576 have over under -- other 2016-08-06 13:37:30.581 individuals. 2016-08-06 13:37:34.565 Because I don't have a 2016-08-06 13:37:34.567 microphone, I can express myself 2016-08-06 13:37:34.569 openly. 2016-08-06 13:37:34.579 Because I don't have a 2016-08-06 13:37:34.58 microphone, I can express myself 2016-08-06 13:37:34.582 openly. 2016-08-06 13:37:36.655 You can see all of my face. 2016-08-06 13:37:36.665 You can see all of my face. 2016-08-06 13:37:38.647 No offense to you. 2016-08-06 13:37:38.649 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 13:37:38.66 No offense to you. 2016-08-06 13:37:38.662 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 13:37:41.745 Because I am deaf, I am able to 2016-08-06 13:37:41.758 Because I am deaf, I am able to 2016-08-06 13:37:43.746 communicate at six months old 2016-08-06 13:37:43.748 with my parents. 2016-08-06 13:37:43.76 communicate at six months old 2016-08-06 13:37:43.761 with my parents. 2016-08-06 13:37:46.778 I could tell them I wanted milk. 2016-08-06 13:37:46.791 I could tell them I wanted milk. 2016-08-06 13:37:48.819 This is the sign for milk. 2016-08-06 13:37:48.832 This is the sign for milk. 2016-08-06 13:37:50.858 I had that advantage over 2016-08-06 13:37:50.859 hearing babies. 2016-08-06 13:37:50.871 I had that advantage over 2016-08-06 13:37:50.872 hearing babies. 2016-08-06 13:37:55.95 Because I am deaf, I have 2016-08-06 13:37:55.951 more 2016-08-06 13:37:55.953 ability to see in my peripheral 2016-08-06 13:37:55.963 Because I am deaf, I have 2016-08-06 13:37:55.964 more 2016-08-06 13:37:55.966 ability to see in my peripheral 2016-08-06 13:37:58.028 vision and see a powerful field 2016-08-06 13:37:58.041 vision and see a powerful field 2016-08-06 13:38:00.066 of peripheral vision more than 2016-08-06 13:38:00.079 of peripheral vision more than 2016-08-06 13:38:03.104 hearing people might notice or 2016-08-06 13:38:03.105 would tend to see. 2016-08-06 13:38:03.117 hearing people might notice or 2016-08-06 13:38:03.118 would tend to see. 2016-08-06 13:38:04.104 We are more sensitive. 2016-08-06 13:38:04.117 We are more sensitive. 2016-08-06 13:38:07.105 We rely on our eyes and I 2016-08-06 13:38:07.106 contact. 2016-08-06 13:38:07.119 We rely on our eyes and I 2016-08-06 13:38:07.12 contact. 2016-08-06 13:38:08.114 We are very visual people. 2016-08-06 13:38:08.127 We are very visual people. 2016-08-06 13:38:14.253 Our meetings tend to go very 2016-08-06 13:38:14.266 Our meetings tend to go very 2016-08-06 13:38:15.273 well because there is one person 2016-08-06 13:38:15.275 speaking at a time. 2016-08-06 13:38:15.287 well because there is one person 2016-08-06 13:38:15.289 speaking at a time. 2016-08-06 13:38:16.302 There is turn taking. 2016-08-06 13:38:16.315 There is turn taking. 2016-08-06 13:38:19.359 We require more collective 2016-08-06 13:38:19.36 effort. 2016-08-06 13:38:19.372 We require more collective 2016-08-06 13:38:19.373 effort. 2016-08-06 13:38:23.401 And collaboration in one room to 2016-08-06 13:38:23.414 And collaboration in one room to 2016-08-06 13:38:25.455 make sure everybody is in line 2016-08-06 13:38:25.468 make sure everybody is in line 2016-08-06 13:38:28.529 with what is going on. 2016-08-06 13:38:28.536 That process is effective. 2016-08-06 13:38:28.542 with what is going on. 2016-08-06 13:38:28.544 That process is effective. 2016-08-06 13:38:31.566 We have that advantage over 2016-08-06 13:38:31.579 We have that advantage over 2016-08-06 13:38:33.647 hearing individuals who run the 2016-08-06 13:38:33.649 same kind of meeting. 2016-08-06 13:38:33.661 hearing individuals who run the 2016-08-06 13:38:33.663 same kind of meeting. 2016-08-06 13:38:35.651 It could apply to other 2016-08-06 13:38:35.664 It could apply to other 2016-08-06 13:38:36.655 disabilities as well. 2016-08-06 13:38:36.668 disabilities as well. 2016-08-06 13:38:42.732 For example, sign language 2016-08-06 13:38:42.733 as a 2016-08-06 13:38:42.734 language is a blessing. 2016-08-06 13:38:42.746 For example, sign language 2016-08-06 13:38:42.747 as a 2016-08-06 13:38:42.748 language is a blessing. 2016-08-06 13:38:44.749 We feel fortunate to have it. 2016-08-06 13:38:44.762 We feel fortunate to have it. 2016-08-06 13:38:48.833 It is part of our rich community 2016-08-06 13:38:48.846 It is part of our rich community 2016-08-06 13:38:49.875 with a beautiful language 2016-08-06 13:38:49.888 with a beautiful language 2016-08-06 13:38:51.865 We enjoy and play with and it 2016-08-06 13:38:51.878 We enjoy and play with and it 2016-08-06 13:38:53.899 grows with us. 2016-08-06 13:38:53.901 That also applies to theater. 2016-08-06 13:38:53.912 grows with us. 2016-08-06 13:38:53.914 That also applies to theater. 2016-08-06 13:39:03.072 We feel like we 2016-08-06 13:39:03.073 -- it is just 2016-08-06 13:39:03.075 the tip of the iceberg. 2016-08-06 13:39:03.085 We feel like we 2016-08-06 13:39:03.086 -- it is just 2016-08-06 13:39:03.088 the tip of the iceberg. 2016-08-06 13:39:06.203 There is more to come. 2016-08-06 13:39:06.205 We will see it grow. 2016-08-06 13:39:06.217 There is more to come. 2016-08-06 13:39:06.218 We will see it grow. 2016-08-06 13:39:09.257 Hopefully, that community will 2016-08-06 13:39:09.27 Hopefully, that community will 2016-08-06 13:39:11.271 become more mainstream. 2016-08-06 13:39:11.284 become more mainstream. 2016-08-06 13:39:17.274 Does that get to the 2016-08-06 13:39:17.275 heart of 2016-08-06 13:39:17.276 what you wanted to ask me? 2016-08-06 13:39:17.287 Does that get to the 2016-08-06 13:39:17.288 heart of 2016-08-06 13:39:17.289 what you wanted to ask me? 2016-08-06 13:39:19.272 . 2016-08-06 13:39:19.286 . 2016-08-06 13:39:20.272 Beth: I think so. 2016-08-06 13:39:20.286 Beth: I think so. 2016-08-06 13:39:25.273 I was thinking about David's 2016-08-06 13:39:25.274 performance this morning that 2016-08-06 13:39:25.286 I was thinking about David's 2016-08-06 13:39:25.293 performance this morning that 2016-08-06 13:39:26.272 reveal the benefits to his 2016-08-06 13:39:26.285 reveal the benefits to his 2016-08-06 13:39:29.313 disability for certain roles he 2016-08-06 13:39:29.326 disability for certain roles he 2016-08-06 13:39:30.313 could have that involve someone 2016-08-06 13:39:30.326 could have that involve someone 2016-08-06 13:39:32.313 missing a hand. 2016-08-06 13:39:32.326 missing a hand. 2016-08-06 13:39:36.354 The often gruesome ways he can 2016-08-06 13:39:36.367 The often gruesome ways he can 2016-08-06 13:39:38.355 get roles and the benefit of 2016-08-06 13:39:38.356 that. 2016-08-06 13:39:38.368 get roles and the benefit of 2016-08-06 13:39:38.368 that. 2016-08-06 13:39:42.354 I was just referring to the 2016-08-06 13:39:42.356 sword. 2016-08-06 13:39:42.367 I was just referring to the 2016-08-06 13:39:42.369 sword. 2016-08-06 13:39:44.354 I still have that image in my 2016-08-06 13:39:44.367 I still have that image in my 2016-08-06 13:39:45.355 head. 2016-08-06 13:39:45.368 head. 2016-08-06 13:39:50.363 There are ways 2016-08-06 13:39:50.364 the disability 2016-08-06 13:39:50.366 can be of benefit. 2016-08-06 13:39:50.376 There are ways 2016-08-06 13:39:50.377 the disability 2016-08-06 13:39:50.379 can be of benefit. 2016-08-06 13:39:54.354 I think people need to take that 2016-08-06 13:39:54.356 forward. 2016-08-06 13:39:54.367 I think people need to take that 2016-08-06 13:39:54.369 forward. 2016-08-06 13:39:56.364 It brings me to my other 2016-08-06 13:39:56.377 It brings me to my other 2016-08-06 13:39:58.407 question I wanted to bring out. 2016-08-06 13:39:58.42 question I wanted to bring out. 2016-08-06 13:40:03.494 D.J. did 2016-08-06 13:40:03.495 a -- 2016-08-06 13:40:03.508 D.J. did 2016-08-06 13:40:03.508 a -- 2016-08-06 13:40:05.495 . 2016-08-06 13:40:05.508 . 2016-08-06 13:40:08.5 D.J.: Before you go on, I had 2016-08-06 13:40:08.502 one thing I wanted to add. 2016-08-06 13:40:08.514 D.J.: Before you go on, I had 2016-08-06 13:40:08.516 one thing I wanted to add. 2016-08-06 13:40:13.523 Because we are trying to 2016-08-06 13:40:13.525 communicate with our hearing 2016-08-06 13:40:13.536 Because we are trying to 2016-08-06 13:40:13.538 communicate with our hearing 2016-08-06 13:40:14.521 parents as children, I noticed 2016-08-06 13:40:14.535 parents as children, I noticed 2016-08-06 13:40:15.525 many deaf actors are great 2016-08-06 13:40:15.538 many deaf actors are great 2016-08-06 13:40:20.565 actors because they have a 2016-08-06 13:40:20.566 head 2016-08-06 13:40:20.568 start on acting things out, 2016-08-06 13:40:20.569 trying to get their needs met. 2016-08-06 13:40:20.578 actors because they have a 2016-08-06 13:40:20.579 head 2016-08-06 13:40:20.581 start on acting things out, 2016-08-06 13:40:20.583 trying to get their needs met. 2016-08-06 13:40:23.607 They want something to eat or 2016-08-06 13:40:23.62 They want something to eat or 2016-08-06 13:40:26.648 drink could that process of 2016-08-06 13:40:26.65 growing up with the body 2016-08-06 13:40:26.653 language is a Head Start for 2016-08-06 13:40:26.661 drink could that process of 2016-08-06 13:40:26.663 growing up with the body 2016-08-06 13:40:26.665 language is a Head Start for 2016-08-06 13:40:29.649 them overhearing performance. 2016-08-06 13:40:29.662 them overhearing performance. 2016-08-06 13:40:31.695 That is a generalization. 2016-08-06 13:40:31.708 That is a generalization. 2016-08-06 13:40:33.693 It is not all people. 2016-08-06 13:40:33.708 It is not all people. 2016-08-06 13:40:36.7 But in general, I think that is 2016-08-06 13:40:36.702 an advantage for us. 2016-08-06 13:40:36.713 But in general, I think that is 2016-08-06 13:40:36.715 an advantage for us. 2016-08-06 13:40:38.744 The other thing is that people 2016-08-06 13:40:38.757 The other thing is that people 2016-08-06 13:40:41.745 tend to wear our heart on our 2016-08-06 13:40:41.746 sleeve. 2016-08-06 13:40:41.758 tend to wear our heart on our 2016-08-06 13:40:41.759 sleeve. 2016-08-06 13:40:45.776 You have really got to 2016-08-06 13:40:45.777 communicate using your eyes and 2016-08-06 13:40:45.779 eye contact. 2016-08-06 13:40:45.79 You have really got to 2016-08-06 13:40:45.791 communicate using your eyes and 2016-08-06 13:40:45.793 eye contact. 2016-08-06 13:40:48.813 It is harder for us to lie. 2016-08-06 13:40:48.827 It is harder for us to lie. 2016-08-06 13:40:51.832 We have to maintain eye contact 2016-08-06 13:40:51.833 while we do it. 2016-08-06 13:40:51.845 We have to maintain eye contact 2016-08-06 13:40:51.847 while we do it. 2016-08-06 13:40:56.994 It is a talent we learn 2016-08-06 13:40:56.995 as how 2016-08-06 13:40:57.007 It is a talent we learn 2016-08-06 13:40:57.008 as how 2016-08-06 13:40:58.004 to communicate. 2016-08-06 13:40:58.006 It is a benefit for us on the 2016-08-06 13:40:58.007 stage. 2016-08-06 13:40:58.017 to communicate. 2016-08-06 13:40:58.019 It is a benefit for us on the 2016-08-06 13:40:58.02 stage. 2016-08-06 13:41:00.996 Beth: I had the idea of is not 2016-08-06 13:41:01.009 Beth: I had the idea of is not 2016-08-06 13:41:04.032 going to mention one of the 2016-08-06 13:41:04.045 going to mention one of the 2016-08-06 13:41:05.023 currently most famous deaf 2016-08-06 13:41:05.036 currently most famous deaf 2016-08-06 13:41:10.032 individuals because he has two 2016-08-06 13:41:10.04 individuals because he has two 2016-08-06 13:41:14.065 now he shows and one was for his 2016-08-06 13:41:14.067 work as a model. 2016-08-06 13:41:14.079 now he shows and one was for his 2016-08-06 13:41:14.08 work as a model. 2016-08-06 13:41:15.068 They were saying it is his eyes. 2016-08-06 13:41:15.08 They were saying it is his eyes. 2016-08-06 13:41:20.106 He has a piercing stare 2016-08-06 13:41:20.107 because 2016-08-06 13:41:20.119 He has a piercing stare 2016-08-06 13:41:20.12 because 2016-08-06 13:41:21.106 it is a visual language. 2016-08-06 13:41:21.119 it is a visual language. 2016-08-06 13:41:23.106 That has probably helped him. 2016-08-06 13:41:23.119 That has probably helped him. 2016-08-06 13:41:29.106 Also knowing how to 2016-08-06 13:41:29.107 use his 2016-08-06 13:41:29.109 facial expressions and working 2016-08-06 13:41:29.11 with his body. 2016-08-06 13:41:29.119 Also knowing how to 2016-08-06 13:41:29.12 use his 2016-08-06 13:41:29.122 facial expressions and working 2016-08-06 13:41:29.123 with his body. 2016-08-06 13:41:32.111 I can see that also as a benefit 2016-08-06 13:41:32.112 for actors. 2016-08-06 13:41:32.124 I can see that also as a benefit 2016-08-06 13:41:32.125 for actors. 2016-08-06 13:41:36.106 I won't mention that again. 2016-08-06 13:41:36.119 I won't mention that again. 2016-08-06 13:41:38.106 D.J.: It is true. 2016-08-06 13:41:38.12 D.J.: It is true. 2016-08-06 13:41:40.149 The deaf community loves him. 2016-08-06 13:41:40.162 The deaf community loves him. 2016-08-06 13:41:42.149 Not because he is nice to look 2016-08-06 13:41:42.162 Not because he is nice to look 2016-08-06 13:41:47.157 at and has won 2016-08-06 13:41:47.158 all of these 2016-08-06 13:41:47.16 shows, but because he comes from 2016-08-06 13:41:47.166 at and has won all of these 2016-08-06 13:41:47.168 shows, but because he comes from 2016-08-06 13:41:50.199 a place of where he wants to 2016-08-06 13:41:50.212 a place of where he wants to 2016-08-06 13:41:52.25 help the deaf children and speak 2016-08-06 13:41:52.263 help the deaf children and speak 2016-08-06 13:41:53.244 about that on film. 2016-08-06 13:41:53.257 about that on film. 2016-08-06 13:41:58.259 He talks about that 2016-08-06 13:41:58.26 in his 2016-08-06 13:41:58.261 motivation and need for 2016-08-06 13:41:58.272 He talks about that 2016-08-06 13:41:58.273 in his 2016-08-06 13:41:58.274 motivation and need for 2016-08-06 13:42:00.323 educating deaf children and 2016-08-06 13:42:00.325 giving back to the community. 2016-08-06 13:42:00.336 educating deaf children and 2016-08-06 13:42:00.338 giving back to the community. 2016-08-06 13:42:03.361 The deaf community is in love 2016-08-06 13:42:03.362 with him for that. 2016-08-06 13:42:03.374 The deaf community is in love 2016-08-06 13:42:03.375 with him for that. 2016-08-06 13:42:06.357 Beth: he has done a lot. 2016-08-06 13:42:06.371 Beth: he has done a lot. 2016-08-06 13:42:08.401 D.J.: It is an important part of 2016-08-06 13:42:08.413 D.J.: It is an important part of 2016-08-06 13:42:09.398 the whole picture. 2016-08-06 13:42:09.411 the whole picture. 2016-08-06 13:42:12.401 Beth: He has done a lot to raise 2016-08-06 13:42:12.414 Beth: He has done a lot to raise 2016-08-06 13:42:15.398 awareness of ASL education. 2016-08-06 13:42:15.411 awareness of ASL education. 2016-08-06 13:42:18.402 The average person in our 2016-08-06 13:42:18.415 The average person in our 2016-08-06 13:42:20.399 country does not understand that 2016-08-06 13:42:20.412 country does not understand that 2016-08-06 13:42:23.399 if children do not learn ASL 2016-08-06 13:42:23.412 if children do not learn ASL 2016-08-06 13:42:24.406 from the earliest ages that they 2016-08-06 13:42:24.42 from the earliest ages that they 2016-08-06 13:42:27.4 cannot learn English as easily. 2016-08-06 13:42:27.412 cannot learn English as easily. 2016-08-06 13:42:30.4 Therefore, he is really 2016-08-06 13:42:30.402 advocating for that. 2016-08-06 13:42:30.413 Therefore, he is really 2016-08-06 13:42:30.415 advocating for that. 2016-08-06 13:42:32.449 I think that is really important 2016-08-06 13:42:32.451 for a lot of us to know. 2016-08-06 13:42:32.462 I think that is really important 2016-08-06 13:42:32.464 for a lot of us to know. 2016-08-06 13:42:35.451 The importance of early 2016-08-06 13:42:35.464 The importance of early 2016-08-06 13:42:37.448 childhood ASL education. 2016-08-06 13:42:37.461 childhood ASL education. 2016-08-06 13:42:38.45 D.J.: Yes. 2016-08-06 13:42:38.463 D.J.: Yes. 2016-08-06 13:42:42.501 Beth: I think we all need it 2016-08-06 13:42:42.503 because then we can enjoy these 2016-08-06 13:42:42.514 Beth: I think we all need it 2016-08-06 13:42:42.516 because then we can enjoy these 2016-08-06 13:42:46.576 types of productions and have 2016-08-06 13:42:46.578 more meaningful conversations. 2016-08-06 13:42:46.589 types of productions and have 2016-08-06 13:42:46.591 more meaningful conversations. 2016-08-06 13:42:50.653 I also wanted to mention along 2016-08-06 13:42:50.666 I also wanted to mention along 2016-08-06 13:42:55.65 those same lines, your TEDx 2016-08-06 13:42:55.651 Broadway talk. 2016-08-06 13:42:55.663 those same lines, your TEDx 2016-08-06 13:42:55.664 Broadway talk. 2016-08-06 13:42:58.653 "Our limitations are our 2016-08-06 13:42:58.666 "Our limitations are our 2016-08-06 13:42:59.693 superpowers." 2016-08-06 13:42:59.706 superpowers." 2016-08-06 13:43:03.743 I know we got into that a bit 2016-08-06 13:43:03.757 I know we got into that a bit 2016-08-06 13:43:05.745 with the deaf game conversation. 2016-08-06 13:43:05.758 with the deaf game conversation. 2016-08-06 13:43:10.745 Do you have anything else on 2016-08-06 13:43:10.747 what you mean by that and how 2016-08-06 13:43:10.758 Do you have anything else on 2016-08-06 13:43:10.76 what you mean by that and how 2016-08-06 13:43:11.772 that can play into your work? 2016-08-06 13:43:11.786 that can play into your work? 2016-08-06 13:43:18.863 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:43:18.864 I think in that top, I was 2016-08-06 13:43:18.876 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:43:18.882 I think in that top, I was 2016-08-06 13:43:19.899 talking about the process of 2016-08-06 13:43:19.914 talking about the process of 2016-08-06 13:43:21.908 rehearsal and bringing in 2016-08-06 13:43:21.922 rehearsal and bringing in 2016-08-06 13:43:23.996 hearing actors and how they come 2016-08-06 13:43:24.009 hearing actors and how they come 2016-08-06 13:43:26.03 into that process and start 2016-08-06 13:43:26.043 into that process and start 2016-08-06 13:43:27.032 learning sign language and 2016-08-06 13:43:27.045 learning sign language and 2016-08-06 13:43:31.074 having full icon at the less 2016-08-06 13:43:31.087 having full icon at the less 2016-08-06 13:43:33.112 full eye contact and becoming 2016-08-06 13:43:33.114 aware of the room and 2016-08-06 13:43:33.115 communication. 2016-08-06 13:43:33.125 full eye contact and becoming 2016-08-06 13:43:33.127 aware of the room and 2016-08-06 13:43:33.128 communication. 2016-08-06 13:43:35.153 That helps them become better 2016-08-06 13:43:35.154 actors. 2016-08-06 13:43:35.166 That helps them become better 2016-08-06 13:43:35.167 actors. 2016-08-06 13:43:38.15 By way of doing that, we really 2016-08-06 13:43:38.163 By way of doing that, we really 2016-08-06 13:43:40.149 advance the field. 2016-08-06 13:43:40.163 advance the field. 2016-08-06 13:43:42.151 I cannot tell you how many 2016-08-06 13:43:42.164 I cannot tell you how many 2016-08-06 13:43:44.15 famous actors that have worked 2016-08-06 13:43:44.163 famous actors that have worked 2016-08-06 13:43:47.151 with Deaf West and are also 2016-08-06 13:43:47.153 talking about that. 2016-08-06 13:43:47.164 with Deaf West and are also 2016-08-06 13:43:47.165 talking about that. 2016-08-06 13:43:49.163 They have mentioned how 2016-08-06 13:43:49.176 They have mentioned how 2016-08-06 13:43:51.15 enriching that expense was to 2016-08-06 13:43:51.163 enriching that expense was to 2016-08-06 13:43:55.152 making them better -- experience 2016-08-06 13:43:55.154 was to making the better actors 2016-08-06 13:43:55.156 and people in general. 2016-08-06 13:43:55.165 making them better -- experience 2016-08-06 13:43:55.167 was to making the better actors 2016-08-06 13:43:55.169 and people in general. 2016-08-06 13:43:57.192 That is a beautiful thing. 2016-08-06 13:43:57.205 That is a beautiful thing. 2016-08-06 13:44:00.195 Not just that we benefit as the 2016-08-06 13:44:00.208 Not just that we benefit as the 2016-08-06 13:44:01.194 deaf community, but also we are 2016-08-06 13:44:01.207 deaf community, but also we are 2016-08-06 13:44:03.276 affecting the community at large 2016-08-06 13:44:03.289 affecting the community at large 2016-08-06 13:44:05.274 and advancing the whole art form 2016-08-06 13:44:05.276 as a whole. 2016-08-06 13:44:05.287 and advancing the whole art form 2016-08-06 13:44:05.289 as a whole. 2016-08-06 13:44:07.274 Beth: Great. 2016-08-06 13:44:07.29 Beth: Great. 2016-08-06 13:44:14.317 We are running up to the point 2016-08-06 13:44:14.33 We are running up to the point 2016-08-06 13:44:16.315 where we would have some Q&A. 2016-08-06 13:44:16.327 where we would have some Q&A. 2016-08-06 13:44:18.377 Is there anything else you 2016-08-06 13:44:18.387 Is there anything else you 2016-08-06 13:44:19.401 wanted to talk about? 2016-08-06 13:44:19.414 wanted to talk about? 2016-08-06 13:44:21.444 D.J.: The more questions, the 2016-08-06 13:44:21.445 better. 2016-08-06 13:44:21.457 D.J.: The more questions, the 2016-08-06 13:44:21.459 better. 2016-08-06 13:44:23.446 This has been important for me. 2016-08-06 13:44:23.459 This has been important for me. 2016-08-06 13:44:25.444 I think it is important to have 2016-08-06 13:44:25.457 I think it is important to have 2016-08-06 13:44:28.442 a dialogue instead of me 2016-08-06 13:44:28.455 a dialogue instead of me 2016-08-06 13:44:29.442 lecturing on the stage. 2016-08-06 13:44:29.455 lecturing on the stage. 2016-08-06 13:44:31.444 We are concerned with the larger 2016-08-06 13:44:31.445 picture here. 2016-08-06 13:44:31.457 We are concerned with the larger 2016-08-06 13:44:31.458 picture here. 2016-08-06 13:44:34.443 The big picture of performing 2016-08-06 13:44:34.456 The big picture of performing 2016-08-06 13:44:35.443 with a disability. 2016-08-06 13:44:35.456 with a disability. 2016-08-06 13:44:37.445 That is what we really want to 2016-08-06 13:44:37.446 discuss. 2016-08-06 13:44:37.458 That is what we really want to 2016-08-06 13:44:37.459 discuss. 2016-08-06 13:44:40.494 That is what we want to be able 2016-08-06 13:44:40.495 to achieve as a whole. 2016-08-06 13:44:40.507 That is what we want to be able 2016-08-06 13:44:40.509 to achieve as a whole. 2016-08-06 13:44:43.526 For me, that is the question. 2016-08-06 13:44:43.539 For me, that is the question. 2016-08-06 13:44:46.567 We want to keep it going and 2016-08-06 13:44:46.569 keep that dialogue open. 2016-08-06 13:44:46.58 We want to keep it going and 2016-08-06 13:44:46.582 keep that dialogue open. 2016-08-06 13:44:48.607 Beth: OK. 2016-08-06 13:44:48.619 Beth: OK. 2016-08-06 13:44:51.608 Before we move on, I wanted to 2016-08-06 13:44:51.621 Before we move on, I wanted to 2016-08-06 13:44:54.619 point out we handed out on the 2016-08-06 13:44:54.632 point out we handed out on the 2016-08-06 13:44:59.694 tables a handout 2016-08-06 13:44:59.695 from an online 2016-08-06 13:44:59.708 tables a handout 2016-08-06 13:44:59.709 from an online 2016-08-06 13:45:03.697 dialogue the N.E.A. had in 2016-08-06 13:45:03.699 conjunction with the Labor 2016-08-06 13:45:03.71 dialogue the N.E.A. had in 2016-08-06 13:45:03.712 conjunction with the Labor 2016-08-06 13:45:05.744 Department and national arts and 2016-08-06 13:45:05.76 Department and national arts and 2016-08-06 13:45:07.743 disability center, an online 2016-08-06 13:45:07.756 disability center, an online 2016-08-06 13:45:10.745 dialogue on careers in the arts 2016-08-06 13:45:10.747 for people with disabilities. 2016-08-06 13:45:10.758 dialogue on careers in the arts 2016-08-06 13:45:10.76 for people with disabilities. 2016-08-06 13:45:13.775 We had this in June. 2016-08-06 13:45:13.788 We had this in June. 2016-08-06 13:45:14.774 It was a two-weeklong dialogue. 2016-08-06 13:45:14.787 It was a two-weeklong dialogue. 2016-08-06 13:45:18.773 Around 400 people participated 2016-08-06 13:45:18.786 Around 400 people participated 2016-08-06 13:45:19.78 posting over 100 unique ideas, 2016-08-06 13:45:19.795 posting over 100 unique ideas, 2016-08-06 13:45:23.781 numerous comments, to talk about 2016-08-06 13:45:23.783 what the issues are, the 2016-08-06 13:45:23.795 numerous comments, to talk about 2016-08-06 13:45:23.797 what the issues are, the 2016-08-06 13:45:26.9 barriers, the things people can 2016-08-06 13:45:26.913 barriers, the things people can 2016-08-06 13:45:28.948 work on to remove barriers and 2016-08-06 13:45:28.961 work on to remove barriers and 2016-08-06 13:45:30.946 create more opportunities for 2016-08-06 13:45:30.959 create more opportunities for 2016-08-06 13:45:34.994 people in the arts, people with 2016-08-06 13:45:34.995 disabilities wanting to work in 2016-08-06 13:45:35.006 people in the arts, people with 2016-08-06 13:45:35.008 disabilities wanting to work in 2016-08-06 13:45:37.993 the arts weather as artists, 2016-08-06 13:45:38.006 the arts weather as artists, 2016-08-06 13:45:38.997 administrators, or other roles. 2016-08-06 13:45:39.01 administrators, or other roles. 2016-08-06 13:45:40.996 Take a look at this. 2016-08-06 13:45:41.009 Take a look at this. 2016-08-06 13:45:44.004 We have large print copies. 2016-08-06 13:45:44.017 We have large print copies. 2016-08-06 13:45:46.076 I can e-mail those to anyone who 2016-08-06 13:45:46.077 needs an electronic copy. 2016-08-06 13:45:46.089 I can e-mail those to anyone who 2016-08-06 13:45:46.091 needs an electronic copy. 2016-08-06 13:45:50.157 Right now, we are developing a 2016-08-06 13:45:50.158 report. 2016-08-06 13:45:50.17 Right now, we are developing a 2016-08-06 13:45:50.171 report. 2016-08-06 13:45:52.192 We will be coming up with next 2016-08-06 13:45:52.204 We will be coming up with next 2016-08-06 13:45:55.192 steps for what we can do to 2016-08-06 13:45:55.194 continue the dialogue. 2016-08-06 13:45:55.205 steps for what we can do to 2016-08-06 13:45:55.207 continue the dialogue. 2016-08-06 13:45:57.194 Please let me know if you have 2016-08-06 13:45:57.196 questions about that. 2016-08-06 13:45:57.208 Please let me know if you have 2016-08-06 13:45:57.21 questions about that. 2016-08-06 13:45:59.198 I guess we will open it up for 2016-08-06 13:45:59.199 questions. 2016-08-06 13:45:59.211 I guess we will open it up for 2016-08-06 13:45:59.212 questions. 2016-08-06 13:46:06.242 >> Hello. 2016-08-06 13:46:06.255 >> Hello. 2016-08-06 13:46:08.243 My name is Jackie. 2016-08-06 13:46:08.256 My name is Jackie. 2016-08-06 13:46:14.246 I am curious if you can 2016-08-06 13:46:14.247 speak 2016-08-06 13:46:14.259 I am curious if you can 2016-08-06 13:46:14.26 speak 2016-08-06 13:46:15.247 about what the lobby experience 2016-08-06 13:46:15.248 is like in these shows. 2016-08-06 13:46:15.26 about what the lobby experience 2016-08-06 13:46:15.261 is like in these shows. 2016-08-06 13:46:18.248 For our shows where we have ASL 2016-08-06 13:46:18.25 interpretation, we find our 2016-08-06 13:46:18.261 For our shows where we have ASL 2016-08-06 13:46:18.263 interpretation, we find our 2016-08-06 13:46:20.244 audience is very segregated in 2016-08-06 13:46:20.257 audience is very segregated in 2016-08-06 13:46:21.242 the lobby. 2016-08-06 13:46:21.255 the lobby. 2016-08-06 13:46:25.294 We have those who can speak ASL 2016-08-06 13:46:25.295 and those who cannot. 2016-08-06 13:46:25.306 We have those who can speak ASL 2016-08-06 13:46:25.308 and those who cannot. 2016-08-06 13:46:29.295 We have tried to integrate our 2016-08-06 13:46:29.297 audience for those shows and get 2016-08-06 13:46:29.308 We have tried to integrate our 2016-08-06 13:46:29.31 audience for those shows and get 2016-08-06 13:46:30.293 people to make a new friend at 2016-08-06 13:46:30.306 people to make a new friend at 2016-08-06 13:46:32.337 the theater by bringing in 2016-08-06 13:46:32.35 the theater by bringing in 2016-08-06 13:46:36.4 volunteers who can speak ASL so 2016-08-06 13:46:36.402 they can meet a new friend and 2016-08-06 13:46:36.413 volunteers who can speak ASL so 2016-08-06 13:46:36.415 they can meet a new friend and 2016-08-06 13:46:37.402 have somebody there who can 2016-08-06 13:46:37.415 have somebody there who can 2016-08-06 13:46:38.4 speak to them. 2016-08-06 13:46:38.413 speak to them. 2016-08-06 13:46:40.402 I am curious if there are other 2016-08-06 13:46:40.415 I am curious if there are other 2016-08-06 13:46:42.401 things we could take as 2016-08-06 13:46:42.414 things we could take as 2016-08-06 13:46:44.405 immediate best practice. 2016-08-06 13:46:44.419 immediate best practice. 2016-08-06 13:46:47.402 The you find your audience stays 2016-08-06 13:46:47.403 segregated? 2016-08-06 13:46:47.415 The you find your audience stays 2016-08-06 13:46:47.416 segregated? 2016-08-06 13:46:49.441 How does that work? 2016-08-06 13:46:49.454 How does that work? 2016-08-06 13:46:53.452 D.J.: I think it is very 2016-08-06 13:46:53.465 D.J.: I think it is very 2016-08-06 13:47:00.614 challenging to create 2016-08-06 13:47:00.615 an organic 2016-08-06 13:47:00.627 challenging to create 2016-08-06 13:47:00.628 an organic 2016-08-06 13:47:01.622 environment where the hearing 2016-08-06 13:47:01.623 and deaf people can mingle 2016-08-06 13:47:01.624 together. 2016-08-06 13:47:01.635 environment where the hearing 2016-08-06 13:47:01.637 and deaf people can mingle 2016-08-06 13:47:01.638 together. 2016-08-06 13:47:04.753 They are separated by language. 2016-08-06 13:47:04.766 They are separated by language. 2016-08-06 13:47:10.861 But at Deaf West, 2016-08-06 13:47:10.862 we do try to 2016-08-06 13:47:10.864 do some games, different 2016-08-06 13:47:10.874 But at Deaf West, 2016-08-06 13:47:10.875 we do try to 2016-08-06 13:47:10.877 do some games, different 2016-08-06 13:47:14.861 exercises, charades. 2016-08-06 13:47:14.874 exercises, charades. 2016-08-06 13:47:19.87 That kind of 2016-08-06 13:47:19.871 experience where it 2016-08-06 13:47:19.883 That kind of 2016-08-06 13:47:19.884 experience where it 2016-08-06 13:47:21.915 forces people to step out of 2016-08-06 13:47:21.916 their comfort level. 2016-08-06 13:47:21.928 forces people to step out of 2016-08-06 13:47:21.929 their comfort level. 2016-08-06 13:47:27.056 Before our 2016-08-06 13:47:27.057 shows, we have ASL 2016-08-06 13:47:27.058 classes. 2016-08-06 13:47:27.069 Before our 2016-08-06 13:47:27.07 shows, we have ASL 2016-08-06 13:47:27.071 classes. 2016-08-06 13:47:31.069 We also invite the deaf audience 2016-08-06 13:47:31.071 members to join in with me as 2016-08-06 13:47:31.072 the instructor. 2016-08-06 13:47:31.082 We also invite the deaf audience 2016-08-06 13:47:31.084 members to join in with me as 2016-08-06 13:47:31.085 the instructor. 2016-08-06 13:47:34.068 We bring them up to help me. 2016-08-06 13:47:34.081 We bring them up to help me. 2016-08-06 13:47:37.069 We don't have a spoken 2016-08-06 13:47:37.082 We don't have a spoken 2016-08-06 13:47:40.068 interpreter or anything like 2016-08-06 13:47:40.07 that in our ASL classes. 2016-08-06 13:47:40.081 interpreter or anything like 2016-08-06 13:47:40.083 that in our ASL classes. 2016-08-06 13:47:44.07 It is all written. 2016-08-06 13:47:44.072 Body language, communication. 2016-08-06 13:47:44.083 It is all written. 2016-08-06 13:47:44.085 Body language, communication. 2016-08-06 13:47:46.109 It is a fun experience. 2016-08-06 13:47:46.122 It is a fun experience. 2016-08-06 13:47:48.111 That tends to break the ice a 2016-08-06 13:47:48.113 little coming in. 2016-08-06 13:47:48.125 That tends to break the ice a 2016-08-06 13:47:48.126 little coming in. 2016-08-06 13:47:51.112 If we just tried to stick two 2016-08-06 13:47:51.125 If we just tried to stick two 2016-08-06 13:47:53.112 people together with an 2016-08-06 13:47:53.125 people together with an 2016-08-06 13:47:56.112 interpreting student, it would 2016-08-06 13:47:56.113 probably be hard to make that 2016-08-06 13:47:56.115 happen. 2016-08-06 13:47:56.125 interpreting student, it would 2016-08-06 13:47:56.131 probably be hard to make that 2016-08-06 13:47:56.132 happen. 2016-08-06 13:48:01.114 First of all, as deaf people, we 2016-08-06 13:48:01.116 come to the theater to enjoy 2016-08-06 13:48:01.121 ourselves. 2016-08-06 13:48:01.127 First of all, as deaf people, we 2016-08-06 13:48:01.129 come to the theater to enjoy 2016-08-06 13:48:01.13 ourselves. 2016-08-06 13:48:04.151 Often, that experience I have to 2016-08-06 13:48:04.164 Often, that experience I have to 2016-08-06 13:48:07.152 now deal with a hearing person. 2016-08-06 13:48:07.165 now deal with a hearing person. 2016-08-06 13:48:11.154 I have enough going on to adding 2016-08-06 13:48:11.155 that on top every day. 2016-08-06 13:48:11.166 I have enough going on to adding 2016-08-06 13:48:11.168 that on top every day. 2016-08-06 13:48:15.154 We have come to the experience 2016-08-06 13:48:15.155 to enjoy ourselves. 2016-08-06 13:48:15.167 We have come to the experience 2016-08-06 13:48:15.169 to enjoy ourselves. 2016-08-06 13:48:18.153 There is that balance. 2016-08-06 13:48:18.155 We recognize the politics of the 2016-08-06 13:48:18.156 give and take. 2016-08-06 13:48:18.166 There is that balance. 2016-08-06 13:48:18.168 We recognize the politics of the 2016-08-06 13:48:18.169 give and take. 2016-08-06 13:48:22.152 Beth: I want to put in a plug 2016-08-06 13:48:22.165 Beth: I want to put in a plug 2016-08-06 13:48:23.153 for hiring deaf people on your 2016-08-06 13:48:23.166 for hiring deaf people on your 2016-08-06 13:48:24.151 staff. 2016-08-06 13:48:24.164 staff. 2016-08-06 13:48:27.154 I know I am probably preaching 2016-08-06 13:48:27.166 I know I am probably preaching 2016-08-06 13:48:29.198 to the choir here. 2016-08-06 13:48:29.211 to the choir here. 2016-08-06 13:48:31.243 But at the N.E.A., we have had 2016-08-06 13:48:31.256 But at the N.E.A., we have had 2016-08-06 13:48:33.241 deaf interns. 2016-08-06 13:48:33.254 deaf interns. 2016-08-06 13:48:35.244 There are lots of way to 2016-08-06 13:48:35.257 There are lots of way to 2016-08-06 13:48:36.242 communicate with technology 2016-08-06 13:48:36.255 communicate with technology 2016-08-06 13:48:37.245 today. 2016-08-06 13:48:37.258 today. 2016-08-06 13:48:40.242 They can provide more insight 2016-08-06 13:48:40.255 They can provide more insight 2016-08-06 13:48:42.242 into what audience members need. 2016-08-06 13:48:42.255 into what audience members need. 2016-08-06 13:48:45.294 There are a lot of 2016-08-06 13:48:45.295 accommodations. 2016-08-06 13:48:45.307 There are a lot of 2016-08-06 13:48:45.308 accommodations. 2016-08-06 13:48:51.362 I want to mention 2016-08-06 13:48:51.375 I want to mention 2016-08-06 13:48:52.382 -- I don't 2016-08-06 13:48:52.384 want to single her out too much. 2016-08-06 13:48:52.395 -- I don't 2016-08-06 13:48:52.403 want to single her out too much. 2016-08-06 13:48:56.401 We have a person hear from "Dog 2016-08-06 13:48:56.414 We have a person hear from "Dog 2016-08-06 13:48:59.403 and Pony." 2016-08-06 13:48:59.416 and Pony." 2016-08-06 13:49:01.403 I forget the name of it. 2016-08-06 13:49:01.416 I forget the name of it. 2016-08-06 13:49:07.542 You have these ASL 2016-08-06 13:49:07.555 You have these ASL 2016-08-06 13:49:09.541 chats -- ASL 2016-08-06 13:49:09.554 chats -- ASL 2016-08-06 13:49:12.544 pickup where people can learn 2016-08-06 13:49:12.557 pickup where people can learn 2016-08-06 13:49:13.541 sign. 2016-08-06 13:49:13.554 sign. 2016-08-06 13:49:19.569 We have the benefit 2016-08-06 13:49:19.57 of having 2016-08-06 13:49:19.571 that at Yale University. 2016-08-06 13:49:19.582 We have the benefit 2016-08-06 13:49:19.583 of having 2016-08-06 13:49:19.585 that at Yale University. 2016-08-06 13:49:23.571 The neighborhoods around, the 2016-08-06 13:49:23.573 waiters at the restaurants and 2016-08-06 13:49:23.584 The neighborhoods around, the 2016-08-06 13:49:23.586 waiters at the restaurants and 2016-08-06 13:49:26.57 bars know at least some sign. 2016-08-06 13:49:26.583 bars know at least some sign. 2016-08-06 13:49:29.582 They want to be able to 2016-08-06 13:49:29.595 They want to be able to 2016-08-06 13:49:30.618 communicate with the students 2016-08-06 13:49:30.631 communicate with the students 2016-08-06 13:49:32.656 and faculty. 2016-08-06 13:49:32.669 and faculty. 2016-08-06 13:49:35.705 The more people become aware and 2016-08-06 13:49:35.719 The more people become aware and 2016-08-06 13:49:38.791 learn some sign, and I know I 2016-08-06 13:49:38.804 learn some sign, and I know I 2016-08-06 13:49:40.819 need to learn some, I also 2016-08-06 13:49:40.832 need to learn some, I also 2016-08-06 13:49:42.822 advocate you start with your 2016-08-06 13:49:42.834 advocate you start with your 2016-08-06 13:49:44.819 kids when they are really little 2016-08-06 13:49:44.821 because it is really hard when 2016-08-06 13:49:44.823 they are older. 2016-08-06 13:49:44.832 kids when they are really little 2016-08-06 13:49:44.834 because it is really hard when 2016-08-06 13:49:44.835 they are older. 2016-08-06 13:49:52.822 >> 2016-08-06 13:49:52.835 >> 2016-08-06 13:49:53.822 Before we get the microphone 2016-08-06 13:49:53.835 Before we get the microphone 2016-08-06 13:49:54.863 to anyone else, I am asking a 2016-08-06 13:49:54.864 question I want to ask. 2016-08-06 13:49:54.875 to anyone else, I am asking a 2016-08-06 13:49:54.877 question I want to ask. 2016-08-06 13:49:58.904 Since I am holding a microphone, 2016-08-06 13:49:58.906 I'm going to do it. 2016-08-06 13:49:58.918 Since I am holding a microphone, 2016-08-06 13:49:58.919 I'm going to do it. 2016-08-06 13:50:00.904 Totally rude, but I can do that 2016-08-06 13:50:00.917 Totally rude, but I can do that 2016-08-06 13:50:01.903 today. 2016-08-06 13:50:01.916 today. 2016-08-06 13:50:06.903 I did not have a chance to see 2016-08-06 13:50:06.916 I did not have a chance to see 2016-08-06 13:50:07.904 "Spring Awakening" on Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:50:07.917 "Spring Awakening" on Broadway. 2016-08-06 13:50:09.905 But every time I watch the 2016-08-06 13:50:09.918 But every time I watch the 2016-08-06 13:50:13.902 segment I have seen online, I am 2016-08-06 13:50:13.915 segment I have seen online, I am 2016-08-06 13:50:16.942 blown away by the depth of it 2016-08-06 13:50:16.955 blown away by the depth of it 2016-08-06 13:50:18.944 because I see interviews with 2016-08-06 13:50:18.957 because I see interviews with 2016-08-06 13:50:19.991 the cast. 2016-08-06 13:50:20.005 the cast. 2016-08-06 13:50:22.992 I want to take a moment to point 2016-08-06 13:50:23.005 I want to take a moment to point 2016-08-06 13:50:26.994 out You have two extraordinarily 2016-08-06 13:50:26.996 competent actors playing the 2016-08-06 13:50:27.007 out You have two extraordinarily 2016-08-06 13:50:27.009 competent actors playing the 2016-08-06 13:50:27.992 same role on the stage at the 2016-08-06 13:50:28.006 same role on the stage at the 2016-08-06 13:50:28.991 same time. 2016-08-06 13:50:29.004 same time. 2016-08-06 13:50:32.041 There is a level of ego 2016-08-06 13:50:32.054 There is a level of ego 2016-08-06 13:50:35.04 management involved in that that 2016-08-06 13:50:35.053 management involved in that that 2016-08-06 13:50:36.043 kind of blows my mind. 2016-08-06 13:50:36.056 kind of blows my mind. 2016-08-06 13:50:39.042 The thing that I saw in the cast 2016-08-06 13:50:39.055 The thing that I saw in the cast 2016-08-06 13:50:42.042 interviews and on stage was that 2016-08-06 13:50:42.055 interviews and on stage was that 2016-08-06 13:50:44.043 everybody got along, and it was 2016-08-06 13:50:44.056 everybody got along, and it was 2016-08-06 13:50:45.04 tight. 2016-08-06 13:50:45.053 tight. 2016-08-06 13:50:47.045 You did not just have people 2016-08-06 13:50:47.046 working together. 2016-08-06 13:50:47.058 You did not just have people 2016-08-06 13:50:47.059 working together. 2016-08-06 13:50:52.071 You created a community 2016-08-06 13:50:52.072 and 2016-08-06 13:50:52.074 family in many ways. 2016-08-06 13:50:52.084 You created a community 2016-08-06 13:50:52.085 and 2016-08-06 13:50:52.087 family in many ways. 2016-08-06 13:50:54.074 I think that is the theater 2016-08-06 13:50:54.088 I think that is the theater 2016-08-06 13:50:56.111 experience actors want. 2016-08-06 13:50:56.124 experience actors want. 2016-08-06 13:51:01.153 I was 2016-08-06 13:51:01.166 I was 2016-08-06 13:51:02.153 wondering if you could 2016-08-06 13:51:02.155 talk a little bit about this 2016-08-06 13:51:02.166 wondering if you could 2016-08-06 13:51:02.168 talk a little bit about this 2016-08-06 13:51:06.194 process of creating a family 2016-08-06 13:51:06.207 process of creating a family 2016-08-06 13:51:07.194 where the deaf people are the 2016-08-06 13:51:07.207 where the deaf people are the 2016-08-06 13:51:10.194 center and the power. 2016-08-06 13:51:10.207 center and the power. 2016-08-06 13:51:12.201 And you are bringing the hearing 2016-08-06 13:51:12.209 And you are bringing the hearing 2016-08-06 13:51:15.196 actors into your world. 2016-08-06 13:51:15.208 actors into your world. 2016-08-06 13:51:18.242 And doing it by the way in a way 2016-08-06 13:51:18.254 And doing it by the way in a way 2016-08-06 13:51:19.242 that is so beautiful it makes me 2016-08-06 13:51:19.243 cry. 2016-08-06 13:51:19.254 that is so beautiful it makes me 2016-08-06 13:51:19.256 cry. 2016-08-06 13:51:23.243 I am kind of a fan girl seat and 2016-08-06 13:51:23.244 let that go. 2016-08-06 13:51:23.255 I am kind of a fan girl seat and 2016-08-06 13:51:23.257 let that go. 2016-08-06 13:51:28.241 I wanted you to talk a little 2016-08-06 13:51:28.243 bit about that. 2016-08-06 13:51:28.244 What that is like. 2016-08-06 13:51:28.255 I wanted you to talk a little 2016-08-06 13:51:28.256 bit about that. 2016-08-06 13:51:28.258 What that is like. 2016-08-06 13:51:36.302 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:51:36.315 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:51:38.325 Well, we just have 2016-08-06 13:51:38.326 a 2016-08-06 13:51:38.328 question asking about the 2016-08-06 13:51:38.329 organic environments and how 2016-08-06 13:51:38.331 that happens. 2016-08-06 13:51:38.338 Well, we just have 2016-08-06 13:51:38.339 a 2016-08-06 13:51:38.341 question asking about the 2016-08-06 13:51:38.342 organic environments and how 2016-08-06 13:51:38.344 that happens. 2016-08-06 13:51:43.404 Really, it is the 2016-08-06 13:51:43.405 environment of 2016-08-06 13:51:43.406 everybody wanting to make good 2016-08-06 13:51:43.417 Really, it is the 2016-08-06 13:51:43.418 environment of 2016-08-06 13:51:43.419 everybody wanting to make good 2016-08-06 13:51:44.404 art. 2016-08-06 13:51:44.418 art. 2016-08-06 13:51:45.408 That is the number one 2016-08-06 13:51:45.409 motivation for being there. 2016-08-06 13:51:45.411 They are all actors. 2016-08-06 13:51:45.421 That is the number one 2016-08-06 13:51:45.422 motivation for being there. 2016-08-06 13:51:45.424 They are all actors. 2016-08-06 13:51:47.448 We have brought people in trying 2016-08-06 13:51:47.461 We have brought people in trying 2016-08-06 13:51:49.446 to improve their craft, that are 2016-08-06 13:51:49.459 to improve their craft, that are 2016-08-06 13:51:51.445 motivated, and they are quick 2016-08-06 13:51:51.457 motivated, and they are quick 2016-08-06 13:51:52.446 learners. 2016-08-06 13:51:52.459 learners. 2016-08-06 13:51:54.444 They are working with another 2016-08-06 13:51:54.458 They are working with another 2016-08-06 13:51:55.444 coworker. 2016-08-06 13:51:55.457 coworker. 2016-08-06 13:51:57.447 They have to talk about all 2016-08-06 13:51:57.448 those details. 2016-08-06 13:51:57.463 They have to talk about all 2016-08-06 13:51:57.465 those details. 2016-08-06 13:51:59.446 They have high standards for 2016-08-06 13:51:59.447 themselves. 2016-08-06 13:51:59.459 They have high standards for 2016-08-06 13:51:59.46 themselves. 2016-08-06 13:52:02.445 They want to make sure they are 2016-08-06 13:52:02.458 They want to make sure they are 2016-08-06 13:52:04.49 doing a good job on the stage. 2016-08-06 13:52:04.503 doing a good job on the stage. 2016-08-06 13:52:07.492 Throughout the process, it 2016-08-06 13:52:07.494 becomes natural. 2016-08-06 13:52:07.505 Throughout the process, it 2016-08-06 13:52:07.507 becomes natural. 2016-08-06 13:52:09.492 They naturally become family. 2016-08-06 13:52:09.505 They naturally become family. 2016-08-06 13:52:12.541 One other thing. 2016-08-06 13:52:12.554 One other thing. 2016-08-06 13:52:15.543 There's also a learning curve. 2016-08-06 13:52:15.556 There's also a learning curve. 2016-08-06 13:52:20.551 I think 2016-08-06 13:52:20.553 the number one thing as 2016-08-06 13:52:20.564 I think 2016-08-06 13:52:20.566 the number one thing as 2016-08-06 13:52:23.571 actors they learn is they have 2016-08-06 13:52:23.573 to let go of their ego. 2016-08-06 13:52:23.584 actors they learn is they have 2016-08-06 13:52:23.586 to let go of their ego. 2016-08-06 13:52:26.57 In the process of letting go of 2016-08-06 13:52:26.583 In the process of letting go of 2016-08-06 13:52:28.636 that, it is much easier. 2016-08-06 13:52:28.649 that, it is much easier. 2016-08-06 13:52:31.696 The harder part is the beginning 2016-08-06 13:52:31.697 of the curve. 2016-08-06 13:52:31.709 The harder part is the beginning 2016-08-06 13:52:31.71 of the curve. 2016-08-06 13:52:36.754 Once they get over the hump, 2016-08-06 13:52:36.767 Once they get over the hump, 2016-08-06 13:52:37.739 everything becomes natural. 2016-08-06 13:52:37.753 everything becomes natural. 2016-08-06 13:52:39.79 >> I am Sarah. 2016-08-06 13:52:39.804 >> I am Sarah. 2016-08-06 13:52:42.79 I also want to follow up to 2016-08-06 13:52:42.791 that. 2016-08-06 13:52:42.804 I also want to follow up to 2016-08-06 13:52:42.805 that. 2016-08-06 13:52:45.821 Whoever cast the show, I'm 2016-08-06 13:52:45.834 Whoever cast the show, I'm 2016-08-06 13:52:47.821 guessing they do that very well. 2016-08-06 13:52:47.834 guessing they do that very well. 2016-08-06 13:52:50.828 I don't know if that is you or 2016-08-06 13:52:50.841 I don't know if that is you or 2016-08-06 13:52:53.868 not, but I think that probably 2016-08-06 13:52:53.881 not, but I think that probably 2016-08-06 13:52:54.862 has a lot to do with it. 2016-08-06 13:52:54.875 has a lot to do with it. 2016-08-06 13:52:57.905 D.J.: Well, we actually have our 2016-08-06 13:52:57.918 D.J.: Well, we actually have our 2016-08-06 13:52:59.911 casting director and the 2016-08-06 13:52:59.912 artistic director. 2016-08-06 13:52:59.923 casting director and the 2016-08-06 13:52:59.925 artistic director. 2016-08-06 13:53:01.953 We have the team. 2016-08-06 13:53:01.965 We have the team. 2016-08-06 13:53:07.075 I think we are fortunate 2016-08-06 13:53:07.075 because 2016-08-06 13:53:07.077 people want to work with our 2016-08-06 13:53:07.087 I think we are fortunate 2016-08-06 13:53:07.088 because 2016-08-06 13:53:07.09 people want to work with our 2016-08-06 13:53:08.077 theater group. 2016-08-06 13:53:08.09 theater group. 2016-08-06 13:53:09.114 That helps. 2016-08-06 13:53:09.127 That helps. 2016-08-06 13:53:14.112 >> I have kind of a practical 2016-08-06 13:53:14.113 question. 2016-08-06 13:53:14.125 >> I have kind of a practical 2016-08-06 13:53:14.126 question. 2016-08-06 13:53:18.154 You mentioned on Broadway that 2016-08-06 13:53:18.156 you had to make some 2016-08-06 13:53:18.167 You mentioned on Broadway that 2016-08-06 13:53:18.169 you had to make some 2016-08-06 13:53:21.158 accommodations for your actors 2016-08-06 13:53:21.171 accommodations for your actors 2016-08-06 13:53:23.154 who used a wheelchair -- your 2016-08-06 13:53:23.167 who used a wheelchair -- your 2016-08-06 13:53:25.154 actress who used a wheelchair. 2016-08-06 13:53:25.167 actress who used a wheelchair. 2016-08-06 13:53:28.154 Maybe I misunderstood. 2016-08-06 13:53:28.167 Maybe I misunderstood. 2016-08-06 13:53:30.197 But it sounded like you said the 2016-08-06 13:53:30.199 production raised money and had 2016-08-06 13:53:30.21 But it sounded like you said the 2016-08-06 13:53:30.212 production raised money and had 2016-08-06 13:53:31.198 donors to make that possible. 2016-08-06 13:53:31.211 donors to make that possible. 2016-08-06 13:53:34.197 Did the production have to pay 2016-08-06 13:53:34.21 Did the production have to pay 2016-08-06 13:53:35.197 for those adjustments rather 2016-08-06 13:53:35.21 for those adjustments rather 2016-08-06 13:53:40.198 than those who own the theater 2016-08-06 13:53:40.211 than those who own the theater 2016-08-06 13:53:41.194 where the show was? 2016-08-06 13:53:41.207 where the show was? 2016-08-06 13:53:47.198 D.J.: no, 2016-08-06 13:53:47.199 yeah. 2016-08-06 13:53:47.211 D.J.: no, 2016-08-06 13:53:47.212 yeah. 2016-08-06 13:53:49.241 Don't ask me why. 2016-08-06 13:53:49.254 Don't ask me why. 2016-08-06 13:53:52.244 Broadway is very old-fashioned 2016-08-06 13:53:52.245 in that way. 2016-08-06 13:53:52.257 Broadway is very old-fashioned 2016-08-06 13:53:52.258 in that way. 2016-08-06 13:53:54.289 >> wow. 2016-08-06 13:53:54.302 >> wow. 2016-08-06 13:53:55.326 That blows my mind. 2016-08-06 13:53:55.339 That blows my mind. 2016-08-06 13:54:00.406 My other question is, 2016-08-06 13:54:00.407 when does 2016-08-06 13:54:00.409 the tour start and where is it 2016-08-06 13:54:00.419 My other question is, 2016-08-06 13:54:00.423 when does 2016-08-06 13:54:00.426 the tour start and where is it 2016-08-06 13:54:03.406 going and how do I make sure it 2016-08-06 13:54:03.419 going and how do I make sure it 2016-08-06 13:54:04.405 comes to Pittsburgh? 2016-08-06 13:54:04.418 comes to Pittsburgh? 2016-08-06 13:54:05.409 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 13:54:05.418 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 13:54:08.405 D.J.: I hope it does. 2016-08-06 13:54:08.418 D.J.: I hope it does. 2016-08-06 13:54:10.405 We are in the process of 2016-08-06 13:54:10.418 We are in the process of 2016-08-06 13:54:11.406 developing the tour. 2016-08-06 13:54:11.419 developing the tour. 2016-08-06 13:54:13.413 We are trying to figure out 2016-08-06 13:54:13.415 which cities. 2016-08-06 13:54:13.426 We are trying to figure out 2016-08-06 13:54:13.428 which cities. 2016-08-06 13:54:15.449 I saw Pittsburgh is on the list. 2016-08-06 13:54:15.463 I saw Pittsburgh is on the list. 2016-08-06 13:54:18.446 Beth: And Washington, D.C.? 2016-08-06 13:54:18.459 Beth: And Washington, D.C.? 2016-08-06 13:54:19.447 . 2016-08-06 13:54:19.46 . 2016-08-06 13:54:25.493 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:54:25.494 And the Kennedy Center, 2016-08-06 13:54:25.496 yes. 2016-08-06 13:54:25.507 D.J.: 2016-08-06 13:54:25.508 And the Kennedy Center, 2016-08-06 13:54:25.509 yes. 2016-08-06 13:54:30.542 >> Can I just say, 2016-08-06 13:54:30.544 Sally Conway 2016-08-06 13:54:30.555 >> Can I just say, 2016-08-06 13:54:30.556 Sally Conway 2016-08-06 13:54:31.54 runs the Department of Justice 2016-08-06 13:54:31.553 runs the Department of Justice 2016-08-06 13:54:34.543 civil rights division, A.D.A. 2016-08-06 13:54:34.556 civil rights division, A.D.A. 2016-08-06 13:54:35.54 enforcement provision. 2016-08-06 13:54:35.553 enforcement provision. 2016-08-06 13:54:39.541 I think maybe we have to sic her 2016-08-06 13:54:39.554 I think maybe we have to sic her 2016-08-06 13:54:41.572 on them. 2016-08-06 13:54:41.585 on them. 2016-08-06 13:54:43.615 >> My name is Claire. 2016-08-06 13:54:43.627 >> My name is Claire. 2016-08-06 13:54:45.617 You touched a little bit on this 2016-08-06 13:54:45.618 before. 2016-08-06 13:54:45.63 You touched a little bit on this 2016-08-06 13:54:45.631 before. 2016-08-06 13:54:50.613 I am curious to know what your 2016-08-06 13:54:50.626 I am curious to know what your 2016-08-06 13:54:51.615 selection process is like at 2016-08-06 13:54:51.628 selection process is like at 2016-08-06 13:54:54.616 Deaf West and things that excite 2016-08-06 13:54:54.629 Deaf West and things that excite 2016-08-06 13:54:56.615 you in theater and things you 2016-08-06 13:54:56.617 wish you would see more of. 2016-08-06 13:54:56.628 you in theater and things you 2016-08-06 13:54:56.629 wish you would see more of. 2016-08-06 13:55:02.614 D.J.: Well, 2016-08-06 13:55:02.615 both. 2016-08-06 13:55:02.627 D.J.: Well, 2016-08-06 13:55:02.628 both. 2016-08-06 13:55:07.623 I notice we tend to 2016-08-06 13:55:07.636 I notice we tend to 2016-08-06 13:55:08.658 pick shows 2016-08-06 13:55:08.671 pick shows 2016-08-06 13:55:09.701 that have meaning for the deaf 2016-08-06 13:55:09.714 that have meaning for the deaf 2016-08-06 13:55:11.748 community. 2016-08-06 13:55:11.761 community. 2016-08-06 13:55:15.837 For example, "Spring Awakening" 2016-08-06 13:55:15.846 For example, "Spring Awakening" 2016-08-06 13:55:16.866 is a show about communication. 2016-08-06 13:55:16.878 is a show about communication. 2016-08-06 13:55:19.874 I personally did not do that. 2016-08-06 13:55:19.887 I personally did not do that. 2016-08-06 13:55:22.948 But it hit me during the opening 2016-08-06 13:55:22.961 But it hit me during the opening 2016-08-06 13:55:23.947 scene where the mother has to 2016-08-06 13:55:23.96 scene where the mother has to 2016-08-06 13:55:26.995 explain to her deaf daughter 2016-08-06 13:55:27.008 explain to her deaf daughter 2016-08-06 13:55:28.996 about the birds and the bees 2016-08-06 13:55:29.009 about the birds and the bees 2016-08-06 13:55:30.991 that it is a very common 2016-08-06 13:55:31.003 that it is a very common 2016-08-06 13:55:32.992 experience in the deaf 2016-08-06 13:55:32.993 community. 2016-08-06 13:55:33.005 experience in the deaf 2016-08-06 13:55:33.006 community. 2016-08-06 13:55:36.996 Deaf girls don't find out about 2016-08-06 13:55:36.998 the birds and bees until much 2016-08-06 13:55:37.009 Deaf girls don't find out about 2016-08-06 13:55:37.011 the birds and bees until much 2016-08-06 13:55:38.052 later than most people. 2016-08-06 13:55:38.065 later than most people. 2016-08-06 13:55:41.04 We had to find a show that has 2016-08-06 13:55:41.053 We had to find a show that has 2016-08-06 13:55:45.072 some time to our -- some tie to 2016-08-06 13:55:45.085 some time to our -- some tie to 2016-08-06 13:55:49.074 our community but also stuff 2016-08-06 13:55:49.087 our community but also stuff 2016-08-06 13:55:51.12 that is fun to do, comedies, 2016-08-06 13:55:51.122 stuff that people will enjoy. 2016-08-06 13:55:51.133 that is fun to do, comedies, 2016-08-06 13:55:51.135 stuff that people will enjoy. 2016-08-06 13:55:54.116 We have an audience and we want 2016-08-06 13:55:54.118 to keep them coming back. 2016-08-06 13:55:54.129 We have an audience and we want 2016-08-06 13:55:54.131 to keep them coming back. 2016-08-06 13:55:57.114 We don't always want to have 2016-08-06 13:55:57.116 heavy, dramatic stories. 2016-08-06 13:55:57.127 We don't always want to have 2016-08-06 13:55:57.129 heavy, dramatic stories. 2016-08-06 13:55:58.126 We have to keep a balance. 2016-08-06 13:55:58.139 We have to keep a balance. 2016-08-06 13:56:02.127 We also have a huge children's 2016-08-06 13:56:02.14 We also have a huge children's 2016-08-06 13:56:07.128 audience so we tailor 2016-08-06 13:56:07.13 performances to children as 2016-08-06 13:56:07.131 well. 2016-08-06 13:56:07.141 audience so we tailor 2016-08-06 13:56:07.143 performances to children as 2016-08-06 13:56:07.144 well. 2016-08-06 13:56:09.199 We feel having a variety to pick 2016-08-06 13:56:09.212 We feel having a variety to pick 2016-08-06 13:56:11.203 from keeps the audience in mind. 2016-08-06 13:56:11.212 from keeps the audience in mind. 2016-08-06 13:56:17.197 >> Questions, 2016-08-06 13:56:17.198 anyone? 2016-08-06 13:56:17.21 >> Questions, 2016-08-06 13:56:17.211 anyone? 2016-08-06 13:56:23.198 >> 2016-08-06 13:56:23.211 >> 2016-08-06 13:56:25.29 I want to put in a plug for a 2016-08-06 13:56:25.303 I want to put in a plug for a 2016-08-06 13:56:28.393 few other elements of deaf 2016-08-06 13:56:28.406 few other elements of deaf 2016-08-06 13:56:29.416 culture and art. 2016-08-06 13:56:29.429 culture and art. 2016-08-06 13:56:33.458 When we talk about artist 2016-08-06 13:56:33.47 When we talk about artist 2016-08-06 13:56:36.541 residencies, the Edison Center 2016-08-06 13:56:36.554 residencies, the Edison Center 2016-08-06 13:56:38.575 in Minnesota has a residency for 2016-08-06 13:56:38.577 deaf artists. 2016-08-06 13:56:38.588 in Minnesota has a residency for 2016-08-06 13:56:38.589 deaf artists. 2016-08-06 13:56:41.581 It is primarily visual artists 2016-08-06 13:56:41.593 It is primarily visual artists 2016-08-06 13:56:44.619 and writers at this point. 2016-08-06 13:56:44.632 and writers at this point. 2016-08-06 13:56:46.623 I am not sure if they will open 2016-08-06 13:56:46.636 I am not sure if they will open 2016-08-06 13:56:47.628 it up to other types of artists. 2016-08-06 13:56:47.641 it up to other types of artists. 2016-08-06 13:56:50.702 Two years ago, they had a 2016-08-06 13:56:50.715 Two years ago, they had a 2016-08-06 13:56:54.742 handful of deaf, five or so. 2016-08-06 13:56:54.755 handful of deaf, five or so. 2016-08-06 13:56:56.794 This year, they had five. 2016-08-06 13:56:56.807 This year, they had five. 2016-08-06 13:56:57.832 They happened to be all women. 2016-08-06 13:56:57.845 They happened to be all women. 2016-08-06 13:57:01.922 The goal from my own perspective 2016-08-06 13:57:01.924 is it is great to have 2016-08-06 13:57:01.934 The goal from my own perspective 2016-08-06 13:57:01.935 is it is great to have 2016-08-06 13:57:06.957 integrated residency experiences 2016-08-06 13:57:06.958 where you have people with and 2016-08-06 13:57:06.959 without disabilities working 2016-08-06 13:57:06.96 together. 2016-08-06 13:57:06.97 integrated residency experiences 2016-08-06 13:57:06.971 where you have people with and 2016-08-06 13:57:06.973 without disabilities working 2016-08-06 13:57:06.974 together. 2016-08-06 13:57:10.041 For deaf artists, having an 2016-08-06 13:57:10.054 For deaf artists, having an 2016-08-06 13:57:12.041 opportunity for everybody 2016-08-06 13:57:12.054 opportunity for everybody 2016-08-06 13:57:14.04 speaking the same language and 2016-08-06 13:57:14.053 speaking the same language and 2016-08-06 13:57:15.043 they have the same culture. 2016-08-06 13:57:15.055 they have the same culture. 2016-08-06 13:57:17.05 I think those are wonderful 2016-08-06 13:57:17.059 I think those are wonderful 2016-08-06 13:57:18.073 experiences. 2016-08-06 13:57:18.086 experiences. 2016-08-06 13:57:20.074 They just had their second 2016-08-06 13:57:20.076 round. 2016-08-06 13:57:20.087 They just had their second 2016-08-06 13:57:20.088 round. 2016-08-06 13:57:22.073 Hopefully, they will continue 2016-08-06 13:57:22.073 that. 2016-08-06 13:57:22.086 Hopefully, they will continue 2016-08-06 13:57:22.087 that. 2016-08-06 13:57:27.074 The other is deaf architecture 2016-08-06 13:57:27.087 The other is deaf architecture 2016-08-06 13:57:28.073 and design. 2016-08-06 13:57:28.086 and design. 2016-08-06 13:57:32.073 I think I mentioned Gallaudet a 2016-08-06 13:57:32.087 I think I mentioned Gallaudet a 2016-08-06 13:57:33.074 few times in this hour. 2016-08-06 13:57:33.087 few times in this hour. 2016-08-06 13:57:34.118 I have worked with their 2016-08-06 13:57:34.12 architects. 2016-08-06 13:57:34.131 I have worked with their 2016-08-06 13:57:34.132 architects. 2016-08-06 13:57:39.156 D.J.: Deaf 2016-08-06 13:57:39.157 Space? 2016-08-06 13:57:39.169 D.J.: Deaf 2016-08-06 13:57:39.169 Space? 2016-08-06 13:57:43.202 Beth: Yes. 2016-08-06 13:57:43.204 Thank you. 2016-08-06 13:57:43.205 I have worked with the architect 2016-08-06 13:57:43.215 Beth: Yes. 2016-08-06 13:57:43.217 Thank you. 2016-08-06 13:57:43.218 I have worked with the architect 2016-08-06 13:57:49.199 at Dell attacked -- Gallatin -- 2016-08-06 13:57:49.212 at Dell attacked -- Gallatin -- 2016-08-06 13:57:50.198 Gallaudet. 2016-08-06 13:57:50.211 Gallaudet. 2016-08-06 13:57:51.202 It is amazing things they are 2016-08-06 13:57:51.215 It is amazing things they are 2016-08-06 13:57:56.211 doing 2016-08-06 13:57:56.212 , things most of us do not 2016-08-06 13:57:56.213 think about. 2016-08-06 13:57:56.219 doing, things most of us do not 2016-08-06 13:57:56.221 think about. 2016-08-06 13:57:59.246 A lot of things we can learn 2016-08-06 13:57:59.259 A lot of things we can learn 2016-08-06 13:58:01.292 when designing spaces, setting 2016-08-06 13:58:01.305 when designing spaces, setting 2016-08-06 13:58:04.341 up rooms for meetings. 2016-08-06 13:58:04.353 up rooms for meetings. 2016-08-06 13:58:07.408 The fact we did not want to be 2016-08-06 13:58:07.41 backlit here. 2016-08-06 13:58:07.422 The fact we did not want to be 2016-08-06 13:58:07.423 backlit here. 2016-08-06 13:58:09.411 Those are things they bring to 2016-08-06 13:58:09.412 architecture and theater. 2016-08-06 13:58:09.424 Those are things they bring to 2016-08-06 13:58:09.43 architecture and theater. 2016-08-06 13:58:12.409 I thought that was really 2016-08-06 13:58:12.422 I thought that was really 2016-08-06 13:58:13.41 fascinating. 2016-08-06 13:58:13.423 fascinating. 2016-08-06 13:58:18.447 Did you encounter any of that 2016-08-06 13:58:18.452 ? 2016-08-06 13:58:18.46 Did you encounter any of that 2016-08-06 13:58:18.461 ? 2016-08-06 13:58:23.476 You were 2016-08-06 13:58:23.478 probably more focused 2016-08-06 13:58:23.479 on being a college student. 2016-08-06 13:58:23.489 You were 2016-08-06 13:58:23.49 probably more focused 2016-08-06 13:58:23.492 on being a college student. 2016-08-06 13:58:25.499 Are those things you think about 2016-08-06 13:58:25.512 Are those things you think about 2016-08-06 13:58:27.541 when designing on stage and 2016-08-06 13:58:27.543 other elements of your life? 2016-08-06 13:58:27.554 when designing on stage and 2016-08-06 13:58:27.556 other elements of your life? 2016-08-06 13:58:29.592 . 2016-08-06 13:58:29.605 . 2016-08-06 13:58:32.615 D.J.: Right. 2016-08-06 13:58:32.627 D.J.: Right. 2016-08-06 13:58:34.616 We wanted to make sure we were 2016-08-06 13:58:34.629 We wanted to make sure we were 2016-08-06 13:58:39.658 bringing visual equivalents 2016-08-06 13:58:39.659 to 2016-08-06 13:58:39.66 the auditory. 2016-08-06 13:58:39.671 bringing visual equivalents 2016-08-06 13:58:39.671 to 2016-08-06 13:58:39.672 the auditory. 2016-08-06 13:58:43.7 In our theater, we have several 2016-08-06 13:58:43.713 In our theater, we have several 2016-08-06 13:58:46.699 first -- subwoofers. 2016-08-06 13:58:46.711 first -- subwoofers. 2016-08-06 13:58:48.7 We allow deaf people to feel the 2016-08-06 13:58:48.701 beats. 2016-08-06 13:58:48.713 We allow deaf people to feel the 2016-08-06 13:58:48.714 beats. 2016-08-06 13:58:50.702 We make sure the lights are set 2016-08-06 13:58:50.715 We make sure the lights are set 2016-08-06 13:58:53.699 up properly and the changing is 2016-08-06 13:58:53.701 in accordance with the music. 2016-08-06 13:58:53.712 up properly and the changing is 2016-08-06 13:58:53.714 in accordance with the music. 2016-08-06 13:58:56.7 The mood, we try to reflect what 2016-08-06 13:58:56.702 the lights are so the mood of 2016-08-06 13:58:56.713 The mood, we try to reflect what 2016-08-06 13:58:56.715 the lights are so the mood of 2016-08-06 13:58:59.699 the lighting matches the music 2016-08-06 13:58:59.701 and that kind of thing. 2016-08-06 13:58:59.712 the lighting matches the music 2016-08-06 13:58:59.714 and that kind of thing. 2016-08-06 13:59:05.701 We definitely take a lot of time 2016-08-06 13:59:05.703 with that in mind to do as much 2016-08-06 13:59:05.714 We definitely take a lot of time 2016-08-06 13:59:05.716 with that in mind to do as much 2016-08-06 13:59:06.702 as we can as possible. 2016-08-06 13:59:06.715 as we can as possible. 2016-08-06 13:59:10.748 There is a limit to the budget. 2016-08-06 13:59:10.75 That is the ceiling you hit all 2016-08-06 13:59:10.751 the time. 2016-08-06 13:59:10.761 There is a limit to the budget. 2016-08-06 13:59:10.762 That is the ceiling you hit all 2016-08-06 13:59:10.764 the time. 2016-08-06 13:59:12.741 There is always more we can do. 2016-08-06 13:59:12.754 There is always more we can do. 2016-08-06 13:59:16.746 Another thing I wanted to touch 2016-08-06 13:59:16.76 Another thing I wanted to touch 2016-08-06 13:59:19.845 on in our conversation that I 2016-08-06 13:59:19.847 think is important is we need to 2016-08-06 13:59:19.848 be making our own art. 2016-08-06 13:59:19.858 on in our conversation that I 2016-08-06 13:59:19.86 think is important is we need to 2016-08-06 13:59:19.861 be making our own art. 2016-08-06 13:59:22.923 On our own terms. 2016-08-06 13:59:22.935 On our own terms. 2016-08-06 13:59:24.954 Instead of waiting for the 2016-08-06 13:59:24.967 Instead of waiting for the 2016-08-06 13:59:26.997 system to give us an opportunity 2016-08-06 13:59:26.998 for it. 2016-08-06 13:59:27.01 system to give us an opportunity 2016-08-06 13:59:27.011 for it. 2016-08-06 13:59:30.042 I think that is something that 2016-08-06 13:59:30.054 I think that is something that 2016-08-06 13:59:32.091 is a big Takeaway from my 2016-08-06 13:59:32.104 is a big Takeaway from my 2016-08-06 13:59:33.095 experience as an artist and 2016-08-06 13:59:33.108 experience as an artist and 2016-08-06 13:59:35.117 artistic director. 2016-08-06 13:59:35.13 artistic director. 2016-08-06 13:59:37.115 I still write. 2016-08-06 13:59:37.128 I still write. 2016-08-06 13:59:41.199 I remember when I used to wait 2016-08-06 13:59:41.201 for the system to give me the 2016-08-06 13:59:41.202 opportunity. 2016-08-06 13:59:41.212 I remember when I used to wait 2016-08-06 13:59:41.214 for the system to give me the 2016-08-06 13:59:41.215 opportunity. 2016-08-06 13:59:46.241 Now that 2016-08-06 13:59:46.242 I am older and wiser, I 2016-08-06 13:59:46.254 Now that 2016-08-06 13:59:46.255 I am older and wiser, I 2016-08-06 13:59:47.245 feel we cannot wait for people 2016-08-06 13:59:47.257 feel we cannot wait for people 2016-08-06 13:59:49.338 to change to adapt to us. 2016-08-06 13:59:49.351 to change to adapt to us. 2016-08-06 13:59:52.34 I feel it we have got to be more 2016-08-06 13:59:52.352 I feel it we have got to be more 2016-08-06 13:59:56.341 proactive in finding our 2016-08-06 13:59:56.342 opportunities ourselves and 2016-08-06 13:59:56.354 proactive in finding our 2016-08-06 13:59:56.355 opportunities ourselves and 2016-08-06 13:59:57.339 making our own art. 2016-08-06 13:59:57.352 making our own art. 2016-08-06 14:00:00.345 Beth: I think that is a great 2016-08-06 14:00:00.358 Beth: I think that is a great 2016-08-06 14:00:01.34 note to leave on. 2016-08-06 14:00:01.353 note to leave on. 2016-08-06 14:00:03.338 Do we have another question? 2016-08-06 14:00:03.351 Do we have another question? 2016-08-06 14:00:07.366 >> Do we have time? 2016-08-06 14:00:07.379 >> Do we have time? 2016-08-06 14:00:11.413 I was curious from an acting 2016-08-06 14:00:11.421 I was curious from an acting 2016-08-06 14:00:13.408 perspective. 2016-08-06 14:00:13.421 perspective. 2016-08-06 14:00:16.409 I know some of the challenges 2016-08-06 14:00:16.41 idea with in terms of 2016-08-06 14:00:16.422 I know some of the challenges 2016-08-06 14:00:16.423 idea with in terms of 2016-08-06 14:00:18.409 accommodation in auditions and 2016-08-06 14:00:18.422 accommodation in auditions and 2016-08-06 14:00:23.41 places that are not so inclusive 2016-08-06 14:00:23.412 or inclusively minded. 2016-08-06 14:00:23.423 places that are not so inclusive 2016-08-06 14:00:23.423 or inclusively minded. 2016-08-06 14:00:27.409 I am curious what the deaf actor 2016-08-06 14:00:27.422 I am curious what the deaf actor 2016-08-06 14:00:28.452 experience is in that situation. 2016-08-06 14:00:28.464 experience is in that situation. 2016-08-06 14:00:30.492 I was just thinking about when I 2016-08-06 14:00:30.505 I was just thinking about when I 2016-08-06 14:00:31.494 auditioned for grad school. 2016-08-06 14:00:31.507 auditioned for grad school. 2016-08-06 14:00:34.493 If there is a young actor who 2016-08-06 14:00:34.505 If there is a young actor who 2016-08-06 14:00:36.491 wants to go and addition for a 2016-08-06 14:00:36.504 wants to go and addition for a 2016-08-06 14:00:40.492 graduate school, I am just 2016-08-06 14:00:40.505 graduate school, I am just 2016-08-06 14:00:42.493 curious about what that 2016-08-06 14:00:42.506 curious about what that 2016-08-06 14:00:43.492 experience is. 2016-08-06 14:00:43.505 experience is. 2016-08-06 14:00:45.504 D.J.: It is pretty much the 2016-08-06 14:00:45.506 same. 2016-08-06 14:00:45.518 D.J.: It is pretty much the 2016-08-06 14:00:45.519 same. 2016-08-06 14:00:48.493 A lot of frustration for the 2016-08-06 14:00:48.494 deaf actor. 2016-08-06 14:00:48.506 A lot of frustration for the 2016-08-06 14:00:48.507 deaf actor. 2016-08-06 14:00:51.6 For example, is show up at the 2016-08-06 14:00:51.601 audition and there is no 2016-08-06 14:00:51.602 interpreter. 2016-08-06 14:00:51.612 For example, is show up at the 2016-08-06 14:00:51.614 audition and there is no 2016-08-06 14:00:51.615 interpreter. 2016-08-06 14:00:54.67 They have got to bring and pay 2016-08-06 14:00:54.672 for their own interpreter. 2016-08-06 14:00:54.683 They have got to bring and pay 2016-08-06 14:00:54.684 for their own interpreter. 2016-08-06 14:00:59.743 Often, they will have an 2016-08-06 14:00:59.745 interpreter that is an intern 2016-08-06 14:00:59.746 and probably not qualified. 2016-08-06 14:00:59.756 Often, they will have an 2016-08-06 14:00:59.76 interpreter that is an intern 2016-08-06 14:00:59.762 and probably not qualified. 2016-08-06 14:01:02.794 Often, the interpreter will be 2016-08-06 14:01:02.807 Often, the interpreter will be 2016-08-06 14:01:05.868 monotone so all the actors sound 2016-08-06 14:01:05.881 monotone so all the actors sound 2016-08-06 14:01:08.868 the same. 2016-08-06 14:01:08.88 the same. 2016-08-06 14:01:09.869 So they are giving them the same 2016-08-06 14:01:09.881 So they are giving them the same 2016-08-06 14:01:10.868 feed. 2016-08-06 14:01:10.88 feed. 2016-08-06 14:01:14.912 It is based on your facial 2016-08-06 14:01:14.914 expression and acting ability. 2016-08-06 14:01:14.925 It is based on your facial 2016-08-06 14:01:14.927 expression and acting ability. 2016-08-06 14:01:17.911 That does not always come 2016-08-06 14:01:17.913 through in the interpretation. 2016-08-06 14:01:17.923 That does not always come 2016-08-06 14:01:17.925 through in the interpretation. 2016-08-06 14:01:18.916 That is frustrating for the 2016-08-06 14:01:18.917 actor. 2016-08-06 14:01:18.929 That is frustrating for the 2016-08-06 14:01:18.93 actor. 2016-08-06 14:01:21.953 I don't know what the best way 2016-08-06 14:01:21.966 I don't know what the best way 2016-08-06 14:01:23.95 is, but it is unique. 2016-08-06 14:01:23.963 is, but it is unique. 2016-08-06 14:01:25.951 It is the ongoing education 2016-08-06 14:01:25.964 It is the ongoing education 2016-08-06 14:01:30.992 piece of it where I think the 2016-08-06 14:01:31.005 piece of it where I think the 2016-08-06 14:01:31.995 artistic directors can be more 2016-08-06 14:01:31.997 vocal and involved in the 2016-08-06 14:01:31.998 process. 2016-08-06 14:01:32.008 artistic directors can be more 2016-08-06 14:01:32.009 vocal and involved in the 2016-08-06 14:01:32.011 process. 2016-08-06 14:01:36.993 But right now, it seems they 2016-08-06 14:01:36.995 want to be more of a neutral 2016-08-06 14:01:37.006 But right now, it seems they 2016-08-06 14:01:37.008 want to be more of a neutral 2016-08-06 14:01:38.994 party and just be the 2016-08-06 14:01:38.995 facilitator. 2016-08-06 14:01:39.007 party and just be the 2016-08-06 14:01:39.008 facilitator. 2016-08-06 14:01:40.994 But really, they can be doing 2016-08-06 14:01:41.007 But really, they can be doing 2016-08-06 14:01:42.993 more to help change the system. 2016-08-06 14:01:43.005 more to help change the system. 2016-08-06 14:01:44.994 It needs to change. 2016-08-06 14:01:45.007 It needs to change. 2016-08-06 14:01:45.994 People need to be more aware. 2016-08-06 14:01:46.007 People need to be more aware. 2016-08-06 14:01:51.042 It is hitting the wall. 2016-08-06 14:01:51.054 It is hitting the wall. 2016-08-06 14:01:58.043 >> My question for you is, 2016-08-06 14:01:58.043 what 2016-08-06 14:01:58.045 for hearing people who are 2016-08-06 14:01:58.055 >> My question for you is, 2016-08-06 14:01:58.056 what 2016-08-06 14:01:58.058 for hearing people who are 2016-08-06 14:02:01.091 auditioning deaf actors, what is 2016-08-06 14:02:01.104 auditioning deaf actors, what is 2016-08-06 14:02:04.118 the ideal situation for that 2016-08-06 14:02:04.13 the ideal situation for that 2016-08-06 14:02:05.118 audition? 2016-08-06 14:02:05.13 audition? 2016-08-06 14:02:07.12 And how should they assess the 2016-08-06 14:02:07.133 And how should they assess the 2016-08-06 14:02:08.118 actor? 2016-08-06 14:02:08.131 actor? 2016-08-06 14:02:14.2 D.J.: 2016-08-06 14:02:14.201 Yeah. 2016-08-06 14:02:14.212 D.J.: 2016-08-06 14:02:14.213 Yeah. 2016-08-06 14:02:19.208 They should have -- 2016-08-06 14:02:19.209 a hearing 2016-08-06 14:02:19.211 person should have a deaf person 2016-08-06 14:02:19.212 by their side. 2016-08-06 14:02:19.221 They should have -- 2016-08-06 14:02:19.222 a hearing 2016-08-06 14:02:19.224 person should have a deaf person 2016-08-06 14:02:19.225 by their side. 2016-08-06 14:02:24.202 Someone they can trust, that 2016-08-06 14:02:24.203 there is ongoing conversation. 2016-08-06 14:02:24.215 Someone they can trust, that 2016-08-06 14:02:24.216 there is ongoing conversation. 2016-08-06 14:02:29.202 In Deaf West, we have the person 2016-08-06 14:02:29.215 In Deaf West, we have the person 2016-08-06 14:02:30.204 that does that. 2016-08-06 14:02:30.206 I am the person that tells the 2016-08-06 14:02:30.217 that does that. 2016-08-06 14:02:30.218 I am the person that tells the 2016-08-06 14:02:31.244 director and actor you have a 2016-08-06 14:02:31.257 director and actor you have a 2016-08-06 14:02:32.247 strong specific intent here. 2016-08-06 14:02:32.259 strong specific intent here. 2016-08-06 14:02:35.289 You can see the different 2016-08-06 14:02:35.302 You can see the different 2016-08-06 14:02:38.291 perspectives, from the deaf 2016-08-06 14:02:38.293 perspective and hearing 2016-08-06 14:02:38.304 perspectives, from the deaf 2016-08-06 14:02:38.306 perspective and hearing 2016-08-06 14:02:40.291 perspective and give the full 2016-08-06 14:02:40.304 perspective and give the full 2016-08-06 14:02:42.339 picture required in 18. 2016-08-06 14:02:42.351 picture required in 18. 2016-08-06 14:02:44.345 -- 18. 2016-08-06 14:02:44.358 -- 18. 2016-08-06 14:02:47.427 This requires teamwork. 2016-08-06 14:02:47.44 This requires teamwork. 2016-08-06 14:02:49.42 Often, hearing people think they 2016-08-06 14:02:49.422 know everything. 2016-08-06 14:02:49.433 Often, hearing people think they 2016-08-06 14:02:49.435 know everything. 2016-08-06 14:02:51.41 That tends to be common. 2016-08-06 14:02:51.423 That tends to be common. 2016-08-06 14:02:54.411 >> I want to ask you. 2016-08-06 14:02:54.427 >> I want to ask you. 2016-08-06 14:02:59.539 I have the mic 2016-08-06 14:02:59.54 so I'm going to 2016-08-06 14:02:59.541 ask the question. 2016-08-06 14:02:59.552 I have the mic 2016-08-06 14:02:59.554 so I'm going to 2016-08-06 14:02:59.555 ask the question. 2016-08-06 14:03:01.543 It was the question asked of 2016-08-06 14:03:01.555 It was the question asked of 2016-08-06 14:03:03.54 Reveca earlier. 2016-08-06 14:03:03.554 Reveca earlier. 2016-08-06 14:03:08.591 When you are looking at 2016-08-06 14:03:08.592 theater, 2016-08-06 14:03:08.594 visual art, anything portraying 2016-08-06 14:03:08.604 When you are looking at 2016-08-06 14:03:08.605 theater, 2016-08-06 14:03:08.606 visual art, anything portraying 2016-08-06 14:03:10.651 people who are deaf, what do you 2016-08-06 14:03:10.663 people who are deaf, what do you 2016-08-06 14:03:12.661 want to see? 2016-08-06 14:03:12.673 want to see? 2016-08-06 14:03:19.701 D.J.: 2016-08-06 14:03:19.714 D.J.: 2016-08-06 14:03:20.71 I think for me it is 2016-08-06 14:03:20.723 I think for me it is 2016-08-06 14:03:24.79 important that they are good, 2016-08-06 14:03:24.802 important that they are good, 2016-08-06 14:03:25.791 number one. 2016-08-06 14:03:25.803 number one. 2016-08-06 14:03:26.79 I don't want to see bad art. 2016-08-06 14:03:26.803 I don't want to see bad art. 2016-08-06 14:03:30.791 But more importantly, I am 2016-08-06 14:03:30.793 interested in their perspective. 2016-08-06 14:03:30.804 But more importantly, I am 2016-08-06 14:03:30.806 interested in their perspective. 2016-08-06 14:03:34.839 What we bring to the material. 2016-08-06 14:03:34.852 What we bring to the material. 2016-08-06 14:03:36.871 Visual arts, theater, whatever 2016-08-06 14:03:36.884 Visual arts, theater, whatever 2016-08-06 14:03:39.868 it might be. 2016-08-06 14:03:39.88 it might be. 2016-08-06 14:03:41.87 Making sure we are bringing 2016-08-06 14:03:41.882 Making sure we are bringing 2016-08-06 14:03:42.912 something new and it is not just 2016-08-06 14:03:42.925 something new and it is not just 2016-08-06 14:03:44.913 a repeat of what everybody else 2016-08-06 14:03:44.925 a repeat of what everybody else 2016-08-06 14:03:45.952 is doing. 2016-08-06 14:03:45.965 is doing. 2016-08-06 14:03:48.993 I think it is important in our 2016-08-06 14:03:49.006 I think it is important in our 2016-08-06 14:03:50.991 process as deaf artists. 2016-08-06 14:03:51.004 process as deaf artists. 2016-08-06 14:03:53.993 It does not have to be explicit. 2016-08-06 14:03:54.006 It does not have to be explicit. 2016-08-06 14:03:59.992 Some deaf writers, 2016-08-06 14:04:00.005 Some deaf writers, 2016-08-06 14:04:00.994 when they 2016-08-06 14:04:01.006 when they 2016-08-06 14:04:01.995 write for me it is fascinating 2016-08-06 14:04:02.008 write for me it is fascinating 2016-08-06 14:04:04.064 because I am paying attention to 2016-08-06 14:04:04.065 specific things hearing people 2016-08-06 14:04:04.067 don't notice. 2016-08-06 14:04:04.079 because I am paying attention to 2016-08-06 14:04:04.082 specific things hearing people 2016-08-06 14:04:04.084 don't notice. 2016-08-06 14:04:08.126 It is not there explicitly to 2016-08-06 14:04:08.132 the hearing people. 2016-08-06 14:04:08.138 It is not there explicitly to 2016-08-06 14:04:08.14 the hearing people. 2016-08-06 14:04:09.163 It is not obvious to them. 2016-08-06 14:04:09.175 It is not obvious to them. 2016-08-06 14:04:12.162 It is the voice I am looking 2016-08-06 14:04:12.163 for. 2016-08-06 14:04:12.174 It is the voice I am looking 2016-08-06 14:04:12.176 for. 2016-08-06 14:04:19.202 Beth: 2016-08-06 14:04:19.203 Just one other topic. 2016-08-06 14:04:19.215 Beth: 2016-08-06 14:04:19.216 Just one other topic. 2016-08-06 14:04:23.204 Since we just came off a week of 2016-08-06 14:04:23.206 talking about accessibility and 2016-08-06 14:04:23.217 Since we just came off a week of 2016-08-06 14:04:23.219 talking about accessibility and 2016-08-06 14:04:27.202 the practicality and costs, one 2016-08-06 14:04:27.215 the practicality and costs, one 2016-08-06 14:04:30.203 of the fears of including people 2016-08-06 14:04:30.215 of the fears of including people 2016-08-06 14:04:33.204 who are deaf and have other 2016-08-06 14:04:33.206 disabilities is the cost. 2016-08-06 14:04:33.217 who are deaf and have other 2016-08-06 14:04:33.219 disabilities is the cost. 2016-08-06 14:04:35.289 But one of the issues raised in 2016-08-06 14:04:35.302 But one of the issues raised in 2016-08-06 14:04:39.34 our roundtable in January was 2016-08-06 14:04:39.353 our roundtable in January was 2016-08-06 14:04:42.368 when "Big River" was in New 2016-08-06 14:04:42.381 when "Big River" was in New 2016-08-06 14:04:48.37 York, the theater director 2016-08-06 14:04:48.371 said 2016-08-06 14:04:48.383 York, the theater director 2016-08-06 14:04:48.384 said 2016-08-06 14:04:49.37 the cost was not any different 2016-08-06 14:04:49.383 the cost was not any different 2016-08-06 14:04:52.374 than bringing in someone from 2016-08-06 14:04:52.387 than bringing in someone from 2016-08-06 14:04:56.415 England to come and perform and 2016-08-06 14:04:56.428 England to come and perform and 2016-08-06 14:04:57.417 putting them up in a hotel or 2016-08-06 14:04:57.418 apartment. 2016-08-06 14:04:57.43 putting them up in a hotel or 2016-08-06 14:04:57.432 apartment. 2016-08-06 14:05:03.418 The costs really 2016-08-06 14:05:03.419 are not any 2016-08-06 14:05:03.421 greater than any other theater 2016-08-06 14:05:03.422 cost. 2016-08-06 14:05:03.431 The costs really 2016-08-06 14:05:03.432 are not any 2016-08-06 14:05:03.433 greater than any other theater 2016-08-06 14:05:03.434 cost. 2016-08-06 14:05:08.468 She was talking about how some 2016-08-06 14:05:08.479 She was talking about how some 2016-08-06 14:05:11.497 of the costs in accommodating 2016-08-06 14:05:11.499 her were not more than other 2016-08-06 14:05:11.51 of the costs in accommodating 2016-08-06 14:05:11.512 her were not more than other 2016-08-06 14:05:13.494 things. 2016-08-06 14:05:13.507 things. 2016-08-06 14:05:18.592 I think you said bringing in 2016-08-06 14:05:18.593 a 2016-08-06 14:05:18.594 pink elephant or something. 2016-08-06 14:05:18.605 I think you said bringing in 2016-08-06 14:05:18.605 a 2016-08-06 14:05:18.607 pink elephant or something. 2016-08-06 14:05:21.675 If they could bring that in, 2016-08-06 14:05:21.677 they could bring in a wheelchair 2016-08-06 14:05:21.678 user. 2016-08-06 14:05:21.687 If they could bring that in, 2016-08-06 14:05:21.689 they could bring in a wheelchair 2016-08-06 14:05:21.69 user. 2016-08-06 14:05:23.745 The costs are similar. 2016-08-06 14:05:23.758 The costs are similar. 2016-08-06 14:05:30.745 There are a lot of costs 2016-08-06 14:05:30.747 associated with elephants and 2016-08-06 14:05:30.748 horses. 2016-08-06 14:05:30.758 There are a lot of costs 2016-08-06 14:05:30.76 associated with elephants and 2016-08-06 14:05:30.761 horses. 2016-08-06 14:05:33.745 There are all these other things 2016-08-06 14:05:33.747 that are very similar to that. 2016-08-06 14:05:33.758 There are all these other things 2016-08-06 14:05:33.76 that are very similar to that. 2016-08-06 14:05:36.747 Does that make sense? 2016-08-06 14:05:36.76 Does that make sense? 2016-08-06 14:05:39.748 D.J.: Like we were talking about 2016-08-06 14:05:39.76 D.J.: Like we were talking about 2016-08-06 14:05:42.789 earlier, the cost of 2016-08-06 14:05:42.802 earlier, the cost of 2016-08-06 14:05:43.79 accessibility for the 2016-08-06 14:05:43.802 accessibility for the 2016-08-06 14:05:45.789 wheelchairs. 2016-08-06 14:05:45.802 wheelchairs. 2016-08-06 14:05:47.79 I think for her wheelchair, it 2016-08-06 14:05:47.803 I think for her wheelchair, it 2016-08-06 14:05:48.79 was $7,000. 2016-08-06 14:05:48.803 was $7,000. 2016-08-06 14:05:49.798 But that is small compared to 2016-08-06 14:05:49.81 But that is small compared to 2016-08-06 14:05:53.789 the whole budget of $4.5 million 2016-08-06 14:05:53.791 for the show itself. 2016-08-06 14:05:53.802 the whole budget of $4.5 million 2016-08-06 14:05:53.803 for the show itself. 2016-08-06 14:05:58.913 Again, talking about people who 2016-08-06 14:05:58.925 Again, talking about people who 2016-08-06 14:06:02.915 are willing to make the changes, 2016-08-06 14:06:02.927 are willing to make the changes, 2016-08-06 14:06:03.913 to change their mindset and 2016-08-06 14:06:03.926 to change their mindset and 2016-08-06 14:06:06.914 hearts instead of looking at the 2016-08-06 14:06:06.915 budget only. 2016-08-06 14:06:06.927 hearts instead of looking at the 2016-08-06 14:06:06.928 budget only. 2016-08-06 14:06:08.958 You have to look at the bigger 2016-08-06 14:06:08.972 You have to look at the bigger 2016-08-06 14:06:10.995 picture. 2016-08-06 14:06:11.008 picture. 2016-08-06 14:06:12.996 Beth: I agree. 2016-08-06 14:06:13.009 Beth: I agree. 2016-08-06 14:06:16.051 Were there any other questions? 2016-08-06 14:06:16.061 Were there any other questions? 2016-08-06 14:06:17.037 Great. 2016-08-06 14:06:17.05 Great. 2016-08-06 14:06:19.046 Thank you. 2016-08-06 14:06:19.058 Thank you. 2016-08-06 14:06:21.038 D.J.: Thank you for having me. 2016-08-06 14:06:21.051 D.J.: Thank you for having me. 2016-08-06 14:06:23.042 And thank you to the 2016-08-06 14:06:23.044 interpreter. 2016-08-06 14:06:23.055 And thank you to the 2016-08-06 14:06:23.056 interpreter. 2016-08-06 14:06:24.039 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 14:06:24.052 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 14:06:34.121 Beth: 2016-08-06 14:06:34.123 We are going to take 15 2016-08-06 14:06:34.124 minutes and we will be back. 2016-08-06 14:06:34.134 Beth: 2016-08-06 14:06:34.135 We are going to take 15 2016-08-06 14:06:34.137 minutes and we will be back. 2016-08-06 14:06:35.12 Thank you. 2016-08-06 14:06:35.133 Thank you. 2016-08-06 14:22:22.367 >> OK, we will ask folks to 2016-08-06 14:22:22.38 >> OK, we will ask folks to 2016-08-06 14:22:24.368 start finding their seats 2016-08-06 14:22:24.369 please. 2016-08-06 14:22:24.381 start finding their seats 2016-08-06 14:22:24.382 please. 2016-08-06 14:22:49.5 OK, I think we are going to get 2016-08-06 14:22:49.501 started. 2016-08-06 14:22:49.513 OK, I think we are going to get 2016-08-06 14:22:49.514 started. 2016-08-06 14:22:59.498 Hi, everybody. 2016-08-06 14:22:59.511 Hi, everybody. 2016-08-06 14:23:00.495 Thanks for coming back. 2016-08-06 14:23:00.508 Thanks for coming back. 2016-08-06 14:23:01.495 I know we have sort of a post 2016-08-06 14:23:01.507 I know we have sort of a post 2016-08-06 14:23:05.495 lunch doldrums. 2016-08-06 14:23:05.496 So, thank you so much. 2016-08-06 14:23:05.507 lunch doldrums. 2016-08-06 14:23:05.509 So, thank you so much. 2016-08-06 14:23:09.496 So, I am so fortunate to be 2016-08-06 14:23:09.509 So, I am so fortunate to be 2016-08-06 14:23:13.497 sitting between two incredibly 2016-08-06 14:23:13.51 sitting between two incredibly 2016-08-06 14:23:17.495 talented people that are really 2016-08-06 14:23:17.508 talented people that are really 2016-08-06 14:23:21.539 at the forefront of innovation 2016-08-06 14:23:21.54 for artists with disabilities 2016-08-06 14:23:21.551 at the forefront of innovation 2016-08-06 14:23:21.556 for artists with disabilities 2016-08-06 14:23:23.537 and artists in general. 2016-08-06 14:23:23.549 and artists in general. 2016-08-06 14:23:27.535 This is Esther Grimm, the 2016-08-06 14:23:27.548 This is Esther Grimm, the 2016-08-06 14:23:32.536 executive director of 3Arts in 2016-08-06 14:23:32.544 Chicago, and she will talk more 2016-08-06 14:23:32.549 executive director of 3Arts in 2016-08-06 14:23:32.551 Chicago, and she will talk more 2016-08-06 14:23:39.536 about 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:23:39.537 in a moment. 2016-08-06 14:23:39.549 about 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:23:39.55 in a moment. 2016-08-06 14:23:46.537 This is -- 2016-08-06 14:23:46.55 This is -- 2016-08-06 14:23:47.538 are choreographer, 2016-08-06 14:23:47.551 are choreographer, 2016-08-06 14:23:48.539 some of you may have seen his 2016-08-06 14:23:48.552 some of you may have seen his 2016-08-06 14:23:51.58 brilliant performance on 2016-08-06 14:23:51.581 Thursday night. 2016-08-06 14:23:51.592 brilliant performance on 2016-08-06 14:23:51.594 Thursday night. 2016-08-06 14:23:58.587 Barak is a 2016-08-06 14:23:58.588 choreographer based 2016-08-06 14:23:58.6 Barak is a 2016-08-06 14:23:58.601 choreographer based 2016-08-06 14:24:04.579 in Chicago whose work explores 2016-08-06 14:24:04.58 race. 2016-08-06 14:24:04.592 in Chicago whose work explores 2016-08-06 14:24:04.593 race. 2016-08-06 14:24:10.579 We will 2016-08-06 14:24:10.58 talk more about that 2016-08-06 14:24:10.592 We will 2016-08-06 14:24:10.593 talk more about that 2016-08-06 14:24:12.584 work in a few moments. 2016-08-06 14:24:12.597 work in a few moments. 2016-08-06 14:24:14.581 I think our conversation will 2016-08-06 14:24:14.582 follow a similar model to the 2016-08-06 14:24:14.593 I think our conversation will 2016-08-06 14:24:14.595 follow a similar model to the 2016-08-06 14:24:16.581 Vermont Studios Center because I 2016-08-06 14:24:16.593 Vermont Studios Center because I 2016-08-06 14:24:21.663 think the setup 2016-08-06 14:24:21.676 think the setup 2016-08-06 14:24:22.67 is similar, 2016-08-06 14:24:22.671 minus the physical structure of 2016-08-06 14:24:22.673 the studio. 2016-08-06 14:24:22.682 is similar, 2016-08-06 14:24:22.684 minus the physical structure of 2016-08-06 14:24:22.686 the studio. 2016-08-06 14:24:32.669 So, when I was talking to 2016-08-06 14:24:32.682 So, when I was talking to 2016-08-06 14:24:32.714 Esther 2016-08-06 14:24:32.727 Esther 2016-08-06 14:24:33.715 lest week about preparing for 2016-08-06 14:24:33.717 this interview, she said 2016-08-06 14:24:33.728 lest week about preparing for 2016-08-06 14:24:33.73 this interview, she said 2016-08-06 14:24:37.716 something interesting to me that 2016-08-06 14:24:37.729 something interesting to me that 2016-08-06 14:24:41.715 sparked, that framed our whole 2016-08-06 14:24:41.728 sparked, that framed our whole 2016-08-06 14:24:42.715 day, in my view. 2016-08-06 14:24:42.728 day, in my view. 2016-08-06 14:24:44.714 She said, art is about change -- 2016-08-06 14:24:44.727 She said, art is about change -- 2016-08-06 14:24:50.746 negotiation, 2016-08-06 14:24:50.759 negotiation, 2016-08-06 14:24:52.746 managing, evolving. 2016-08-06 14:24:52.758 managing, evolving. 2016-08-06 14:24:53.749 Avoiding becoming static. 2016-08-06 14:24:53.755 I think today is about how can 2016-08-06 14:24:53.761 Avoiding becoming static. 2016-08-06 14:24:53.763 I think today is about how can 2016-08-06 14:24:59.747 we 2016-08-06 14:24:59.76 we 2016-08-06 14:25:00.75 as arts organizations become 2016-08-06 14:25:00.752 more innovative, become more 2016-08-06 14:25:00.763 as arts organizations become 2016-08-06 14:25:00.765 more innovative, become more 2016-08-06 14:25:03.748 exciting, become revolutionary, 2016-08-06 14:25:03.761 exciting, become revolutionary, 2016-08-06 14:25:08.748 and present artists on stage and 2016-08-06 14:25:08.749 behind the scenes that are 2016-08-06 14:25:08.76 and present artists on stage and 2016-08-06 14:25:08.762 behind the scenes that are 2016-08-06 14:25:14.747 making works that 2016-08-06 14:25:14.748 actually 2016-08-06 14:25:14.759 making works that 2016-08-06 14:25:14.76 actually 2016-08-06 14:25:15.749 speaks to the human experience 2016-08-06 14:25:15.75 in a way that we have not 2016-08-06 14:25:15.762 speaks to the human experience 2016-08-06 14:25:15.764 in a way that we have not 2016-08-06 14:25:17.747 traditionally seen because we 2016-08-06 14:25:17.76 traditionally seen because we 2016-08-06 14:25:22.788 have then in a more static 2016-08-06 14:25:22.801 have then in a more static 2016-08-06 14:25:23.792 mode, 2016-08-06 14:25:23.794 traditional mode of thinking. 2016-08-06 14:25:23.805 mode, 2016-08-06 14:25:23.806 traditional mode of thinking. 2016-08-06 14:25:26.789 I think that that is how I like 2016-08-06 14:25:26.802 I think that that is how I like 2016-08-06 14:25:31.79 to frame this conversation. 2016-08-06 14:25:31.803 to frame this conversation. 2016-08-06 14:25:33.792 I think I'm going to stand -- 2016-08-06 14:25:33.805 I think I'm going to stand -- 2016-08-06 14:25:38.795 start with you, Esther, talking 2016-08-06 14:25:38.808 start with you, Esther, talking 2016-08-06 14:25:40.788 about the history of 3Arts. 2016-08-06 14:25:40.802 about the history of 3Arts. 2016-08-06 14:25:46.79 Esther: I'm kind 2016-08-06 14:25:46.803 Esther: I'm kind 2016-08-06 14:25:47.791 of amazed that 2016-08-06 14:25:47.804 of amazed that 2016-08-06 14:25:48.793 I said that quote. 2016-08-06 14:25:48.794 Has that ever happened to you? 2016-08-06 14:25:48.806 I said that quote. 2016-08-06 14:25:48.808 Has that ever happened to you? 2016-08-06 14:25:51.831 You say something and it sounds 2016-08-06 14:25:51.844 You say something and it sounds 2016-08-06 14:25:53.833 really good when someone else 2016-08-06 14:25:53.835 says it. 2016-08-06 14:25:53.846 really good when someone else 2016-08-06 14:25:53.851 says it. 2016-08-06 14:25:59.832 I am also on the board 2016-08-06 14:25:59.833 of 2016-08-06 14:25:59.845 I am also on the board 2016-08-06 14:25:59.846 of 2016-08-06 14:26:02.833 alliance of artists communities, 2016-08-06 14:26:02.846 alliance of artists communities, 2016-08-06 14:26:05.833 which has come up a few times, 2016-08-06 14:26:05.846 which has come up a few times, 2016-08-06 14:26:07.834 and I want you to know that you 2016-08-06 14:26:07.846 and I want you to know that you 2016-08-06 14:26:09.869 have been heard. 2016-08-06 14:26:09.881 have been heard. 2016-08-06 14:26:11.842 We have a board of 2016-08-06 14:26:11.843 accessibility, and we are 2016-08-06 14:26:11.845 beginning a survey of all of our 2016-08-06 14:26:11.855 We have a board of 2016-08-06 14:26:11.856 accessibility, and we are 2016-08-06 14:26:11.858 beginning a survey of all of our 2016-08-06 14:26:14.834 members to ask them and tell us 2016-08-06 14:26:14.847 members to ask them and tell us 2016-08-06 14:26:21.835 more deeply what they mean 2016-08-06 14:26:21.836 when 2016-08-06 14:26:21.838 they say, are the residency 2016-08-06 14:26:21.848 more deeply what they mean 2016-08-06 14:26:21.849 when 2016-08-06 14:26:21.851 they say, are the residency 2016-08-06 14:26:25.832 programs accessible? 2016-08-06 14:26:25.846 programs accessible? 2016-08-06 14:26:29.836 If anyone has any more input on 2016-08-06 14:26:29.848 If anyone has any more input on 2016-08-06 14:26:30.833 behalf of that organization, 2016-08-06 14:26:30.846 behalf of that organization, 2016-08-06 14:26:31.834 please tell me before the day is 2016-08-06 14:26:31.836 over. 2016-08-06 14:26:31.847 please tell me before the day is 2016-08-06 14:26:31.848 over. 2016-08-06 14:26:35.835 So, you are among the rare 2016-08-06 14:26:35.837 people who get to hear the back 2016-08-06 14:26:35.848 So, you are among the rare 2016-08-06 14:26:35.85 people who get to hear the back 2016-08-06 14:26:39.836 story of 3Arts. 2016-08-06 14:26:39.848 story of 3Arts. 2016-08-06 14:26:40.834 It is a long history. 2016-08-06 14:26:40.847 It is a long history. 2016-08-06 14:26:44.833 I will really super abbreviated, 2016-08-06 14:26:44.846 I will really super abbreviated, 2016-08-06 14:26:46.833 because we want to make sure we 2016-08-06 14:26:46.835 have time for a real dialogue in 2016-08-06 14:26:46.837 this room. 2016-08-06 14:26:46.846 because we want to make sure we 2016-08-06 14:26:46.848 have time for a real dialogue in 2016-08-06 14:26:46.849 this room. 2016-08-06 14:26:50.833 3Arts today is a nonprofit 2016-08-06 14:26:50.846 3Arts today is a nonprofit 2016-08-06 14:26:55.919 grantmaking and arts 2016-08-06 14:26:55.92 service 2016-08-06 14:26:55.932 grantmaking and arts 2016-08-06 14:26:55.933 service 2016-08-06 14:27:02.916 visitation supporting 2016-08-06 14:27:02.917 women, 2016-08-06 14:27:02.929 visitation supporting 2016-08-06 14:27:02.93 women, 2016-08-06 14:27:04.916 artists of color, artists with 2016-08-06 14:27:04.929 artists of color, artists with 2016-08-06 14:27:05.92 disabilities in the Chicago area 2016-08-06 14:27:05.933 disabilities in the Chicago area 2016-08-06 14:27:06.916 -- a big mouthful. 2016-08-06 14:27:06.929 -- a big mouthful. 2016-08-06 14:27:07.934 It is about nine years old. 2016-08-06 14:27:07.947 It is about nine years old. 2016-08-06 14:27:12.917 It stems from a 104 --year-old 2016-08-06 14:27:12.93 It stems from a 104 --year-old 2016-08-06 14:27:16.917 organization known as the 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:27:16.93 organization known as the 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:27:20.919 club of Chicago, followed by -- 2016-08-06 14:27:20.932 club of Chicago, followed by -- 2016-08-06 14:27:24.966 founded by Jane Adams and about 2016-08-06 14:27:24.968 30 other civic leaders who 2016-08-06 14:27:24.98 founded by Jane Adams and about 2016-08-06 14:27:24.981 30 other civic leaders who 2016-08-06 14:27:29.015 identified that women were 2016-08-06 14:27:29.017 completely unrepresented in the 2016-08-06 14:27:29.028 identified that women were 2016-08-06 14:27:29.03 completely unrepresented in the 2016-08-06 14:27:33.014 arts and wanted to help them 2016-08-06 14:27:33.027 arts and wanted to help them 2016-08-06 14:27:35.014 have a chance to go to the big 2016-08-06 14:27:35.027 have a chance to go to the big 2016-08-06 14:27:38.015 city, learn their craft, and 2016-08-06 14:27:38.029 city, learn their craft, and 2016-08-06 14:27:40.016 become representative on stages, 2016-08-06 14:27:40.029 become representative on stages, 2016-08-06 14:27:42.026 in museums, and so on. 2016-08-06 14:27:42.039 in museums, and so on. 2016-08-06 14:27:43.064 This is at a time before women 2016-08-06 14:27:43.066 have the right to vote, so it 2016-08-06 14:27:43.077 This is at a time before women 2016-08-06 14:27:43.079 have the right to vote, so it 2016-08-06 14:27:46.045 was critically important. at 2016-08-06 14:27:46.058 was critically important. at 2016-08-06 14:27:49.043 there were at one point eight 2016-08-06 14:27:49.057 there were at one point eight 2016-08-06 14:27:53.044 such clubs located around the 2016-08-06 14:27:53.057 such clubs located around the 2016-08-06 14:27:54.045 world. 2016-08-06 14:27:54.058 world. 2016-08-06 14:28:01.043 London, Paris, New York, L.A. 2016-08-06 14:28:01.044 , 2016-08-06 14:28:01.056 London, Paris, New York, L.A. 2016-08-06 14:28:01.057 , 2016-08-06 14:28:05.044 Chicago, and Cincinnati and 2016-08-06 14:28:05.045 Cleveland. 2016-08-06 14:28:05.057 Chicago, and Cincinnati and 2016-08-06 14:28:05.058 Cleveland. 2016-08-06 14:28:06.048 They could stay there in 2016-08-06 14:28:06.061 They could stay there in 2016-08-06 14:28:08.048 subsidized housing under the 2016-08-06 14:28:08.061 subsidized housing under the 2016-08-06 14:28:10.046 watchful title of what might 2016-08-06 14:28:10.058 watchful title of what might 2016-08-06 14:28:12.05 title would have been -- what my 2016-08-06 14:28:12.052 title would have been in those 2016-08-06 14:28:12.063 title would have been -- what my 2016-08-06 14:28:12.065 title would have been in those 2016-08-06 14:28:17.086 days, "the direc 2016-08-06 14:28:17.086 tress." 2016-08-06 14:28:17.098 days, "the direc 2016-08-06 14:28:17.099 tress." 2016-08-06 14:28:22.094 As the world evolved a 2016-08-06 14:28:22.095 little 2016-08-06 14:28:22.108 As the world evolved a 2016-08-06 14:28:22.109 little 2016-08-06 14:28:24.13 bit, time went forward. 2016-08-06 14:28:24.132 All of the other clubs had 2016-08-06 14:28:24.143 bit, time went forward. 2016-08-06 14:28:24.145 All of the other clubs had 2016-08-06 14:28:29.133 closed, and our organization cap 2016-08-06 14:28:29.134 going as an alternative 2016-08-06 14:28:29.146 closed, and our organization cap 2016-08-06 14:28:29.148 going as an alternative 2016-08-06 14:28:32.13 dormitory for women studying the 2016-08-06 14:28:32.131 arts in Chicago. 2016-08-06 14:28:32.143 dormitory for women studying the 2016-08-06 14:28:32.144 arts in Chicago. 2016-08-06 14:28:34.131 All of the other arts schools 2016-08-06 14:28:34.132 did not have the 2016-08-06 14:28:34.144 All of the other arts schools 2016-08-06 14:28:34.145 did not have the 2016-08-06 14:28:38.128 state-of-the-art dorms they have 2016-08-06 14:28:38.141 state-of-the-art dorms they have 2016-08-06 14:28:39.128 right now. 2016-08-06 14:28:39.141 right now. 2016-08-06 14:28:40.132 I came on the scene -- I can't 2016-08-06 14:28:40.133 believe it -- 14 years ago. 2016-08-06 14:28:40.144 I came on the scene -- I can't 2016-08-06 14:28:40.146 believe it -- 14 years ago. 2016-08-06 14:28:44.138 And the board at that time hired 2016-08-06 14:28:44.151 And the board at that time hired 2016-08-06 14:28:48.132 me and said, we need to can 2016-08-06 14:28:48.146 me and said, we need to can 2016-08-06 14:28:49.132 temporize the mission. 2016-08-06 14:28:49.145 temporize the mission. 2016-08-06 14:28:54.17 This historic 2016-08-06 14:28:54.183 This historic 2016-08-06 14:28:55.17 property needs to 2016-08-06 14:28:55.183 property needs to 2016-08-06 14:28:56.171 go through change. 2016-08-06 14:28:56.184 go through change. 2016-08-06 14:28:57.17 I'm going to fast-forward 2016-08-06 14:28:57.183 I'm going to fast-forward 2016-08-06 14:28:59.171 through all we looked into doing 2016-08-06 14:28:59.184 through all we looked into doing 2016-08-06 14:29:01.172 and get to where we are now, 2016-08-06 14:29:01.173 right? 2016-08-06 14:29:01.185 and get to where we are now, 2016-08-06 14:29:01.186 right? 2016-08-06 14:29:07.171 And that is, we ended up 2016-08-06 14:29:07.172 selling 2016-08-06 14:29:07.174 that beautiful historic 2016-08-06 14:29:07.184 And that is, we ended up 2016-08-06 14:29:07.185 selling 2016-08-06 14:29:07.191 that beautiful historic 2016-08-06 14:29:11.17 property, because to just 2016-08-06 14:29:11.183 property, because to just 2016-08-06 14:29:13.17 restore and renovate it was 2016-08-06 14:29:13.183 restore and renovate it was 2016-08-06 14:29:14.179 about $30 million. 2016-08-06 14:29:14.192 about $30 million. 2016-08-06 14:29:17.216 It is a 50,000-square-foot 2016-08-06 14:29:17.217 property. 2016-08-06 14:29:17.228 It is a 50,000-square-foot 2016-08-06 14:29:17.23 property. 2016-08-06 14:29:18.219 We did not have the wherewithal 2016-08-06 14:29:18.221 to do that. 2016-08-06 14:29:18.232 We did not have the wherewithal 2016-08-06 14:29:18.234 to do that. 2016-08-06 14:29:22.217 We decided to carry forward the 2016-08-06 14:29:22.23 We decided to carry forward the 2016-08-06 14:29:24.267 tenants of our founding mother' 2016-08-06 14:29:24.28 tenants of our founding mother' 2016-08-06 14:29:31.298 s mission, Jane Adams' 2016-08-06 14:29:31.299 mission 2016-08-06 14:29:31.3 in thinking about social justice 2016-08-06 14:29:31.311 s mission, Jane Adams' 2016-08-06 14:29:31.312 mission 2016-08-06 14:29:31.313 in thinking about social justice 2016-08-06 14:29:32.301 and equity. 2016-08-06 14:29:32.314 and equity. 2016-08-06 14:29:35.296 And when I round -- when I went 2016-08-06 14:29:35.309 And when I round -- when I went 2016-08-06 14:29:39.296 around to organizations around 2016-08-06 14:29:39.309 around to organizations around 2016-08-06 14:29:41.296 the country, did research, and 2016-08-06 14:29:41.309 the country, did research, and 2016-08-06 14:29:42.3 found out who was receiving, for 2016-08-06 14:29:42.312 found out who was receiving, for 2016-08-06 14:29:44.299 example -- what artists were 2016-08-06 14:29:44.312 example -- what artists were 2016-08-06 14:29:49.296 receiving grants and awards and 2016-08-06 14:29:49.309 receiving grants and awards and 2016-08-06 14:29:50.298 so on, it became really clear 2016-08-06 14:29:50.311 so on, it became really clear 2016-08-06 14:29:52.34 that women were still 2016-08-06 14:29:52.353 that women were still 2016-08-06 14:29:54.381 underrepresented, underserved, 2016-08-06 14:29:54.394 underrepresented, underserved, 2016-08-06 14:29:58.379 especially in cash grants. 2016-08-06 14:29:58.392 especially in cash grants. 2016-08-06 14:30:01.381 But people of color even more so 2016-08-06 14:30:01.394 But people of color even more so 2016-08-06 14:30:02.383 and people with disabilities 2016-08-06 14:30:02.384 even more so. 2016-08-06 14:30:02.396 and people with disabilities 2016-08-06 14:30:02.397 even more so. 2016-08-06 14:30:04.382 We expanded on that founding 2016-08-06 14:30:04.395 We expanded on that founding 2016-08-06 14:30:09.391 mission to include these 2016-08-06 14:30:09.392 three 2016-08-06 14:30:09.404 mission to include these 2016-08-06 14:30:09.405 three 2016-08-06 14:30:10.383 groups of people. 2016-08-06 14:30:10.396 groups of people. 2016-08-06 14:30:12.39 I want to expand him one more 2016-08-06 14:30:12.403 I want to expand him one more 2016-08-06 14:30:13.383 thing, Christine, because I know 2016-08-06 14:30:13.397 thing, Christine, because I know 2016-08-06 14:30:15.385 you want to ask your questions. 2016-08-06 14:30:15.394 you want to ask your questions. 2016-08-06 14:30:20.383 There is a controversy in our 2016-08-06 14:30:20.397 There is a controversy in our 2016-08-06 14:30:21.381 mission, and I think it shines a 2016-08-06 14:30:21.395 mission, and I think it shines a 2016-08-06 14:30:22.386 light on the imperfection of 2016-08-06 14:30:22.388 words in the world. 2016-08-06 14:30:22.399 light on the imperfection of 2016-08-06 14:30:22.4 words in the world. 2016-08-06 14:30:26.426 You know, we had a choice. 2016-08-06 14:30:26.439 You know, we had a choice. 2016-08-06 14:30:30.427 We could say 3Arts supports 2016-08-06 14:30:30.44 We could say 3Arts supports 2016-08-06 14:30:32.426 underrepresented artists, and 2016-08-06 14:30:32.439 underrepresented artists, and 2016-08-06 14:30:36.427 then build into our national 2016-08-06 14:30:36.428 jury panels and nomination 2016-08-06 14:30:36.44 then build into our national 2016-08-06 14:30:36.441 jury panels and nomination 2016-08-06 14:30:39.426 systems that all of that a 2016-08-06 14:30:39.439 systems that all of that a 2016-08-06 14:30:42.425 desire to support diversity. 2016-08-06 14:30:42.438 desire to support diversity. 2016-08-06 14:30:45.426 But we really labored over this 2016-08-06 14:30:45.44 But we really labored over this 2016-08-06 14:30:46.426 and decided, you know what? 2016-08-06 14:30:46.428 We are to make an overt 2016-08-06 14:30:46.439 and decided, you know what? 2016-08-06 14:30:46.441 We are to make an overt 2016-08-06 14:30:51.425 statement -- again, as 2016-08-06 14:30:51.439 statement -- again, as 2016-08-06 14:30:52.427 uncomfortable as that make some 2016-08-06 14:30:52.44 uncomfortable as that make some 2016-08-06 14:30:55.425 people -- it is sort of in the 2016-08-06 14:30:55.427 same vein as affirmative action 2016-08-06 14:30:55.439 people -- it is sort of in the 2016-08-06 14:30:55.44 same vein as affirmative action 2016-08-06 14:30:59.424 made and still makes some old 2016-08-06 14:30:59.438 made and still makes some old 2016-08-06 14:31:00.428 uncomfortable, because we feel 2016-08-06 14:31:00.43 that is part of our advocacy. 2016-08-06 14:31:00.441 uncomfortable, because we feel 2016-08-06 14:31:00.443 that is part of our advocacy. 2016-08-06 14:31:06.427 We give 2016-08-06 14:31:06.44 We give 2016-08-06 14:31:10.425 unrestricted awards to 2016-08-06 14:31:10.438 unrestricted awards to 2016-08-06 14:31:12.426 artists each year in the Chicago 2016-08-06 14:31:12.427 area. 2016-08-06 14:31:12.439 artists each year in the Chicago 2016-08-06 14:31:12.444 area. 2016-08-06 14:31:13.426 Unrestricted, they can do what 2016-08-06 14:31:13.439 Unrestricted, they can do what 2016-08-06 14:31:15.425 ever they want. 2016-08-06 14:31:15.438 ever they want. 2016-08-06 14:31:18.426 Once you are an awardee of 2016-08-06 14:31:18.439 Once you are an awardee of 2016-08-06 14:31:19.423 hours, you can apply for an 2016-08-06 14:31:19.437 hours, you can apply for an 2016-08-06 14:31:21.426 international network of 2016-08-06 14:31:21.428 residency fellowship, all 2016-08-06 14:31:21.439 international network of 2016-08-06 14:31:21.441 residency fellowship, all 2016-08-06 14:31:26.428 expenses paid, airfare, 2016-08-06 14:31:26.441 expenses paid, airfare, 2016-08-06 14:31:27.426 monthlong residencies and places 2016-08-06 14:31:27.428 from France to Florida. 2016-08-06 14:31:27.439 monthlong residencies and places 2016-08-06 14:31:27.441 from France to Florida. 2016-08-06 14:31:32.429 We also offer project support 2016-08-06 14:31:32.431 for our awardees and other 2016-08-06 14:31:32.442 We also offer project support 2016-08-06 14:31:32.444 for our awardees and other 2016-08-06 14:31:35.425 organization artists in Chicago. 2016-08-06 14:31:35.438 organization artists in Chicago. 2016-08-06 14:31:41.424 It is crowdfunding, but 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:31:41.437 It is crowdfunding, but 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:31:42.426 pays for a third of every 2016-08-06 14:31:42.439 pays for a third of every 2016-08-06 14:31:44.427 project and I am proud to say we 2016-08-06 14:31:44.44 project and I am proud to say we 2016-08-06 14:31:46.429 have 100% success rate and 65 2016-08-06 14:31:46.442 have 100% success rate and 65 2016-08-06 14:31:47.435 projects funded to date. 2016-08-06 14:31:47.448 projects funded to date. 2016-08-06 14:31:48.425 That's it. 2016-08-06 14:31:48.438 That's it. 2016-08-06 14:31:53.428 >> OK, can you talk about which 2016-08-06 14:31:53.429 disciplines? 2016-08-06 14:31:53.441 >> OK, can you talk about which 2016-08-06 14:31:53.443 disciplines? 2016-08-06 14:31:59.446 Esther: 2016-08-06 14:31:59.459 Esther: 2016-08-06 14:32:00.443 Yes, I always forget -- 2016-08-06 14:32:00.456 Yes, I always forget -- 2016-08-06 14:32:03.424 anyway, the whole story of 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:32:03.438 anyway, the whole story of 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:32:06.428 is starting somewhere and 2016-08-06 14:32:06.429 growing and changing and 2016-08-06 14:32:06.44 is starting somewhere and 2016-08-06 14:32:06.442 growing and changing and 2016-08-06 14:32:07.427 listening and growing and 2016-08-06 14:32:07.429 changing and listening. 2016-08-06 14:32:07.44 listening and growing and 2016-08-06 14:32:07.442 changing and listening. 2016-08-06 14:32:10.429 We began with music, theater, 2016-08-06 14:32:10.442 We began with music, theater, 2016-08-06 14:32:12.426 and visual arts. 2016-08-06 14:32:12.44 and visual arts. 2016-08-06 14:32:17.427 We had 16,000 dollars when we 2016-08-06 14:32:17.429 opened our doors in 2008, and we 2016-08-06 14:32:17.44 We had 16,000 dollars when we 2016-08-06 14:32:17.442 opened our doors in 2008, and we 2016-08-06 14:32:22.429 read some studies about dance, 2016-08-06 14:32:22.431 especially in Chicago, and 2016-08-06 14:32:22.442 read some studies about dance, 2016-08-06 14:32:22.444 especially in Chicago, and 2016-08-06 14:32:24.468 recognized as is probably the 2016-08-06 14:32:24.481 recognized as is probably the 2016-08-06 14:32:27.47 most undernourished, in terms of 2016-08-06 14:32:27.483 most undernourished, in terms of 2016-08-06 14:32:31.468 funding, where we live. 2016-08-06 14:32:31.481 funding, where we live. 2016-08-06 14:32:33.473 I do not know if that is true 2016-08-06 14:32:33.475 here. 2016-08-06 14:32:33.486 I do not know if that is true 2016-08-06 14:32:33.488 here. 2016-08-06 14:32:34.472 Right, there you are. 2016-08-06 14:32:34.485 Right, there you are. 2016-08-06 14:32:35.474 So, we added dance. 2016-08-06 14:32:35.488 So, we added dance. 2016-08-06 14:32:39.469 I should say this -- when we 2016-08-06 14:32:39.482 I should say this -- when we 2016-08-06 14:32:42.471 sold the property, we invested 2016-08-06 14:32:42.484 sold the property, we invested 2016-08-06 14:32:45.471 the net proceeds from the sale 2016-08-06 14:32:45.484 the net proceeds from the sale 2016-08-06 14:32:48.473 -- you know, it was like mom and 2016-08-06 14:32:48.475 dad rubbing the two pennies 2016-08-06 14:32:48.487 -- you know, it was like mom and 2016-08-06 14:32:48.488 dad rubbing the two pennies 2016-08-06 14:32:51.517 together and saying, come on! 2016-08-06 14:32:51.53 together and saying, come on! 2016-08-06 14:32:55.523 When the recession hit, our 2016-08-06 14:32:55.536 When the recession hit, our 2016-08-06 14:32:58.568 portfolios went from $9.5 2016-08-06 14:32:58.581 portfolios went from $9.5 2016-08-06 14:33:03.565 million to $5 million. 2016-08-06 14:33:03.578 million to $5 million. 2016-08-06 14:33:06.567 That told us we needed to start 2016-08-06 14:33:06.569 fundraising. 2016-08-06 14:33:06.58 That told us we needed to start 2016-08-06 14:33:06.582 fundraising. 2016-08-06 14:33:12.567 We did a study that told 2016-08-06 14:33:12.58 We did a study that told 2016-08-06 14:33:15.567 us that 2016-08-06 14:33:15.58 us that 2016-08-06 14:33:16.602 artists are under employed at 2016-08-06 14:33:16.615 artists are under employed at 2016-08-06 14:33:17.598 twice the rate of other 2016-08-06 14:33:17.612 twice the rate of other 2016-08-06 14:33:18.6 professionals during the 2016-08-06 14:33:18.613 professionals during the 2016-08-06 14:33:19.601 recession, and we said, you 2016-08-06 14:33:19.614 recession, and we said, you 2016-08-06 14:33:20.637 know, that is double the amount 2016-08-06 14:33:20.65 know, that is double the amount 2016-08-06 14:33:21.648 of our award. 2016-08-06 14:33:21.661 of our award. 2016-08-06 14:33:26.677 We had dance, and then 2016-08-06 14:33:26.69 We had dance, and then 2016-08-06 14:33:27.676 we had 2016-08-06 14:33:27.689 we had 2016-08-06 14:33:28.678 teaching arts. 2016-08-06 14:33:28.691 teaching arts. 2016-08-06 14:33:30.678 Maybe that is something all of 2016-08-06 14:33:30.691 Maybe that is something all of 2016-08-06 14:33:31.679 you will feel some affinity for 2016-08-06 14:33:31.68 as well. 2016-08-06 14:33:31.693 you will feel some affinity for 2016-08-06 14:33:31.694 as well. 2016-08-06 14:33:34.683 These are artists that are in 2016-08-06 14:33:34.696 These are artists that are in 2016-08-06 14:33:37.684 the mix based on their own 2016-08-06 14:33:37.697 the mix based on their own 2016-08-06 14:33:42.684 artwork, projects that they 2016-08-06 14:33:42.697 artwork, projects that they 2016-08-06 14:33:43.684 create and prisons, hospitals, 2016-08-06 14:33:43.698 create and prisons, hospitals, 2016-08-06 14:33:44.68 schools, afterschool programs, 2016-08-06 14:33:44.681 and so on. 2016-08-06 14:33:44.693 schools, afterschool programs, 2016-08-06 14:33:44.694 and so on. 2016-08-06 14:33:49.678 >> that is great. 2016-08-06 14:33:49.692 >> that is great. 2016-08-06 14:33:50.724 I'm going to ask a question I 2016-08-06 14:33:50.737 I'm going to ask a question I 2016-08-06 14:33:54.816 have not asked already because I 2016-08-06 14:33:54.818 am interested, because I met 2016-08-06 14:33:54.829 have not asked already because I 2016-08-06 14:33:54.831 am interested, because I met 2016-08-06 14:33:58.818 Esther about three years ago 2016-08-06 14:33:58.831 Esther about three years ago 2016-08-06 14:34:03.853 when I came out and was a 2016-08-06 14:34:03.854 judge 2016-08-06 14:34:03.856 for these awards, which was a 2016-08-06 14:34:03.866 when I came out and was a 2016-08-06 14:34:03.867 judge 2016-08-06 14:34:03.868 for these awards, which was a 2016-08-06 14:34:05.866 fascinating experience for me. 2016-08-06 14:34:05.879 fascinating experience for me. 2016-08-06 14:34:09.887 I'm wondering where that funding 2016-08-06 14:34:09.9 I'm wondering where that funding 2016-08-06 14:34:10.896 comes from. 2016-08-06 14:34:10.909 comes from. 2016-08-06 14:34:15.932 For me as 2016-08-06 14:34:15.945 For me as 2016-08-06 14:34:16.931 an artist, when I 2016-08-06 14:34:16.944 an artist, when I 2016-08-06 14:34:17.937 heard $25,000 of unrestricted 2016-08-06 14:34:17.95 heard $25,000 of unrestricted 2016-08-06 14:34:22.932 cash grant to be used however 2016-08-06 14:34:22.946 cash grant to be used however 2016-08-06 14:34:23.934 you want, that was shocking to 2016-08-06 14:34:23.935 me. 2016-08-06 14:34:23.947 you want, that was shocking to 2016-08-06 14:34:23.948 me. 2016-08-06 14:34:29.932 So, I 2016-08-06 14:34:29.933 am really interested in 2016-08-06 14:34:29.935 the funding piece of it. 2016-08-06 14:34:29.945 So, I 2016-08-06 14:34:29.946 am really interested in 2016-08-06 14:34:29.948 the funding piece of it. 2016-08-06 14:34:35.93 Esther: Yeah, that is 2016-08-06 14:34:35.934 a good 2016-08-06 14:34:35.937 question. 2016-08-06 14:34:35.943 Esther: Yeah, that is 2016-08-06 14:34:35.944 a good 2016-08-06 14:34:35.945 question. 2016-08-06 14:34:37.931 It all goes back to the 2016-08-06 14:34:37.932 building. 2016-08-06 14:34:37.944 It all goes back to the 2016-08-06 14:34:37.945 building. 2016-08-06 14:34:41.931 In the old days, we paid using 2016-08-06 14:34:41.944 In the old days, we paid using 2016-08-06 14:34:42.94 our own money, the net proceeds 2016-08-06 14:34:42.942 we had invested. 2016-08-06 14:34:42.954 our own money, the net proceeds 2016-08-06 14:34:42.955 we had invested. 2016-08-06 14:34:49.939 We had may be 2016-08-06 14:34:49.94 $17,000 of 2016-08-06 14:34:49.952 We had may be 2016-08-06 14:34:49.953 $17,000 of 2016-08-06 14:34:50.932 contributed income that all came 2016-08-06 14:34:50.934 from our board that year. 2016-08-06 14:34:50.945 contributed income that all came 2016-08-06 14:34:50.946 from our board that year. 2016-08-06 14:34:54.974 Again, it was the rubbing of two 2016-08-06 14:34:54.987 Again, it was the rubbing of two 2016-08-06 14:34:58.017 pennies together and hoping. 2016-08-06 14:34:58.03 pennies together and hoping. 2016-08-06 14:35:03.07 The next year, we 2016-08-06 14:35:03.071 raised 74,000 2016-08-06 14:35:03.083 The next year, we 2016-08-06 14:35:03.084 raised 74,000 2016-08-06 14:35:05.066 dollars of contributed income 2016-08-06 14:35:05.068 and the next $100,000, but we 2016-08-06 14:35:05.08 dollars of contributed income 2016-08-06 14:35:05.081 and the next $100,000, but we 2016-08-06 14:35:09.07 were still making up the 2016-08-06 14:35:09.071 difference using our own 2016-08-06 14:35:09.073 coffers, essentially. 2016-08-06 14:35:09.083 were still making up the 2016-08-06 14:35:09.085 difference using our own 2016-08-06 14:35:09.086 coffers, essentially. 2016-08-06 14:35:13.069 When the investments had gone 2016-08-06 14:35:13.081 When the investments had gone 2016-08-06 14:35:15.074 well, the dividends and interest 2016-08-06 14:35:15.076 had spun off and were paying for 2016-08-06 14:35:15.087 well, the dividends and interest 2016-08-06 14:35:15.089 had spun off and were paying for 2016-08-06 14:35:20.098 our staff in those 2016-08-06 14:35:20.099 days, and we 2016-08-06 14:35:20.111 our staff in those 2016-08-06 14:35:20.112 days, and we 2016-08-06 14:35:21.099 were making a draw from the 2016-08-06 14:35:21.101 corpus and trying to increase 2016-08-06 14:35:21.113 were making a draw from the 2016-08-06 14:35:21.114 corpus and trying to increase 2016-08-06 14:35:26.097 fund raising efforts without a 2016-08-06 14:35:26.111 fund raising efforts without a 2016-08-06 14:35:28.098 fundraiser on staff, so it was 2016-08-06 14:35:28.111 fundraiser on staff, so it was 2016-08-06 14:35:29.101 kind of hard, and a seven-member 2016-08-06 14:35:29.102 board at the time. 2016-08-06 14:35:29.114 kind of hard, and a seven-member 2016-08-06 14:35:29.115 board at the time. 2016-08-06 14:35:34.099 At the end of 2014, there was a 2016-08-06 14:35:34.112 At the end of 2014, there was a 2016-08-06 14:35:39.099 big change at our organization. 2016-08-06 14:35:39.112 big change at our organization. 2016-08-06 14:35:41.101 I lobbied as hard as I think any 2016-08-06 14:35:41.114 I lobbied as hard as I think any 2016-08-06 14:35:43.1 executive director could, and we 2016-08-06 14:35:43.113 executive director could, and we 2016-08-06 14:35:44.103 hired a director of programs and 2016-08-06 14:35:44.116 hired a director of programs and 2016-08-06 14:35:47.14 they spent the last year 2016-08-06 14:35:47.153 they spent the last year 2016-08-06 14:35:49.142 training and she is now running 2016-08-06 14:35:49.143 them, except for the one we are 2016-08-06 14:35:49.155 training and she is now running 2016-08-06 14:35:49.157 them, except for the one we are 2016-08-06 14:35:51.141 going to talk about today. 2016-08-06 14:35:51.154 going to talk about today. 2016-08-06 14:35:56.185 And that left me in the 2016-08-06 14:35:56.186 woeful 2016-08-06 14:35:56.188 position, or I guess it depends 2016-08-06 14:35:56.198 And that left me in the 2016-08-06 14:35:56.199 woeful 2016-08-06 14:35:56.201 position, or I guess it depends 2016-08-06 14:35:59.225 on how you look at these things 2016-08-06 14:35:59.239 on how you look at these things 2016-08-06 14:36:01.227 -- to be the fundraiser we were 2016-08-06 14:36:01.228 missing before. 2016-08-06 14:36:01.24 -- to be the fundraiser we were 2016-08-06 14:36:01.241 missing before. 2016-08-06 14:36:02.225 To be a full-time fundraiser. 2016-08-06 14:36:02.238 To be a full-time fundraiser. 2016-08-06 14:36:08.225 Last year, we raised 2016-08-06 14:36:08.226 660 2016-08-06 14:36:08.238 Last year, we raised 2016-08-06 14:36:08.239 660 2016-08-06 14:36:13.226 thousand dollars of contributed 2016-08-06 14:36:13.239 thousand dollars of contributed 2016-08-06 14:36:14.225 income. 2016-08-06 14:36:14.238 income. 2016-08-06 14:36:16.228 Some corporations are basically 2016-08-06 14:36:16.241 Some corporations are basically 2016-08-06 14:36:18.226 sponsoring our annual awards 2016-08-06 14:36:18.228 presentation. 2016-08-06 14:36:18.23 We have naming opportunities for 2016-08-06 14:36:18.239 sponsoring our annual awards 2016-08-06 14:36:18.241 presentation. 2016-08-06 14:36:18.243 We have naming opportunities for 2016-08-06 14:36:23.227 our awards, so, you know, the 2016-08-06 14:36:23.241 our awards, so, you know, the 2016-08-06 14:36:25.227 Gardiner family gives us $25,000 2016-08-06 14:36:25.228 to name an award. 2016-08-06 14:36:25.24 Gardiner family gives us $25,000 2016-08-06 14:36:25.245 to name an award. 2016-08-06 14:36:31.225 That means it is the 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:36:31.226 G 2016-08-06 14:36:31.239 That means it is the 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:36:31.24 G 2016-08-06 14:36:35.23 ardener Family awards. 2016-08-06 14:36:35.24 ardener Family awards. 2016-08-06 14:36:39.226 We have a growing, but still 2016-08-06 14:36:39.239 We have a growing, but still 2016-08-06 14:36:40.227 small individual giving program. 2016-08-06 14:36:40.229 That is something that I have to 2016-08-06 14:36:40.23 work on more. 2016-08-06 14:36:40.24 small individual giving program. 2016-08-06 14:36:40.242 That is something that I have to 2016-08-06 14:36:40.243 work on more. 2016-08-06 14:36:44.226 It an interesting moment for me, 2016-08-06 14:36:44.239 It an interesting moment for me, 2016-08-06 14:36:48.318 to be really forthright, because 2016-08-06 14:36:48.32 I'm not a trained fundraiser. 2016-08-06 14:36:48.332 to be really forthright, because 2016-08-06 14:36:48.333 I'm not a trained fundraiser. 2016-08-06 14:36:51.317 I have no problems speaking 2016-08-06 14:36:51.331 I have no problems speaking 2016-08-06 14:36:52.318 passionately about what we do 2016-08-06 14:36:52.332 passionately about what we do 2016-08-06 14:36:53.32 and that is pretty much all I 2016-08-06 14:36:53.321 have to go on. 2016-08-06 14:36:53.333 and that is pretty much all I 2016-08-06 14:36:53.335 have to go on. 2016-08-06 14:36:58.39 I am 2016-08-06 14:36:58.391 still the only staff 2016-08-06 14:36:58.403 I am 2016-08-06 14:36:58.404 still the only staff 2016-08-06 14:36:59.392 working on fundraising. 2016-08-06 14:36:59.405 working on fundraising. 2016-08-06 14:37:00.393 This year, we are projecting, 2016-08-06 14:37:00.407 This year, we are projecting, 2016-08-06 14:37:02.391 knock on wood -- everybody knock 2016-08-06 14:37:02.404 knock on wood -- everybody knock 2016-08-06 14:37:07.408 on wood -- 2016-08-06 14:37:07.421 on wood -- 2016-08-06 14:37:08.391 $410,000 contributed 2016-08-06 14:37:08.404 $410,000 contributed 2016-08-06 14:37:09.393 income, and I think the sweet 2016-08-06 14:37:09.407 income, and I think the sweet 2016-08-06 14:37:10.436 spot will be when we can raise 2016-08-06 14:37:10.45 spot will be when we can raise 2016-08-06 14:37:14.441 at least $500,000. 2016-08-06 14:37:14.454 at least $500,000. 2016-08-06 14:37:16.436 Our budget is $970,000 -- all of 2016-08-06 14:37:16.438 the grants, the staff, 2016-08-06 14:37:16.449 Our budget is $970,000 -- all of 2016-08-06 14:37:16.451 the grants, the staff, 2016-08-06 14:37:20.437 everything. 2016-08-06 14:37:20.45 everything. 2016-08-06 14:37:23.436 If we can raise maybe 500,000 2016-08-06 14:37:23.438 dollars in contributed income, 2016-08-06 14:37:23.449 If we can raise maybe 500,000 2016-08-06 14:37:23.451 dollars in contributed income, 2016-08-06 14:37:26.435 and the rest can come from our 2016-08-06 14:37:26.448 and the rest can come from our 2016-08-06 14:37:28.475 portfolios, I think we have a 2016-08-06 14:37:28.488 portfolios, I think we have a 2016-08-06 14:37:29.477 chance to stay around for a 2016-08-06 14:37:29.491 chance to stay around for a 2016-08-06 14:37:30.476 while. 2016-08-06 14:37:30.49 while. 2016-08-06 14:37:32.476 Our goal is to be here in 2016-08-06 14:37:32.489 Our goal is to be here in 2016-08-06 14:37:34.478 perpetuity, so this fundraising 2016-08-06 14:37:34.491 perpetuity, so this fundraising 2016-08-06 14:37:36.478 business, as terrible as it is 2016-08-06 14:37:36.48 to bring up, is really 2016-08-06 14:37:36.481 important. 2016-08-06 14:37:36.491 business, as terrible as it is 2016-08-06 14:37:36.493 to bring up, is really 2016-08-06 14:37:36.494 important. 2016-08-06 14:37:40.478 >> yes, excellent. 2016-08-06 14:37:40.491 >> yes, excellent. 2016-08-06 14:37:45.477 Now we are going to get into the 2016-08-06 14:37:45.479 meat of why these two wonderful 2016-08-06 14:37:45.491 Now we are going to get into the 2016-08-06 14:37:45.492 meat of why these two wonderful 2016-08-06 14:37:48.477 people, I am sandwiched between 2016-08-06 14:37:48.491 people, I am sandwiched between 2016-08-06 14:37:51.478 them. 2016-08-06 14:37:51.491 them. 2016-08-06 14:37:54.477 So, was it -- is it three years 2016-08-06 14:37:54.491 So, was it -- is it three years 2016-08-06 14:37:55.478 or two years? 2016-08-06 14:37:55.492 or two years? 2016-08-06 14:37:58.521 Two years ago, you developed a 2016-08-06 14:37:58.535 Two years ago, you developed a 2016-08-06 14:38:03.517 new program. 2016-08-06 14:38:03.53 new program. 2016-08-06 14:38:05.524 And of course I wrote it down, 2016-08-06 14:38:05.537 And of course I wrote it down, 2016-08-06 14:38:06.518 exactly what it was called. 2016-08-06 14:38:06.531 exactly what it was called. 2016-08-06 14:38:11.519 The 3Arts disability culture 2016-08-06 14:38:11.52 Fellowship? 2016-08-06 14:38:11.532 The 3Arts disability culture 2016-08-06 14:38:11.533 Fellowship? 2016-08-06 14:38:17.55 The 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:38:17.551 fellowship in culture 2016-08-06 14:38:17.553 and disability? 2016-08-06 14:38:17.563 The 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:38:17.564 fellowship in culture 2016-08-06 14:38:17.566 and disability? 2016-08-06 14:38:22.519 Esther: no, just 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:38:22.52 fellowship. 2016-08-06 14:38:22.532 Esther: no, just 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:38:22.533 fellowship. 2016-08-06 14:38:28.567 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:38:28.568 fellowship at the 2016-08-06 14:38:28.569 University of Chicago, that's 2016-08-06 14:38:28.57 the name. 2016-08-06 14:38:28.581 3Arts 2016-08-06 14:38:28.582 fellowship at the 2016-08-06 14:38:28.584 University of Chicago, that's 2016-08-06 14:38:28.585 the name. 2016-08-06 14:38:33.619 >> can you tell us 2016-08-06 14:38:33.62 what that is 2016-08-06 14:38:33.622 and how it came about? 2016-08-06 14:38:33.632 >> can you tell us 2016-08-06 14:38:33.638 what that is 2016-08-06 14:38:33.639 and how it came about? 2016-08-06 14:38:36.618 Esther: Because the other party 2016-08-06 14:38:36.631 Esther: Because the other party 2016-08-06 14:38:41.627 is far more 2016-08-06 14:38:41.628 interesting than I 2016-08-06 14:38:41.64 is far more 2016-08-06 14:38:41.642 interesting than I 2016-08-06 14:38:42.632 am -- I am the nuts and bolts 2016-08-06 14:38:42.645 am -- I am the nuts and bolts 2016-08-06 14:38:44.627 part of the team. 2016-08-06 14:38:44.628 I alluded to the fact we haven't 2016-08-06 14:38:44.641 part of the team. 2016-08-06 14:38:44.643 I alluded to the fact we haven't 2016-08-06 14:38:48.649 awards presentation every year 2016-08-06 14:38:48.651 at the easy them of contemporary 2016-08-06 14:38:48.662 awards presentation every year 2016-08-06 14:38:48.664 at the easy them of contemporary 2016-08-06 14:38:52.654 Art in Chicago -- we have an 2016-08-06 14:38:52.655 awards presentation every year 2016-08-06 14:38:52.667 Art in Chicago -- we have an 2016-08-06 14:38:52.669 awards presentation every year 2016-08-06 14:38:58.689 at the 2016-08-06 14:38:58.69 Museum of contemporary 2016-08-06 14:38:58.691 Art in Chicago. 2016-08-06 14:38:58.702 at the 2016-08-06 14:38:58.703 Museum of contemporary 2016-08-06 14:38:58.704 Art in Chicago. 2016-08-06 14:39:04.689 It seems like we have 2016-08-06 14:39:04.69 a backward 2016-08-06 14:39:04.691 approach. 2016-08-06 14:39:04.702 It seems like we have 2016-08-06 14:39:04.703 a backward 2016-08-06 14:39:04.704 approach. 2016-08-06 14:39:06.689 A lot of organizations are 2016-08-06 14:39:06.703 A lot of organizations are 2016-08-06 14:39:07.689 thinking of audiences when they 2016-08-06 14:39:07.69 think about accessibility. 2016-08-06 14:39:07.702 thinking of audiences when they 2016-08-06 14:39:07.704 think about accessibility. 2016-08-06 14:39:10.689 We were thinking about artist's, 2016-08-06 14:39:10.702 We were thinking about artist's, 2016-08-06 14:39:12.688 because that is who we serve. 2016-08-06 14:39:12.702 because that is who we serve. 2016-08-06 14:39:13.691 We looked out into the artist 2016-08-06 14:39:13.705 We looked out into the artist 2016-08-06 14:39:14.692 and realized we had made a 2016-08-06 14:39:14.705 and realized we had made a 2016-08-06 14:39:16.688 mistake. 2016-08-06 14:39:16.701 mistake. 2016-08-06 14:39:18.732 We were doing everything we 2016-08-06 14:39:18.734 could do, because I could see no 2016-08-06 14:39:18.745 We were doing everything we 2016-08-06 14:39:18.747 could do, because I could see no 2016-08-06 14:39:21.772 one with at least physical 2016-08-06 14:39:21.785 one with at least physical 2016-08-06 14:39:23.771 disability is in the audience, 2016-08-06 14:39:23.785 disability is in the audience, 2016-08-06 14:39:26.774 whereas we had artists on the 2016-08-06 14:39:26.786 whereas we had artists on the 2016-08-06 14:39:32.773 stage 2016-08-06 14:39:32.774 representing disability 2016-08-06 14:39:32.786 stage 2016-08-06 14:39:32.787 representing disability 2016-08-06 14:39:33.772 culture. 2016-08-06 14:39:33.785 culture. 2016-08-06 14:39:34.776 This was an eye-opening 2016-08-06 14:39:34.784 This was an eye-opening 2016-08-06 14:39:36.773 experience from which I have 2016-08-06 14:39:36.775 never returned. 2016-08-06 14:39:36.777 It almost made me stumble in my 2016-08-06 14:39:36.787 experience from which I have 2016-08-06 14:39:36.788 never returned. 2016-08-06 14:39:36.79 It almost made me stumble in my 2016-08-06 14:39:40.774 speech as I saw that, and I 2016-08-06 14:39:40.787 speech as I saw that, and I 2016-08-06 14:39:41.772 contacted someone some of you 2016-08-06 14:39:41.785 contacted someone some of you 2016-08-06 14:39:45.773 might know -- Dr. Carey Sandahl, 2016-08-06 14:39:45.787 might know -- Dr. Carey Sandahl, 2016-08-06 14:39:48.772 a theater artist and a force in 2016-08-06 14:39:48.785 a theater artist and a force in 2016-08-06 14:39:54.773 the disability culture 2016-08-06 14:39:54.774 community. 2016-08-06 14:39:54.786 the disability culture 2016-08-06 14:39:54.788 community. 2016-08-06 14:39:58.819 I said, what are we doing wrong? 2016-08-06 14:39:58.82 She said, come to my office. 2016-08-06 14:39:58.832 I said, what are we doing wrong? 2016-08-06 14:39:58.834 She said, come to my office. 2016-08-06 14:40:03.827 We ironed out how we would have 2016-08-06 14:40:03.841 We ironed out how we would have 2016-08-06 14:40:04.825 personal assistance and ASL 2016-08-06 14:40:04.838 personal assistance and ASL 2016-08-06 14:40:05.818 signing, and what else did we 2016-08-06 14:40:05.831 signing, and what else did we 2016-08-06 14:40:07.827 have, Gina? 2016-08-06 14:40:07.829 Captioning. 2016-08-06 14:40:07.833 have, Gina? 2016-08-06 14:40:07.834 Captioning. 2016-08-06 14:40:11.819 We captioned all of our award 2016-08-06 14:40:11.821 vehicles. 2016-08-06 14:40:11.833 We captioned all of our award 2016-08-06 14:40:11.834 vehicles. 2016-08-06 14:40:13.825 We hard captioned them. 2016-08-06 14:40:13.838 We hard captioned them. 2016-08-06 14:40:16.899 We did not rely on screen 2016-08-06 14:40:16.901 readers because we were getting 2016-08-06 14:40:16.912 We did not rely on screen 2016-08-06 14:40:16.914 readers because we were getting 2016-08-06 14:40:20.899 gobbledygook when we did. 2016-08-06 14:40:20.901 We have gone through seven years 2016-08-06 14:40:20.912 gobbledygook when we did. 2016-08-06 14:40:20.914 We have gone through seven years 2016-08-06 14:40:23.899 of award videos and four years 2016-08-06 14:40:23.912 of award videos and four years 2016-08-06 14:40:25.906 of project videos. 2016-08-06 14:40:25.919 of project videos. 2016-08-06 14:40:27.947 Did all of that. 2016-08-06 14:40:27.96 Did all of that. 2016-08-06 14:40:29.94 In the next couple of years, 2016-08-06 14:40:29.942 standing at the podium, I 2016-08-06 14:40:29.953 In the next couple of years, 2016-08-06 14:40:29.955 standing at the podium, I 2016-08-06 14:40:37.942 realized we maxed out the 2016-08-06 14:40:37.944 seating, there were seeing eye 2016-08-06 14:40:37.955 realized we maxed out the 2016-08-06 14:40:37.957 seating, there were seeing eye 2016-08-06 14:40:38.939 dogs in the audience. 2016-08-06 14:40:38.952 dogs in the audience. 2016-08-06 14:40:41.985 I did not know about audio 2016-08-06 14:40:41.999 I did not know about audio 2016-08-06 14:40:45.983 description and I was giving a 2016-08-06 14:40:45.985 talk at the Society of 2016-08-06 14:40:45.996 description and I was giving a 2016-08-06 14:40:45.998 talk at the Society of 2016-08-06 14:40:47.986 disability studies conference 2016-08-06 14:40:47.999 disability studies conference 2016-08-06 14:40:50.985 and some of he said, what about 2016-08-06 14:40:50.985 audio description? 2016-08-06 14:40:50.999 and some of he said, what about 2016-08-06 14:40:51 audio description? 2016-08-06 14:40:51.988 I said, you can hear everything. 2016-08-06 14:40:52.001 I said, you can hear everything. 2016-08-06 14:40:54.997 And they said, yeah, but you 2016-08-06 14:40:54.998 have dance on stage. 2016-08-06 14:40:55.011 And they said, yeah, but you 2016-08-06 14:40:55.012 have dance on stage. 2016-08-06 14:40:59.025 I am sharing this with you, 2016-08-06 14:40:59.038 I am sharing this with you, 2016-08-06 14:41:02.068 because really our story is a 2016-08-06 14:41:02.081 because really our story is a 2016-08-06 14:41:06.073 natural story of that which we 2016-08-06 14:41:06.086 natural story of that which we 2016-08-06 14:41:08.125 didn't know and having to keep 2016-08-06 14:41:08.126 our ears open. 2016-08-06 14:41:08.138 didn't know and having to keep 2016-08-06 14:41:08.139 our ears open. 2016-08-06 14:41:11.117 So, I went back to her with one 2016-08-06 14:41:11.118 problem we had observed. 2016-08-06 14:41:11.143 So, I went back to her with one 2016-08-06 14:41:11.145 problem we had observed. 2016-08-06 14:41:19.149 In this international Fellowship 2016-08-06 14:41:19.163 In this international Fellowship 2016-08-06 14:41:21.151 , I realized the artists with 2016-08-06 14:41:21.164 , I realized the artists with 2016-08-06 14:41:23.151 disabilities we support or not 2016-08-06 14:41:23.153 applying, and I talked to a 2016-08-06 14:41:23.164 disabilities we support or not 2016-08-06 14:41:23.166 applying, and I talked to a 2016-08-06 14:41:25.154 couple and I said, why don't you 2016-08-06 14:41:25.168 couple and I said, why don't you 2016-08-06 14:41:30.193 want to be 2016-08-06 14:41:30.207 want to be 2016-08-06 14:41:31.191 friends, weight and 2016-08-06 14:41:31.204 friends, weight and 2016-08-06 14:41:32.19 you want to go to the 2016-08-06 14:41:32.192 Rauschenberg residency on 2016-08-06 14:41:32.204 you want to go to the 2016-08-06 14:41:32.205 Rauschenberg residency on 2016-08-06 14:41:37.19 Captiva Island? 2016-08-06 14:41:37.203 Captiva Island? 2016-08-06 14:41:39.194 They said to be 45 minutes away 2016-08-06 14:41:39.207 They said to be 45 minutes away 2016-08-06 14:41:40.192 from the nearest medical 2016-08-06 14:41:40.194 facility is not something I can 2016-08-06 14:41:40.195 do. 2016-08-06 14:41:40.206 from the nearest medical 2016-08-06 14:41:40.207 facility is not something I can 2016-08-06 14:41:40.208 do. 2016-08-06 14:41:43.191 And I thought, I am going to 2016-08-06 14:41:43.204 And I thought, I am going to 2016-08-06 14:41:46.195 call Carey. 2016-08-06 14:41:46.208 call Carey. 2016-08-06 14:41:51.191 I said, I have an idea. 2016-08-06 14:41:51.204 I said, I have an idea. 2016-08-06 14:41:54.193 I will create customized 2016-08-06 14:41:54.207 I will create customized 2016-08-06 14:41:58.235 residency fellowships locally 2016-08-06 14:41:58.237 that do not travel, but still 2016-08-06 14:41:58.249 residency fellowships locally 2016-08-06 14:41:58.25 that do not travel, but still 2016-08-06 14:42:02.275 have prestige. 2016-08-06 14:42:02.288 have prestige. 2016-08-06 14:42:03.274 Who is a good partner? 2016-08-06 14:42:03.288 Who is a good partner? 2016-08-06 14:42:04.287 Where do I go? 2016-08-06 14:42:04.289 In under a minute, the program 2016-08-06 14:42:04.3 Where do I go? 2016-08-06 14:42:04.302 In under a minute, the program 2016-08-06 14:42:08.276 was basically a gun because she 2016-08-06 14:42:08.277 said, UIC. 2016-08-06 14:42:08.289 was basically a gun because she 2016-08-06 14:42:08.29 said, UIC. 2016-08-06 14:42:10.277 We will do it. 2016-08-06 14:42:10.291 We will do it. 2016-08-06 14:42:14.276 Did I go on a tangent? 2016-08-06 14:42:14.289 Did I go on a tangent? 2016-08-06 14:42:15.278 She is letting me go. 2016-08-06 14:42:15.28 I'm sorry. 2016-08-06 14:42:15.292 She is letting me go. 2016-08-06 14:42:15.293 I'm sorry. 2016-08-06 14:42:17.277 It is a long story. 2016-08-06 14:42:17.291 It is a long story. 2016-08-06 14:42:20.277 I am trying my best to fast 2016-08-06 14:42:20.291 I am trying my best to fast 2016-08-06 14:42:21.277 forward we sat down over many 2016-08-06 14:42:21.29 forward we sat down over many 2016-08-06 14:42:24.318 months and talked about what we 2016-08-06 14:42:24.331 months and talked about what we 2016-08-06 14:42:27.317 wanted to do with this program. 2016-08-06 14:42:27.331 wanted to do with this program. 2016-08-06 14:42:29.319 All of our other residencies -- 2016-08-06 14:42:29.332 All of our other residencies -- 2016-08-06 14:42:30.326 almost all of them -- our 2016-08-06 14:42:30.342 almost all of them -- our 2016-08-06 14:42:33.32 retreat style residencies, and 2016-08-06 14:42:33.322 we thought, this one might be a 2016-08-06 14:42:33.333 retreat style residencies, and 2016-08-06 14:42:33.335 we thought, this one might be a 2016-08-06 14:42:37.372 little bit different. 2016-08-06 14:42:37.375 It might be really focused on an 2016-08-06 14:42:37.383 little bit different. 2016-08-06 14:42:37.384 It might be really focused on an 2016-08-06 14:42:42.369 issue we both had taught me to 2016-08-06 14:42:42.383 issue we both had taught me to 2016-08-06 14:42:44.369 understand about a will is full 2016-08-06 14:42:44.382 understand about a will is full 2016-08-06 14:42:54.369 -- a woeful dearth 2016-08-06 14:42:54.382 -- a woeful dearth 2016-08-06 14:42:54.418 of 2016-08-06 14:42:54.431 of 2016-08-06 14:42:55.419 opportunities for artists with 2016-08-06 14:42:55.42 disabilities. 2016-08-06 14:42:55.432 opportunities for artists with 2016-08-06 14:42:55.434 disabilities. 2016-08-06 14:42:58.477 So there is a circular problem 2016-08-06 14:42:58.479 here. 2016-08-06 14:42:58.491 So there is a circular problem 2016-08-06 14:42:58.492 here. 2016-08-06 14:43:03.486 UIC 2016-08-06 14:43:03.487 represents artists with 2016-08-06 14:43:03.489 disabilities, but if they are 2016-08-06 14:43:03.499 UIC 2016-08-06 14:43:03.501 represents artists with 2016-08-06 14:43:03.502 disabilities, but if they are 2016-08-06 14:43:08.495 not finding their way 2016-08-06 14:43:08.496 onto 2016-08-06 14:43:08.498 stages and gallery walls, how do 2016-08-06 14:43:08.503 not finding their way onto 2016-08-06 14:43:08.505 stages and gallery walls, how do 2016-08-06 14:43:14.485 we find these artists 2016-08-06 14:43:14.486 to bring 2016-08-06 14:43:14.499 we find these artists 2016-08-06 14:43:14.499 to bring 2016-08-06 14:43:15.486 into residencies and awards? 2016-08-06 14:43:15.5 into residencies and awards? 2016-08-06 14:43:16.488 It's a very confusing dilemma. 2016-08-06 14:43:16.501 It's a very confusing dilemma. 2016-08-06 14:43:21.488 We decided a solution might be 2016-08-06 14:43:21.49 to build into this professional 2016-08-06 14:43:21.492 development Fellowship a series 2016-08-06 14:43:21.502 We decided a solution might be 2016-08-06 14:43:21.504 to build into this professional 2016-08-06 14:43:21.505 development Fellowship a series 2016-08-06 14:43:27.488 of public events, a chance 2016-08-06 14:43:27.489 to 2016-08-06 14:43:27.501 of public events, a chance 2016-08-06 14:43:27.502 to 2016-08-06 14:43:28.487 perform publicly, a chance to be 2016-08-06 14:43:28.501 perform publicly, a chance to be 2016-08-06 14:43:31.569 placed under the spotlight in 2016-08-06 14:43:31.582 placed under the spotlight in 2016-08-06 14:43:32.572 stages around Chicago, a chance 2016-08-06 14:43:32.585 stages around Chicago, a chance 2016-08-06 14:43:35.569 to speak on panels, to raise 2016-08-06 14:43:35.585 to speak on panels, to raise 2016-08-06 14:43:39.571 awareness. 2016-08-06 14:43:39.573 It is a path, I guess, to 2016-08-06 14:43:39.585 awareness. 2016-08-06 14:43:39.586 It is a path, I guess, to 2016-08-06 14:43:44.574 supporting artists, but also 2016-08-06 14:43:44.578 increasing the dialogue around a 2016-08-06 14:43:44.585 supporting artists, but also 2016-08-06 14:43:44.587 increasing the dialogue around a 2016-08-06 14:43:47.572 city about disability culture 2016-08-06 14:43:47.574 and trying to make a change. 2016-08-06 14:43:47.586 city about disability culture 2016-08-06 14:43:47.587 and trying to make a change. 2016-08-06 14:43:53.573 Artists receive 2016-08-06 14:43:53.574 a $1500 stipend. 2016-08-06 14:43:53.576 It can be within a two or 2016-08-06 14:43:53.586 Artists receive 2016-08-06 14:43:53.587 a $1500 stipend. 2016-08-06 14:43:53.589 It can be within a two or 2016-08-06 14:43:56.57 three-month period. 2016-08-06 14:43:56.584 three-month period. 2016-08-06 14:44:00.62 Artists do not have to be there 2016-08-06 14:44:00.633 Artists do not have to be there 2016-08-06 14:44:02.62 at set times. 2016-08-06 14:44:02.633 at set times. 2016-08-06 14:44:03.669 We pay for the accommodations. 2016-08-06 14:44:03.683 We pay for the accommodations. 2016-08-06 14:44:08.677 UIC offers 2016-08-06 14:44:08.691 UIC offers 2016-08-06 14:44:09.669 paid teaching 2016-08-06 14:44:09.682 paid teaching 2016-08-06 14:44:10.67 opportunity, paid artist gigs, 2016-08-06 14:44:10.671 and again, we have public 2016-08-06 14:44:10.683 opportunity, paid artist gigs, 2016-08-06 14:44:10.685 and again, we have public 2016-08-06 14:44:13.668 panels, public presentations 2016-08-06 14:44:13.682 panels, public presentations 2016-08-06 14:44:14.67 woven in. 2016-08-06 14:44:14.683 woven in. 2016-08-06 14:44:17.668 In our first year, it was such a 2016-08-06 14:44:17.67 pilot year. 2016-08-06 14:44:17.682 In our first year, it was such a 2016-08-06 14:44:17.684 pilot year. 2016-08-06 14:44:19.67 It was a customized residency 2016-08-06 14:44:19.672 that we worked on with the 2016-08-06 14:44:19.684 It was a customized residency 2016-08-06 14:44:19.686 that we worked on with the 2016-08-06 14:44:22.741 artist's, and there -- with the 2016-08-06 14:44:22.754 artist's, and there -- with the 2016-08-06 14:44:27.738 artists, and there were lots of 2016-08-06 14:44:27.752 artists, and there were lots of 2016-08-06 14:44:28.779 missteps and learning curves, 2016-08-06 14:44:28.793 missteps and learning curves, 2016-08-06 14:44:33.821 but two of the artist 2016-08-06 14:44:33.822 s made 2016-08-06 14:44:33.835 but two of the artist 2016-08-06 14:44:33.836 s made 2016-08-06 14:44:36.822 exceptional work including 2016-08-06 14:44:36.835 exceptional work including 2016-08-06 14:44:38.869 Robert sleigh for, a theater 2016-08-06 14:44:38.871 artist and a teaching artist to 2016-08-06 14:44:38.883 Robert sleigh for, a theater 2016-08-06 14:44:38.889 artist and a teaching artist to 2016-08-06 14:44:43.878 is -- wh 2016-08-06 14:44:43.892 is -- wh 2016-08-06 14:44:47.92 o is deaf, who wanted 2016-08-06 14:44:47.934 o is deaf, who wanted 2016-08-06 14:44:51.919 to translate into ASL. 2016-08-06 14:44:51.933 to translate into ASL. 2016-08-06 14:44:52.92 That is what we helped him do. 2016-08-06 14:44:52.933 That is what we helped him do. 2016-08-06 14:44:53.921 I'm pleased to announce that 2016-08-06 14:44:53.934 I'm pleased to announce that 2016-08-06 14:44:57.989 Steppenwolf Theatre Company is 2016-08-06 14:44:58.003 Steppenwolf Theatre Company is 2016-08-06 14:44:59.033 going to be showing that. 2016-08-06 14:44:59.046 going to be showing that. 2016-08-06 14:45:01.04 Not on the main stage, but what 2016-08-06 14:45:01.041 is it -- 2016-08-06 14:45:01.054 Not on the main stage, but what 2016-08-06 14:45:01.055 is it -- 2016-08-06 14:45:07.032 >> 2016-08-06 14:45:07.033 publicly I declined to talk 2016-08-06 14:45:07.035 about that. 2016-08-06 14:45:07.045 >> 2016-08-06 14:45:07.047 publicly I declined to talk 2016-08-06 14:45:07.048 about that. 2016-08-06 14:45:12.041 >> 2016-08-06 14:45:12.042 OK, so we started to see some 2016-08-06 14:45:12.044 momentum here. 2016-08-06 14:45:12.054 >> 2016-08-06 14:45:12.056 OK, so we started to see some 2016-08-06 14:45:12.057 momentum here. 2016-08-06 14:45:18.031 Through our UIC 2016-08-06 14:45:18.032 fellows, we are 2016-08-06 14:45:18.045 Through our UIC 2016-08-06 14:45:18.046 fellows, we are 2016-08-06 14:45:20.051 getting into the early stages. 2016-08-06 14:45:20.065 getting into the early stages. 2016-08-06 14:45:23.033 Our last fellow worked on a solo 2016-08-06 14:45:23.046 Our last fellow worked on a solo 2016-08-06 14:45:25.042 show called "a little bit not 2016-08-06 14:45:25.056 show called "a little bit not 2016-08-06 14:45:26.047 normal." 2016-08-06 14:45:26.061 normal." 2016-08-06 14:45:31.121 She is an 2016-08-06 14:45:31.122 artist talking about 2016-08-06 14:45:31.124 mental illness and growing up 2016-08-06 14:45:31.135 She is an 2016-08-06 14:45:31.136 artist talking about 2016-08-06 14:45:31.137 mental illness and growing up 2016-08-06 14:45:35.12 the daughter of deaf parents and 2016-08-06 14:45:35.133 the daughter of deaf parents and 2016-08-06 14:45:37.12 all of that is woven in the 2016-08-06 14:45:37.134 all of that is woven in the 2016-08-06 14:45:42.118 autograph it were -- the 2016-08-06 14:45:42.132 autograph it were -- the 2016-08-06 14:45:43.12 autobiographical piece. 2016-08-06 14:45:43.133 autobiographical piece. 2016-08-06 14:45:45.122 We just got word that that is 2016-08-06 14:45:45.124 being picked up. 2016-08-06 14:45:45.136 We just got word that that is 2016-08-06 14:45:45.137 being picked up. 2016-08-06 14:45:46.118 This little program -- for 2016-08-06 14:45:46.132 This little program -- for 2016-08-06 14:45:53.175 artists -- 2016-08-06 14:45:53.176 4 artists so far -- 2016-08-06 14:45:53.188 artists -- 2016-08-06 14:45:53.189 4 artists so far -- 2016-08-06 14:45:58.171 I must give kudos to an 2016-08-06 14:45:58.172 organization that really 2016-08-06 14:45:58.184 I must give kudos to an 2016-08-06 14:45:58.186 organization that really 2016-08-06 14:45:59.169 deserves them. 2016-08-06 14:45:59.183 deserves them. 2016-08-06 14:46:12.24 >> I have a quick question 2016-08-06 14:46:12.254 >> I have a quick question 2016-08-06 14:46:14.239 before we get to the recipient 2016-08-06 14:46:14.254 before we get to the recipient 2016-08-06 14:46:16.241 of this fellowship. 2016-08-06 14:46:16.255 of this fellowship. 2016-08-06 14:46:19.243 We talked on the phone about the 2016-08-06 14:46:19.256 We talked on the phone about the 2016-08-06 14:46:23.242 fact that you move back and 2016-08-06 14:46:23.256 fact that you move back and 2016-08-06 14:46:26.283 forth in trying to decide, well, 2016-08-06 14:46:26.296 forth in trying to decide, well, 2016-08-06 14:46:28.282 if you want to make these 2016-08-06 14:46:28.296 if you want to make these 2016-08-06 14:46:32.287 fellowships specific 2016-08-06 14:46:32.301 fellowships specific 2016-08-06 14:46:34.285 residencies, and what was the 2016-08-06 14:46:34.3 residencies, and what was the 2016-08-06 14:46:36.286 discussion around that in terms 2016-08-06 14:46:36.299 discussion around that in terms 2016-08-06 14:46:42.283 of how to identify the 2016-08-06 14:46:42.284 artist, 2016-08-06 14:46:42.297 of how to identify the 2016-08-06 14:46:42.298 artist, 2016-08-06 14:46:45.29 the community you were trying to 2016-08-06 14:46:45.303 the community you were trying to 2016-08-06 14:46:50.326 target without singling 2016-08-06 14:46:50.327 the 2016-08-06 14:46:50.34 target without singling 2016-08-06 14:46:50.341 the 2016-08-06 14:46:51.326 community out? 2016-08-06 14:46:51.34 community out? 2016-08-06 14:46:56.369 Esther: 2016-08-06 14:46:56.37 Yes, I alluded to this 2016-08-06 14:46:56.384 Esther: 2016-08-06 14:46:56.385 Yes, I alluded to this 2016-08-06 14:47:02.37 already, the disability -- 2016-08-06 14:47:02.371 the 2016-08-06 14:47:02.384 already, the disability -- 2016-08-06 14:47:02.385 the 2016-08-06 14:47:04.37 disabilities of language and 2016-08-06 14:47:04.372 identity politics, I guess, you 2016-08-06 14:47:04.385 disabilities of language and 2016-08-06 14:47:04.386 identity politics, I guess, you 2016-08-06 14:47:05.37 would say? 2016-08-06 14:47:05.384 would say? 2016-08-06 14:47:11.418 We 2016-08-06 14:47:11.431 We 2016-08-06 14:47:13.418 knew we would have a program 2016-08-06 14:47:13.432 knew we would have a program 2016-08-06 14:47:16.419 supporting individual artists 2016-08-06 14:47:16.433 supporting individual artists 2016-08-06 14:47:18.424 creating the work they want to 2016-08-06 14:47:18.438 creating the work they want to 2016-08-06 14:47:19.432 create in the world and artists 2016-08-06 14:47:19.445 create in the world and artists 2016-08-06 14:47:20.42 creating a dialogue around 2016-08-06 14:47:20.422 disability culture. 2016-08-06 14:47:20.434 creating a dialogue around 2016-08-06 14:47:20.436 disability culture. 2016-08-06 14:47:23.423 To get to what Christine is 2016-08-06 14:47:23.436 To get to what Christine is 2016-08-06 14:47:27.423 getting at, we wrote our first 2016-08-06 14:47:27.425 press release, and the banner 2016-08-06 14:47:27.437 getting at, we wrote our first 2016-08-06 14:47:27.439 press release, and the banner 2016-08-06 14:47:32.494 said -- first ever 2016-08-06 14:47:32.496 university-based fellowship 2016-08-06 14:47:32.508 said -- first ever 2016-08-06 14:47:32.51 university-based fellowship 2016-08-06 14:47:36.536 supports artists with 2016-08-06 14:47:36.538 disabilities. 2016-08-06 14:47:36.539 And because we really care what 2016-08-06 14:47:36.55 supports artists with 2016-08-06 14:47:36.551 disabilities. 2016-08-06 14:47:36.553 And because we really care what 2016-08-06 14:47:41.577 artists think 2016-08-06 14:47:41.578 , that got ran past 2016-08-06 14:47:41.579 a couple artists with 2016-08-06 14:47:41.59 artists think 2016-08-06 14:47:41.591 , that got ran past 2016-08-06 14:47:41.593 a couple artists with 2016-08-06 14:47:46.575 disabilities who gave us the 2016-08-06 14:47:46.589 disabilities who gave us the 2016-08-06 14:47:50.577 input, I thought you picked me 2016-08-06 14:47:50.591 input, I thought you picked me 2016-08-06 14:47:52.576 for this because I'm making 2016-08-06 14:47:52.59 for this because I'm making 2016-08-06 14:47:53.579 great work, not because I'm an 2016-08-06 14:47:53.593 great work, not because I'm an 2016-08-06 14:47:56.577 artist with a disability. 2016-08-06 14:47:56.579 We kind of thought about that. 2016-08-06 14:47:56.591 artist with a disability. 2016-08-06 14:47:56.593 We kind of thought about that. 2016-08-06 14:48:01.579 We thought about, it really is 2016-08-06 14:48:01.581 for artists with disabilities, 2016-08-06 14:48:01.593 We thought about, it really is 2016-08-06 14:48:01.594 for artists with disabilities, 2016-08-06 14:48:06.669 so we had to say that, 2016-08-06 14:48:06.67 but we 2016-08-06 14:48:06.684 so we had to say that, 2016-08-06 14:48:06.685 but we 2016-08-06 14:48:07.67 understood what the artists were 2016-08-06 14:48:07.684 understood what the artists were 2016-08-06 14:48:08.67 saying, so how do we handle 2016-08-06 14:48:08.671 that? 2016-08-06 14:48:08.684 saying, so how do we handle 2016-08-06 14:48:08.686 that? 2016-08-06 14:48:09.67 We went back to the drawing 2016-08-06 14:48:09.684 We went back to the drawing 2016-08-06 14:48:11.705 board and leaned more heavily on 2016-08-06 14:48:11.719 board and leaned more heavily on 2016-08-06 14:48:16.718 the public 2016-08-06 14:48:16.719 funding part of the 2016-08-06 14:48:16.731 the public 2016-08-06 14:48:16.737 funding part of the 2016-08-06 14:48:20.703 program, and to be heading 2016-08-06 14:48:20.705 changed to unprecedented new 2016-08-06 14:48:20.716 program, and to be heading 2016-08-06 14:48:20.718 changed to unprecedented new 2016-08-06 14:48:25.704 university-based fellowship 2016-08-06 14:48:25.706 supporting disability culture. 2016-08-06 14:48:25.717 university-based fellowship 2016-08-06 14:48:25.719 supporting disability culture. 2016-08-06 14:48:26.704 And we thought, we've done it. 2016-08-06 14:48:26.718 And we thought, we've done it. 2016-08-06 14:48:29.72 This is great. 2016-08-06 14:48:29.733 This is great. 2016-08-06 14:48:31.72 It is the perfect way to save 2016-08-06 14:48:31.721 us. 2016-08-06 14:48:31.734 It is the perfect way to save 2016-08-06 14:48:31.735 us. 2016-08-06 14:48:33.719 And the press release went out 2016-08-06 14:48:33.733 And the press release went out 2016-08-06 14:48:34.722 to everybody, and a couple days 2016-08-06 14:48:34.736 to everybody, and a couple days 2016-08-06 14:48:36.765 later our PR team called me and 2016-08-06 14:48:36.779 later our PR team called me and 2016-08-06 14:48:40.785 said, we want you to see an 2016-08-06 14:48:40.787 e-mail we just got from a 2016-08-06 14:48:40.799 said, we want you to see an 2016-08-06 14:48:40.8 e-mail we just got from a 2016-08-06 14:48:41.787 journalist. 2016-08-06 14:48:41.789 It was a very terse one line 2016-08-06 14:48:41.801 journalist. 2016-08-06 14:48:41.802 It was a very terse one line 2016-08-06 14:48:46.788 that said, "great program, but 2016-08-06 14:48:46.79 there is no such thing as 2016-08-06 14:48:46.802 that said, "great program, but 2016-08-06 14:48:46.804 there is no such thing as 2016-08-06 14:48:50.785 disability culture." 2016-08-06 14:48:50.799 disability culture." 2016-08-06 14:48:53.787 I sat on that for 24 hours. 2016-08-06 14:48:53.8 I sat on that for 24 hours. 2016-08-06 14:48:57.788 The entirety of 3Arts is built 2016-08-06 14:48:57.802 The entirety of 3Arts is built 2016-08-06 14:49:01.787 on the idea of listening and 2016-08-06 14:49:01.8 on the idea of listening and 2016-08-06 14:49:03.807 responding, even if we are 2016-08-06 14:49:03.809 imperfect. 2016-08-06 14:49:03.821 responding, even if we are 2016-08-06 14:49:03.822 imperfect. 2016-08-06 14:49:06.789 Then I thought, let me get this 2016-08-06 14:49:06.79 lady's number. 2016-08-06 14:49:06.792 I called her and we had a long 2016-08-06 14:49:06.793 talk. 2016-08-06 14:49:06.803 Then I thought, let me get this 2016-08-06 14:49:06.804 lady's number. 2016-08-06 14:49:06.806 I called her and we had a long 2016-08-06 14:49:06.807 talk. 2016-08-06 14:49:11.789 It turns out she is a journalist 2016-08-06 14:49:11.79 with a disability. 2016-08-06 14:49:11.802 It turns out she is a journalist 2016-08-06 14:49:11.808 with a disability. 2016-08-06 14:49:16.786 She said, all artists should be 2016-08-06 14:49:16.8 She said, all artists should be 2016-08-06 14:49:18.787 considered just artists, should 2016-08-06 14:49:18.801 considered just artists, should 2016-08-06 14:49:20.789 not be again a fight as women, 2016-08-06 14:49:20.791 people of color, people with 2016-08-06 14:49:20.792 disabilities. 2016-08-06 14:49:20.803 not be again a fight as women, 2016-08-06 14:49:20.805 people of color, people with 2016-08-06 14:49:20.806 disabilities. 2016-08-06 14:49:25.789 I explained to her we are trying 2016-08-06 14:49:25.791 to change the world and as part 2016-08-06 14:49:25.803 I explained to her we are trying 2016-08-06 14:49:25.804 to change the world and as part 2016-08-06 14:49:31.787 of our advocacy, 2016-08-06 14:49:31.788 make a 2016-08-06 14:49:31.789 statement. 2016-08-06 14:49:31.801 of our advocacy, 2016-08-06 14:49:31.802 make a 2016-08-06 14:49:31.803 statement. 2016-08-06 14:49:32.788 We never came to a full 2016-08-06 14:49:32.802 We never came to a full 2016-08-06 14:49:34.83 agreement, but it didn't matter. 2016-08-06 14:49:34.845 agreement, but it didn't matter. 2016-08-06 14:49:40.871 It was a very good, very 2016-08-06 14:49:40.872 helpful 2016-08-06 14:49:40.873 conversation. 2016-08-06 14:49:40.885 It was a very good, very 2016-08-06 14:49:40.886 helpful 2016-08-06 14:49:40.887 conversation. 2016-08-06 14:49:44.876 Christine: Which is the perfect 2016-08-06 14:49:44.89 Christine: Which is the perfect 2016-08-06 14:49:46.874 segue and talking about Barak. 2016-08-06 14:49:46.888 segue and talking about Barak. 2016-08-06 14:49:52.872 You received the 2016-08-06 14:49:52.873 fellowship in 2016-08-06 14:49:52.886 You received the 2016-08-06 14:49:52.887 fellowship in 2016-08-06 14:49:56.871 the 2014-15 season, is that 2016-08-06 14:49:56.885 the 2014-15 season, is that 2016-08-06 14:49:57.872 right? 2016-08-06 14:49:57.886 right? 2016-08-06 14:50:00.873 Or the 2015-16 season. 2016-08-06 14:50:00.887 Or the 2015-16 season. 2016-08-06 14:50:01.874 First of all, congratulations. 2016-08-06 14:50:01.888 First of all, congratulations. 2016-08-06 14:50:04.879 I am going to ask you something 2016-08-06 14:50:04.893 I am going to ask you something 2016-08-06 14:50:07.971 provocative -- is there such a 2016-08-06 14:50:07.973 thing as disability culture? 2016-08-06 14:50:07.985 provocative -- is there such a 2016-08-06 14:50:07.987 thing as disability culture? 2016-08-06 14:50:12.997 Barak: First, thank 2016-08-06 14:50:12.998 you. 2016-08-06 14:50:13 I want to introduce myself. 2016-08-06 14:50:13.011 Barak: First, thank 2016-08-06 14:50:13.012 you. 2016-08-06 14:50:13.014 I want to introduce myself. 2016-08-06 14:50:17.026 I am Barak adè Soleil. 2016-08-06 14:50:17.041 I am Barak adè Soleil. 2016-08-06 14:50:22 I sold within a fight as clear, 2016-08-06 14:50:22.013 I sold within a fight as clear, 2016-08-06 14:50:30.038 black -- queer, 2016-08-06 14:50:30.052 black -- queer, 2016-08-06 14:50:32.046 black, 2016-08-06 14:50:32.061 black, 2016-08-06 14:50:34.082 and that 2016-08-06 14:50:34.087 conversation asks questions we 2016-08-06 14:50:34.095 and that 2016-08-06 14:50:34.097 conversation asks questions we 2016-08-06 14:50:37.125 think about identify and how we 2016-08-06 14:50:37.127 self identify. 2016-08-06 14:50:37.139 think about identify and how we 2016-08-06 14:50:37.141 self identify. 2016-08-06 14:50:42.125 It is one thing to be a person 2016-08-06 14:50:42.14 It is one thing to be a person 2016-08-06 14:50:44.125 who self identifies and claim 2016-08-06 14:50:44.139 who self identifies and claim 2016-08-06 14:50:46.135 and own that, and it's another 2016-08-06 14:50:46.15 and own that, and it's another 2016-08-06 14:50:48.126 thing to be projected on, to be 2016-08-06 14:50:48.14 thing to be projected on, to be 2016-08-06 14:50:50.126 categorized, and tokenized. 2016-08-06 14:50:50.14 categorized, and tokenized. 2016-08-06 14:50:55.126 So, the notion and the politics 2016-08-06 14:50:55.139 So, the notion and the politics 2016-08-06 14:51:00.126 and precariousness around this 2016-08-06 14:51:00.14 and precariousness around this 2016-08-06 14:51:02.126 notion of what disability 2016-08-06 14:51:02.128 culture is is not to ask the 2016-08-06 14:51:02.141 notion of what disability 2016-08-06 14:51:02.142 culture is is not to ask the 2016-08-06 14:51:07.126 nondisabled community, those who 2016-08-06 14:51:07.14 nondisabled community, those who 2016-08-06 14:51:08.129 do not know what it is, but 2016-08-06 14:51:08.143 do not know what it is, but 2016-08-06 14:51:10.126 rather ask those who are in it 2016-08-06 14:51:10.139 rather ask those who are in it 2016-08-06 14:51:14.126 what it is, and like culture, it 2016-08-06 14:51:14.14 what it is, and like culture, it 2016-08-06 14:51:15.125 is ever evolving. 2016-08-06 14:51:15.126 It is rigorous. 2016-08-06 14:51:15.139 is ever evolving. 2016-08-06 14:51:15.14 It is rigorous. 2016-08-06 14:51:19.125 It is precarious. 2016-08-06 14:51:19.127 It is about the essence of 2016-08-06 14:51:19.139 It is precarious. 2016-08-06 14:51:19.141 It is about the essence of 2016-08-06 14:51:22.127 diversity, which means all of 2016-08-06 14:51:22.141 diversity, which means all of 2016-08-06 14:51:24.127 these things calm, up against 2016-08-06 14:51:24.141 these things calm, up against 2016-08-06 14:51:28.126 each other, and we strive and 2016-08-06 14:51:28.14 each other, and we strive and 2016-08-06 14:51:29.17 search for the common language. 2016-08-06 14:51:29.183 search for the common language. 2016-08-06 14:51:31.173 It is through the first voice 2016-08-06 14:51:31.174 perspective and I think it is 2016-08-06 14:51:31.186 It is through the first voice 2016-08-06 14:51:31.2 perspective and I think it is 2016-08-06 14:51:37.17 ultimately through those 2016-08-06 14:51:37.171 who 2016-08-06 14:51:37.184 ultimately through those 2016-08-06 14:51:37.185 who 2016-08-06 14:51:38.173 identify and choose to identify 2016-08-06 14:51:38.185 identify and choose to identify 2016-08-06 14:51:40.219 as disabled or having a 2016-08-06 14:51:40.233 as disabled or having a 2016-08-06 14:51:41.219 disability, it is to ask them 2016-08-06 14:51:41.233 disability, it is to ask them 2016-08-06 14:51:43.22 and to ask them, to ask the 2016-08-06 14:51:43.234 and to ask them, to ask the 2016-08-06 14:51:45.225 question, what is culture, and 2016-08-06 14:51:45.227 whether it is about disability 2016-08-06 14:51:45.239 question, what is culture, and 2016-08-06 14:51:45.241 whether it is about disability 2016-08-06 14:51:51.221 culture, queer 2016-08-06 14:51:51.234 culture, queer 2016-08-06 14:51:52.225 culture, we can 2016-08-06 14:51:52.227 keep on going -- it is culture. 2016-08-06 14:51:52.239 culture, we can 2016-08-06 14:51:52.241 keep on going -- it is culture. 2016-08-06 14:51:56.223 It impacts us, it moves us, and 2016-08-06 14:51:56.224 without it, we would not be here 2016-08-06 14:51:56.225 today. 2016-08-06 14:51:56.237 It impacts us, it moves us, and 2016-08-06 14:51:56.239 without it, we would not be here 2016-08-06 14:51:56.24 today. 2016-08-06 14:52:00.251 So I have to recognize the 2016-08-06 14:52:00.264 So I have to recognize the 2016-08-06 14:52:03.252 disability culture exists's, and 2016-08-06 14:52:03.266 disability culture exists's, and 2016-08-06 14:52:04.252 it exists because we are doing 2016-08-06 14:52:04.266 it exists because we are doing 2016-08-06 14:52:05.254 it right now, even when we do 2016-08-06 14:52:05.255 not think we are. 2016-08-06 14:52:05.268 it right now, even when we do 2016-08-06 14:52:05.27 not think we are. 2016-08-06 14:52:10.294 So, I want 2016-08-06 14:52:10.296 to talk about that. 2016-08-06 14:52:10.297 I have been making work and 2016-08-06 14:52:10.308 So, I want 2016-08-06 14:52:10.309 to talk about that. 2016-08-06 14:52:10.311 I have been making work and 2016-08-06 14:52:13.291 interpreting performance work 2016-08-06 14:52:13.305 interpreting performance work 2016-08-06 14:52:15.292 for 25 years professionally. 2016-08-06 14:52:15.306 for 25 years professionally. 2016-08-06 14:52:20.293 I currently focus my work on the 2016-08-06 14:52:20.295 intersection of race and 2016-08-06 14:52:20.307 I currently focus my work on the 2016-08-06 14:52:20.308 intersection of race and 2016-08-06 14:52:21.292 disability. 2016-08-06 14:52:21.306 disability. 2016-08-06 14:52:24.292 I brought up those other 2016-08-06 14:52:24.306 I brought up those other 2016-08-06 14:52:26.295 identifiers, not to say that one 2016-08-06 14:52:26.297 is more important than the 2016-08-06 14:52:26.309 identifiers, not to say that one 2016-08-06 14:52:26.319 is more important than the 2016-08-06 14:52:29.292 other, but rather, this 2016-08-06 14:52:29.306 other, but rather, this 2016-08-06 14:52:32.296 intersection is important for me 2016-08-06 14:52:32.3 to speak to and it speaks to 2016-08-06 14:52:32.307 intersection is important for me 2016-08-06 14:52:32.309 to speak to and it speaks to 2016-08-06 14:52:37.333 nuances, it 2016-08-06 14:52:37.348 nuances, it 2016-08-06 14:52:38.334 speaks to gender, it 2016-08-06 14:52:38.348 speaks to gender, it 2016-08-06 14:52:40.335 speaks to the privileges that 2016-08-06 14:52:40.349 speaks to the privileges that 2016-08-06 14:52:42.336 exist within my own gender, and 2016-08-06 14:52:42.35 exist within my own gender, and 2016-08-06 14:52:45.333 it allows for a kind of analysis 2016-08-06 14:52:45.347 it allows for a kind of analysis 2016-08-06 14:52:48.35 and a possibility of analysis 2016-08-06 14:52:48.351 through a creative lens, and 2016-08-06 14:52:48.364 and a possibility of analysis 2016-08-06 14:52:48.365 through a creative lens, and 2016-08-06 14:52:52.338 that is through the intersection 2016-08-06 14:52:52.352 that is through the intersection 2016-08-06 14:52:53.334 of race and disability. 2016-08-06 14:52:53.348 of race and disability. 2016-08-06 14:52:55.336 What does it mean when these two 2016-08-06 14:52:55.35 What does it mean when these two 2016-08-06 14:52:58.335 aspects and their intertwining 2016-08-06 14:52:58.349 aspects and their intertwining 2016-08-06 14:53:00.337 legacies are brought together in 2016-08-06 14:53:00.351 legacies are brought together in 2016-08-06 14:53:01.34 the world? 2016-08-06 14:53:01.342 How did they inform each other? 2016-08-06 14:53:01.354 the world? 2016-08-06 14:53:01.356 How did they inform each other? 2016-08-06 14:53:04.337 What nuances, what contouring, 2016-08-06 14:53:04.352 What nuances, what contouring, 2016-08-06 14:53:07.383 what dimensions occur because of 2016-08-06 14:53:07.385 that intersection? 2016-08-06 14:53:07.397 what dimensions occur because of 2016-08-06 14:53:07.398 that intersection? 2016-08-06 14:53:10.378 For me, throughout my work 2016-08-06 14:53:10.392 For me, throughout my work 2016-08-06 14:53:13.383 currently, which is really begun 2016-08-06 14:53:13.397 currently, which is really begun 2016-08-06 14:53:19.376 to speak to 2016-08-06 14:53:19.389 to speak to 2016-08-06 14:53:20.379 this, as within the 2016-08-06 14:53:20.393 this, as within the 2016-08-06 14:53:21.378 last deed of years honestly, I 2016-08-06 14:53:21.391 last deed of years honestly, I 2016-08-06 14:53:24.378 have been primarily focusing on 2016-08-06 14:53:24.392 have been primarily focusing on 2016-08-06 14:53:26.38 -- the last two years honestly, 2016-08-06 14:53:26.395 -- the last two years honestly, 2016-08-06 14:53:28.379 I have been primarily focusing 2016-08-06 14:53:28.393 I have been primarily focusing 2016-08-06 14:53:33.421 on race, the racialized 2016-08-06 14:53:33.422 body, 2016-08-06 14:53:33.423 through my own experience. 2016-08-06 14:53:33.435 on race, the racialized 2016-08-06 14:53:33.436 body, 2016-08-06 14:53:33.437 through my own experience. 2016-08-06 14:53:37.421 I began to focus on the culture 2016-08-06 14:53:37.436 I began to focus on the culture 2016-08-06 14:53:40.423 of disability, the aesthetics of 2016-08-06 14:53:40.424 disability. 2016-08-06 14:53:40.437 of disability, the aesthetics of 2016-08-06 14:53:40.438 disability. 2016-08-06 14:53:41.421 I began to go into research, 2016-08-06 14:53:41.436 I began to go into research, 2016-08-06 14:53:42.472 which is what I think we as 2016-08-06 14:53:42.485 which is what I think we as 2016-08-06 14:53:47.471 artists do across the board. 2016-08-06 14:53:47.473 And so, the way in which this 2016-08-06 14:53:47.485 artists do across the board. 2016-08-06 14:53:47.486 And so, the way in which this 2016-08-06 14:53:51.473 fellowship in 3Arts thoughtfully 2016-08-06 14:53:51.487 fellowship in 3Arts thoughtfully 2016-08-06 14:53:57.472 thought about this 2016-08-06 14:53:57.473 fellowship 2016-08-06 14:53:57.486 thought about this 2016-08-06 14:53:57.487 fellowship 2016-08-06 14:54:00.519 was to begin to say, well, I 2016-08-06 14:54:00.534 was to begin to say, well, I 2016-08-06 14:54:01.548 will be honest it -- first, you 2016-08-06 14:54:01.55 must identify as disabled. 2016-08-06 14:54:01.562 will be honest it -- first, you 2016-08-06 14:54:01.564 must identify as disabled. 2016-08-06 14:54:07.588 I think 2016-08-06 14:54:07.589 that reclaiming that 2016-08-06 14:54:07.602 I think 2016-08-06 14:54:07.603 that reclaiming that 2016-08-06 14:54:09.597 space, that is to say it is a 2016-08-06 14:54:09.61 space, that is to say it is a 2016-08-06 14:54:11.589 political rate it is a space of 2016-08-06 14:54:11.591 calling it out. 2016-08-06 14:54:11.604 political rate it is a space of 2016-08-06 14:54:11.605 calling it out. 2016-08-06 14:54:13.597 It is a space of consciousness. 2016-08-06 14:54:13.611 It is a space of consciousness. 2016-08-06 14:54:15.589 From there, are you making 2016-08-06 14:54:15.603 From there, are you making 2016-08-06 14:54:16.586 digital work? 2016-08-06 14:54:16.6 digital work? 2016-08-06 14:54:21.597 -- are you 2016-08-06 14:54:21.598 making good work? 2016-08-06 14:54:21.611 -- are you 2016-08-06 14:54:21.612 making good work? 2016-08-06 14:54:23.59 Yes, you recognize there is a 2016-08-06 14:54:23.604 Yes, you recognize there is a 2016-08-06 14:54:24.591 gap, this is a chasm that needs 2016-08-06 14:54:24.593 to be filled. 2016-08-06 14:54:24.605 gap, this is a chasm that needs 2016-08-06 14:54:24.606 to be filled. 2016-08-06 14:54:26.59 What are you invested in? 2016-08-06 14:54:26.604 What are you invested in? 2016-08-06 14:54:31.599 I was 2016-08-06 14:54:31.6 invested, through looking 2016-08-06 14:54:31.613 I was 2016-08-06 14:54:31.615 invested, through looking 2016-08-06 14:54:32.59 at the intersection of race and 2016-08-06 14:54:32.604 at the intersection of race and 2016-08-06 14:54:35.592 disability, and how to transmit 2016-08-06 14:54:35.602 disability, and how to transmit 2016-08-06 14:54:40.674 information and communicate 2016-08-06 14:54:40.675 that 2016-08-06 14:54:40.677 information to multiple 2016-08-06 14:54:40.688 information and communicate 2016-08-06 14:54:40.689 that 2016-08-06 14:54:40.691 information to multiple 2016-08-06 14:54:43.671 communities, centralizing the 2016-08-06 14:54:43.685 communities, centralizing the 2016-08-06 14:54:48.673 disabled and racialized 2016-08-06 14:54:48.675 community, which were me was 2016-08-06 14:54:48.676 also about not creating any kind 2016-08-06 14:54:48.687 disabled and racialized 2016-08-06 14:54:48.689 community, which were me was 2016-08-06 14:54:48.69 also about not creating any kind 2016-08-06 14:54:52.673 of binary, not creating any kind 2016-08-06 14:54:52.687 of binary, not creating any kind 2016-08-06 14:54:54.673 of relationship to the other or 2016-08-06 14:54:54.687 of relationship to the other or 2016-08-06 14:54:59.682 the hierarchical 2016-08-06 14:54:59.682 . 2016-08-06 14:54:59.684 Rather centralizing those two 2016-08-06 14:54:59.685 communities. 2016-08-06 14:54:59.689 the hierarchical. 2016-08-06 14:54:59.691 Rather centralizing those two 2016-08-06 14:54:59.692 communities. 2016-08-06 14:55:04.675 One of the things that became 2016-08-06 14:55:04.689 One of the things that became 2016-08-06 14:55:06.721 important to me is I am 2016-08-06 14:55:06.735 important to me is I am 2016-08-06 14:55:07.725 currently making dance work. 2016-08-06 14:55:07.739 currently making dance work. 2016-08-06 14:55:08.722 Dance work as a visual medium in 2016-08-06 14:55:08.739 Dance work as a visual medium in 2016-08-06 14:55:09.771 many ways. 2016-08-06 14:55:09.785 many ways. 2016-08-06 14:55:13.779 I was very fascinated with how I 2016-08-06 14:55:13.792 I was very fascinated with how I 2016-08-06 14:55:15.77 could communicate dance to those 2016-08-06 14:55:15.784 could communicate dance to those 2016-08-06 14:55:17.771 who do not necessarily think 2016-08-06 14:55:17.785 who do not necessarily think 2016-08-06 14:55:22.771 about site or si --ght or 2016-08-06 14:55:22.785 about site or si --ght or 2016-08-06 14:55:28.8 non-sighted fo 2016-08-06 14:55:28.814 non-sighted fo 2016-08-06 14:55:29.801 lk, those who are 2016-08-06 14:55:29.803 blind, those living with visual 2016-08-06 14:55:29.815 lk, those who are 2016-08-06 14:55:29.817 blind, those living with visual 2016-08-06 14:55:33.797 impairments. 2016-08-06 14:55:33.811 impairments. 2016-08-06 14:55:37.798 Then I began, through the 2016-08-06 14:55:37.812 Then I began, through the 2016-08-06 14:55:41.842 network, began to identify 2016-08-06 14:55:41.844 someone interested in having a 2016-08-06 14:55:41.856 network, began to identify 2016-08-06 14:55:41.858 someone interested in having a 2016-08-06 14:55:44.848 conversation around what does 2016-08-06 14:55:44.85 audio description look like for 2016-08-06 14:55:44.859 conversation around what does 2016-08-06 14:55:44.861 audio description look like for 2016-08-06 14:55:47.841 dance? 2016-08-06 14:55:47.855 dance? 2016-08-06 14:55:50.842 And it was through 3Arts and the 2016-08-06 14:55:50.857 And it was through 3Arts and the 2016-08-06 14:55:52.844 UI fellowship, going deeper into 2016-08-06 14:55:52.859 UI fellowship, going deeper into 2016-08-06 14:55:57.845 that -- the UIC fellowship, 2016-08-06 14:55:57.847 going deeper into the 2016-08-06 14:55:57.848 conversation. 2016-08-06 14:55:57.859 that -- the UIC fellowship, 2016-08-06 14:55:57.861 going deeper into the 2016-08-06 14:55:57.862 conversation. 2016-08-06 14:56:00.845 My job as a choreographer and a 2016-08-06 14:56:00.859 My job as a choreographer and a 2016-08-06 14:56:06.842 dancer, I 2016-08-06 14:56:06.843 also compose work. 2016-08-06 14:56:06.856 dancer, I 2016-08-06 14:56:06.857 also compose work. 2016-08-06 14:56:08.885 I know in my heart when audio 2016-08-06 14:56:08.9 I know in my heart when audio 2016-08-06 14:56:09.884 describe her's are describing 2016-08-06 14:56:09.898 describe her's are describing 2016-08-06 14:56:13.881 work, they are choreographers. 2016-08-06 14:56:13.895 work, they are choreographers. 2016-08-06 14:56:15.884 They are giving information and 2016-08-06 14:56:15.886 they are articulating the way in 2016-08-06 14:56:15.888 which the world will move in 2016-08-06 14:56:15.899 They are giving information and 2016-08-06 14:56:15.9 they are articulating the way in 2016-08-06 14:56:15.902 which the world will move in 2016-08-06 14:56:18.882 dance. 2016-08-06 14:56:18.896 dance. 2016-08-06 14:56:21.883 They are my collaborator, and 2016-08-06 14:56:21.885 they are the ultimate 2016-08-06 14:56:21.897 They are my collaborator, and 2016-08-06 14:56:21.899 they are the ultimate 2016-08-06 14:56:24.888 choreographer for those who use 2016-08-06 14:56:24.902 choreographer for those who use 2016-08-06 14:56:27.882 and want and desire to use that 2016-08-06 14:56:27.883 support. 2016-08-06 14:56:27.896 and want and desire to use that 2016-08-06 14:56:27.897 support. 2016-08-06 14:56:35.886 So, it became 2016-08-06 14:56:35.887 a two way 2016-08-06 14:56:35.9 So, it became 2016-08-06 14:56:35.901 a two way 2016-08-06 14:56:36.887 conversation around what does 2016-08-06 14:56:36.889 that mean and what does that 2016-08-06 14:56:36.89 look like? 2016-08-06 14:56:36.901 conversation around what does 2016-08-06 14:56:36.903 that mean and what does that 2016-08-06 14:56:36.904 look like? 2016-08-06 14:56:41.924 Can that inform my 2016-08-06 14:56:41.938 Can that inform my 2016-08-06 14:56:43.925 choreographic 2016-08-06 14:56:43.926 lens? 2016-08-06 14:56:43.939 choreographic 2016-08-06 14:56:43.94 lens? 2016-08-06 14:56:44.926 That became a search. 2016-08-06 14:56:44.94 That became a search. 2016-08-06 14:56:45.926 That was one. 2016-08-06 14:56:45.928 The other actually became sign 2016-08-06 14:56:45.94 That was one. 2016-08-06 14:56:45.942 The other actually became sign 2016-08-06 14:56:49.929 language, American sign 2016-08-06 14:56:49.931 language. 2016-08-06 14:56:49.943 language, American sign 2016-08-06 14:56:49.945 language. 2016-08-06 14:56:52.925 Because there are other, 2016-08-06 14:56:52.939 Because there are other, 2016-08-06 14:56:53.925 depending on where you go in the 2016-08-06 14:56:53.927 world. 2016-08-06 14:56:53.939 depending on where you go in the 2016-08-06 14:56:53.941 world. 2016-08-06 14:56:59.927 Because I was so, I 2016-08-06 14:56:59.928 have been so 2016-08-06 14:56:59.942 Because I was so, I 2016-08-06 14:56:59.943 have been so 2016-08-06 14:57:00.926 drawn to my life of making work 2016-08-06 14:57:00.94 drawn to my life of making work 2016-08-06 14:57:03.925 and interpreting work to gesture 2016-08-06 14:57:03.927 and gestural language, and I 2016-08-06 14:57:03.94 and interpreting work to gesture 2016-08-06 14:57:03.942 and gestural language, and I 2016-08-06 14:57:05.93 find there is a depth of beauty 2016-08-06 14:57:05.944 find there is a depth of beauty 2016-08-06 14:57:08.926 to sign, and I did know what to 2016-08-06 14:57:08.94 to sign, and I did know what to 2016-08-06 14:57:14.972 co-opt it and appropriate 2016-08-06 14:57:14.973 it 2016-08-06 14:57:14.974 because it is a specific 2016-08-06 14:57:14.987 co-opt it and appropriate 2016-08-06 14:57:14.988 it 2016-08-06 14:57:14.989 because it is a specific 2016-08-06 14:57:17.972 language that communicates and 2016-08-06 14:57:17.986 language that communicates and 2016-08-06 14:57:19.973 helps to communicate what I'm 2016-08-06 14:57:19.974 doing. 2016-08-06 14:57:19.975 So I began to engage with 2016-08-06 14:57:19.987 helps to communicate what I'm 2016-08-06 14:57:19.988 doing. 2016-08-06 14:57:19.99 So I began to engage with 2016-08-06 14:57:22.973 someone who comes from a family 2016-08-06 14:57:22.975 where she has had to utilize 2016-08-06 14:57:22.987 someone who comes from a family 2016-08-06 14:57:22.989 where she has had to utilize 2016-08-06 14:57:26.975 sign language and began to drop 2016-08-06 14:57:26.989 sign language and began to drop 2016-08-06 14:57:30.025 relationships between the 2016-08-06 14:57:30.028 choreographic notion of Chester 2016-08-06 14:57:30.039 relationships between the 2016-08-06 14:57:30.04 choreographic notion of Chester 2016-08-06 14:57:34.03 and gestural -- notion of 2016-08-06 14:57:34.044 and gestural -- notion of 2016-08-06 14:57:38.022 gesture and gestural language. 2016-08-06 14:57:38.036 gesture and gestural language. 2016-08-06 14:57:41.027 I won it to recognize the 2016-08-06 14:57:41.03 possibility, particularly how 2016-08-06 14:57:41.041 I won it to recognize the 2016-08-06 14:57:41.043 possibility, particularly how 2016-08-06 14:57:45.028 that can inform my work. 2016-08-06 14:57:45.043 that can inform my work. 2016-08-06 14:57:46.04 Those are two particular 2016-08-06 14:57:46.054 Those are two particular 2016-08-06 14:57:51.051 assistive devices -- technology 2016-08-06 14:57:51.065 assistive devices -- technology 2016-08-06 14:57:53.051 accommodations -- that I began 2016-08-06 14:57:53.065 accommodations -- that I began 2016-08-06 14:57:54.052 to draw into my aesthetic and 2016-08-06 14:57:54.053 recognize as part of disability 2016-08-06 14:57:54.067 to draw into my aesthetic and 2016-08-06 14:57:54.069 recognize as part of disability 2016-08-06 14:58:00.051 culture, and ways to continue 2016-08-06 14:58:00.052 to 2016-08-06 14:58:00.065 culture, and ways to continue 2016-08-06 14:58:00.066 to 2016-08-06 14:58:05.061 have, find 2016-08-06 14:58:05.062 relationships between 2016-08-06 14:58:05.075 have, find 2016-08-06 14:58:05.076 relationships between 2016-08-06 14:58:06.054 my own thoughts around what 2016-08-06 14:58:06.056 disability was and my own kind 2016-08-06 14:58:06.068 my own thoughts around what 2016-08-06 14:58:06.07 disability was and my own kind 2016-08-06 14:58:09.054 of a-day and what is happening 2016-08-06 14:58:09.068 of a-day and what is happening 2016-08-06 14:58:10.055 in the disability community. 2016-08-06 14:58:10.068 in the disability community. 2016-08-06 14:58:16.052 So, like 2016-08-06 14:58:16.066 So, like 2016-08-06 14:58:17.05 anything, like 2016-08-06 14:58:17.065 anything, like 2016-08-06 14:58:18.054 everyone, it is quite diverse. 2016-08-06 14:58:18.068 everyone, it is quite diverse. 2016-08-06 14:58:20.053 So, I had to find ways to let 2016-08-06 14:58:20.068 So, I had to find ways to let 2016-08-06 14:58:22.051 this information and the way I 2016-08-06 14:58:22.066 this information and the way I 2016-08-06 14:58:24.051 am sharing become more expansive 2016-08-06 14:58:24.053 through this work. 2016-08-06 14:58:24.066 am sharing become more expansive 2016-08-06 14:58:24.067 through this work. 2016-08-06 14:58:31.051 Christine: 2016-08-06 14:58:31.065 Christine: 2016-08-06 14:58:32.052 And it is in direct 2016-08-06 14:58:32.067 And it is in direct 2016-08-06 14:58:34.052 relationship to this fellowship, 2016-08-06 14:58:34.066 relationship to this fellowship, 2016-08-06 14:58:35.055 allowed you, supported you to go 2016-08-06 14:58:35.056 down those avenues? 2016-08-06 14:58:35.069 allowed you, supported you to go 2016-08-06 14:58:35.071 down those avenues? 2016-08-06 14:58:38.052 Barak: Exactly. 2016-08-06 14:58:38.066 Barak: Exactly. 2016-08-06 14:58:41.097 Christine: They made all of 2016-08-06 14:58:41.098 these things available to you? 2016-08-06 14:58:41.123 Christine: They made all of 2016-08-06 14:58:41.124 these things available to you? 2016-08-06 14:58:45.098 Barak: Well, and I would say 2016-08-06 14:58:45.113 Barak: Well, and I would say 2016-08-06 14:58:50.093 this is important -- they were 2016-08-06 14:58:50.107 this is important -- they were 2016-08-06 14:58:52.095 -- closer to the mic? 2016-08-06 14:58:52.109 -- closer to the mic? 2016-08-06 14:58:54.095 Christine: Thank you. 2016-08-06 14:58:54.109 Christine: Thank you. 2016-08-06 14:58:58.095 Barak: Closer to the mic. 2016-08-06 14:58:58.109 Barak: Closer to the mic. 2016-08-06 14:59:06.095 Between 2016-08-06 14:59:06.109 Between 2016-08-06 14:59:07.096 them, they know a 2016-08-06 14:59:07.11 them, they know a 2016-08-06 14:59:08.096 network of folks -- so, it's a 2016-08-06 14:59:08.097 network. 2016-08-06 14:59:08.11 network of folks -- so, it's a 2016-08-06 14:59:08.112 network. 2016-08-06 14:59:12.095 It is not so much about what 2016-08-06 14:59:12.097 they did for me. 2016-08-06 14:59:12.109 It is not so much about what 2016-08-06 14:59:12.111 they did for me. 2016-08-06 14:59:13.096 They would never approach it 2016-08-06 14:59:13.11 They would never approach it 2016-08-06 14:59:15.096 from a missionary model or what 2016-08-06 14:59:15.11 from a missionary model or what 2016-08-06 14:59:19.097 they laid the ground -- it is 2016-08-06 14:59:19.098 customized. 2016-08-06 14:59:19.111 they laid the ground -- it is 2016-08-06 14:59:19.112 customized. 2016-08-06 14:59:22.096 I began to ask questions. 2016-08-06 14:59:22.11 I began to ask questions. 2016-08-06 14:59:24.098 They began to say, this is a 2016-08-06 14:59:24.099 possibility. 2016-08-06 14:59:24.112 They began to say, this is a 2016-08-06 14:59:24.113 possibility. 2016-08-06 14:59:28.097 This is part of the network. 2016-08-06 14:59:28.111 This is part of the network. 2016-08-06 14:59:29.099 And could that network keep in 2016-08-06 14:59:29.113 And could that network keep in 2016-08-06 14:59:32.096 or provide an opportunity for 2016-08-06 14:59:32.11 or provide an opportunity for 2016-08-06 14:59:33.096 relationships question mark that 2016-08-06 14:59:33.098 is the thing. 2016-08-06 14:59:33.111 relationships question mark that 2016-08-06 14:59:33.112 is the thing. 2016-08-06 14:59:37.098 I got to know Esther before I 2016-08-06 14:59:37.099 received the Fellowship. 2016-08-06 14:59:37.112 I got to know Esther before I 2016-08-06 14:59:37.114 received the Fellowship. 2016-08-06 14:59:42.136 It 2016-08-06 14:59:42.151 It 2016-08-06 14:59:43.14 is through the articulation 2016-08-06 14:59:43.142 of relationships, the nuance in 2016-08-06 14:59:43.155 is through the articulation 2016-08-06 14:59:43.156 of relationships, the nuance in 2016-08-06 14:59:44.137 the relationships that this felt 2016-08-06 14:59:44.138 good to me. 2016-08-06 14:59:44.157 the relationships that this felt 2016-08-06 14:59:44.158 good to me. 2016-08-06 14:59:49.137 It was not someone not knowing 2016-08-06 14:59:49.152 It was not someone not knowing 2016-08-06 14:59:50.139 my work. 2016-08-06 14:59:50.153 my work. 2016-08-06 14:59:51.14 It was someone knowing my work 2016-08-06 14:59:51.154 It was someone knowing my work 2016-08-06 14:59:54.137 and saying, I would love to find 2016-08-06 14:59:54.151 and saying, I would love to find 2016-08-06 14:59:56.143 how we can support you and your 2016-08-06 14:59:56.144 continued discovery and 2016-08-06 14:59:56.146 abolition of your work. 2016-08-06 14:59:56.157 how we can support you and your 2016-08-06 14:59:56.159 continued discovery and 2016-08-06 14:59:56.16 abolition of your work. 2016-08-06 15:00:05.14 Christine: You mentioned the 2016-08-06 15:00:05.154 Christine: You mentioned the 2016-08-06 15:00:06.14 other night when you're at the 2016-08-06 15:00:06.142 talkback that you were -- I 2016-08-06 15:00:06.155 other night when you're at the 2016-08-06 15:00:06.157 talkback that you were -- I 2016-08-06 15:00:10.183 guess does she refer to herself 2016-08-06 15:00:10.198 guess does she refer to herself 2016-08-06 15:00:12.179 as a designer? 2016-08-06 15:00:12.193 as a designer? 2016-08-06 15:00:14.181 Talking about Sandy, if you want 2016-08-06 15:00:14.195 Talking about Sandy, if you want 2016-08-06 15:00:18.181 to talk for a second about your 2016-08-06 15:00:18.183 collaboration with your costume 2016-08-06 15:00:18.195 to talk for a second about your 2016-08-06 15:00:18.197 collaboration with your costume 2016-08-06 15:00:20.188 design with Sandy. 2016-08-06 15:00:20.202 design with Sandy. 2016-08-06 15:00:25.182 Barak: Yes, because part of that 2016-08-06 15:00:25.184 was I wanted knowledge the work 2016-08-06 15:00:25.197 Barak: Yes, because part of that 2016-08-06 15:00:25.199 was I wanted knowledge the work 2016-08-06 15:00:27.185 I was making and the work I 2016-08-06 15:00:27.199 I was making and the work I 2016-08-06 15:00:34.182 desired to make 2016-08-06 15:00:34.183 was highly 2016-08-06 15:00:34.196 desired to make 2016-08-06 15:00:34.197 was highly 2016-08-06 15:00:35.182 collaborative, and it always is. 2016-08-06 15:00:35.184 I really wanted to make that 2016-08-06 15:00:35.196 collaborative, and it always is. 2016-08-06 15:00:35.198 I really wanted to make that 2016-08-06 15:00:37.181 pronounced. 2016-08-06 15:00:37.195 pronounced. 2016-08-06 15:00:41.182 And for myself, I had been 2016-08-06 15:00:41.196 And for myself, I had been 2016-08-06 15:00:43.274 thinking particularly of about 2016-08-06 15:00:43.288 thinking particularly of about 2016-08-06 15:00:44.271 beginning to produce this work 2016-08-06 15:00:44.285 beginning to produce this work 2016-08-06 15:00:48.273 -- how did I engage the 2016-08-06 15:00:48.288 -- how did I engage the 2016-08-06 15:00:50.272 aesthetics of disability, the 2016-08-06 15:00:50.277 culture of disability in every 2016-08-06 15:00:50.287 aesthetics of disability, the 2016-08-06 15:00:50.289 culture of disability in every 2016-08-06 15:00:53.276 aspect of the work and 2016-08-06 15:00:53.278 production and process and 2016-08-06 15:00:53.279 administration? 2016-08-06 15:00:53.29 aspect of the work and 2016-08-06 15:00:53.292 production and process and 2016-08-06 15:00:53.293 administration? 2016-08-06 15:01:00.321 So, for me, 2016-08-06 15:01:00.322 it began to identify 2016-08-06 15:01:00.335 So, for me, 2016-08-06 15:01:00.336 it began to identify 2016-08-06 15:01:01.326 and connect with those who also 2016-08-06 15:01:01.328 identify as disabled. 2016-08-06 15:01:01.34 and connect with those who also 2016-08-06 15:01:01.341 identify as disabled. 2016-08-06 15:01:11.326 And so 2016-08-06 15:01:11.341 And so 2016-08-06 15:01:18.347 Sandy 2016-08-06 15:01:18.348 -- she is self 2016-08-06 15:01:18.362 Sandy 2016-08-06 15:01:18.363 -- she is self 2016-08-06 15:01:21.351 identifies as disabled -- and 2016-08-06 15:01:21.353 she talked about the way her 2016-08-06 15:01:21.365 identifies as disabled -- and 2016-08-06 15:01:21.366 she talked about the way her 2016-08-06 15:01:24.349 hands gives information. 2016-08-06 15:01:24.364 hands gives information. 2016-08-06 15:01:30.349 She hand stitched the work 2016-08-06 15:01:30.35 . 2016-08-06 15:01:30.363 She hand stitched the work 2016-08-06 15:01:30.364 . 2016-08-06 15:01:31.351 She hand stitched three-piece, 2016-08-06 15:01:31.365 She hand stitched three-piece, 2016-08-06 15:01:38.35 "turtle," I showed and 2016-08-06 15:01:38.351 excerpts 2016-08-06 15:01:38.352 from on Thursday. 2016-08-06 15:01:38.364 "turtle," I showed and 2016-08-06 15:01:38.365 excerpts 2016-08-06 15:01:38.366 from on Thursday. 2016-08-06 15:01:39.354 She hand stitched the shell. 2016-08-06 15:01:39.368 She hand stitched the shell. 2016-08-06 15:01:45.349 We dismantled some of the 2016-08-06 15:01:45.364 We dismantled some of the 2016-08-06 15:01:48.35 jean 2016-08-06 15:01:48.352 material, and she did all that 2016-08-06 15:01:48.353 work. 2016-08-06 15:01:48.365 jean 2016-08-06 15:01:48.367 material, and she did all that 2016-08-06 15:01:48.368 work. 2016-08-06 15:01:53.351 I felt like when I was in turtle 2016-08-06 15:01:53.365 I felt like when I was in turtle 2016-08-06 15:01:55.35 -- I felt like I was carrying 2016-08-06 15:01:55.364 -- I felt like I was carrying 2016-08-06 15:01:56.351 her energy and her essence and 2016-08-06 15:01:56.366 her energy and her essence and 2016-08-06 15:01:59.353 the beauty of thinking about, 2016-08-06 15:01:59.367 the beauty of thinking about, 2016-08-06 15:02:00.35 when hand work is done what that 2016-08-06 15:02:00.364 when hand work is done what that 2016-08-06 15:02:01.351 means and what that means for 2016-08-06 15:02:01.366 means and what that means for 2016-08-06 15:02:04.357 someone to put that energy into 2016-08-06 15:02:04.358 the work. 2016-08-06 15:02:04.365 I felt like she was very much 2016-08-06 15:02:04.372 someone to put that energy into 2016-08-06 15:02:04.373 the work. 2016-08-06 15:02:04.375 I felt like she was very much 2016-08-06 15:02:10.353 part of the world 2016-08-06 15:02:10.354 helping me 2016-08-06 15:02:10.368 part of the world 2016-08-06 15:02:10.369 helping me 2016-08-06 15:02:11.357 carry the work. 2016-08-06 15:02:11.371 carry the work. 2016-08-06 15:02:12.359 That is one of the beauties I 2016-08-06 15:02:12.374 That is one of the beauties I 2016-08-06 15:02:13.35 began to recognize and began to 2016-08-06 15:02:13.364 began to recognize and began to 2016-08-06 15:02:15.351 continue to think, how can I 2016-08-06 15:02:15.365 continue to think, how can I 2016-08-06 15:02:24.349 allow 2016-08-06 15:02:24.351 bringing the essence of 2016-08-06 15:02:24.364 allow 2016-08-06 15:02:24.366 bringing the essence of 2016-08-06 15:02:27.352 themselves? 2016-08-06 15:02:27.366 themselves? 2016-08-06 15:02:29.351 Talking with the line designer 2016-08-06 15:02:29.365 Talking with the line designer 2016-08-06 15:02:30.355 to reveal their disability -- 2016-08-06 15:02:30.357 revealed it after I began to 2016-08-06 15:02:30.37 to reveal their disability -- 2016-08-06 15:02:30.372 revealed it after I began to 2016-08-06 15:02:33.35 have conversations. 2016-08-06 15:02:33.365 have conversations. 2016-08-06 15:02:35.358 How do you bring yourself? 2016-08-06 15:02:35.373 How do you bring yourself? 2016-08-06 15:02:40.393 I have to 2016-08-06 15:02:40.408 I have to 2016-08-06 15:02:45.435 say, we all make 2016-08-06 15:02:45.436 work 2016-08-06 15:02:45.449 say, we all make 2016-08-06 15:02:45.45 work 2016-08-06 15:02:46.433 from our lived experiences. 2016-08-06 15:02:46.448 from our lived experiences. 2016-08-06 15:02:47.437 It is not all of a sudden, oh, 2016-08-06 15:02:47.451 It is not all of a sudden, oh, 2016-08-06 15:02:50.435 the disabled, now they are 2016-08-06 15:02:50.436 talking about -- you may 2016-08-06 15:02:50.449 the disabled, now they are 2016-08-06 15:02:50.451 talking about -- you may 2016-08-06 15:02:52.434 pronounce it. 2016-08-06 15:02:52.448 pronounce it. 2016-08-06 15:02:55.435 You may make it literal. 2016-08-06 15:02:55.45 You may make it literal. 2016-08-06 15:02:56.437 But we all create from our lived 2016-08-06 15:02:56.451 But we all create from our lived 2016-08-06 15:02:57.435 experiences. 2016-08-06 15:02:57.45 experiences. 2016-08-06 15:03:01.435 Whether or not we appreciate and 2016-08-06 15:03:01.45 Whether or not we appreciate and 2016-08-06 15:03:04.45 affirm how certain contributions 2016-08-06 15:03:04.465 affirm how certain contributions 2016-08-06 15:03:06.445 have not been acknowledged, have 2016-08-06 15:03:06.463 have not been acknowledged, have 2016-08-06 15:03:13.434 been invisiblized 2016-08-06 15:03:13.449 been invisiblized 2016-08-06 15:03:14.435 , have been a 2016-08-06 15:03:14.449 , have been a 2016-08-06 15:03:15.454 raised, this is an effort to 2016-08-06 15:03:15.468 raised, this is an effort to 2016-08-06 15:03:18.434 reaffirm, reship, and 2016-08-06 15:03:18.449 reaffirm, reship, and 2016-08-06 15:03:20.434 recontextualize the way this 2016-08-06 15:03:20.449 recontextualize the way this 2016-08-06 15:03:22.435 work is supported. 2016-08-06 15:03:22.45 work is supported. 2016-08-06 15:03:25.437 This is another linens we are 2016-08-06 15:03:25.452 This is another linens we are 2016-08-06 15:03:29.436 offering -- this is another lens 2016-08-06 15:03:29.437 we are offering. 2016-08-06 15:03:29.45 offering -- this is another lens 2016-08-06 15:03:29.452 we are offering. 2016-08-06 15:03:30.442 We are working for it to be 2016-08-06 15:03:30.443 validated and upheld as any 2016-08-06 15:03:30.457 We are working for it to be 2016-08-06 15:03:30.459 validated and upheld as any 2016-08-06 15:03:32.435 other art form. 2016-08-06 15:03:32.449 other art form. 2016-08-06 15:03:35.438 Christine: I like that word, 2016-08-06 15:03:35.452 Christine: I like that word, 2016-08-06 15:03:38.435 invisibilized. 2016-08-06 15:03:38.45 invisibilized. 2016-08-06 15:03:40.435 That's great. 2016-08-06 15:03:40.45 That's great. 2016-08-06 15:03:46.476 Christine: I had 2016-08-06 15:03:46.491 Christine: I had 2016-08-06 15:03:47.477 questions. 2016-08-06 15:03:47.492 questions. 2016-08-06 15:03:48.477 You answered most of them. 2016-08-06 15:03:48.491 You answered most of them. 2016-08-06 15:03:49.479 Where is Tiffany? 2016-08-06 15:03:49.493 Where is Tiffany? 2016-08-06 15:03:50.478 How are we on time, Tiffany? 2016-08-06 15:03:50.493 How are we on time, Tiffany? 2016-08-06 15:03:56.478 >> in good 2016-08-06 15:03:56.479 shape. 2016-08-06 15:03:56.493 >> in good 2016-08-06 15:03:56.494 shape. 2016-08-06 15:04:01.479 I know that Barak was interested 2016-08-06 15:04:01.48 in the room. 2016-08-06 15:04:01.493 I know that Barak was interested 2016-08-06 15:04:01.494 in the room. 2016-08-06 15:04:05.48 Christine: That's why I am 2016-08-06 15:04:05.481 asking. 2016-08-06 15:04:05.495 Christine: That's why I am 2016-08-06 15:04:05.496 asking. 2016-08-06 15:04:08.48 I have one more question for we 2016-08-06 15:04:08.482 open it up to the room for 2016-08-06 15:04:08.495 I have one more question for we 2016-08-06 15:04:08.496 open it up to the room for 2016-08-06 15:04:16.527 questions -- 2016-08-06 15:04:16.527 what other 2016-08-06 15:04:16.529 companies have you had 2016-08-06 15:04:16.53 experience working with other 2016-08-06 15:04:16.542 questions -- 2016-08-06 15:04:16.543 what other 2016-08-06 15:04:16.544 companies have you had 2016-08-06 15:04:16.546 experience working with other 2016-08-06 15:04:17.539 than 3Arts? 2016-08-06 15:04:17.554 than 3Arts? 2016-08-06 15:04:20.524 Barak: other companies? 2016-08-06 15:04:20.539 Barak: other companies? 2016-08-06 15:04:24.526 Christine: other companies that 2016-08-06 15:04:24.54 Christine: other companies that 2016-08-06 15:04:26.532 might want to follow the 3Arts 2016-08-06 15:04:26.533 model? 2016-08-06 15:04:26.546 might want to follow the 3Arts 2016-08-06 15:04:26.547 model? 2016-08-06 15:04:29.573 Barak: OK. 2016-08-06 15:04:29.588 Barak: OK. 2016-08-06 15:04:33.587 Christine: From your own 2016-08-06 15:04:33.589 personal experience moving 2016-08-06 15:04:33.59 through, navigating through 2016-08-06 15:04:33.591 that? 2016-08-06 15:04:33.602 Christine: From your own 2016-08-06 15:04:33.603 personal experience moving 2016-08-06 15:04:33.605 through, navigating through 2016-08-06 15:04:33.606 that? 2016-08-06 15:04:39.575 Barak: All 2016-08-06 15:04:39.576 right. 2016-08-06 15:04:39.577 So, first, I came up with the 2016-08-06 15:04:39.589 Barak: All 2016-08-06 15:04:39.59 right. 2016-08-06 15:04:39.592 So, first, I came up with the 2016-08-06 15:04:45.588 notion of this formula, 2016-08-06 15:04:45.603 notion of this formula, 2016-08-06 15:04:47.603 because 2016-08-06 15:04:47.618 because 2016-08-06 15:04:48.606 there is this formula, this 2016-08-06 15:04:48.621 there is this formula, this 2016-08-06 15:04:49.606 model, and I had a life 2016-08-06 15:04:49.62 model, and I had a life 2016-08-06 15:04:53.605 challenge with math. 2016-08-06 15:04:53.62 challenge with math. 2016-08-06 15:04:54.606 So I thought, I am going to 2016-08-06 15:04:54.62 So I thought, I am going to 2016-08-06 15:04:56.606 create a mathematical equation, 2016-08-06 15:04:56.621 create a mathematical equation, 2016-08-06 15:04:59.607 actually, to challenge myself. 2016-08-06 15:04:59.609 I came up with a formula that 2016-08-06 15:04:59.621 actually, to challenge myself. 2016-08-06 15:04:59.623 I came up with a formula that 2016-08-06 15:05:04.605 was one by one like 1 x 1 x 1 x 2016-08-06 15:05:04.619 was one by one like 1 x 1 x 1 x 2016-08-06 15:05:10.646 1 2016-08-06 15:05:10.648 to infinity. 2016-08-06 15:05:10.661 1 2016-08-06 15:05:10.662 to infinity. 2016-08-06 15:05:14.689 Every time you choose one 2016-08-06 15:05:14.703 Every time you choose one 2016-08-06 15:05:15.699 individual exponentially, it 2016-08-06 15:05:15.714 individual exponentially, it 2016-08-06 15:05:19.69 will grow, but each time the two 2016-08-06 15:05:19.692 interacted -- I know this is 2016-08-06 15:05:19.693 challenged, but this is the idea 2016-08-06 15:05:19.704 will grow, but each time the two 2016-08-06 15:05:19.706 interacted -- I know this is 2016-08-06 15:05:19.708 challenged, but this is the idea 2016-08-06 15:05:25.689 -- what I believe is 2016-08-06 15:05:25.69 they chose 2016-08-06 15:05:25.704 -- what I believe is 2016-08-06 15:05:25.705 they chose 2016-08-06 15:05:26.688 every individual every time and 2016-08-06 15:05:26.703 every individual every time and 2016-08-06 15:05:27.69 it grows collectively. 2016-08-06 15:05:27.704 it grows collectively. 2016-08-06 15:05:30.688 So, each time, each artist -- 2016-08-06 15:05:30.703 So, each time, each artist -- 2016-08-06 15:05:33.69 and I say this for everyone -- 2016-08-06 15:05:33.704 and I say this for everyone -- 2016-08-06 15:05:35.691 it each time, each artist is 2016-08-06 15:05:35.692 one. 2016-08-06 15:05:35.706 it each time, each artist is 2016-08-06 15:05:35.707 one. 2016-08-06 15:05:37.693 You choose, you engage with that 2016-08-06 15:05:37.695 individual, cultivate the 2016-08-06 15:05:37.708 You choose, you engage with that 2016-08-06 15:05:37.709 individual, cultivate the 2016-08-06 15:05:40.691 relationship, you go to the next 2016-08-06 15:05:40.705 relationship, you go to the next 2016-08-06 15:05:41.732 artist. 2016-08-06 15:05:41.746 artist. 2016-08-06 15:05:44.73 You have built that energy, but 2016-08-06 15:05:44.745 You have built that energy, but 2016-08-06 15:05:45.733 the individual artist may have 2016-08-06 15:05:45.734 something distinct. 2016-08-06 15:05:45.748 the individual artist may have 2016-08-06 15:05:45.749 something distinct. 2016-08-06 15:05:53.732 So choose, 1 x 1 x 2016-08-06 15:05:53.733 1 and 2016-08-06 15:05:53.735 continue into infinity. 2016-08-06 15:05:53.736 While we think of it as 2016-08-06 15:05:53.747 So choose, 1 x 1 x 2016-08-06 15:05:53.748 1 and 2016-08-06 15:05:53.749 continue into infinity. 2016-08-06 15:05:53.751 While we think of it as 2016-08-06 15:05:56.739 individualized things, 2016-08-06 15:05:56.754 individualized things, 2016-08-06 15:06:01.748 collectively it 2016-08-06 15:06:01.749 becomes 2016-08-06 15:06:01.763 collectively it 2016-08-06 15:06:01.764 becomes 2016-08-06 15:06:02.733 exponentially an amazing network 2016-08-06 15:06:02.735 of opportunity and never will 2016-08-06 15:06:02.748 exponentially an amazing network 2016-08-06 15:06:02.749 of opportunity and never will 2016-08-06 15:06:03.733 grow from there. 2016-08-06 15:06:03.734 That is my easy and there. 2016-08-06 15:06:03.747 grow from there. 2016-08-06 15:06:03.749 That is my easy and there. 2016-08-06 15:06:07.738 -- that is my easy answer there. 2016-08-06 15:06:07.753 -- that is my easy answer there. 2016-08-06 15:06:12.734 Christine: That is a fantastic 2016-08-06 15:06:12.735 answer. 2016-08-06 15:06:12.748 Christine: That is a fantastic 2016-08-06 15:06:12.75 answer. 2016-08-06 15:06:14.775 That is a perfect segue into 2016-08-06 15:06:14.777 what I wanted to finish up with 2016-08-06 15:06:14.79 That is a perfect segue into 2016-08-06 15:06:14.792 what I wanted to finish up with 2016-08-06 15:06:16.775 you, is saying, one of the 2016-08-06 15:06:16.789 you, is saying, one of the 2016-08-06 15:06:19.874 things Esther and I talked about 2016-08-06 15:06:19.893 things Esther and I talked about 2016-08-06 15:06:25.873 -- Esther, why she thinks 3Arts 2016-08-06 15:06:25.887 -- Esther, why she thinks 3Arts 2016-08-06 15:06:28.878 has been successful so far in 2016-08-06 15:06:28.884 their efforts? 2016-08-06 15:06:28.893 has been successful so far in 2016-08-06 15:06:28.894 their efforts? 2016-08-06 15:06:32.899 And she said that Kerry said to 2016-08-06 15:06:32.914 And she said that Kerry said to 2016-08-06 15:06:36.9 her, the reason 3Arts has been 2016-08-06 15:06:36.915 her, the reason 3Arts has been 2016-08-06 15:06:40.901 successful is Esther listen to 2016-08-06 15:06:40.916 successful is Esther listen to 2016-08-06 15:06:42.9 her and then she took action. 2016-08-06 15:06:42.914 her and then she took action. 2016-08-06 15:06:48.9 So, it does follow Bar 2016-08-06 15:06:48.901 ak's 2016-08-06 15:06:48.915 So, it does follow Bar 2016-08-06 15:06:48.916 ak's 2016-08-06 15:06:51.943 principle of the 12121 does you 2016-08-06 15:06:51.945 and Kerry found each other and 2016-08-06 15:06:51.958 principle of the 12121 does you 2016-08-06 15:06:51.959 and Kerry found each other and 2016-08-06 15:06:54.943 together you created this thing 2016-08-06 15:06:54.944 and -- 2016-08-06 15:06:54.957 together you created this thing 2016-08-06 15:06:54.958 and -- 2016-08-06 15:06:58.946 Esther: Yeah, I don't think I 2016-08-06 15:06:58.961 Esther: Yeah, I don't think I 2016-08-06 15:07:02.941 can add to the one by one by one 2016-08-06 15:07:02.956 can add to the one by one by one 2016-08-06 15:07:03.947 , because I really love that. 2016-08-06 15:07:03.962 , because I really love that. 2016-08-06 15:07:07.946 But, yeah, I wish it were 2016-08-06 15:07:07.948 something more complex. 2016-08-06 15:07:07.949 I wish I had a more complicated 2016-08-06 15:07:07.961 But, yeah, I wish it were 2016-08-06 15:07:07.962 something more complex. 2016-08-06 15:07:07.964 I wish I had a more complicated 2016-08-06 15:07:13.952 answer, a kind of jazzy 2016-08-06 15:07:13.953 answer 2016-08-06 15:07:13.967 answer, a kind of jazzy 2016-08-06 15:07:13.968 answer 2016-08-06 15:07:14.954 for you, but really in our 2016-08-06 15:07:14.956 experience, we have a philosophy 2016-08-06 15:07:14.969 for you, but really in our 2016-08-06 15:07:14.971 experience, we have a philosophy 2016-08-06 15:07:19.983 at 3Arts that 2016-08-06 15:07:19.998 at 3Arts that 2016-08-06 15:07:21.028 , you know, 2016-08-06 15:07:21.03 everything we build is based on 2016-08-06 15:07:21.043 , you know, 2016-08-06 15:07:21.045 everything we build is based on 2016-08-06 15:07:26.031 listening to artists and what 2016-08-06 15:07:26.033 they need and weighing that in 2016-08-06 15:07:26.034 the balance with our resources 2016-08-06 15:07:26.046 listening to artists and what 2016-08-06 15:07:26.047 they need and weighing that in 2016-08-06 15:07:26.049 the balance with our resources 2016-08-06 15:07:30.028 and capacity. 2016-08-06 15:07:30.043 and capacity. 2016-08-06 15:07:32.028 And we try and stretch ourselves 2016-08-06 15:07:32.042 And we try and stretch ourselves 2016-08-06 15:07:36.035 really as far as we can to 2016-08-06 15:07:36.05 really as far as we can to 2016-08-06 15:07:39.03 support individual artists 2016-08-06 15:07:39.031 individually. 2016-08-06 15:07:39.032 You know? 2016-08-06 15:07:39.045 support individual artists 2016-08-06 15:07:39.047 individually. 2016-08-06 15:07:39.048 You know? 2016-08-06 15:07:42.029 Our office is always open. 2016-08-06 15:07:42.045 Our office is always open. 2016-08-06 15:07:45.027 We give feedback sessions to any 2016-08-06 15:07:45.042 We give feedback sessions to any 2016-08-06 15:07:49.033 artist nominated for an award 2016-08-06 15:07:49.047 artist nominated for an award 2016-08-06 15:07:50.03 that did not get it. 2016-08-06 15:07:50.044 that did not get it. 2016-08-06 15:07:52.031 Those are one-on-one sessions. 2016-08-06 15:07:52.045 Those are one-on-one sessions. 2016-08-06 15:07:55.074 We have one-on-one financial 2016-08-06 15:07:55.076 award shows. 2016-08-06 15:07:55.077 We have mentorship, coaching, 2016-08-06 15:07:55.089 We have one-on-one financial 2016-08-06 15:07:55.091 award shows. 2016-08-06 15:07:55.092 We have mentorship, coaching, 2016-08-06 15:08:02.075 and Cetera -- 2016-08-06 15:08:02.076 coaching etc. 2016-08-06 15:08:02.089 and Cetera -- 2016-08-06 15:08:02.09 coaching etc. 2016-08-06 15:08:03.074 I don't know. 2016-08-06 15:08:03.076 It may be a chicken and egg 2016-08-06 15:08:03.077 thing. 2016-08-06 15:08:03.089 I don't know. 2016-08-06 15:08:03.09 It may be a chicken and egg 2016-08-06 15:08:03.092 thing. 2016-08-06 15:08:10.126 Barak's style, my 2016-08-06 15:08:10.127 style, 2016-08-06 15:08:10.14 Barak's style, my 2016-08-06 15:08:10.141 style, 2016-08-06 15:08:15.124 organizational style, or if the 2016-08-06 15:08:15.139 organizational style, or if the 2016-08-06 15:08:16.128 two things are conjoined -- but 2016-08-06 15:08:16.13 I think everything is built 2016-08-06 15:08:16.131 well. 2016-08-06 15:08:16.143 two things are conjoined -- but 2016-08-06 15:08:16.145 I think everything is built 2016-08-06 15:08:16.146 well. 2016-08-06 15:08:20.128 Not from the top down, not from 2016-08-06 15:08:20.13 the numbers down, but you build 2016-08-06 15:08:20.143 Not from the top down, not from 2016-08-06 15:08:20.145 the numbers down, but you build 2016-08-06 15:08:24.202 it, learning each step of the 2016-08-06 15:08:24.217 it, learning each step of the 2016-08-06 15:08:28.196 way. 2016-08-06 15:08:28.211 way. 2016-08-06 15:08:33.239 Barak: I want to add 2016-08-06 15:08:33.24 something 2016-08-06 15:08:33.242 that Esther shared with me that 2016-08-06 15:08:33.254 Barak: I want to add 2016-08-06 15:08:33.255 something 2016-08-06 15:08:33.257 that Esther shared with me that 2016-08-06 15:08:34.238 I thought was really important 2016-08-06 15:08:34.253 I thought was really important 2016-08-06 15:08:36.241 between this notion of listening 2016-08-06 15:08:36.255 between this notion of listening 2016-08-06 15:08:39.24 to action -- the responsiveness. 2016-08-06 15:08:39.255 to action -- the responsiveness. 2016-08-06 15:08:41.239 You mentioned that. 2016-08-06 15:08:41.255 You mentioned that. 2016-08-06 15:08:45.243 I listen to that about two years 2016-08-06 15:08:45.258 I listen to that about two years 2016-08-06 15:08:50.279 ago, responsiveness 2016-08-06 15:08:50.294 ago, responsiveness 2016-08-06 15:08:51.279 , how to you 2016-08-06 15:08:51.293 , how to you 2016-08-06 15:08:53.326 respond to what is communicated 2016-08-06 15:08:53.327 to you? 2016-08-06 15:08:53.341 respond to what is communicated 2016-08-06 15:08:53.342 to you? 2016-08-06 15:08:55.378 How do you let the artist to 2016-08-06 15:08:55.393 How do you let the artist to 2016-08-06 15:08:56.406 know you have responded? 2016-08-06 15:08:56.408 In the interim time of being 2016-08-06 15:08:56.421 know you have responded? 2016-08-06 15:08:56.423 In the interim time of being 2016-08-06 15:08:59.404 able to act, we cannot act all 2016-08-06 15:08:59.405 of the time. 2016-08-06 15:08:59.418 able to act, we cannot act all 2016-08-06 15:08:59.42 of the time. 2016-08-06 15:09:04.405 We can try to make those things 2016-08-06 15:09:04.407 happen and manifest, but in the 2016-08-06 15:09:04.419 We can try to make those things 2016-08-06 15:09:04.421 happen and manifest, but in the 2016-08-06 15:09:07.445 time between the listening and 2016-08-06 15:09:07.461 time between the listening and 2016-08-06 15:09:12.454 responding to let them know 2016-08-06 15:09:12.455 we 2016-08-06 15:09:12.456 have listened and moving them 2016-08-06 15:09:12.471 responding to let them know 2016-08-06 15:09:12.472 we 2016-08-06 15:09:12.473 have listened and moving them 2016-08-06 15:09:15.486 toward the act or the action and 2016-08-06 15:09:15.501 toward the act or the action and 2016-08-06 15:09:21.489 to not leave any 2016-08-06 15:09:21.49 opportunity for 2016-08-06 15:09:21.504 to not leave any 2016-08-06 15:09:21.505 opportunity for 2016-08-06 15:09:24.574 gaps that do not carry that. 2016-08-06 15:09:24.589 gaps that do not carry that. 2016-08-06 15:09:34.626 We have to look at the rigor 2016-08-06 15:09:34.626 of 2016-08-06 15:09:34.641 We have to look at the rigor 2016-08-06 15:09:34.642 of 2016-08-06 15:09:37.624 communication in this regard. 2016-08-06 15:09:37.639 communication in this regard. 2016-08-06 15:09:38.625 We have to think that simple is 2016-08-06 15:09:38.64 We have to think that simple is 2016-08-06 15:09:41.624 actually so important moving it 2016-08-06 15:09:41.639 actually so important moving it 2016-08-06 15:09:42.632 forward. 2016-08-06 15:09:42.647 forward. 2016-08-06 15:09:47.625 We can all draw into that. 2016-08-06 15:09:47.64 We can all draw into that. 2016-08-06 15:09:52.738 To not take for granted, to 2016-08-06 15:09:52.753 To not take for granted, to 2016-08-06 15:09:53.741 not 2016-08-06 15:09:53.748 take into some process something 2016-08-06 15:09:53.756 not 2016-08-06 15:09:53.757 take into some process something 2016-08-06 15:09:57.781 that we thought was so small, to 2016-08-06 15:09:57.782 move that forward. 2016-08-06 15:09:57.796 that we thought was so small, to 2016-08-06 15:09:57.797 move that forward. 2016-08-06 15:10:01.792 When Esther brought 2016-08-06 15:10:01.794 responsiveness, it is being in 2016-08-06 15:10:01.807 When Esther brought 2016-08-06 15:10:01.808 responsiveness, it is being in 2016-08-06 15:10:06.782 tune with that and understanding 2016-08-06 15:10:06.784 that that has to move in its own 2016-08-06 15:10:06.797 tune with that and understanding 2016-08-06 15:10:06.799 that that has to move in its own 2016-08-06 15:10:09.781 time in its own way, and so we 2016-08-06 15:10:09.783 continue to do that. 2016-08-06 15:10:09.796 time in its own way, and so we 2016-08-06 15:10:09.798 continue to do that. 2016-08-06 15:10:18.782 Esther: I was just thinking to 2016-08-06 15:10:18.797 Esther: I was just thinking to 2016-08-06 15:10:21.785 add to that, I think, is one 2016-08-06 15:10:21.787 ability. 2016-08-06 15:10:21.8 add to that, I think, is one 2016-08-06 15:10:21.801 ability. 2016-08-06 15:10:23.783 A willingness to be vulnerable 2016-08-06 15:10:23.798 A willingness to be vulnerable 2016-08-06 15:10:28.825 and to say, gee, I don't 2016-08-06 15:10:28.826 know. 2016-08-06 15:10:28.827 What do you think? 2016-08-06 15:10:28.84 and to say, gee, I don't 2016-08-06 15:10:28.841 know. 2016-08-06 15:10:28.843 What do you think? 2016-08-06 15:10:32.827 To just be in it. 2016-08-06 15:10:32.842 To just be in it. 2016-08-06 15:10:37.825 It is not easy, especially when, 2016-08-06 15:10:37.839 It is not easy, especially when, 2016-08-06 15:10:38.826 especially those of us in the 2016-08-06 15:10:38.841 especially those of us in the 2016-08-06 15:10:41.873 nonprofit world, have so much. 2016-08-06 15:10:41.887 nonprofit world, have so much. 2016-08-06 15:10:42.875 But I think that gets us on the 2016-08-06 15:10:42.877 pathway where we want to go. 2016-08-06 15:10:42.89 But I think that gets us on the 2016-08-06 15:10:42.892 pathway where we want to go. 2016-08-06 15:10:47.874 Christine: That's great. 2016-08-06 15:10:47.889 Christine: That's great. 2016-08-06 15:10:49.877 With that, I think we will open 2016-08-06 15:10:49.878 it up to anyone who has any 2016-08-06 15:10:49.879 questions. 2016-08-06 15:10:49.891 With that, I think we will open 2016-08-06 15:10:49.893 it up to anyone who has any 2016-08-06 15:10:49.894 questions. 2016-08-06 15:11:03.909 >> so, I'm -- when you are 2016-08-06 15:11:03.91 mentioning the process of 2016-08-06 15:11:03.924 >> so, I'm -- when you are 2016-08-06 15:11:03.925 mentioning the process of 2016-08-06 15:11:06.916 feedback and one-on-one 2016-08-06 15:11:06.919 feedback, that is so 2016-08-06 15:11:06.92 extraordinary to me, 2016-08-06 15:11:06.928 feedback and one-on-one 2016-08-06 15:11:06.93 feedback, that is so 2016-08-06 15:11:06.931 extraordinary to me, 2016-08-06 15:11:08.911 particularly when it comes to 2016-08-06 15:11:08.925 particularly when it comes to 2016-08-06 15:11:12.906 artists with disabilities. 2016-08-06 15:11:12.921 artists with disabilities. 2016-08-06 15:11:15.924 Sometimes people do not want to 2016-08-06 15:11:15.939 Sometimes people do not want to 2016-08-06 15:11:16.927 give feedback because they are 2016-08-06 15:11:16.929 afraid of hurting feelings, or 2016-08-06 15:11:16.942 give feedback because they are 2016-08-06 15:11:16.944 afraid of hurting feelings, or 2016-08-06 15:11:17.925 you know -- or they don't know 2016-08-06 15:11:17.94 you know -- or they don't know 2016-08-06 15:11:20.926 how. 2016-08-06 15:11:20.941 how. 2016-08-06 15:11:21.929 So, I'm just curious, either 2016-08-06 15:11:21.944 So, I'm just curious, either 2016-08-06 15:11:23.949 from the perspective of giving 2016-08-06 15:11:23.964 from the perspective of giving 2016-08-06 15:11:29.95 feedback or, Barak 2016-08-06 15:11:29.951 , your 2016-08-06 15:11:29.965 feedback or, Barak 2016-08-06 15:11:29.966 , your 2016-08-06 15:11:31.947 experience of who you trust to 2016-08-06 15:11:31.962 experience of who you trust to 2016-08-06 15:11:33.95 give you feedback, how you seek 2016-08-06 15:11:33.964 give you feedback, how you seek 2016-08-06 15:11:34.952 feedback on your work, just a 2016-08-06 15:11:34.967 feedback on your work, just a 2016-08-06 15:11:36.947 little bit about feedback? 2016-08-06 15:11:36.962 little bit about feedback? 2016-08-06 15:11:42.95 Esther: I will go 2016-08-06 15:11:42.951 quickly. 2016-08-06 15:11:42.965 Esther: I will go 2016-08-06 15:11:42.966 quickly. 2016-08-06 15:11:43.992 I think yours will be more 2016-08-06 15:11:43.993 interesting than mine. 2016-08-06 15:11:43.994 It is unusual. 2016-08-06 15:11:44.007 I think yours will be more 2016-08-06 15:11:44.008 interesting than mine. 2016-08-06 15:11:44.009 It is unusual. 2016-08-06 15:11:47.993 And it's unusual in the world of 2016-08-06 15:11:48.008 And it's unusual in the world of 2016-08-06 15:11:52.994 our awards programs and 2016-08-06 15:11:53.009 our awards programs and 2016-08-06 15:11:54.034 significant grants for 2016-08-06 15:11:54.049 significant grants for 2016-08-06 15:11:55.079 individual artists. 2016-08-06 15:11:55.081 More often than not you get a 2016-08-06 15:11:55.094 individual artists. 2016-08-06 15:11:55.096 More often than not you get a 2016-08-06 15:11:58.073 letter in the mail that says 2016-08-06 15:11:58.088 letter in the mail that says 2016-08-06 15:12:00.074 sorry, Charlie or 2016-08-06 15:12:00.089 sorry, Charlie or 2016-08-06 15:12:01.077 congratulations, Charlie. 2016-08-06 15:12:01.092 congratulations, Charlie. 2016-08-06 15:12:03.075 We added this line -- I don't 2016-08-06 15:12:03.077 remember anymore, five years ago 2016-08-06 15:12:03.089 We added this line -- I don't 2016-08-06 15:12:03.091 remember anymore, five years ago 2016-08-06 15:12:07.077 -- that said at the bottom, if 2016-08-06 15:12:07.079 you want to meet with us, call. 2016-08-06 15:12:07.092 -- that said at the bottom, if 2016-08-06 15:12:07.094 you want to meet with us, call. 2016-08-06 15:12:14.083 We have to meet 2016-08-06 15:12:14.084 before our 2016-08-06 15:12:14.085 awards program. 2016-08-06 15:12:14.087 We just picked our newest 2016-08-06 15:12:14.098 We have to meet 2016-08-06 15:12:14.099 before our 2016-08-06 15:12:14.1 awards program. 2016-08-06 15:12:14.102 We just picked our newest 2016-08-06 15:12:16.125 awardees. 2016-08-06 15:12:16.14 awardees. 2016-08-06 15:12:20.125 By the end of this year, you can 2016-08-06 15:12:20.14 By the end of this year, you can 2016-08-06 15:12:21.126 no longer have a feedback 2016-08-06 15:12:21.141 no longer have a feedback 2016-08-06 15:12:24.125 session because the cycle starts 2016-08-06 15:12:24.14 session because the cycle starts 2016-08-06 15:12:26.177 up again and we do not want a 2016-08-06 15:12:26.179 conflict for people who may be 2016-08-06 15:12:26.181 reapplying, right? 2016-08-06 15:12:26.192 up again and we do not want a 2016-08-06 15:12:26.194 conflict for people who may be 2016-08-06 15:12:26.195 reapplying, right? 2016-08-06 15:12:30.177 We have these one-on-one 2016-08-06 15:12:30.178 sessions. 2016-08-06 15:12:30.192 We have these one-on-one 2016-08-06 15:12:30.193 sessions. 2016-08-06 15:12:34.178 We have about 30 a year. 2016-08-06 15:12:34.179 I think that's a third of all 2016-08-06 15:12:34.192 We have about 30 a year. 2016-08-06 15:12:34.194 I think that's a third of all 2016-08-06 15:12:38.177 applicants seeking feedback. 2016-08-06 15:12:38.192 applicants seeking feedback. 2016-08-06 15:12:40.178 They begin the same way. 2016-08-06 15:12:40.18 We will share with you anything 2016-08-06 15:12:40.193 They begin the same way. 2016-08-06 15:12:40.195 We will share with you anything 2016-08-06 15:12:41.175 the judges -- and you remember 2016-08-06 15:12:41.19 the judges -- and you remember 2016-08-06 15:12:46.206 this -- asked us to 2016-08-06 15:12:46.207 share with 2016-08-06 15:12:46.209 you, particularly observations 2016-08-06 15:12:46.221 this -- asked us to 2016-08-06 15:12:46.222 share with 2016-08-06 15:12:46.223 you, particularly observations 2016-08-06 15:12:49.211 about your application. 2016-08-06 15:12:49.213 But we are also going to share 2016-08-06 15:12:49.227 about your application. 2016-08-06 15:12:49.229 But we are also going to share 2016-08-06 15:12:54.243 with you 2016-08-06 15:12:54.244 our opinion as the 2016-08-06 15:12:54.258 with you 2016-08-06 15:12:54.259 our opinion as the 2016-08-06 15:12:55.295 facilitator of this program what 2016-08-06 15:12:55.309 facilitator of this program what 2016-08-06 15:12:58.284 might have strengthened this 2016-08-06 15:12:58.286 application. 2016-08-06 15:12:58.299 might have strengthened this 2016-08-06 15:12:58.301 application. 2016-08-06 15:13:04.284 This is where Barak comes 2016-08-06 15:13:04.285 in, 2016-08-06 15:13:04.287 because rarely -- we don't talk 2016-08-06 15:13:04.299 This is where Barak comes 2016-08-06 15:13:04.3 in, 2016-08-06 15:13:04.302 because rarely -- we don't talk 2016-08-06 15:13:10.285 about the so-called quality 2016-08-06 15:13:10.286 of 2016-08-06 15:13:10.287 the work. 2016-08-06 15:13:10.3 about the so-called quality 2016-08-06 15:13:10.301 of 2016-08-06 15:13:10.302 the work. 2016-08-06 15:13:14.287 We have a very firm policy that 2016-08-06 15:13:14.289 we don't tell our jury panels, 2016-08-06 15:13:14.302 We have a very firm policy that 2016-08-06 15:13:14.304 we don't tell our jury panels, 2016-08-06 15:13:19.29 you know, quality is based on 2016-08-06 15:13:19.291 these seven things. 2016-08-06 15:13:19.304 you know, quality is based on 2016-08-06 15:13:19.306 these seven things. 2016-08-06 15:13:24.288 Quality in our mind is 2016-08-06 15:13:24.29 completely subjective. 2016-08-06 15:13:24.303 Quality in our mind is 2016-08-06 15:13:24.304 completely subjective. 2016-08-06 15:13:29.286 And to try and rank it brings to 2016-08-06 15:13:29.301 And to try and rank it brings to 2016-08-06 15:13:30.3 bear whose quality, right? 2016-08-06 15:13:30.315 bear whose quality, right? 2016-08-06 15:13:33.288 Who is being the judge here? 2016-08-06 15:13:33.29 We don't do that. 2016-08-06 15:13:33.303 Who is being the judge here? 2016-08-06 15:13:33.304 We don't do that. 2016-08-06 15:13:41.289 But what we do do, gee, 2016-08-06 15:13:41.29 you 2016-08-06 15:13:41.304 But what we do do, gee, 2016-08-06 15:13:41.305 you 2016-08-06 15:13:42.286 explained how you make your art, 2016-08-06 15:13:42.301 explained how you make your art, 2016-08-06 15:13:43.287 but you never explained why. 2016-08-06 15:13:43.302 but you never explained why. 2016-08-06 15:13:45.287 That's a very common error. 2016-08-06 15:13:45.302 That's a very common error. 2016-08-06 15:13:49.288 We ask you to explain in about 2016-08-06 15:13:49.29 three questions on the 2016-08-06 15:13:49.303 We ask you to explain in about 2016-08-06 15:13:49.305 three questions on the 2016-08-06 15:13:51.291 application, we ask you to 2016-08-06 15:13:51.306 application, we ask you to 2016-08-06 15:13:54.332 explain your full self, and you 2016-08-06 15:13:54.333 only said you are a visual 2016-08-06 15:13:54.346 explain your full self, and you 2016-08-06 15:13:54.348 only said you are a visual 2016-08-06 15:13:59.374 artist with X 2016-08-06 15:13:59.389 artist with X 2016-08-06 15:14:00.374 Gallery, so we do 2016-08-06 15:14:00.39 Gallery, so we do 2016-08-06 15:14:01.378 not have a good sense of you. 2016-08-06 15:14:01.379 When we asked you to talk about 2016-08-06 15:14:01.393 not have a good sense of you. 2016-08-06 15:14:01.395 When we asked you to talk about 2016-08-06 15:14:05.377 what you dream about doing in 2016-08-06 15:14:05.378 the future, you did not take us 2016-08-06 15:14:05.38 all the way home. 2016-08-06 15:14:05.392 what you dream about doing in 2016-08-06 15:14:05.393 the future, you did not take us 2016-08-06 15:14:05.395 all the way home. 2016-08-06 15:14:11.424 On your application -- 2016-08-06 15:14:11.425 we 2016-08-06 15:14:11.439 On your application -- 2016-08-06 15:14:11.439 we 2016-08-06 15:14:12.426 designed it ourselves. 2016-08-06 15:14:12.44 designed it ourselves. 2016-08-06 15:14:13.43 It is an online portal. 2016-08-06 15:14:13.445 It is an online portal. 2016-08-06 15:14:14.425 We have notes for artist's. 2016-08-06 15:14:14.44 We have notes for artist's. 2016-08-06 15:14:19.426 The first note as, pretend you 2016-08-06 15:14:19.458 The first note as, pretend you 2016-08-06 15:14:20.425 are in the room with the judges 2016-08-06 15:14:20.44 are in the room with the judges 2016-08-06 15:14:21.426 right now and you are given five 2016-08-06 15:14:21.441 right now and you are given five 2016-08-06 15:14:22.425 minutes. 2016-08-06 15:14:22.427 What do they need to know. 2016-08-06 15:14:22.44 minutes. 2016-08-06 15:14:22.442 What do they need to know. 2016-08-06 15:14:26.438 Feedback session takes about an 2016-08-06 15:14:26.453 Feedback session takes about an 2016-08-06 15:14:28.455 hour and a half. 2016-08-06 15:14:28.457 It's one-on-one. 2016-08-06 15:14:28.458 It is closed door. 2016-08-06 15:14:28.47 hour and a half. 2016-08-06 15:14:28.471 It's one-on-one. 2016-08-06 15:14:28.473 It is closed door. 2016-08-06 15:14:32.455 There have been artist's our 2016-08-06 15:14:32.47 There have been artist's our 2016-08-06 15:14:34.453 offices who have been nominated, 2016-08-06 15:14:34.468 offices who have been nominated, 2016-08-06 15:14:35.459 you know, five times in a row 2016-08-06 15:14:35.461 who are very frustrated. 2016-08-06 15:14:35.474 you know, five times in a row 2016-08-06 15:14:35.475 who are very frustrated. 2016-08-06 15:14:41.226 We explained we don't pick the 2016-08-06 15:14:41.227 artists. 2016-08-06 15:14:41.241 We explained we don't pick the 2016-08-06 15:14:41.242 artists. 2016-08-06 15:14:44.225 The judges change every year. 2016-08-06 15:14:44.251 The judges change every year. 2016-08-06 15:14:48.239 Therefore, never Pass up an 2016-08-06 15:14:48.254 Therefore, never Pass up an 2016-08-06 15:14:49.225 opportunity to apply. 2016-08-06 15:14:49.24 opportunity to apply. 2016-08-06 15:14:52.238 Sometimes we shall the other 2016-08-06 15:14:52.245 grant programs and help them 2016-08-06 15:14:52.253 Sometimes we shall the other 2016-08-06 15:14:52.255 grant programs and help them 2016-08-06 15:14:53.226 find a way to support their art. 2016-08-06 15:14:53.241 find a way to support their art. 2016-08-06 15:14:59.253 Those are 2016-08-06 15:14:59.254 them -- that is a 2016-08-06 15:14:59.255 cursory view of what we do. 2016-08-06 15:14:59.267 Those are 2016-08-06 15:14:59.269 them -- that is a 2016-08-06 15:14:59.27 cursory view of what we do. 2016-08-06 15:15:02.254 But it is a real one-on-one. 2016-08-06 15:15:02.269 But it is a real one-on-one. 2016-08-06 15:15:06.258 When you wrote this sentence, 2016-08-06 15:15:06.259 I'm trying to understand what 2016-08-06 15:15:06.26 you mean. 2016-08-06 15:15:06.274 When you wrote this sentence, 2016-08-06 15:15:06.276 I'm trying to understand what 2016-08-06 15:15:06.277 you mean. 2016-08-06 15:15:09.298 If you are leaving questions on 2016-08-06 15:15:09.313 If you are leaving questions on 2016-08-06 15:15:11.336 the table with me, I imagine you 2016-08-06 15:15:11.351 the table with me, I imagine you 2016-08-06 15:15:13.337 are leaving questions on the 2016-08-06 15:15:13.339 table with the jury panel. 2016-08-06 15:15:13.352 are leaving questions on the 2016-08-06 15:15:13.354 table with the jury panel. 2016-08-06 15:15:16.339 Remember when you write 2016-08-06 15:15:16.354 Remember when you write 2016-08-06 15:15:17.337 something to ask yourself, would 2016-08-06 15:15:17.352 something to ask yourself, would 2016-08-06 15:15:18.338 anybody understand it? 2016-08-06 15:15:18.353 anybody understand it? 2016-08-06 15:15:20.341 We don't care about grammar. 2016-08-06 15:15:20.356 We don't care about grammar. 2016-08-06 15:15:22.339 We don't care about misspellings 2016-08-06 15:15:22.34 . 2016-08-06 15:15:22.353 We don't care about misspellings 2016-08-06 15:15:22.355 . 2016-08-06 15:15:25.379 We don't care about formatting. 2016-08-06 15:15:25.394 We don't care about formatting. 2016-08-06 15:15:29.381 We take that off the table with 2016-08-06 15:15:29.383 the jury panel. 2016-08-06 15:15:29.396 We take that off the table with 2016-08-06 15:15:29.398 the jury panel. 2016-08-06 15:15:30.381 We don't talk about that stuff 2016-08-06 15:15:30.396 We don't talk about that stuff 2016-08-06 15:15:32.425 . 2016-08-06 15:15:32.44 . 2016-08-06 15:15:33.425 Does that help? 2016-08-06 15:15:33.44 Does that help? 2016-08-06 15:15:36.423 Barak: Thank you for not 2016-08-06 15:15:36.438 Barak: Thank you for not 2016-08-06 15:15:37.423 worrying about grammar and that. 2016-08-06 15:15:37.438 worrying about grammar and that. 2016-08-06 15:15:39.44 Those become barriers all the 2016-08-06 15:15:39.455 Those become barriers all the 2016-08-06 15:15:40.426 time. 2016-08-06 15:15:40.44 time. 2016-08-06 15:15:42.43 Sometimes they get in the way of 2016-08-06 15:15:42.44 Sometimes they get in the way of 2016-08-06 15:15:44.436 the artist trying to relay and 2016-08-06 15:15:44.451 the artist trying to relay and 2016-08-06 15:15:46.477 share the essence. 2016-08-06 15:15:46.492 share the essence. 2016-08-06 15:15:49.508 They cannot fit the format. 2016-08-06 15:15:49.522 They cannot fit the format. 2016-08-06 15:15:53.547 It is another box. 2016-08-06 15:15:53.549 It is another box within a box. 2016-08-06 15:15:53.562 It is another box. 2016-08-06 15:15:53.563 It is another box within a box. 2016-08-06 15:15:56.588 I appreciate it. 2016-08-06 15:15:56.59 I did not know that. 2016-08-06 15:15:56.603 I appreciate it. 2016-08-06 15:15:56.605 I did not know that. 2016-08-06 15:15:58.588 Wow. 2016-08-06 15:15:58.603 Wow. 2016-08-06 15:15:59.587 I did not know that. 2016-08-06 15:15:59.602 I did not know that. 2016-08-06 15:16:06.587 Do you 2016-08-06 15:16:06.602 Do you 2016-08-06 15:16:08.596 understand I sometimes 2016-08-06 15:16:08.598 spend time and ours making sure 2016-08-06 15:16:08.611 understand I sometimes 2016-08-06 15:16:08.613 spend time and ours making sure 2016-08-06 15:16:10.634 it is properly articulated? 2016-08-06 15:16:10.649 it is properly articulated? 2016-08-06 15:16:11.631 Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:16:11.646 Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:16:12.63 . 2016-08-06 15:16:12.645 . 2016-08-06 15:16:17.679 I want to say thank you. 2016-08-06 15:16:17.694 I want to say thank you. 2016-08-06 15:16:19.675 I also want to acknowledge that 2016-08-06 15:16:19.69 I also want to acknowledge that 2016-08-06 15:16:22.726 it feels like in my experience 2016-08-06 15:16:22.741 it feels like in my experience 2016-08-06 15:16:27.755 of making and performing art 2016-08-06 15:16:27.756 and 2016-08-06 15:16:27.758 making grants, how rare it is in 2016-08-06 15:16:27.77 of making and performing art 2016-08-06 15:16:27.771 and 2016-08-06 15:16:27.772 making grants, how rare it is in 2016-08-06 15:16:33.755 -- -- 2016-08-06 15:16:33.756 how rare it is to have 2016-08-06 15:16:33.758 an organization give that kind 2016-08-06 15:16:33.77 -- -- 2016-08-06 15:16:33.771 how rare it is to have 2016-08-06 15:16:33.773 an organization give that kind 2016-08-06 15:16:36.8 of feedback, to spend an hour 2016-08-06 15:16:36.802 and a half with anyone that 2016-08-06 15:16:36.803 wants to. 2016-08-06 15:16:36.815 of feedback, to spend an hour 2016-08-06 15:16:36.817 and a half with anyone that 2016-08-06 15:16:36.818 wants to. 2016-08-06 15:16:40.88 It gives opportunities to 2016-08-06 15:16:40.896 It gives opportunities to 2016-08-06 15:16:45.881 understand the content in the 2016-08-06 15:16:45.883 context in which you are making 2016-08-06 15:16:45.896 understand the content in the 2016-08-06 15:16:45.898 context in which you are making 2016-08-06 15:16:48.924 art and articulating that is a 2016-08-06 15:16:48.939 art and articulating that is a 2016-08-06 15:16:51.927 bridge to possibly align and 2016-08-06 15:16:51.942 bridge to possibly align and 2016-08-06 15:16:53.924 continue to think and progress 2016-08-06 15:16:53.926 their understanding. 2016-08-06 15:16:53.939 continue to think and progress 2016-08-06 15:16:53.94 their understanding. 2016-08-06 15:16:57.974 Their understanding of their own 2016-08-06 15:16:57.976 work and form and how they 2016-08-06 15:16:57.977 communicate it. 2016-08-06 15:16:57.989 Their understanding of their own 2016-08-06 15:16:57.991 work and form and how they 2016-08-06 15:16:57.992 communicate it. 2016-08-06 15:16:59.974 I thank you for that. 2016-08-06 15:16:59.989 I thank you for that. 2016-08-06 15:17:02.976 There was another talk about the 2016-08-06 15:17:02.99 There was another talk about the 2016-08-06 15:17:05.975 internal process of artist 2016-08-06 15:17:05.976 feedback. 2016-08-06 15:17:05.991 internal process of artist 2016-08-06 15:17:05.992 feedback. 2016-08-06 15:17:09.975 I began a process. 2016-08-06 15:17:09.99 I began a process. 2016-08-06 15:17:17.004 I need to acknowledge Liz 2016-08-06 15:17:17.019 I need to acknowledge Liz 2016-08-06 15:17:18.006 Lehrman for the critical 2016-08-06 15:17:18.007 response. 2016-08-06 15:17:18.02 Lehrman for the critical 2016-08-06 15:17:18.022 response. 2016-08-06 15:17:22.006 Around the late 1990's, I began 2016-08-06 15:17:22.02 Around the late 1990's, I began 2016-08-06 15:17:23.053 to utilize the critical 2016-08-06 15:17:23.054 response. 2016-08-06 15:17:23.068 to utilize the critical 2016-08-06 15:17:23.069 response. 2016-08-06 15:17:25.088 I have been in ongoing 2016-08-06 15:17:25.103 I have been in ongoing 2016-08-06 15:17:27.088 conversation since 1996 about 2016-08-06 15:17:27.103 conversation since 1996 about 2016-08-06 15:17:28.088 using that. 2016-08-06 15:17:28.103 using that. 2016-08-06 15:17:29.09 I use it all the time. 2016-08-06 15:17:29.105 I use it all the time. 2016-08-06 15:17:34.129 And have curated 2016-08-06 15:17:34.13 dialogues where 2016-08-06 15:17:34.144 And have curated 2016-08-06 15:17:34.145 dialogues where 2016-08-06 15:17:35.174 I facilitate using the critical 2016-08-06 15:17:35.176 response. 2016-08-06 15:17:35.189 I facilitate using the critical 2016-08-06 15:17:35.19 response. 2016-08-06 15:17:37.176 Are you all familiar with 2016-08-06 15:17:37.191 Are you all familiar with 2016-08-06 15:17:38.173 critical response? 2016-08-06 15:17:38.188 critical response? 2016-08-06 15:17:40.174 If you are not, please look it 2016-08-06 15:17:40.201 If you are not, please look it 2016-08-06 15:17:46.175 up online through Liz because 2016-08-06 15:17:46.176 I 2016-08-06 15:17:46.178 don't know that I can articulate 2016-08-06 15:17:46.19 up online through Liz because 2016-08-06 15:17:46.191 I 2016-08-06 15:17:46.193 don't know that I can articulate 2016-08-06 15:17:47.173 to you all of the nuances. 2016-08-06 15:17:47.188 to you all of the nuances. 2016-08-06 15:17:52.224 It is for me a leading 2016-08-06 15:17:52.225 practice 2016-08-06 15:17:52.239 It is for me a leading 2016-08-06 15:17:52.24 practice 2016-08-06 15:17:56.223 in being able to speak to work 2016-08-06 15:17:56.238 in being able to speak to work 2016-08-06 15:17:58.224 that is artist-centered, not 2016-08-06 15:17:58.239 that is artist-centered, not 2016-08-06 15:17:59.226 audience-centered. 2016-08-06 15:17:59.241 audience-centered. 2016-08-06 15:18:00.223 That is the challenge. 2016-08-06 15:18:00.239 That is the challenge. 2016-08-06 15:18:06.253 I have been 2016-08-06 15:18:06.268 I have been 2016-08-06 15:18:07.299 doing it since 1996. 2016-08-06 15:18:07.314 doing it since 1996. 2016-08-06 15:18:10.297 I also engage open space 2016-08-06 15:18:10.299 technology, which is another 2016-08-06 15:18:10.312 I also engage open space 2016-08-06 15:18:10.314 technology, which is another 2016-08-06 15:18:12.298 format. 2016-08-06 15:18:12.313 format. 2016-08-06 15:18:15.3 If you're not familiar with 2016-08-06 15:18:15.315 If you're not familiar with 2016-08-06 15:18:17.298 that, please look up open space 2016-08-06 15:18:17.299 technology. 2016-08-06 15:18:17.313 that, please look up open space 2016-08-06 15:18:17.314 technology. 2016-08-06 15:18:20.298 I utilize both methodologies in 2016-08-06 15:18:20.314 I utilize both methodologies in 2016-08-06 15:18:24.299 my practice to gain information 2016-08-06 15:18:24.301 from the audience and help 2016-08-06 15:18:24.314 my practice to gain information 2016-08-06 15:18:24.316 from the audience and help 2016-08-06 15:18:25.299 others facilitate their own 2016-08-06 15:18:25.314 others facilitate their own 2016-08-06 15:18:27.342 interests and investment in 2016-08-06 15:18:27.357 interests and investment in 2016-08-06 15:18:28.339 getting feedback. 2016-08-06 15:18:28.354 getting feedback. 2016-08-06 15:18:32.424 This for me was the first 2016-08-06 15:18:32.44 This for me was the first 2016-08-06 15:18:36.474 opportunity for me to engage 2016-08-06 15:18:36.489 opportunity for me to engage 2016-08-06 15:18:40.474 very clearly with 3Arts when I 2016-08-06 15:18:40.489 very clearly with 3Arts when I 2016-08-06 15:18:43.507 was asked to facilitate a 2016-08-06 15:18:43.508 critical response, my own 2016-08-06 15:18:43.522 was asked to facilitate a 2016-08-06 15:18:43.523 critical response, my own 2016-08-06 15:18:44.513 methodology approach, with a 2016-08-06 15:18:44.537 methodology approach, with a 2016-08-06 15:18:47.505 group of artists that received 2016-08-06 15:18:47.507 support through 3Arts. 2016-08-06 15:18:47.52 group of artists that received 2016-08-06 15:18:47.522 support through 3Arts. 2016-08-06 15:18:49.507 That was an opportunity within 2016-08-06 15:18:49.522 That was an opportunity within 2016-08-06 15:18:51.548 the interior of professional 2016-08-06 15:18:51.565 the interior of professional 2016-08-06 15:18:54.551 development, for them to be able 2016-08-06 15:18:54.552 to articulate that. 2016-08-06 15:18:54.566 development, for them to be able 2016-08-06 15:18:54.568 to articulate that. 2016-08-06 15:18:56.59 It was really interesting. 2016-08-06 15:18:56.605 It was really interesting. 2016-08-06 15:18:58.588 I am interested in the ongoing 2016-08-06 15:18:58.603 I am interested in the ongoing 2016-08-06 15:19:02.59 notion of critical discourse 2016-08-06 15:19:02.591 which is so essential. 2016-08-06 15:19:02.605 notion of critical discourse 2016-08-06 15:19:02.606 which is so essential. 2016-08-06 15:19:04.644 You brought up the notion of 2016-08-06 15:19:04.66 You brought up the notion of 2016-08-06 15:19:07.59 what happens when you add an 2016-08-06 15:19:07.605 what happens when you add an 2016-08-06 15:19:09.591 identifier and people do not 2016-08-06 15:19:09.593 want to approach that. 2016-08-06 15:19:09.607 identifier and people do not 2016-08-06 15:19:09.608 want to approach that. 2016-08-06 15:19:11.59 I cannot talk about it because 2016-08-06 15:19:11.605 I cannot talk about it because 2016-08-06 15:19:13.63 this person is disabled. 2016-08-06 15:19:13.645 this person is disabled. 2016-08-06 15:19:17.723 Really, honestly, if you cannot 2016-08-06 15:19:17.738 Really, honestly, if you cannot 2016-08-06 15:19:19.722 do that, that is OK. 2016-08-06 15:19:19.737 do that, that is OK. 2016-08-06 15:19:20.724 You don't have to. 2016-08-06 15:19:20.739 You don't have to. 2016-08-06 15:19:24.757 But if you're interested, I have 2016-08-06 15:19:24.759 used critical response to help 2016-08-06 15:19:24.772 But if you're interested, I have 2016-08-06 15:19:24.774 used critical response to help 2016-08-06 15:19:26.8 support the artist in that 2016-08-06 15:19:26.815 support the artist in that 2016-08-06 15:19:27.797 moment. 2016-08-06 15:19:27.812 moment. 2016-08-06 15:19:32.799 The artist gets the opportunity 2016-08-06 15:19:32.814 The artist gets the opportunity 2016-08-06 15:19:33.799 to ask questions of the audience 2016-08-06 15:19:33.801 that they want feedback for. 2016-08-06 15:19:33.814 to ask questions of the audience 2016-08-06 15:19:33.816 that they want feedback for. 2016-08-06 15:19:41.802 They get to -- 2016-08-06 15:19:41.803 oftentimes, the 2016-08-06 15:19:41.805 audience has to ask if they want 2016-08-06 15:19:41.806 an opinion. 2016-08-06 15:19:41.817 They get to -- 2016-08-06 15:19:41.818 oftentimes, the 2016-08-06 15:19:41.824 audience has to ask if they want 2016-08-06 15:19:41.826 an opinion. 2016-08-06 15:19:43.801 The artist says I don't want 2016-08-06 15:19:43.802 your opinion. 2016-08-06 15:19:43.817 The artist says I don't want 2016-08-06 15:19:43.818 your opinion. 2016-08-06 15:19:46.799 They get autonomy to the artist. 2016-08-06 15:19:46.814 They get autonomy to the artist. 2016-08-06 15:19:49.799 I think those are ways to 2016-08-06 15:19:49.8 approach that. 2016-08-06 15:19:49.814 I think those are ways to 2016-08-06 15:19:49.816 approach that. 2016-08-06 15:19:52.84 I'm interested in continuing 2016-08-06 15:19:52.855 I'm interested in continuing 2016-08-06 15:19:55.841 with 3Arts particularly on how 2016-08-06 15:19:55.842 to utilize that as an 2016-08-06 15:19:55.856 with 3Arts particularly on how 2016-08-06 15:19:55.857 to utilize that as an 2016-08-06 15:19:57.84 opportunity for artists to get 2016-08-06 15:19:57.855 opportunity for artists to get 2016-08-06 15:19:58.84 feedback and begin to deal with 2016-08-06 15:19:58.855 feedback and begin to deal with 2016-08-06 15:20:01.839 that bridge because that can 2016-08-06 15:20:01.855 that bridge because that can 2016-08-06 15:20:05.886 also become a barrier to them if 2016-08-06 15:20:05.888 you continue to feel like you 2016-08-06 15:20:05.901 also become a barrier to them if 2016-08-06 15:20:05.903 you continue to feel like you 2016-08-06 15:20:07.882 are in your own bubble and no 2016-08-06 15:20:07.897 are in your own bubble and no 2016-08-06 15:20:09.885 one wants -- know when that you 2016-08-06 15:20:09.9 one wants -- know when that you 2016-08-06 15:20:11.882 trust is able to give you 2016-08-06 15:20:11.897 trust is able to give you 2016-08-06 15:20:12.882 feedback. 2016-08-06 15:20:12.897 feedback. 2016-08-06 15:20:14.882 How do you grow? 2016-08-06 15:20:14.897 How do you grow? 2016-08-06 15:20:21.885 Google analysis and discourse -- 2016-08-06 15:20:21.887 critical analysis and discourse 2016-08-06 15:20:21.888 shapes our world. 2016-08-06 15:20:21.9 Google analysis and discourse -- 2016-08-06 15:20:21.902 critical analysis and discourse 2016-08-06 15:20:21.903 shapes our world. 2016-08-06 15:20:25.925 How can we support artists that 2016-08-06 15:20:25.94 How can we support artists that 2016-08-06 15:20:26.925 live in these identities and 2016-08-06 15:20:26.926 want to speak deeply to 2016-08-06 15:20:26.927 identities? 2016-08-06 15:20:26.94 live in these identities and 2016-08-06 15:20:26.941 want to speak deeply to 2016-08-06 15:20:26.942 identities? 2016-08-06 15:20:29.974 How can we support them and 2016-08-06 15:20:29.99 How can we support them and 2016-08-06 15:20:30.975 continuing to have conversations 2016-08-06 15:20:30.99 continuing to have conversations 2016-08-06 15:20:34.972 that supports their artistry 2016-08-06 15:20:34.974 through this critical lens. 2016-08-06 15:20:34.987 that supports their artistry 2016-08-06 15:20:34.99 through this critical lens. 2016-08-06 15:20:37.974 >> I had a question. 2016-08-06 15:20:37.989 >> I had a question. 2016-08-06 15:20:42.049 You mentioned earlier about 2016-08-06 15:20:42.064 You mentioned earlier about 2016-08-06 15:20:44.092 politely declining using 2016-08-06 15:20:44.107 politely declining using 2016-08-06 15:20:47.091 Steppenwolf's second studio 2016-08-06 15:20:47.092 theater. 2016-08-06 15:20:47.106 Steppenwolf's second studio 2016-08-06 15:20:47.107 theater. 2016-08-06 15:20:51.131 I wanted to ask more generally 2016-08-06 15:20:51.147 I wanted to ask more generally 2016-08-06 15:20:56.141 along those lines 2016-08-06 15:20:56.141 how as 2016-08-06 15:20:56.149 along those lines how as 2016-08-06 15:20:59.136 facilitators for institutions 2016-08-06 15:20:59.151 facilitators for institutions 2016-08-06 15:21:03.132 but also for artists, how to 2016-08-06 15:21:03.147 but also for artists, how to 2016-08-06 15:21:07.134 strategically navigate the 2016-08-06 15:21:07.149 strategically navigate the 2016-08-06 15:21:14.228 divide between 2016-08-06 15:21:14.229 disability 2016-08-06 15:21:14.23 community, culture, and arts, 2016-08-06 15:21:14.243 divide between 2016-08-06 15:21:14.244 disability 2016-08-06 15:21:14.246 community, culture, and arts, 2016-08-06 15:21:18.301 and all the funding and 2016-08-06 15:21:18.316 and all the funding and 2016-08-06 15:21:20.301 networking that goes around that 2016-08-06 15:21:20.303 to support artists and project 2016-08-06 15:21:20.316 networking that goes around that 2016-08-06 15:21:20.318 to support artists and project 2016-08-06 15:21:22.301 them out into the world to share 2016-08-06 15:21:22.315 them out into the world to share 2016-08-06 15:21:25.298 their vision and work with as 2016-08-06 15:21:25.314 their vision and work with as 2016-08-06 15:21:27.303 diverse an audience as possible. 2016-08-06 15:21:27.317 diverse an audience as possible. 2016-08-06 15:21:29.303 And how as an artist to then 2016-08-06 15:21:29.318 And how as an artist to then 2016-08-06 15:21:33.34 parlay some of that momentum 2016-08-06 15:21:33.355 parlay some of that momentum 2016-08-06 15:21:36.341 into a sort of parallel world of 2016-08-06 15:21:36.343 institutions that support 2016-08-06 15:21:36.356 into a sort of parallel world of 2016-08-06 15:21:36.358 institutions that support 2016-08-06 15:21:38.34 artists, that try to expose them 2016-08-06 15:21:38.355 artists, that try to expose them 2016-08-06 15:21:40.341 to audiences, but they are doing 2016-08-06 15:21:40.357 to audiences, but they are doing 2016-08-06 15:21:46.341 it on the mainstream without 2016-08-06 15:21:46.342 a 2016-08-06 15:21:46.357 it on the mainstream without 2016-08-06 15:21:46.357 a 2016-08-06 15:21:49.384 demarcation of it is this type 2016-08-06 15:21:49.401 demarcation of it is this type 2016-08-06 15:21:50.386 of artist that we are only 2016-08-06 15:21:50.401 of artist that we are only 2016-08-06 15:21:51.392 funding. 2016-08-06 15:21:51.403 funding. 2016-08-06 15:21:56.472 I think a good, overt example of 2016-08-06 15:21:56.487 I think a good, overt example of 2016-08-06 15:21:58.473 that is to participate in a 2016-08-06 15:21:58.488 that is to participate in a 2016-08-06 15:22:03.555 festival 2016-08-06 15:22:03.556 like Florida State. 2016-08-06 15:22:03.57 festival 2016-08-06 15:22:03.572 like Florida State. 2016-08-06 15:22:06.59 They had this big dance Festival 2016-08-06 15:22:06.605 They had this big dance Festival 2016-08-06 15:22:09.594 with major names. 2016-08-06 15:22:09.61 with major names. 2016-08-06 15:22:10.594 All the big names do it. 2016-08-06 15:22:10.609 All the big names do it. 2016-08-06 15:22:16.591 Then there is a secondary -- 2016-08-06 15:22:16.592 and 2016-08-06 15:22:16.606 Then there is a secondary -- 2016-08-06 15:22:16.607 and 2016-08-06 15:22:17.591 we are going to do a disabled 2016-08-06 15:22:17.593 festival as part of it. 2016-08-06 15:22:17.606 we are going to do a disabled 2016-08-06 15:22:17.608 festival as part of it. 2016-08-06 15:22:23.591 I wonder what is the 2016-08-06 15:22:23.591 strategy 2016-08-06 15:22:23.606 I wonder what is the 2016-08-06 15:22:23.607 strategy 2016-08-06 15:22:26.599 and how do you handle making a 2016-08-06 15:22:26.614 and how do you handle making a 2016-08-06 15:22:28.641 living as an artist and deciding 2016-08-06 15:22:28.656 living as an artist and deciding 2016-08-06 15:22:29.635 I am not doing the secondary 2016-08-06 15:22:29.65 I am not doing the secondary 2016-08-06 15:22:34.684 theater versus I need the 2016-08-06 15:22:34.699 theater versus I need the 2016-08-06 15:22:36.729 income 2016-08-06 15:22:36.744 income 2016-08-06 15:22:37.724 , so I am going to do it even 2016-08-06 15:22:37.726 though I don't feel it is 2016-08-06 15:22:37.727 appropriate. 2016-08-06 15:22:37.74 , so I am going to do it even 2016-08-06 15:22:37.741 though I don't feel it is 2016-08-06 15:22:37.743 appropriate. 2016-08-06 15:22:39.772 I am curious what your thoughts 2016-08-06 15:22:39.787 I am curious what your thoughts 2016-08-06 15:22:43.817 are on that divide and having 2016-08-06 15:22:43.833 are on that divide and having 2016-08-06 15:22:47.773 your foot in two places and how 2016-08-06 15:22:47.774 to navigate that. 2016-08-06 15:22:47.788 your foot in two places and how 2016-08-06 15:22:47.79 to navigate that. 2016-08-06 15:22:54.884 Barak: 2016-08-06 15:22:54.886 Now you're wanting me to 2016-08-06 15:22:54.887 speak politically. 2016-08-06 15:22:54.899 Barak: 2016-08-06 15:22:54.901 Now you're wanting me to 2016-08-06 15:22:54.902 speak politically. 2016-08-06 15:22:55.882 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 15:22:55.898 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 15:23:00.926 Barak: Which is not 2016-08-06 15:23:00.926 integrated 2016-08-06 15:23:00.941 Barak: Which is not 2016-08-06 15:23:00.942 integrated 2016-08-06 15:23:02.926 into my whole being, so I first 2016-08-06 15:23:02.941 into my whole being, so I first 2016-08-06 15:23:06.925 want to recognize that even 2016-08-06 15:23:06.94 want to recognize that even 2016-08-06 15:23:08.927 within the context of this 2016-08-06 15:23:08.929 conversation I am opening myself 2016-08-06 15:23:08.942 within the context of this 2016-08-06 15:23:08.944 conversation I am opening myself 2016-08-06 15:23:09.925 up to that conversation. 2016-08-06 15:23:09.94 up to that conversation. 2016-08-06 15:23:13.974 Not every artist should be 2016-08-06 15:23:13.989 Not every artist should be 2016-08-06 15:23:16.051 mandated to have to speak about 2016-08-06 15:23:16.066 mandated to have to speak about 2016-08-06 15:23:19.052 things politically or otherwise 2016-08-06 15:23:19.054 unless they want to speak about 2016-08-06 15:23:19.068 things politically or otherwise 2016-08-06 15:23:19.069 unless they want to speak about 2016-08-06 15:23:20.05 it. 2016-08-06 15:23:20.065 it. 2016-08-06 15:23:23.051 I say this because I think 2016-08-06 15:23:23.066 I say this because I think 2016-08-06 15:23:28.052 oftentimes I may be the first or 2016-08-06 15:23:28.068 oftentimes I may be the first or 2016-08-06 15:23:30.049 one of the first few to be the 2016-08-06 15:23:30.064 one of the first few to be the 2016-08-06 15:23:33.057 bridge, the gatekeeper to the 2016-08-06 15:23:33.072 bridge, the gatekeeper to the 2016-08-06 15:23:36.092 influx and flow of artists in 2016-08-06 15:23:36.107 influx and flow of artists in 2016-08-06 15:23:38.135 any identifiers. 2016-08-06 15:23:38.15 any identifiers. 2016-08-06 15:23:41.133 Oftentimes, I am the test. 2016-08-06 15:23:41.149 Oftentimes, I am the test. 2016-08-06 15:23:43.134 I am the experiment. 2016-08-06 15:23:43.149 I am the experiment. 2016-08-06 15:23:47.135 I am the what happens if we 2016-08-06 15:23:47.137 fail, what happens if we get it 2016-08-06 15:23:47.139 right. 2016-08-06 15:23:47.151 I am the what happens if we 2016-08-06 15:23:47.153 fail, what happens if we get it 2016-08-06 15:23:47.154 right. 2016-08-06 15:23:50.145 I recognize if you continue to 2016-08-06 15:23:50.161 I recognize if you continue to 2016-08-06 15:23:52.227 put artists through that, I hope 2016-08-06 15:23:52.242 put artists through that, I hope 2016-08-06 15:23:54.275 you acknowledge the fact you are 2016-08-06 15:23:54.277 putting them through that. 2016-08-06 15:23:54.29 you acknowledge the fact you are 2016-08-06 15:23:54.292 putting them through that. 2016-08-06 15:23:56.302 If you are not, you are helping 2016-08-06 15:23:56.317 If you are not, you are helping 2016-08-06 15:23:58.343 to not allow them to sustain 2016-08-06 15:23:58.345 their practice. 2016-08-06 15:23:58.358 to not allow them to sustain 2016-08-06 15:23:58.36 their practice. 2016-08-06 15:24:00.35 You're not allowing them to be 2016-08-06 15:24:00.362 You're not allowing them to be 2016-08-06 15:24:02.341 the artist they are designed to 2016-08-06 15:24:02.343 be. 2016-08-06 15:24:02.356 the artist they are designed to 2016-08-06 15:24:02.358 be. 2016-08-06 15:24:04.345 I recognize in this moment that 2016-08-06 15:24:04.36 I recognize in this moment that 2016-08-06 15:24:07.343 I am making myself honorable to 2016-08-06 15:24:07.358 I am making myself honorable to 2016-08-06 15:24:11.344 that because I choose -- making 2016-08-06 15:24:11.346 myself honorable to that because 2016-08-06 15:24:11.348 I choose to. 2016-08-06 15:24:11.36 that because I choose -- making 2016-08-06 15:24:11.361 myself honorable to that because 2016-08-06 15:24:11.363 I choose to. 2016-08-06 15:24:15.342 Not because I am mandated two. 2016-08-06 15:24:15.357 Not because I am mandated two. 2016-08-06 15:24:17.385 We should continue to allow for 2016-08-06 15:24:17.387 an artist to be first and 2016-08-06 15:24:17.4 We should continue to allow for 2016-08-06 15:24:17.402 an artist to be first and 2016-08-06 15:24:21.475 foremost in the conversation and 2016-08-06 15:24:21.477 ask them a question. 2016-08-06 15:24:21.49 foremost in the conversation and 2016-08-06 15:24:21.492 ask them a question. 2016-08-06 15:24:23.551 I have to say that. 2016-08-06 15:24:23.566 I have to say that. 2016-08-06 15:24:28.551 I say that to also recognize the 2016-08-06 15:24:28.553 artist that was a great 2016-08-06 15:24:28.566 I say that to also recognize the 2016-08-06 15:24:28.568 artist that was a great 2016-08-06 15:24:30.553 opportunity for them to be on a 2016-08-06 15:24:30.555 Steppenwolf stage of any kind. 2016-08-06 15:24:30.568 opportunity for them to be on a 2016-08-06 15:24:30.57 Steppenwolf stage of any kind. 2016-08-06 15:24:33.594 It is great. 2016-08-06 15:24:33.596 I do not want to belittle that. 2016-08-06 15:24:33.609 It is great. 2016-08-06 15:24:33.611 I do not want to belittle that. 2016-08-06 15:24:35.597 I want to recognize the fact 2016-08-06 15:24:35.612 I want to recognize the fact 2016-08-06 15:24:36.594 there are demarcations all the 2016-08-06 15:24:36.609 there are demarcations all the 2016-08-06 15:24:38.591 time. 2016-08-06 15:24:38.606 time. 2016-08-06 15:24:41.596 Constantly it is placed in a 2016-08-06 15:24:41.598 different box. 2016-08-06 15:24:41.611 Constantly it is placed in a 2016-08-06 15:24:41.613 different box. 2016-08-06 15:24:44.593 Not a box I chose to be in but a 2016-08-06 15:24:44.608 Not a box I chose to be in but a 2016-08-06 15:24:47.594 box placed to support a funding 2016-08-06 15:24:47.615 box placed to support a funding 2016-08-06 15:24:49.595 situation, in order to create a 2016-08-06 15:24:49.61 situation, in order to create a 2016-08-06 15:24:51.595 furniture -- further 2016-08-06 15:24:51.61 furniture -- further 2016-08-06 15:24:53.595 marginalization of me in that 2016-08-06 15:24:53.596 moment. 2016-08-06 15:24:53.61 marginalization of me in that 2016-08-06 15:24:53.612 moment. 2016-08-06 15:24:56.594 I don't need to be further 2016-08-06 15:24:56.596 marginalized. 2016-08-06 15:24:56.61 I don't need to be further 2016-08-06 15:24:56.611 marginalized. 2016-08-06 15:25:00.595 I don't need to be categorized 2016-08-06 15:25:00.596 beyond my own 2016-08-06 15:25:00.597 self-identification. 2016-08-06 15:25:00.61 I don't need to be categorized 2016-08-06 15:25:00.611 beyond my own 2016-08-06 15:25:00.613 self-identification. 2016-08-06 15:25:06.678 When we put those 2016-08-06 15:25:06.679 in a separate 2016-08-06 15:25:06.693 When we put those 2016-08-06 15:25:06.694 in a separate 2016-08-06 15:25:08.722 category, we marginalize them. 2016-08-06 15:25:08.737 category, we marginalize them. 2016-08-06 15:25:10.725 Have you asked them if they want 2016-08-06 15:25:10.727 to be there. 2016-08-06 15:25:10.741 Have you asked them if they want 2016-08-06 15:25:10.742 to be there. 2016-08-06 15:25:13.726 That asking is precarious. 2016-08-06 15:25:13.741 That asking is precarious. 2016-08-06 15:25:16.772 What artist does not want to get 2016-08-06 15:25:16.773 that support? 2016-08-06 15:25:16.788 What artist does not want to get 2016-08-06 15:25:16.789 that support? 2016-08-06 15:25:19.784 What artist does not want to 2016-08-06 15:25:19.786 have that platform? 2016-08-06 15:25:19.8 What artist does not want to 2016-08-06 15:25:19.802 have that platform? 2016-08-06 15:25:21.812 It is quite precarious. 2016-08-06 15:25:21.828 It is quite precarious. 2016-08-06 15:25:24.886 It is up to those making 2016-08-06 15:25:24.904 It is up to those making 2016-08-06 15:25:26.928 decisions because it is 2016-08-06 15:25:26.943 decisions because it is 2016-08-06 15:25:27.926 oftentimes not the artist 2016-08-06 15:25:27.941 oftentimes not the artist 2016-08-06 15:25:29.928 present. 2016-08-06 15:25:29.943 present. 2016-08-06 15:25:33.931 Make the decision to begin to 2016-08-06 15:25:33.933 ask yourself and rigorously 2016-08-06 15:25:33.947 Make the decision to begin to 2016-08-06 15:25:33.948 ask yourself and rigorously 2016-08-06 15:25:35.978 address, are you further 2016-08-06 15:25:35.993 address, are you further 2016-08-06 15:25:38.973 marginalizing them in the act of 2016-08-06 15:25:38.974 supporting them? 2016-08-06 15:25:38.988 marginalizing them in the act of 2016-08-06 15:25:38.99 supporting them? 2016-08-06 15:25:41.975 If you can begin to ask that 2016-08-06 15:25:41.99 If you can begin to ask that 2016-08-06 15:25:44.025 question, I think you are 2016-08-06 15:25:44.039 question, I think you are 2016-08-06 15:25:46.053 beginning to awake to 2016-08-06 15:25:46.068 beginning to awake to 2016-08-06 15:25:48.057 consciousness that allows us to 2016-08-06 15:25:48.072 consciousness that allows us to 2016-08-06 15:25:50.051 look at and possibly dismantle 2016-08-06 15:25:50.067 look at and possibly dismantle 2016-08-06 15:25:51.052 that very model that is 2016-08-06 15:25:51.067 that very model that is 2016-08-06 15:25:52.051 marginalizing them. 2016-08-06 15:25:52.067 marginalizing them. 2016-08-06 15:25:56.054 That is why I was political 2016-08-06 15:25:56.055 about Steppenwolf. 2016-08-06 15:25:56.069 That is why I was political 2016-08-06 15:25:56.071 about Steppenwolf. 2016-08-06 15:26:00.095 I think it is a great 2016-08-06 15:26:00.097 opportunity but I don't want to 2016-08-06 15:26:00.098 be a further demarcation. 2016-08-06 15:26:00.112 I think it is a great 2016-08-06 15:26:00.114 opportunity but I don't want to 2016-08-06 15:26:00.115 be a further demarcation. 2016-08-06 15:26:02.147 It is the same for other 2016-08-06 15:26:02.163 It is the same for other 2016-08-06 15:26:05.136 theaters and entities when they 2016-08-06 15:26:05.138 do the specialized things. 2016-08-06 15:26:05.152 theaters and entities when they 2016-08-06 15:26:05.154 do the specialized things. 2016-08-06 15:26:08.184 It is clear for me, are they 2016-08-06 15:26:08.199 It is clear for me, are they 2016-08-06 15:26:12.177 asking the artist, is the first 2016-08-06 15:26:12.179 voice perspective present? 2016-08-06 15:26:12.193 asking the artist, is the first 2016-08-06 15:26:12.194 voice perspective present? 2016-08-06 15:26:15.176 Not just at the table to be 2016-08-06 15:26:15.192 Not just at the table to be 2016-08-06 15:26:16.179 reinterpreted and not make a 2016-08-06 15:26:16.18 decision. 2016-08-06 15:26:16.194 reinterpreted and not make a 2016-08-06 15:26:16.195 decision. 2016-08-06 15:26:19.191 But are they all the way through 2016-08-06 15:26:19.206 But are they all the way through 2016-08-06 15:26:20.224 a part of the experience? 2016-08-06 15:26:20.239 a part of the experience? 2016-08-06 15:26:23.271 Are they helping to facilitate 2016-08-06 15:26:23.286 Are they helping to facilitate 2016-08-06 15:26:25.274 the manifestation, the 2016-08-06 15:26:25.29 the manifestation, the 2016-08-06 15:26:27.303 limitation, the administration, 2016-08-06 15:26:27.318 limitation, the administration, 2016-08-06 15:26:29.344 and the actualization of that 2016-08-06 15:26:29.359 and the actualization of that 2016-08-06 15:26:30.342 program? 2016-08-06 15:26:30.357 program? 2016-08-06 15:26:34.39 Christine: We have a question 2016-08-06 15:26:34.391 here. 2016-08-06 15:26:34.405 Christine: We have a question 2016-08-06 15:26:34.406 here. 2016-08-06 15:26:38.388 >> Arts and disability of 2016-08-06 15:26:38.389 Ireland. 2016-08-06 15:26:38.403 >> Arts and disability of 2016-08-06 15:26:38.404 Ireland. 2016-08-06 15:26:40.39 I was intrigued as I was 2016-08-06 15:26:40.406 I was intrigued as I was 2016-08-06 15:26:45.471 listening to you in the 2016-08-06 15:26:45.472 3Arts 2016-08-06 15:26:45.486 listening to you in the 2016-08-06 15:26:45.487 3Arts 2016-08-06 15:26:46.473 description of your residencies. 2016-08-06 15:26:46.488 description of your residencies. 2016-08-06 15:26:49.475 What really struck me was the 2016-08-06 15:26:49.49 What really struck me was the 2016-08-06 15:26:51.477 parallels between your 2016-08-06 15:26:51.479 residencies and our own. 2016-08-06 15:26:51.492 parallels between your 2016-08-06 15:26:51.494 residencies and our own. 2016-08-06 15:26:54.522 I think the one thing that 2016-08-06 15:26:54.538 I think the one thing that 2016-08-06 15:26:58.532 struck me was the issues you had 2016-08-06 15:26:58.548 struck me was the issues you had 2016-08-06 15:27:03.561 around actual 2016-08-06 15:27:03.562 access to the 2016-08-06 15:27:03.577 around actual 2016-08-06 15:27:03.578 access to the 2016-08-06 15:27:07.723 international residencies you 2016-08-06 15:27:07.725 had for other artists. 2016-08-06 15:27:07.738 international residencies you 2016-08-06 15:27:07.74 had for other artists. 2016-08-06 15:27:13.722 In Ireland, 2016-08-06 15:27:13.723 we have set up 2016-08-06 15:27:13.737 In Ireland, 2016-08-06 15:27:13.738 we have set up 2016-08-06 15:27:14.773 residencies. 2016-08-06 15:27:14.788 residencies. 2016-08-06 15:27:18.775 There are issues we have faced 2016-08-06 15:27:18.776 as have other international 2016-08-06 15:27:18.79 There are issues we have faced 2016-08-06 15:27:18.792 as have other international 2016-08-06 15:27:21.773 colleagues who work with artists 2016-08-06 15:27:21.774 with disabilities. 2016-08-06 15:27:21.788 colleagues who work with artists 2016-08-06 15:27:21.79 with disabilities. 2016-08-06 15:27:25.772 I suppose all I would say is 2016-08-06 15:27:25.788 I suppose all I would say is 2016-08-06 15:27:26.771 there are people like us out 2016-08-06 15:27:26.787 there are people like us out 2016-08-06 15:27:28.773 there who have had the same 2016-08-06 15:27:28.775 issues. 2016-08-06 15:27:28.789 there who have had the same 2016-08-06 15:27:28.79 issues. 2016-08-06 15:27:32.807 In other words, what I am saying 2016-08-06 15:27:32.809 is I think it is possible to 2016-08-06 15:27:32.822 In other words, what I am saying 2016-08-06 15:27:32.824 is I think it is possible to 2016-08-06 15:27:35.803 have international residencies 2016-08-06 15:27:35.819 have international residencies 2016-08-06 15:27:38.804 and maybe link in with people 2016-08-06 15:27:38.819 and maybe link in with people 2016-08-06 15:27:42.803 like ourselves and others 2016-08-06 15:27:42.818 like ourselves and others 2016-08-06 15:27:44.804 because the issues you had 2016-08-06 15:27:44.82 because the issues you had 2016-08-06 15:27:49.805 around access, and you have 2016-08-06 15:27:49.811 created a very successful 2016-08-06 15:27:49.82 around access, and you have 2016-08-06 15:27:49.822 created a very successful 2016-08-06 15:27:52.805 program in Chicago, we have had 2016-08-06 15:27:52.82 program in Chicago, we have had 2016-08-06 15:27:55.804 to deal with those issues in our 2016-08-06 15:27:55.819 to deal with those issues in our 2016-08-06 15:27:57.843 visual arts studio with the fire 2016-08-06 15:27:57.859 visual arts studio with the fire 2016-08-06 15:28:00.846 station artist studios in 2016-08-06 15:28:00.847 Dublin. 2016-08-06 15:28:00.861 station artist studios in 2016-08-06 15:28:00.862 Dublin. 2016-08-06 15:28:02.846 That would be only one example. 2016-08-06 15:28:02.861 That would be only one example. 2016-08-06 15:28:04.887 I would encourage you at some 2016-08-06 15:28:04.902 I would encourage you at some 2016-08-06 15:28:07.887 point to relook at the 2016-08-06 15:28:07.903 point to relook at the 2016-08-06 15:28:08.886 international using what you 2016-08-06 15:28:08.901 international using what you 2016-08-06 15:28:10.887 have learned from having to 2016-08-06 15:28:10.903 have learned from having to 2016-08-06 15:28:12.889 refocus on Chicago for those 2016-08-06 15:28:12.904 refocus on Chicago for those 2016-08-06 15:28:13.887 residencies to make them 2016-08-06 15:28:13.902 residencies to make them 2016-08-06 15:28:14.889 accessible. 2016-08-06 15:28:14.904 accessible. 2016-08-06 15:28:21.886 Esther: 2016-08-06 15:28:21.887 Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:28:21.889 I will be looking at Dublin. 2016-08-06 15:28:21.902 Esther: 2016-08-06 15:28:21.903 Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:28:21.904 I will be looking at Dublin. 2016-08-06 15:28:25.886 I want to say we kept all of our 2016-08-06 15:28:25.888 other residency programs their 2016-08-06 15:28:25.902 I want to say we kept all of our 2016-08-06 15:28:25.904 other residency programs their 2016-08-06 15:28:26.929 open to other artists. 2016-08-06 15:28:26.944 open to other artists. 2016-08-06 15:28:29.929 Some of you might know the 2016-08-06 15:28:29.944 Some of you might know the 2016-08-06 15:28:30.93 Jerome foundation in Minnesota. 2016-08-06 15:28:30.945 Jerome foundation in Minnesota. 2016-08-06 15:28:36.927 They have 2016-08-06 15:28:36.943 They have 2016-08-06 15:28:37.929 a foundation on the 2016-08-06 15:28:37.931 Mediterranean sea that is the 2016-08-06 15:28:37.933 residency program. 2016-08-06 15:28:37.945 a foundation on the 2016-08-06 15:28:37.947 Mediterranean sea that is the 2016-08-06 15:28:37.948 residency program. 2016-08-06 15:28:39.927 It is in a state from Jerome 2016-08-06 15:28:39.943 It is in a state from Jerome 2016-08-06 15:28:43.929 Hill -- it is an estate from 2016-08-06 15:28:43.93 Jerome Hill. 2016-08-06 15:28:43.944 Hill -- it is an estate from 2016-08-06 15:28:43.946 Jerome Hill. 2016-08-06 15:28:46.931 They are aiming to make it very 2016-08-06 15:28:46.937 accessible. 2016-08-06 15:28:46.947 They are aiming to make it very 2016-08-06 15:28:46.948 accessible. 2016-08-06 15:28:49.973 The truth is, the interior is. 2016-08-06 15:28:49.988 The truth is, the interior is. 2016-08-06 15:28:52.972 But if you want to go to the 2016-08-06 15:28:52.974 beach, you are dealing with 2016-08-06 15:28:52.987 But if you want to go to the 2016-08-06 15:28:52.989 beach, you are dealing with 2016-08-06 15:28:56.972 seriously rocky terrain to give 2016-08-06 15:28:56.973 an example. 2016-08-06 15:28:56.987 seriously rocky terrain to give 2016-08-06 15:28:56.989 an example. 2016-08-06 15:29:00.022 A mandate for 3Arts is we want 2016-08-06 15:29:00.037 A mandate for 3Arts is we want 2016-08-06 15:29:02.022 to pick our residencies based on 2016-08-06 15:29:02.024 the most accessible once we can 2016-08-06 15:29:02.038 to pick our residencies based on 2016-08-06 15:29:02.04 the most accessible once we can 2016-08-06 15:29:05.035 find and that welcome artists of 2016-08-06 15:29:05.05 find and that welcome artists of 2016-08-06 15:29:06.024 all the disciplines we support. 2016-08-06 15:29:06.039 all the disciplines we support. 2016-08-06 15:29:10.044 It is hard to find residencies 2016-08-06 15:29:10.046 that match both criteria. 2016-08-06 15:29:10.06 It is hard to find residencies 2016-08-06 15:29:10.062 that match both criteria. 2016-08-06 15:29:15.097 We stayed because they are 2016-08-06 15:29:15.112 We stayed because they are 2016-08-06 15:29:17.094 undergoing a plan right now to 2016-08-06 15:29:17.109 undergoing a plan right now to 2016-08-06 15:29:18.096 renovate that property and make 2016-08-06 15:29:18.111 renovate that property and make 2016-08-06 15:29:19.097 it fully accessible. 2016-08-06 15:29:19.112 it fully accessible. 2016-08-06 15:29:21.095 We are watching it. 2016-08-06 15:29:21.11 We are watching it. 2016-08-06 15:29:24.095 We all hope to have a site visit 2016-08-06 15:29:24.11 We all hope to have a site visit 2016-08-06 15:29:27.096 there to see if they have done 2016-08-06 15:29:27.097 it. 2016-08-06 15:29:27.111 there to see if they have done 2016-08-06 15:29:27.112 it. 2016-08-06 15:29:28.14 Thank you for that. 2016-08-06 15:29:28.155 Thank you for that. 2016-08-06 15:29:32.187 The residency Fellowship program 2016-08-06 15:29:32.203 The residency Fellowship program 2016-08-06 15:29:33.189 is one we are always too eager 2016-08-06 15:29:33.204 is one we are always too eager 2016-08-06 15:29:35.224 -- always eager to expand upon. 2016-08-06 15:29:35.239 -- always eager to expand upon. 2016-08-06 15:29:40.303 Christine: 2016-08-06 15:29:40.304 This has been a 2016-08-06 15:29:40.305 fantastic conversation. 2016-08-06 15:29:40.318 Christine: 2016-08-06 15:29:40.319 This has been a 2016-08-06 15:29:40.321 fantastic conversation. 2016-08-06 15:29:42.309 I want to take a moment to 2016-08-06 15:29:42.321 I want to take a moment to 2016-08-06 15:29:48.308 acknowledge the rock -- barak 2016-08-06 15:29:48.308 , 2016-08-06 15:29:48.31 especially your choice to open 2016-08-06 15:29:48.312 up your has been a real gift. 2016-08-06 15:29:48.323 acknowledge the rock -- barak 2016-08-06 15:29:48.323 , 2016-08-06 15:29:48.325 especially your choice to open 2016-08-06 15:29:48.327 up your has been a real gift. 2016-08-06 15:29:52.347 If there is anything else you 2016-08-06 15:29:52.349 want to share, please take a 2016-08-06 15:29:52.35 moment. 2016-08-06 15:29:52.362 If there is anything else you 2016-08-06 15:29:52.364 want to share, please take a 2016-08-06 15:29:52.365 moment. 2016-08-06 15:29:54.388 Barak: Is there anything else I 2016-08-06 15:29:54.404 Barak: Is there anything else I 2016-08-06 15:29:55.388 want to share? 2016-08-06 15:29:55.403 want to share? 2016-08-06 15:29:58.4 I want to acknowledge the fact 2016-08-06 15:29:58.415 I want to acknowledge the fact 2016-08-06 15:30:04.595 that I appreciate that lead 2016-08-06 15:30:04.61 that I appreciate that lead 2016-08-06 15:30:06.647 made H was to integrate 2016-08-06 15:30:06.662 made H was to integrate 2016-08-06 15:30:09.681 performance into the work. 2016-08-06 15:30:09.682 That was a satisfying 2016-08-06 15:30:09.683 opportunity. 2016-08-06 15:30:09.696 performance into the work. 2016-08-06 15:30:09.698 That was a satisfying 2016-08-06 15:30:09.699 opportunity. 2016-08-06 15:30:11.68 I'm glad it does because we 2016-08-06 15:30:11.696 I'm glad it does because we 2016-08-06 15:30:19.782 place 2016-08-06 15:30:19.784 them -- the conversation 2016-08-06 15:30:19.785 shifts and there are other 2016-08-06 15:30:19.786 opportunities. 2016-08-06 15:30:19.797 place 2016-08-06 15:30:19.799 them -- the conversation 2016-08-06 15:30:19.8 shifts and there are other 2016-08-06 15:30:19.802 opportunities. 2016-08-06 15:30:21.806 I want to acknowledge that. 2016-08-06 15:30:21.821 I want to acknowledge that. 2016-08-06 15:30:24.849 I also want to acknowledge in my 2016-08-06 15:30:24.864 I also want to acknowledge in my 2016-08-06 15:30:25.897 own speaking about disability to 2016-08-06 15:30:25.913 own speaking about disability to 2016-08-06 15:30:28.977 recognize it is what is read as 2016-08-06 15:30:28.993 recognize it is what is read as 2016-08-06 15:30:30.982 disabled and also what is 2016-08-06 15:30:30.983 invisible. 2016-08-06 15:30:30.997 disabled and also what is 2016-08-06 15:30:30.999 invisible. 2016-08-06 15:30:33.031 And to recognize within my own 2016-08-06 15:30:33.046 And to recognize within my own 2016-08-06 15:30:37.075 that we make no assumptions when 2016-08-06 15:30:37.077 an artist says they have a 2016-08-06 15:30:37.091 that we make no assumptions when 2016-08-06 15:30:37.092 an artist says they have a 2016-08-06 15:30:38.103 disability what that is. 2016-08-06 15:30:38.115 disability what that is. 2016-08-06 15:30:42.188 It becomes a bit of a guessing 2016-08-06 15:30:42.203 It becomes a bit of a guessing 2016-08-06 15:30:46.274 game I know. 2016-08-06 15:30:46.289 game I know. 2016-08-06 15:30:50.313 Sometimes the most brilliant 2016-08-06 15:30:50.328 Sometimes the most brilliant 2016-08-06 15:30:54.387 folk I know deeply engaged in 2016-08-06 15:30:54.402 folk I know deeply engaged in 2016-08-06 15:30:55.387 the artform and supporting arts 2016-08-06 15:30:55.402 the artform and supporting arts 2016-08-06 15:30:57.388 have asked me questions they 2016-08-06 15:30:57.404 have asked me questions they 2016-08-06 15:31:01.387 would not ask of me if I removed 2016-08-06 15:31:01.403 would not ask of me if I removed 2016-08-06 15:31:04.388 disability and put blackness. 2016-08-06 15:31:04.403 disability and put blackness. 2016-08-06 15:31:07.387 How long have you been black? 2016-08-06 15:31:07.403 How long have you been black? 2016-08-06 15:31:10.388 >> [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 15:31:10.403 >> [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 15:31:12.392 Barak: Can you talk about your 2016-08-06 15:31:12.406 Barak: Can you talk about your 2016-08-06 15:31:14.387 blackness or gender? 2016-08-06 15:31:14.403 blackness or gender? 2016-08-06 15:31:17.39 I say that not to say we cannot 2016-08-06 15:31:17.406 I say that not to say we cannot 2016-08-06 15:31:19.388 be vulnerable and transparent in 2016-08-06 15:31:19.404 be vulnerable and transparent in 2016-08-06 15:31:20.387 our experiences. 2016-08-06 15:31:20.403 our experiences. 2016-08-06 15:31:25.386 But the notion of note 2016-08-06 15:31:25.402 But the notion of note 2016-08-06 15:31:29.39 assumptions -- no assumptions, 2016-08-06 15:31:29.392 the notion of asking the 2016-08-06 15:31:29.406 assumptions -- no assumptions, 2016-08-06 15:31:29.407 the notion of asking the 2016-08-06 15:31:30.391 questions and supporting an 2016-08-06 15:31:30.407 questions and supporting an 2016-08-06 15:31:31.398 environment that allows for that 2016-08-06 15:31:31.413 environment that allows for that 2016-08-06 15:31:33.432 to happen is what I am looking 2016-08-06 15:31:33.433 for. 2016-08-06 15:31:33.447 to happen is what I am looking 2016-08-06 15:31:33.448 for. 2016-08-06 15:31:37.435 There are multiple people who 2016-08-06 15:31:37.451 There are multiple people who 2016-08-06 15:31:39.438 have visible and invisible 2016-08-06 15:31:39.453 have visible and invisible 2016-08-06 15:31:41.606 disabilities that I want to also 2016-08-06 15:31:41.621 disabilities that I want to also 2016-08-06 15:31:44.476 support and firm them. 2016-08-06 15:31:44.491 support and firm them. 2016-08-06 15:31:48.572 The last thing is there has been 2016-08-06 15:31:48.587 The last thing is there has been 2016-08-06 15:31:50.598 a challenge. 2016-08-06 15:31:50.613 a challenge. 2016-08-06 15:31:53.639 One of the things that happened 2016-08-06 15:31:53.654 One of the things that happened 2016-08-06 15:31:56.721 is it can take so much effort. 2016-08-06 15:31:56.736 is it can take so much effort. 2016-08-06 15:31:59.723 Sometimes more effort to get 2016-08-06 15:31:59.739 Sometimes more effort to get 2016-08-06 15:32:01.723 work on the stage than to 2016-08-06 15:32:01.739 work on the stage than to 2016-08-06 15:32:02.721 actually do the work. 2016-08-06 15:32:02.736 actually do the work. 2016-08-06 15:32:05.722 That means for me the rigor of 2016-08-06 15:32:05.737 That means for me the rigor of 2016-08-06 15:32:11.72 the production process 2016-08-06 15:32:11.721 that 2016-08-06 15:32:11.735 the production process 2016-08-06 15:32:11.736 that 2016-08-06 15:32:12.722 happens sometimes as an artist 2016-08-06 15:32:12.738 happens sometimes as an artist 2016-08-06 15:32:14.772 that does not just have a 2016-08-06 15:32:14.774 physical disability but the 2016-08-06 15:32:14.787 that does not just have a 2016-08-06 15:32:14.789 physical disability but the 2016-08-06 15:32:15.776 mental one, the mental dexterity 2016-08-06 15:32:15.791 mental one, the mental dexterity 2016-08-06 15:32:18.821 that is asked, the rigor of 2016-08-06 15:32:18.837 that is asked, the rigor of 2016-08-06 15:32:21.89 trying to make sure even a tech 2016-08-06 15:32:21.891 -- 2016-08-06 15:32:21.905 trying to make sure even a tech 2016-08-06 15:32:21.906 -- 2016-08-06 15:32:24.931 Esther: That is a very good 2016-08-06 15:32:24.932 point. 2016-08-06 15:32:24.946 Esther: That is a very good 2016-08-06 15:32:24.948 point. 2016-08-06 15:32:26.932 Barak: We should never take for 2016-08-06 15:32:26.947 Barak: We should never take for 2016-08-06 15:32:29.932 granted or assume the notion 2016-08-06 15:32:29.933 that what it takes to get the 59 2016-08-06 15:32:29.948 granted or assume the notion 2016-08-06 15:32:29.95 that what it takes to get the 59 2016-08-06 15:32:34.97 e-mails to the 2016-08-06 15:32:34.986 e-mails to the 2016-08-06 15:32:35.97 tech, if all 2016-08-06 15:32:35.986 tech, if all 2016-08-06 15:32:36.975 those things come through the 2016-08-06 15:32:36.99 those things come through the 2016-08-06 15:32:38.974 lens of disability or 2016-08-06 15:32:38.99 lens of disability or 2016-08-06 15:32:42.022 opportunity for that shifts. 2016-08-06 15:32:42.038 opportunity for that shifts. 2016-08-06 15:32:46.071 I understand the physical costs 2016-08-06 15:32:46.086 I understand the physical costs 2016-08-06 15:32:49.072 to my body every time I have to 2016-08-06 15:32:49.088 to my body every time I have to 2016-08-06 15:32:52.097 enter into that place and 2016-08-06 15:32:52.098 moment. 2016-08-06 15:32:52.112 enter into that place and 2016-08-06 15:32:52.113 moment. 2016-08-06 15:32:56.102 This is where I asked for nuance 2016-08-06 15:32:56.104 and working towards nuance. 2016-08-06 15:32:56.113 This is where I asked for nuance 2016-08-06 15:32:56.115 and working towards nuance. 2016-08-06 15:33:00.097 We begin to think every step of 2016-08-06 15:33:00.112 We begin to think every step of 2016-08-06 15:33:01.139 the way, how can we plan and 2016-08-06 15:33:01.14 support? 2016-08-06 15:33:01.154 the way, how can we plan and 2016-08-06 15:33:01.156 support? 2016-08-06 15:33:04.18 What questions do we need to 2016-08-06 15:33:04.181 ask? 2016-08-06 15:33:04.195 What questions do we need to 2016-08-06 15:33:04.197 ask? 2016-08-06 15:33:06.227 What ways can we map the space? 2016-08-06 15:33:06.243 What ways can we map the space? 2016-08-06 15:33:08.235 Do I know where the bathroom is? 2016-08-06 15:33:08.25 Do I know where the bathroom is? 2016-08-06 15:33:10.222 Do I know what level it is on? 2016-08-06 15:33:10.237 Do I know what level it is on? 2016-08-06 15:33:13.226 That is what I do every time I 2016-08-06 15:33:13.241 That is what I do every time I 2016-08-06 15:33:14.268 walk into a space. 2016-08-06 15:33:14.284 walk into a space. 2016-08-06 15:33:18.273 I'm constantly, it is going to 2016-08-06 15:33:18.288 I'm constantly, it is going to 2016-08-06 15:33:21.324 take me how many spoons I have 2016-08-06 15:33:21.339 take me how many spoons I have 2016-08-06 15:33:22.329 left today. 2016-08-06 15:33:22.345 left today. 2016-08-06 15:33:25.326 You all know the spoon theory. 2016-08-06 15:33:25.328 Look it up. 2016-08-06 15:33:25.341 You all know the spoon theory. 2016-08-06 15:33:25.343 Look it up. 2016-08-06 15:33:29.349 Begin to understand that. 2016-08-06 15:33:29.351 Don't take anything for granted. 2016-08-06 15:33:29.365 Begin to understand that. 2016-08-06 15:33:29.367 Don't take anything for granted. 2016-08-06 15:33:31.389 Make those things visible. 2016-08-06 15:33:31.405 Make those things visible. 2016-08-06 15:33:35.392 How vulnerable can we both be 2016-08-06 15:33:35.394 and how can we deepen the 2016-08-06 15:33:35.395 relationship? 2016-08-06 15:33:35.408 How vulnerable can we both be 2016-08-06 15:33:35.41 and how can we deepen the 2016-08-06 15:33:35.411 relationship? 2016-08-06 15:33:39.389 That is what I am in support of, 2016-08-06 15:33:39.405 That is what I am in support of, 2016-08-06 15:33:41.39 the beauty and intimacy of 2016-08-06 15:33:41.391 cultivating relationships. 2016-08-06 15:33:41.405 the beauty and intimacy of 2016-08-06 15:33:41.407 cultivating relationships. 2016-08-06 15:33:46.391 Esther: I would add to that and 2016-08-06 15:33:46.393 say understand that for a lot of 2016-08-06 15:33:46.41 Esther: I would add to that and 2016-08-06 15:33:46.413 say understand that for a lot of 2016-08-06 15:33:47.391 people with disabilities that 2016-08-06 15:33:47.407 people with disabilities that 2016-08-06 15:33:50.389 process begins the moment we 2016-08-06 15:33:50.405 process begins the moment we 2016-08-06 15:33:51.39 wake up in the morning. 2016-08-06 15:33:51.405 wake up in the morning. 2016-08-06 15:33:53.391 It does not just happen when we 2016-08-06 15:33:53.406 It does not just happen when we 2016-08-06 15:33:55.391 are entering your spaces. 2016-08-06 15:33:55.406 are entering your spaces. 2016-08-06 15:34:05.39 It happens 2016-08-06 15:34:05.405 It happens 2016-08-06 15:34:05.473 when we are 2016-08-06 15:34:05.475 navigating through our living 2016-08-06 15:34:05.476 spaces. 2016-08-06 15:34:05.489 when we are 2016-08-06 15:34:05.491 navigating through our living 2016-08-06 15:34:05.492 spaces. 2016-08-06 15:34:08.474 It happens when we are on our 2016-08-06 15:34:08.475 way to your spaces. 2016-08-06 15:34:08.489 It happens when we are on our 2016-08-06 15:34:08.491 way to your spaces. 2016-08-06 15:34:12.474 Often by the time we get to the 2016-08-06 15:34:12.475 rehearsal space, there have been 2016-08-06 15:34:12.489 Often by the time we get to the 2016-08-06 15:34:12.491 rehearsal space, there have been 2016-08-06 15:34:15.473 15 things that have happened 2016-08-06 15:34:15.488 15 things that have happened 2016-08-06 15:34:18.473 that have been in danger of 2016-08-06 15:34:18.488 that have been in danger of 2016-08-06 15:34:20.473 preventing us from getting to 2016-08-06 15:34:20.475 the rehearsal space. 2016-08-06 15:34:20.489 preventing us from getting to 2016-08-06 15:34:20.491 the rehearsal space. 2016-08-06 15:34:23.475 Just be mindful of the fact that 2016-08-06 15:34:23.491 Just be mindful of the fact that 2016-08-06 15:34:26.521 all of those things contribute 2016-08-06 15:34:26.537 all of those things contribute 2016-08-06 15:34:28.52 to how many spoons we have left 2016-08-06 15:34:28.522 during the day. 2016-08-06 15:34:28.523 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 15:34:28.536 to how many spoons we have left 2016-08-06 15:34:28.537 during the day. 2016-08-06 15:34:28.538 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 15:34:33.572 Christine: 2016-08-06 15:34:33.573 Thank you guys so 2016-08-06 15:34:33.588 Christine: 2016-08-06 15:34:33.589 Thank you guys so 2016-08-06 15:34:34.597 much. 2016-08-06 15:34:34.612 much. 2016-08-06 15:34:36.598 Esther: Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:34:36.614 Esther: Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:34:38.64 Barak: Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:34:38.641 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 15:34:38.655 Barak: Thank you. 2016-08-06 15:34:38.657 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 15:34:43.649 Christine: 15 2016-08-06 15:34:43.65 minutes. 2016-08-06 15:34:43.665 Christine: 15 2016-08-06 15:34:43.666 minutes. 2016-08-06 15:34:45.683 And I would love to pick up some 2016-08-06 15:34:45.699 And I would love to pick up some 2016-08-06 15:34:49.77 post-it notes. 2016-08-06 15:34:49.786 post-it notes. 2016-08-06 15:42:55.068 >> Hello, hello to check, check. 2016-08-06 15:42:55.085 >> Hello, hello to check, check. 2016-08-06 15:43:11.273 >> Check. 2016-08-06 15:43:11.288 >> Check. 2016-08-06 15:51:14.118 >> I think we are going to start 2016-08-06 15:51:14.134 >> I think we are going to start 2016-08-06 15:51:15.117 gathering back for final 2016-08-06 15:51:15.118 interview. 2016-08-06 15:51:15.133 gathering back for final 2016-08-06 15:51:15.135 interview. 2016-08-06 15:51:23.194 Sorry, guys. 2016-08-06 15:51:23.21 Sorry, guys. 2016-08-06 15:51:27.333 My name is David Harrell. 2016-08-06 15:51:27.349 My name is David Harrell. 2016-08-06 15:51:32.449 I am an actor as 2016-08-06 15:51:32.45 well as the 2016-08-06 15:51:32.452 disability and programming 2016-08-06 15:51:32.454 associate for inclusion in the 2016-08-06 15:51:32.466 I am an actor as 2016-08-06 15:51:32.467 well as the 2016-08-06 15:51:32.468 disability and programming 2016-08-06 15:51:32.47 associate for inclusion in the 2016-08-06 15:51:33.452 arts in New York City. 2016-08-06 15:51:33.469 arts in New York City. 2016-08-06 15:51:43.577 I'm joined by Julie Baker and 2016-08-06 15:51:43.594 I'm joined by Julie Baker and 2016-08-06 15:51:47.652 Vanya from a local the other 2016-08-06 15:51:47.669 Vanya from a local the other 2016-08-06 15:51:48.651 company in Pittsburgh, Bricolage 2016-08-06 15:51:48.652 . 2016-08-06 15:51:48.667 company in Pittsburgh, Bricolage 2016-08-06 15:51:48.668 . 2016-08-06 15:51:51.669 We wanted to bring in a variety 2016-08-06 15:51:51.686 We wanted to bring in a variety 2016-08-06 15:51:55.739 of different theater companies 2016-08-06 15:51:55.741 that are working in an inclusive 2016-08-06 15:51:55.756 of different theater companies 2016-08-06 15:51:55.757 that are working in an inclusive 2016-08-06 15:52:00.904 way and talk about 2016-08-06 15:52:00.905 an experience 2016-08-06 15:52:00.92 way and talk about 2016-08-06 15:52:00.921 an experience 2016-08-06 15:52:04.959 each individual organization 2016-08-06 15:52:04.961 would have because there are a 2016-08-06 15:52:04.975 each individual organization 2016-08-06 15:52:04.979 would have because there are a 2016-08-06 15:52:05.992 variety of different challenges 2016-08-06 15:52:06.008 variety of different challenges 2016-08-06 15:52:09.069 that different size 2016-08-06 15:52:09.075 organizations will come into. 2016-08-06 15:52:09.086 that different size 2016-08-06 15:52:09.087 organizations will come into. 2016-08-06 15:52:13.07 I want to have Julie -- 2016-08-06 15:52:13.086 I want to have Julie -- 2016-08-06 15:52:16.071 Oh, it is Jackie. 2016-08-06 15:52:16.087 Oh, it is Jackie. 2016-08-06 15:52:20.122 >> It puts me at ease that he 2016-08-06 15:52:20.124 makes the first mistake, so I am 2016-08-06 15:52:20.125 thrilled. 2016-08-06 15:52:20.138 >> It puts me at ease that he 2016-08-06 15:52:20.14 makes the first mistake, so I am 2016-08-06 15:52:20.141 thrilled. 2016-08-06 15:52:22.116 David: Awesome. 2016-08-06 15:52:22.132 David: Awesome. 2016-08-06 15:52:26.154 In the break, I was going to the 2016-08-06 15:52:26.17 In the break, I was going to the 2016-08-06 15:52:28.197 bathroom and was like it is 2016-08-06 15:52:28.199 Jackie. 2016-08-06 15:52:28.2 Not Julie. 2016-08-06 15:52:28.214 bathroom and was like it is 2016-08-06 15:52:28.215 Jackie. 2016-08-06 15:52:28.216 Not Julie. 2016-08-06 15:52:30.242 And then I said it is Julie. 2016-08-06 15:52:30.258 And then I said it is Julie. 2016-08-06 15:52:34.319 I would like Jackie to talk us 2016-08-06 15:52:34.335 I would like Jackie to talk us 2016-08-06 15:52:37.316 through a little bit about 2016-08-06 15:52:37.332 through a little bit about 2016-08-06 15:52:41.33 Bricolage and who they are and 2016-08-06 15:52:41.347 Bricolage and who they are and 2016-08-06 15:52:42.318 talk a little bit about the type 2016-08-06 15:52:42.334 talk a little bit about the type 2016-08-06 15:52:45.371 of work they do which is 2016-08-06 15:52:45.373 immersive theater, which is a 2016-08-06 15:52:45.374 little bit different. 2016-08-06 15:52:45.388 of work they do which is 2016-08-06 15:52:45.39 immersive theater, which is a 2016-08-06 15:52:45.391 little bit different. 2016-08-06 15:52:49.368 For our audience here and on the 2016-08-06 15:52:49.384 For our audience here and on the 2016-08-06 15:52:52.374 Livestream, to get a better 2016-08-06 15:52:52.376 understanding of what type of 2016-08-06 15:52:52.377 theater they do. 2016-08-06 15:52:52.391 Livestream, to get a better 2016-08-06 15:52:52.392 understanding of what type of 2016-08-06 15:52:52.394 theater they do. 2016-08-06 15:52:54.424 >> Hello. 2016-08-06 15:52:54.44 >> Hello. 2016-08-06 15:52:58.441 I am the general manager at 2016-08-06 15:52:58.457 I am the general manager at 2016-08-06 15:53:00.442 Bricolage production company. 2016-08-06 15:53:00.459 Bricolage production company. 2016-08-06 15:53:03.443 Our office and main theater is 2016-08-06 15:53:03.445 down the street on liberty 2016-08-06 15:53:03.446 Avenue. 2016-08-06 15:53:03.462 Our office and main theater is 2016-08-06 15:53:03.466 down the street on liberty 2016-08-06 15:53:03.467 Avenue. 2016-08-06 15:53:07.485 We do a lot of work outside of 2016-08-06 15:53:07.487 our theater. 2016-08-06 15:53:07.502 We do a lot of work outside of 2016-08-06 15:53:07.503 our theater. 2016-08-06 15:53:08.485 We do site-specific pieces. 2016-08-06 15:53:08.501 We do site-specific pieces. 2016-08-06 15:53:11.534 We do work that puts the 2016-08-06 15:53:11.535 audience at the center of the 2016-08-06 15:53:11.537 narrative. 2016-08-06 15:53:11.55 We do work that puts the 2016-08-06 15:53:11.552 audience at the center of the 2016-08-06 15:53:11.553 narrative. 2016-08-06 15:53:13.585 That ranges across our programs. 2016-08-06 15:53:13.601 That ranges across our programs. 2016-08-06 15:53:16.667 We have become most recognized 2016-08-06 15:53:16.669 for our immersive work. 2016-08-06 15:53:16.683 We have become most recognized 2016-08-06 15:53:16.685 for our immersive work. 2016-08-06 15:53:21.838 Immersive theater 2016-08-06 15:53:21.839 , for anyone 2016-08-06 15:53:21.854 Immersive theater 2016-08-06 15:53:21.855 , for anyone 2016-08-06 15:53:22.825 who does not know, is a 2016-08-06 15:53:22.827 different kind of theater. 2016-08-06 15:53:22.841 who does not know, is a 2016-08-06 15:53:22.843 different kind of theater. 2016-08-06 15:53:25.908 Instead of creating an 2016-08-06 15:53:25.924 Instead of creating an 2016-08-06 15:53:26.875 environment on the stage and 2016-08-06 15:53:26.876 having watched a show with actor 2016-08-06 15:53:26.891 environment on the stage and 2016-08-06 15:53:26.893 having watched a show with actor 2016-08-06 15:53:30.943 s, we will create an 2016-08-06 15:53:30.959 s, we will create an 2016-08-06 15:53:35.988 environment and put the audience 2016-08-06 15:53:35.99 inside it with a role in the 2016-08-06 15:53:35.991 show. 2016-08-06 15:53:36.004 environment and put the audience 2016-08-06 15:53:36.006 inside it with a role in the 2016-08-06 15:53:36.007 show. 2016-08-06 15:53:37.988 The result is often 2016-08-06 15:53:37.99 cite-specific. 2016-08-06 15:53:38.004 The result is often 2016-08-06 15:53:38.006 cite-specific. 2016-08-06 15:53:41.027 It is often a moving piece. 2016-08-06 15:53:41.043 It is often a moving piece. 2016-08-06 15:53:44.028 There are usually varying 2016-08-06 15:53:44.044 There are usually varying 2016-08-06 15:53:48.073 degrees of audience agency where 2016-08-06 15:53:48.074 you get to have control and go 2016-08-06 15:53:48.088 degrees of audience agency where 2016-08-06 15:53:48.09 you get to have control and go 2016-08-06 15:53:50.069 where you want and look at the 2016-08-06 15:53:50.071 things you want to look at. 2016-08-06 15:53:50.085 where you want and look at the 2016-08-06 15:53:50.087 things you want to look at. 2016-08-06 15:53:52.069 David: Great. 2016-08-06 15:53:52.085 David: Great. 2016-08-06 15:53:55.068 Specifically for today's 2016-08-06 15:53:55.085 Specifically for today's 2016-08-06 15:53:59.068 discussion, we are going to lead 2016-08-06 15:53:59.07 into talking about a specific 2016-08-06 15:53:59.084 discussion, we are going to lead 2016-08-06 15:53:59.086 into talking about a specific 2016-08-06 15:54:05.117 performance, "Where is He 2016-08-06 15:54:05.117 re." 2016-08-06 15:54:05.133 performance, "Where is He 2016-08-06 15:54:05.134 re." 2016-08-06 15:54:07.195 I would like you to talk about 2016-08-06 15:54:07.211 I would like you to talk about 2016-08-06 15:54:10.192 the journey Bricolage had to get 2016-08-06 15:54:10.194 to that production. 2016-08-06 15:54:10.209 the journey Bricolage had to get 2016-08-06 15:54:10.21 to that production. 2016-08-06 15:54:16.247 It was sort of this journey of 2016-08-06 15:54:16.263 It was sort of this journey of 2016-08-06 15:54:21.328 lessons learned 2016-08-06 15:54:21.329 that led to the 2016-08-06 15:54:21.331 combination of that project. 2016-08-06 15:54:21.344 lessons learned 2016-08-06 15:54:21.345 that led to the 2016-08-06 15:54:21.347 combination of that project. 2016-08-06 15:54:23.401 If you could talk a little bit 2016-08-06 15:54:23.418 If you could talk a little bit 2016-08-06 15:54:25.454 about the journey getting there 2016-08-06 15:54:25.47 about the journey getting there 2016-08-06 15:54:30.498 and more specific about 2016-08-06 15:54:30.499 how that 2016-08-06 15:54:30.5 specific production came about. 2016-08-06 15:54:30.517 and more specific about 2016-08-06 15:54:30.518 how that 2016-08-06 15:54:30.52 specific production came about. 2016-08-06 15:54:34.527 >> We did our first large-scale 2016-08-06 15:54:34.543 >> We did our first large-scale 2016-08-06 15:54:39.526 immersive in 2012 called "Strat 2016-08-06 15:54:39.527 a." 2016-08-06 15:54:39.543 immersive in 2012 called "Strat 2016-08-06 15:54:39.544 a." 2016-08-06 15:54:42.527 We did not start working with 2016-08-06 15:54:42.544 We did not start working with 2016-08-06 15:54:43.528 artists with disabilities in a 2016-08-06 15:54:43.545 artists with disabilities in a 2016-08-06 15:54:45.527 meaningful way until 2014. 2016-08-06 15:54:45.543 meaningful way until 2014. 2016-08-06 15:54:49.53 At that time, the Pittsburgh 2016-08-06 15:54:49.532 cultural trust gave our artistic 2016-08-06 15:54:49.547 At that time, the Pittsburgh 2016-08-06 15:54:49.548 cultural trust gave our artistic 2016-08-06 15:54:51.568 director a visionary artist 2016-08-06 15:54:51.584 director a visionary artist 2016-08-06 15:54:54.572 award and asked him to create a 2016-08-06 15:54:54.588 award and asked him to create a 2016-08-06 15:54:56.628 piece to coincide with the three 2016-08-06 15:54:56.644 piece to coincide with the three 2016-08-06 15:54:58.669 Rivers are festival downtown. 2016-08-06 15:54:58.685 Rivers are festival downtown. 2016-08-06 15:55:03.744 The team got together and 2016-08-06 15:55:03.758 The team got together and 2016-08-06 15:55:05.786 started to explore the visual 2016-08-06 15:55:05.803 started to explore the visual 2016-08-06 15:55:06.83 arts Festival in the challenge 2016-08-06 15:55:06.846 arts Festival in the challenge 2016-08-06 15:55:08.926 and artist creates in looking at 2016-08-06 15:55:08.942 and artist creates in looking at 2016-08-06 15:55:09.947 a blank canvas. 2016-08-06 15:55:09.963 a blank canvas. 2016-08-06 15:55:14.03 From that discussion, it moved 2016-08-06 15:55:14.046 From that discussion, it moved 2016-08-06 15:55:16.039 on to the journey of the 2016-08-06 15:55:16.055 on to the journey of the 2016-08-06 15:55:19.07 attendee who is blind and the 2016-08-06 15:55:19.086 attendee who is blind and the 2016-08-06 15:55:21.077 assumptions a visual arts 2016-08-06 15:55:21.093 assumptions a visual arts 2016-08-06 15:55:23.172 Festival makes of the general 2016-08-06 15:55:23.174 audience member. 2016-08-06 15:55:23.189 Festival makes of the general 2016-08-06 15:55:23.19 audience member. 2016-08-06 15:55:26.206 That led to an interview with a 2016-08-06 15:55:26.223 That led to an interview with a 2016-08-06 15:55:30.282 woman who told us about her 2016-08-06 15:55:30.283 experience with blindness. 2016-08-06 15:55:30.298 woman who told us about her 2016-08-06 15:55:30.299 experience with blindness. 2016-08-06 15:55:33.327 She lost her sight throughout 2016-08-06 15:55:33.328 her life. 2016-08-06 15:55:33.343 She lost her sight throughout 2016-08-06 15:55:33.345 her life. 2016-08-06 15:55:35.418 She was not born blind. 2016-08-06 15:55:35.434 She was not born blind. 2016-08-06 15:55:39.453 It was born out of the artist 2016-08-06 15:55:39.47 It was born out of the artist 2016-08-06 15:55:40.496 interview. 2016-08-06 15:55:40.512 interview. 2016-08-06 15:55:42.538 She was cast as the lead in the 2016-08-06 15:55:42.539 show. 2016-08-06 15:55:42.554 She was cast as the lead in the 2016-08-06 15:55:42.555 show. 2016-08-06 15:55:46.58 We contrasted her role with 2016-08-06 15:55:46.581 someone else who was born blind. 2016-08-06 15:55:46.596 We contrasted her role with 2016-08-06 15:55:46.598 someone else who was born blind. 2016-08-06 15:55:48.637 That was in the context of the 2016-08-06 15:55:48.638 show. 2016-08-06 15:55:48.654 That was in the context of the 2016-08-06 15:55:48.655 show. 2016-08-06 15:55:51.681 You did not just get one 2016-08-06 15:55:51.682 narrative about blindness. 2016-08-06 15:55:51.697 You did not just get one 2016-08-06 15:55:51.699 narrative about blindness. 2016-08-06 15:55:54.695 We were invited in 2015 to take 2016-08-06 15:55:54.711 We were invited in 2015 to take 2016-08-06 15:55:57.694 it to La Jolla Playhouse. 2016-08-06 15:55:57.71 it to La Jolla Playhouse. 2016-08-06 15:56:00.7 We brought Ann with us to do her 2016-08-06 15:56:00.712 We brought Ann with us to do her 2016-08-06 15:56:01.695 role again. 2016-08-06 15:56:01.711 role again. 2016-08-06 15:56:04.736 We made some edits based on her 2016-08-06 15:56:04.753 We made some edits based on her 2016-08-06 15:56:05.736 feedback and recast the other 2016-08-06 15:56:05.753 feedback and recast the other 2016-08-06 15:56:08.779 role to be someone who was a 2016-08-06 15:56:08.795 role to be someone who was a 2016-08-06 15:56:09.781 local actor in California who 2016-08-06 15:56:09.782 was also born blind. 2016-08-06 15:56:09.797 local actor in California who 2016-08-06 15:56:09.798 was also born blind. 2016-08-06 15:56:12.819 We rewrote the role to be 2016-08-06 15:56:12.821 specific to him. 2016-08-06 15:56:12.836 We rewrote the role to be 2016-08-06 15:56:12.837 specific to him. 2016-08-06 15:56:16.819 That was our first two ventures 2016-08-06 15:56:16.835 That was our first two ventures 2016-08-06 15:56:17.821 working with artists with 2016-08-06 15:56:17.837 working with artists with 2016-08-06 15:56:18.821 disabilities at the core of the 2016-08-06 15:56:18.838 disabilities at the core of the 2016-08-06 15:56:21.82 creation and inviting them to be 2016-08-06 15:56:21.836 creation and inviting them to be 2016-08-06 15:56:23.82 on the creative team and tell us 2016-08-06 15:56:23.821 what to do. 2016-08-06 15:56:23.836 on the creative team and tell us 2016-08-06 15:56:23.837 what to do. 2016-08-06 15:56:27.819 In 2015, we also did a 2016-08-06 15:56:27.836 In 2015, we also did a 2016-08-06 15:56:29.82 large-scale immersive. 2016-08-06 15:56:29.837 large-scale immersive. 2016-08-06 15:56:33.824 It was, for us, I think stuck 2016-08-06 15:56:33.841 It was, for us, I think stuck 2016-08-06 15:56:34.864 out as a catalyst for us. 2016-08-06 15:56:34.88 out as a catalyst for us. 2016-08-06 15:56:39.874 Learning and failure 2016-08-06 15:56:39.875 and being 2016-08-06 15:56:39.876 intentional about this work. 2016-08-06 15:56:39.891 Learning and failure 2016-08-06 15:56:39.892 and being 2016-08-06 15:56:39.893 intentional about this work. 2016-08-06 15:56:43.995 It was a part bus, part walking 2016-08-06 15:56:44.011 It was a part bus, part walking 2016-08-06 15:56:46.038 tour that took place about 45 2016-08-06 15:56:46.039 minutes away. 2016-08-06 15:56:46.054 tour that took place about 45 2016-08-06 15:56:46.055 minutes away. 2016-08-06 15:56:51.07 I was caught 2016-08-06 15:56:51.071 between two worlds. 2016-08-06 15:56:51.086 I was caught 2016-08-06 15:56:51.087 between two worlds. 2016-08-06 15:56:55.173 I was told from an artistic 2016-08-06 15:56:55.175 perspective we could not book a 2016-08-06 15:56:55.189 I was told from an artistic 2016-08-06 15:56:55.196 perspective we could not book a 2016-08-06 15:57:04.243 charter bus for the show 2016-08-06 15:57:04.244 because 2016-08-06 15:57:04.259 charter bus for the show 2016-08-06 15:57:04.26 because 2016-08-06 15:57:06.243 a big, expensive charter bus 2016-08-06 15:57:06.244 going through a blighted 2016-08-06 15:57:06.259 a big, expensive charter bus 2016-08-06 15:57:06.26 going through a blighted 2016-08-06 15:57:08.277 neighborhood was not what we 2016-08-06 15:57:08.294 neighborhood was not what we 2016-08-06 15:57:10.323 were looking for. 2016-08-06 15:57:10.341 were looking for. 2016-08-06 15:57:11.324 I needed to find a school bus. 2016-08-06 15:57:11.326 I could not find a school bus 2016-08-06 15:57:11.341 I needed to find a school bus. 2016-08-06 15:57:11.343 I could not find a school bus 2016-08-06 15:57:13.329 that was 88 accessible. 2016-08-06 15:57:13.345 that was 88 accessible. 2016-08-06 15:57:16.372 We found ourselves in a 2016-08-06 15:57:16.388 We found ourselves in a 2016-08-06 15:57:17.419 situation where we created a 2016-08-06 15:57:17.435 situation where we created a 2016-08-06 15:57:21.495 show that was exclusive to a 2016-08-06 15:57:21.511 show that was exclusive to a 2016-08-06 15:57:23.528 group of people that came to our 2016-08-06 15:57:23.544 group of people that came to our 2016-08-06 15:57:24.536 shows all the time and found our 2016-08-06 15:57:24.538 space downtown to be perfectly 2016-08-06 15:57:24.552 shows all the time and found our 2016-08-06 15:57:24.554 space downtown to be perfectly 2016-08-06 15:57:28.619 acceptable and created something 2016-08-06 15:57:28.621 that by its nature was 2016-08-06 15:57:28.622 exclusive. 2016-08-06 15:57:28.635 acceptable and created something 2016-08-06 15:57:28.637 that by its nature was 2016-08-06 15:57:28.638 exclusive. 2016-08-06 15:57:31.696 It is the first time we started 2016-08-06 15:57:31.712 It is the first time we started 2016-08-06 15:57:32.71 asking the question of who we 2016-08-06 15:57:32.727 asking the question of who we 2016-08-06 15:57:34.71 are excluding when we do our 2016-08-06 15:57:34.711 shows. 2016-08-06 15:57:34.726 are excluding when we do our 2016-08-06 15:57:34.727 shows. 2016-08-06 15:57:38.788 We owned up to it and told 2016-08-06 15:57:38.805 We owned up to it and told 2016-08-06 15:57:40.838 everyone that unfortunately if 2016-08-06 15:57:40.854 everyone that unfortunately if 2016-08-06 15:57:44.867 you are in a wheelchair, he will 2016-08-06 15:57:44.869 not be able to come to the show. 2016-08-06 15:57:44.883 you are in a wheelchair, he will 2016-08-06 15:57:44.885 not be able to come to the show. 2016-08-06 15:57:47.922 Please call us with questions, 2016-08-06 15:57:47.937 Please call us with questions, 2016-08-06 15:57:51.99 thoughts, or feedback, and set 2016-08-06 15:57:51.992 out to be more intentional in 2016-08-06 15:57:51.993 the future. 2016-08-06 15:57:52.009 thoughts, or feedback, and set 2016-08-06 15:57:52.012 out to be more intentional in 2016-08-06 15:57:52.014 the future. 2016-08-06 15:57:56.119 It was a lesson that felt bad. 2016-08-06 15:57:56.135 It was a lesson that felt bad. 2016-08-06 15:58:00.199 In 2016, we were asked to create 2016-08-06 15:58:00.215 In 2016, we were asked to create 2016-08-06 15:58:03.246 a show for kids with autism 2016-08-06 15:58:03.263 a show for kids with autism 2016-08-06 15:58:06.328 spectrum disorders as part of 2016-08-06 15:58:06.329 the Pittsburgh children's 2016-08-06 15:58:06.331 theater Festival. 2016-08-06 15:58:06.344 spectrum disorders as part of 2016-08-06 15:58:06.346 the Pittsburgh children's 2016-08-06 15:58:06.347 theater Festival. 2016-08-06 15:58:13.451 We had a 2016-08-06 15:58:13.453 unique position because 2016-08-06 15:58:13.454 we are not a presenting company. 2016-08-06 15:58:13.468 We had a 2016-08-06 15:58:13.469 unique position because 2016-08-06 15:58:13.471 we are not a presenting company. 2016-08-06 15:58:16.528 We are a producing company and 2016-08-06 15:58:16.53 we create our own work. 2016-08-06 15:58:16.545 We are a producing company and 2016-08-06 15:58:16.547 we create our own work. 2016-08-06 15:58:20.641 We were doing a lot of learning 2016-08-06 15:58:20.657 We were doing a lot of learning 2016-08-06 15:58:23.698 about best practices around 2016-08-06 15:58:23.699 creating sensory-friendly shows. 2016-08-06 15:58:23.714 about best practices around 2016-08-06 15:58:23.716 creating sensory-friendly shows. 2016-08-06 15:58:26.74 They all assumed, because they 2016-08-06 15:58:26.757 They all assumed, because they 2016-08-06 15:58:30.783 need to, that the show the way 2016-08-06 15:58:30.799 need to, that the show the way 2016-08-06 15:58:31.782 it has been built is exclusive 2016-08-06 15:58:31.784 and we need to add on things to 2016-08-06 15:58:31.799 it has been built is exclusive 2016-08-06 15:58:31.8 and we need to add on things to 2016-08-06 15:58:33.83 make it accommodating like a 2016-08-06 15:58:33.846 make it accommodating like a 2016-08-06 15:58:35.879 safe room or visual or social 2016-08-06 15:58:35.896 safe room or visual or social 2016-08-06 15:58:38.93 guide to prep people on the way. 2016-08-06 15:58:38.947 guide to prep people on the way. 2016-08-06 15:58:42.951 Did them fidgets, raze the house 2016-08-06 15:58:42.952 lights. 2016-08-06 15:58:42.967 Did them fidgets, raze the house 2016-08-06 15:58:42.968 lights. 2016-08-06 15:58:46.995 We thought what if we can make 2016-08-06 15:58:46.996 it ourselves. 2016-08-06 15:58:47.011 We thought what if we can make 2016-08-06 15:58:47.012 it ourselves. 2016-08-06 15:58:49.041 We tried to employ the concept 2016-08-06 15:58:49.061 We tried to employ the concept 2016-08-06 15:58:51.077 of universal design in theater 2016-08-06 15:58:51.094 of universal design in theater 2016-08-06 15:58:54.169 making and make a piece that the 2016-08-06 15:58:54.183 making and make a piece that the 2016-08-06 15:58:56.241 way it is his belt is already 2016-08-06 15:58:56.258 way it is his belt is already 2016-08-06 15:58:59.28 inclusive so we do not need to 2016-08-06 15:58:59.282 make it change when someone with 2016-08-06 15:58:59.283 autism comes to the show. 2016-08-06 15:58:59.297 inclusive so we do not need to 2016-08-06 15:58:59.299 make it change when someone with 2016-08-06 15:58:59.3 autism comes to the show. 2016-08-06 15:59:01.278 It is for them. 2016-08-06 15:59:01.295 It is for them. 2016-08-06 15:59:03.286 Because it is designed with them 2016-08-06 15:59:03.302 Because it is designed with them 2016-08-06 15:59:09.415 in mind 2016-08-06 15:59:09.416 , maybe it would be 2016-08-06 15:59:09.432 in mind 2016-08-06 15:59:09.433 , maybe it would be 2016-08-06 15:59:10.418 welcoming to everybody. 2016-08-06 15:59:10.435 welcoming to everybody. 2016-08-06 15:59:13.423 Since we knew nothing about any 2016-08-06 15:59:13.439 Since we knew nothing about any 2016-08-06 15:59:15.451 of that, and we did not have the 2016-08-06 15:59:15.468 of that, and we did not have the 2016-08-06 15:59:19.533 resources we need, or you 2016-08-06 15:59:19.535 learned from previous mistakes 2016-08-06 15:59:19.549 resources we need, or you 2016-08-06 15:59:19.551 learned from previous mistakes 2016-08-06 15:59:21.573 and brought people on board to 2016-08-06 15:59:21.575 tell us what to do. 2016-08-06 15:59:21.59 and brought people on board to 2016-08-06 15:59:21.591 tell us what to do. 2016-08-06 15:59:25.572 That was arts for autism, 2016-08-06 15:59:25.588 That was arts for autism, 2016-08-06 15:59:29.616 firefly, Reveca who also 2016-08-06 15:59:29.618 presented this week. 2016-08-06 15:59:29.633 firefly, Reveca who also 2016-08-06 15:59:29.634 presented this week. 2016-08-06 15:59:35.665 We hired an actor who had autism 2016-08-06 15:59:35.667 who self identified as an 2016-08-06 15:59:35.682 We hired an actor who had autism 2016-08-06 15:59:35.683 who self identified as an 2016-08-06 15:59:36.667 advocate and was not afraid to 2016-08-06 15:59:36.684 advocate and was not afraid to 2016-08-06 15:59:40.668 tell us how she felt. 2016-08-06 15:59:40.67 She became part of the creative 2016-08-06 15:59:40.671 team. 2016-08-06 15:59:40.685 tell us how she felt. 2016-08-06 15:59:40.686 She became part of the creative 2016-08-06 15:59:40.688 team. 2016-08-06 15:59:42.667 We set out over six months to 2016-08-06 15:59:42.683 We set out over six months to 2016-08-06 15:59:44.702 have a workshop we where we 2016-08-06 15:59:44.719 have a workshop we where we 2016-08-06 15:59:46.707 trained and learned about autism 2016-08-06 15:59:46.727 trained and learned about autism 2016-08-06 15:59:48.707 spectrum disorders in different 2016-08-06 15:59:48.723 spectrum disorders in different 2016-08-06 15:59:50.749 ways it manifests in how to 2016-08-06 15:59:50.751 reach kids through the arts. 2016-08-06 15:59:50.766 ways it manifests in how to 2016-08-06 15:59:50.767 reach kids through the arts. 2016-08-06 15:59:52.834 Then we would go away and write 2016-08-06 15:59:52.835 a little bit. 2016-08-06 15:59:52.85 Then we would go away and write 2016-08-06 15:59:52.852 a little bit. 2016-08-06 15:59:56.919 We would workshop s'more and go 2016-08-06 15:59:56.921 away and write a little bit. 2016-08-06 15:59:56.936 We would workshop s'more and go 2016-08-06 15:59:56.938 away and write a little bit. 2016-08-06 16:00:00.987 The end result was an enchanted 2016-08-06 16:00:01.003 The end result was an enchanted 2016-08-06 16:00:04.057 forest they came to life or 2016-08-06 16:00:04.058 about two hours every day that 2016-08-06 16:00:04.073 forest they came to life or 2016-08-06 16:00:04.075 about two hours every day that 2016-08-06 16:00:08.034 kids could come to in 2016-08-06 16:00:08.035 shifts. 2016-08-06 16:00:08.05 kids could come to in 2016-08-06 16:00:08.052 shifts. 2016-08-06 16:00:11.076 I would see if they were able to 2016-08-06 16:00:11.077 wait or not. 2016-08-06 16:00:11.092 I would see if they were able to 2016-08-06 16:00:11.093 wait or not. 2016-08-06 16:00:14.117 I would get them in a soonest 2016-08-06 16:00:14.119 they would explore at their 2016-08-06 16:00:14.134 I would get them in a soonest 2016-08-06 16:00:14.136 they would explore at their 2016-08-06 16:00:16.117 leisure and leave when they 2016-08-06 16:00:16.118 wanted to. 2016-08-06 16:00:16.133 leisure and leave when they 2016-08-06 16:00:16.135 wanted to. 2016-08-06 16:00:18.169 It was built intentionally so it 2016-08-06 16:00:18.185 It was built intentionally so it 2016-08-06 16:00:21.166 was rewarding when you said yes 2016-08-06 16:00:21.183 was rewarding when you said yes 2016-08-06 16:00:22.163 to each barrier. 2016-08-06 16:00:22.18 to each barrier. 2016-08-06 16:00:26.167 It ranged from starting at the 2016-08-06 16:00:26.169 highest light level going down 2016-08-06 16:00:26.184 It ranged from starting at the 2016-08-06 16:00:26.186 highest light level going down 2016-08-06 16:00:28.165 to the lowest light level. 2016-08-06 16:00:28.182 to the lowest light level. 2016-08-06 16:00:32.2 Every time you accepted the 2016-08-06 16:00:32.202 challenge of moving to the next 2016-08-06 16:00:32.217 Every time you accepted the 2016-08-06 16:00:32.218 challenge of moving to the next 2016-08-06 16:00:33.197 room, it was calmer. 2016-08-06 16:00:33.213 room, it was calmer. 2016-08-06 16:00:37.199 The designers made it in a way 2016-08-06 16:00:37.2 you could control your level of 2016-08-06 16:00:37.202 engagement. 2016-08-06 16:00:37.218 The designers made it in a way 2016-08-06 16:00:37.221 you could control your level of 2016-08-06 16:00:37.223 engagement. 2016-08-06 16:00:39.198 The forest was alive. 2016-08-06 16:00:39.214 The forest was alive. 2016-08-06 16:00:41.198 There were certain sounds in 2016-08-06 16:00:41.199 certain places. 2016-08-06 16:00:41.214 There were certain sounds in 2016-08-06 16:00:41.216 certain places. 2016-08-06 16:00:44.2 We had a log in the middle of 2016-08-06 16:00:44.216 We had a log in the middle of 2016-08-06 16:00:45.239 the forest. 2016-08-06 16:00:45.255 the forest. 2016-08-06 16:00:48.281 There was a sight-specific area 2016-08-06 16:00:48.298 There was a sight-specific area 2016-08-06 16:00:49.281 where sound was imitating. 2016-08-06 16:00:49.298 where sound was imitating. 2016-08-06 16:00:51.282 If you liked it, you could get 2016-08-06 16:00:51.283 closer. 2016-08-06 16:00:51.298 If you liked it, you could get 2016-08-06 16:00:51.299 closer. 2016-08-06 16:00:53.282 If you did not, there were many 2016-08-06 16:00:53.283 places you can go. 2016-08-06 16:00:53.298 If you did not, there were many 2016-08-06 16:00:53.299 places you can go. 2016-08-06 16:00:57.334 The goal was not to be all 2016-08-06 16:00:57.336 things to all people that have 2016-08-06 16:00:57.35 The goal was not to be all 2016-08-06 16:00:57.352 things to all people that have 2016-08-06 16:01:01.37 people who come in the door and 2016-08-06 16:01:01.387 people who come in the door and 2016-08-06 16:01:02.374 find a pocket of the forest that 2016-08-06 16:01:02.39 find a pocket of the forest that 2016-08-06 16:01:04.421 made them feel comfortable with 2016-08-06 16:01:04.423 the overarching goal of having 2016-08-06 16:01:04.437 made them feel comfortable with 2016-08-06 16:01:04.439 the overarching goal of having 2016-08-06 16:01:08.494 kids with autism spectrum 2016-08-06 16:01:08.495 disorders playing together in 2016-08-06 16:01:08.496 the forest. 2016-08-06 16:01:08.51 kids with autism spectrum 2016-08-06 16:01:08.512 disorders playing together in 2016-08-06 16:01:08.513 the forest. 2016-08-06 16:01:11.535 David: very cool. 2016-08-06 16:01:11.551 David: very cool. 2016-08-06 16:01:16.705 Can you speak about 2016-08-06 16:01:16.706 your 2016-08-06 16:01:16.722 Can you speak about 2016-08-06 16:01:16.722 your 2016-08-06 16:01:21.853 experience and involvement 2016-08-06 16:01:21.869 experience and involvement 2016-08-06 16:01:24.872 consulting as well as performing 2016-08-06 16:01:24.873 in this? 2016-08-06 16:01:24.888 consulting as well as performing 2016-08-06 16:01:24.889 in this? 2016-08-06 16:01:26.918 >> Sure. 2016-08-06 16:01:26.934 >> Sure. 2016-08-06 16:01:37.074 Well, I suppose 2016-08-06 16:01:37.075 an important 2016-08-06 16:01:37.09 Well, I suppose 2016-08-06 16:01:37.095 an important 2016-08-06 16:01:41.119 part of this to know is 2016-08-06 16:01:41.125 this was my first time being in 2016-08-06 16:01:41.135 part of this to know is 2016-08-06 16:01:41.137 this was my first time being in 2016-08-06 16:01:46.117 a project -- professional 2016-08-06 16:01:46.134 a project -- professional 2016-08-06 16:01:47.119 production at all. 2016-08-06 16:01:47.12 That was an interesting 2016-08-06 16:01:47.122 experience, to be part of the 2016-08-06 16:01:47.135 production at all. 2016-08-06 16:01:47.137 That was an interesting 2016-08-06 16:01:47.139 experience, to be part of the 2016-08-06 16:01:50.117 development as well my first 2016-08-06 16:01:50.134 development as well my first 2016-08-06 16:01:52.166 time ever being in a 2016-08-06 16:01:52.168 professional production. 2016-08-06 16:01:52.183 time ever being in a 2016-08-06 16:01:52.184 professional production. 2016-08-06 16:01:56.216 I was not sure what to expect 2016-08-06 16:01:56.233 I was not sure what to expect 2016-08-06 16:02:01.285 when I came in 2016-08-06 16:02:01.286 because this was 2016-08-06 16:02:01.288 completely new to me. 2016-08-06 16:02:01.302 when I came in 2016-08-06 16:02:01.303 because this was 2016-08-06 16:02:01.304 completely new to me. 2016-08-06 16:02:05.323 I had been a part of inclusion 2016-08-06 16:02:05.339 I had been a part of inclusion 2016-08-06 16:02:07.323 don't speak for which is where 2016-08-06 16:02:07.34 don't speak for which is where 2016-08-06 16:02:10.365 -- I had been part of inclusion 2016-08-06 16:02:10.382 -- I had been part of inclusion 2016-08-06 16:02:13.365 films which is where Bricolage 2016-08-06 16:02:13.366 found me. 2016-08-06 16:02:13.381 films which is where Bricolage 2016-08-06 16:02:13.382 found me. 2016-08-06 16:02:16.365 They had seen some of my work 2016-08-06 16:02:16.381 They had seen some of my work 2016-08-06 16:02:19.365 with the inclusion films summer 2016-08-06 16:02:19.382 with the inclusion films summer 2016-08-06 16:02:20.416 camps. 2016-08-06 16:02:20.432 camps. 2016-08-06 16:02:23.415 But I had never been in an 2016-08-06 16:02:23.431 But I had never been in an 2016-08-06 16:02:24.417 actual professional production 2016-08-06 16:02:24.433 actual professional production 2016-08-06 16:02:27.415 with other neural typical 2016-08-06 16:02:27.416 people. 2016-08-06 16:02:27.431 with other neural typical 2016-08-06 16:02:27.432 people. 2016-08-06 16:02:32.416 It was odd coming in because I 2016-08-06 16:02:32.432 It was odd coming in because I 2016-08-06 16:02:35.415 was not sure whether -- where 2016-08-06 16:02:35.432 was not sure whether -- where 2016-08-06 16:02:36.416 the boundaries were. 2016-08-06 16:02:36.432 the boundaries were. 2016-08-06 16:02:39.465 I was not sure how far I could 2016-08-06 16:02:39.466 go in saying that will never 2016-08-06 16:02:39.481 I was not sure how far I could 2016-08-06 16:02:39.487 go in saying that will never 2016-08-06 16:02:44.465 work or here is what his word -- 2016-08-06 16:02:44.471 what will work instead. 2016-08-06 16:02:44.482 work or here is what his word -- 2016-08-06 16:02:44.484 what will work instead. 2016-08-06 16:02:46.465 As we got further into the 2016-08-06 16:02:46.482 As we got further into the 2016-08-06 16:02:48.464 writing and production, I became 2016-08-06 16:02:48.466 a lot more comfortable. 2016-08-06 16:02:48.481 writing and production, I became 2016-08-06 16:02:48.483 a lot more comfortable. 2016-08-06 16:02:58.624 They became more comfortable 2016-08-06 16:02:58.641 They became more comfortable 2016-08-06 16:03:03.789 approaching the and asking me 2016-08-06 16:03:03.806 approaching the and asking me 2016-08-06 16:03:05.869 the best they became more 2016-08-06 16:03:05.885 the best they became more 2016-08-06 16:03:09.868 comfortable -- they became more 2016-08-06 16:03:09.87 comfortable approaching me and 2016-08-06 16:03:09.884 comfortable -- they became more 2016-08-06 16:03:09.886 comfortable approaching me and 2016-08-06 16:03:11.867 asking me if this made me and 2016-08-06 16:03:11.884 asking me if this made me and 2016-08-06 16:03:12.864 comfortable. 2016-08-06 16:03:12.881 comfortable. 2016-08-06 16:03:16.866 It is important to remember I am 2016-08-06 16:03:16.883 It is important to remember I am 2016-08-06 16:03:17.867 autistic but I do not represent 2016-08-06 16:03:17.868 the entire artistic community. 2016-08-06 16:03:17.883 autistic but I do not represent 2016-08-06 16:03:17.885 the entire artistic community. 2016-08-06 16:03:21.872 That was a bit of a challenge 2016-08-06 16:03:21.888 That was a bit of a challenge 2016-08-06 16:03:24.881 for me because I am one small 2016-08-06 16:03:24.897 for me because I am one small 2016-08-06 16:03:27.964 part of this huge, diverse 2016-08-06 16:03:27.981 part of this huge, diverse 2016-08-06 16:03:28.965 community. 2016-08-06 16:03:28.982 community. 2016-08-06 16:03:31.972 And I am not even a particularly 2016-08-06 16:03:31.988 And I am not even a particularly 2016-08-06 16:03:33.968 average part of the community. 2016-08-06 16:03:33.985 average part of the community. 2016-08-06 16:03:42.989 I am not necessarily 2016-08-06 16:03:42.99 a person 2016-08-06 16:03:43.006 I am not necessarily 2016-08-06 16:03:43.007 a person 2016-08-06 16:03:45.991 who displays the typical traits 2016-08-06 16:03:46.007 who displays the typical traits 2016-08-06 16:03:47.99 of autism. 2016-08-06 16:03:48.006 of autism. 2016-08-06 16:03:53.031 I had to be very cognizant 2016-08-06 16:03:53.032 of 2016-08-06 16:03:53.048 I had to be very cognizant 2016-08-06 16:03:53.049 of 2016-08-06 16:03:56.073 thinking for example this does 2016-08-06 16:03:56.094 thinking for example this does 2016-08-06 16:03:58.073 not bother me, but what would 2016-08-06 16:03:58.09 not bother me, but what would 2016-08-06 16:04:00.081 buy three-year-old brother who 2016-08-06 16:04:00.094 buy three-year-old brother who 2016-08-06 16:04:04.073 is more severely autistic think 2016-08-06 16:04:04.074 about this? 2016-08-06 16:04:04.089 is more severely autistic think 2016-08-06 16:04:04.091 about this? 2016-08-06 16:04:09.081 This does bother me, but 2016-08-06 16:04:09.082 is that 2016-08-06 16:04:09.084 just like thing or would it be a 2016-08-06 16:04:09.098 This does bother me, but 2016-08-06 16:04:09.099 is that 2016-08-06 16:04:09.101 just like thing or would it be a 2016-08-06 16:04:10.073 common problem? 2016-08-06 16:04:10.089 common problem? 2016-08-06 16:04:12.117 It was a real balancing act 2016-08-06 16:04:12.118 going on. 2016-08-06 16:04:12.134 It was a real balancing act 2016-08-06 16:04:12.135 going on. 2016-08-06 16:04:21.116 I think in the end, I feel 2016-08-06 16:04:21.117 I was 2016-08-06 16:04:21.133 I think in the end, I feel 2016-08-06 16:04:21.134 I was 2016-08-06 16:04:24.115 very comfortable coming forward 2016-08-06 16:04:24.132 very comfortable coming forward 2016-08-06 16:04:27.126 with my thoughts and feelings. 2016-08-06 16:04:27.143 with my thoughts and feelings. 2016-08-06 16:04:32.174 And I think I 2016-08-06 16:04:32.175 probably, if 2016-08-06 16:04:32.191 And I think I 2016-08-06 16:04:32.192 probably, if 2016-08-06 16:04:37.249 anything, I would 2016-08-06 16:04:37.25 want to have 2016-08-06 16:04:37.252 spoken up more in the beginning. 2016-08-06 16:04:37.266 anything, I would 2016-08-06 16:04:37.267 want to have 2016-08-06 16:04:37.268 spoken up more in the beginning. 2016-08-06 16:04:43.331 Overall, I think I don't 2016-08-06 16:04:43.348 Overall, I think I don't 2016-08-06 16:04:47.369 regret 2016-08-06 16:04:47.386 regret 2016-08-06 16:04:51.371 any of the things I put forward. 2016-08-06 16:04:51.388 any of the things I put forward. 2016-08-06 16:04:56.467 David: 2016-08-06 16:04:56.468 We were talking about 2016-08-06 16:04:56.469 this earlier. 2016-08-06 16:04:56.484 David: 2016-08-06 16:04:56.485 We were talking about 2016-08-06 16:04:56.486 this earlier. 2016-08-06 16:05:04.464 It is finding that balance 2016-08-06 16:05:04.464 of 2016-08-06 16:05:04.48 It is finding that balance 2016-08-06 16:05:04.481 of 2016-08-06 16:05:06.489 when you are self-advocating and 2016-08-06 16:05:06.491 moving forward and also being 2016-08-06 16:05:06.506 when you are self-advocating and 2016-08-06 16:05:06.507 moving forward and also being 2016-08-06 16:05:09.491 welcomed by the artistic staff 2016-08-06 16:05:09.507 welcomed by the artistic staff 2016-08-06 16:05:11.492 and those questions being sought 2016-08-06 16:05:11.493 out to you. 2016-08-06 16:05:11.508 and those questions being sought 2016-08-06 16:05:11.509 out to you. 2016-08-06 16:05:14.533 In this experience, it was a 2016-08-06 16:05:14.554 In this experience, it was a 2016-08-06 16:05:17.535 little like I am filling this 2016-08-06 16:05:17.536 out. 2016-08-06 16:05:17.552 little like I am filling this 2016-08-06 16:05:17.553 out. 2016-08-06 16:05:19.577 As you got more comfortable 2016-08-06 16:05:19.578 because those questions were 2016-08-06 16:05:19.593 As you got more comfortable 2016-08-06 16:05:19.595 because those questions were 2016-08-06 16:05:22.619 asked and you felt this artistic 2016-08-06 16:05:22.636 asked and you felt this artistic 2016-08-06 16:05:25.616 staff was supportive that you 2016-08-06 16:05:25.633 staff was supportive that you 2016-08-06 16:05:26.631 could get more comfortable 2016-08-06 16:05:26.648 could get more comfortable 2016-08-06 16:05:27.622 voicing your opinion. 2016-08-06 16:05:27.639 voicing your opinion. 2016-08-06 16:05:30.667 I think that is an important 2016-08-06 16:05:30.669 thing overall. 2016-08-06 16:05:30.684 I think that is an important 2016-08-06 16:05:30.685 thing overall. 2016-08-06 16:05:33.715 Just having a welcoming 2016-08-06 16:05:33.716 environment. 2016-08-06 16:05:33.717 >> Yes. 2016-08-06 16:05:33.732 Just having a welcoming 2016-08-06 16:05:33.733 environment. 2016-08-06 16:05:33.734 >> Yes. 2016-08-06 16:05:38.784 I think part of it was 2016-08-06 16:05:38.785 I was not 2016-08-06 16:05:38.801 I think part of it was 2016-08-06 16:05:38.802 I was not 2016-08-06 16:05:42.828 sure where the lines, where the 2016-08-06 16:05:42.83 boundary of me as a performer 2016-08-06 16:05:42.845 sure where the lines, where the 2016-08-06 16:05:42.848 boundary of me as a performer 2016-08-06 16:05:45.916 ended and the boundary of me as 2016-08-06 16:05:45.933 ended and the boundary of me as 2016-08-06 16:05:46.914 helping to develop the show 2016-08-06 16:05:46.932 helping to develop the show 2016-08-06 16:05:48.913 began. 2016-08-06 16:05:48.93 began. 2016-08-06 16:05:49.917 David: Right. 2016-08-06 16:05:49.934 David: Right. 2016-08-06 16:05:55.973 >> As a performer, I 2016-08-06 16:05:55.974 have a 2016-08-06 16:05:55.975 responsibility to perform what 2016-08-06 16:05:55.976 is given to me. 2016-08-06 16:05:55.989 >> As a performer, I 2016-08-06 16:05:55.99 have a 2016-08-06 16:05:55.992 responsibility to perform what 2016-08-06 16:05:55.993 is given to me. 2016-08-06 16:05:58.994 But as a developer, I have a 2016-08-06 16:05:58.996 responsibility to help create 2016-08-06 16:05:59.011 But as a developer, I have a 2016-08-06 16:05:59.012 responsibility to help create 2016-08-06 16:06:00.032 that. 2016-08-06 16:06:00.049 that. 2016-08-06 16:06:04.044 That is also a really tricky 2016-08-06 16:06:04.061 That is also a really tricky 2016-08-06 16:06:08.037 balancing act to have. 2016-08-06 16:06:08.053 balancing act to have. 2016-08-06 16:06:11.032 David: Also a balancing act in 2016-08-06 16:06:11.049 David: Also a balancing act in 2016-08-06 16:06:12.036 the immersive theater. 2016-08-06 16:06:12.052 the immersive theater. 2016-08-06 16:06:14.079 It is not as traditional in its 2016-08-06 16:06:14.096 It is not as traditional in its 2016-08-06 16:06:17.076 own creation, so that is an 2016-08-06 16:06:17.093 own creation, so that is an 2016-08-06 16:06:20.165 added thing that happens in the 2016-08-06 16:06:20.182 added thing that happens in the 2016-08-06 16:06:22.167 nature and context of what you 2016-08-06 16:06:22.184 nature and context of what you 2016-08-06 16:06:23.215 guys are creating. 2016-08-06 16:06:23.231 guys are creating. 2016-08-06 16:06:24.215 >> Absolutely. 2016-08-06 16:06:24.231 >> Absolutely. 2016-08-06 16:06:26.215 I should specify that in 2016-08-06 16:06:26.232 I should specify that in 2016-08-06 16:06:28.219 addition to being an immersive 2016-08-06 16:06:28.236 addition to being an immersive 2016-08-06 16:06:31.24 theater piece, our process was 2016-08-06 16:06:31.242 devised. 2016-08-06 16:06:31.257 theater piece, our process was 2016-08-06 16:06:31.259 devised. 2016-08-06 16:06:34.243 We create it together. 2016-08-06 16:06:34.245 We did not have any concept. 2016-08-06 16:06:34.26 We create it together. 2016-08-06 16:06:34.262 We did not have any concept. 2016-08-06 16:06:36.282 We just had a goal for the show. 2016-08-06 16:06:36.3 We just had a goal for the show. 2016-08-06 16:06:39.285 We gathered a team we hoped 2016-08-06 16:06:39.286 would creatively contribute to 2016-08-06 16:06:39.301 We gathered a team we hoped 2016-08-06 16:06:39.303 would creatively contribute to 2016-08-06 16:06:42.285 that and then we would do 2016-08-06 16:06:42.287 different rehearsals and 2016-08-06 16:06:42.302 that and then we would do 2016-08-06 16:06:42.303 different rehearsals and 2016-08-06 16:06:43.283 exercise. 2016-08-06 16:06:43.3 exercise. 2016-08-06 16:06:46.29 Little seeds over time created 2016-08-06 16:06:46.307 Little seeds over time created 2016-08-06 16:06:47.282 the foundation for it. 2016-08-06 16:06:47.298 the foundation for it. 2016-08-06 16:06:51.283 It is interesting in immersive 2016-08-06 16:06:51.299 It is interesting in immersive 2016-08-06 16:06:53.283 theater and the devised passes, 2016-08-06 16:06:53.3 theater and the devised passes, 2016-08-06 16:06:55.285 there is a constant balancing 2016-08-06 16:06:55.301 there is a constant balancing 2016-08-06 16:06:59.329 act of where does my role as an 2016-08-06 16:06:59.347 act of where does my role as an 2016-08-06 16:07:01.328 actor into Jupiter begin and 2016-08-06 16:07:01.329 end. 2016-08-06 16:07:01.345 actor into Jupiter begin and 2016-08-06 16:07:01.346 end. 2016-08-06 16:07:04.326 As we get closer to opening, the 2016-08-06 16:07:04.343 As we get closer to opening, the 2016-08-06 16:07:05.326 ranks of authority become more 2016-08-06 16:07:05.327 clear. 2016-08-06 16:07:05.343 ranks of authority become more 2016-08-06 16:07:05.349 clear. 2016-08-06 16:07:09.424 There is a lot of space to 2016-08-06 16:07:09.43 contribute when it is just the 2016-08-06 16:07:09.431 seeds. 2016-08-06 16:07:09.44 There is a lot of space to 2016-08-06 16:07:09.442 contribute when it is just the 2016-08-06 16:07:09.443 seeds. 2016-08-06 16:07:12.437 As we get closer, we have to 2016-08-06 16:07:12.454 As we get closer, we have to 2016-08-06 16:07:13.471 start making decisions. 2016-08-06 16:07:13.487 start making decisions. 2016-08-06 16:07:16.494 There are only some things we 2016-08-06 16:07:16.496 can do that late in the game. 2016-08-06 16:07:16.511 There are only some things we 2016-08-06 16:07:16.513 can do that late in the game. 2016-08-06 16:07:19.492 It is certainly a balancing act 2016-08-06 16:07:19.493 for everybody. 2016-08-06 16:07:19.508 It is certainly a balancing act 2016-08-06 16:07:19.51 for everybody. 2016-08-06 16:07:23.494 David: In terms of the broad 2016-08-06 16:07:23.496 experience, you sort of touched 2016-08-06 16:07:23.497 on this. 2016-08-06 16:07:23.51 David: In terms of the broad 2016-08-06 16:07:23.512 experience, you sort of touched 2016-08-06 16:07:23.513 on this. 2016-08-06 16:07:27.49 I wonder if you could talk more 2016-08-06 16:07:27.508 I wonder if you could talk more 2016-08-06 16:07:30.578 about how actually the 2016-08-06 16:07:30.594 about how actually the 2016-08-06 16:07:31.58 performance was for you. 2016-08-06 16:07:31.596 performance was for you. 2016-08-06 16:07:36.672 Once you guys 2016-08-06 16:07:36.689 Once you guys 2016-08-06 16:07:37.673 opened and there 2016-08-06 16:07:37.689 opened and there 2016-08-06 16:07:39.744 was no longer the need to feel 2016-08-06 16:07:39.761 was no longer the need to feel 2016-08-06 16:07:40.746 like I am collaborating? 2016-08-06 16:07:40.762 like I am collaborating? 2016-08-06 16:07:42.828 Were you able to let go of that 2016-08-06 16:07:42.845 Were you able to let go of that 2016-08-06 16:07:45.833 idea you were constantly sort 2016-08-06 16:07:45.85 idea you were constantly sort 2016-08-06 16:07:49.831 of having to collaborate and 2016-08-06 16:07:49.833 relax into now I am a performer 2016-08-06 16:07:49.848 of having to collaborate and 2016-08-06 16:07:49.849 relax into now I am a performer 2016-08-06 16:07:52.916 in the show and will have this 2016-08-06 16:07:52.918 performance experience? 2016-08-06 16:07:52.933 in the show and will have this 2016-08-06 16:07:52.935 performance experience? 2016-08-06 16:07:54.915 >> Definitely there was some of 2016-08-06 16:07:54.932 >> Definitely there was some of 2016-08-06 16:07:55.913 that. 2016-08-06 16:07:55.93 that. 2016-08-06 16:07:58.918 When everything was more 2016-08-06 16:07:58.919 finalized, it became a lot 2016-08-06 16:07:58.934 When everything was more 2016-08-06 16:07:58.94 finalized, it became a lot 2016-08-06 16:08:03.993 easier to 2016-08-06 16:08:04.009 easier to 2016-08-06 16:08:04.993 relax into the role. 2016-08-06 16:08:05.01 relax into the role. 2016-08-06 16:08:10.003 Now my role is to help guide 2016-08-06 16:08:10.005 these audience members and 2016-08-06 16:08:10.006 connect with these audience 2016-08-06 16:08:10.014 Now my role is to help guide 2016-08-06 16:08:10.015 these audience members and 2016-08-06 16:08:10.017 connect with these audience 2016-08-06 16:08:10.993 members. 2016-08-06 16:08:11.011 members. 2016-08-06 16:08:14.036 That is what I am doing. 2016-08-06 16:08:14.053 That is what I am doing. 2016-08-06 16:08:18.166 At the same time with immersive 2016-08-06 16:08:18.168 theater and especially this 2016-08-06 16:08:18.169 piece, it is constant. 2016-08-06 16:08:18.183 At the same time with immersive 2016-08-06 16:08:18.185 theater and especially this 2016-08-06 16:08:18.186 piece, it is constant. 2016-08-06 16:08:22.167 Even once you have opened, you 2016-08-06 16:08:22.169 are constantly learning and 2016-08-06 16:08:22.184 Even once you have opened, you 2016-08-06 16:08:22.185 are constantly learning and 2016-08-06 16:08:23.214 changing things. 2016-08-06 16:08:23.231 changing things. 2016-08-06 16:08:27.217 Even after our opening day, we 2016-08-06 16:08:27.219 were still changing things the 2016-08-06 16:08:27.234 Even after our opening day, we 2016-08-06 16:08:27.236 were still changing things the 2016-08-06 16:08:29.215 next day and had to make 2016-08-06 16:08:29.232 next day and had to make 2016-08-06 16:08:30.213 adjustments to the show. 2016-08-06 16:08:30.23 adjustments to the show. 2016-08-06 16:08:35.228 Just because 2016-08-06 16:08:35.229 the audience is 2016-08-06 16:08:35.245 Just because 2016-08-06 16:08:35.246 the audience is 2016-08-06 16:08:38.288 such a huge part of this and 2016-08-06 16:08:38.29 also because this particular 2016-08-06 16:08:38.305 such a huge part of this and 2016-08-06 16:08:38.307 also because this particular 2016-08-06 16:08:40.33 audience has a lot of very 2016-08-06 16:08:40.346 audience has a lot of very 2016-08-06 16:08:43.328 unpredictable both good moments 2016-08-06 16:08:43.33 and bad moments. 2016-08-06 16:08:43.345 unpredictable both good moments 2016-08-06 16:08:43.347 and bad moments. 2016-08-06 16:08:48.329 It is a constant conversation 2016-08-06 16:08:48.33 between the performers and 2016-08-06 16:08:48.345 It is a constant conversation 2016-08-06 16:08:48.347 between the performers and 2016-08-06 16:08:49.326 audience. 2016-08-06 16:08:49.343 audience. 2016-08-06 16:08:53.327 There's constant adjustments 2016-08-06 16:08:53.329 that have to be made even while 2016-08-06 16:08:53.331 it is running. 2016-08-06 16:08:53.344 There's constant adjustments 2016-08-06 16:08:53.346 that have to be made even while 2016-08-06 16:08:53.347 it is running. 2016-08-06 16:08:57.326 David: Jackie, can you speak 2016-08-06 16:08:57.343 David: Jackie, can you speak 2016-08-06 16:09:02.367 more in terms of the theater's 2016-08-06 16:09:02.384 more in terms of the theater's 2016-08-06 16:09:04.367 experience with this show and in 2016-08-06 16:09:04.384 experience with this show and in 2016-08-06 16:09:08.414 other work that you have done 2016-08-06 16:09:08.415 that has been inclusive? 2016-08-06 16:09:08.431 other work that you have done 2016-08-06 16:09:08.433 that has been inclusive? 2016-08-06 16:09:11.418 What the audience engagement has 2016-08-06 16:09:11.435 What the audience engagement has 2016-08-06 16:09:13.417 been, especially maybe with this 2016-08-06 16:09:13.433 been, especially maybe with this 2016-08-06 16:09:16.494 community when you are seeing an 2016-08-06 16:09:16.511 community when you are seeing an 2016-08-06 16:09:17.495 audience that may be has not 2016-08-06 16:09:17.511 audience that may be has not 2016-08-06 16:09:20.536 seen a representation of 2016-08-06 16:09:20.553 seen a representation of 2016-08-06 16:09:21.538 themselves or that culture. 2016-08-06 16:09:21.554 themselves or that culture. 2016-08-06 16:09:25.54 Talk a little bit more about 2016-08-06 16:09:25.542 what your expense has been with 2016-08-06 16:09:25.543 that. 2016-08-06 16:09:25.557 Talk a little bit more about 2016-08-06 16:09:25.558 what your expense has been with 2016-08-06 16:09:25.56 that. 2016-08-06 16:09:29.624 >> The feedback we get from our 2016-08-06 16:09:29.626 audience with our immersive 2016-08-06 16:09:29.641 >> The feedback we get from our 2016-08-06 16:09:29.643 audience with our immersive 2016-08-06 16:09:32.717 pieces as opposed to our other 2016-08-06 16:09:32.734 pieces as opposed to our other 2016-08-06 16:09:33.724 programs is overwhelming. 2016-08-06 16:09:33.741 programs is overwhelming. 2016-08-06 16:09:38.789 We find we 2016-08-06 16:09:38.791 get long e-mails from 2016-08-06 16:09:38.806 We find we 2016-08-06 16:09:38.807 get long e-mails from 2016-08-06 16:09:42.786 people sometimes a month after 2016-08-06 16:09:42.803 people sometimes a month after 2016-08-06 16:09:46.827 they have been to the show 2016-08-06 16:09:46.829 talking about in detail what 2016-08-06 16:09:46.831 their experience was like in the 2016-08-06 16:09:46.844 they have been to the show 2016-08-06 16:09:46.846 talking about in detail what 2016-08-06 16:09:46.847 their experience was like in the 2016-08-06 16:09:47.827 space. 2016-08-06 16:09:47.844 space. 2016-08-06 16:09:52.825 That presents its own challenge 2016-08-06 16:09:52.843 That presents its own challenge 2016-08-06 16:09:56.83 because your funders want 2016-08-06 16:09:56.832 qualitative information and you 2016-08-06 16:09:56.847 because your funders want 2016-08-06 16:09:56.853 qualitative information and you 2016-08-06 16:09:58.827 have tons of stories from people 2016-08-06 16:09:58.832 but no format to submit them. 2016-08-06 16:09:58.844 have tons of stories from people 2016-08-06 16:09:58.847 but no format to submit them. 2016-08-06 16:10:00.871 That becomes a challenge as 2016-08-06 16:10:00.872 well. 2016-08-06 16:10:00.888 That becomes a challenge as 2016-08-06 16:10:00.889 well. 2016-08-06 16:10:04.868 We have become accustomed to a 2016-08-06 16:10:04.87 different kind of feedback. 2016-08-06 16:10:04.885 We have become accustomed to a 2016-08-06 16:10:04.887 different kind of feedback. 2016-08-06 16:10:07.869 The thing that surprised us the 2016-08-06 16:10:07.871 most about the feedback for the 2016-08-06 16:10:07.886 The thing that surprised us the 2016-08-06 16:10:07.888 most about the feedback for the 2016-08-06 16:10:09.921 show was we did not have this 2016-08-06 16:10:09.937 show was we did not have this 2016-08-06 16:10:10.962 audience before. 2016-08-06 16:10:10.98 audience before. 2016-08-06 16:10:13.966 We had not done any sensory 2016-08-06 16:10:13.984 We had not done any sensory 2016-08-06 16:10:14.962 friendly programming. 2016-08-06 16:10:14.979 friendly programming. 2016-08-06 16:10:17.966 We had not done outreach. 2016-08-06 16:10:17.968 This was our first venture. 2016-08-06 16:10:17.983 We had not done outreach. 2016-08-06 16:10:17.984 This was our first venture. 2016-08-06 16:10:21 Part of that was relying on the 2016-08-06 16:10:21.017 Part of that was relying on the 2016-08-06 16:10:25.163 trust in the festival to bring 2016-08-06 16:10:25.179 trust in the festival to bring 2016-08-06 16:10:26.176 an audience with it because it 2016-08-06 16:10:26.193 an audience with it because it 2016-08-06 16:10:27.164 was offering a showcase of 2016-08-06 16:10:27.181 was offering a showcase of 2016-08-06 16:10:29.213 shows that parents could 2016-08-06 16:10:29.215 choose from. 2016-08-06 16:10:29.23 shows that parents could 2016-08-06 16:10:29.232 choose from. 2016-08-06 16:10:33.214 Throughout the festival, there 2016-08-06 16:10:33.215 was not one day that was your 2016-08-06 16:10:33.216 day. 2016-08-06 16:10:33.231 Throughout the festival, there 2016-08-06 16:10:33.233 was not one day that was your 2016-08-06 16:10:33.234 day. 2016-08-06 16:10:35.215 There were several days you 2016-08-06 16:10:35.217 could do lots of things. 2016-08-06 16:10:35.232 There were several days you 2016-08-06 16:10:35.234 could do lots of things. 2016-08-06 16:10:38.214 It was OK if you could not get 2016-08-06 16:10:38.231 It was OK if you could not get 2016-08-06 16:10:42.216 out the door today but can't 2016-08-06 16:10:42.217 tomorrow. 2016-08-06 16:10:42.233 out the door today but can't 2016-08-06 16:10:42.234 tomorrow. 2016-08-06 16:10:44.245 We were surprised to find we 2016-08-06 16:10:44.266 We were surprised to find we 2016-08-06 16:10:49.289 filled almost 2016-08-06 16:10:49.306 filled almost 2016-08-06 16:10:50.286 all the possible 2016-08-06 16:10:50.292 slots when we had no audience to 2016-08-06 16:10:50.294 speak up outside of our 2016-08-06 16:10:50.303 all the possible 2016-08-06 16:10:50.305 slots when we had no audience to 2016-08-06 16:10:50.306 speak up outside of our 2016-08-06 16:10:53.327 partnerships and the people that 2016-08-06 16:10:53.329 brought other people to our 2016-08-06 16:10:53.33 door. 2016-08-06 16:10:53.345 partnerships and the people that 2016-08-06 16:10:53.347 brought other people to our 2016-08-06 16:10:53.348 door. 2016-08-06 16:10:57.373 It was also very surprising when 2016-08-06 16:10:57.389 It was also very surprising when 2016-08-06 16:11:00.422 we turned on the forest and it 2016-08-06 16:11:00.439 we turned on the forest and it 2016-08-06 16:11:02.425 was active with these different 2016-08-06 16:11:02.441 was active with these different 2016-08-06 16:11:03.422 neighborhood inhabitants. 2016-08-06 16:11:03.439 neighborhood inhabitants. 2016-08-06 16:11:07.499 That was the way we allowed kids 2016-08-06 16:11:07.516 That was the way we allowed kids 2016-08-06 16:11:08.54 who could only have a 15-minute 2016-08-06 16:11:08.557 who could only have a 15-minute 2016-08-06 16:11:10.542 experience up to kids that 2016-08-06 16:11:10.544 wanted to be there for 90 2016-08-06 16:11:10.559 experience up to kids that 2016-08-06 16:11:10.561 wanted to be there for 90 2016-08-06 16:11:11.544 minutes. 2016-08-06 16:11:11.561 minutes. 2016-08-06 16:11:14.623 Allow them to leave at their 2016-08-06 16:11:14.624 leisure. 2016-08-06 16:11:14.639 Allow them to leave at their 2016-08-06 16:11:14.641 leisure. 2016-08-06 16:11:19.663 That was the role 2016-08-06 16:11:19.664 she ended up 2016-08-06 16:11:19.665 playing. 2016-08-06 16:11:19.68 That was the role 2016-08-06 16:11:19.681 she ended up 2016-08-06 16:11:19.682 playing. 2016-08-06 16:11:21.662 She was the queen of the forest. 2016-08-06 16:11:21.679 She was the queen of the forest. 2016-08-06 16:11:24.665 You were told to find her when 2016-08-06 16:11:24.667 you are ready to leave. 2016-08-06 16:11:24.682 You were told to find her when 2016-08-06 16:11:24.683 you are ready to leave. 2016-08-06 16:11:26.664 She was always there. 2016-08-06 16:11:26.681 She was always there. 2016-08-06 16:11:28.664 That became our way to give them 2016-08-06 16:11:28.681 That became our way to give them 2016-08-06 16:11:33.712 an end 2016-08-06 16:11:33.729 an end 2016-08-06 16:11:35.788 so they got a culminating 2016-08-06 16:11:35.79 experience with a beginning and 2016-08-06 16:11:35.791 end. 2016-08-06 16:11:35.805 so they got a culminating 2016-08-06 16:11:35.807 experience with a beginning and 2016-08-06 16:11:35.808 end. 2016-08-06 16:11:39.788 It was based on the kid's timing 2016-08-06 16:11:39.789 and not our timing. 2016-08-06 16:11:39.804 It was based on the kid's timing 2016-08-06 16:11:39.806 and not our timing. 2016-08-06 16:11:41.869 It became interesting and a 2016-08-06 16:11:41.886 It became interesting and a 2016-08-06 16:11:42.87 great moment. 2016-08-06 16:11:42.887 great moment. 2016-08-06 16:11:46.871 We were excited the way people 2016-08-06 16:11:46.873 gravitated towards roles in the 2016-08-06 16:11:46.874 rehearsal process. 2016-08-06 16:11:46.888 We were excited the way people 2016-08-06 16:11:46.89 gravitated towards roles in the 2016-08-06 16:11:46.892 rehearsal process. 2016-08-06 16:11:48.871 That and she got to be queen. 2016-08-06 16:11:48.888 That and she got to be queen. 2016-08-06 16:11:49.87 That was a great moment for a 2016-08-06 16:11:49.887 That was a great moment for a 2016-08-06 16:11:54.913 lot of kids to look at her 2016-08-06 16:11:54.913 and 2016-08-06 16:11:54.915 realize they could be her if 2016-08-06 16:11:54.916 they wanted to. 2016-08-06 16:11:54.93 lot of kids to look at her 2016-08-06 16:11:54.93 and 2016-08-06 16:11:54.932 realize they could be her if 2016-08-06 16:11:54.933 they wanted to. 2016-08-06 16:11:56.914 That is something people thought 2016-08-06 16:11:56.931 That is something people thought 2016-08-06 16:11:57.914 was really great. 2016-08-06 16:11:57.931 was really great. 2016-08-06 16:11:59.915 Parents gave us feedback about 2016-08-06 16:11:59.917 that. 2016-08-06 16:11:59.932 Parents gave us feedback about 2016-08-06 16:11:59.934 that. 2016-08-06 16:12:03.913 We had an actor that have 2016-08-06 16:12:03.93 We had an actor that have 2016-08-06 16:12:05.967 discrete anecdote that she still 2016-08-06 16:12:05.984 discrete anecdote that she still 2016-08-06 16:12:07.963 cries about whenever she talks 2016-08-06 16:12:07.965 about it. 2016-08-06 16:12:07.981 cries about whenever she talks 2016-08-06 16:12:07.982 about it. 2016-08-06 16:12:09.963 We all had different, touching 2016-08-06 16:12:09.98 We all had different, touching 2016-08-06 16:12:12.963 experiences from the show. 2016-08-06 16:12:12.965 It is a touching thing. 2016-08-06 16:12:12.98 experiences from the show. 2016-08-06 16:12:12.982 It is a touching thing. 2016-08-06 16:12:16.965 What you see family members and 2016-08-06 16:12:16.982 What you see family members and 2016-08-06 16:12:18.968 audience members go through, it 2016-08-06 16:12:18.97 is a journey you are taking 2016-08-06 16:12:18.971 together. 2016-08-06 16:12:18.985 audience members go through, it 2016-08-06 16:12:18.987 is a journey you are taking 2016-08-06 16:12:18.988 together. 2016-08-06 16:12:20.997 It is intimate the entire time. 2016-08-06 16:12:21.014 It is intimate the entire time. 2016-08-06 16:12:22.995 You have to be listening the 2016-08-06 16:12:22.996 entire time. 2016-08-06 16:12:23.012 You have to be listening the 2016-08-06 16:12:23.017 entire time. 2016-08-06 16:12:25.039 We were overwhelmed in general 2016-08-06 16:12:25.056 We were overwhelmed in general 2016-08-06 16:12:29.134 by the feedback families had on 2016-08-06 16:12:29.137 the lack of programming and 2016-08-06 16:12:29.148 by the feedback families had on 2016-08-06 16:12:29.15 the lack of programming and 2016-08-06 16:12:30.167 options they have in general. 2016-08-06 16:12:30.184 options they have in general. 2016-08-06 16:12:33.247 They are happy you did anything 2016-08-06 16:12:33.248 at all. 2016-08-06 16:12:33.264 They are happy you did anything 2016-08-06 16:12:33.265 at all. 2016-08-06 16:12:36.246 The experience they had watching 2016-08-06 16:12:36.263 The experience they had watching 2016-08-06 16:12:39.244 their children play or do 2016-08-06 16:12:39.246 something they did not think 2016-08-06 16:12:39.261 their children play or do 2016-08-06 16:12:39.263 something they did not think 2016-08-06 16:12:42.245 they would do or even make it 90 2016-08-06 16:12:42.263 they would do or even make it 90 2016-08-06 16:12:46.247 minutes when they have not been 2016-08-06 16:12:46.249 more than 20 minutes anywhere in 2016-08-06 16:12:46.264 minutes when they have not been 2016-08-06 16:12:46.266 more than 20 minutes anywhere in 2016-08-06 16:12:49.244 their entire lives is deeply 2016-08-06 16:12:49.245 moving. 2016-08-06 16:12:49.261 their entire lives is deeply 2016-08-06 16:12:49.262 moving. 2016-08-06 16:12:55.286 Gail's favorite story 2016-08-06 16:12:55.287 is how we 2016-08-06 16:12:55.303 Gail's favorite story 2016-08-06 16:12:55.304 is how we 2016-08-06 16:12:58.294 had puppet characters we found 2016-08-06 16:12:58.311 had puppet characters we found 2016-08-06 16:13:01.33 through a variety of workshops 2016-08-06 16:13:01.332 that children gravitated more 2016-08-06 16:13:01.347 through a variety of workshops 2016-08-06 16:13:01.349 that children gravitated more 2016-08-06 16:13:05.33 easily to puppets than two 2016-08-06 16:13:05.347 easily to puppets than two 2016-08-06 16:13:06.329 people, particularly this 2016-08-06 16:13:06.33 community. 2016-08-06 16:13:06.346 people, particularly this 2016-08-06 16:13:06.347 community. 2016-08-06 16:13:10.331 It was the first character kids 2016-08-06 16:13:10.332 saw. 2016-08-06 16:13:10.346 It was the first character kids 2016-08-06 16:13:10.348 saw. 2016-08-06 16:13:14.33 There was a little girl that 2016-08-06 16:13:14.347 There was a little girl that 2016-08-06 16:13:15.331 came through the was very timid 2016-08-06 16:13:15.333 but absolutely in love with 2016-08-06 16:13:15.334 Simon. 2016-08-06 16:13:15.348 came through the was very timid 2016-08-06 16:13:15.35 but absolutely in love with 2016-08-06 16:13:15.351 Simon. 2016-08-06 16:13:20.37 Gail 2016-08-06 16:13:20.371 went throughout the expense 2016-08-06 16:13:20.387 Gail 2016-08-06 16:13:20.391 went throughout the expense 2016-08-06 16:13:22.369 with this child hugging her arm 2016-08-06 16:13:22.386 with this child hugging her arm 2016-08-06 16:13:24.369 for a solid hour. 2016-08-06 16:13:24.387 for a solid hour. 2016-08-06 16:13:28.369 As the show went on and Simon 2016-08-06 16:13:28.371 went with her into the forest, 2016-08-06 16:13:28.387 As the show went on and Simon 2016-08-06 16:13:28.389 went with her into the forest, 2016-08-06 16:13:30.371 she clutched more and more to 2016-08-06 16:13:30.388 she clutched more and more to 2016-08-06 16:13:32.368 this alpaca. 2016-08-06 16:13:32.386 this alpaca. 2016-08-06 16:13:34.371 Eventually, they all sang and 2016-08-06 16:13:34.388 Eventually, they all sang and 2016-08-06 16:13:36.414 danced in the forest green she 2016-08-06 16:13:36.431 danced in the forest green she 2016-08-06 16:13:38.512 got up and danced with Simon. 2016-08-06 16:13:38.529 got up and danced with Simon. 2016-08-06 16:13:40.539 There was a moment where the 2016-08-06 16:13:40.556 There was a moment where the 2016-08-06 16:13:44.585 girl was fine and she stepped 2016-08-06 16:13:44.587 back to allow her to engage with 2016-08-06 16:13:44.588 other kids. 2016-08-06 16:13:44.602 girl was fine and she stepped 2016-08-06 16:13:44.604 back to allow her to engage with 2016-08-06 16:13:44.605 other kids. 2016-08-06 16:13:46.621 The parents of the girl came 2016-08-06 16:13:46.639 The parents of the girl came 2016-08-06 16:13:52.713 over and mouthed to Gail 2016-08-06 16:13:52.714 "thank 2016-08-06 16:13:52.73 over and mouthed to Gail 2016-08-06 16:13:52.731 "thank 2016-08-06 16:13:53.712 you." 2016-08-06 16:13:53.729 you." 2016-08-06 16:13:55.714 She started to cry. 2016-08-06 16:13:55.732 She started to cry. 2016-08-06 16:13:57.789 The parents were emotional. 2016-08-06 16:13:57.806 The parents were emotional. 2016-08-06 16:13:59.789 The kind of experience for many 2016-08-06 16:13:59.806 The kind of experience for many 2016-08-06 16:14:03.787 parents was not the kind they 2016-08-06 16:14:03.789 had had in other spaces. 2016-08-06 16:14:03.805 parents was not the kind they 2016-08-06 16:14:03.806 had had in other spaces. 2016-08-06 16:14:07.834 It became clear to us this work 2016-08-06 16:14:07.851 It became clear to us this work 2016-08-06 16:14:10.923 if it is done intentionally, 2016-08-06 16:14:10.94 if it is done intentionally, 2016-08-06 16:14:12.997 even if you are afraid you will 2016-08-06 16:14:12.999 have a moment where you do 2016-08-06 16:14:13.014 even if you are afraid you will 2016-08-06 16:14:13.016 have a moment where you do 2016-08-06 16:14:15.045 something very stupid, if you do 2016-08-06 16:14:15.062 something very stupid, if you do 2016-08-06 16:14:20.083 it and try, parents 2016-08-06 16:14:20.084 are deeply 2016-08-06 16:14:20.085 moved by the fact you are doing 2016-08-06 16:14:20.1 it and try, parents 2016-08-06 16:14:20.101 are deeply 2016-08-06 16:14:20.107 moved by the fact you are doing 2016-08-06 16:14:23.085 anything at all, which is the 2016-08-06 16:14:23.091 unfortunate state of affairs 2016-08-06 16:14:23.092 right now. 2016-08-06 16:14:23.102 anything at all, which is the 2016-08-06 16:14:23.104 unfortunate state of affairs 2016-08-06 16:14:23.105 right now. 2016-08-06 16:14:26.221 That trying anything is 2016-08-06 16:14:26.222 applauded. 2016-08-06 16:14:26.238 That trying anything is 2016-08-06 16:14:26.239 applauded. 2016-08-06 16:14:29.272 But we found the reactions we 2016-08-06 16:14:29.289 But we found the reactions we 2016-08-06 16:14:30.29 had to this particular show 2016-08-06 16:14:30.308 had to this particular show 2016-08-06 16:14:31.288 compared to our other 2016-08-06 16:14:31.306 compared to our other 2016-08-06 16:14:36.29 immersives, while they are 2016-08-06 16:14:36.292 always moving, for this 2016-08-06 16:14:36.308 immersives, while they are 2016-08-06 16:14:36.309 always moving, for this 2016-08-06 16:14:38.33 community it was especially 2016-08-06 16:14:38.331 meaningful. 2016-08-06 16:14:38.347 community it was especially 2016-08-06 16:14:38.348 meaningful. 2016-08-06 16:14:42.329 David: Can you talk a little bit 2016-08-06 16:14:42.346 David: Can you talk a little bit 2016-08-06 16:14:45.591 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW 2016-08-06 16:14:45.608 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW 2016-08-06 16:14:50.6 FUN IT WAS TO BE THE QUEEN 2016-08-06 16:14:50.601 AND 2016-08-06 16:14:50.612 FUN IT WAS TO BE THE QUEEN AND 2016-08-06 16:14:51.592 ALSO ABOUT THE FILM PROJECT MY 2016-08-06 16:14:51.609 ALSO ABOUT THE FILM PROJECT MY 2016-08-06 16:14:53.593 THE OTHER EXPERIENCES YOU HAVE 2016-08-06 16:14:53.61 THE OTHER EXPERIENCES YOU HAVE 2016-08-06 16:14:54.596 HAD WITH THAT PERFORMING? 2016-08-06 16:14:54.613 HAD WITH THAT PERFORMING? 2016-08-06 16:14:58.632 AND YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU KIND OF 2016-08-06 16:14:58.634 MOVE FROM HERE? 2016-08-06 16:14:58.649 AND YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU KIND OF 2016-08-06 16:14:58.651 MOVE FROM HERE? 2016-08-06 16:15:01.681 DO YOU HAVE OTHER GOALS OR 2016-08-06 16:15:01.699 DO YOU HAVE OTHER GOALS OR 2016-08-06 16:15:02.722 THINGS YOU ARE LOOKING TO DO AS 2016-08-06 16:15:02.739 THINGS YOU ARE LOOKING TO DO AS 2016-08-06 16:15:03.721 A PERFORMER? 2016-08-06 16:15:03.739 A PERFORMER? 2016-08-06 16:15:09.722 VANYA: I MENTIONED 2016-08-06 16:15:09.722 BEFORE, WHAT 2016-08-06 16:15:09.739 VANYA: I MENTIONED 2016-08-06 16:15:09.74 BEFORE, WHAT 2016-08-06 16:15:11.722 I MENTIONED ABOUT INCLUSION 2016-08-06 16:15:11.739 I MENTIONED ABOUT INCLUSION 2016-08-06 16:15:14.722 FILMS, FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT 2016-08-06 16:15:14.724 KNOW. 2016-08-06 16:15:14.74 FILMS, FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT 2016-08-06 16:15:14.741 KNOW. 2016-08-06 16:15:20.722 I DO NOT KNOW WHO 2016-08-06 16:15:20.723 KNOWS. 2016-08-06 16:15:20.739 I DO NOT KNOW WHO 2016-08-06 16:15:20.74 KNOWS. 2016-08-06 16:15:23.772 THIS IS AN INCLUSIVE FILM STUDIO 2016-08-06 16:15:23.789 THIS IS AN INCLUSIVE FILM STUDIO 2016-08-06 16:15:25.771 RUN OUT OF BAKERSFIELD, 2016-08-06 16:15:25.788 RUN OUT OF BAKERSFIELD, 2016-08-06 16:15:28.772 CALIFORNIA. 2016-08-06 16:15:28.789 CALIFORNIA. 2016-08-06 16:15:29.766 THAT IS WHERE THE FILM SCHOOL 2016-08-06 16:15:29.768 IS. 2016-08-06 16:15:29.784 THAT IS WHERE THE FILM SCHOOL 2016-08-06 16:15:29.785 IS. 2016-08-06 16:15:35.824 AND IT IS A STUDIO MOSTLY 2016-08-06 16:15:35.824 FOR 2016-08-06 16:15:35.841 AND IT IS A STUDIO MOSTLY 2016-08-06 16:15:35.842 FOR 2016-08-06 16:15:39.821 PEOPLE ON THE SPECTRUM, ALTHOUGH 2016-08-06 16:15:39.838 PEOPLE ON THE SPECTRUM, ALTHOUGH 2016-08-06 16:15:41.827 THEY DO ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLE WITH 2016-08-06 16:15:41.844 THEY DO ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLE WITH 2016-08-06 16:15:42.931 DISABILITIES. 2016-08-06 16:15:42.948 DISABILITIES. 2016-08-06 16:15:46.852 AND I SPECIFICALLY HAVE ATTENDED 2016-08-06 16:15:46.87 AND I SPECIFICALLY HAVE ATTENDED 2016-08-06 16:15:53.019 THEIR FILM CAMP FOR A 30 YEAR 2016-08-06 16:15:53.02 -- 2016-08-06 16:15:53.037 THEIR FILM CAMP FOR A 30 YEAR 2016-08-06 16:15:53.038 -- 2016-08-06 16:15:57.023 FOR A THIRD YEAR NOW. 2016-08-06 16:15:57.025 AND IT IS FOR PEOPLE ON THE 2016-08-06 16:15:57.04 FOR A THIRD YEAR NOW. 2016-08-06 16:15:57.042 AND IT IS FOR PEOPLE ON THE 2016-08-06 16:15:59.025 SPECTRUM AND THOSE WITH A DOWN 2016-08-06 16:15:59.026 SYNDROME. 2016-08-06 16:15:59.043 SPECTRUM AND THOSE WITH A DOWN 2016-08-06 16:15:59.044 SYNDROME. 2016-08-06 16:16:02.02 THERE IS A TWO-WEEK LONG SUMMER 2016-08-06 16:16:02.038 THERE IS A TWO-WEEK LONG SUMMER 2016-08-06 16:16:04.02 PROGRAM AND OF THE GOAL IS TO 2016-08-06 16:16:04.038 PROGRAM AND OF THE GOAL IS TO 2016-08-06 16:16:06.024 GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 2016-08-06 16:16:06.042 GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 2016-08-06 16:16:09.025 CREATE A SHORT FILM IN THE SPAN 2016-08-06 16:16:09.042 CREATE A SHORT FILM IN THE SPAN 2016-08-06 16:16:11.072 OF THOSE TWO WEEKS AND TO LEARN 2016-08-06 16:16:11.09 OF THOSE TWO WEEKS AND TO LEARN 2016-08-06 16:16:15.145 ABOUT THE PROCESS OF FILMMAKING 2016-08-06 16:16:15.162 ABOUT THE PROCESS OF FILMMAKING 2016-08-06 16:16:16.142 AND THE FILMMAKING BUSINESS AND 2016-08-06 16:16:16.159 AND THE FILMMAKING BUSINESS AND 2016-08-06 16:16:18.183 HOPEFULLY TO EVENTUALLY GIVE 2016-08-06 16:16:18.2 HOPEFULLY TO EVENTUALLY GIVE 2016-08-06 16:16:23.272 THESE PEOPLE A LAUNCHING 2016-08-06 16:16:23.273 POINT 2016-08-06 16:16:23.289 THESE PEOPLE A LAUNCHING 2016-08-06 16:16:23.29 POINT 2016-08-06 16:16:25.272 TO HAVE A CAREER IN FILM OR IN 2016-08-06 16:16:25.289 TO HAVE A CAREER IN FILM OR IN 2016-08-06 16:16:29.352 THE ARTS, IN SOME MANNER, AND TO 2016-08-06 16:16:29.369 THE ARTS, IN SOME MANNER, AND TO 2016-08-06 16:16:31.351 GIVE THEM CONNECTIONS IF THAT IS 2016-08-06 16:16:31.369 GIVE THEM CONNECTIONS IF THAT IS 2016-08-06 16:16:32.351 WHAT THEY SO CHOOSE TO DO. 2016-08-06 16:16:32.368 WHAT THEY SO CHOOSE TO DO. 2016-08-06 16:16:35.392 SO I HAVE BEEN CAST IN A COUPLE 2016-08-06 16:16:35.409 SO I HAVE BEEN CAST IN A COUPLE 2016-08-06 16:16:38.522 OF THOSE FILMS SO FAR AND THAT 2016-08-06 16:16:38.539 OF THOSE FILMS SO FAR AND THAT 2016-08-06 16:16:40.571 HAS BEEN A LOT OF FUN. 2016-08-06 16:16:40.589 HAS BEEN A LOT OF FUN. 2016-08-06 16:16:45.604 AND OF COURSE, BRICOLAGE 2016-08-06 16:16:45.604 . 2016-08-06 16:16:45.621 AND OF COURSE, BRICOLAGE 2016-08-06 16:16:45.622 . 2016-08-06 16:16:50.641 OTHER THAN THAT AND 2016-08-06 16:16:50.642 WELCOME TO 2016-08-06 16:16:50.658 OTHER THAN THAT AND 2016-08-06 16:16:50.659 WELCOME TO 2016-08-06 16:16:52.641 HEAR, I HAVE NOT HAD EXPERIENCE 2016-08-06 16:16:52.658 HEAR, I HAVE NOT HAD EXPERIENCE 2016-08-06 16:16:53.637 IN THE ARTS, PROFESSIONALLY. 2016-08-06 16:16:53.654 IN THE ARTS, PROFESSIONALLY. 2016-08-06 16:16:55.68 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ARTISTIC IN 2016-08-06 16:16:55.681 GENERAL. 2016-08-06 16:16:55.698 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ARTISTIC IN 2016-08-06 16:16:55.699 GENERAL. 2016-08-06 16:16:58.771 IN VARIOUS AREAS. 2016-08-06 16:16:58.789 IN VARIOUS AREAS. 2016-08-06 16:17:01.821 BUT I HAVE NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, I 2016-08-06 16:17:01.839 BUT I HAVE NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, I 2016-08-06 16:17:03.821 HAVE NEVER BEEN PUBLISHED. 2016-08-06 16:17:03.838 HAVE NEVER BEEN PUBLISHED. 2016-08-06 16:17:04.821 MY WRITING HAS NEVER BEEN 2016-08-06 16:17:04.838 MY WRITING HAS NEVER BEEN 2016-08-06 16:17:06.855 PUBLISHED. 2016-08-06 16:17:06.872 PUBLISHED. 2016-08-06 16:17:08.855 THIS IS THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL 2016-08-06 16:17:08.875 THIS IS THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL 2016-08-06 16:17:10.852 ACTING PERFORMANCE I HAVE BEEN 2016-08-06 16:17:10.854 IN. 2016-08-06 16:17:10.87 ACTING PERFORMANCE I HAVE BEEN 2016-08-06 16:17:10.871 IN. 2016-08-06 16:17:12.851 THAT SORT OF THING. 2016-08-06 16:17:12.868 THAT SORT OF THING. 2016-08-06 16:17:21.972 I AM HOPING TO INTERN IN THE 2016-08-06 16:17:21.973 FUTURE. 2016-08-06 16:17:21.989 I AM HOPING TO INTERN IN THE 2016-08-06 16:17:21.99 FUTURE. 2016-08-06 16:17:35.073 I am hoping to go on and do more 2016-08-06 16:17:35.09 I am hoping to go on and do more 2016-08-06 16:17:38.071 advocacy in the future in 2016-08-06 16:17:38.073 various areas. 2016-08-06 16:17:38.089 advocacy in the future in 2016-08-06 16:17:38.09 various areas. 2016-08-06 16:17:41.071 Not just in the disability 2016-08-06 16:17:41.073 community. 2016-08-06 16:17:41.089 Not just in the disability 2016-08-06 16:17:41.09 community. 2016-08-06 16:17:44.078 Other than that, I do not have 2016-08-06 16:17:44.095 Other than that, I do not have 2016-08-06 16:17:49.1 much plans, just because 2016-08-06 16:17:49.101 it is 2016-08-06 16:17:49.118 much plans, just because 2016-08-06 16:17:49.118 it is 2016-08-06 16:17:50.101 extremely difficult, especially 2016-08-06 16:17:50.118 extremely difficult, especially 2016-08-06 16:17:52.141 for a young disabled person to 2016-08-06 16:17:52.159 for a young disabled person to 2016-08-06 16:17:56.221 try to get into the arts, 2016-08-06 16:17:56.222 professionally. 2016-08-06 16:17:56.239 try to get into the arts, 2016-08-06 16:17:56.24 professionally. 2016-08-06 16:18:00.235 Particularly with, and this is a 2016-08-06 16:18:00.252 Particularly with, and this is a 2016-08-06 16:18:02.222 tangent, but I am on disability 2016-08-06 16:18:02.239 tangent, but I am on disability 2016-08-06 16:18:06.221 payment, disability benefits, so 2016-08-06 16:18:06.239 payment, disability benefits, so 2016-08-06 16:18:08.222 it is difficult for me to be in 2016-08-06 16:18:08.238 it is difficult for me to be in 2016-08-06 16:18:10.273 the arts professionally at all, 2016-08-06 16:18:10.291 the arts professionally at all, 2016-08-06 16:18:13.28 because it would affect that 2016-08-06 16:18:13.282 significantly and I cannot 2016-08-06 16:18:13.298 because it would affect that 2016-08-06 16:18:13.299 significantly and I cannot 2016-08-06 16:18:16.293 affect to have that -- I cannot 2016-08-06 16:18:16.311 affect to have that -- I cannot 2016-08-06 16:18:17.274 afford to have that affected. 2016-08-06 16:18:17.292 afford to have that affected. 2016-08-06 16:18:23.351 David: these are 2016-08-06 16:18:23.369 David: these are 2016-08-06 16:18:24.346 things that are 2016-08-06 16:18:24.348 community has to deal with. 2016-08-06 16:18:24.364 things that are 2016-08-06 16:18:24.366 community has to deal with. 2016-08-06 16:18:26.353 There are a lot of other things 2016-08-06 16:18:26.354 going on. 2016-08-06 16:18:26.37 There are a lot of other things 2016-08-06 16:18:26.371 going on. 2016-08-06 16:18:30.351 I would also like to talk, 2016-08-06 16:18:30.369 I would also like to talk, 2016-08-06 16:18:33.351 Jackie, about -- we were talking 2016-08-06 16:18:33.368 Jackie, about -- we were talking 2016-08-06 16:18:35.353 about this broad learning 2016-08-06 16:18:35.371 about this broad learning 2016-08-06 16:18:37.352 experience you have had and sort 2016-08-06 16:18:37.369 experience you have had and sort 2016-08-06 16:18:40.393 of where at times we start an 2016-08-06 16:18:40.41 of where at times we start an 2016-08-06 16:18:43.392 initiative at times and we need 2016-08-06 16:18:43.41 initiative at times and we need 2016-08-06 16:18:45.392 to be specific and make it a 2016-08-06 16:18:45.41 to be specific and make it a 2016-08-06 16:18:49.39 disability engagement. 2016-08-06 16:18:49.408 disability engagement. 2016-08-06 16:18:52.39 And we learn, just by creating 2016-08-06 16:18:52.408 And we learn, just by creating 2016-08-06 16:18:53.392 this opportunity, it opens up a 2016-08-06 16:18:53.415 this opportunity, it opens up a 2016-08-06 16:18:55.391 much broader universal 2016-08-06 16:18:55.41 much broader universal 2016-08-06 16:18:56.393 experience. 2016-08-06 16:18:56.411 experience. 2016-08-06 16:18:58.391 Can you talk about the radio 2016-08-06 16:18:58.409 Can you talk about the radio 2016-08-06 16:19:01.391 play project that you guys do 2016-08-06 16:19:01.408 play project that you guys do 2016-08-06 16:19:04.431 and the sort of how you started 2016-08-06 16:19:04.45 and the sort of how you started 2016-08-06 16:19:05.431 a very specific initiative that 2016-08-06 16:19:05.449 a very specific initiative that 2016-08-06 16:19:08.43 was disability specific, then 2016-08-06 16:19:08.447 was disability specific, then 2016-08-06 16:19:10.431 ultimately learned that there is 2016-08-06 16:19:10.449 ultimately learned that there is 2016-08-06 16:19:12.429 broader appeal to it? 2016-08-06 16:19:12.447 broader appeal to it? 2016-08-06 16:19:15.429 Jackie: absolutely. 2016-08-06 16:19:15.447 Jackie: absolutely. 2016-08-06 16:19:19.43 A lot of our work started with 2016-08-06 16:19:19.448 A lot of our work started with 2016-08-06 16:19:22.438 what we learned here at lead. 2016-08-06 16:19:22.455 what we learned here at lead. 2016-08-06 16:19:24.48 I went and I took all of the 2016-08-06 16:19:24.498 I went and I took all of the 2016-08-06 16:19:26.482 basic tracks, because I felt 2016-08-06 16:19:26.499 basic tracks, because I felt 2016-08-06 16:19:28.482 like I knew nothing and I was 2016-08-06 16:19:28.499 like I knew nothing and I was 2016-08-06 16:19:30.481 terrified to be here and I do 2016-08-06 16:19:30.499 terrified to be here and I do 2016-08-06 16:19:35.481 not know -- and I did not know 2016-08-06 16:19:35.482 what to do. 2016-08-06 16:19:35.498 not know -- and I did not know 2016-08-06 16:19:35.5 what to do. 2016-08-06 16:19:38.474 But the Pittsburgh Mafia said it 2016-08-06 16:19:38.492 But the Pittsburgh Mafia said it 2016-08-06 16:19:40.48 was OK to not know and to just 2016-08-06 16:19:40.481 learn. 2016-08-06 16:19:40.498 was OK to not know and to just 2016-08-06 16:19:40.5 learn. 2016-08-06 16:19:42.479 And that is where it started. 2016-08-06 16:19:42.498 And that is where it started. 2016-08-06 16:19:45.479 One thing I lied about was 2016-08-06 16:19:45.497 One thing I lied about was 2016-08-06 16:19:48.483 sensory -- learned about was 2016-08-06 16:19:48.484 sensory workshops. 2016-08-06 16:19:48.5 sensory -- learned about was 2016-08-06 16:19:48.502 sensory workshops. 2016-08-06 16:19:52.481 We have a 1940's radio format 2016-08-06 16:19:52.498 We have a 1940's radio format 2016-08-06 16:19:54.481 called "midnight radio." 2016-08-06 16:19:54.498 called "midnight radio." 2016-08-06 16:19:59.481 We tell the audience members to 2016-08-06 16:19:59.482 close their eyes and enjoy good 2016-08-06 16:19:59.502 We tell the audience members to 2016-08-06 16:19:59.505 close their eyes and enjoy good 2016-08-06 16:20:03.48 and we do the side effects -- 2016-08-06 16:20:03.481 enjoy. 2016-08-06 16:20:03.498 and we do the side effects -- 2016-08-06 16:20:03.499 enjoy. 2016-08-06 16:20:06.571 It would do the side effects 2016-08-06 16:20:06.588 It would do the side effects 2016-08-06 16:20:10.584 with props -- sound effects with 2016-08-06 16:20:10.585 roles. 2016-08-06 16:20:10.601 with props -- sound effects with 2016-08-06 16:20:10.603 roles. 2016-08-06 16:20:11.57 If you do not want to be an 2016-08-06 16:20:11.587 If you do not want to be an 2016-08-06 16:20:15.581 immersive theater piece you can 2016-08-06 16:20:15.599 immersive theater piece you can 2016-08-06 16:20:17.573 still come and be part of the 2016-08-06 16:20:17.574 show. 2016-08-06 16:20:17.591 still come and be part of the 2016-08-06 16:20:17.592 show. 2016-08-06 16:20:20.573 We started doing these sensory 2016-08-06 16:20:20.591 We started doing these sensory 2016-08-06 16:20:21.57 workshops where we would give 2016-08-06 16:20:21.588 workshops where we would give 2016-08-06 16:20:24.6 you the full props and allow you 2016-08-06 16:20:24.618 you the full props and allow you 2016-08-06 16:20:25.6 to create a scene. 2016-08-06 16:20:25.618 to create a scene. 2016-08-06 16:20:29.602 And after a year, we at -- we 2016-08-06 16:20:29.62 And after a year, we at -- we 2016-08-06 16:20:30.601 realized we do not need to call 2016-08-06 16:20:30.619 realized we do not need to call 2016-08-06 16:20:32.699 them sensory workshops I'm a 2016-08-06 16:20:32.716 them sensory workshops I'm a 2016-08-06 16:20:35.731 anybody could come -- workshops, 2016-08-06 16:20:35.732 anybody could come. 2016-08-06 16:20:35.749 anybody could come -- workshops, 2016-08-06 16:20:35.75 anybody could come. 2016-08-06 16:20:37.73 We do not need to market to a 2016-08-06 16:20:37.748 We do not need to market to a 2016-08-06 16:20:39.731 certain community. 2016-08-06 16:20:39.749 certain community. 2016-08-06 16:20:41.732 Lots of people could benefit 2016-08-06 16:20:41.733 from that. 2016-08-06 16:20:41.75 Lots of people could benefit 2016-08-06 16:20:41.751 from that. 2016-08-06 16:20:44.731 It was not only cutting the 2016-08-06 16:20:44.748 It was not only cutting the 2016-08-06 16:20:45.731 audience, but ensuring that only 2016-08-06 16:20:45.748 audience, but ensuring that only 2016-08-06 16:20:47.731 those people came and there was 2016-08-06 16:20:47.748 those people came and there was 2016-08-06 16:20:49.736 no audience integration. 2016-08-06 16:20:49.754 no audience integration. 2016-08-06 16:20:53.772 So we called it a fully workshop 2016-08-06 16:20:53.79 So we called it a fully workshop 2016-08-06 16:20:56.771 and we started getting students. 2016-08-06 16:20:56.773 We got a lot more people who 2016-08-06 16:20:56.789 and we started getting students. 2016-08-06 16:20:56.791 We got a lot more people who 2016-08-06 16:21:00.821 came and were interested in what 2016-08-06 16:21:00.839 came and were interested in what 2016-08-06 16:21:01.82 it was and how to use it and 2016-08-06 16:21:01.837 it was and how to use it and 2016-08-06 16:21:03.822 wanting to re-create a thing, so 2016-08-06 16:21:03.839 wanting to re-create a thing, so 2016-08-06 16:21:06.827 right after they could hear the 2016-08-06 16:21:06.845 right after they could hear the 2016-08-06 16:21:08.823 moment they had already created 2016-08-06 16:21:08.825 and they could remember, there 2016-08-06 16:21:08.841 moment they had already created 2016-08-06 16:21:08.843 and they could remember, there 2016-08-06 16:21:11.821 is the basketball, there is the 2016-08-06 16:21:11.838 is the basketball, there is the 2016-08-06 16:21:13.82 squeaky shoes I know these 2016-08-06 16:21:13.837 squeaky shoes I know these 2016-08-06 16:21:14.82 sounds. 2016-08-06 16:21:14.838 sounds. 2016-08-06 16:21:17.86 And we experience the same thing 2016-08-06 16:21:17.878 And we experience the same thing 2016-08-06 16:21:18.851 with welcome to hear. 2016-08-06 16:21:18.868 with welcome to hear. 2016-08-06 16:21:22.852 We had a safe space for the 2016-08-06 16:21:22.853 show. 2016-08-06 16:21:22.87 We had a safe space for the 2016-08-06 16:21:22.871 show. 2016-08-06 16:21:23.85 We do not have a lot of kids 2016-08-06 16:21:23.868 We do not have a lot of kids 2016-08-06 16:21:27.861 with autism that used it, but we 2016-08-06 16:21:27.863 did find that we needed it for a 2016-08-06 16:21:27.879 with autism that used it, but we 2016-08-06 16:21:27.881 did find that we needed it for a 2016-08-06 16:21:29.861 lot of other things, parents 2016-08-06 16:21:29.878 lot of other things, parents 2016-08-06 16:21:32.859 with babies, somebody who needed 2016-08-06 16:21:32.878 with babies, somebody who needed 2016-08-06 16:21:34.859 a moment to take a personal 2016-08-06 16:21:34.876 a moment to take a personal 2016-08-06 16:21:36.862 phone call and we gave priority, 2016-08-06 16:21:36.879 phone call and we gave priority, 2016-08-06 16:21:37.859 of course, to those who had 2016-08-06 16:21:37.877 of course, to those who had 2016-08-06 16:21:40.9 autism and needed a moment. 2016-08-06 16:21:40.918 autism and needed a moment. 2016-08-06 16:21:41.902 But we found by creating these 2016-08-06 16:21:41.92 But we found by creating these 2016-08-06 16:21:44.902 things and not saying this is 2016-08-06 16:21:44.92 things and not saying this is 2016-08-06 16:21:45.899 only for a certain group of 2016-08-06 16:21:45.918 only for a certain group of 2016-08-06 16:21:47.902 people, this was a way that we 2016-08-06 16:21:47.923 people, this was a way that we 2016-08-06 16:21:50.901 found that is an interesting 2016-08-06 16:21:50.918 found that is an interesting 2016-08-06 16:21:52.905 incorporation of the element of 2016-08-06 16:21:52.922 incorporation of the element of 2016-08-06 16:21:53.901 universal design. 2016-08-06 16:21:53.918 universal design. 2016-08-06 16:21:55.9 Elevators help everybody. 2016-08-06 16:21:55.917 Elevators help everybody. 2016-08-06 16:21:57.9 We are trying to discover what 2016-08-06 16:21:57.918 We are trying to discover what 2016-08-06 16:21:58.901 that looks like across the 2016-08-06 16:21:58.919 that looks like across the 2016-08-06 16:22:00.9 different programs, asking 2016-08-06 16:22:00.917 different programs, asking 2016-08-06 16:22:01.901 people what they want and what 2016-08-06 16:22:01.919 people what they want and what 2016-08-06 16:22:03.942 makes sense to them and trying 2016-08-06 16:22:03.96 makes sense to them and trying 2016-08-06 16:22:06.94 to keep in mind that we are not 2016-08-06 16:22:06.958 to keep in mind that we are not 2016-08-06 16:22:09.939 interested in a special night 2016-08-06 16:22:09.957 interested in a special night 2016-08-06 16:22:11.94 for a special group of people to 2016-08-06 16:22:11.942 come to the theater, but finding 2016-08-06 16:22:11.958 for a special group of people to 2016-08-06 16:22:11.959 come to the theater, but finding 2016-08-06 16:22:15.941 ways to make choices that mean 2016-08-06 16:22:15.959 ways to make choices that mean 2016-08-06 16:22:18.98 that everybody, or most people, 2016-08-06 16:22:18.997 that everybody, or most people, 2016-08-06 16:22:20.98 can be invited and welcome and 2016-08-06 16:22:20.998 can be invited and welcome and 2016-08-06 16:22:22.979 talk to all the people that are 2016-08-06 16:22:23.013 talk to all the people that are 2016-08-06 16:22:23.98 there and not be segregated into 2016-08-06 16:22:23.998 there and not be segregated into 2016-08-06 16:22:25.982 this different audience section 2016-08-06 16:22:25.999 this different audience section 2016-08-06 16:22:29.982 that only gets to do so for an 2016-08-06 16:22:30 that only gets to do so for an 2016-08-06 16:22:30.982 -- only gets to do certain 2016-08-06 16:22:30.999 -- only gets to do certain 2016-08-06 16:22:31.979 things or have certain moments. 2016-08-06 16:22:31.997 things or have certain moments. 2016-08-06 16:22:33.981 David: speaking to universal 2016-08-06 16:22:33.998 David: speaking to universal 2016-08-06 16:22:36.979 design and integration of 2016-08-06 16:22:36.997 design and integration of 2016-08-06 16:22:39.98 inclusion in general, 2016-08-06 16:22:39.998 inclusion in general, 2016-08-06 16:22:43.979 specifically with the theater, 2016-08-06 16:22:43.997 specifically with the theater, 2016-08-06 16:22:47.979 Bricolage, can you talk about 2016-08-06 16:22:47.996 Bricolage, can you talk about 2016-08-06 16:22:49.034 how this has affected how you 2016-08-06 16:22:49.048 how this has affected how you 2016-08-06 16:22:51.061 approach your work now and your 2016-08-06 16:22:51.079 approach your work now and your 2016-08-06 16:22:56.029 belief in terms of how, how you 2016-08-06 16:22:56.047 belief in terms of how, how you 2016-08-06 16:22:59.034 can use those concepts of 2016-08-06 16:22:59.052 can use those concepts of 2016-08-06 16:23:00.031 universal design, especially in 2016-08-06 16:23:00.048 universal design, especially in 2016-08-06 16:23:01.082 the style of work that you do, 2016-08-06 16:23:01.1 the style of work that you do, 2016-08-06 16:23:04.078 because you are moving, 2016-08-06 16:23:04.096 because you are moving, 2016-08-06 16:23:05.08 traveling, you are sometimes in 2016-08-06 16:23:05.098 traveling, you are sometimes in 2016-08-06 16:23:07.08 specific places. 2016-08-06 16:23:07.098 specific places. 2016-08-06 16:23:09.08 How you can begin to use that 2016-08-06 16:23:09.098 How you can begin to use that 2016-08-06 16:23:13.082 terminology and the lesson of 2016-08-06 16:23:13.099 terminology and the lesson of 2016-08-06 16:23:15.08 broader engagement, just into 2016-08-06 16:23:15.098 broader engagement, just into 2016-08-06 16:23:18.114 your future work. 2016-08-06 16:23:18.131 your future work. 2016-08-06 16:23:22.111 Vanya: one thing we learned -- 2016-08-06 16:23:22.129 Vanya: one thing we learned -- 2016-08-06 16:23:26.11 Jackie: one thing we learned, 2016-08-06 16:23:26.128 Jackie: one thing we learned, 2016-08-06 16:23:27.13 one of the moments when we sat 2016-08-06 16:23:27.148 one of the moments when we sat 2016-08-06 16:23:32.112 down with vanya, and she asked, 2016-08-06 16:23:32.13 down with vanya, and she asked, 2016-08-06 16:23:33.15 why are you doing it this way? 2016-08-06 16:23:33.168 why are you doing it this way? 2016-08-06 16:23:37.2 Previously, the immersive pieces 2016-08-06 16:23:37.218 Previously, the immersive pieces 2016-08-06 16:23:38.192 were very mathematical 2016-08-06 16:23:38.21 were very mathematical 2016-08-06 16:23:41.19 experiences on the backend. 2016-08-06 16:23:41.208 experiences on the backend. 2016-08-06 16:23:43.191 We know exactly where you are 2016-08-06 16:23:43.21 We know exactly where you are 2016-08-06 16:23:45.192 and how long the experience will 2016-08-06 16:23:45.21 and how long the experience will 2016-08-06 16:23:46.189 take with a certain number of 2016-08-06 16:23:46.207 take with a certain number of 2016-08-06 16:23:48.193 minutes of variation and we've 2016-08-06 16:23:48.211 minutes of variation and we've 2016-08-06 16:23:49.19 eyes in the sky that are 2016-08-06 16:23:49.217 eyes in the sky that are 2016-08-06 16:23:51.192 monitoring you and everything 2016-08-06 16:23:51.21 monitoring you and everything 2016-08-06 16:23:54.243 must be on time, in order for 2016-08-06 16:23:54.246 that to work. 2016-08-06 16:23:54.258 must be on time, in order for 2016-08-06 16:23:54.259 that to work. 2016-08-06 16:23:56.239 There were two things that were 2016-08-06 16:23:56.257 There were two things that were 2016-08-06 16:23:59.234 different in this scenario, we 2016-08-06 16:23:59.235 were dealing with people that 2016-08-06 16:23:59.252 different in this scenario, we 2016-08-06 16:23:59.253 were dealing with people that 2016-08-06 16:24:01.24 wanted to be on their own 2016-08-06 16:24:01.258 wanted to be on their own 2016-08-06 16:24:05.24 schedules, not just because they 2016-08-06 16:24:05.258 schedules, not just because they 2016-08-06 16:24:06.24 may have autism, but they are 2016-08-06 16:24:06.242 children. 2016-08-06 16:24:06.258 may have autism, but they are 2016-08-06 16:24:06.26 children. 2016-08-06 16:24:08.239 And you cannot tell children 2016-08-06 16:24:08.257 And you cannot tell children 2016-08-06 16:24:09.24 where to go or how long to play 2016-08-06 16:24:09.258 where to go or how long to play 2016-08-06 16:24:10.241 with something. 2016-08-06 16:24:10.258 with something. 2016-08-06 16:24:13.241 So we had to completely change 2016-08-06 16:24:13.243 everything. 2016-08-06 16:24:13.259 So we had to completely change 2016-08-06 16:24:13.26 everything. 2016-08-06 16:24:16.24 We were on a grid system with 2016-08-06 16:24:16.257 We were on a grid system with 2016-08-06 16:24:17.235 the show, saying you would be in 2016-08-06 16:24:17.253 the show, saying you would be in 2016-08-06 16:24:20.244 this room for five minutes, and 2016-08-06 16:24:20.262 this room for five minutes, and 2016-08-06 16:24:22.242 then you would be taken for 2016-08-06 16:24:22.26 then you would be taken for 2016-08-06 16:24:24.24 about three minutes, and it took 2016-08-06 16:24:24.257 about three minutes, and it took 2016-08-06 16:24:27.24 us maybe one day to test and 2016-08-06 16:24:27.257 us maybe one day to test and 2016-08-06 16:24:28.239 realize that this was a mess. 2016-08-06 16:24:28.257 realize that this was a mess. 2016-08-06 16:24:32.239 So, we also had a moment with 2016-08-06 16:24:32.257 So, we also had a moment with 2016-08-06 16:24:35.239 Vanya where we had the script 2016-08-06 16:24:35.257 Vanya where we had the script 2016-08-06 16:24:36.24 completed and we read through it 2016-08-06 16:24:36.257 completed and we read through it 2016-08-06 16:24:39.241 and we did the table read and it 2016-08-06 16:24:39.259 and we did the table read and it 2016-08-06 16:24:43.28 is one of those things that 2016-08-06 16:24:43.298 is one of those things that 2016-08-06 16:24:45.33 endeared me to her and she said, 2016-08-06 16:24:45.349 endeared me to her and she said, 2016-08-06 16:24:46.33 I thought this was for people 2016-08-06 16:24:46.348 I thought this was for people 2016-08-06 16:24:50.333 with autism spectrum disorders. 2016-08-06 16:24:50.351 with autism spectrum disorders. 2016-08-06 16:24:51.339 There are a lot of words in the 2016-08-06 16:24:51.357 There are a lot of words in the 2016-08-06 16:24:52.381 script. 2016-08-06 16:24:52.382 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 16:24:52.399 script. 2016-08-06 16:24:52.401 [LAUGHTER] 2016-08-06 16:24:56.379 Jackie: and we were like, yeah, 2016-08-06 16:24:56.399 Jackie: and we were like, yeah, 2016-08-06 16:24:59.374 that is how you write a script. 2016-08-06 16:24:59.392 that is how you write a script. 2016-08-06 16:25:01.4 The end result was, it took a 2016-08-06 16:25:01.418 The end result was, it took a 2016-08-06 16:25:05.44 lot of killing our darlings and 2016-08-06 16:25:05.442 throwing out the ego and 2016-08-06 16:25:05.458 lot of killing our darlings and 2016-08-06 16:25:05.46 throwing out the ego and 2016-08-06 16:25:07.44 listening to what she was 2016-08-06 16:25:07.458 listening to what she was 2016-08-06 16:25:12.45 saying, because she was not just 2016-08-06 16:25:12.452 speaking for herself, but she 2016-08-06 16:25:12.468 saying, because she was not just 2016-08-06 16:25:12.469 speaking for herself, but she 2016-08-06 16:25:13.45 was speaking for her brothers 2016-08-06 16:25:13.468 was speaking for her brothers 2016-08-06 16:25:15.449 who would come through, and she 2016-08-06 16:25:15.466 who would come through, and she 2016-08-06 16:25:17.451 could experience our show just 2016-08-06 16:25:17.469 could experience our show just 2016-08-06 16:25:19.45 fine, and she knew that her 2016-08-06 16:25:19.468 fine, and she knew that her 2016-08-06 16:25:21.45 brother would come in and hear 2016-08-06 16:25:21.468 brother would come in and hear 2016-08-06 16:25:23.451 all of these words and perhaps 2016-08-06 16:25:23.453 shut down. 2016-08-06 16:25:23.469 all of these words and perhaps 2016-08-06 16:25:23.47 shut down. 2016-08-06 16:25:25.45 So we ended up with a character 2016-08-06 16:25:25.468 So we ended up with a character 2016-08-06 16:25:28.502 that was nonverbal that was met 2016-08-06 16:25:28.52 that was nonverbal that was met 2016-08-06 16:25:29.49 with rave reviews from the 2016-08-06 16:25:29.508 with rave reviews from the 2016-08-06 16:25:31.49 parents and that was due to her 2016-08-06 16:25:31.508 parents and that was due to her 2016-08-06 16:25:32.489 feedback. 2016-08-06 16:25:32.506 feedback. 2016-08-06 16:25:35.487 We threw out the grid approach, 2016-08-06 16:25:35.504 We threw out the grid approach, 2016-08-06 16:25:37.491 altogether and I am generally 2016-08-06 16:25:37.519 altogether and I am generally 2016-08-06 16:25:39.49 curious to see what next year's 2016-08-06 16:25:39.508 curious to see what next year's 2016-08-06 16:25:42.493 immersive will become a great 2016-08-06 16:25:42.507 immersive will become a great 2016-08-06 16:25:45.487 experience, something that can 2016-08-06 16:25:45.489 be times, but also have an 2016-08-06 16:25:45.505 experience, something that can 2016-08-06 16:25:45.507 be times, but also have an 2016-08-06 16:25:48.529 untimed component, it is a 2016-08-06 16:25:48.547 untimed component, it is a 2016-08-06 16:25:49.529 completely different way of 2016-08-06 16:25:49.547 completely different way of 2016-08-06 16:25:50.579 building it and it makes 2016-08-06 16:25:50.597 building it and it makes 2016-08-06 16:25:52.581 complete sense. 2016-08-06 16:25:52.598 complete sense. 2016-08-06 16:25:57.629 When you're in it, it was a duh 2016-08-06 16:25:57.63 moment for her. 2016-08-06 16:25:57.647 When you're in it, it was a duh 2016-08-06 16:25:57.648 moment for her. 2016-08-06 16:26:00.632 And that is the story of this, 2016-08-06 16:26:00.65 And that is the story of this, 2016-08-06 16:26:02.632 we are set in our ways of 2016-08-06 16:26:02.65 we are set in our ways of 2016-08-06 16:26:05.631 approach and the ego gets in the 2016-08-06 16:26:05.632 way and we are not listening. 2016-08-06 16:26:05.649 approach and the ego gets in the 2016-08-06 16:26:05.65 way and we are not listening. 2016-08-06 16:26:07.631 So we took that notes in a big 2016-08-06 16:26:07.648 So we took that notes in a big 2016-08-06 16:26:12.649 way -- 2016-08-06 16:26:12.65 note in a big way. 2016-08-06 16:26:12.667 way -- 2016-08-06 16:26:12.668 note in a big way. 2016-08-06 16:26:15.702 And now we are thinking, when we 2016-08-06 16:26:15.72 And now we are thinking, when we 2016-08-06 16:26:17.702 do everything, we ask the 2016-08-06 16:26:17.72 do everything, we ask the 2016-08-06 16:26:18.702 question, who are we excluding? 2016-08-06 16:26:18.72 question, who are we excluding? 2016-08-06 16:26:20.699 What is the barrier? 2016-08-06 16:26:20.717 What is the barrier? 2016-08-06 16:26:23.7 Is it within my resources to 2016-08-06 16:26:23.718 Is it within my resources to 2016-08-06 16:26:25.7 remove that barrier, or is it up 2016-08-06 16:26:25.718 remove that barrier, or is it up 2016-08-06 16:26:30.699 to me that -- to me to own the 2016-08-06 16:26:30.7 barrier? 2016-08-06 16:26:30.717 to me that -- to me to own the 2016-08-06 16:26:30.718 barrier? 2016-08-06 16:26:33.699 David: right. 2016-08-06 16:26:33.717 David: right. 2016-08-06 16:26:40.739 In terms of that inclusive 2016-08-06 16:26:40.74 -- or 2016-08-06 16:26:40.757 In terms of that inclusive 2016-08-06 16:26:40.758 -- or 2016-08-06 16:26:42.739 thinking, how -- who am I 2016-08-06 16:26:42.756 thinking, how -- who am I 2016-08-06 16:26:43.744 excluding? 2016-08-06 16:26:43.762 excluding? 2016-08-06 16:26:45.739 The lessons learned by 2016-08-06 16:26:45.757 The lessons learned by 2016-08-06 16:26:47.744 integrating a performer with a 2016-08-06 16:26:47.758 integrating a performer with a 2016-08-06 16:26:51.739 disability can be overly used in 2016-08-06 16:26:51.741 the future in ways you may not 2016-08-06 16:26:51.758 disability can be overly used in 2016-08-06 16:26:51.76 the future in ways you may not 2016-08-06 16:26:52.738 even imagine now. 2016-08-06 16:26:52.756 even imagine now. 2016-08-06 16:26:55.742 So, just another question for 2016-08-06 16:26:55.76 So, just another question for 2016-08-06 16:26:58.778 both of you, and I think we have 2016-08-06 16:26:58.796 both of you, and I think we have 2016-08-06 16:27:01.781 sort of asked to this with most 2016-08-06 16:27:01.799 sort of asked to this with most 2016-08-06 16:27:02.78 of the interviews, what advice 2016-08-06 16:27:02.798 of the interviews, what advice 2016-08-06 16:27:04.779 would you give to performing 2016-08-06 16:27:04.797 would you give to performing 2016-08-06 16:27:08.778 arts organizations, specifically 2016-08-06 16:27:08.796 arts organizations, specifically 2016-08-06 16:27:13.779 in ways of including artists 2016-08-06 16:27:13.781 with disabilities and making 2016-08-06 16:27:13.798 in ways of including artists 2016-08-06 16:27:13.8 with disabilities and making 2016-08-06 16:27:15.78 that accommodation? 2016-08-06 16:27:15.798 that accommodation? 2016-08-06 16:27:19.84 In the rewards -- and the 2016-08-06 16:27:19.858 In the rewards -- and the 2016-08-06 16:27:20.827 rewards of that? 2016-08-06 16:27:20.845 rewards of that? 2016-08-06 16:27:23.879 And some of the challenges you 2016-08-06 16:27:23.897 And some of the challenges you 2016-08-06 16:27:25.879 may have overcome, or you may 2016-08-06 16:27:25.897 may have overcome, or you may 2016-08-06 16:27:27.879 have thought would be talented, 2016-08-06 16:27:27.897 have thought would be talented, 2016-08-06 16:27:31.879 yet, you know, maybe they were 2016-08-06 16:27:31.898 yet, you know, maybe they were 2016-08-06 16:27:32.879 not. 2016-08-06 16:27:32.898 not. 2016-08-06 16:27:35.878 And long you, as a performer -- 2016-08-06 16:27:35.896 And long you, as a performer -- 2016-08-06 16:27:40.907 vany 2016-08-06 16:27:40.908 a, as a performer, any 2016-08-06 16:27:40.925 vany 2016-08-06 16:27:40.926 a, as a performer, any 2016-08-06 16:27:43.989 advice you would like to share 2016-08-06 16:27:44.007 advice you would like to share 2016-08-06 16:27:45.028 for organizations. 2016-08-06 16:27:45.047 for organizations. 2016-08-06 16:27:50.042 Vanya: I 2016-08-06 16:27:50.06 Vanya: I 2016-08-06 16:27:51.029 suppose that the most 2016-08-06 16:27:51.047 suppose that the most 2016-08-06 16:27:54.042 important advice, reiterating 2016-08-06 16:27:54.06 important advice, reiterating 2016-08-06 16:27:57.03 what has been said, ask and 2016-08-06 16:27:57.031 listen. 2016-08-06 16:27:57.048 what has been said, ask and 2016-08-06 16:27:57.049 listen. 2016-08-06 16:28:02.03 Because really, if you are going 2016-08-06 16:28:02.048 Because really, if you are going 2016-08-06 16:28:04.08 to be creating a piece for a 2016-08-06 16:28:04.098 to be creating a piece for a 2016-08-06 16:28:06.079 specific community, or if you 2016-08-06 16:28:06.097 specific community, or if you 2016-08-06 16:28:08.129 are going to be having people 2016-08-06 16:28:08.147 are going to be having people 2016-08-06 16:28:10.13 from a specific community in 2016-08-06 16:28:10.148 from a specific community in 2016-08-06 16:28:15.159 your production, then you need 2016-08-06 16:28:15.177 your production, then you need 2016-08-06 16:28:17.16 to ask that community, what do 2016-08-06 16:28:17.178 to ask that community, what do 2016-08-06 16:28:18.161 you need? 2016-08-06 16:28:18.179 you need? 2016-08-06 16:28:20.158 What do you want? 2016-08-06 16:28:20.176 What do you want? 2016-08-06 16:28:25.161 Because, like Jackie was saying, 2016-08-06 16:28:25.179 Because, like Jackie was saying, 2016-08-06 16:28:27.159 often it is not obvious to you 2016-08-06 16:28:27.16 as an outsider. 2016-08-06 16:28:27.177 often it is not obvious to you 2016-08-06 16:28:27.178 as an outsider. 2016-08-06 16:28:32.24 Um, to me it 2016-08-06 16:28:32.258 Um, to me it 2016-08-06 16:28:36.239 was so obvious that 2016-08-06 16:28:36.257 was so obvious that 2016-08-06 16:28:38.239 if you are creating a piece for 2016-08-06 16:28:38.257 if you are creating a piece for 2016-08-06 16:28:39.24 people on the spectrum, you 2016-08-06 16:28:39.258 people on the spectrum, you 2016-08-06 16:28:42.24 should, and it is supposed to be 2016-08-06 16:28:42.258 should, and it is supposed to be 2016-08-06 16:28:44.249 inclusive, you should include 2016-08-06 16:28:44.267 inclusive, you should include 2016-08-06 16:28:47.24 ways for completely nonverbal 2016-08-06 16:28:47.258 ways for completely nonverbal 2016-08-06 16:28:48.241 people to interact and limit the 2016-08-06 16:28:48.259 people to interact and limit the 2016-08-06 16:28:51.329 reliance on language. 2016-08-06 16:28:51.347 reliance on language. 2016-08-06 16:28:53.329 That was so obvious to me, that 2016-08-06 16:28:53.347 That was so obvious to me, that 2016-08-06 16:28:55.329 I do not think to mention it 2016-08-06 16:28:55.347 I do not think to mention it 2016-08-06 16:28:57.329 before the script was written. 2016-08-06 16:28:57.347 before the script was written. 2016-08-06 16:28:58.329 But as we learned, that is not 2016-08-06 16:28:58.348 But as we learned, that is not 2016-08-06 16:29:03.329 obvious to somebody that is used 2016-08-06 16:29:03.347 obvious to somebody that is used 2016-08-06 16:29:05.329 to writing scripts and that is 2016-08-06 16:29:05.347 to writing scripts and that is 2016-08-06 16:29:10.379 what they do, so -- really, 2016-08-06 16:29:10.38 just 2016-08-06 16:29:10.381 communication between you and 2016-08-06 16:29:10.397 what they do, so -- really, 2016-08-06 16:29:10.398 just 2016-08-06 16:29:10.4 communication between you and 2016-08-06 16:29:12.381 the community you are working 2016-08-06 16:29:12.401 the community you are working 2016-08-06 16:29:14.376 with and for, is the key. 2016-08-06 16:29:14.394 with and for, is the key. 2016-08-06 16:29:16.379 It is the key to making 2016-08-06 16:29:16.398 It is the key to making 2016-08-06 16:29:17.38 something that somebody will 2016-08-06 16:29:17.398 something that somebody will 2016-08-06 16:29:20.379 feel included and really be able 2016-08-06 16:29:20.397 feel included and really be able 2016-08-06 16:29:21.378 to participate in. 2016-08-06 16:29:21.396 to participate in. 2016-08-06 16:29:26.408 And the same goes 2016-08-06 16:29:26.409 for when you 2016-08-06 16:29:26.426 And the same goes 2016-08-06 16:29:26.427 for when you 2016-08-06 16:29:27.422 are including people with 2016-08-06 16:29:27.44 are including people with 2016-08-06 16:29:30.41 disabilities on your production, 2016-08-06 16:29:30.428 disabilities on your production, 2016-08-06 16:29:32.449 like on your team. 2016-08-06 16:29:32.467 like on your team. 2016-08-06 16:29:38.449 Because the people at Bricolage 2016-08-06 16:29:38.468 Because the people at Bricolage 2016-08-06 16:29:40.461 really tried to work with me and 2016-08-06 16:29:40.48 really tried to work with me and 2016-08-06 16:29:43.448 the first night I came in, we 2016-08-06 16:29:43.466 the first night I came in, we 2016-08-06 16:29:44.449 sat down and I had a talk with 2016-08-06 16:29:44.467 sat down and I had a talk with 2016-08-06 16:29:47.449 the entire team about my needs 2016-08-06 16:29:47.467 the entire team about my needs 2016-08-06 16:29:52.449 and what, how I would -- the 2016-08-06 16:29:52.467 and what, how I would -- the 2016-08-06 16:29:54.449 things that maybe would not be 2016-08-06 16:29:54.467 things that maybe would not be 2016-08-06 16:29:57.448 obvious as differences in 2016-08-06 16:29:57.466 obvious as differences in 2016-08-06 16:30:01.538 processing, in mental 2016-08-06 16:30:01.557 processing, in mental 2016-08-06 16:30:02.539 processing, and how I receive 2016-08-06 16:30:02.54 information. 2016-08-06 16:30:02.557 processing, and how I receive 2016-08-06 16:30:02.559 information. 2016-08-06 16:30:05.534 The very important to me as 2016-08-06 16:30:05.552 The very important to me as 2016-08-06 16:30:09.539 someone who was it going to be 2016-08-06 16:30:09.557 someone who was it going to be 2016-08-06 16:30:14.539 working for them, because we had 2016-08-06 16:30:14.557 working for them, because we had 2016-08-06 16:30:16.539 that long conversation I felt 2016-08-06 16:30:16.558 that long conversation I felt 2016-08-06 16:30:18.539 more comfortable being able to 2016-08-06 16:30:18.557 more comfortable being able to 2016-08-06 16:30:20.549 express my own needs throughout 2016-08-06 16:30:20.567 express my own needs throughout 2016-08-06 16:30:21.595 the reduction. 2016-08-06 16:30:21.613 the reduction. 2016-08-06 16:30:23.578 -- production. 2016-08-06 16:30:23.596 -- production. 2016-08-06 16:30:25.579 So again, like communication 2016-08-06 16:30:25.597 So again, like communication 2016-08-06 16:30:27.579 with the performers, people who 2016-08-06 16:30:27.597 with the performers, people who 2016-08-06 16:30:31.584 are you -- people who you are 2016-08-06 16:30:31.602 are you -- people who you are 2016-08-06 16:30:32.579 working with, making sure that 2016-08-06 16:30:32.597 working with, making sure that 2016-08-06 16:30:36.629 they are comfortable telling you 2016-08-06 16:30:36.647 they are comfortable telling you 2016-08-06 16:30:40.631 what they need from you, and 2016-08-06 16:30:40.649 what they need from you, and 2016-08-06 16:30:42.659 where to give you what you want. 2016-08-06 16:30:42.677 where to give you what you want. 2016-08-06 16:30:48.66 Jackie: absolutely, 2016-08-06 16:30:48.661 ask and 2016-08-06 16:30:48.662 listen. 2016-08-06 16:30:48.678 Jackie: absolutely, 2016-08-06 16:30:48.679 ask and 2016-08-06 16:30:48.68 listen. 2016-08-06 16:30:51.659 Actually here what they are 2016-08-06 16:30:51.677 Actually here what they are 2016-08-06 16:30:54.659 saying -- hear what they are 2016-08-06 16:30:54.677 saying -- hear what they are 2016-08-06 16:30:57.669 saying, and ask yourself why am 2016-08-06 16:30:57.687 saying, and ask yourself why am 2016-08-06 16:30:58.667 I doing the things I am doing? 2016-08-06 16:30:58.686 I doing the things I am doing? 2016-08-06 16:31:02.658 Why do I continue it, in spite 2016-08-06 16:31:02.677 Why do I continue it, in spite 2016-08-06 16:31:04.712 of feedback that I continue to 2016-08-06 16:31:04.73 of feedback that I continue to 2016-08-06 16:31:06.752 get that it is not reaching 2016-08-06 16:31:06.77 get that it is not reaching 2016-08-06 16:31:08.765 certain people? 2016-08-06 16:31:08.784 certain people? 2016-08-06 16:31:12.749 I thought, before I came to 2016-08-06 16:31:12.767 I thought, before I came to 2016-08-06 16:31:15.748 lead, how much time do these 2016-08-06 16:31:15.767 lead, how much time do these 2016-08-06 16:31:16.75 people have? 2016-08-06 16:31:16.768 people have? 2016-08-06 16:31:21.789 We have a $500,000 budget 2016-08-06 16:31:21.79 range 2016-08-06 16:31:21.807 We have a $500,000 budget 2016-08-06 16:31:21.808 range 2016-08-06 16:31:22.789 and way of six full-time staff 2016-08-06 16:31:22.81 and way of six full-time staff 2016-08-06 16:31:28.79 members -- range and we 2016-08-06 16:31:28.79 have 2016-08-06 16:31:28.795 asked full-time staff members. 2016-08-06 16:31:28.808 members -- range and we 2016-08-06 16:31:28.808 have 2016-08-06 16:31:28.81 asked full-time staff members. 2016-08-06 16:31:32.788 Sometimes it is OK to not know 2016-08-06 16:31:32.79 where to start. 2016-08-06 16:31:32.806 Sometimes it is OK to not know 2016-08-06 16:31:32.808 where to start. 2016-08-06 16:31:34.79 There is a supportive community 2016-08-06 16:31:34.808 There is a supportive community 2016-08-06 16:31:36.788 out there, people who are eager 2016-08-06 16:31:36.806 out there, people who are eager 2016-08-06 16:31:39.797 to help and give you feedback 2016-08-06 16:31:39.816 to help and give you feedback 2016-08-06 16:31:40.789 and make the place that is close 2016-08-06 16:31:40.807 and make the place that is close 2016-08-06 16:31:45.789 to them, the arts place, a place 2016-08-06 16:31:45.79 for them. 2016-08-06 16:31:45.792 And they will tell you what they 2016-08-06 16:31:45.807 to them, the arts place, a place 2016-08-06 16:31:45.808 for them. 2016-08-06 16:31:45.81 And they will tell you what they 2016-08-06 16:31:47.789 want and need and they will be 2016-08-06 16:31:47.807 want and need and they will be 2016-08-06 16:31:49.84 very patient. 2016-08-06 16:31:49.858 very patient. 2016-08-06 16:31:50.838 And they will generously donate 2016-08-06 16:31:50.856 And they will generously donate 2016-08-06 16:31:52.839 time telling you what you are 2016-08-06 16:31:52.84 messing up. 2016-08-06 16:31:52.857 time telling you what you are 2016-08-06 16:31:52.859 messing up. 2016-08-06 16:31:56.849 And all you have to do is listen 2016-08-06 16:31:56.867 And all you have to do is listen 2016-08-06 16:31:57.838 and actually implement it, 2016-08-06 16:31:57.856 and actually implement it, 2016-08-06 16:32:00.842 instead of sitting on the 2016-08-06 16:32:00.843 information. 2016-08-06 16:32:00.86 instead of sitting on the 2016-08-06 16:32:00.861 information. 2016-08-06 16:32:03.879 And if you are lucky enough to 2016-08-06 16:32:03.881 be in a position of power and 2016-08-06 16:32:03.898 And if you are lucky enough to 2016-08-06 16:32:03.899 be in a position of power and 2016-08-06 16:32:06.89 you have control in the 2016-08-06 16:32:06.892 organization, do everything you 2016-08-06 16:32:06.908 you have control in the 2016-08-06 16:32:06.91 organization, do everything you 2016-08-06 16:32:07.89 can to remove every little piece 2016-08-06 16:32:07.908 can to remove every little piece 2016-08-06 16:32:10.888 of red tape that you can. 2016-08-06 16:32:10.907 of red tape that you can. 2016-08-06 16:32:13.892 The reason that we went from a 2016-08-06 16:32:13.91 The reason that we went from a 2016-08-06 16:32:15.891 place of absolutely zero 2016-08-06 16:32:15.912 place of absolutely zero 2016-08-06 16:32:18.889 initiatives, the three years 2016-08-06 16:32:18.907 initiatives, the three years 2016-08-06 16:32:19.926 later having all the programs 2016-08-06 16:32:19.938 later having all the programs 2016-08-06 16:32:22.919 having a program -- having a 2016-08-06 16:32:22.937 having a program -- having a 2016-08-06 16:32:25.918 component with sensory 2016-08-06 16:32:25.936 component with sensory 2016-08-06 16:32:27.923 workshops, to programs based on 2016-08-06 16:32:27.941 workshops, to programs based on 2016-08-06 16:32:29.919 this and actually creatively 2016-08-06 16:32:29.937 this and actually creatively 2016-08-06 16:32:30.922 collaborating with people with 2016-08-06 16:32:30.94 collaborating with people with 2016-08-06 16:32:32.919 disabilities, to immersive 2016-08-06 16:32:32.937 disabilities, to immersive 2016-08-06 16:32:35.958 guides who are one-on-one 2016-08-06 16:32:35.977 guides who are one-on-one 2016-08-06 16:32:37.957 companions that will meet 2016-08-06 16:32:37.975 companions that will meet 2016-08-06 16:32:38.959 whatever your personal bucket of 2016-08-06 16:32:38.977 whatever your personal bucket of 2016-08-06 16:32:40.959 these is when you come through 2016-08-06 16:32:40.977 these is when you come through 2016-08-06 16:32:43.953 -- needs is when you come 2016-08-06 16:32:43.971 -- needs is when you come 2016-08-06 16:32:48.961 through -- the way we got 2016-08-06 16:32:48.962 there 2016-08-06 16:32:48.964 is by getting rid of the red 2016-08-06 16:32:48.979 through -- the way we got 2016-08-06 16:32:48.98 there 2016-08-06 16:32:48.982 is by getting rid of the red 2016-08-06 16:32:52.96 tape and being honest with 2016-08-06 16:32:52.961 ourselves about what we were 2016-08-06 16:32:52.978 tape and being honest with 2016-08-06 16:32:52.979 ourselves about what we were 2016-08-06 16:32:53.958 doing right and wrong. 2016-08-06 16:32:53.976 doing right and wrong. 2016-08-06 16:32:55.957 David: great. 2016-08-06 16:32:55.976 David: great. 2016-08-06 16:32:56.96 Awesome. 2016-08-06 16:32:56.979 Awesome. 2016-08-06 16:33:02.038 Think is a much for sharing -- 2016-08-06 16:33:02.04 thank you so much for sharing. 2016-08-06 16:33:02.056 Think is a much for sharing -- 2016-08-06 16:33:02.057 thank you so much for sharing. 2016-08-06 16:33:03.038 I want to open it up for 2016-08-06 16:33:03.04 questions. 2016-08-06 16:33:03.056 I want to open it up for 2016-08-06 16:33:03.058 questions. 2016-08-06 16:33:07.037 We would love to hear some. 2016-08-06 16:33:07.056 We would love to hear some. 2016-08-06 16:33:14.037 >> 2016-08-06 16:33:14.055 >> 2016-08-06 16:33:15.039 hi, I do not really have a 2016-08-06 16:33:15.057 hi, I do not really have a 2016-08-06 16:33:17.038 question, but I wanted to ask 2016-08-06 16:33:17.056 question, but I wanted to ask 2016-08-06 16:33:21.038 vanya, would you mind sharing 2016-08-06 16:33:21.056 vanya, would you mind sharing 2016-08-06 16:33:22.038 your age? 2016-08-06 16:33:22.056 your age? 2016-08-06 16:33:25.091 Vanya: I am 18. 2016-08-06 16:33:25.109 Vanya: I am 18. 2016-08-06 16:33:30.138 >> I wanted to say 2016-08-06 16:33:30.156 >> I wanted to say 2016-08-06 16:33:31.239 , when you are 2016-08-06 16:33:31.24 speaking, I only have one 2016-08-06 16:33:31.257 , when you are 2016-08-06 16:33:31.259 speaking, I only have one 2016-08-06 16:33:33.141 professional acting credit, one 2016-08-06 16:33:33.16 professional acting credit, one 2016-08-06 16:33:34.138 professional writing credit, to 2016-08-06 16:33:34.156 professional writing credit, to 2016-08-06 16:33:36.137 really own that. 2016-08-06 16:33:36.155 really own that. 2016-08-06 16:33:39.139 That is a huge success for any 2016-08-06 16:33:39.157 That is a huge success for any 2016-08-06 16:33:40.137 18-year-old to have. 2016-08-06 16:33:40.155 18-year-old to have. 2016-08-06 16:33:41.138 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 16:33:41.156 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 16:33:46.137 >> so, that is certainly the 2016-08-06 16:33:46.156 >> so, that is certainly the 2016-08-06 16:33:49.169 start of a bright future and I 2016-08-06 16:33:49.171 hope that you know that. 2016-08-06 16:33:49.188 start of a bright future and I 2016-08-06 16:33:49.189 hope that you know that. 2016-08-06 16:33:50.168 Vanya: thank you. 2016-08-06 16:33:50.186 Vanya: thank you. 2016-08-06 16:34:00.169 David: Tiffany, we have one down 2016-08-06 16:34:00.187 David: Tiffany, we have one down 2016-08-06 16:34:01.169 house left. 2016-08-06 16:34:01.187 house left. 2016-08-06 16:34:06.168 >> thank you. 2016-08-06 16:34:06.187 >> thank you. 2016-08-06 16:34:11.299 First of all, this is 2016-08-06 16:34:11.3 Vanessa. 2016-08-06 16:34:11.318 First of all, this is 2016-08-06 16:34:11.319 Vanessa. 2016-08-06 16:34:17.288 And I am just so 2016-08-06 16:34:17.289 impressed by 2016-08-06 16:34:17.307 And I am just so 2016-08-06 16:34:17.308 impressed by 2016-08-06 16:34:21.3 this entire project and I knew 2016-08-06 16:34:21.318 this entire project and I knew 2016-08-06 16:34:22.297 about it from the onset. 2016-08-06 16:34:22.316 about it from the onset. 2016-08-06 16:34:26.299 Even read the social story that 2016-08-06 16:34:26.317 Even read the social story that 2016-08-06 16:34:29.299 you guys created around it, but 2016-08-06 16:34:29.317 you guys created around it, but 2016-08-06 16:34:32.338 just to hear the background of 2016-08-06 16:34:32.357 just to hear the background of 2016-08-06 16:34:36.341 what happened, it is, it makes 2016-08-06 16:34:36.359 what happened, it is, it makes 2016-08-06 16:34:38.341 me wildly proud to be a part of 2016-08-06 16:34:38.36 me wildly proud to be a part of 2016-08-06 16:34:42.387 this community with the two of 2016-08-06 16:34:42.388 you. 2016-08-06 16:34:42.409 this community with the two of 2016-08-06 16:34:42.411 you. 2016-08-06 16:34:43.387 So thank you. 2016-08-06 16:34:43.405 So thank you. 2016-08-06 16:34:45.391 Thanks for that. 2016-08-06 16:34:45.41 Thanks for that. 2016-08-06 16:34:50.388 And my question is, on average, 2016-08-06 16:34:50.406 And my question is, on average, 2016-08-06 16:34:54.388 how long did people stay in the 2016-08-06 16:34:54.406 how long did people stay in the 2016-08-06 16:34:55.39 forest? 2016-08-06 16:34:55.408 forest? 2016-08-06 16:35:01.417 And to follow that up 2016-08-06 16:35:01.418 , did you 2016-08-06 16:35:01.42 have any children or family 2016-08-06 16:35:01.436 And to follow that up 2016-08-06 16:35:01.437 , did you 2016-08-06 16:35:01.438 have any children or family 2016-08-06 16:35:03.418 members with multiple 2016-08-06 16:35:03.436 members with multiple 2016-08-06 16:35:05.419 disabilities? 2016-08-06 16:35:05.437 disabilities? 2016-08-06 16:35:08.418 Another disability on top of 2016-08-06 16:35:08.436 Another disability on top of 2016-08-06 16:35:12.419 being on the autism spectrum. 2016-08-06 16:35:12.437 being on the autism spectrum. 2016-08-06 16:35:15.437 Jackie: sorry, the first met 2016-08-06 16:35:15.456 Jackie: sorry, the first met 2016-08-06 16:35:18.458 there were -- the first, there 2016-08-06 16:35:18.476 there were -- the first, there 2016-08-06 16:35:21.457 were two questions -- how long 2016-08-06 16:35:21.475 were two questions -- how long 2016-08-06 16:35:23.458 did kids stay in the forest? 2016-08-06 16:35:23.476 did kids stay in the forest? 2016-08-06 16:35:25.458 We were hoping it would be a 30 2016-08-06 16:35:25.476 We were hoping it would be a 30 2016-08-06 16:35:27.458 minute experience. 2016-08-06 16:35:27.476 minute experience. 2016-08-06 16:35:35.511 The shortest of venture I think 2016-08-06 16:35:35.529 The shortest of venture I think 2016-08-06 16:35:38.513 took -- we were making them 2016-08-06 16:35:38.531 took -- we were making them 2016-08-06 16:35:39.549 leave the forest. 2016-08-06 16:35:39.567 leave the forest. 2016-08-06 16:35:42.547 And having a conversation that 2016-08-06 16:35:42.565 And having a conversation that 2016-08-06 16:35:44.548 just happened to lead to the end 2016-08-06 16:35:44.566 just happened to lead to the end 2016-08-06 16:35:45.549 of the pipe. 2016-08-06 16:35:45.567 of the pipe. 2016-08-06 16:35:48.548 -- end of the play. 2016-08-06 16:35:48.566 -- end of the play. 2016-08-06 16:35:51.549 So we were very pleased that we 2016-08-06 16:35:51.567 So we were very pleased that we 2016-08-06 16:35:54.547 had multiple parents that came 2016-08-06 16:35:54.565 had multiple parents that came 2016-08-06 16:35:55.542 and said, my kid has not been 90 2016-08-06 16:35:55.56 and said, my kid has not been 90 2016-08-06 16:35:57.549 minutes anywhere, ever. 2016-08-06 16:35:57.572 minutes anywhere, ever. 2016-08-06 16:36:01.587 And this is our first time we've 2016-08-06 16:36:01.606 And this is our first time we've 2016-08-06 16:36:03.587 been able to sit and relax and 2016-08-06 16:36:03.605 been able to sit and relax and 2016-08-06 16:36:05.584 they can watch them play like at 2016-08-06 16:36:05.603 they can watch them play like at 2016-08-06 16:36:06.589 the playground. 2016-08-06 16:36:06.607 the playground. 2016-08-06 16:36:08.59 Those were some of the most 2016-08-06 16:36:08.608 Those were some of the most 2016-08-06 16:36:09.587 meaningful ones. 2016-08-06 16:36:09.605 meaningful ones. 2016-08-06 16:36:12.587 We did have a kid come through 2016-08-06 16:36:12.605 We did have a kid come through 2016-08-06 16:36:13.588 that was six years old and he 2016-08-06 16:36:13.606 that was six years old and he 2016-08-06 16:36:16.587 was blind and he had 2016-08-06 16:36:16.606 was blind and he had 2016-08-06 16:36:18.589 sensitivities, so we had a phone 2016-08-06 16:36:18.607 sensitivities, so we had a phone 2016-08-06 16:36:21.588 call in advance to see what we 2016-08-06 16:36:21.589 could do. 2016-08-06 16:36:21.606 call in advance to see what we 2016-08-06 16:36:21.608 could do. 2016-08-06 16:36:25.689 And we had piloted the common -- 2016-08-06 16:36:25.708 And we had piloted the common -- 2016-08-06 16:36:27.689 the idea of an immersive 2016-08-06 16:36:27.707 the idea of an immersive 2016-08-06 16:36:29.688 companion, because it is so 2016-08-06 16:36:29.706 companion, because it is so 2016-08-06 16:36:31.689 immersive and personal, it 2016-08-06 16:36:31.707 immersive and personal, it 2016-08-06 16:36:33.69 starts at a different time for 2016-08-06 16:36:33.691 everybody. 2016-08-06 16:36:33.708 starts at a different time for 2016-08-06 16:36:33.709 everybody. 2016-08-06 16:36:36.688 And because it is a highly 2016-08-06 16:36:36.706 And because it is a highly 2016-08-06 16:36:38.688 sensory-based experience, there 2016-08-06 16:36:38.706 sensory-based experience, there 2016-08-06 16:36:39.688 are barriers that could occur. 2016-08-06 16:36:39.707 are barriers that could occur. 2016-08-06 16:36:41.689 So we tested it during the 2016-08-06 16:36:41.707 So we tested it during the 2016-08-06 16:36:45.759 Saints tour to CF a personal -- 2016-08-06 16:36:45.777 Saints tour to CF a personal -- 2016-08-06 16:36:49.758 see if a personal audio 2016-08-06 16:36:49.76 described her would be 2016-08-06 16:36:49.777 see if a personal audio 2016-08-06 16:36:49.779 described her would be 2016-08-06 16:36:50.757 successful. 2016-08-06 16:36:50.776 successful. 2016-08-06 16:36:53.751 It was. 2016-08-06 16:36:53.753 We did a rough draft on one of 2016-08-06 16:36:53.769 It was. 2016-08-06 16:36:53.771 We did a rough draft on one of 2016-08-06 16:36:54.759 our friends of the theater that 2016-08-06 16:36:54.781 our friends of the theater that 2016-08-06 16:36:56.759 is with us today, Brian. 2016-08-06 16:36:56.777 is with us today, Brian. 2016-08-06 16:36:59.757 Who kindly went through the 2016-08-06 16:36:59.775 Who kindly went through the 2016-08-06 16:37:02.758 forest like a child. 2016-08-06 16:37:02.76 And we had the audio described 2016-08-06 16:37:02.776 forest like a child. 2016-08-06 16:37:02.778 And we had the audio described 2016-08-06 16:37:06.758 her, Marianne, go through and 2016-08-06 16:37:06.776 her, Marianne, go through and 2016-08-06 16:37:08.761 practice on him, so that 2016-08-06 16:37:08.779 practice on him, so that 2016-08-06 16:37:11.763 whenever Tommy came, he was able 2016-08-06 16:37:11.764 to go through the force and she 2016-08-06 16:37:11.781 whenever Tommy came, he was able 2016-08-06 16:37:11.783 to go through the force and she 2016-08-06 16:37:13.753 was ready and knew what to 2016-08-06 16:37:13.772 was ready and knew what to 2016-08-06 16:37:15.759 describe and new with some 2016-08-06 16:37:15.777 describe and new with some 2016-08-06 16:37:17.759 possible barriers where. 2016-08-06 16:37:17.777 possible barriers where. 2016-08-06 16:37:19.758 That was the first time we 2016-08-06 16:37:19.776 That was the first time we 2016-08-06 16:37:20.758 successfully employed the idea 2016-08-06 16:37:20.776 successfully employed the idea 2016-08-06 16:37:22.758 of an immersive companion. 2016-08-06 16:37:22.777 of an immersive companion. 2016-08-06 16:37:23.767 And I do not know how many 2016-08-06 16:37:23.785 And I do not know how many 2016-08-06 16:37:26.759 people we could accommodate in 2016-08-06 16:37:26.761 that way. 2016-08-06 16:37:26.777 people we could accommodate in 2016-08-06 16:37:26.779 that way. 2016-08-06 16:37:29.758 We are interested in testing 2016-08-06 16:37:29.776 We are interested in testing 2016-08-06 16:37:30.755 that, but we were excited to 2016-08-06 16:37:30.774 that, but we were excited to 2016-08-06 16:37:32.797 make it successful this year. 2016-08-06 16:37:32.815 make it successful this year. 2016-08-06 16:37:40.839 Vanya: Brian, do you want to say 2016-08-06 16:37:40.857 Vanya: Brian, do you want to say 2016-08-06 16:37:42.839 anything about that? 2016-08-06 16:37:42.856 anything about that? 2016-08-06 16:37:46.837 Brian: it is great that they 2016-08-06 16:37:46.855 Brian: it is great that they 2016-08-06 16:37:48.837 opened it up to a bigger window, 2016-08-06 16:37:48.856 opened it up to a bigger window, 2016-08-06 16:37:51.838 then just the ones we had. 2016-08-06 16:37:51.857 then just the ones we had. 2016-08-06 16:37:54.836 And it was great to actually 2016-08-06 16:37:54.837 circle back. 2016-08-06 16:37:54.854 And it was great to actually 2016-08-06 16:37:54.856 circle back. 2016-08-06 16:37:57.889 I went back, I was planning on 2016-08-06 16:37:57.908 I went back, I was planning on 2016-08-06 16:37:59.888 going on my own without a 2016-08-06 16:37:59.906 going on my own without a 2016-08-06 16:38:00.886 describing. 2016-08-06 16:38:00.905 describing. 2016-08-06 16:38:03.899 -- describer. 2016-08-06 16:38:03.918 -- describer. 2016-08-06 16:38:06.887 The fact that they opened it up 2016-08-06 16:38:06.906 The fact that they opened it up 2016-08-06 16:38:08.887 and I got back, and I asked, how 2016-08-06 16:38:08.906 and I got back, and I asked, how 2016-08-06 16:38:10.937 did it go? 2016-08-06 16:38:10.956 did it go? 2016-08-06 16:38:12.934 That was great. 2016-08-06 16:38:12.952 That was great. 2016-08-06 16:38:17.944 Jackie: we did have a few 2016-08-06 16:38:17.945 kids 2016-08-06 16:38:17.963 Jackie: we did have a few 2016-08-06 16:38:17.964 kids 2016-08-06 16:38:18.937 that also were in will chairs, 2016-08-06 16:38:18.955 that also were in will chairs, 2016-08-06 16:38:22.938 but as -- wheelchair, but as our 2016-08-06 16:38:22.956 but as -- wheelchair, but as our 2016-08-06 16:38:24.937 space is accessible, we had 2016-08-06 16:38:24.955 space is accessible, we had 2016-08-06 16:38:27.969 dealt with that. 2016-08-06 16:38:27.97 It did not present much of a 2016-08-06 16:38:27.987 dealt with that. 2016-08-06 16:38:27.989 It did not present much of a 2016-08-06 16:38:28.967 barrier for us. 2016-08-06 16:38:28.986 barrier for us. 2016-08-06 16:38:34.967 Vanya: any other 2016-08-06 16:38:34.968 questions? 2016-08-06 16:38:34.986 Vanya: any other 2016-08-06 16:38:34.987 questions? 2016-08-06 16:38:37.969 David: cool. 2016-08-06 16:38:37.987 David: cool. 2016-08-06 16:38:42.051 I think now we are just going to 2016-08-06 16:38:42.053 transition into kind of a 2016-08-06 16:38:42.054 wrapup. 2016-08-06 16:38:42.07 I think now we are just going to 2016-08-06 16:38:42.071 transition into kind of a 2016-08-06 16:38:42.073 wrapup. 2016-08-06 16:38:45.048 Thank you for hanging out. 2016-08-06 16:38:45.066 Thank you for hanging out. 2016-08-06 16:38:46.047 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 16:38:46.066 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 16:39:13.138 Christine and I will begin the 2016-08-06 16:39:13.156 Christine and I will begin the 2016-08-06 16:39:15.139 wrapup portion. 2016-08-06 16:39:15.157 wrapup portion. 2016-08-06 16:39:25.188 Are you more comfortable with 2016-08-06 16:39:25.206 Are you more comfortable with 2016-08-06 16:39:26.189 the chair? 2016-08-06 16:39:26.207 the chair? 2016-08-06 16:39:35.187 David: 2016-08-06 16:39:35.206 David: 2016-08-06 16:39:36.187 so, Tiffany I guess, if 2016-08-06 16:39:36.206 so, Tiffany I guess, if 2016-08-06 16:39:39.189 you could help us a little bit 2016-08-06 16:39:39.208 you could help us a little bit 2016-08-06 16:39:40.187 with going through some of the 2016-08-06 16:39:40.206 with going through some of the 2016-08-06 16:39:45.217 Post-it notes and a sort 2016-08-06 16:39:45.22 of 2016-08-06 16:39:45.235 Post-it notes and a sort 2016-08-06 16:39:45.235 of 2016-08-06 16:39:47.217 reading out the responses that 2016-08-06 16:39:47.236 reading out the responses that 2016-08-06 16:39:48.219 have come through the day and 2016-08-06 16:39:48.237 have come through the day and 2016-08-06 16:39:52.219 allow us to wrapup with these 2016-08-06 16:39:52.238 allow us to wrapup with these 2016-08-06 16:39:53.217 ideas. 2016-08-06 16:39:53.235 ideas. 2016-08-06 16:39:57.22 Tiffany: you all had great 2016-08-06 16:39:57.238 Tiffany: you all had great 2016-08-06 16:39:59.221 thoughts, thank you for that. 2016-08-06 16:39:59.239 thoughts, thank you for that. 2016-08-06 16:40:02.218 The little cluster that was 2016-08-06 16:40:02.236 The little cluster that was 2016-08-06 16:40:06.218 about insights, let's see. 2016-08-06 16:40:06.236 about insights, let's see. 2016-08-06 16:40:09.217 Sorry if I am not in the camera 2016-08-06 16:40:09.218 shot. 2016-08-06 16:40:09.236 Sorry if I am not in the camera 2016-08-06 16:40:09.237 shot. 2016-08-06 16:40:13.218 One was design and accessibility 2016-08-06 16:40:13.237 One was design and accessibility 2016-08-06 16:40:15.219 do not have to be in complicated 2016-08-06 16:40:15.237 do not have to be in complicated 2016-08-06 16:40:18.218 design can be -- be in conflict. 2016-08-06 16:40:18.236 design can be -- be in conflict. 2016-08-06 16:40:20.221 Design can be the solution. 2016-08-06 16:40:20.24 Design can be the solution. 2016-08-06 16:40:25.216 And finding the balance between 2016-08-06 16:40:25.235 And finding the balance between 2016-08-06 16:40:27.218 spectrum and inspiration. 2016-08-06 16:40:27.237 spectrum and inspiration. 2016-08-06 16:40:32.218 When disability is the common 2016-08-06 16:40:32.236 When disability is the common 2016-08-06 16:40:38.218 denominator, i.e. studio 2016-08-06 16:40:38.219 artists 2016-08-06 16:40:38.236 denominator, i.e. studio 2016-08-06 16:40:38.237 artists 2016-08-06 16:40:39.23 residencies, then they are 2016-08-06 16:40:39.249 residencies, then they are 2016-08-06 16:40:43.259 practice moves -- the art 2016-08-06 16:40:43.277 practice moves -- the art 2016-08-06 16:40:44.269 practice moves to the 2016-08-06 16:40:44.27 foreground. 2016-08-06 16:40:44.287 practice moves to the 2016-08-06 16:40:44.289 foreground. 2016-08-06 16:40:51.267 And one 2016-08-06 16:40:51.268 , to one, to one, each 2016-08-06 16:40:51.285 And one 2016-08-06 16:40:51.286 , to one, to one, each 2016-08-06 16:40:53.269 artist can grow exponentially. 2016-08-06 16:40:53.288 artist can grow exponentially. 2016-08-06 16:40:56.269 And listening happens with many 2016-08-06 16:40:56.288 And listening happens with many 2016-08-06 16:40:57.307 senses. 2016-08-06 16:40:57.325 senses. 2016-08-06 16:41:01.348 Working on being inclusive will 2016-08-06 16:41:01.366 Working on being inclusive will 2016-08-06 16:41:04.398 cause lots of missteps, but must 2016-08-06 16:41:04.399 keep the pendulum moving 2016-08-06 16:41:04.401 forward. 2016-08-06 16:41:04.417 cause lots of missteps, but must 2016-08-06 16:41:04.418 keep the pendulum moving 2016-08-06 16:41:04.419 forward. 2016-08-06 16:41:07.398 Those were the groups of 2016-08-06 16:41:07.416 Those were the groups of 2016-08-06 16:41:09.437 insights. 2016-08-06 16:41:09.455 insights. 2016-08-06 16:41:11.438 Let's see. 2016-08-06 16:41:11.457 Let's see. 2016-08-06 16:41:13.448 A couple of other things I think 2016-08-06 16:41:13.467 A couple of other things I think 2016-08-06 16:41:15.451 where probably insights also. 2016-08-06 16:41:15.469 where probably insights also. 2016-08-06 16:41:18.45 Need for open discussion about 2016-08-06 16:41:18.468 Need for open discussion about 2016-08-06 16:41:20.448 disability aesthetics. 2016-08-06 16:41:20.467 disability aesthetics. 2016-08-06 16:41:25.446 Disability disabled arts is 2016-08-06 16:41:25.448 profitable and should be 2016-08-06 16:41:25.465 Disability disabled arts is 2016-08-06 16:41:25.466 profitable and should be 2016-08-06 16:41:27.467 marketed as such. 2016-08-06 16:41:27.485 marketed as such. 2016-08-06 16:41:29.477 Accessibility should be part of 2016-08-06 16:41:29.495 Accessibility should be part of 2016-08-06 16:41:32.477 the basic customer service and 2016-08-06 16:41:32.495 the basic customer service and 2016-08-06 16:41:34.479 institutional artist driven 2016-08-06 16:41:34.497 institutional artist driven 2016-08-06 16:41:38.478 development of a new Canon, 2016-08-06 16:41:38.496 development of a new Canon, 2016-08-06 16:41:41.477 changing the stories on stage. 2016-08-06 16:41:41.495 changing the stories on stage. 2016-08-06 16:41:42.478 Actions coming out of the day, 2016-08-06 16:41:42.496 Actions coming out of the day, 2016-08-06 16:41:44.477 is this helpful? 2016-08-06 16:41:44.495 is this helpful? 2016-08-06 16:41:46.512 Do you want me to pause? 2016-08-06 16:41:46.53 Do you want me to pause? 2016-08-06 16:41:51.523 Actions 2016-08-06 16:41:51.525 coming of the day, 2016-08-06 16:41:51.526 advocacy for communities to 2016-08-06 16:41:51.542 Actions 2016-08-06 16:41:51.543 coming of the day, 2016-08-06 16:41:51.544 advocacy for communities to 2016-08-06 16:41:56.52 further move residencies, to 2016-08-06 16:41:56.522 further move or create 2016-08-06 16:41:56.539 further move residencies, to 2016-08-06 16:41:56.54 further move or create 2016-08-06 16:41:58.517 residencies for artists with 2016-08-06 16:41:58.535 residencies for artists with 2016-08-06 16:42:01.518 disabilities eared that is one 2016-08-06 16:42:01.52 -- disability. 2016-08-06 16:42:01.537 disabilities eared that is one 2016-08-06 16:42:01.54 -- disability. 2016-08-06 16:42:04.518 That is one for all of us. 2016-08-06 16:42:04.536 That is one for all of us. 2016-08-06 16:42:07.518 Always ask the artist what he or 2016-08-06 16:42:07.536 Always ask the artist what he or 2016-08-06 16:42:09.518 she prefers for accommodations. 2016-08-06 16:42:09.537 she prefers for accommodations. 2016-08-06 16:42:11.597 Inclusive collaborations are 2016-08-06 16:42:11.615 Inclusive collaborations are 2016-08-06 16:42:12.597 imperative. 2016-08-06 16:42:12.616 imperative. 2016-08-06 16:42:14.598 Good action steps. 2016-08-06 16:42:14.617 Good action steps. 2016-08-06 16:42:17.597 Finally, the list of questions 2016-08-06 16:42:17.615 Finally, the list of questions 2016-08-06 16:42:19.598 that were still out there. 2016-08-06 16:42:19.616 that were still out there. 2016-08-06 16:42:23.597 A couple, let's see, a couple of 2016-08-06 16:42:23.615 A couple, let's see, a couple of 2016-08-06 16:42:25.598 general ones and some specific. 2016-08-06 16:42:25.617 general ones and some specific. 2016-08-06 16:42:31.597 One is, the 2016-08-06 16:42:31.598 nonspecific ones, as 2016-08-06 16:42:31.616 One is, the 2016-08-06 16:42:31.617 nonspecific ones, as 2016-08-06 16:42:35.647 providers of arts program income 2016-08-06 16:42:35.649 are we learning about the 2016-08-06 16:42:35.665 providers of arts program income 2016-08-06 16:42:35.667 are we learning about the 2016-08-06 16:42:36.69 populations that we are serving? 2016-08-06 16:42:36.709 populations that we are serving? 2016-08-06 16:42:39.696 If so, how deeply? 2016-08-06 16:42:39.714 If so, how deeply? 2016-08-06 16:42:42.7 We have had a lot of examples of 2016-08-06 16:42:42.719 We have had a lot of examples of 2016-08-06 16:42:46.698 that, we are getting more deeper 2016-08-06 16:42:46.699 . 2016-08-06 16:42:46.717 that, we are getting more deeper 2016-08-06 16:42:46.718 . 2016-08-06 16:42:48.697 As arts providers, how are we 2016-08-06 16:42:48.715 As arts providers, how are we 2016-08-06 16:42:50.697 thinking of the individuals with 2016-08-06 16:42:50.715 thinking of the individuals with 2016-08-06 16:42:51.697 disabilities that are not 2016-08-06 16:42:51.716 disabilities that are not 2016-08-06 16:42:54.727 fortunate enough to have arts in 2016-08-06 16:42:54.746 fortunate enough to have arts in 2016-08-06 16:42:56.727 their lives, as audience members 2016-08-06 16:42:56.746 their lives, as audience members 2016-08-06 16:42:58.727 or otherwise, how are we 2016-08-06 16:42:58.745 or otherwise, how are we 2016-08-06 16:43:01.726 cultivating the outlier artists? 2016-08-06 16:43:01.744 cultivating the outlier artists? 2016-08-06 16:43:05.767 How do public spaces typically 2016-08-06 16:43:05.785 How do public spaces typically 2016-08-06 16:43:06.767 get accessibility wrong? 2016-08-06 16:43:06.785 get accessibility wrong? 2016-08-06 16:43:08.774 I think we have seen many 2016-08-06 16:43:08.792 I think we have seen many 2016-08-06 16:43:10.769 examples of that. 2016-08-06 16:43:10.787 examples of that. 2016-08-06 16:43:13.764 And another question, regarding 2016-08-06 16:43:13.783 And another question, regarding 2016-08-06 16:43:14.768 artists residencies, is it 2016-08-06 16:43:14.786 artists residencies, is it 2016-08-06 16:43:17.807 better to have an inclusive, 2016-08-06 16:43:17.825 better to have an inclusive, 2016-08-06 16:43:19.846 Limited residency, or a separate 2016-08-06 16:43:19.865 Limited residency, or a separate 2016-08-06 16:43:21.845 residency for an artist with 2016-08-06 16:43:21.864 residency for an artist with 2016-08-06 16:43:25.845 disabilities? 2016-08-06 16:43:25.864 disabilities? 2016-08-06 16:43:29.847 I think that is a good question 2016-08-06 16:43:29.866 I think that is a good question 2016-08-06 16:43:31.846 we have touched on. 2016-08-06 16:43:31.865 we have touched on. 2016-08-06 16:43:36.848 For Vermont studio center, let 2016-08-06 16:43:36.867 For Vermont studio center, let 2016-08-06 16:43:41.896 me grab this, fund 2016-08-06 16:43:41.915 me grab this, fund 2016-08-06 16:43:42.898 that there 2016-08-06 16:43:42.917 that there 2016-08-06 16:43:45.896 fellowship -- the Fellowship 2016-08-06 16:43:45.915 fellowship -- the Fellowship 2016-08-06 16:43:48.948 enriches the organization. 2016-08-06 16:43:48.967 enriches the organization. 2016-08-06 16:43:51.946 Who else has seen this? 2016-08-06 16:43:51.965 Who else has seen this? 2016-08-06 16:43:57.95 And for 2016-08-06 16:43:57.951 Vermont studio Center, 2016-08-06 16:43:57.968 And for 2016-08-06 16:43:57.969 Vermont studio Center, 2016-08-06 16:43:59.946 how do you address barriers that 2016-08-06 16:43:59.965 how do you address barriers that 2016-08-06 16:44:00.946 exist for people with 2016-08-06 16:44:00.965 exist for people with 2016-08-06 16:44:01.948 disabilities in the application 2016-08-06 16:44:01.966 disabilities in the application 2016-08-06 16:44:02.947 process? 2016-08-06 16:44:02.966 process? 2016-08-06 16:44:05.946 That applies to grant and other 2016-08-06 16:44:05.965 That applies to grant and other 2016-08-06 16:44:06.947 things like that. 2016-08-06 16:44:06.966 things like that. 2016-08-06 16:44:09.946 David: a lot of good questions. 2016-08-06 16:44:09.965 David: a lot of good questions. 2016-08-06 16:44:12.951 Christine, what are your 2016-08-06 16:44:12.969 Christine, what are your 2016-08-06 16:44:15.947 thoughts in terms of themes for 2016-08-06 16:44:15.948 the day? 2016-08-06 16:44:15.965 thoughts in terms of themes for 2016-08-06 16:44:15.967 the day? 2016-08-06 16:44:19.949 David: for me, I think it was, 2016-08-06 16:44:19.967 David: for me, I think it was, 2016-08-06 16:44:22.977 for me the whole purpose of 2016-08-06 16:44:22.996 for me the whole purpose of 2016-08-06 16:44:25.019 today was how we kind of, at 2016-08-06 16:44:25.038 today was how we kind of, at 2016-08-06 16:44:27.056 this conference, can begin to go 2016-08-06 16:44:27.075 this conference, can begin to go 2016-08-06 16:44:30.107 beyond the front of the house 2016-08-06 16:44:30.126 beyond the front of the house 2016-08-06 16:44:31.108 and how do we get the stages, 2016-08-06 16:44:31.126 and how do we get the stages, 2016-08-06 16:44:34.107 galleries, how do we get those 2016-08-06 16:44:34.125 galleries, how do we get those 2016-08-06 16:44:38.107 other, the creation of art 2016-08-06 16:44:38.125 other, the creation of art 2016-08-06 16:44:41.107 accessible, more accessible and 2016-08-06 16:44:41.125 accessible, more accessible and 2016-08-06 16:44:42.106 inclusive? 2016-08-06 16:44:42.125 inclusive? 2016-08-06 16:44:45.108 What really stuck out was the 2016-08-06 16:44:45.109 idea of getting to know the 2016-08-06 16:44:45.126 What really stuck out was the 2016-08-06 16:44:45.128 idea of getting to know the 2016-08-06 16:44:48.147 artist, how do we go about 2016-08-06 16:44:48.166 artist, how do we go about 2016-08-06 16:44:50.147 finding the artists, how do we 2016-08-06 16:44:50.165 finding the artists, how do we 2016-08-06 16:44:55.147 make -- and I think it takes a 2016-08-06 16:44:55.165 make -- and I think it takes a 2016-08-06 16:44:58.197 little bit of action from a 2016-08-06 16:44:58.215 little bit of action from a 2016-08-06 16:45:00.197 performing arts center. 2016-08-06 16:45:00.216 performing arts center. 2016-08-06 16:45:05.196 And from the averages of that 2016-08-06 16:45:05.215 And from the averages of that 2016-08-06 16:45:09.197 art, to really make the effort. 2016-08-06 16:45:09.216 art, to really make the effort. 2016-08-06 16:45:10.198 It is not only happened once, 2016-08-06 16:45:10.217 It is not only happened once, 2016-08-06 16:45:14.225 how does that happen once, -- 2016-08-06 16:45:14.243 how does that happen once, -- 2016-08-06 16:45:18.227 happen once, it happens again 2016-08-06 16:45:18.228 and again. 2016-08-06 16:45:18.246 happen once, it happens again 2016-08-06 16:45:18.247 and again. 2016-08-06 16:45:20.225 There are artists with 2016-08-06 16:45:20.244 There are artists with 2016-08-06 16:45:22.227 disabilities out there and they 2016-08-06 16:45:22.246 disabilities out there and they 2016-08-06 16:45:23.226 are creating work. 2016-08-06 16:45:23.244 are creating work. 2016-08-06 16:45:25.226 Making the effort to find and 2016-08-06 16:45:25.244 Making the effort to find and 2016-08-06 16:45:27.228 build those relationships. 2016-08-06 16:45:27.247 build those relationships. 2016-08-06 16:45:33.24 Christine: 2016-08-06 16:45:33.259 Christine: 2016-08-06 16:45:34.247 there are a lot of 2016-08-06 16:45:34.265 there are a lot of 2016-08-06 16:45:38.274 resources in this room, we can 2016-08-06 16:45:38.281 rely on each other. 2016-08-06 16:45:38.293 resources in this room, we can 2016-08-06 16:45:38.294 rely on each other. 2016-08-06 16:45:43.271 I will say, when we have 2016-08-06 16:45:43.272 questions, because I am going to 2016-08-06 16:45:43.289 I will say, when we have 2016-08-06 16:45:43.291 questions, because I am going to 2016-08-06 16:45:45.277 assume that those of us in the 2016-08-06 16:45:45.296 assume that those of us in the 2016-08-06 16:45:49.27 room will take these things back 2016-08-06 16:45:49.272 to our respective organizations 2016-08-06 16:45:49.29 room will take these things back 2016-08-06 16:45:49.291 to our respective organizations 2016-08-06 16:45:51.278 and figure out how we can 2016-08-06 16:45:51.279 implement them. 2016-08-06 16:45:51.296 and figure out how we can 2016-08-06 16:45:51.298 implement them. 2016-08-06 16:45:56.316 Because, one of the 2016-08-06 16:45:56.317 things that 2016-08-06 16:45:56.334 Because, one of the 2016-08-06 16:45:56.335 things that 2016-08-06 16:45:59.318 I think is important is that we 2016-08-06 16:45:59.32 do not leave this conversation 2016-08-06 16:45:59.321 in the room. 2016-08-06 16:45:59.336 I think is important is that we 2016-08-06 16:45:59.338 do not leave this conversation 2016-08-06 16:45:59.339 in the room. 2016-08-06 16:46:04.317 That we really take steps, even 2016-08-06 16:46:04.335 That we really take steps, even 2016-08-06 16:46:07.317 if they are baby steps, one or 2016-08-06 16:46:07.336 if they are baby steps, one or 2016-08-06 16:46:10.319 two actionable items that are 2016-08-06 16:46:10.337 two actionable items that are 2016-08-06 16:46:12.319 going to make a difference in 2016-08-06 16:46:12.337 going to make a difference in 2016-08-06 16:46:15.357 our organizations and start to 2016-08-06 16:46:15.376 our organizations and start to 2016-08-06 16:46:16.356 create the seachange. 2016-08-06 16:46:16.375 create the seachange. 2016-08-06 16:46:20.399 Even a shift in the can, if you 2016-08-06 16:46:20.418 Even a shift in the can, if you 2016-08-06 16:46:24.396 go back and say, hey, are we -- 2016-08-06 16:46:24.414 go back and say, hey, are we -- 2016-08-06 16:46:25.397 have we reached out to any 2016-08-06 16:46:25.415 have we reached out to any 2016-08-06 16:46:28.399 artists with disabilities, or 2016-08-06 16:46:28.417 artists with disabilities, or 2016-08-06 16:46:31.397 have we thought about having 2016-08-06 16:46:31.399 somebody with a disability on 2016-08-06 16:46:31.415 have we thought about having 2016-08-06 16:46:31.417 somebody with a disability on 2016-08-06 16:46:32.396 our creative staff? 2016-08-06 16:46:32.415 our creative staff? 2016-08-06 16:46:36.396 Just to start to open ideas 2016-08-06 16:46:36.419 Just to start to open ideas 2016-08-06 16:46:38.397 about that perspective. 2016-08-06 16:46:38.416 about that perspective. 2016-08-06 16:46:41.396 To me, that is the most 2016-08-06 16:46:41.415 To me, that is the most 2016-08-06 16:46:43.446 important thing. 2016-08-06 16:46:43.465 important thing. 2016-08-06 16:46:48.455 So often, David and I do these 2016-08-06 16:46:48.473 So often, David and I do these 2016-08-06 16:46:49.447 types of things, and so often 2016-08-06 16:46:49.449 people say that they have these 2016-08-06 16:46:49.466 types of things, and so often 2016-08-06 16:46:49.468 people say that they have these 2016-08-06 16:46:51.447 great conversations and we are 2016-08-06 16:46:51.466 great conversations and we are 2016-08-06 16:46:55.445 also jazzed, even though our 2016-08-06 16:46:55.464 also jazzed, even though our 2016-08-06 16:46:59.505 heads -- even though we have 2016-08-06 16:46:59.523 heads -- even though we have 2016-08-06 16:47:03.498 been here for a week, and our 2016-08-06 16:47:03.516 been here for a week, and our 2016-08-06 16:47:05.497 heads are full of these ideas, 2016-08-06 16:47:05.516 heads are full of these ideas, 2016-08-06 16:47:07.498 but within -- but then we go 2016-08-06 16:47:07.517 but within -- but then we go 2016-08-06 16:47:11.497 back in our inbox is full and we 2016-08-06 16:47:11.515 back in our inbox is full and we 2016-08-06 16:47:12.496 are overwhelmed with the 57 2016-08-06 16:47:12.515 are overwhelmed with the 57 2016-08-06 16:47:16.526 different hats we wear. 2016-08-06 16:47:16.528 I think if there is a way that 2016-08-06 16:47:16.544 different hats we wear. 2016-08-06 16:47:16.546 I think if there is a way that 2016-08-06 16:47:18.525 we can sort of clear that out of 2016-08-06 16:47:18.544 we can sort of clear that out of 2016-08-06 16:47:21.527 our minds and to, OK, we will 2016-08-06 16:47:21.545 our minds and to, OK, we will 2016-08-06 16:47:23.527 make this a priority. 2016-08-06 16:47:23.546 make this a priority. 2016-08-06 16:47:25.567 Even if it is something small, 2016-08-06 16:47:25.585 Even if it is something small, 2016-08-06 16:47:27.566 that is a step forward. 2016-08-06 16:47:27.585 that is a step forward. 2016-08-06 16:47:31.568 >> I am sitting down, because I 2016-08-06 16:47:31.57 thought it was going to stay 2016-08-06 16:47:31.586 >> I am sitting down, because I 2016-08-06 16:47:31.588 thought it was going to stay 2016-08-06 16:47:34.566 away, but one thing that my ADD 2016-08-06 16:47:34.585 away, but one thing that my ADD 2016-08-06 16:47:37.568 brain does well is it pulled out 2016-08-06 16:47:37.587 brain does well is it pulled out 2016-08-06 16:47:40.566 -- pulls out universal themes. 2016-08-06 16:47:40.584 -- pulls out universal themes. 2016-08-06 16:47:44.566 What I was hearing today was 2016-08-06 16:47:44.585 What I was hearing today was 2016-08-06 16:47:48.565 talking with each other, but one 2016-08-06 16:47:48.584 talking with each other, but one 2016-08-06 16:47:51.607 of the things I also heard was, 2016-08-06 16:47:51.626 of the things I also heard was, 2016-08-06 16:47:52.606 and it struck me especially with 2016-08-06 16:47:52.625 and it struck me especially with 2016-08-06 16:47:56.605 something that vanya said, was 2016-08-06 16:47:56.607 developing trust. 2016-08-06 16:47:56.624 something that vanya said, was 2016-08-06 16:47:56.625 developing trust. 2016-08-06 16:47:59.608 Communication developed trust, 2016-08-06 16:47:59.626 Communication developed trust, 2016-08-06 16:48:04.607 because as Barack was saying, 2016-08-06 16:48:04.631 because as Barack was saying, 2016-08-06 16:48:05.61 there is a level of 2016-08-06 16:48:05.628 there is a level of 2016-08-06 16:48:07.609 vulnerability, especially with 2016-08-06 16:48:07.628 vulnerability, especially with 2016-08-06 16:48:08.609 artists. 2016-08-06 16:48:08.627 artists. 2016-08-06 16:48:12.606 Artists, because I am not one, I 2016-08-06 16:48:12.624 Artists, because I am not one, I 2016-08-06 16:48:14.646 see you all differently. 2016-08-06 16:48:14.664 see you all differently. 2016-08-06 16:48:16.645 I see the courage that you have 2016-08-06 16:48:16.664 I see the courage that you have 2016-08-06 16:48:19.659 in sharing what is inside of you 2016-08-06 16:48:19.677 in sharing what is inside of you 2016-08-06 16:48:20.655 in your art, right? 2016-08-06 16:48:20.674 in your art, right? 2016-08-06 16:48:23.66 But every time that we are 2016-08-06 16:48:23.678 But every time that we are 2016-08-06 16:48:25.656 talking about artists with 2016-08-06 16:48:25.675 talking about artists with 2016-08-06 16:48:27.656 disabilities, and I have this 2016-08-06 16:48:27.675 disabilities, and I have this 2016-08-06 16:48:28.655 conversation with artists with 2016-08-06 16:48:28.674 conversation with artists with 2016-08-06 16:48:31.656 disabilities all the time, is 2016-08-06 16:48:31.674 disabilities all the time, is 2016-08-06 16:48:32.655 that they are listening very 2016-08-06 16:48:32.674 that they are listening very 2016-08-06 16:48:35.658 carefully when you are invited 2016-08-06 16:48:35.676 carefully when you are invited 2016-08-06 16:48:37.657 to work with them, to see 2016-08-06 16:48:37.675 to work with them, to see 2016-08-06 16:48:38.655 whether you are genuinely 2016-08-06 16:48:38.673 whether you are genuinely 2016-08-06 16:48:44.655 interested in them, or whether 2016-08-06 16:48:44.657 you are hoping to tap into 2016-08-06 16:48:44.674 interested in them, or whether 2016-08-06 16:48:44.675 you are hoping to tap into 2016-08-06 16:48:46.656 another stream of funding by 2016-08-06 16:48:46.674 another stream of funding by 2016-08-06 16:48:48.655 having them as a prop. 2016-08-06 16:48:48.674 having them as a prop. 2016-08-06 16:48:49.656 Right? 2016-08-06 16:48:49.675 Right? 2016-08-06 16:48:54.656 And so, what this comes down to 2016-08-06 16:48:54.674 And so, what this comes down to 2016-08-06 16:48:56.697 is authenticity and credibility. 2016-08-06 16:48:56.714 is authenticity and credibility. 2016-08-06 16:48:59.697 I do not want anybody to walk 2016-08-06 16:48:59.715 I do not want anybody to walk 2016-08-06 16:49:01.746 out of this room saying, I will 2016-08-06 16:49:01.764 out of this room saying, I will 2016-08-06 16:49:03.747 have a couple of extras. 2016-08-06 16:49:03.765 have a couple of extras. 2016-08-06 16:49:05.747 Or I like the concept of the guy 2016-08-06 16:49:05.766 Or I like the concept of the guy 2016-08-06 16:49:08.745 without the hand being a zombie 2016-08-06 16:49:08.764 without the hand being a zombie 2016-08-06 16:49:09.745 or a pirate. 2016-08-06 16:49:09.764 or a pirate. 2016-08-06 16:49:11.75 I do not want you to walk out of 2016-08-06 16:49:11.768 I do not want you to walk out of 2016-08-06 16:49:13.747 the room with that. 2016-08-06 16:49:13.766 the room with that. 2016-08-06 16:49:14.745 I want you to walk out with, I 2016-08-06 16:49:14.764 I want you to walk out with, I 2016-08-06 16:49:18.775 want this voice, this 2016-08-06 16:49:18.794 want this voice, this 2016-08-06 16:49:23.815 perspective to be 2016-08-06 16:49:23.816 not just 2016-08-06 16:49:23.834 perspective to be 2016-08-06 16:49:23.835 not just 2016-08-06 16:49:25.816 respected, but celebrated and 2016-08-06 16:49:25.835 respected, but celebrated and 2016-08-06 16:49:27.815 valued, right? 2016-08-06 16:49:27.834 valued, right? 2016-08-06 16:49:32.817 You know, getting ready for the 2016-08-06 16:49:32.835 You know, getting ready for the 2016-08-06 16:49:33.816 our experiences that we have 2016-08-06 16:49:33.834 our experiences that we have 2016-08-06 16:49:35.818 this week. 2016-08-06 16:49:35.836 this week. 2016-08-06 16:49:38.819 And getting ready for this day, 2016-08-06 16:49:38.838 And getting ready for this day, 2016-08-06 16:49:40.826 I came in with ideas of how it 2016-08-06 16:49:40.844 I came in with ideas of how it 2016-08-06 16:49:42.816 would happen, but everything 2016-08-06 16:49:42.834 would happen, but everything 2016-08-06 16:49:46.815 became so much more nuanced 2016-08-06 16:49:46.816 along the way. 2016-08-06 16:49:46.834 became so much more nuanced 2016-08-06 16:49:46.835 along the way. 2016-08-06 16:49:51.817 Our four performers for Thursday 2016-08-06 16:49:51.836 Our four performers for Thursday 2016-08-06 16:49:53.816 night all had incredibly 2016-08-06 16:49:53.835 night all had incredibly 2016-08-06 16:49:56.816 different ways of working, 2016-08-06 16:49:56.834 different ways of working, 2016-08-06 16:49:59.817 incredibly different concerns 2016-08-06 16:49:59.835 incredibly different concerns 2016-08-06 16:50:03.868 from coconut water to wearing a 2016-08-06 16:50:03.884 from coconut water to wearing a 2016-08-06 16:50:07.947 ducky had -- hat, to getting a 2016-08-06 16:50:07.965 ducky had -- hat, to getting a 2016-08-06 16:50:14 room with two beds and 2016-08-06 16:50:14.001 a rolling 2016-08-06 16:50:14.018 room with two beds and 2016-08-06 16:50:14.019 a rolling 2016-08-06 16:50:16.995 shower, which I did not know was 2016-08-06 16:50:17.014 shower, which I did not know was 2016-08-06 16:50:19.006 available in the hotel. 2016-08-06 16:50:19.024 available in the hotel. 2016-08-06 16:50:25.006 It required so much 2016-08-06 16:50:25.007 hospitality, 2016-08-06 16:50:25.024 It required so much 2016-08-06 16:50:25.025 hospitality, 2016-08-06 16:50:27.007 like Ryan was saying, 2016-08-06 16:50:27.025 like Ryan was saying, 2016-08-06 16:50:29.026 hospitality industry. 2016-08-06 16:50:29.045 hospitality industry. 2016-08-06 16:50:33.026 And a desire to make it a smooth 2016-08-06 16:50:33.045 And a desire to make it a smooth 2016-08-06 16:50:35.025 and pleasant experience, and I 2016-08-06 16:50:35.044 and pleasant experience, and I 2016-08-06 16:50:38.028 think -- and there were, we 2016-08-06 16:50:38.046 think -- and there were, we 2016-08-06 16:50:41.025 worked really hard to let people 2016-08-06 16:50:41.044 worked really hard to let people 2016-08-06 16:50:42.026 know that we wanted them to come 2016-08-06 16:50:42.044 know that we wanted them to come 2016-08-06 16:50:44.031 for themselves. 2016-08-06 16:50:44.05 for themselves. 2016-08-06 16:50:48.036 Not to be the representative of 2016-08-06 16:50:48.054 Not to be the representative of 2016-08-06 16:50:52.026 black artists with disabilities, 2016-08-06 16:50:52.028 or to be the single 2016-08-06 16:50:52.046 black artists with disabilities, 2016-08-06 16:50:52.047 or to be the single 2016-08-06 16:50:55.039 representative of people who use 2016-08-06 16:50:55.058 representative of people who use 2016-08-06 16:50:58.025 wheelchairs, you know? 2016-08-06 16:50:58.043 wheelchairs, you know? 2016-08-06 16:51:00.025 We wanted people to be 2016-08-06 16:51:00.044 We wanted people to be 2016-08-06 16:51:01.039 themselves. 2016-08-06 16:51:01.058 themselves. 2016-08-06 16:51:06.035 There is a level of tokenism 2016-08-06 16:51:06.054 There is a level of tokenism 2016-08-06 16:51:07.036 that comes with this. 2016-08-06 16:51:07.054 that comes with this. 2016-08-06 16:51:09.037 But it should be, I want to 2016-08-06 16:51:09.056 But it should be, I want to 2016-08-06 16:51:11.035 listen to you as a person. 2016-08-06 16:51:11.054 listen to you as a person. 2016-08-06 16:51:13.037 That is probably how we should 2016-08-06 16:51:13.055 That is probably how we should 2016-08-06 16:51:15.077 approach everybody in the world. 2016-08-06 16:51:15.096 approach everybody in the world. 2016-08-06 16:51:18.075 That is what I have learned from 2016-08-06 16:51:18.093 That is what I have learned from 2016-08-06 16:51:21.075 all of this, that you, this is 2016-08-06 16:51:21.093 all of this, that you, this is 2016-08-06 16:51:22.073 hard work but it has been the 2016-08-06 16:51:22.091 hard work but it has been the 2016-08-06 16:51:24.075 best work. 2016-08-06 16:51:24.093 best work. 2016-08-06 16:51:29.076 Christine: I think if you look 2016-08-06 16:51:29.094 Christine: I think if you look 2016-08-06 16:51:31.071 at it from the perspective of 2016-08-06 16:51:31.09 at it from the perspective of 2016-08-06 16:51:35.072 putting the art first, it will 2016-08-06 16:51:35.091 putting the art first, it will 2016-08-06 16:51:36.118 be way ahead of the game. 2016-08-06 16:51:36.136 be way ahead of the game. 2016-08-06 16:51:41.154 Because when you deal with 2016-08-06 16:51:41.155 a 2016-08-06 16:51:41.173 Because when you deal with 2016-08-06 16:51:41.173 a 2016-08-06 16:51:43.153 nondisabled actor, you have a 2016-08-06 16:51:43.171 nondisabled actor, you have a 2016-08-06 16:51:45.155 company manager who sets all of 2016-08-06 16:51:45.174 company manager who sets all of 2016-08-06 16:51:48.157 that up and there will be actors 2016-08-06 16:51:48.175 that up and there will be actors 2016-08-06 16:51:52.156 who have specific concerns. 2016-08-06 16:51:52.158 They may not have anything to do 2016-08-06 16:51:52.175 who have specific concerns. 2016-08-06 16:51:52.177 They may not have anything to do 2016-08-06 16:51:55.156 with access requirements, or 2016-08-06 16:51:55.174 with access requirements, or 2016-08-06 16:51:59.203 they may, but they may just be 2016-08-06 16:51:59.205 requirements of that figure 2016-08-06 16:51:59.222 they may, but they may just be 2016-08-06 16:51:59.223 requirements of that figure 2016-08-06 16:52:02.207 artist and you know you have to 2016-08-06 16:52:02.226 artist and you know you have to 2016-08-06 16:52:04.206 -- of that particular artist 2016-08-06 16:52:04.225 -- of that particular artist 2016-08-06 16:52:09.205 Andy -- artists and you need to 2016-08-06 16:52:09.224 Andy -- artists and you need to 2016-08-06 16:52:11.205 make sure that the artist is 2016-08-06 16:52:11.223 make sure that the artist is 2016-08-06 16:52:12.199 functioning at optimal level so 2016-08-06 16:52:12.218 functioning at optimal level so 2016-08-06 16:52:14.259 they can make the best art they 2016-08-06 16:52:14.277 they can make the best art they 2016-08-06 16:52:15.258 know how to make. 2016-08-06 16:52:15.277 know how to make. 2016-08-06 16:52:21.259 And I think we look at that 2016-08-06 16:52:21.26 that 2016-08-06 16:52:21.278 And I think we look at that 2016-08-06 16:52:21.279 that 2016-08-06 16:52:23.285 way, we argue racing all of the 2016-08-06 16:52:23.304 way, we argue racing all of the 2016-08-06 16:52:28.325 -- then we are erasing 2016-08-06 16:52:28.326 all of 2016-08-06 16:52:28.343 -- then we are erasing 2016-08-06 16:52:28.344 all of 2016-08-06 16:52:30.327 the categorizations. 2016-08-06 16:52:30.345 the categorizations. 2016-08-06 16:52:33.325 Some but he said -- somebody 2016-08-06 16:52:33.344 Some but he said -- somebody 2016-08-06 16:52:36.325 said, we were facilitating a 2016-08-06 16:52:36.343 said, we were facilitating a 2016-08-06 16:52:38.327 panel a few months ago, and 2016-08-06 16:52:38.345 panel a few months ago, and 2016-08-06 16:52:42.365 somebody said -- and I wanted to 2016-08-06 16:52:42.383 somebody said -- and I wanted to 2016-08-06 16:52:43.365 say this before when working 2016-08-06 16:52:43.384 say this before when working 2016-08-06 16:52:48.409 with deaf actors 2016-08-06 16:52:48.428 with deaf actors 2016-08-06 16:52:51.404 , they face 2016-08-06 16:52:51.423 , they face 2016-08-06 16:52:53.407 issues that other disabled 2016-08-06 16:52:53.425 issues that other disabled 2016-08-06 16:52:55.404 actors do not face, because a 2016-08-06 16:52:55.423 actors do not face, because a 2016-08-06 16:52:59.405 lot of the pushback that they 2016-08-06 16:52:59.424 lot of the pushback that they 2016-08-06 16:53:01.406 receive is funding, money. 2016-08-06 16:53:01.424 receive is funding, money. 2016-08-06 16:53:05.405 It costs too much to have 2016-08-06 16:53:05.424 It costs too much to have 2016-08-06 16:53:08.456 interpreters, it costs too much 2016-08-06 16:53:08.475 interpreters, it costs too much 2016-08-06 16:53:10.457 to have interpreters for 2016-08-06 16:53:10.458 auditions. 2016-08-06 16:53:10.477 to have interpreters for 2016-08-06 16:53:10.478 auditions. 2016-08-06 16:53:14.455 It is not an unreasonable 2016-08-06 16:53:14.473 It is not an unreasonable 2016-08-06 16:53:17.454 request for a death after to act 2016-08-06 16:53:17.472 request for a death after to act 2016-08-06 16:53:25.515 -- four A -- for a 2016-08-06 16:53:25.516 deaf 2016-08-06 16:53:25.518 interpreter, somebody that knows 2016-08-06 16:53:25.534 -- four A -- for a 2016-08-06 16:53:25.535 deaf 2016-08-06 16:53:25.536 interpreter, somebody that knows 2016-08-06 16:53:28.508 how to accurately interpret 2016-08-06 16:53:28.527 how to accurately interpret 2016-08-06 16:53:30.509 auditions for deaf actors, which 2016-08-06 16:53:30.527 auditions for deaf actors, which 2016-08-06 16:53:33.504 I think DJ started to stop -- to 2016-08-06 16:53:33.523 I think DJ started to stop -- to 2016-08-06 16:53:35.505 talk about. 2016-08-06 16:53:35.524 talk about. 2016-08-06 16:53:38.506 And somebody on the panel had a 2016-08-06 16:53:38.525 And somebody on the panel had a 2016-08-06 16:53:40.507 lightbulb moment, she said, I do 2016-08-06 16:53:40.526 lightbulb moment, she said, I do 2016-08-06 16:53:43.535 not understand why it is such a 2016-08-06 16:53:43.536 big deal. 2016-08-06 16:53:43.553 not understand why it is such a 2016-08-06 16:53:43.555 big deal. 2016-08-06 16:53:48.574 When we have a 2016-08-06 16:53:48.594 When we have a 2016-08-06 16:53:50.576 music audition, 2016-08-06 16:53:50.595 music audition, 2016-08-06 16:53:55.666 the accompanist comes and place 2016-08-06 16:53:55.668 for maybe 90 seconds, then they 2016-08-06 16:53:55.684 the accompanist comes and place 2016-08-06 16:53:55.686 for maybe 90 seconds, then they 2016-08-06 16:53:57.666 do nothing for five minutes, and 2016-08-06 16:53:57.685 do nothing for five minutes, and 2016-08-06 16:54:01.665 we do not that -- bat an eyelash 2016-08-06 16:54:01.684 we do not that -- bat an eyelash 2016-08-06 16:54:02.667 when we are building that 2016-08-06 16:54:02.685 when we are building that 2016-08-06 16:54:05.676 expense into the budget. 2016-08-06 16:54:05.695 expense into the budget. 2016-08-06 16:54:07.666 Why do we not afford the same 2016-08-06 16:54:07.684 Why do we not afford the same 2016-08-06 16:54:10.666 consideration to deaf actors. 2016-08-06 16:54:10.668 I think of we level the playing 2016-08-06 16:54:10.684 consideration to deaf actors. 2016-08-06 16:54:10.686 I think of we level the playing 2016-08-06 16:54:13.66 field by thinking of it as, what 2016-08-06 16:54:13.679 field by thinking of it as, what 2016-08-06 16:54:15.705 will make the artist we are 2016-08-06 16:54:15.724 will make the artist we are 2016-08-06 16:54:17.756 bringing in, what will make it 2016-08-06 16:54:17.774 bringing in, what will make it 2016-08-06 16:54:19.755 conducive for them to do the 2016-08-06 16:54:19.774 conducive for them to do the 2016-08-06 16:54:20.756 best work they can do. 2016-08-06 16:54:20.775 best work they can do. 2016-08-06 16:54:23.755 So we can see where they are 2016-08-06 16:54:23.774 So we can see where they are 2016-08-06 16:54:26.757 capable of doing, that makes it 2016-08-06 16:54:26.775 capable of doing, that makes it 2016-08-06 16:54:28.757 a lot easier to move forward in 2016-08-06 16:54:28.758 our thinking. 2016-08-06 16:54:28.776 a lot easier to move forward in 2016-08-06 16:54:28.777 our thinking. 2016-08-06 16:54:33.786 >> I 2016-08-06 16:54:33.805 >> I 2016-08-06 16:54:35.785 wanted to see the thoughts 2016-08-06 16:54:35.787 in the room. 2016-08-06 16:54:35.804 wanted to see the thoughts 2016-08-06 16:54:35.805 in the room. 2016-08-06 16:54:39.786 Tiffany: especially those who 2016-08-06 16:54:39.804 Tiffany: especially those who 2016-08-06 16:54:40.786 have not had a chance to say 2016-08-06 16:54:40.788 anything today. 2016-08-06 16:54:40.805 have not had a chance to say 2016-08-06 16:54:40.806 anything today. 2016-08-06 16:54:43.789 And I am curious how Betty and 2016-08-06 16:54:43.807 And I am curious how Betty and 2016-08-06 16:54:45.788 Jessica feel about the day. 2016-08-06 16:54:45.811 Jessica feel about the day. 2016-08-06 16:54:47.785 Their thoughts on this whole 2016-08-06 16:54:47.803 Their thoughts on this whole 2016-08-06 16:54:48.785 thing. 2016-08-06 16:54:48.803 thing. 2016-08-06 16:54:50.787 Let me know if you want to say 2016-08-06 16:54:50.789 anything. 2016-08-06 16:54:50.805 Let me know if you want to say 2016-08-06 16:54:50.807 anything. 2016-08-06 16:54:53.786 Anybody else want to say 2016-08-06 16:54:53.805 Anybody else want to say 2016-08-06 16:54:54.786 anything? 2016-08-06 16:54:54.804 anything? 2016-08-06 16:55:00.874 >> 2016-08-06 16:55:00.893 >> 2016-08-06 16:55:02.915 I do not know why I am always 2016-08-06 16:55:02.916 saying something. 2016-08-06 16:55:02.933 I do not know why I am always 2016-08-06 16:55:02.935 saying something. 2016-08-06 16:55:06.915 I am glad that you mentioned 2016-08-06 16:55:06.934 I am glad that you mentioned 2016-08-06 16:55:07.915 that he and Jessica, because one 2016-08-06 16:55:07.933 that he and Jessica, because one 2016-08-06 16:55:12.916 of my questions -- Betty and 2016-08-06 16:55:12.918 Jessica, because when my 2016-08-06 16:55:12.935 of my questions -- Betty and 2016-08-06 16:55:12.937 Jessica, because when my 2016-08-06 16:55:16.915 questions was, this is my first 2016-08-06 16:55:16.934 questions was, this is my first 2016-08-06 16:55:18.915 time here, but I do not know 2016-08-06 16:55:18.917 enough about the follow-up 2016-08-06 16:55:18.934 time here, but I do not know 2016-08-06 16:55:18.935 enough about the follow-up 2016-08-06 16:55:22.956 opportunities through lead. 2016-08-06 16:55:22.974 opportunities through lead. 2016-08-06 16:55:26.007 One thing I would love to have 2016-08-06 16:55:26.026 One thing I would love to have 2016-08-06 16:55:30.006 Outlook today is -- to have out 2016-08-06 16:55:30.025 Outlook today is -- to have out 2016-08-06 16:55:34.007 of today, if there is any 2016-08-06 16:55:34.025 of today, if there is any 2016-08-06 16:55:38.005 notetaking that has happened 2016-08-06 16:55:38.007 sort of universally, giving the 2016-08-06 16:55:38.023 notetaking that has happened 2016-08-06 16:55:38.025 sort of universally, giving the 2016-08-06 16:55:42.004 website people have mentioned, 2016-08-06 16:55:42.022 website people have mentioned, 2016-08-06 16:55:44.055 or some of the spellings of some 2016-08-06 16:55:44.074 or some of the spellings of some 2016-08-06 16:55:45.076 of the things I have been 2016-08-06 16:55:45.095 of the things I have been 2016-08-06 16:55:46.075 unfamiliar with. 2016-08-06 16:55:46.094 unfamiliar with. 2016-08-06 16:55:48.079 And maybe Google could not find 2016-08-06 16:55:48.098 And maybe Google could not find 2016-08-06 16:55:51.076 them, because I heard them 2016-08-06 16:55:51.077 wrong. 2016-08-06 16:55:51.094 them, because I heard them 2016-08-06 16:55:51.096 wrong. 2016-08-06 16:55:54.089 And is there a Facebook page 2016-08-06 16:55:54.108 And is there a Facebook page 2016-08-06 16:55:56.089 that people can post to and 2016-08-06 16:55:56.105 that people can post to and 2016-08-06 16:55:58.085 share through, or another way of 2016-08-06 16:55:58.103 share through, or another way of 2016-08-06 16:55:59.085 doing that? 2016-08-06 16:55:59.103 doing that? 2016-08-06 16:56:02.088 That would be great information 2016-08-06 16:56:02.106 That would be great information 2016-08-06 16:56:03.077 for me to have. 2016-08-06 16:56:03.095 for me to have. 2016-08-06 16:56:10.165 Tiffany: the captioning 2016-08-06 16:56:10.183 Tiffany: the captioning 2016-08-06 16:56:14.164 happening today is already on 2016-08-06 16:56:14.182 happening today is already on 2016-08-06 16:56:17.164 howlaround. 2016-08-06 16:56:17.183 howlaround. 2016-08-06 16:56:22.163 >> it will be available -- yes? 2016-08-06 16:56:22.182 >> it will be available -- yes? 2016-08-06 16:56:28.165 >> this is Betty 2016-08-06 16:56:28.166 Siegal, thank 2016-08-06 16:56:28.183 >> this is Betty 2016-08-06 16:56:28.184 Siegal, thank 2016-08-06 16:56:30.167 you so much for all 2016-08-06 16:56:30.186 you so much for all 2016-08-06 16:56:32.206 participating and being such an 2016-08-06 16:56:32.224 participating and being such an 2016-08-06 16:56:35.207 amazing speakers and sharers of 2016-08-06 16:56:35.226 amazing speakers and sharers of 2016-08-06 16:56:37.256 fabulous experiences and 2016-08-06 16:56:37.257 information. 2016-08-06 16:56:37.274 fabulous experiences and 2016-08-06 16:56:37.276 information. 2016-08-06 16:56:42.264 We do, if you have 2016-08-06 16:56:43.261 attended 2016-08-06 16:56:43.28 We do, if you have attended 2016-08-06 16:56:45.26 lead, one of the benefits of 2016-08-06 16:56:45.279 lead, one of the benefits of 2016-08-06 16:56:47.257 attending is that you get to 2016-08-06 16:56:47.275 attending is that you get to 2016-08-06 16:56:49.261 participate on a listserv that 2016-08-06 16:56:49.279 participate on a listserv that 2016-08-06 16:56:53.259 we have run for many years. 2016-08-06 16:56:53.261 It is where we throw out 2016-08-06 16:56:53.278 we have run for many years. 2016-08-06 16:56:53.28 It is where we throw out 2016-08-06 16:56:55.255 questions to one another, our 2016-08-06 16:56:55.274 questions to one another, our 2016-08-06 16:57:00.257 peers, for guidance, advice, and 2016-08-06 16:57:00.259 information, so you need to come 2016-08-06 16:57:00.275 peers, for guidance, advice, and 2016-08-06 16:57:00.277 information, so you need to come 2016-08-06 16:57:03.255 to lead to be able to get on the 2016-08-06 16:57:03.274 to lead to be able to get on the 2016-08-06 16:57:06.253 list serve. 2016-08-06 16:57:06.272 list serve. 2016-08-06 16:57:07.255 This is my plug to come to 2016-08-06 16:57:07.278 This is my plug to come to 2016-08-06 16:57:11.366 Austin, Texas in 2017. 2016-08-06 16:57:11.385 Austin, Texas in 2017. 2016-08-06 16:57:13.406 Generally, since you asked for 2016-08-06 16:57:13.423 Generally, since you asked for 2016-08-06 16:57:17.377 an opinion, we really feel very 2016-08-06 16:57:17.395 an opinion, we really feel very 2016-08-06 16:57:22.374 strongly about the impact that 2016-08-06 16:57:22.392 strongly about the impact that 2016-08-06 16:57:24.375 these kinds of conversations can 2016-08-06 16:57:24.393 these kinds of conversations can 2016-08-06 16:57:25.375 have on us as a community. 2016-08-06 16:57:25.394 have on us as a community. 2016-08-06 16:57:28.369 We also really strongly believe, 2016-08-06 16:57:28.388 We also really strongly believe, 2016-08-06 16:57:30.376 and I think this is true when we 2016-08-06 16:57:30.395 and I think this is true when we 2016-08-06 16:57:34.374 look at the values of Kennedy 2016-08-06 16:57:34.392 look at the values of Kennedy 2016-08-06 16:57:37.374 himself, the values of service 2016-08-06 16:57:37.393 himself, the values of service 2016-08-06 16:57:40.454 and courage, that art, good art 2016-08-06 16:57:40.473 and courage, that art, good art 2016-08-06 16:57:42.456 is what we are looking for. 2016-08-06 16:57:42.474 is what we are looking for. 2016-08-06 16:57:46.454 Good art changes and shapes 2016-08-06 16:57:46.455 society. 2016-08-06 16:57:46.472 Good art changes and shapes 2016-08-06 16:57:46.473 society. 2016-08-06 16:57:47.499 And we need to be open to good 2016-08-06 16:57:47.518 And we need to be open to good 2016-08-06 16:57:50.456 art, regardless of where it 2016-08-06 16:57:50.474 art, regardless of where it 2016-08-06 16:57:53.456 comes from, who it comes from, 2016-08-06 16:57:53.474 comes from, who it comes from, 2016-08-06 16:57:55.457 and why it is coming up. 2016-08-06 16:57:55.475 and why it is coming up. 2016-08-06 16:57:58.455 So thank you for helping us 2016-08-06 16:57:58.456 identify that. 2016-08-06 16:57:58.473 So thank you for helping us 2016-08-06 16:57:58.474 identify that. 2016-08-06 16:58:04.554 Tiffany: one of the things that 2016-08-06 16:58:04.572 Tiffany: one of the things that 2016-08-06 16:58:07.554 came out for me in the day -- 2016-08-06 16:58:07.573 came out for me in the day -- 2016-08-06 16:58:10.553 >> thinking about the ways that 2016-08-06 16:58:10.572 >> thinking about the ways that 2016-08-06 16:58:12.559 I started and learning about all 2016-08-06 16:58:12.578 I started and learning about all 2016-08-06 16:58:15.56 the audience access ways and 2016-08-06 16:58:15.579 the audience access ways and 2016-08-06 16:58:16.554 accommodations. 2016-08-06 16:58:16.572 accommodations. 2016-08-06 16:58:18.555 And to take it to this level, 2016-08-06 16:58:18.582 And to take it to this level, 2016-08-06 16:58:20.554 the late -- the way the 2016-08-06 16:58:20.572 the late -- the way the 2016-08-06 16:58:22.59 relationships are built and the 2016-08-06 16:58:22.604 relationships are built and the 2016-08-06 16:58:23.628 way that we move through the 2016-08-06 16:58:23.647 way that we move through the 2016-08-06 16:58:26.667 world with the artists we are 2016-08-06 16:58:26.685 world with the artists we are 2016-08-06 16:58:28.665 working with, doing things to 2016-08-06 16:58:28.683 working with, doing things to 2016-08-06 16:58:32.665 represent them, host them, it is 2016-08-06 16:58:32.667 so much deeper and more 2016-08-06 16:58:32.684 represent them, host them, it is 2016-08-06 16:58:32.685 so much deeper and more 2016-08-06 16:58:34.665 transformative. 2016-08-06 16:58:34.683 transformative. 2016-08-06 16:58:35.665 For an institution and the 2016-08-06 16:58:35.683 For an institution and the 2016-08-06 16:58:37.664 individuals working together and 2016-08-06 16:58:37.683 individuals working together and 2016-08-06 16:58:38.663 all the humans connecting around 2016-08-06 16:58:38.682 all the humans connecting around 2016-08-06 16:58:42.665 it, that is another powerful 2016-08-06 16:58:42.683 it, that is another powerful 2016-08-06 16:58:43.665 point in all of this. 2016-08-06 16:58:43.683 point in all of this. 2016-08-06 16:58:45.665 >> I want to say something about 2016-08-06 16:58:45.683 >> I want to say something about 2016-08-06 16:58:48.665 you, Barack. 2016-08-06 16:58:48.683 you, Barack. 2016-08-06 16:58:53.665 We hired one of my colleagues, 2016-08-06 16:58:53.683 We hired one of my colleagues, 2016-08-06 16:58:55.664 who is a multidisciplinary and 2016-08-06 16:58:55.683 who is a multidisciplinary and 2016-08-06 16:58:58.672 artist -- disciplinary artist, 2016-08-06 16:58:58.69 artist -- disciplinary artist, 2016-08-06 16:59:00.674 two-stage the performance on -- 2016-08-06 16:59:00.692 two-stage the performance on -- 2016-08-06 16:59:03.68 to stage the performance on 2016-08-06 16:59:03.699 to stage the performance on 2016-08-06 16:59:04.714 Thursday night in and last night 2016-08-06 16:59:04.732 Thursday night in and last night 2016-08-06 16:59:09.755 I was 2016-08-06 16:59:09.756 texting her. 2016-08-06 16:59:09.774 I was 2016-08-06 16:59:09.775 texting her. 2016-08-06 16:59:12.757 And I looked at it and she said, 2016-08-06 16:59:12.775 And I looked at it and she said, 2016-08-06 16:59:16.805 make sure, she said, thank you 2016-08-06 16:59:16.823 make sure, she said, thank you 2016-08-06 16:59:19.805 for hiring me to stage manage 2016-08-06 16:59:19.824 for hiring me to stage manage 2016-08-06 16:59:21.806 because I learned more than I 2016-08-06 16:59:21.825 because I learned more than I 2016-08-06 16:59:22.804 gave back. 2016-08-06 16:59:22.822 gave back. 2016-08-06 16:59:26.814 And I already know, 48 hours 2016-08-06 16:59:26.833 And I already know, 48 hours 2016-08-06 16:59:29.81 later, that this has upped my 2016-08-06 16:59:29.828 later, that this has upped my 2016-08-06 16:59:31.834 art more than I thought I could. 2016-08-06 16:59:31.853 art more than I thought I could. 2016-08-06 16:59:34.875 And that was a very brief day. 2016-08-06 16:59:34.894 And that was a very brief day. 2016-08-06 16:59:36.873 Right? 2016-08-06 16:59:36.892 Right? 2016-08-06 16:59:42.885 And so, I am just 2016-08-06 16:59:42.885 saying, the 2016-08-06 16:59:42.903 And so, I am just 2016-08-06 16:59:42.904 saying, the 2016-08-06 16:59:45.875 one question I heard -- how has 2016-08-06 16:59:45.894 one question I heard -- how has 2016-08-06 16:59:47.874 this impacted organizations? 2016-08-06 16:59:47.893 this impacted organizations? 2016-08-06 16:59:51.885 Every single organization that 2016-08-06 16:59:51.904 Every single organization that 2016-08-06 16:59:53.925 we talked to about participating 2016-08-06 16:59:53.943 we talked to about participating 2016-08-06 16:59:54.924 in this day, every single arts 2016-08-06 16:59:54.943 in this day, every single arts 2016-08-06 16:59:56.965 manager said, working with an 2016-08-06 16:59:56.984 manager said, working with an 2016-08-06 16:59:59.966 artist with a disability changed 2016-08-06 16:59:59.984 artist with a disability changed 2016-08-06 17:00:02.964 them, the organization, their 2016-08-06 17:00:02.983 them, the organization, their 2016-08-06 17:00:05.965 work, it was like an exponential 2016-08-06 17:00:05.983 work, it was like an exponential 2016-08-06 17:00:07.964 leap. 2016-08-06 17:00:07.983 leap. 2016-08-06 17:00:10.964 Christine: I also think it 2016-08-06 17:00:10.983 Christine: I also think it 2016-08-06 17:00:14.965 changes the interaction with 2016-08-06 17:00:14.983 changes the interaction with 2016-08-06 17:00:18.015 audience access, when you are 2016-08-06 17:00:18.033 audience access, when you are 2016-08-06 17:00:20.016 working with disabled artists. 2016-08-06 17:00:20.034 working with disabled artists. 2016-08-06 17:00:23.014 It changes the conversation, it 2016-08-06 17:00:23.032 It changes the conversation, it 2016-08-06 17:00:26.069 opens the conversation in ways 2016-08-06 17:00:26.07 that people are not even aware 2016-08-06 17:00:26.087 opens the conversation in ways 2016-08-06 17:00:26.089 that people are not even aware 2016-08-06 17:00:27.065 of. 2016-08-06 17:00:27.084 of. 2016-08-06 17:00:30.064 Because then they are looking at 2016-08-06 17:00:30.083 Because then they are looking at 2016-08-06 17:00:32.064 the entire picture. 2016-08-06 17:00:32.083 the entire picture. 2016-08-06 17:00:34.066 >> Barack? 2016-08-06 17:00:34.084 >> Barack? 2016-08-06 17:00:41.096 Brock -- barack 2016-08-06 17:00:41.125 Brock -- barack 2016-08-06 17:00:43.084 : I forget your 2016-08-06 17:00:43.102 : I forget your 2016-08-06 17:00:45.084 name, Sarah. 2016-08-06 17:00:45.103 name, Sarah. 2016-08-06 17:00:47.084 This talks to the notion of what 2016-08-06 17:00:47.103 This talks to the notion of what 2016-08-06 17:00:49.084 happens next. 2016-08-06 17:00:49.102 happens next. 2016-08-06 17:00:51.092 Brandon was telling me about the 2016-08-06 17:00:51.111 Brandon was telling me about the 2016-08-06 17:00:54.084 ways in which they are creating 2016-08-06 17:00:54.103 ways in which they are creating 2016-08-06 17:00:56.085 learning communities, and I 2016-08-06 17:00:56.104 learning communities, and I 2016-08-06 17:00:59.096 thought, that is so incredible. 2016-08-06 17:00:59.115 thought, that is so incredible. 2016-08-06 17:01:02.095 Each community, that they still 2016-08-06 17:01:02.113 Each community, that they still 2016-08-06 17:01:05.084 milling within their own -- that 2016-08-06 17:01:05.103 milling within their own -- that 2016-08-06 17:01:07.083 they stimulate within their own 2016-08-06 17:01:07.322 they stimulate within their own 2016-08-06 17:01:09.084 community. 2016-08-06 17:01:09.103 community. 2016-08-06 17:01:10.084 I am fascinated with that idea. 2016-08-06 17:01:10.103 I am fascinated with that idea. 2016-08-06 17:01:13.095 Even with those that were not a 2016-08-06 17:01:13.113 Even with those that were not a 2016-08-06 17:01:15.1 part of this conference, because 2016-08-06 17:01:15.119 part of this conference, because 2016-08-06 17:01:17.096 that is a continuation of the 2016-08-06 17:01:17.097 conversation. 2016-08-06 17:01:17.114 that is a continuation of the 2016-08-06 17:01:17.116 conversation. 2016-08-06 17:01:20.095 So I want to affirm that, I 2016-08-06 17:01:20.113 So I want to affirm that, I 2016-08-06 17:01:22.095 wanted to shine a light on the 2016-08-06 17:01:22.113 wanted to shine a light on the 2016-08-06 17:01:24.095 notion of learning communities 2016-08-06 17:01:24.113 notion of learning communities 2016-08-06 17:01:27.094 and building that as continued 2016-08-06 17:01:27.096 conversation. 2016-08-06 17:01:27.113 and building that as continued 2016-08-06 17:01:27.114 conversation. 2016-08-06 17:01:32.095 And one of the things I always 2016-08-06 17:01:32.097 desired, because I am into 2016-08-06 17:01:32.114 And one of the things I always 2016-08-06 17:01:32.115 desired, because I am into 2016-08-06 17:01:36.094 networks, is that in this room, 2016-08-06 17:01:36.113 networks, is that in this room, 2016-08-06 17:01:38.094 there are those who have talked 2016-08-06 17:01:38.113 there are those who have talked 2016-08-06 17:01:41.095 and shared, but I have not had 2016-08-06 17:01:41.113 and shared, but I have not had 2016-08-06 17:01:43.095 the opportunity to go around the 2016-08-06 17:01:43.096 room. 2016-08-06 17:01:43.114 the opportunity to go around the 2016-08-06 17:01:43.12 room. 2016-08-06 17:01:46.134 I do not know if we have time to 2016-08-06 17:01:46.136 do that. 2016-08-06 17:01:46.153 I do not know if we have time to 2016-08-06 17:01:46.154 do that. 2016-08-06 17:01:49.173 I'm not connected necessarily to 2016-08-06 17:01:49.192 I'm not connected necessarily to 2016-08-06 17:01:52.214 a listserv, so I am wondering if 2016-08-06 17:01:52.233 a listserv, so I am wondering if 2016-08-06 17:01:55.214 there is an opportunity to talk 2016-08-06 17:01:55.232 there is an opportunity to talk 2016-08-06 17:01:57.215 to people and share who they are 2016-08-06 17:01:57.216 and where they are from. 2016-08-06 17:01:57.233 to people and share who they are 2016-08-06 17:01:57.235 and where they are from. 2016-08-06 17:02:03.214 >> one of our goals today was 2016-08-06 17:02:03.215 , 2016-08-06 17:02:03.232 >> one of our goals today was 2016-08-06 17:02:03.233 , 2016-08-06 17:02:05.215 there are people doing this 2016-08-06 17:02:05.217 work, you guys have been doing 2016-08-06 17:02:05.233 there are people doing this 2016-08-06 17:02:05.235 work, you guys have been doing 2016-08-06 17:02:08.215 it for decades. 2016-08-06 17:02:08.233 it for decades. 2016-08-06 17:02:10.215 We want to build the national 2016-08-06 17:02:10.216 network. 2016-08-06 17:02:10.233 We want to build the national 2016-08-06 17:02:10.235 network. 2016-08-06 17:02:15.266 And we wanted to have 2016-08-06 17:02:15.267 this 2016-08-06 17:02:15.268 conversation be the beginning, 2016-08-06 17:02:15.284 And we wanted to have 2016-08-06 17:02:15.285 this 2016-08-06 17:02:15.287 conversation be the beginning, 2016-08-06 17:02:18.269 but I have no brain space to 2016-08-06 17:02:18.288 but I have no brain space to 2016-08-06 17:02:19.264 figure out what is happening 2016-08-06 17:02:19.283 figure out what is happening 2016-08-06 17:02:21.264 next, or how we will build the 2016-08-06 17:02:21.283 next, or how we will build the 2016-08-06 17:02:24.266 network or what shape it will 2016-08-06 17:02:24.267 be. 2016-08-06 17:02:24.285 network or what shape it will 2016-08-06 17:02:24.286 be. 2016-08-06 17:02:27.315 Nor do I want to do that. 2016-08-06 17:02:27.333 Nor do I want to do that. 2016-08-06 17:02:30.315 Personally, myself. 2016-08-06 17:02:30.334 Personally, myself. 2016-08-06 17:02:33.315 He comes I do not know -- 2016-08-06 17:02:33.334 He comes I do not know -- 2016-08-06 17:02:36.316 because, I do not know if I am 2016-08-06 17:02:36.317 qualified to do it. 2016-08-06 17:02:36.334 because, I do not know if I am 2016-08-06 17:02:36.336 qualified to do it. 2016-08-06 17:02:40.315 My question is for you, you do 2016-08-06 17:02:40.333 My question is for you, you do 2016-08-06 17:02:42.315 not have to answer it now, but 2016-08-06 17:02:42.334 not have to answer it now, but 2016-08-06 17:02:47.344 we can post something, we 2016-08-06 17:02:47.345 can 2016-08-06 17:02:47.35 find a format to share 2016-08-06 17:02:47.362 we can post something, we 2016-08-06 17:02:47.363 can 2016-08-06 17:02:47.364 find a format to share 2016-08-06 17:02:49.346 information with you. 2016-08-06 17:02:49.364 information with you. 2016-08-06 17:02:50.348 And if you would like us to 2016-08-06 17:02:50.366 And if you would like us to 2016-08-06 17:02:52.343 share contact information with 2016-08-06 17:02:52.361 share contact information with 2016-08-06 17:02:54.344 you, let us know. 2016-08-06 17:02:54.362 you, let us know. 2016-08-06 17:02:57.464 What I am hoping, we will find a 2016-08-06 17:02:57.483 What I am hoping, we will find a 2016-08-06 17:03:00.464 way to get the word out, because 2016-08-06 17:03:00.483 way to get the word out, because 2016-08-06 17:03:03.463 doing have most e-mail addresses 2016-08-06 17:03:03.482 doing have most e-mail addresses 2016-08-06 17:03:04.475 , Tiffany? 2016-08-06 17:03:04.493 , Tiffany? 2016-08-06 17:03:07.463 Tiffany: I think we have most 2016-08-06 17:03:07.482 Tiffany: I think we have most 2016-08-06 17:03:08.466 folks. 2016-08-06 17:03:08.485 folks. 2016-08-06 17:03:11.468 I love the suggestion, the quick 2016-08-06 17:03:11.487 I love the suggestion, the quick 2016-08-06 17:03:12.513 go around the room. 2016-08-06 17:03:12.532 go around the room. 2016-08-06 17:03:15.513 Is that OK? 2016-08-06 17:03:15.531 Is that OK? 2016-08-06 17:03:20.565 David: 2016-08-06 17:03:20.566 I am cool with that. 2016-08-06 17:03:20.584 David: 2016-08-06 17:03:20.585 I am cool with that. 2016-08-06 17:03:26.563 >> Mr. -- esther 2016-08-06 17:03:26.564 grimm. 2016-08-06 17:03:26.582 >> Mr. -- esther 2016-08-06 17:03:26.583 grimm. 2016-08-06 17:03:31.564 >> gina, I am also with three 2016-08-06 17:03:31.582 >> gina, I am also with three 2016-08-06 17:03:32.563 arts. 2016-08-06 17:03:32.582 arts. 2016-08-06 17:03:36.597 Christine: make sure that you 2016-08-06 17:03:36.615 Christine: make sure that you 2016-08-06 17:03:39.593 hold the mic to your mouth. 2016-08-06 17:03:39.612 hold the mic to your mouth. 2016-08-06 17:03:40.593 Yay! 2016-08-06 17:03:40.612 Yay! 2016-08-06 17:03:44.641 >> Jocelyn, coming from the 2016-08-06 17:03:44.659 >> Jocelyn, coming from the 2016-08-06 17:03:46.634 performance side of theater, 2016-08-06 17:03:46.653 performance side of theater, 2016-08-06 17:03:50.634 acting and dancing. 2016-08-06 17:03:50.653 acting and dancing. 2016-08-06 17:03:51.634 I want to get more into perhaps 2016-08-06 17:03:51.652 I want to get more into perhaps 2016-08-06 17:03:54.634 the management side of arts, 2016-08-06 17:03:54.652 the management side of arts, 2016-08-06 17:03:57.634 working with people with his 2016-08-06 17:03:57.653 working with people with his 2016-08-06 17:03:59.634 abilities, so this was a perfect 2016-08-06 17:03:59.637 way to come and learn about 2016-08-06 17:03:59.663 abilities, so this was a perfect 2016-08-06 17:03:59.665 way to come and learn about 2016-08-06 17:04:00.633 those issues. 2016-08-06 17:04:00.651 those issues. 2016-08-06 17:04:02.633 It was very helpful today. 2016-08-06 17:04:02.651 It was very helpful today. 2016-08-06 17:04:04.633 >> where are you from? 2016-08-06 17:04:04.651 >> where are you from? 2016-08-06 17:04:06.633 >> Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:06.651 >> Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:11.641 >> Benjy 2016-08-06 17:04:11.66 >> Benjy 2016-08-06 17:04:16.634 blanco, at a nonprofit 2016-08-06 17:04:16.653 blanco, at a nonprofit 2016-08-06 17:04:18.633 that provides advocacy for those 2016-08-06 17:04:18.652 that provides advocacy for those 2016-08-06 17:04:20.634 with intellectual disabilities. 2016-08-06 17:04:20.653 with intellectual disabilities. 2016-08-06 17:04:23.633 I just moved back to Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:23.652 I just moved back to Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:25.633 I was gone for five years. 2016-08-06 17:04:25.652 I was gone for five years. 2016-08-06 17:04:27.683 Come talk to me. 2016-08-06 17:04:27.701 Come talk to me. 2016-08-06 17:04:32.725 Achieva 2016-08-06 17:04:32.743 Achieva 2016-08-06 17:04:33.724 has opened up positions 2016-08-06 17:04:33.726 and is a wonderful organization. 2016-08-06 17:04:33.744 has opened up positions 2016-08-06 17:04:33.745 and is a wonderful organization. 2016-08-06 17:04:36.725 >> I am in the Pittsburgh 2016-08-06 17:04:36.726 Symphony. 2016-08-06 17:04:36.743 >> I am in the Pittsburgh 2016-08-06 17:04:36.745 Symphony. 2016-08-06 17:04:41.724 >> I am vanya. 2016-08-06 17:04:41.743 >> I am vanya. 2016-08-06 17:04:46.725 I am a disabled performer here 2016-08-06 17:04:46.727 in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:46.744 I am a disabled performer here 2016-08-06 17:04:46.745 in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:52.764 >> Jackie Baker, Bricolage 2016-08-06 17:04:52.765 , 2016-08-06 17:04:52.766 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:52.783 >> Jackie Baker, Bricolage 2016-08-06 17:04:52.784 , 2016-08-06 17:04:52.785 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:56.766 >> David, performing artist in 2016-08-06 17:04:56.767 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:04:56.785 >> David, performing artist in 2016-08-06 17:04:56.787 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:03.814 >> Betty Siegal, director of the 2016-08-06 17:05:03.815 test accessibility at the John 2016-08-06 17:05:03.832 >> Betty Siegal, director of the 2016-08-06 17:05:03.834 test accessibility at the John 2016-08-06 17:05:05.812 F. Kennedy Center for performing 2016-08-06 17:05:05.831 F. Kennedy Center for performing 2016-08-06 17:05:06.816 arts in Washington DC. 2016-08-06 17:05:06.834 arts in Washington DC. 2016-08-06 17:05:09.814 >> Jessica Swanson, manager of 2016-08-06 17:05:09.833 >> Jessica Swanson, manager of 2016-08-06 17:05:11.814 disability. 2016-08-06 17:05:11.832 disability. 2016-08-06 17:05:14.814 >> Elizabeth, with the 2016-08-06 17:05:14.816 children's Museum of Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:14.851 >> Elizabeth, with the 2016-08-06 17:05:14.853 children's Museum of Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:20.854 >> I am Caitlin's gaffe -- 2016-08-06 17:05:20.876 >> I am Caitlin's gaffe -- 2016-08-06 17:05:23.845 scaff, here in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:23.864 scaff, here in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:29.845 >> director of arts 2016-08-06 17:05:29.846 and 2016-08-06 17:05:29.847 disability, Ireland. 2016-08-06 17:05:29.864 >> director of arts 2016-08-06 17:05:29.864 and 2016-08-06 17:05:29.866 disability, Ireland. 2016-08-06 17:05:34.845 >> Nicole, executive director of 2016-08-06 17:05:34.863 >> Nicole, executive director of 2016-08-06 17:05:36.843 the water center for the arts, 2016-08-06 17:05:36.862 the water center for the arts, 2016-08-06 17:05:37.844 10 miles up the river. 2016-08-06 17:05:37.862 10 miles up the river. 2016-08-06 17:05:43.853 >> Sarah 2016-08-06 17:05:43.854 from Raleigh, North 2016-08-06 17:05:43.855 Carolina. 2016-08-06 17:05:43.871 >> Sarah 2016-08-06 17:05:43.872 from Raleigh, North 2016-08-06 17:05:43.873 Carolina. 2016-08-06 17:05:45.845 I work for the city and I am the 2016-08-06 17:05:45.863 I work for the city and I am the 2016-08-06 17:05:47.844 arts coordinator. 2016-08-06 17:05:47.861 arts coordinator. 2016-08-06 17:05:52.892 >> Karina 2016-08-06 17:05:52.911 >> Karina 2016-08-06 17:05:53.894 web-based -- Karina, 2016-08-06 17:05:53.913 web-based -- Karina, 2016-08-06 17:05:55.933 based in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:55.952 based in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:05:58.973 The arts studio court Nader at 2016-08-06 17:05:58.991 The arts studio court Nader at 2016-08-06 17:06:00.973 the children's Museum -- studio 2016-08-06 17:06:00.992 the children's Museum -- studio 2016-08-06 17:06:01.974 coordinator at the children's 2016-08-06 17:06:01.992 coordinator at the children's 2016-08-06 17:06:03.977 Museum in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:06:03.995 Museum in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:06:10.973 >> Rebecca torres, 2016-08-06 17:06:10.974 artist and 2016-08-06 17:06:10.992 >> Rebecca torres, 2016-08-06 17:06:10.993 artist and 2016-08-06 17:06:12.972 founder and director of 2016-08-06 17:06:12.991 founder and director of 2016-08-06 17:06:13.971 backbones. 2016-08-06 17:06:13.99 backbones. 2016-08-06 17:06:19.018 >> 2016-08-06 17:06:19.037 >> 2016-08-06 17:06:21.015 Ryan Walsh, former 2016-08-06 17:06:21.034 Ryan Walsh, former 2016-08-06 17:06:22.014 development director and writing 2016-08-06 17:06:22.033 development director and writing 2016-08-06 17:06:25.015 program director at the Vermont 2016-08-06 17:06:25.016 studio Center. 2016-08-06 17:06:25.033 program director at the Vermont 2016-08-06 17:06:25.034 studio Center. 2016-08-06 17:06:27.014 I moved to Pittsburgh this week. 2016-08-06 17:06:27.033 I moved to Pittsburgh this week. 2016-08-06 17:06:33.062 >> just a 2016-08-06 17:06:33.063 personal assistant. 2016-08-06 17:06:33.083 >> just a 2016-08-06 17:06:33.086 personal assistant. 2016-08-06 17:06:35.062 >> just? 2016-08-06 17:06:35.081 >> just? 2016-08-06 17:06:38.063 >> what is your name? 2016-08-06 17:06:38.081 >> what is your name? 2016-08-06 17:06:39.064 [INAUDIBLE] 2016-08-06 17:06:39.082 [INAUDIBLE] 2016-08-06 17:06:44.072 >> Christina 2016-08-06 17:06:44.073 , I work for the 2016-08-06 17:06:44.09 >> Christina 2016-08-06 17:06:44.091 , I work for the 2016-08-06 17:06:45.078 ballet theater, the director of 2016-08-06 17:06:45.096 ballet theater, the director of 2016-08-06 17:06:48.103 education and can unity -- and 2016-08-06 17:06:48.105 community engagement. 2016-08-06 17:06:48.122 education and can unity -- and 2016-08-06 17:06:48.123 community engagement. 2016-08-06 17:06:54.102 >> Vanessa, I 2016-08-06 17:06:54.103 direct all of the 2016-08-06 17:06:54.12 >> Vanessa, I 2016-08-06 17:06:54.121 direct all of the 2016-08-06 17:06:56.103 accessibility programs here at 2016-08-06 17:06:56.122 accessibility programs here at 2016-08-06 17:06:58.103 the Pittsburgh cultural trust. 2016-08-06 17:06:58.121 the Pittsburgh cultural trust. 2016-08-06 17:07:03.113 >> the 2016-08-06 17:07:03.114 accessibility and 2016-08-06 17:07:03.132 >> the 2016-08-06 17:07:03.133 accessibility and 2016-08-06 17:07:06.154 inclusion coordinator at the 2016-08-06 17:07:06.156 children's Museum. 2016-08-06 17:07:06.172 inclusion coordinator at the 2016-08-06 17:07:06.174 children's Museum. 2016-08-06 17:07:10.142 >> Brian Weatherford, 2016-08-06 17:07:10.161 >> Brian Weatherford, 2016-08-06 17:07:13.143 accessibility peer in 2016-08-06 17:07:13.145 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:07:13.162 accessibility peer in 2016-08-06 17:07:13.163 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:07:20.142 >> 2016-08-06 17:07:20.161 >> 2016-08-06 17:07:24.143 my name is Kayla, I 2016-08-06 17:07:24.144 work for 2016-08-06 17:07:24.162 my name is Kayla, I 2016-08-06 17:07:24.163 work for 2016-08-06 17:07:28.184 a dog and pony in D.C.. 2016-08-06 17:07:28.202 a dog and pony in D.C.. 2016-08-06 17:07:31.185 I am an apprentice. 2016-08-06 17:07:31.204 I am an apprentice. 2016-08-06 17:07:36.182 >> Daniel Ellison, from North 2016-08-06 17:07:36.201 >> Daniel Ellison, from North 2016-08-06 17:07:39.184 Carolina, and I teach at Duke 2016-08-06 17:07:39.203 Carolina, and I teach at Duke 2016-08-06 17:07:40.182 university on legal issues for 2016-08-06 17:07:40.201 university on legal issues for 2016-08-06 17:07:42.183 the performing arts. 2016-08-06 17:07:42.201 the performing arts. 2016-08-06 17:07:43.184 I am chair of the Durham 2016-08-06 17:07:43.202 I am chair of the Durham 2016-08-06 17:07:45.184 cultural advisory board. 2016-08-06 17:07:45.202 cultural advisory board. 2016-08-06 17:07:50.182 >> Kristin link, the director of 2016-08-06 17:07:50.2 >> Kristin link, the director of 2016-08-06 17:07:51.185 education and accessibility for 2016-08-06 17:07:51.203 education and accessibility for 2016-08-06 17:07:53.183 city theater company in 2016-08-06 17:07:53.19 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:07:53.202 city theater company in 2016-08-06 17:07:53.203 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:07:58.183 >> Claire, the director of new 2016-08-06 17:07:58.201 >> Claire, the director of new 2016-08-06 17:08:00.186 play development, also from city 2016-08-06 17:08:00.204 play development, also from city 2016-08-06 17:08:01.185 theater in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:08:01.204 theater in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:08:05.188 >> Reagan, actor, writer, 2016-08-06 17:08:05.206 >> Reagan, actor, writer, 2016-08-06 17:08:09.231 performer, based in Montana, but 2016-08-06 17:08:09.249 performer, based in Montana, but 2016-08-06 17:08:10.222 all over the place. 2016-08-06 17:08:10.241 all over the place. 2016-08-06 17:08:14.223 >> I am Erica, the associate 2016-08-06 17:08:14.242 >> I am Erica, the associate 2016-08-06 17:08:17.223 artistic director at 2016-08-06 17:08:17.242 artistic director at 2016-08-06 17:08:20.222 off-the-wall productions in 2016-08-06 17:08:20.241 off-the-wall productions in 2016-08-06 17:08:21.224 Carnegie, about seven miles from 2016-08-06 17:08:21.225 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:08:21.242 Carnegie, about seven miles from 2016-08-06 17:08:21.243 Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:08:26.224 >> Sarah, the managing director 2016-08-06 17:08:26.243 >> Sarah, the managing director 2016-08-06 17:08:29.223 at off-the-wall with Erica, in 2016-08-06 17:08:29.225 Carnegie. 2016-08-06 17:08:29.242 at off-the-wall with Erica, in 2016-08-06 17:08:29.243 Carnegie. 2016-08-06 17:08:34.231 >> there have 2016-08-06 17:08:34.232 been quite a few 2016-08-06 17:08:34.25 >> there have 2016-08-06 17:08:34.251 been quite a few 2016-08-06 17:08:37.313 people that left that are not 2016-08-06 17:08:37.315 from Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:08:37.332 people that left that are not 2016-08-06 17:08:37.333 from Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:08:40.314 But there have been many that 2016-08-06 17:08:40.333 But there have been many that 2016-08-06 17:08:44.425 have left, to catch flights and 2016-08-06 17:08:44.427 things like that. 2016-08-06 17:08:44.444 have left, to catch flights and 2016-08-06 17:08:44.445 things like that. 2016-08-06 17:08:48.325 We started the day with 25 2016-08-06 17:08:48.343 We started the day with 25 2016-08-06 17:08:50.364 people registered and as of 2016-08-06 17:08:50.382 people registered and as of 2016-08-06 17:08:52.363 yesterday it was 60, so that 2016-08-06 17:08:52.381 yesterday it was 60, so that 2016-08-06 17:08:56.363 shows that there is a critical 2016-08-06 17:08:56.381 shows that there is a critical 2016-08-06 17:08:57.363 mass of interest. 2016-08-06 17:08:57.382 mass of interest. 2016-08-06 17:09:01.373 David: my thought was the idea 2016-08-06 17:09:01.392 David: my thought was the idea 2016-08-06 17:09:02.374 of the pendulum and I really 2016-08-06 17:09:02.4 of the pendulum and I really 2016-08-06 17:09:06.374 feel like there is a pendulum 2016-08-06 17:09:06.392 feel like there is a pendulum 2016-08-06 17:09:09.396 shift in terms of authenticity 2016-08-06 17:09:09.414 shift in terms of authenticity 2016-08-06 17:09:11.391 when it comes to disability, 2016-08-06 17:09:11.409 when it comes to disability, 2016-08-06 17:09:13.393 specifically in casting. 2016-08-06 17:09:13.411 specifically in casting. 2016-08-06 17:09:16.434 And I think also in terms of 2016-08-06 17:09:16.453 And I think also in terms of 2016-08-06 17:09:19.434 other inclusive ways that we are 2016-08-06 17:09:19.453 other inclusive ways that we are 2016-08-06 17:09:21.473 engaging artists. 2016-08-06 17:09:21.491 engaging artists. 2016-08-06 17:09:22.484 So I hope the conversation 2016-08-06 17:09:22.504 So I hope the conversation 2016-08-06 17:09:27.523 continues to move forward and 2016-08-06 17:09:27.523 I 2016-08-06 17:09:27.543 continues to move forward and 2016-08-06 17:09:27.544 I 2016-08-06 17:09:31.527 guess as you were saying, it has 2016-08-06 17:09:31.547 guess as you were saying, it has 2016-08-06 17:09:35.523 shifted, even if it pushes back 2016-08-06 17:09:35.543 shifted, even if it pushes back 2016-08-06 17:09:36.523 in another direction, we have 2016-08-06 17:09:36.541 in another direction, we have 2016-08-06 17:09:38.523 gone far enough that we will 2016-08-06 17:09:38.542 gone far enough that we will 2016-08-06 17:09:40.521 continue to move forward. 2016-08-06 17:09:40.54 continue to move forward. 2016-08-06 17:09:44.574 >> I am going to introduce 2016-08-06 17:09:44.575 myself. 2016-08-06 17:09:44.593 >> I am going to introduce 2016-08-06 17:09:44.594 myself. 2016-08-06 17:09:48.572 I missed the round. 2016-08-06 17:09:48.591 I missed the round. 2016-08-06 17:09:50.574 Sarah Aziz, the director of the 2016-08-06 17:09:50.592 Sarah Aziz, the director of the 2016-08-06 17:09:53.574 three arts -- the three Rivers 2016-08-06 17:09:53.592 three arts -- the three Rivers 2016-08-06 17:09:56.567 arts Festival in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:09:56.586 arts Festival in Pittsburgh. 2016-08-06 17:09:59.573 Also the coffee girl. 2016-08-06 17:09:59.592 Also the coffee girl. 2016-08-06 17:10:04.624 >> copy Savior -- 2016-08-06 17:10:04.642 >> copy Savior -- 2016-08-06 17:10:06.642 coffee savior. 2016-08-06 17:10:06.661 coffee savior. 2016-08-06 17:10:10.643 >> we have five minutes for 2016-08-06 17:10:10.662 >> we have five minutes for 2016-08-06 17:10:11.644 questions or thoughts. 2016-08-06 17:10:11.662 questions or thoughts. 2016-08-06 17:10:16.642 If anybody has a question and 2016-08-06 17:10:16.66 If anybody has a question and 2016-08-06 17:10:17.643 your brain is not much, I am 2016-08-06 17:10:17.662 your brain is not much, I am 2016-08-06 17:10:23.644 impressed -- m 2016-08-06 17:10:23.645 ush, I am 2016-08-06 17:10:23.662 impressed -- m 2016-08-06 17:10:23.663 ush, I am 2016-08-06 17:10:24.643 impressed. 2016-08-06 17:10:24.662 impressed. 2016-08-06 17:10:26.653 What do you guys think? 2016-08-06 17:10:26.671 What do you guys think? 2016-08-06 17:10:30.735 Christine: thank you for staying 2016-08-06 17:10:30.736 all day. 2016-08-06 17:10:30.753 Christine: thank you for staying 2016-08-06 17:10:30.755 all day. 2016-08-06 17:10:34.737 Just to reiterate, let's use 2016-08-06 17:10:34.755 Just to reiterate, let's use 2016-08-06 17:10:36.735 each other as resources, 2016-08-06 17:10:36.736 honestly. 2016-08-06 17:10:36.753 each other as resources, 2016-08-06 17:10:36.754 honestly. 2016-08-06 17:10:39.737 David and I are here, we do not 2016-08-06 17:10:39.756 David and I are here, we do not 2016-08-06 17:10:43.733 give you our e-mails or website, 2016-08-06 17:10:43.752 give you our e-mails or website, 2016-08-06 17:10:47.728 but it is on -- 2016-08-06 17:10:47.747 but it is on -- 2016-08-06 17:10:49.737 >> we will get everything to 2016-08-06 17:10:49.738 everyone. 2016-08-06 17:10:49.755 >> we will get everything to 2016-08-06 17:10:49.757 everyone. 2016-08-06 17:10:51.774 Christine: yes. 2016-08-06 17:10:51.793 Christine: yes. 2016-08-06 17:10:53.775 The whole point of today was to 2016-08-06 17:10:53.793 The whole point of today was to 2016-08-06 17:10:55.773 hear some of the best practices 2016-08-06 17:10:55.793 hear some of the best practices 2016-08-06 17:10:58.772 models and what is going on. 2016-08-06 17:10:58.79 models and what is going on. 2016-08-06 17:11:03.775 I think I speak for everybody 2016-08-06 17:11:03.777 that came and spoke today about 2016-08-06 17:11:03.794 I think I speak for everybody 2016-08-06 17:11:03.795 that came and spoke today about 2016-08-06 17:11:04.773 their experiences, that they 2016-08-06 17:11:04.791 their experiences, that they 2016-08-06 17:11:07.774 would probably welcome those 2016-08-06 17:11:07.792 would probably welcome those 2016-08-06 17:11:08.773 people who have questions, 2016-08-06 17:11:08.792 people who have questions, 2016-08-06 17:11:12.775 saying we are interested in what 2016-08-06 17:11:12.793 saying we are interested in what 2016-08-06 17:11:14.818 you are doing at Bricolage, can 2016-08-06 17:11:14.837 you are doing at Bricolage, can 2016-08-06 17:11:16.822 you walk us through the process? 2016-08-06 17:11:16.841 you walk us through the process? 2016-08-06 17:11:22.822 That is the one-to-one 2016-08-06 17:11:22.823 of what 2016-08-06 17:11:22.841 That is the one-to-one 2016-08-06 17:11:22.842 of what 2016-08-06 17:11:25.825 will make the change. 2016-08-06 17:11:25.844 will make the change. 2016-08-06 17:11:27.873 Even if you are a big 2016-08-06 17:11:27.892 Even if you are a big 2016-08-06 17:11:29.873 organization, if you are a large 2016-08-06 17:11:29.891 organization, if you are a large 2016-08-06 17:11:31.872 organization and your job title 2016-08-06 17:11:31.89 organization and your job title 2016-08-06 17:11:32.872 does not fit into necessarily 2016-08-06 17:11:32.89 does not fit into necessarily 2016-08-06 17:11:34.873 what we have been talking about, 2016-08-06 17:11:34.892 what we have been talking about, 2016-08-06 17:11:36.873 there are some things you can do 2016-08-06 17:11:36.892 there are some things you can do 2016-08-06 17:11:38.873 to help the conversation at your 2016-08-06 17:11:38.892 to help the conversation at your 2016-08-06 17:11:40.872 cost -- at your institution. 2016-08-06 17:11:40.891 cost -- at your institution. 2016-08-06 17:11:45.901 >> I 2016-08-06 17:11:45.92 >> I 2016-08-06 17:11:47.903 just, from a perspective as 2016-08-06 17:11:47.921 just, from a perspective as 2016-08-06 17:11:50.903 an artist, I want to say thank 2016-08-06 17:11:50.921 an artist, I want to say thank 2016-08-06 17:11:53.897 you Pittsburgh coming thank you 2016-08-06 17:11:53.916 you Pittsburgh coming thank you 2016-08-06 17:11:55.903 -- Pittsburgh, thank you lead. 2016-08-06 17:11:55.922 -- Pittsburgh, thank you lead. 2016-08-06 17:12:00.941 I feel like, really there 2016-08-06 17:12:00.941 is no 2016-08-06 17:12:00.943 national or international 2016-08-06 17:12:00.96 I feel like, really there 2016-08-06 17:12:00.96 is no 2016-08-06 17:12:00.962 national or international 2016-08-06 17:12:03.944 convening of this sort, 2016-08-06 17:12:03.963 convening of this sort, 2016-08-06 17:12:05.945 particularly for artists with 2016-08-06 17:12:05.964 particularly for artists with 2016-08-06 17:12:07.943 disabilities to have these 2016-08-06 17:12:07.962 disabilities to have these 2016-08-06 17:12:08.943 conversations and collaborate. 2016-08-06 17:12:08.961 conversations and collaborate. 2016-08-06 17:12:18.942 And it is 2016-08-06 17:12:18.96 And it is 2016-08-06 17:12:19.945 -- 2016-08-06 17:12:19.963 -- 2016-08-06 17:12:51.319 >> Without them 2016-08-06 17:12:51.338 >> Without them 2016-08-06 17:12:52.334 and their 2016-08-06 17:12:52.336 knowledge and expertise, this is 2016-08-06 17:12:52.337 what they do. 2016-08-06 17:12:52.352 and their 2016-08-06 17:12:52.354 knowledge and expertise, this is 2016-08-06 17:12:52.355 what they do. 2016-08-06 17:12:54.322 Do not forget about them. 2016-08-06 17:12:54.341 Do not forget about them. 2016-08-06 17:12:57.323 Call them, talk to them. 2016-08-06 17:12:57.341 Call them, talk to them. 2016-08-06 17:13:00.322 The alliance for inclusion in 2016-08-06 17:13:00.34 The alliance for inclusion in 2016-08-06 17:13:01.366 the arts is exactly that. 2016-08-06 17:13:01.385 the arts is exactly that. 2016-08-06 17:13:03.373 You need to take advantage of 2016-08-06 17:13:03.392 You need to take advantage of 2016-08-06 17:13:06.377 this expertise and talent. 2016-08-06 17:13:06.396 this expertise and talent. 2016-08-06 17:13:13.373 And frankly, you guys scare 2016-08-06 17:13:13.374 me 2016-08-06 17:13:13.375 you are so good. 2016-08-06 17:13:13.391 And frankly, you guys scare 2016-08-06 17:13:13.392 me 2016-08-06 17:13:13.393 you are so good. 2016-08-06 17:13:16.372 Christine: you guys. 2016-08-06 17:13:16.39 Christine: you guys. 2016-08-06 17:13:18.407 Do not give us all of the 2016-08-06 17:13:18.408 credit. 2016-08-06 17:13:18.425 Do not give us all of the 2016-08-06 17:13:18.427 credit. 2016-08-06 17:13:20.421 David: absolutely. 2016-08-06 17:13:20.44 David: absolutely. 2016-08-06 17:13:22.405 It was coming from you guys and 2016-08-06 17:13:22.423 It was coming from you guys and 2016-08-06 17:13:24.405 wanting to collaborate and 2016-08-06 17:13:24.423 wanting to collaborate and 2016-08-06 17:13:26.403 really bring the conversation 2016-08-06 17:13:26.404 forward. 2016-08-06 17:13:26.422 really bring the conversation 2016-08-06 17:13:26.423 forward. 2016-08-06 17:13:28.403 So thank you to the Pittsburgh 2016-08-06 17:13:28.421 So thank you to the Pittsburgh 2016-08-06 17:13:31.402 culture trust and also the 2016-08-06 17:13:31.421 culture trust and also the 2016-08-06 17:13:34.411 leadership at lead. 2016-08-06 17:13:34.43 leadership at lead. 2016-08-06 17:13:38.496 >> and I wanted to bring Vanessa 2016-08-06 17:13:38.515 >> and I wanted to bring Vanessa 2016-08-06 17:13:42.495 Back up, it was really anne and 2016-08-06 17:13:42.514 Back up, it was really anne and 2016-08-06 17:13:43.482 the NASA having meetings for 2016-08-06 17:13:43.5 the NASA having meetings for 2016-08-06 17:13:48.484 many months -- and Vanessa 2016-08-06 17:13:48.503 many months -- and Vanessa 2016-08-06 17:13:50.484 having meetings for many months. 2016-08-06 17:13:50.502 having meetings for many months. 2016-08-06 17:13:51.484 It was really the two of them. 2016-08-06 17:13:51.502 It was really the two of them. 2016-08-06 17:13:53.482 I am so proud. 2016-08-06 17:13:53.5 I am so proud. 2016-08-06 17:13:54.483 Thank you so much. 2016-08-06 17:13:54.501 Thank you so much. 2016-08-06 17:13:55.483 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 17:13:55.501 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 17:13:59.482 Tiffany: I want to acknowledge 2016-08-06 17:13:59.501 Tiffany: I want to acknowledge 2016-08-06 17:14:02.482 the Pittsburgh cultural trust, 2016-08-06 17:14:02.484 the Kennedy Center, all of the 2016-08-06 17:14:02.501 the Pittsburgh cultural trust, 2016-08-06 17:14:02.503 the Kennedy Center, all of the 2016-08-06 17:14:07.492 partners that made this possible 2016-08-06 17:14:07.494 , NDA, really important 2016-08-06 17:14:07.495 conversation. 2016-08-06 17:14:07.511 partners that made this possible 2016-08-06 17:14:07.512 , NDA, really important 2016-08-06 17:14:07.513 conversation. 2016-08-06 17:14:11.485 And most of poorly, all of you. 2016-08-06 17:14:11.503 And most of poorly, all of you. 2016-08-06 17:14:14.482 Everybody that participates in 2016-08-06 17:14:14.484 these conversations, that is 2016-08-06 17:14:14.501 Everybody that participates in 2016-08-06 17:14:14.502 these conversations, that is 2016-08-06 17:14:16.484 what is all about. 2016-08-06 17:14:16.485 Thank you for coming. 2016-08-06 17:14:16.502 what is all about. 2016-08-06 17:14:16.503 Thank you for coming. 2016-08-06 17:14:18.482 I think that is it. 2016-08-06 17:14:18.5 I think that is it. 2016-08-06 17:14:20.482 Are we good? 2016-08-06 17:14:20.5 Are we good? 2016-08-06 17:14:22.496 David: I think we are done. 2016-08-06 17:14:22.514 David: I think we are done. 2016-08-06 17:14:25.533 Tiffany: have a great evening 2016-08-06 17:14:25.535 everyone. 2016-08-06 17:14:25.552 Tiffany: have a great evening 2016-08-06 17:14:25.553 everyone. 2016-08-06 17:14:27.531 [APPLAUSE] 2016-08-06 17:14:27.549 [APPLAUSE]