2017-03-10 11:51:52.971	. 

2017-03-10 11:51:53.974	. 

2017-03-10 11:51:53.976	. 

2017-03-10 11:51:53.978	Please stand by. 

2017-03-10 11:52:00.973	PLEASE STAND BY. 

2017-03-10 11:52:02.976	PLEASE STAND BY. 

2017-03-10 11:52:04.981	PLEASE STAND BY. 

2017-03-10 11:53:14.364	Please stand by. 

2017-03-10 11:53:16.361	Please stand by. 

2017-03-10 11:59:17.731	Please stand by. 

2017-03-10 12:00:20.943	Please stand by. 

2017-03-10 12:00:22.984	Please stand by. 

2017-03-10 12:07:02.326	Test 

2017-03-10 12:07:04.326	Plesease stand by 

2017-03-10 12:07:07.367	Plesease stand by 

2017-03-10 12:21:07.678	>> Everybody, it is so great to 

2017-03-10 12:21:12.674	you and Kathy Edwards and I am 

2017-03-10 12:21:16.685	the director of the New England 

2017-03-10 12:21:16.687	foundation for the arts. 

2017-03-10 12:21:18.683	For those of you getting 

2017-03-10 12:21:30.723	confused, that's the short 

2017-03-10 12:21:33.722	version for us here in New 

2017-03-10 12:21:35.73	England. 

2017-03-10 12:21:35.731	With a year is a great team, and 

2017-03-10 12:21:42.772	putting Jane Preston. 

2017-03-10 12:21:43.771	Our partners in hosting this 

2017-03-10 12:21:46.773	convening are the incredibly 

2017-03-10 12:21:49.771	brilliant folks at HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 12:21:52.771	It is my pleasure to turn things 

2017-03-10 12:21:56.804	over to David on behalf of team 

2017-03-10 12:21:59.803	HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 12:22:01.802	David: I love the applause. 

2017-03-10 12:22:09.802	I will hand it to someone else 

2017-03-10 12:22:09.804	and we will them. 

2017-03-10 12:22:10.805	That's going to be a convention. 

2017-03-10 12:22:13.81	Good morning. 

2017-03-10 12:22:14.803	I'm going to read the land

2017-03-10 12:22:22.801	knowledge of this morning before 

2017-03-10 12:22:24.802	we begin. 

2017-03-10 12:22:24.804	I would like to knowledge the 

2017-03-10 12:22:25.802	traditional owners of the land 

2017-03-10 12:22:26.802	on which this is taking place. 

2017-03-10 12:22:28.804	The Massachusetts people, and 

2017-03-10 12:22:34.803	pay my respect to their elders, 

2017-03-10 12:22:36.804	past and present. 

2017-03-10 12:22:38.804	>> Thank you, David. 

2017-03-10 12:22:42.835	A few words about the new a 

2017-03-10 12:22:46.847	foundation for the arts, NEF

2017-03-10 12:22:46.847	A 

2017-03-10 12:22:57.852	grants funds to artists and arts 

2017-03-10 12:22:57.854	organizations to make work and 

2017-03-10 12:23:01.846	bring network to communities 

2017-03-10 12:23:02.846	here in New England and around 

2017-03-10 12:23:02.848	the United States. 

2017-03-10 12:23:05.843	We connect our constituents to 

2017-03-10 12:23:11.971	knowledge, learning, networks, 

2017-03-10 12:23:12.973	and relationships that allow 

2017-03-10 12:23:14.972	them to do their work better. 

2017-03-10 12:23:17.972	We conduct research into the 

2017-03-10 12:23:17.974	creative sector added. 

2017-03-10 12:23:22.024	We do that in partnership with 

2017-03-10 12:23:25.027	the national endowment for the 

2017-03-10 12:23:25.029	arts and with the six state are 

2017-03-10 12:23:30.022	agencies in New England and also 

2017-03-10 12:23:30.024	with private foundations and 

2017-03-10 12:23:32.02	individual donors. 

2017-03-10 12:23:34.018	As part of our grantmaking 

2017-03-10 12:23:38.018	portfolio over the past five

2017-03-10 12:23:39.02	years, NEFA has made a series of 

2017-03-10 12:23:44.09	grants to a group of artists who 

2017-03-10 12:23:47.053	made work that told powerful and 

2017-03-10 12:23:52.124	moving, even brilliant stories 

2017-03-10 12:23:52.126	about the military experience. 

2017-03-10 12:23:55.095	They develop these stories and 

2017-03-10 12:24:01.142	interesting, genuine 

2017-03-10 12:24:01.143	collaboration with members of 

2017-03-10 12:24:05.144	the military communities that 

2017-03-10 12:24:05.145	they chose to focus on. 

2017-03-10 12:24:06.138	We wanted to gather them and 

2017-03-10 12:24:11.209	their peers because there are a 

2017-03-10 12:24:11.211	number of really an artist 

2017-03-10 12:24:12.137	working in this space and their 

2017-03-10 12:24:15.14	partners for military 

2017-03-10 12:24:17.142	communities, health care 

2017-03-10 12:24:19.138	community

2017-03-10 12:24:19.138	 I'm so thrilled to be 

2017-03-10 12:24:30.223	here with those artists, with 

2017-03-10 12:24:31.224	other artists, with other 

2017-03-10 12:24:35.282	experts, folks with informed 

2017-03-10 12:24:36.271	perspectives, and all of you. 

2017-03-10 12:24:38.272	Now I'm going to turn things

2017-03-10 12:24:44.271	over to the kernel -- PCarl. 

2017-03-10 12:24:48.275	>> I'm the director at Hell 

2017-03-10 12:24:52.323	round. 

2017-03-10 12:24:52.324	If you are held around staff, 

2017-03-10 12:24:54.324	you might raise your hand. 

2017-03-10 12:24:55.323	It's an incredible staff people. 

2017-03-10 12:25:01.323	I'm going to say a couple words 

2017-03-10 12:25:08.35	about how around. 

2017-03-10 12:25:09.348	How around is an online resource 

2017-03-10 12:25:14.347	primarily. 

2017-03-10 12:25:14.348	We connect people through

2017-03-10 12:25:18.348	nuanced, controversial dialogue 

2017-03-10 12:25:19.353	conversation around the globe, 

2017-03-10 12:25:22.389	and sometimes it bring people 

2017-03-10 12:25:26.393	together in a convening setting 

2017-03-10 12:25:27.408	like we do here to talk about 

2017-03-10 12:25:27.41	interesting and provocative 

2017-03-10 12:25:28.39	charges in the theater field. 

2017-03-10 12:25:32.431	We partnered with NEFA on this 

2017-03-10 12:25:35.473	event. 

2017-03-10 12:25:39.477	In case you are not 100% clear 

2017-03-10 12:25:40.474	where you are, you are at 

2017-03-10 12:25:43.01	Emerson College in Boston. 

2017-03-10 12:25:47.477	It's a downtown vertical campus, 

2017-03-10 12:25:50.481	downtown off the Boston Common 

2017-03-10 12:25:50.483	here. 

2017-03-10 12:25:53.472	Emerson College has a thing 

2017-03-10 12:25:54.472	called the office of the arts. 

2017-03-10 12:25:55.469	The office of the arts manages 

2017-03-10 12:25:59.479	all these beautiful theater 

2017-03-10 12:26:03.473	spaces, some of which you will 

2017-03-10 12:26:03.474	see this weekend. 

2017-03-10 12:26:04.474	Next off, back to Kathy. 

2017-03-10 12:26:08.477	>> This is the last few will 

2017-03-10 12:26:13.474	hear from me. 

2017-03-10 12:26:13.476	Before I turn things over to 

2017-03-10 12:26:16.574	others, we thought it would he a 

2017-03-10 12:26:17.601	good idea to share some of our 

2017-03-10 12:26:21.813	top desired outcomes for this 

2017-03-10 12:26:21.815	time together in the next few 

2017-03-10 12:26:23.642	days. 

2017-03-10 12:26:23.644	We hope to leave a sense of 

2017-03-10 12:26:26.642	community amongst ourselves as a 

2017-03-10 12:26:28.641	cohort with a shared 

2017-03-10 12:26:33.643	understanding of why 

2017-03-10 12:26:33.644	participants come to this work

2017-03-10 12:26:36.643	and of how to build trust 

2017-03-10 12:26:36.644	between artists, arts 

2017-03-10 12:26:40.684	presenters, health care 

2017-03-10 12:26:40.686	providers, and military 

2017-03-10 12:26:43.729	communities who don't often 

2017-03-10 12:26:43.731	partnered together, and we hope 

2017-03-10 12:26:47.726	to develop clarity on best 

2017-03-10 12:26:47.728	practices for practitioners 

2017-03-10 12:26:50.726	working in this field so those 

2017-03-10 12:26:53.726	practices can be shared more 

2017-03-10 12:26:55.736	widely after this convening and 

2017-03-10 12:26:57.732	so they can inform future 

2017-03-10 12:26:58.727	investments in this work. 

2017-03-10 12:27:00.725	I would say underlying the whole 

2017-03-10 12:27:03.776	thing, we really had three key 

2017-03-10 12:27:07.774	questions. 

2017-03-10 12:27:09.823	I will give a shout out to 

2017-03-10 12:27:10.835	Jeremy, who informed these. 

2017-03-10 12:27:15.826	What makes this work important, 

2017-03-10 12:27:18.823	what makes this work successful, 

2017-03-10 12:27:23.892	and what can make this work even 

2017-03-10 12:27:23.893	better. 

2017-03-10 12:27:24.822	Thank you. 

2017-03-10 12:27:26.852	>> I want to talk about the warm 

2017-03-10 12:27:35.899	that a lot of these 

2017-03-10 12:27:35.901	conversations have been taking. 

2017-03-10 12:27:37.892	[NO AUDIO] 

2017-03-10 12:48:21.597	>> Just share your name with 

2017-03-10 12:48:26.588	each other. 

2017-03-10 12:48:26.589	Some affiliation will imply by 

2017-03-10 12:48:31.588	where you wind up. 

2017-03-10 12:48:32.587	We will use different parts of 

2017-03-10 12:48:32.588	the room. 

2017-03-10 12:48:36.587	He will be walking from one 

2017-03-10 12:48:36.588	place to another depending on 

2017-03-10 12:48:37.589	what part of the map you are 

2017-03-10 12:48:37.59	encouraged ready for the 

2017-03-10 12:48:39.631	walking? 

2017-03-10 12:48:39.632	This is a personal relationship 

2017-03-10 12:48:44.7	to the military, the first 

2017-03-10 12:48:46.682	question. 

2017-03-10 12:48:46.683	I can't see you on the paper

2017-03-10 12:48:49.681	with my glasses on, so I will do 

2017-03-10 12:48:49.683	this. 

2017-03-10 12:48:50.683	I'm counting on you. 

2017-03-10 12:48:53.68	I shouldn't have said anything. 

2017-03-10 12:48:57.694	We are going to go to four 

2017-03-10 12:49:03.712	different groups. 

2017-03-10 12:49:06.75	If there is no group for you, we 

2017-03-10 12:49:07.754	will stand here in the center. 

2017-03-10 12:49:11.751	If you are current active 

2017-03-10 12:49:12.751	military, why don't you come 

2017-03-10 12:49:12.753	stand here? 

2017-03-10 12:49:13.751	If you are a veteran not 

2017-03-10 12:49:18.752	currently active, stand here. 

2017-03-10 12:49:18.753	If you have an immediate family 

2017-03-10 12:49:24.754	member in the military, to their 

2017-03-10 12:49:26.752	behind that old seats. 

2017-03-10 12:49:26.754	If you have no direct personal 

2017-03-10 12:49:31.822	relationship to the military 

2017-03-10 12:49:31.823	probably, stand in that corner 

2017-03-10 12:49:34.797	behind his chair's. 

2017-03-10 12:49:34.798	In a time it takes to get there, 

2017-03-10 12:49:37.797	give each other your worst -- 

2017-03-10 12:49:39.794	first names. 

2017-03-10 12:49:40.794	This is currently active, right? 

2017-03-10 12:49:57.94	Yes. 

2017-03-10 12:49:59.931	You can call that a direct 

2017-03-10 12:50:06.933	personal relationship. 

2017-03-10 12:50:06.934	Immediate family member in the 

2017-03-10 12:50:10.961	military. 

2017-03-10 12:50:10.963	There is active duty. 

2017-03-10 12:50:11.969	Yes, so current active duty. 

2017-03-10 12:50:15.053	Veteran. 

2017-03-10 12:50:16.045	Immediate family member in the 

2017-03-10 12:50:19.06	military. 

2017-03-10 12:50:20.049	Well, like Bill's father is 

2017-03-10 12:50:27.043	deceased so he is going to that 

2017-03-10 12:50:28.054	place but he's not current. 

2017-03-10 12:50:29.043	Or no direct current 

2017-03-10 12:50:31.047	relationship with the military. 

2017-03-10 12:50:33.047	[INAUDIBLE] 

2017-03-10 12:50:38.048	Personal relationship, not 

2017-03-10 12:50:43.134	professional. 

2017-03-10 12:50:44.131	Any relatives? 

2017-03-10 12:50:46.22	You yourself. 

2017-03-10 12:50:47.179	[INAUDIBLE] 

2017-03-10 12:50:54.182	I'm asking for personal, not 

2017-03-10 12:51:03.213	professional. 

2017-03-10 12:51:04.213	Thank you. 

2017-03-10 12:51:09.213	So, I'm going to do a little bit 

2017-03-10 12:51:12.213	of noting this map. 

2017-03-10 12:51:14.213	We have 2 active duty. 

2017-03-10 12:51:18.214	I'm surprised by that. 

2017-03-10 12:51:21.214	Thank you for your service. 

2017-03-10 12:51:22.22	I thought there might be more. 

2017-03-10 12:51:24.216	This is veterans. 

2017-03-10 12:51:27.253	Thank you for your service. 

2017-03-10 12:51:29.256	We had a lot of confusion about

2017-03-10 12:51:38.256	-- for this group over here, 

2017-03-10 12:51:41.257	which was immediate family 

2017-03-10 12:51:41.258	matter in the military -- member 

2017-03-10 12:51:48.299	in the military. 

2017-03-10 12:51:48.301	No direct personal relationship 

2017-03-10 12:51:50.299	to the military. 

2017-03-10 12:51:50.3	At this moment, today. 

2017-03-10 12:51:52.339	Immediate family. 

2017-03-10 12:52:00.341	So, spouse, children, parents. 

2017-03-10 12:52:05.339	Let's do that. 

2017-03-10 12:52:07.34	Spouse, children, parent, 

2017-03-10 12:52:12.409	sibling. 

2017-03-10 12:52:12.411	Whoa, the group changed. 

2017-03-10 12:52:14.382	Currently. 

2017-03-10 12:52:19.382	One of the other questions that 

2017-03-10 12:52:22.383	came up, I should've 

2017-03-10 12:52:26.383	highlighted. 

2017-03-10 12:52:26.385	It's personal, not professional. 

2017-03-10 12:52:27.384	Many of you have a per is no

2017-03-10 12:52:31.434	desk professional relationship 

2017-03-10 12:52:32.433	to the military. 

2017-03-10 12:52:32.433	But what is your personal 

2017-03-10 12:52:33.512	relationship? 

2017-03-10 12:52:34.432	Parents, siblings, children. 

2017-03-10 12:52:39.432	Currently, today. 

2017-03-10 12:52:41.431	Right now. 

2017-03-10 12:52:42.44	The main thing is for you to 

2017-03-10 12:52:55.479	meet people you do not know when 

2017-03-10 12:52:55.481	you came in. 

2017-03-10 12:52:56.51	Quite all your questions, turn 

2017-03-10 12:53:00.549	them to each other, and say

2017-03-10 12:53:01.548	hello. 

2017-03-10 12:53:01.549	Is not a good day. 

2017-03-10 12:53:05.667	-- it's not a debate. 

2017-03-10 12:53:09.549	There are no great -- grades. 

2017-03-10 12:53:13.55	Make your best guess and if you 

2017-03-10 12:53:19.553	can't go anywhere, stand in the 

2017-03-10 12:53:19.554	center. 

2017-03-10 12:53:19.555	Here is your personal experience 

2017-03-10 12:53:24.621	of making art. 

2017-03-10 12:53:25.591	Your personal experience of 

2017-03-10 12:53:25.593	making art. 

2017-03-10 12:53:26.6	Current active practitioners 

2017-03-10 12:53:29.59	currently making art, here. 

2017-03-10 12:53:30.594	Have practiced professionally 

2017-03-10 12:53:35.593	but not currently, you go here. 

2017-03-10 12:53:37.595	One is -- currently an active 

2017-03-10 12:53:46.682	professional practitioner, that 

2017-03-10 12:53:48.694	is here. 

2017-03-10 12:53:48.695	Practiced professionally, but 

2017-03-10 12:53:54.683	not currently -- you don't have 

2017-03-10 12:53:55.685	to move until you have heard all 

2017-03-10 12:53:55.686	the choices. 

2017-03-10 12:53:56.683	You might speed things up. 

2017-03-10 12:53:58.734	Currently an active professional 

2017-03-10 12:54:04.733	practitioner over here in the 

2017-03-10 12:54:06.736	arts. 

2017-03-10 12:54:06.737	Have practiced professionally 

2017-03-10 12:54:09.733	but not currently going here. 

2017-03-10 12:54:10.733	Have an artistic practice or 

2017-03-10 12:54:15.802	hobby but I don't pursue it 

2017-03-10 12:54:16.76	professionally, over there. 

2017-03-10 12:54:17.79	Had an artistic practice or 

2017-03-10 12:54:26.76	hobby but I gave it up, over

2017-03-10 12:54:27.77	there. 

2017-03-10 12:54:27.771	No direct experience of making

2017-03-10 12:54:34.845	art, no direct experience of 

2017-03-10 12:54:37.844	making art will be right here. 

2017-03-10 12:54:39.843	And again, meet the people you 

2017-03-10 12:54:44.843	arrive to. 

2017-03-10 12:54:49.845	It's about understanding each 

2017-03-10 12:54:49.846	other's areas of expertise and

2017-03-10 12:54:50.841	holes in expertise. 

2017-03-10 12:54:52.842	We have a lot of practitioners 

2017-03-10 12:54:55.849	in the room. 

2017-03-10 12:54:55.851	Say hello. 

2017-03-10 12:54:57.889	OK. 

2017-03-10 12:55:21.931	I'm joined to the on again. 

2017-03-10 12:55:23.933	-- I"m going to move you on 

2017-03-10 12:55:28.068	again. 

2017-03-10 12:55:28.069	Take note of who you were in 

2017-03-10 12:55:30.984	that circle with. 

2017-03-10 12:55:30.985	There are some people who sit in 

2017-03-10 12:55:36.985	many communities. 

2017-03-10 12:55:38.983	This is a question about your 

2017-03-10 12:55:40.987	professional role you are in 

2017-03-10 12:55:45.054	today at this convening. 

2017-03-10 12:55:45.055	Your professional role today at 

2017-03-10 12:55:50.055	this convening. 

2017-03-10 12:55:51.052	If you are a military 

2017-03-10 12:55:56.057	professional or veteran, go

2017-03-10 12:55:57.051	here. 

2017-03-10 12:55:57.052	If you are an artist, go here, 

2017-03-10 12:56:03.056	since so many of you are already 

2017-03-10 12:56:03.057	there. 

2017-03-10 12:56:04.174	Today in your professional role 

2017-03-10 12:56:08.1	in this convening if you are 

2017-03-10 12:56:08.102	here as an artist, a military 

2017-03-10 12:56:12.094	professional, if you are here as 

2017-03-10 12:56:13.095	a presenter, go there. 

2017-03-10 12:56:13.097	And if you are here as a funder, 

2017-03-10 12:56:18.096	go there. 

2017-03-10 12:56:18.097	I would say funders and service 

2017-03-10 12:56:25.099	organizations there. 

2017-03-10 12:56:25.1	That's where you would be. 

2017-03-10 12:56:28.093	Direct service, funders, that 

2017-03-10 12:56:33.163	corner. 

2017-03-10 12:56:33.164	Presenters, that corner. 

2017-03-10 12:56:36.136	Yes. 

2017-03-10 12:56:37.141	This circle looks too small. 

2017-03-10 12:56:45.147	Go there. 

2017-03-10 12:56:46.142	Do you know everybody in it

2017-03-10 12:56:49.136	already? 

2017-03-10 12:56:49.138	Good, so introduce yourself 

2017-03-10 12:56:52.141	here. 

2017-03-10 12:56:53.138	Service organization. 

2017-03-10 12:57:09.186	And your role? 

2017-03-10 12:57:11.234	Can you do me a favor? 

2017-03-10 12:57:17.247	Would you say your name in each 

2017-03-10 12:57:19.239	circle? 

2017-03-10 12:57:20.237	When we are done with that, we 

2017-03-10 12:57:24.238	are done with this part. 

2017-03-10 12:57:25.256	Find someone you don't know yet 

2017-03-10 12:57:29.264	and say hello. 

2017-03-10 12:57:29.265	It's interesting how many 

2017-03-10 12:57:48.344	people had to be in more than 

2017-03-10 12:57:48.346	one of these circles today. 

2017-03-10 12:57:48.347	Are you guys in this circle? 

2017-03-10 12:58:09.466	Making sure I didn't have

2017-03-10 12:58:12.445	another one by mistake. 

2017-03-10 12:58:13.444	Here comes the next thing. 

2017-03-10 12:58:17.439	This is a different exercise, a 

2017-03-10 12:58:20.486	little bit more complicated. 

2017-03-10 12:58:20.487	You will have to sort this out 

2017-03-10 12:58:23.49	yourselves. 

2017-03-10 12:58:23.491	So you see the circle you are 

2017-03-10 12:58:27.493	standing in currently. 

2017-03-10 12:58:27.494	Even if you have more than once 

2017-03-10 12:58:32.488	circle you stood in, work from 

2017-03-10 12:58:32.489	the one you are in currently. 

2017-03-10 12:58:32.49	It is your professional role. 

2017-03-10 12:58:35.485	How long have you been in it, 

2017-03-10 12:58:40.554	just put that number in your 

2017-03-10 12:58:40.555	head. 

2017-03-10 12:58:40.556	How long have you been in the 

2017-03-10 12:58:42.537	role that you are in now? 

2017-03-10 12:58:42.539	You don't have to necessarily 

2017-03-10 12:58:48.514	say out loud to the room, but it 

2017-03-10 12:58:49.519	will be revealed in a moment. 

2017-03-10 12:58:49.519	We are going to use this side of 

2017-03-10 12:58:53.639	the room and we are going to 

2017-03-10 12:58:53.641	make this circle here, it's 

2017-03-10 12:58:57.64	going to be a circle that goes 

2017-03-10 12:58:58.638	down this I'll, that aisle, and 

2017-03-10 12:59:00.639	circles in this open space -- 

2017-03-10 12:59:01.651	aisle, that aisle, and circles 

2017-03-10 12:59:05.643	in this open space. 

2017-03-10 12:59:07.642	Can we organize ourselves in 

2017-03-10 12:59:07.643	relation to Judy, and circle 

2017-03-10 12:59:11.643	here, based on how long you have 

2017-03-10 12:59:11.644	been in your role? 

2017-03-10 12:59:12.639	Judy, what number is this? 

2017-03-10 12:59:15.686	Judy: 30. 

2017-03-10 12:59:17.684	>> This number will go up 

2017-03-10 12:59:20.688	clockwise. 

2017-03-10 12:59:21.687	We are at 30. 

2017-03-10 12:59:23.684	we will be at 1 over there. 

2017-03-10 12:59:29.736	Organize yourselves. 

2017-03-10 12:59:29.737	You will have to talk to each 

2017-03-10 12:59:29.738	other to do it. 

2017-03-10 12:59:31.736	It's kind of like boarding at 

2017-03-10 12:59:35.752	Southwest, what number do you 

2017-03-10 12:59:35.753	have. 

2017-03-10 12:59:36.733	It's like a clock. 

2017-03-10 12:59:41.738	In the job, in the job, in the 

2017-03-10 12:59:46.735	job. 

2017-03-10 12:59:47.764	So, 0 to

2017-03-10 12:59:57.419	If it needs to spread back this 

2017-03-10 12:59:58.421	way, it can spread back this

2017-03-10 13:00:01.505	way. 

2017-03-10 13:00:01.506	I will say it again. 

2017-03-10 13:00:07.492	In the job, and the job, and the 

2017-03-10 13:00:10.49	job. 

2017-03-10 13:00:11.492	This is over 30 and that is less 

2017-03-10 13:00:17.493	than 30. 

2017-03-10 13:00:18.494	All right, let's pull this part 

2017-03-10 13:00:25.5	of the circle closer around 

2017-03-10 13:00:27.496	because we will make a whole 

2017-03-10 13:00:27.497	circle. 

2017-03-10 13:00:28.539	Let's pull it back. 

2017-03-10 13:00:29.54	You are 55? 

2017-03-10 13:00:32.58	Great. 

2017-03-10 13:00:33.578	And you? 

2017-03-10 13:00:35.578	What are you at? 

2017-03-10 13:00:36.581	One. 

2017-03-10 13:00:38.579	You are probably here. 

2017-03-10 13:00:41.576	>> do you mean in the role you 

2017-03-10 13:00:48.58	are in now? 

2017-03-10 13:00:48.581	>> and the job you are in. 

2017-03-10 13:00:51.578	When I said you professional 

2017-03-10 13:00:55.579	role, your role in that, your 

2017-03-10 13:00:58.579	time in that role. 

2017-03-10 13:00:59.58	Figure choice, which ever you 

2017-03-10 13:01:04.648	would rather do. 

2017-03-10 13:01:05.619	Represent your experience or 

2017-03-10 13:01:07.619	your place in the job. 

2017-03-10 13:01:08.619	Let's pull this. 

2017-03-10 13:01:10.619	Let's go ahead and close of the 

2017-03-10 13:01:16.624	circle. 

2017-03-10 13:01:16.625	Let's close up the circle. 

2017-03-10 13:01:23.619	Close up the circle. 

2017-03-10 13:01:26.625	Can you guys close of the circle

2017-03-10 13:01:31.622	so you are in single file 

2017-03-10 13:01:31.623	shoulder to shoulder? 

2017-03-10 13:01:31.625	Close up the circle. 

2017-03-10 13:01:34.62	There you go, they go. 

2017-03-10 13:01:36.621	-- there you go. 

2017-03-10 13:01:38.62	Great. 

2017-03-10 13:01:40.62	There we go. 

2017-03-10 13:01:42.623	So I believe Liz minimal 

2017-03-10 13:01:48.624	statement and she said she was 

2017-03-10 13:01:50.623	the longest. 

2017-03-10 13:01:51.623	Ah, I see. 

2017-03-10 13:01:56.624	Linda, how many years and you 

2017-03-10 13:01:58.624	standing in? 

2017-03-10 13:01:59.623	>> 44. 

2017-03-10 13:02:01.62	>> 42. 

2017-03-10 13:02:02.624	>> 44, 42. 

2017-03-10 13:02:05.622	>> 50, I think. 

2017-03-10 13:02:07.62	>> if she wants 50, give her 50. 

2017-03-10 13:02:10.624	This is all self reporting. 

2017-03-10 13:02:12.625	No one is keeping score here. 

2017-03-10 13:02:14.626	>> I want to say two to three. 

2017-03-10 13:02:18.624	>> I just moved into this line. 

2017-03-10 13:02:24.625	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:02:24.626	>> thank you for that. 

2017-03-10 13:02:26.671	Where is two to three? 

2017-03-10 13:02:30.716	Take a look at who you are 

2017-03-10 13:02:32.717	standing with. 

2017-03-10 13:02:33.716	Is there anybody on the circle 

2017-03-10 13:02:36.744	who is saying I'm standing 

2017-03-10 13:02:39.745	someplace but that doesn't 

2017-03-10 13:02:39.746	represent my time in this work? 

2017-03-10 13:02:39.747	Raise your hand if you're 

2017-03-10 13:02:43.749	standing somewhere but have 

2017-03-10 13:02:43.75	different experiences, the 

2017-03-10 13:02:45.748	amount of time he spent in the 

2017-03-10 13:02:45.749	work. 

2017-03-10 13:02:46.747	Shout out the lot of time spent 

2017-03-10 13:02:49.747	in the work. 

2017-03-10 13:02:50.747	15 years. 

2017-03-10 13:02:51.747	Seven years. 

2017-03-10 13:02:54.79	You will set their hand up? 

2017-03-10 13:02:56.79	Four years. 

2017-03-10 13:02:57.788	Margaret? 

2017-03-10 13:02:58.789	30. 

2017-03-10 13:02:59.787	40. 

2017-03-10 13:03:01.788	Where you standing? 

2017-03-10 13:03:03.788	Twentysomething there. 

2017-03-10 13:03:05.79	In this job. 

2017-03-10 13:03:08.79	Go wherever you want. 

2017-03-10 13:03:10.791	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:03:10.791	Who else feels really 

2017-03-10 13:03:15.792	misrepresented by we were 

2017-03-10 13:03:15.793	standing? 

2017-03-10 13:03:15.794	Yes, Rob? 

2017-03-10 13:03:17.791	>>. 30 

2017-03-10 13:03:18.79	>> a 30 there too. 

2017-03-10 13:03:21.791	You feel this represented where 

2017-03-10 13:03:24.79	you're standing? 

2017-03-10 13:03:24.791	28. 

2017-03-10 13:03:26.79	We have jobs and we have time in 

2017-03-10 13:03:29.789	the field. 

2017-03-10 13:03:29.79	We have both things. 

2017-03-10 13:03:31.788	They are separate things and 

2017-03-10 13:03:35.789	some of us has been a lot more 

2017-03-10 13:03:36.793	time in the field and in our 

2017-03-10 13:03:36.794	current job. 

2017-03-10 13:03:36.795	Some of us have been in the job 

2017-03-10 13:03:38.792	the whole time. 

2017-03-10 13:03:38.792	Yeah, yeah. 

2017-03-10 13:03:40.79	All right. 

2017-03-10 13:03:41.789	From here -- I think we will 

2017-03-10 13:03:48.792	deal with razor hands for these 

2017-03-10 13:03:50.792	things if he can. 

2017-03-10 13:03:51.791	Is that all right with 

2017-03-10 13:03:53.79	everybody? 

2017-03-10 13:03:53.791	Here we go. 

2017-03-10 13:03:55.79	Raise your hands if you've ever 

2017-03-10 13:03:59.789	been on this stage performing. 

2017-03-10 13:04:00.791	Take a look. 

2017-03-10 13:04:02.792	This is all about  how many gaps 

2017-03-10 13:04:07.791	in expertise there are in the 

2017-03-10 13:04:08.792	room. 

2017-03-10 13:04:09.792	Raise your hand if you've never 

2017-03-10 13:04:14.793	been on a military base. 

2017-03-10 13:04:15.791	Never been on a military base. 

2017-03-10 13:04:18.793	That you remember. 

2017-03-10 13:04:26.834	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:04:26.834	Raise your hand if you never 

2017-03-10 13:04:31.833	been in a VA Hospital. 

2017-03-10 13:04:33.832	If you have never entered it, 

2017-03-10 13:04:37.834	entered the building. 

2017-03-10 13:04:38.832	Visitor or for care or as a 

2017-03-10 13:04:40.835	veteran. 

2017-03-10 13:04:41.834	Raise your hand if you've never 

2017-03-10 13:04:45.836	been to a Broadway play, on 

2017-03-10 13:04:47.875	Broadway in New York. 

2017-03-10 13:04:48.918	Fraser hand if you have never 

2017-03-10 13:04:53.921	been to a rock -- Iraq or 

2017-03-10 13:04:55.966	Afghanistan. 

2017-03-10 13:04:55.967	OK. 

2017-03-10 13:05:01.035	Raise your hand if you've never 

2017-03-10 13:05:04.966	written a grant. 

2017-03-10 13:05:05.965	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:05:06.965	>> a lot of fundraisers in the 

2017-03-10 13:05:15.002	room. 

2017-03-10 13:05:15.003	Raise your hand, raise your hand 

2017-03-10 13:05:22.043	if you live in the city, town or 

2017-03-10 13:05:24.041	general area where you were

2017-03-10 13:05:26.041	born. 

2017-03-10 13:05:26.042	If you currently live in the 

2017-03-10 13:05:28.042	same general area where you were 

2017-03-10 13:05:31.043	born. 

2017-03-10 13:05:31.044	Raise your hand if you have ever 

2017-03-10 13:05:39.045	worked outside the United

2017-03-10 13:05:40.041	States. 

2017-03-10 13:05:40.043	Worked outside the United 

2017-03-10 13:05:42.043	States. 

2017-03-10 13:05:42.043	That can mean on tour. 

2017-03-10 13:05:44.045	Raise your hand -- put your 

2017-03-10 13:05:54.114	hands back up if you worked 

2017-03-10 13:05:55.085	outside United States. 

2017-03-10 13:05:56.085	If you have worked outside the 

2017-03-10 13:06:00.086	United States in more than two

2017-03-10 13:06:03.088	other countries besides the 

2017-03-10 13:06:03.089	United States. 

2017-03-10 13:06:03.09	More than three countries. 

2017-03-10 13:06:06.089	I'm sorry. 

2017-03-10 13:06:09.086	Interesting. 

2017-03-10 13:06:13.086	Volunteer. 

2017-03-10 13:06:15.085	Go ahead if you have volunteered 

2017-03-10 13:06:17.128	in other countries. 

2017-03-10 13:06:18.129	More than three? 

2017-03-10 13:06:20.128	More than five? 

2017-03-10 13:06:23.132	More than 10? 

2017-03-10 13:06:28.127	More than 15? 

2017-03-10 13:06:35.128	Who is left? 

2017-03-10 13:06:40.128	Margaret, how many countries 

2017-03-10 13:06:43.132	have you worked in? 

2017-03-10 13:06:43.133	Keith? 

2017-03-10 13:06:45.131	>> I would say 25. 

2017-03-10 13:06:48.171	>> now razor hand if you have 

2017-03-10 13:06:53.172	never left the United States. 

2017-03-10 13:06:54.171	Great. 

2017-03-10 13:07:00.168	That whole thing was just about 

2017-03-10 13:07:06.173	getting an understanding of the 

2017-03-10 13:07:06.175	range of experience in the room. 

2017-03-10 13:07:07.172	Hopefully you found yourself in 

2017-03-10 13:07:11.174	the majority on some things and 

2017-03-10 13:07:11.175	the minority on other things and 

2017-03-10 13:07:14.27	you can appreciate both sides of 

2017-03-10 13:07:14.27	that equation. 

2017-03-10 13:07:15.27	Where you are vulnerable, others 

2017-03-10 13:07:18.27	are vulnerable. 

2017-03-10 13:07:18.271	Today is about moving out of 

2017-03-10 13:07:20.27	that, moving from that space of 

2017-03-10 13:07:23.267	vulnerability to sharing your 

2017-03-10 13:07:25.266	expertise. 

2017-03-10 13:07:25.267	That is what we will do. 

2017-03-10 13:07:27.268	We will start now with this 

2017-03-10 13:07:31.267	experience of the stories. 

2017-03-10 13:07:31.267	Has everybody turned in their 

2017-03-10 13:07:34.292	story? 

2017-03-10 13:07:35.296	Yes. 

2017-03-10 13:07:37.295	Do you have it? 

2017-03-10 13:07:38.296	It goes in the basket. 

2017-03-10 13:07:40.295	If you have not turned it in, it 

2017-03-10 13:07:44.341	goes in the basket. 

2017-03-10 13:07:44.342	So, we will start this process. 

2017-03-10 13:07:49.341	Why don't you guys go ahead and 

2017-03-10 13:07:54.339	take a seat while we get this 

2017-03-10 13:07:54.34	started? 

2017-03-10 13:07:55.34	Take your seats. 

2017-03-10 13:07:56.338	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:08:01.338	No problem. 

2017-03-10 13:08:04.38	Good. 

2017-03-10 13:08:06.381	OK. 

2017-03-10 13:08:08.38	We are going to kick this off. 

2017-03-10 13:08:12.421	We did a little bit of cheating 

2017-03-10 13:08:17.421	on the exercise. 

2017-03-10 13:08:18.422	Essentially the way this 

2017-03-10 13:08:21.425	exercise is going to run is we 

2017-03-10 13:08:25.422	are going to read a story, 

2017-03-10 13:08:28.422	someone will read a story. 

2017-03-10 13:08:28.423	I will start it. 

2017-03-10 13:08:30.423	The person who story that is 

2017-03-10 13:08:33.422	will step up, introduce 

2017-03-10 13:08:35.473	themselves, just your name and 

2017-03-10 13:08:37.47	affiliation, and then take 

2017-03-10 13:08:40.47	another story out of the basket. 

2017-03-10 13:08:41.594	Read that story. 

2017-03-10 13:08:43.519	The person whose story that is 

2017-03-10 13:08:46.52	steps up, says their name and 

2017-03-10 13:08:49.521	their affiliation, takes the 

2017-03-10 13:08:51.521	next story, reads it. 

2017-03-10 13:08:52.519	The person who story just got 

2017-03-10 13:08:53.522	red steps up and says her name 

2017-03-10 13:08:56.52	and affiliation. 

2017-03-10 13:08:56.521	Clear enough? 

2017-03-10 13:08:57.521	Here we go. 

2017-03-10 13:08:58.52	Let's try it. 

2017-03-10 13:09:00.521	I have the first story. 

2017-03-10 13:09:02.548	Julian, beloved father to me, 

2017-03-10 13:09:07.617	World War II Navy Cross, USS of 

2017-03-10 13:09:09.591	Anna bond -- USS Savannah, you 

2017-03-10 13:09:14.59	pulled shipmates from burning 

2017-03-10 13:09:15.593	Tour -- turrets, age 90, 

2017-03-10 13:09:24.59	hospice nurse, PTSD. 

2017-03-10 13:09:27.591	You said you never dreamed since 

2017-03-10 13:09:30.592	the war. 

2017-03-10 13:09:30.593	Put it in the basket. 

2017-03-10 13:09:36.592	I just blew it. 

2017-03-10 13:09:38.634	>> thank you. 

2017-03-10 13:09:40.634	Jane Preston, nifa. 

2017-03-10 13:09:45.635	Nothing on stage but shares in a 

2017-03-10 13:09:47.638	few lights. 

2017-03-10 13:09:47.639	Five veterans shared stories and 

2017-03-10 13:09:53.635	monologues of wars unknown to me 

2017-03-10 13:09:55.638	beyond protests and a TV screen. 

2017-03-10 13:09:56.638	They played themselves and it 

2017-03-10 13:09:59.636	was powerful. 

2017-03-10 13:09:59.637	After we all talked to each 

2017-03-10 13:10:02.637	other. 

2017-03-10 13:10:03.635	Some people cried. 

2017-03-10 13:10:04.634	I felt the distance between us 

2017-03-10 13:10:07.675	narrow. 

2017-03-10 13:10:07.676	It moved me beyond words. 

2017-03-10 13:10:10.679	>> Jamie, HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 13:10:24.683	I remember him as a baby, now 

2017-03-10 13:10:27.681	wearing boots and khakis he is 

2017-03-10 13:10:29.683	disassembling and cleaning his 

2017-03-10 13:10:29.684	rifle against that same carpet. 

2017-03-10 13:10:31.683	On leave for the weekend before 

2017-03-10 13:10:33.684	his wedding. 

2017-03-10 13:10:34.682	My nephew says in English he 

2017-03-10 13:10:38.728	does not use during his Israeli 

2017-03-10 13:10:38.729	army conscription, startling, 

2017-03-10 13:10:41.728	isn't it? 

2017-03-10 13:10:42.727	>> there were cash, Boston dance 

2017-03-10 13:10:56.771	alliance. 

2017-03-10 13:10:57.778	Texted photo of my daughter and 

2017-03-10 13:11:00.777	I on the Mekong River to Paul -- 

2017-03-10 13:11:06.807	I hope I got that right, veteran 

2017-03-10 13:11:08.807	who participated in healing 

2017-03-10 13:11:09.802	wars. 

2017-03-10 13:11:10.807	He told me the first thing he 

2017-03-10 13:11:12.808	did in Vietnam was thrust his 

2017-03-10 13:11:14.808	hand in boiling water so he 

2017-03-10 13:11:17.81	wouldn't have to carry a gun. 

2017-03-10 13:11:18.801	The message reply -- mekong, my 

2017-03-10 13:11:24.803	favorite place in the world. 

2017-03-10 13:11:25.802	>> Liz Lerman, choreographer at 

2017-03-10 13:11:37.927	the Institute Professor for 

2017-03-10 13:11:39.927	design and the arts. 

2017-03-10 13:11:40.927	So tell me about yourself, mama. 

2017-03-10 13:11:46.929	I need to trust you. 

2017-03-10 13:11:48.927	I am granddaughter of a 

2017-03-10 13:11:50.927	five-star great-grandmother. 

2017-03-10 13:11:51.928	I am honored to work with you in 

2017-03-10 13:11:56.021	the brave men and women that 

2017-03-10 13:11:58.022	served our country in keeping 

2017-03-10 13:12:00.055	our nation safe. 

2017-03-10 13:12:00.056	My experience with members of 

2017-03-10 13:12:03.179	the armed services has been 

2017-03-10 13:12:05.178	humbling, inspirational and 

2017-03-10 13:12:07.179	inspiring. 

2017-03-10 13:12:07.18	Thank you. 

2017-03-10 13:12:09.178	>> on Dr. Michelle stephanelli, 

2017-03-10 13:12:28.221	from the DA health system. 

2017-03-10 13:12:30.271	There was a time I thought the 

2017-03-10 13:12:32.306	military and art were deposed 

2017-03-10 13:12:34.304	forces. 

2017-03-10 13:12:35.303	Art is civil and social. 

2017-03-10 13:12:37.304	The man said fighting for the 

2017-03-10 13:12:39.304	one's country can round out the 

2017-03-10 13:12:42.305	unfit citizen. 

2017-03-10 13:12:45.304	I have swag Leonard. 

2017-03-10 13:12:49.32	Artful heal. 

2017-03-10 13:12:51.324	Art helps us win hearts and 

2017-03-10 13:12:53.32	minds and becomes a bigger wind

2017-03-10 13:12:58.388	soldier. 

2017-03-10 13:12:58.389	>> I am Christopher Boucher. 

2017-03-10 13:13:13.394	Performer. 

2017-03-10 13:13:18.347	Performer with en garde a 

2017-03-10 13:13:25.348	rts. 

2017-03-10 13:13:25.349	The arts have changed the 

2017-03-10 13:13:29.39	direction of my life. 

2017-03-10 13:13:30.39	Imagine being a law

2017-03-10 13:13:34.387	enforcement, but through pure 

2017-03-10 13:13:36.39	chance I ended up in a writing 

2017-03-10 13:13:38.389	group. 

2017-03-10 13:13:38.39	And as a playwright. 

2017-03-10 13:13:40.388	>> good choice. 

2017-03-10 13:13:50.392	Marie's, -- Maruice, TCG. 

2017-03-10 13:14:00.462	Our first year of the military 

2017-03-10 13:14:03.432	family first program beginning 

2017-03-10 13:14:05.431	the lesson in the power of 

2017-03-10 13:14:07.431	shared family arts experience to 

2017-03-10 13:14:10.432	heal deep ones. 

2017-03-10 13:14:11.431	Example, estranged family coming 

2017-03-10 13:14:16.432	together -- traumatized

2017-03-10 13:14:22.434	veterans. 

2017-03-10 13:14:22.435	Laughter with their kids for the 

2017-03-10 13:14:25.478	first time in years. 

2017-03-10 13:14:26.524	>> I am Michael Reed from 

2017-03-10 13:14:44.57	Arizona State University. 

2017-03-10 13:14:44.571	Veterans, artists -- veterans, 

2017-03-10 13:14:57.641	artists -- 

2017-03-10 13:15:01.64	>> I did not go to school for in 

2017-03-10 13:15:03.641	writing. 

2017-03-10 13:15:03.642	>> veterans are not victims. 

2017-03-10 13:15:06.64	I'm sorry. 

2017-03-10 13:15:07.639	>> trauma does not always need 

2017-03-10 13:15:12.71	to be tragic. 

2017-03-10 13:15:12.711	>> I'm sorry, I have terrible 

2017-03-10 13:15:16.643	and right. 

2017-03-10 13:15:17.641	[APPLAUSE] 

2017-03-10 13:15:17.642	>> Sam Pressler, Armed Services

2017-03-10 13:15:27.641	-- comedy Boot Camp. 

2017-03-10 13:15:28.643	Did not have a good penmanship 

2017-03-10 13:15:31.641	teacher growing up. 

2017-03-10 13:15:32.642	I visited you in your space. 

2017-03-10 13:15:38.642	I chose my music carefully. 

2017-03-10 13:15:40.642	Thinking about how it might make 

2017-03-10 13:15:42.643	you feel. 

2017-03-10 13:15:42.644	What memories were sparked by 

2017-03-10 13:15:44.642	the melody. 

2017-03-10 13:15:45.641	What their emotions arose from 

2017-03-10 13:15:47.644	harmony. 

2017-03-10 13:15:48.644	Why is it the music brought 

2017-03-10 13:15:51.642	tears to procure rise in mind? 

2017-03-10 13:15:52.642	What new memory have we forged 

2017-03-10 13:15:55.643	together? 

2017-03-10 13:15:55.644	>> we so long -- Lisa Long,

2017-03-10 13:16:05.713	physician at Harvard Medical 

2017-03-10 13:16:05.714	School and parts of the arts and 

2017-03-10 13:16:08.686	humanities initiative there. 

2017-03-10 13:16:08.687	Love the art in yourself. 

2017-03-10 13:16:14.685	Fuck yourself in the art. 

2017-03-10 13:16:18.725	Blood resulting context, but 

2017-03-10 13:16:21.725	only with your family, your 

2017-03-10 13:16:23.725	friend, your team. 

2017-03-10 13:16:24.725	Pictures of our town, from our 

2017-03-10 13:16:27.726	planet. 

2017-03-10 13:16:28.725	Love us hard, love a steep, love 

2017-03-10 13:16:33.729	to serve, serve to love. 

2017-03-10 13:16:35.727	Loving, you are worth the fight. 

2017-03-10 13:16:38.729	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:16:47.728	>> Susan baby do this salty 

2017-03-10 13:16:56.822	version. 

2017-03-10 13:16:57.822	I was so hoping she had to read 

2017-03-10 13:16:59.822	it. 

2017-03-10 13:16:59.823	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:17:00.821	Bill O'Brien, NEA and the 

2017-03-10 13:17:07.818	military healing arts network. 

2017-03-10 13:17:08.818	My father saw World War II 

2017-03-10 13:17:11.849	Pacific action. 

2017-03-10 13:17:11.849	Speaking fluent Japanese he was 

2017-03-10 13:17:14.848	on staff of the Sugamo prison 

2017-03-10 13:17:18.931	during the occupation. 

2017-03-10 13:17:18.932	When I was four we joined him. 

2017-03-10 13:17:20.934	I know love grandpa dollhouses 

2017-03-10 13:17:24.934	-- no longer have a dollhouses 

2017-03-10 13:17:27.934	the prisoners made for me. 

2017-03-10 13:17:28.934	"The Japanese are good people. 

2017-03-10 13:17:30.934	They are like us, only their 

2017-03-10 13:17:33.936	leaders were wrong." 

2017-03-10 13:17:34.938	>> Chris Dwyer, RMC research. 

2017-03-10 13:17:52.069	This was written as a poem and 

2017-03-10 13:17:55.07	the title is "rewards." 

2017-03-10 13:17:57.072	I will become a family 

2017-03-10 13:17:57.073	physician, birthing babies,

2017-03-10 13:18:01.072	healing, caring, curing. 

2017-03-10 13:18:01.073	That will be rewarding, and it 

2017-03-10 13:18:03.105	was. 

2017-03-10 13:18:03.105	Then to the dark side. 

2017-03-10 13:18:05.104	Administration, paperwork, 

2017-03-10 13:18:07.148	policies., budgets, board 

2017-03-10 13:18:10.146	meetings -- board meeting, I am 

2017-03-10 13:18:13.147	late. 

2017-03-10 13:18:13.148	Rushing. 

2017-03-10 13:18:14.188	She grabs my arm. 

2017-03-10 13:18:16.186	Recognition. 

2017-03-10 13:18:17.188	You run this place, right? 

2017-03-10 13:18:19.189	Yes. 

2017-03-10 13:18:20.188	You saved my son's life. 

2017-03-10 13:18:22.188	Thank you. 

2017-03-10 13:18:23.189	How rewarding. 

2017-03-10 13:18:24.188	>> I am Sarah Cass, creative 

2017-03-10 13:18:36.188	forces NEA healing forces arts 

2017-03-10 13:18:39.19	partnership. 

2017-03-10 13:18:40.189	Raised in a military family, my 

2017-03-10 13:18:47.188	dad is a retired Marine and I'm 

2017-03-10 13:18:49.189	always and I could duty Navy 

2017-03-10 13:18:49.19	nurse. 

2017-03-10 13:18:50.186	Place to visit my mom at lunch 

2017-03-10 13:18:54.187	at Bethesda Naval Hospital 

2017-03-10 13:18:54.188	before I joined the Navy. 

2017-03-10 13:18:55.188	Then one day I woke up on the 

2017-03-10 13:18:58.188	other side of the curtain. 

2017-03-10 13:18:58.188	Leg gone. 

2017-03-10 13:19:00.187	>> hello. 

2017-03-10 13:19:11.274	I am PaulHearly. 

2017-03-10 13:19:17.272	I was created and put on this 

2017-03-10 13:19:23.273	earth to bring -- bring, make, 

2017-03-10 13:19:37.27	and take art the places where it 

2017-03-10 13:19:40.27	needs to be. 

2017-03-10 13:19:40.271	Born in a coastal town where the 

2017-03-10 13:19:44.317	tide and then flowed and painted 

2017-03-10 13:19:47.321	my environment, pianos and 

2017-03-10 13:19:51.371	saxophones my lullaby and 

2017-03-10 13:19:53.372	soundtrack. 

2017-03-10 13:19:53.373	>> I am Burt with quarterback 

2017-03-10 13:20:02.372	theater. 

2017-03-10 13:20:03.372	Shameless plug. 

2017-03-10 13:20:06.398	Tell what you're going to tell 

2017-03-10 13:20:12.482	them and tell them again. 

2017-03-10 13:20:13.482	The smoke session. 

2017-03-10 13:20:15.484	Freshly minted civil servant on 

2017-03-10 13:20:19.482	inactive duty installation

2017-03-10 13:20:23.482	quickly learns the importance of 

2017-03-10 13:20:23.483	understanding Army culture. 

2017-03-10 13:20:25.482	Language and history. 

2017-03-10 13:20:27.483	Patient. 

2017-03-10 13:20:29.482	I want to smoke. 

2017-03-10 13:20:32.482	Psychologist imagining a gun 

2017-03-10 13:20:38.527	and Kravis book falling will -- 

2017-03-10 13:20:40.624	following bullet discharge. 

2017-03-10 13:20:40.625	Doc seeks help. 

2017-03-10 13:20:42.622	Give me a second. 

2017-03-10 13:20:43.622	Supervisor belly laughing 

2017-03-10 13:20:47.624	uncontrollably. 

2017-03-10 13:20:47.625	No, he is not homicidal. 

2017-03-10 13:20:51.623	>> Scott Angelle, for good 

2017-03-10 13:21:02.691	taxes. 

2017-03-10 13:21:02.692	-- Fort Hood, Texas. 

2017-03-10 13:21:05.694	I am a daughter of a retired 

2017-03-10 13:21:08.734	colonel with one of the highest 

2017-03-10 13:21:10.734	discharge records in the U.S. 

2017-03-10 13:21:10.735	Air Force, nicknamed Darth Vega 

2017-03-10 13:21:16.734	. 

2017-03-10 13:21:16.735	Working in theater. 

2017-03-10 13:21:17.734	Makes no sense to my flight line 

2017-03-10 13:21:20.733	weathered father. 

2017-03-10 13:21:21.735	But once when I was dealing with 

2017-03-10 13:21:23.734	a difficult partner, theater, he 

2017-03-10 13:21:26.733	referred to them as a hostile 

2017-03-10 13:21:29.734	enemy. 

2017-03-10 13:21:29.735	So I think he gets it. 

2017-03-10 13:21:31.734	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:21:32.733	>> I am Abigail Vega, Commons 

2017-03-10 13:21:44.776	and HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 13:21:45.777	Daughter of Darth. 

2017-03-10 13:21:47.778	What defines the life of so many 

2017-03-10 13:21:52.777	I only encounter as a headline, 

2017-03-10 13:21:54.777	except that tax time as I write 

2017-03-10 13:21:54.778	the check, pay for the bombs, 

2017-03-10 13:21:57.777	wonder from afar whose lives 

2017-03-10 13:21:59.774	will be forever changed. 

2017-03-10 13:22:00.773	War. 

2017-03-10 13:22:01.818	Three letters, so concrete, but 

2017-03-10 13:22:05.816	also abstract. 

2017-03-10 13:22:05.816	Existing only on TV, in the 

2017-03-10 13:22:09.864	news, over there. 

2017-03-10 13:22:09.865	Never for me. 

2017-03-10 13:22:10.867	>> I am Maureen White, consulted 

2017-03-10 13:22:21.873	to Nefa doing documentation for 

2017-03-10 13:22:24.903	this weekend. 

2017-03-10 13:22:25.904	Strategically picked that type 

2017-03-10 13:22:33.945	one to avoid handwriting. 

2017-03-10 13:22:33.946	Memory. 

2017-03-10 13:22:36.985	In my youth. 

2017-03-10 13:22:38.986	Age is a relevant. 

2017-03-10 13:22:39.986	Military hospital. 

2017-03-10 13:22:41.986	Father, Air Force. 

2017-03-10 13:22:42.985	Long, hospital procedure. 

2017-03-10 13:22:44.986	Feeling anxious to visit. 

2017-03-10 13:22:46.986	Father driving and car. 

2017-03-10 13:22:48.985	White walls, bids, nurses, 

2017-03-10 13:22:51.987	doctors. 

2017-03-10 13:22:51.988	Voices speaking. 

2017-03-10 13:22:52.985	Chilled. 

2017-03-10 13:22:54.985	Smell. 

2017-03-10 13:22:55.986	Mom and dad. 

2017-03-10 13:22:56.986	Tubes, machines, sick, helpless, 

2017-03-10 13:23:02.987	take away her pain. 

2017-03-10 13:23:02.988	Feeling helpless. 

2017-03-10 13:23:04.986	Let me take any pain. 

2017-03-10 13:23:06.987	>> Keith Thompson, Liz Lerman 

2017-03-10 13:23:22.987	projects and Rutgers University. 

2017-03-10 13:23:23.987	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:23:32.027	Sorry, it is because the font is 

2017-03-10 13:23:37.03	so small. 

2017-03-10 13:23:38.032	>> I helped organize an art 

2017-03-10 13:23:40.028	residency despite not knowing 

2017-03-10 13:23:42.028	what a dance company is. 

2017-03-10 13:23:43.027	I recruited other were veterans 

2017-03-10 13:23:49.031	without involving myself in the 

2017-03-10 13:23:49.032	process. 

2017-03-10 13:23:50.031	I do not believe dance would 

2017-03-10 13:23:52.031	convey a story. 

2017-03-10 13:23:53.031	During the performance I cried. 

2017-03-10 13:23:55.029	I discovered the power of 

2017-03-10 13:23:57.031	performing arts are veterans. 

2017-03-10 13:23:58.031	>> in my voice. 

2017-03-10 13:24:00.071	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:24:00.072	>> somebody who left? 

2017-03-10 13:24:11.121	>>Is it yours? 

2017-03-10 13:24:15.123	>>, yes or. 

2017-03-10 13:24:17.12	>> I helped organize and arts 

2017-03-10 13:24:20.127	residency. 

2017-03-10 13:24:20.128	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:24:21.118	>>

2017-03-10 13:24:21.118	 Art, director of military 

2017-03-10 13:24:30.194	affairs a Kansas State in 

2017-03-10 13:24:30.194	diversity and Army veteran. 

2017-03-10 13:24:31.194	And he got me in trouble

2017-03-10 13:24:33.194	already. 

2017-03-10 13:24:33.195	She got here late and got me in 

2017-03-10 13:24:35.194	trouble. 

2017-03-10 13:24:35.195	I had to do this trick, too. 

2017-03-10 13:24:39.197	Four veterans convened, four 

2017-03-10 13:24:43.203	intensive months. 

2017-03-10 13:24:43.204	Stories were told,, insur -- 

2017-03-10 13:24:50.198	suffering is optional. 

2017-03-10 13:24:51.197	Within us runs the blood of -- I 

2017-03-10 13:24:58.281	should know that word. 

2017-03-10 13:24:59.282	>> grios. 

2017-03-10 13:25:01.283	>> the state has become a 

2017-03-10 13:25:03.285	hollowed ground. 

2017-03-10 13:25:07.279	Collective healing has occurred. 

2017-03-10 13:25:08.283	This is posttraumatic growth. 

2017-03-10 13:25:10.283	>>

2017-03-10 13:25:10.283	 hi everyone. 

2017-03-10 13:25:23.372	Anthony Torres, combat hippies. 

2017-03-10 13:25:26.374	When it are no words, look 

2017-03-10 13:25:30.374	inward. 

2017-03-10 13:25:30.375	Symbolize the unknown. 

2017-03-10 13:25:32.377	Until it becomes clear. 

2017-03-10 13:25:34.374	Take form right before you, from 

2017-03-10 13:25:36.374	you. 

2017-03-10 13:25:37.423	The colors of your soul emerge 

2017-03-10 13:25:40.424	from a paintbrush. 

2017-03-10 13:25:40.424	Embrace your emotions. 

2017-03-10 13:25:42.424	Through the shapes you a

2017-03-10 13:25:47.424	molded clay. 

2017-03-10 13:25:48.427	This is your visual voice. 

2017-03-10 13:25:49.424	Talk to me. 

2017-03-10 13:25:51.424	My eyes are listening. 

2017-03-10 13:25:52.435	>> I am Melissa Walker, an art 

2017-03-10 13:26:04.532	therapist for the Department of 

2017-03-10 13:26:04.533	Defense and part of the creative 

2017-03-10 13:26:06.533	forces team. 

2017-03-10 13:26:07.532	When my grandfather got back 

2017-03-10 13:26:17.535	from World War II my 

2017-03-10 13:26:19.536	five-year-old dad asked him why 

2017-03-10 13:26:21.534	he did not have a Purple Heart 

2017-03-10 13:26:22.538	like his brothers. 

2017-03-10 13:26:23.534	Dad held guilt about that, even 

2017-03-10 13:26:27.539	as an adult. 

2017-03-10 13:26:28.535	Grandpa died on September 14, 

2017-03-10 13:26:32.535	2001 and dad prayed he was too 

2017-03-10 13:26:34.536	out of it to understand what had 

2017-03-10 13:26:36.537	happened three days earlier. 

2017-03-10 13:26:36.538	>> I manager Carlson, University 

2017-03-10 13:26:47.536	of Texas at Austin. 

2017-03-10 13:26:47.537	-- Andrew Carlson. 

2017-03-10 13:26:52.604	Volunteer hospice care for a 

2017-03-10 13:26:59.569	woman on Medicaid. 

2017-03-10 13:27:00.572	Cancer in her spine. 

2017-03-10 13:27:03.572	Drug addicted, in paying, 

2017-03-10 13:27:06.576	selling legal scripts figure 

2017-03-10 13:27:08.576	eight-year-old son on the

2017-03-10 13:27:10.575	street. 

2017-03-10 13:27:10.576	Not this theater of war, but a 

2017-03-10 13:27:15.575	theater of war all the same, 

2017-03-10 13:27:17.625	with a similar recipe. 

2017-03-10 13:27:17.625	Class, race, pain, loss, on the 

2017-03-10 13:27:24.701	ground. 

2017-03-10 13:27:24.702	Heavy in the states. 

2017-03-10 13:27:30.699	-- in the states. 

2017-03-10 13:27:37.702	>> I am Karla Peterson, national 

2017-03-10 13:27:45.702	Center for choreography in 

2017-03-10 13:27:47.786	Tallahassee. 

2017-03-10 13:27:47.787	Meeting with the brass. 

2017-03-10 13:27:51.784	Military conference room meeting 

2017-03-10 13:27:55.785	on real estate and environment 

2017-03-10 13:27:55.786	of issues. 

2017-03-10 13:27:56.784	Civilians state employees on one 

2017-03-10 13:27:58.785	side, uniforms on the other. 

2017-03-10 13:28:00.785	Highly stylized negotiation. 

2017-03-10 13:28:03.785	I hear lots of Sir's,

2017-03-10 13:28:08.786	intermittent vocal projection 

2017-03-10 13:28:08.787	and acronyms. 

2017-03-10 13:28:08.788	Things do get done eventually, 

2017-03-10 13:28:11.785	if it is done their way. 

2017-03-10 13:28:13.463	That was not strange but their 

2017-03-10 13:28:14.786	way was, to me at least. 

2017-03-10 13:28:16.786	>> Dave Slattery -- sorry. 

2017-03-10 13:28:30.786	Massachusetts cultural Council. 

2017-03-10 13:28:33.785	Fallujah, 2004. 

2017-03-10 13:28:37.786	Operation Phantom fury. 

2017-03-10 13:28:39.785	We step on an IED that does not 

2017-03-10 13:28:41.786	detonate, but one of your men 

2017-03-10 13:28:44.787	does, killing him. 

2017-03-10 13:28:45.785	Quantico, Virginia. 

2017-03-10 13:28:46.826	2010. 

2017-03-10 13:28:48.827	With a loaded m-9 in your hand 

2017-03-10 13:28:52.829	and you realize you almost shut 

2017-03-10 13:28:56.828	your kids when it was just 

2017-03-10 13:28:56.829	squirrels on the roof. 

2017-03-10 13:28:56.829	>> Jeremy Nobel, foundation for 

2017-03-10 13:29:06.826	Art and healing, Harvard Medical 

2017-03-10 13:29:07.824	School Center for primary care 

2017-03-10 13:29:11.83	and the arts and humanities 

2017-03-10 13:29:11.831	initiative. 

2017-03-10 13:29:11.832	The first time I worked with a 

2017-03-10 13:29:23.87	veteran I was  -- 2005 project. 

2017-03-10 13:29:30.919	With Matthew Howard, cofounder 

2017-03-10 13:29:34.923	of Iraq. 

2017-03-10 13:29:36.923	Veterans against the war in 

2017-03-10 13:29:37.922	2012, I joined speed killed my 

2017-03-10 13:29:39.923	cousin as the director and is in 

2017-03-10 13:29:42.954	facilitating arts workshops for 

2017-03-10 13:29:42.955	veterans and partnership with 

2017-03-10 13:29:44.955	the carpetbag theater ever 

2017-03-10 13:29:45.957	since. 

2017-03-10 13:29:45.958	>> I'm Andrea, artistic director 

2017-03-10 13:29:57.954	of art to action and artist 

2017-03-10 13:29:59.953	residents of the University of 

2017-03-10 13:30:01.954	South Florida. 

2017-03-10 13:30:01.955	That was the fifth commandment 

2017-03-10 13:30:05.954	that I was referring to. 

2017-03-10 13:30:05.955	First time. 

2017-03-10 13:30:10.037	John is the, the Vietnam veteran 

2017-03-10 13:30:13.079	with -- [NO AUDIO] 

2017-03-10 13:30:36.08	>> I am Helen, so it's a sick 

2017-03-10 13:35:23.088	director of Black Swan arts and 

2017-03-10 13:35:23.089	media in Oakland, California. 

2017-03-10 13:35:25.087	I can't talk to veterans. 

2017-03-10 13:35:39.087	I do not have the right. 

2017-03-10 13:35:41.088	All of my dances are about AIDS,

2017-03-10 13:35:46.157	living in the Castro, gender, 

2017-03-10 13:35:48.131	and the struggles of 

2017-03-10 13:35:49.128	marginalized, queer people. 

2017-03-10 13:35:51.13	Linda says you are wrong. 

2017-03-10 13:35:53.131	Your stuff is about 

2017-03-10 13:35:55.13	understanding human struggle. 

2017-03-10 13:35:56.132	Some of these vets are 

2017-03-10 13:35:58.13	struggling. 

2017-03-10 13:35:59.13	At least give them an ear. 

2017-03-10 13:36:01.131	>> I am Joe Good, artistic 

2017-03-10 13:36:16.224	director of Joe Good performance 

2017-03-10 13:36:19.225	group and professor at UC 

2017-03-10 13:36:20.224	Berkeley. 

2017-03-10 13:36:21.224	As a World War II Navy surgeon

2017-03-10 13:36:29.225	my father-in-law was twice 

2017-03-10 13:36:29.225	shipped home from the South 

2017-03-10 13:36:31.225	Pacific with battle fatigue. 

2017-03-10 13:36:33.226	A loving family man and 

2017-03-10 13:36:36.26	cardiologist into his 80's, 

2017-03-10 13:36:39.253	Alvin nonetheless suffered from 

2017-03-10 13:36:40.299	depression and nightmares. 

2017-03-10 13:36:42.294	Years after his death we found a 

2017-03-10 13:36:45.297	cachet of contemporaneous 

2017-03-10 13:36:48.297	letters, heavily censored. 

2017-03-10 13:36:50.296	He evidently did an ungodly 

2017-03-10 13:36:53.299	amount of laundry. 

2017-03-10 13:36:55.301	>> Susan Fader, Mellon 

2017-03-10 13:37:14.422	foundation. 

2017-03-10 13:37:15.422	Several years ago I volunteered 

2017-03-10 13:37:18.424	and pastoral care at a local 

2017-03-10 13:37:19.423	hospital. 

2017-03-10 13:37:20.422	I realized what it truly means 

2017-03-10 13:37:23.423	to encounter human interaction

2017-03-10 13:37:26.424	without any foregone 

2017-03-10 13:37:26.425	expectations or conclusions. 

2017-03-10 13:37:28.427	without judgment and people 

2017-03-10 13:37:31.423	without knowing the answers, 

2017-03-10 13:37:33.423	being present to their needs 

2017-03-10 13:37:34.425	with an open heart. 

2017-03-10 13:37:34.426	Doctors heal the body. 

2017-03-10 13:37:38.424	Who heals the soul? 

2017-03-10 13:37:40.474	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:37:47.524	>> Cheryl with the charitable 

2017-03-10 13:37:54.525	foundation in New York. 

2017-03-10 13:37:55.524	I was once asked what I do by a 

2017-03-10 13:38:06.55	stranger in line at the bank. 

2017-03-10 13:38:08.59	I told her I was a dancer. 

2017-03-10 13:38:10.594	She just could not put dance and 

2017-03-10 13:38:13.593	meet together. 

2017-03-10 13:38:14.592	She thought for a moment and 

2017-03-10 13:38:16.592	said, oh, you can walk. 

2017-03-10 13:38:19.592	I said, no. 

2017-03-10 13:38:20.593	She laughed and said that was 

2017-03-10 13:38:23.593	very funny. 

2017-03-10 13:38:24.593	>> I am Judith Smith, founder 

2017-03-10 13:38:38.634	and director of access dance 

2017-03-10 13:38:42.636	company in Oakland, California. 

2017-03-10 13:38:43.633	I probably should have brought 

2017-03-10 13:38:50.635	my glasses. 

2017-03-10 13:38:50.636	Yeah, I can't get used to having 

2017-03-10 13:38:55.636	things on my face. 

2017-03-10 13:38:56.636	Which is kind of funny since I 

2017-03-10 13:39:05.673	use a wheelchair. 

2017-03-10 13:39:05.674	Growing up with me -- growing up 

2017-03-10 13:39:13.673	with men who are either being 

2017-03-10 13:39:13.674	drafted or in fear of being 

2017-03-10 13:39:15.674	drafted, service was not 

2017-03-10 13:39:18.678	optional. 

2017-03-10 13:39:19.676	C and A was a real part of 

2017-03-10 13:39:28.679	family discussion. 

2017-03-10 13:39:28.68	My sister, Marcy, a Marine, my 

2017-03-10 13:39:34.726	brothers joined the Navy. 

2017-03-10 13:39:34.727	My West seniors encounter -- no. 

2017-03-10 13:39:40.726	My next serious encounter was 

2017-03-10 13:39:44.725	with the children of company 

2017-03-10 13:39:49.794	members who needed employment. 

2017-03-10 13:39:51.774	>> without glasses. 

2017-03-10 13:39:57.775	Hi. I am Linda Perez Bailey put 

2017-03-10 13:40:02.777	the carpetbag theater. 

2017-03-10 13:40:02.778	Playwright. 

2017-03-10 13:40:04.773	It was highly edited. 

2017-03-10 13:40:12.774	OK. 

2017-03-10 13:40:14.777	I was honorably discharged from 

2017-03-10 13:40:18.779	the U.S. Army in 2001. 

2017-03-10 13:40:19.773	In 2012, 11 years later I shared 

2017-03-10 13:40:23.803	my story for the first time in a 

2017-03-10 13:40:25.803	story circle with a nonprofit 

2017-03-10 13:40:27.803	community-based arts 

2017-03-10 13:40:28.804	organization, carpetbag theater. 

2017-03-10 13:40:30.847	That was the day I stopped 

2017-03-10 13:40:34.887	contemplating ending my life, 

2017-03-10 13:40:37.887	but instead decided to live life 

2017-03-10 13:40:37.888	to the fullest. 

2017-03-10 13:40:38.887	[APPLAUSE] 

2017-03-10 13:40:39.886	That was not planned. 

2017-03-10 13:40:44.888	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:40:45.886	>> she dropped the mic into my 

2017-03-10 13:40:49.887	hand. 

2017-03-10 13:40:49.888	Patricia Jones, creative 

2017-03-10 13:40:53.93	artistry integration program. 

2017-03-10 13:40:55.93	I want to find one that is 

2017-03-10 13:40:58.932	short. 

2017-03-10 13:40:58.932	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:41:00.975	I don't know who wrote that. 

2017-03-10 13:41:05.975	My patient with cancer was 

2017-03-10 13:41:09.976	admitted. 

2017-03-10 13:41:09.976	I went to see him. 

2017-03-10 13:41:11.974	Asleep when I got there, decided 

2017-03-10 13:41:15.026	to wait. 

2017-03-10 13:41:15.027	He woke up. 

2017-03-10 13:41:16.025	Saw me and smiled. 

2017-03-10 13:41:19.026	Years later he was back with 

2017-03-10 13:41:22.024	recurrence. 

2017-03-10 13:41:23.027	Told me how comfortable -- 

2017-03-10 13:41:28.025	comforting it was to see me that 

2017-03-10 13:41:29.026	day. 

2017-03-10 13:41:29.027	At time of fear and anxiety. 

2017-03-10 13:41:32.051	He would never forget. 

2017-03-10 13:41:34.052	Effort, minimal. 

2017-03-10 13:41:36.052	Impact, priceless. 

2017-03-10 13:41:38.051	It just won't stop. 

2017-03-10 13:41:45.098	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:41:45.099	It just won't stop. 

2017-03-10 13:41:48.097	>> Marie McGuire. 

2017-03-10 13:41:54.096	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:41:54.097	Nurse at Walter Reed national 

2017-03-10 13:42:01.099	military medical center and a 

2017-03-10 13:42:03.099	daughter of a World War II and 

2017-03-10 13:42:03.1	Korea vet. 

2017-03-10 13:42:08.1	That is a special story to me 

2017-03-10 13:42:08.101	because it reminds me of how 

2017-03-10 13:42:11.098	sometimes we impact people in 

2017-03-10 13:42:11.099	ways we don't even realize at 

2017-03-10 13:42:12.096	all, like ever, unless that 

2017-03-10 13:42:16.1	person comes back and shares it 

2017-03-10 13:42:16.101	with you. 

2017-03-10 13:42:16.102	That's my little piece I think 

2017-03-10 13:42:19.101	about all the time. 

2017-03-10 13:42:19.101	I need glasses in the opposite 

2017-03-10 13:42:24.099	direction. 

2017-03-10 13:42:25.1	The day before he was shouting,

2017-03-10 13:42:32.097	firing commenced his artillery 

2017-03-10 13:42:32.098	battery. 

2017-03-10 13:42:32.099	Today he was completing an 

2017-03-10 13:42:36.096	improvisational choreographic 

2017-03-10 13:42:37.097	exercise. 

2017-03-10 13:42:38.096	He rolled, jumps, supported and 

2017-03-10 13:42:42.1	was supported. 

2017-03-10 13:42:43.1	His body by another. 

2017-03-10 13:42:44.099	7612 miles away from the war. 

2017-03-10 13:42:49.1	Through these exercises I felt 

2017-03-10 13:42:52.1	needed by others. 

2017-03-10 13:42:52.1	Through these I discovered I 

2017-03-10 13:42:56.14	could still contribute. 

2017-03-10 13:42:56.141	>> I guess we are providing 

2017-03-10 13:43:09.142	context. 

2017-03-10 13:43:09.143	That Army veteran just got back 

2017-03-10 13:43:13.142	from his honeymoon. 

2017-03-10 13:43:14.14	He married one of my dancers. 

2017-03-10 13:43:16.14	Sorry. 

2017-03-10 13:43:19.141	I also have a limit of a cold. 

2017-03-10 13:43:23.142	I am not this basey. 

2017-03-10 13:43:25.184	RamanBaca, exit 12 dance 

2017-03-10 13:43:31.224	company. 

2017-03-10 13:43:32.223	Info graphic of the clinical 

2017-03-10 13:43:38.275	trial supply market survey that 

2017-03-10 13:43:39.274	was conducted by Marina, Sonoco 

2017-03-10 13:43:45.274	and Thermo safe last year. 

2017-03-10 13:43:46.274	Remind them if they attended 

2017-03-10 13:43:48.276	entity CTS events last year they 

2017-03-10 13:43:53.344	were probably asked to fill one 

2017-03-10 13:43:53.344	of these out. 

2017-03-10 13:43:53.345	This is the compilation of the 

2017-03-10 13:43:55.328	results. 

2017-03-10 13:43:55.329	A third point to mention is that 

2017-03-10 13:43:59.322	before lunch Bob from clinical 

2017-03-10 13:44:02.32	supplies management and Brooke 

2017-03-10 13:44:05.321	Naples will be presenting the 

2017-03-10 13:44:08.321	results and taking questions. 

2017-03-10 13:44:08.322	That I just read a 

2017-03-10 13:44:17.352	pharmaceutical ad? 

2017-03-10 13:44:18.352	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:44:18.353	Advertising is everywhere. 

2017-03-10 13:44:26.395	Should I read another. 

2017-03-10 13:44:28.393	>> seriously. 

2017-03-10 13:44:31.393	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:44:34.393	>> some comedian slipped that

2017-03-10 13:44:45.436	in. 

2017-03-10 13:44:45.437	Take two. 

2017-03-10 13:44:50.436	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:44:55.436	Those were some hard words. 

2017-03-10 13:44:58.436	I ain't that educated. 

2017-03-10 13:45:03.504	All right. 

2017-03-10 13:45:05.436	The applause stopped. 

2017-03-10 13:45:08.436	Our eyes met and instantly 

2017-03-10 13:45:11.439	became wet with tears. 

2017-03-10 13:45:11.44	This is my story, she said. 

2017-03-10 13:45:14.436	For eight years I held it in and 

2017-03-10 13:45:16.439	you just embodied it and allowed 

2017-03-10 13:45:18.436	me to release. 

2017-03-10 13:45:19.437	We embraced. 

2017-03-10 13:45:20.476	I understood. 

2017-03-10 13:45:22.477	I'm an advocate and workshops, 

2017-03-10 13:45:26.477	host veterans open mic, speed 

2017-03-10 13:45:30.477	killed my cousin. 

2017-03-10 13:45:31.478	Thank you for putting in your 

2017-03-10 13:45:33.478	name. 

2017-03-10 13:45:33.479	>> Andrea Mosley was carpetbag 

2017-03-10 13:45:40.478	theater. 

2017-03-10 13:45:40.479	Monica, you come home with me. 

2017-03-10 13:45:51.478	No. 

2017-03-10 13:45:52.477	You know I have to stay here. 

2017-03-10 13:45:54.477	I see tears in their eyes. 

2017-03-10 13:45:56.478	Let's gather in a circle, I say. 

2017-03-10 13:45:59.478	We all sing &. 

2017-03-10 13:46:02.477	-- and sign. 

2017-03-10 13:46:08.478	I say love is a flower. 

2017-03-10 13:46:11.479	Movements and words reunite them 

2017-03-10 13:46:13.479	in love. 

2017-03-10 13:46:14.478	>> Robert Hurt, Connecticut 

2017-03-10 13:46:27.475	College -- Rob Ricter,

2017-03-10 13:46:31.475	Connecticut College. 

2017-03-10 13:46:31.476	Even with my glasses. 

2017-03-10 13:46:34.475	Using the arts to heal an 

2017-03-10 13:46:39.479	advocate for social change has 

2017-03-10 13:46:41.481	been my focus for much of my 

2017-03-10 13:46:41.482	professional career. 

2017-03-10 13:46:41.483	Before coming to the state of 

2017-03-10 13:46:43.577	Connecticut office of the arts I 

2017-03-10 13:46:46.604	was executive director of -- at 

2017-03-10 13:46:49.605	the writer's block, Inc. 

2017-03-10 13:46:52.604	Whatever most memorable projects 

2017-03-10 13:46:54.603	was working with the women's 

2017-03-10 13:46:56.604	center on raising voice against 

2017-03-10 13:46:59.606	the message violence program. 

2017-03-10 13:47:08.157	I've also seen how the arts can 

2017-03-10 13:47:17.157	be an empowering influence in 

2017-03-10 13:47:17.158	young people's lives. 

2017-03-10 13:47:20.159	The arts as a healing mechanism 

2017-03-10 13:47:20.16	for those fighting through 

2017-03-10 13:47:22.157	statistical areas, and gives

2017-03-10 13:47:29.155	voices to those who have been 

2017-03-10 13:47:32.159	historically underrepresented. 

2017-03-10 13:47:32.16	In April, Connecticut office of 

2017-03-10 13:47:32.16	the arts will be hosting a NEA-

2017-03-10 13:47:35.248	sponsored roundtable on the arts 

2017-03-10 13:47:35.249	and healing. 

2017-03-10 13:47:37.26	One of the topics will be on

2017-03-10 13:47:41.25	arts and veterans Street this is 

2017-03-10 13:47:41.251	a subject I'm greatly interested 

2017-03-10 13:47:45.25	in, as my mother is a veteran of 

2017-03-10 13:47:45.251	the U.S. Air Force. 

2017-03-10 13:47:46.251	I'm hoping what I will learn 

2017-03-10 13:47:52.282	this weekend will help to inform 

2017-03-10 13:47:53.298	my agency's conversation and 

2017-03-10 13:47:56.286	greatly influence our work. 

2017-03-10 13:47:56.287	It's my neighbor. 

2017-03-10 13:48:00.322	>> And Adrian, Jefferson 

2017-03-10 13:48:06.322	Connecticut program for the

2017-03-10 13:48:10.324	arts. 

2017-03-10 13:48:10.325	All my information was in that. 

2017-03-10 13:48:17.324	Healing began the moment I 

2017-03-10 13:48:22.325	started to except all the me's I 

2017-03-10 13:48:25.323	am, without judgment or 

2017-03-10 13:48:29.323	expectation, I stay open to an 

2017-03-10 13:48:32.323	experience myself. 

2017-03-10 13:48:32.324	I'm constantly shifting. 

2017-03-10 13:48:33.325	I come out every day. 

2017-03-10 13:48:40.334	That's more than OK, because 

2017-03-10 13:48:44.368	encouraging and witnessing 

2017-03-10 13:48:44.369	change is a beautiful, joy 

2017-03-10 13:48:47.411	filled thing. 

2017-03-10 13:48:50.404	>> Office of the arts, Georgia 

2017-03-10 13:48:59.405	Tech. 

2017-03-10 13:48:59.406	I have to put the glasses on. 

2017-03-10 13:49:01.405	There were 12 active and veteran 

2017-03-10 13:49:13.426	military collaborating with

2017-03-10 13:49:16.409	songwriters during a retreat 

2017-03-10 13:49:17.412	weekend in Austin, Texas. 

2017-03-10 13:49:17.412	Each of them carrying their own 

2017-03-10 13:49:20.41	personal trauma from war. 

2017-03-10 13:49:21.41	An IED that took the life of his 

2017-03-10 13:49:28.452	fellow Marine, her sexual 

2017-03-10 13:49:28.453	assault by a fellow soldier, the 

2017-03-10 13:49:29.453	loss of a limb by another. 

2017-03-10 13:49:32.452	Their catharsis became music. 

2017-03-10 13:49:34.45	>> And Todd Stein with 

2017-03-10 13:49:49.521	Mid-America arts alliance in 

2017-03-10 13:49:49.521	Kansas City, Missouri. 

2017-03-10 13:49:50.501	After pizza, manually inspect, 

2017-03-10 13:49:57.503	describing the smell of the oil. 

2017-03-10 13:49:57.504	Fires and flesh in Kuwait. 

2017-03-10 13:50:02.503	He is deep in the process of 

2017-03-10 13:50:02.504	remembering. 

2017-03-10 13:50:02.505	John interrupts. 

2017-03-10 13:50:06.503	Stop talking about this. 

2017-03-10 13:50:06.503	Manuel pauses, embarrassed and 

2017-03-10 13:50:11.501	confused. 

2017-03-10 13:50:11.502	Should the story not be told? 

2017-03-10 13:50:12.549	Or is it that Manuel should not 

2017-03-10 13:50:15.553	tell the story? 

2017-03-10 13:50:16.549	Learning new things. 

2017-03-10 13:50:18.552	>> Victoire, choreographer, 

2017-03-10 13:50:34.578	professor at UCLA. 

2017-03-10 13:50:36.577	Dartmouth undergraduate veterans 

2017-03-10 13:50:39.577	are 23 young men, but not as 

2017-03-10 13:50:43.581	young as the other 

2017-03-10 13:50:43.581	undergraduates. 

2017-03-10 13:50:43.582	They are pretty serious. 

2017-03-10 13:50:47.575	They think before they speak. 

2017-03-10 13:50:51.576	It must be strange to have been 

2017-03-10 13:50:53.579	so far beyond the campus life 

2017-03-10 13:50:53.58	before coming here, and be drawn 

2017-03-10 13:50:56.577	to comment on the military 

2017-03-10 13:50:59.62	strategy of Agamemnon in the 

2017-03-10 13:51:01.618	Iliad. 

2017-03-10 13:51:02.619	Margaret Lawrence, Hopkins 

2017-03-10 13:51:15.657	Center at Dartmouth College in 

2017-03-10 13:51:17.658	New Hampshire. 

2017-03-10 13:51:21.659	My dad went to college courtesy 

2017-03-10 13:51:26.658	of ROTC. 

2017-03-10 13:51:27.658	He was a small-town kid who saw

2017-03-10 13:51:35.75	the Navy. 

2017-03-10 13:51:35.751	He loved to travel, the another 

2017-03-10 13:51:36.757	regimentation of Navy life. 

2017-03-10 13:51:36.758	He read looks on the deck of the 

2017-03-10 13:51:38.752	naval destroyers, -- books on 

2017-03-10 13:51:42.803	the deck of the naval destroyers

2017-03-10 13:51:45.801	, ripping the pages out and 

2017-03-10 13:51:49.801	letting them float to the sea. 

2017-03-10 13:51:51.8	>> Their blank faces are staring 

2017-03-10 13:52:04.831	back at me as we are engulfed by 

2017-03-10 13:52:06.835	the sterile white glow of the  

2017-03-10 13:52:09.827	room. 

2017-03-10 13:52:09.828	I freeze. 

2017-03-10 13:52:13.883	Just start. 

2017-03-10 13:52:13.884	Nothing. 

2017-03-10 13:52:16.87	Official U.S. Air Force song. 

2017-03-10 13:52:20.877	Mumbled singing. 

2017-03-10 13:52:23.871	Anchors away. 

2017-03-10 13:52:23.872	Movement singing. 

2017-03-10 13:52:25.872	The marines' hymn. 

2017-03-10 13:52:28.874	Cheering, singing, shouting, 

2017-03-10 13:52:31.872	clapping. 

2017-03-10 13:52:31.872	The Army goes rolling along,

2017-03-10 13:52:37.872	crying, singing, clapping, 

2017-03-10 13:52:37.873	dancing, tears. 

2017-03-10 13:52:39.871	>> Hi. 

2017-03-10 13:52:56.052	I'm in the Army National Guard 

2017-03-10 13:52:58.955	band, and that is from playing 

2017-03-10 13:53:02.005	for veterans. 

2017-03-10 13:53:05.008	I'm also here with Berklee 

2017-03-10 13:53:07.054	College of music, music therapy 

2017-03-10 13:53:07.054	department. 

2017-03-10 13:53:07.055	My father Ernest Eugene Jennings

2017-03-10 13:53:15.053	was a Senior Master Sergeant in 

2017-03-10 13:53:15.054	the U.S. Air Force. 

2017-03-10 13:53:15.055	I loved him dearly and he showed 

2017-03-10 13:53:18.048	us the world. 

2017-03-10 13:53:20.072	From Okinawa to Rapid City, 

2017-03-10 13:53:26.219	South Dakota, learn to

2017-03-10 13:53:26.219	 love, 

2017-03-10 13:53:42.188	undeserved. 

2017-03-10 13:53:42.188	This is hard to read. 

2017-03-10 13:53:45.168	Sorry. 

2017-03-10 13:53:50.248	>> Love to learn culture, 

2017-03-10 13:53:54.255	understand people. 

2017-03-10 13:53:56.251	Two celebrations at Devil's 

2017-03-10 13:54:01.32	Tower to flying black 

2017-03-10 13:54:08.302	squirrels. 

2017-03-10 13:54:08.303	I'm the executive director, 

2017-03-10 13:54:12.306	Arizona State University. 

2017-03-10 13:54:13.315	And I have worse handwriting 

2017-03-10 13:54:18.384	than you will ever have. 

2017-03-10 13:54:19.333	My parents hoped I would be a 

2017-03-10 13:54:19.333	Dr.. 

2017-03-10 13:54:20.34	-- doctor. 

2017-03-10 13:54:22.345	Didn't happen. 

2017-03-10 13:54:25.333	When I was 7, a family friend 

2017-03-10 13:54:32.334	came back from Vietnam. 

2017-03-10 13:54:33.352	Philip was staying with us to 

2017-03-10 13:54:33.353	recuperate. 

2017-03-10 13:54:33.354	My mother tried to prepare us 

2017-03-10 13:54:37.356	for his stay using life magazine 

2017-03-10 13:54:37.357	photographs. 

2017-03-10 13:54:38.332	I answered the door the day he 

2017-03-10 13:54:41.352	arrived. 

2017-03-10 13:54:41.353	He was backlit by the sun, also 

2017-03-10 13:54:45.335	the light and shadow. 

2017-03-10 13:54:45.336	A hunting rifle over his back. 

2017-03-10 13:54:46.342	I vomited on his boots. 

2017-03-10 13:54:49.346	Amico I try to slip it in the 

2017-03-10 13:54:59.337	end so I would go last, but it 

2017-03-10 13:55:00.374	loaded up. 

2017-03-10 13:55:01.392	I only knew grand for a little 

2017-03-10 13:55:06.377	while before you Gayatri he gave 

2017-03-10 13:55:09.387	me my favorite stuffed animal, 

2017-03-10 13:55:11.375	and years later I heard he 

2017-03-10 13:55:15.382	fought in World War II. 

2017-03-10 13:55:16.378	So I searched for his name in my 

2017-03-10 13:55:16.379	history books, hoping. 

2017-03-10 13:55:19.39	But his name was nowhere to be 

2017-03-10 13:55:21.386	found, nor anyone who looked 

2017-03-10 13:55:21.387	like him. 

2017-03-10 13:55:21.388	>> Hi. 

2017-03-10 13:55:31.456	I'm with HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 13:55:34.422	I was born on an Air Force base

2017-03-10 13:55:45.426	in Cleveland, Ohio. 

2017-03-10 13:55:46.426	My father's job in the military 

2017-03-10 13:55:46.427	was to get gay men in the 

2017-03-10 13:55:51.496	military to confess to their 

2017-03-10 13:55:51.496	homosexuality. 

2017-03-10 13:55:51.497	He has done pretty well with his 

2017-03-10 13:55:54.417	ultra-queer child after many 

2017-03-10 13:55:57.429	long conversations. 

2017-03-10 13:55:58.431	>> I'm still Carl from HowlRound 

2017-03-10 13:56:06.43	. 

2017-03-10 13:56:07.418	This is called "music as 

2017-03-10 13:56:13.517	healing." 

2017-03-10 13:56:14.51	In jail, a preacher came and 

2017-03-10 13:56:18.508	during a service wanted to pray 

2017-03-10 13:56:19.564	for us individually, playing a 

2017-03-10 13:56:21.569	country gospel tune. 

2017-03-10 13:56:22.556	No one responded. 

2017-03-10 13:56:25.562	I offered to play, using gospel

2017-03-10 13:56:29.562	and soul chords I began. 

2017-03-10 13:56:29.563	They opened up slowly, one by 

2017-03-10 13:56:33.574	one, and the whole atmosphere 

2017-03-10 13:56:33.574	changed as the hard-core broken 

2017-03-10 13:56:36.598	men were led to tears. 

2017-03-10 13:56:38.598	>> I'm not reading that. 

2017-03-10 13:56:48.586	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 13:56:49.592	I'm going to sit back down. 

2017-03-10 13:57:00.635	This is ridiculous. 

2017-03-10 13:57:00.636	Carlton, also known as Star. 

2017-03-10 13:57:05.782	Not in this theater, but in this 

2017-03-10 13:57:15.643	building, in the other theater. 

2017-03-10 13:57:15.644	I'm going to find it. 

2017-03-10 13:57:24.71	Trying to hide. 

2017-03-10 13:57:26.714	Overhead, as a child. 

2017-03-10 13:57:38.217	Overhead, as a child. 

2017-03-10 13:57:40.765	Jets streaked across the sky. 

2017-03-10 13:57:43.856	I learned not to mind their 

2017-03-10 13:57:46.803	shriek, which my mother calls 

2017-03-10 13:57:49.812	the sound of freedom. 

2017-03-10 13:57:50.804	Where I come from, frogs and 

2017-03-10 13:57:53.804	seals abound, but not the kind 

2017-03-10 13:57:56.814	you might think. 

2017-03-10 13:57:57.806	My brother grew up to be one. 

2017-03-10 13:58:00.811	I grew up dancing, and now help 

2017-03-10 13:58:03.848	artists to do the same. 

2017-03-10 13:58:05.836	Sarah Nash, New England 

2017-03-10 13:58:17.896	foundation for the arts. 

2017-03-10 13:58:19.885	OK. 

2017-03-10 13:58:24.88	This is called "thank you so 

2017-03-10 13:58:29.949	much, please don't use my name." 

2017-03-10 13:58:31.944	Raised deep South, MP 1, watches 

2017-03-10 13:58:39.958	as a truckload of Iraqi 

2017-03-10 13:58:39.959	prisoners pulls up. 

2017-03-10 13:58:42.957	All skinny, all standing. 

2017-03-10 13:58:43.958	She sees young boys, old men, 

2017-03-10 13:58:47.962	and soldier H. 

2017-03-10 13:58:47.962	MP 2 laughs, tossing three to 

2017-03-10 13:58:52.962	see roles in the middle of them. 

2017-03-10 13:58:52.963	Three bend, retrieve, slowly 

2017-03-10 13:58:58.032	unwrapping, take a tiny bite,. 

2017-03-10 13:59:02.003	Like this story, pass it on. 

2017-03-10 13:59:05.026	>> I was trying to watch how to 

2017-03-10 13:59:16.058	do this. 

2017-03-10 13:59:17.065	Just came up from Philly. 

2017-03-10 13:59:22.15	Came up from Philadelphia this 

2017-03-10 13:59:29.136	morning. 

2017-03-10 13:59:29.136	Daddy? 

2017-03-10 13:59:34.134	Yes? 

2017-03-10 13:59:35.145	Did you know the ocean is coming 

2017-03-10 13:59:39.137	here? 

2017-03-10 13:59:40.134	Yes. 

2017-03-10 13:59:41.137	What if when we wake up

2017-03-10 13:59:46.206	tomorrow, the water is here and 

2017-03-10 13:59:48.174	I'm like aaaaaahhh? 

2017-03-10 13:59:50.185	Can we take a boat to school? 

2017-03-10 13:59:53.184	You will be grown up already, 

2017-03-10 13:59:56.185	probably after college. 

2017-03-10 13:59:57.173	Why is there pollution? 

2017-03-10 14:00:01.186	I don't know. 

2017-03-10 14:00:02.172	Can we stop it? 

2017-03-10 14:00:05.215	I don't know. 

2017-03-10 14:00:07.253	>> I'm Vijay Matthew with 

2017-03-10 14:00:27.356	HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 14:00:28.357	Always up for a challenge, 

2017-03-10 14:00:37.366	willing to take risks. 

2017-03-10 14:00:37.366	Shamans travel to other worlds 

2017-03-10 14:00:42.435	and bring back the elixir that 

2017-03-10 14:00:46.385	heals their communities. 

2017-03-10 14:00:48.382	These warriors have traveled to 

2017-03-10 14:00:50.382	the depths of Hell, scorched 

2017-03-10 14:00:53.384	themselves, and bring back the 

2017-03-10 14:00:56.422	tonic for our burns. 

2017-03-10 14:00:58.424	>> Theater maker and artistic 

2017-03-10 14:01:11.584	director. 

2017-03-10 14:01:14.419	We always dance for our warriors

2017-03-10 14:01:21.502	. 

2017-03-10 14:01:21.503	Honors, fists and feathers 

2017-03-10 14:01:21.503	raised. 

2017-03-10 14:01:21.504	Culture warriors, fighting 

2017-03-10 14:01:24.506	warriors, day old warriors. 

2017-03-10 14:01:27.508	Sons, defend our cultures from 

2017-03-10 14:01:32.51	feminists who don't understand. 

2017-03-10 14:01:32.51	Those on the outside see only 

2017-03-10 14:01:36.507	the fighters and not left

2017-03-10 14:01:39.508	behind. 

2017-03-10 14:01:39.509	Not the elft behind trauma. 

2017-03-10 14:01:42.506	We know the Eagle soars on the 

2017-03-10 14:01:47.576	prayers of all warriors. 

2017-03-10 14:01:47.577	>> New England foundation for 

2017-03-10 14:02:02.582	the arts. 

2017-03-10 14:02:03.558	I get the last one. 

2017-03-10 14:02:07.604	Poppy was in the Air Force. 

2017-03-10 14:02:17.674	He died when I was a baby, but I 

2017-03-10 14:02:19.633	look happy and photos with him. 

2017-03-10 14:02:19.634	Grandpa was in the Navy and 

2017-03-10 14:02:22.637	grandma flew from Massachusetts 

2017-03-10 14:02:24.636	to Guam by herself with my 

2017-03-10 14:02:28.637	infant ought on her lap. 

2017-03-10 14:02:30.633	I -- I feel removed from her 

2017-03-10 14:02:32.633	stories -- their stories, but 

2017-03-10 14:02:36.633	would like to learn. 

2017-03-10 14:02:37.632	>> I'm Ramona, associate 

2017-03-10 14:02:41.632	producer of HowlRound. 

2017-03-10 14:02:42.635	Think you much. 

2017-03-10 14:02:45.633	This was so lovely. 

2017-03-10 14:02:45.633	[APPLAUSE] 

2017-03-10 14:02:46.635	>> And so there you are. 

2017-03-10 14:02:55.719	I believe we are on our way to a 

2017-03-10 14:02:55.72	break. 

2017-03-10 14:02:56.718	15 minutes, is that where we

2017-03-10 14:02:59.716	are? 

2017-03-10 14:02:59.717	>> Yeah, we finished early. 

2017-03-10 14:03:03.722	I'm so impressed with us. 

2017-03-10 14:03:04.722	This bodes well. 

2017-03-10 14:03:06.718	We are now on a break until

2017-03-10 14:03:10.718	2:30, when we begin our first 

2017-03-10 14:03:13.717	case study of healing wars. 

2017-03-10 14:03:14.717	It will be in the orchard 

2017-03-10 14:03:17.72	theater. 

2017-03-10 14:03:19.716	Literally you go out this lobby, 

2017-03-10 14:03:20.718	cross it and enter the doors and 

2017-03-10 14:03:22.718	it is that theater space. 

2017-03-10 14:03:24.738	You will be there to guide you 

2017-03-10 14:03:27.714	if you have Russians. 

2017-03-10 14:03:28.717	-- questions. 

2017-03-10 14:03:31.727	2:30. 

2017-03-10 14:03:34.758	It's 2:02 now. 

2017-03-10 14:03:35.755	. 

2017-03-10 16:02:14.858	PLEASE STAND BY 

2017-03-10 16:02:16.852	PLEASE STAND BY 

2017-03-10 16:02:17.849	PLEASE STAND BY 

2017-03-10 16:17:13.786	>> tESTING 123. 

2017-03-10 16:17:16.791	Testing. 

2017-03-10 16:17:36.867	Testing mic. 

2017-03-10 16:17:40.826	>>

2017-03-10 16:17:40.826	 We are going to get started. 

2017-03-10 16:21:24.564	I'm going to do a couple things. 

2017-03-10 16:21:25.556	I would love for the people who 

2017-03-10 16:21:28.583	came and -- and after we get the 

2017-03-10 16:21:31.594	stories -- introduce yourself 

2017-03-10 16:21:36.581	and say where you are from. 

2017-03-10 16:21:36.582	I know a couple of you are 

2017-03-10 16:21:38.581	sitting here. 

2017-03-10 16:21:39.585	Megan: my name is Megan. 

2017-03-10 16:21:45.579	I'm here from Chicago, Illinois, 

2017-03-10 16:21:46.579	representing Riverdale theater 

2017-03-10 16:21:48.58	ensemble. 

2017-03-10 16:21:49.58	>> I'm the artistic director at 

2017-03-10 16:21:52.582	Rivendell theater. 

2017-03-10 16:21:58.581	Megan and I have been building a 

2017-03-10 16:22:00.582	project about women in the 

2017-03-10 16:22:00.583	military called women at war. 

2017-03-10 16:22:01.58	>> Great, who else? 

2017-03-10 16:22:04.584	>> I'm helping the theater 

2017-03-10 16:22:11.632	celebrate its 47th anniversary 

2017-03-10 16:22:15.626	moving into the 50th, coming 

2017-03-10 16:22:15.627	into 2019. 

2017-03-10 16:22:18.624	>> Who else joined us? 

2017-03-10 16:22:20.623	Great. 

2017-03-10 16:22:21.622	>> I am a PhD student at UT 

2017-03-10 16:22:26.623	Austin, also a veteran from the

2017-03-10 16:22:30.62	U.S. Army, deployments to Iraq. 

2017-03-10 16:22:31.62	Great to be here, and thank you 

2017-03-10 16:22:35.62	all for discussing this. 

2017-03-10 16:22:36.628	>> I'm a faculty member at 

2017-03-10 16:22:40.62	University of Texas at Austin. 

2017-03-10 16:22:41.62	>> Anybody else? 

2017-03-10 16:22:43.623	>> I'm the executive director 

2017-03-10 16:22:48.627	here. 

2017-03-10 16:22:49.654	>> Good evening. 

2017-03-10 16:22:54.729	I'm Nolan, just an old soldier. 

2017-03-10 16:22:59.664	I have are with the national 

2017-03-10 16:23:03.666	mission for arts and health in 

2017-03-10 16:23:03.667	the military. 

2017-03-10 16:23:05.666	>> I'm going to do one reminder 

2017-03-10 16:23:13.707	before we start to read --

2017-03-10 16:23:17.752	start. 

2017-03-10 16:23:17.753	The inner table, we are going to 

2017-03-10 16:23:22.828	talk to each other so you don't 

2017-03-10 16:23:22.829	need to lean back or out or any 

2017-03-10 16:23:26.805	other direction but to each 

2017-03-10 16:23:26.806	other like you're at the dinner 

2017-03-10 16:23:26.807	table. 

2017-03-10 16:23:27.811	You are going to do it with a 

2017-03-10 16:23:31.858	microphone so the outer circle 

2017-03-10 16:23:32.834	can hear you and the live 

2017-03-10 16:23:32.835	streaming can hear you. 

2017-03-10 16:23:33.831	The important part of this to be 

2017-03-10 16:23:37.834	successful is the outer circle 

2017-03-10 16:23:37.835	has to actively listen. 

2017-03-10 16:23:38.835	No side conversations out here. 

2017-03-10 16:23:41.915	Ideally no phoning, that kind of 

2017-03-10 16:23:47.919	thing, as best you can. 

2017-03-10 16:23:48.918	To actively listen. 

2017-03-10 16:23:48.919	We will talk for 45 minutes he 

2017-03-10 16:23:52.92	re, then we will break up and 

2017-03-10 16:23:55.92	talk altogether for 45 minutes. 

2017-03-10 16:23:56.918	As you are listening you will 

2017-03-10 16:23:59.961	have comments thoughts, 

2017-03-10 16:24:04.053	questions or you will have a 

2017-03-10 16:24:05.06	chance to bring those into the 

2017-03-10 16:24:05.061	room after we are done talking 

2017-03-10 16:24:06.051	here. 

2017-03-10 16:24:06.051	I will have you introduce 

2017-03-10 16:24:17.055	yourself at the same time you do 

2017-03-10 16:24:20.054	the first question so we can 

2017-03-10 16:24:20.055	keep things flowing. 

2017-03-10 16:24:21.087	I'm a big sports fan. 

2017-03-10 16:24:26.088	It's a very important show in my 

2017-03-10 16:24:34.156	life, "pardon the interruption." 

2017-03-10 16:24:34.157	You get a certain timeframe to 

2017-03-10 16:24:38.127	do something then you are 

2017-03-10 16:24:38.128	interrupted. 

2017-03-10 16:24:39.127	We will run this very first 

2017-03-10 16:24:42.128	pompt like -- prompt like 

2017-03-10 16:24:47.128	"pardon the interruption." 

2017-03-10 16:24:47.129	You will talk about something 

2017-03-10 16:24:51.168	you are working on. 

2017-03-10 16:24:51.169	If there are two of you on a 

2017-03-10 16:24:52.169	team, I suppose you each get one 

2017-03-10 16:24:55.18	minute. 

2017-03-10 16:24:56.165	You will each get a minute. 

2017-03-10 16:25:00.164	I will time you and stop you at 

2017-03-10 16:25:01.166	a minute. 

2017-03-10 16:25:01.166	It is nerve-racking but

2017-03-10 16:25:04.162	exciting. 

2017-03-10 16:25:04.163	That's how we are going to go. 

2017-03-10 16:25:06.165	I have my timer. 

2017-03-10 16:25:11.241	Anybody feel ready to start with 

2017-03-10 16:25:11.242	the prompt and then if you would 

2017-03-10 16:25:14.212	say your name and talk about the 

2017-03-10 16:25:14.213	specific work you have been 

2017-03-10 16:25:16.251	doing, in 60 seconds. 

2017-03-10 16:25:17.251	The prompt us to talk about the 

2017-03-10 16:25:20.252	specific work you are sitting at 

2017-03-10 16:25:22.255	the table for, for 60 seconds. 

2017-03-10 16:25:24.257	>> Is this thing on? 

2017-03-10 16:25:32.302	Living in Portland, Maine for 

2017-03-10 16:25:37.303	the last 10 years, Marty 

2017-03-10 16:25:41.305	Potenger. 

2017-03-10 16:25:41.306	The project we have been doing 

2017-03-10 16:25:45.305	with the vets is a couple 

2017-03-10 16:25:45.306	projects. 

2017-03-10 16:25:46.309	It's called all the way home. 

2017-03-10 16:25:48.336	One is performance a story 

2017-03-10 16:25:51.337	exchanges and they happen where 

2017-03-10 16:25:53.352	the vets are rather than 

2017-03-10 16:25:55.351	bringing them, so the University 

2017-03-10 16:25:57.345	vets club, a post, a gathering, 

2017-03-10 16:26:06.425	a get together, a holiday 

2017-03-10 16:26:06.426	celebration. 

2017-03-10 16:26:06.426	The other project is comic books 

2017-03-10 16:26:09.419	writing a comic book, a personal 

2017-03-10 16:26:14.419	comic book with vets who served 

2017-03-10 16:26:15.419	in Iraq and Afghanistan who are 

2017-03-10 16:26:16.423	battling PTSD about how they are 

2017-03-10 16:26:21.493	winning that battle. 

2017-03-10 16:26:22.46	It is their life story. 

2017-03-10 16:26:23.473	It goes very young and very old. 

2017-03-10 16:26:25.505	It is something that will 

2017-03-10 16:26:28.565	ultimately be online and they 

2017-03-10 16:26:28.566	can have copies. 

2017-03-10 16:26:29.564	We want to do one with children, 

2017-03-10 16:26:32.554	some of their spouses as well. 

2017-03-10 16:26:34.554	The last one is a listening

2017-03-10 16:26:37.558	wall. 

2017-03-10 16:26:37.559	>> Great. 

2017-03-10 16:26:39.555	Thank you. 

2017-03-10 16:26:40.603	Just remember, even though you 

2017-03-10 16:26:43.603	have a micro own, we're still 

2017-03-10 16:26:45.604	talking to each other. 

2017-03-10 16:26:47.633	OK, so who's next up? 

2017-03-10 16:26:51.669	Want to go around? 

2017-03-10 16:26:54.679	Megan: I'm here from Chicago. 

2017-03-10 16:26:59.672	I do a variety of things but I 

2017-03-10 16:27:03.378	am an ensemble member with

2017-03-10 16:27:03.678	Rivendell theater ensemble. 

2017-03-10 16:27:05.681	We focus on advancing women 

2017-03-10 16:27:08.671	through the arts. 

2017-03-10 16:27:08.671	We have a particular lens around 

2017-03-10 16:27:14.715	gender and other social justice 

2017-03-10 16:27:14.716	frameworks. 

2017-03-10 16:27:15.718	We have a project called women 

2017-03-10 16:27:19.713	at war which we started several 

2017-03-10 16:27:21.71	years ago. 

2017-03-10 16:27:23.839	Is based on interviews with over 

2017-03-10 16:27:23.84	75 women who served and deployed 

2017-03-10 16:27:25.711	in recent combat and came back 

2017-03-10 16:27:27.71	to tell their stories. 

2017-03-10 16:27:27.711	We developed this through a 

2017-03-10 16:27:31.711	series of community 

2017-03-10 16:27:31.712	partnerships, story circles, 

2017-03-10 16:27:34.715	interviews, and created a 

2017-03-10 16:27:38.758	mainstay to show for our 

2017-03-10 16:27:38.759	production season a few weeks 

2017-03-10 16:27:38.76	back. 

2017-03-10 16:27:38.761	Now we have a show that tours. 

2017-03-10 16:27:41.762	Each show is accompanied by a 

2017-03-10 16:27:44.754	town hall discussion where we 

2017-03-10 16:27:47.758	have veterans and civilians 

2017-03-10 16:27:47.759	talking to each other. 

2017-03-10 16:27:48.754	It's really about raising 

2017-03-10 16:27:52.755	visibility for women veterans

2017-03-10 16:27:55.755	who are often visible in the 

2017-03-10 16:27:55.756	stories we tell, when we think 

2017-03-10 16:27:59.807	about veterans, and trying to 

2017-03-10 16:27:59.808	connect them with support 

2017-03-10 16:28:01.805	services. 

2017-03-10 16:28:02.815	>> I am a colleague of Megan's, 

2017-03-10 16:28:11.855	Tara Mallen. 

2017-03-10 16:28:13.853	I will tell you more about the 

2017-03-10 16:28:17.866	women I were project and its 

2017-03-10 16:28:17.867	genesis. 

2017-03-10 16:28:17.868	In 2009 I was asked to direct a 

2017-03-10 16:28:21.901	workshop at Depaul University. 

2017-03-10 16:28:21.902	I walked into the room and there 

2017-03-10 16:28:25.885	were these 10 beautiful young 

2017-03-10 16:28:25.886	BFA students. 

2017-03-10 16:28:29.883	They said I could devise 

2017-03-10 16:28:29.884	anything I wanted. 

2017-03-10 16:28:31.884	I brought in Helen Benedict's

2017-03-10 16:28:32.88	book "the lonely soldier,"

2017-03-10 16:28:37.882	interviews with women coming 

2017-03-10 16:28:38.882	back from Iraq and Afghanistan. 

2017-03-10 16:28:38.883	The first day they were all 

2017-03-10 16:28:41.926	talking, oh my god, so, I just 

2017-03-10 16:28:47.967	don't even understand like why, 

2017-03-10 16:28:50.095	a girl would even enlist. 

2017-03-10 16:28:50.965	I thought, wow, we have a 

2017-03-10 16:28:56.966	problem and we need to start 

2017-03-10 16:28:58.966	addressing it. 

2017-03-10 16:28:58.967	Flash forward, we end up with a 

2017-03-10 16:28:59.966	grant to the Chicago trust to 

2017-03-10 16:29:01.971	develop the program. 

2017-03-10 16:29:01.972	I was the seed -- that was the

2017-03-10 16:29:07.045	seed moment for it. 

2017-03-10 16:29:08.01	>> We are going around. 

2017-03-10 16:29:10.007	Victoria: I am Victoria and I am 

2017-03-10 16:29:14.056	based in Los Angeles. 

2017-03-10 16:29:14.057	In 2003 when we invaded Iraq, I 

2017-03-10 16:29:21.105	wanted to know what it would be 

2017-03-10 16:29:22.111	like to be a choreographer who 

2017-03-10 16:29:24.106	is a citizen artist. 

2017-03-10 16:29:30.115	I don't have veterans in my 

2017-03-10 16:29:30.116	family. 

2017-03-10 16:29:30.117	We have a very big VA Hospital 

2017-03-10 16:29:37.103	in West L.A.

2017-03-10 16:29:42.105	I went over there to the combat 

2017-03-10 16:29:42.106	rehab program. 

2017-03-10 16:29:44.109	Gradually I developed a project 

2017-03-10 16:29:50.102	that was what I called an action 

2017-03-10 16:29:51.108	conversation. 

2017-03-10 16:29:51.109	The idea was to bring a group of 

2017-03-10 16:29:55.13	veterans into a room with a 

2017-03-10 16:29:55.131	group of nonveterans. 

2017-03-10 16:29:56.13	These are graduate students, 

2017-03-10 16:30:00.171	dancer, choreographer's at UCLA

2017-03-10 16:30:04.172	where I worked, that we would 

2017-03-10 16:30:05.172	have a productive conversation 

2017-03-10 16:30:06.174	both insuring certain 

2017-03-10 16:30:08.18	experiences of our training and 

2017-03-10 16:30:08.181	physicality, but also with so 

2017-03-10 16:30:11.173	much to learn from one another. 

2017-03-10 16:30:14.179	The idea behind the action 

2017-03-10 16:30:14.179	conversation was to move, and 

2017-03-10 16:30:16.174	then talk, and then move, and 

2017-03-10 16:30:18.176	then talk. 

2017-03-10 16:30:19.18	And the moving always came from 

2017-03-10 16:30:23.261	the talking and the talking 

2017-03-10 16:30:23.262	always came from the moving. 

2017-03-10 16:30:24.306	Gradually after 15 weeks, you 

2017-03-10 16:30:28.356	made a performance. 

2017-03-10 16:30:29.351	>> Great, thank you. 

2017-03-10 16:30:31.366	>> Why am I so nervous? 

2017-03-10 16:30:34.354	We're all here. 

2017-03-10 16:30:37.353	I'm a classical belly dancer who 

2017-03-10 16:30:44.385	joined the Marine Corps and 

2017-03-10 16:30:44.386	certain Fallujah and Iraq. 

2017-03-10 16:30:45.423	Through exit 12 I have been able 

2017-03-10 16:31:00.425	to explore that any number of 

2017-03-10 16:31:01.423	ways. 

2017-03-10 16:31:01.424	We developed a repertoire work 

2017-03-10 16:31:02.426	that talks about the military 

2017-03-10 16:31:02.427	experience from all angles. 

2017-03-10 16:31:04.425	When project is to bring 4 women 

2017-03-10 16:31:08.472	together and have them go 

2017-03-10 16:31:10.51	through their experiences and 

2017-03-10 16:31:10.511	see what develops. 

2017-03-10 16:31:14.511	I want to step away from the 

2017-03-10 16:31:14.511	classical ballet period. 

2017-03-10 16:31:16.51	The second is a project that is 

2017-03-10 16:31:19.522	going to be done in the U.K. 

2017-03-10 16:31:19.522	with U.K. ex-military developing 

2017-03-10 16:31:24.51	a brand-new rite of spring based 

2017-03-10 16:31:26.51	on the military experience. 

2017-03-10 16:31:30.556	>> I am the artistic director of 

2017-03-10 16:31:36.608	the Joe good performance group. 

2017-03-10 16:31:36.609	A few years ago I got really 

2017-03-10 16:31:40.644	tired of my own voice. 

2017-03-10 16:31:42.634	I thought it would be 

2017-03-10 16:31:45.637	interesting to interview my 

2017-03-10 16:31:45.638	friends. 

2017-03-10 16:31:45.638	The one to didn't die of AIDS, 

2017-03-10 16:31:52.639	the ones who were left, about 

2017-03-10 16:31:52.64	the challenges of being who they 

2017-03-10 16:31:54.676	are and life. 

2017-03-10 16:31:55.717	And, use those words verbatim to 

2017-03-10 16:32:01.818	make a performance. 

2017-03-10 16:32:01.819	I ended up with a series of 

2017-03-10 16:32:08.811	performances. 

2017-03-10 16:32:08.811	I had all these elaborate 

2017-03-10 16:32:08.812	questions. 

2017-03-10 16:32:08.813	Ultimately I had one question, 

2017-03-10 16:32:11.806	which was, what do you do when 

2017-03-10 16:32:15.851	you fall down to get back up? 

2017-03-10 16:32:17.853	And, then morphed into the 

2017-03-10 16:32:22.932	resilience project. 

2017-03-10 16:32:22.932	A very smart curator friend of 

2017-03-10 16:32:26.854	mine asked me to do that project 

2017-03-10 16:32:27.861	with veterans, and I did. 

2017-03-10 16:32:29.855	>> Thank you. 

2017-03-10 16:32:31.886	>> I'm a playwright and I live 

2017-03-10 16:32:39.895	here in Boston. 

2017-03-10 16:32:39.896	Five years ago a good friend of 

2017-03-10 16:32:39.897	my gave me a book, a holiday 

2017-03-10 16:32:43.97	gift called "called to serve." 

2017-03-10 16:32:47.969	It was a collection about 30 

2017-03-10 16:32:50.974	interviews people who had 

2017-03-10 16:32:54.076	different responses to the 

2017-03-10 16:32:54.077	draft. 

2017-03-10 16:32:54.077	Some resistant, somewhat to 

2017-03-10 16:32:58.971	Canada. 

2017-03-10 16:32:58.972	Some were drafted and went to 

2017-03-10 16:33:04.973	Vietnam. 

2017-03-10 16:33:05.97	He rather glibly said, why don't 

2017-03-10 16:33:13.012	you make a play out of that? 

2017-03-10 16:33:15.011	I said OK, and I did. 

2017-03-10 16:33:18.013	So, the play has 4 vets in it, 3

2017-03-10 16:33:23.013	combat vets and a nurse who 

2017-03-10 16:33:28.013	served in Vietnam as a field 

2017-03-10 16:33:28.014	hospital. 

2017-03-10 16:33:29.014	And, we premiered the play here 

2017-03-10 16:33:33.013	in Boston, to get on the road 

2017-03-10 16:33:35.013	for 3 performances in 

2017-03-10 16:33:38.042	Massachusetts and Connecticut. 

2017-03-10 16:33:39.013	Then we raised the money to 

2017-03-10 16:33:42.012	film the live performance in 

2017-03-10 16:33:44.012	Boston and it's now on video to 

2017-03-10 16:33:49.012	the media education foundation, 

2017-03-10 16:33:50.014	which is a bit of documentation 

2017-03-10 16:33:54.057	to college is primarily. 

2017-03-10 16:33:56.059	-- colleges primarily. 

2017-03-10 16:33:59.109	Helen: I'm co-artistic rector of 

2017-03-10 16:34:03.107	wax one arts and media -- 

2017-03-10 16:34:05.106	director of black swan arts and 

2017-03-10 16:34:08.107	media. 

2017-03-10 16:34:08.108	We produce our own work the 

2017-03-10 16:34:12.115	travels beyond the borders of 

2017-03-10 16:34:13.109	race, religion, politics at the 

2017-03-10 16:34:14.111	city. 

2017-03-10 16:34:15.138	Lester my creative partner and I

2017-03-10 16:34:23.222	created -- we had worked for 

2017-03-10 16:34:25.223	several years collecting 

2017-03-10 16:34:25.224	interviews. 

2017-03-10 16:34:25.225	We created and produced a piece 

2017-03-10 16:34:25.226	called a performance event, 

2017-03-10 16:34:29.225	called "the prepared table, a 

2017-03-10 16:34:33.221	feast of foods, but performance, 

2017-03-10 16:34:36.222	and stories from Iraq, 

2017-03-10 16:34:38.264	Afghanistan, and tehhe FOB." 

2017-03-10 16:34:44.261	We had 100 people seated at 

2017-03-10 16:34:47.261	tables like this, 10 to a table. 

2017-03-10 16:34:50.268	We fed them a feast of 

2017-03-10 16:34:53.263	traditional foods from Iraq,

2017-03-10 16:34:56.266	Afghanistan, and a typical 

2017-03-10 16:34:58.264	military base. 

2017-03-10 16:34:59.269	Interwoven throughout the 

2017-03-10 16:35:01.267	evening were videos of actual 

2017-03-10 16:35:05.308	interviews with Iraqi and Afghan 

2017-03-10 16:35:08.354	refugees, and U.S. military 

2017-03-10 16:35:10.355	veterans who had fought in Iraq

2017-03-10 16:35:15.36	and Afghanistan. 

2017-03-10 16:35:15.361	And live performances with 

2017-03-10 16:35:16.356	hip-hop dancers, jazz musicians, 

2017-03-10 16:35:18.365	acrobats, Afghan traditional

2017-03-10 16:35:21.363	singer group. 

2017-03-10 16:35:22.356	>> Great. 

2017-03-10 16:35:24.359	>> Hi. 

2017-03-10 16:35:27.417	I am a theater maker and 

2017-03-10 16:35:31.432	artistic director. 

2017-03-10 16:35:35.431	Victoria, you reminded me that I 

2017-03-10 16:35:37.438	had been doing this work before 

2017-03-10 16:35:39.434	I started doing this work. 

2017-03-10 16:35:40.434	In 2003, I was commissioned to 

2017-03-10 16:35:45.508	write and direct a hip-hop dance 

2017-03-10 16:35:48.515	theater piece. 

2017-03-10 16:35:49.517	That's right around the time of 

2017-03-10 16:35:52.57	the invasion. 

2017-03-10 16:35:52.571	I created a piece called 

2017-03-10 16:35:56.559	"scratch and burn," which was my 

2017-03-10 16:35:59.564	response to our invasion of 

2017-03-10 16:36:00.605	Iraq. 

2017-03-10 16:36:01.624	I don't think I necessarily fall 

2017-03-10 16:36:05.618	into any ink. 

2017-03-10 16:36:05.619	I think that things unfold the 

2017-03-10 16:36:08.607	way they do. 

2017-03-10 16:36:10.609	Even sitting at this table, but 

2017-03-10 16:36:14.607	I was contracted to teach a 

2017-03-10 16:36:14.608	spoken word workshop, to Iraq 

2017-03-10 16:36:19.682	war veterans. 

2017-03-10 16:36:20.656	And we created, we ended up 

2017-03-10 16:36:24.662	creating a theater piece called

2017-03-10 16:36:29.736	conscious on the fire, which we 

2017-03-10 16:36:29.737	are currently touring. 

2017-03-10 16:36:30.66	And have been awarded a night 

2017-03-10 16:36:34.658	Grant foundation to create a new 

2017-03-10 16:36:35.684	piece. 

2017-03-10 16:36:35.684	I will let him finish and talk 

2017-03-10 16:36:40.77	about it. 

2017-03-10 16:36:40.771	>> Two for one. 

2017-03-10 16:36:42.765	I'm Anthony Torres. 

2017-03-10 16:36:44.769	I'm the executive

2017-03-10 16:36:47.765	director/co-founder/performer 

2017-03-10 16:36:49.766	with the Combat Hippies. 

2017-03-10 16:36:51.766	I'm also a social worker, and 

2017-03-10 16:36:58.769	the school I went to talk this 

2017-03-10 16:36:59.768	trauma informed curriculum -- 

2017-03-10 16:37:02.766	taught this trauma informed 

2017-03-10 16:37:06.808	curriculum. 

2017-03-10 16:37:06.809	With the theater work that Teo

2017-03-10 16:37:11.882	taught us, it gives us a venue 

2017-03-10 16:37:12.807	to share our stories,

2017-03-10 16:37:15.803	incorporate performance, and

2017-03-10 16:37:19.814	it's not only had a great impact 

2017-03-10 16:37:19.815	on us, but also others. 

2017-03-10 16:37:21.807	Our new project is to 

2017-03-10 16:37:24.907	incorporate, to record oral 

2017-03-10 16:37:26.911	histories of Iraqi refugees 

2017-03-10 16:37:30.932	along with fellow combat

2017-03-10 16:37:31.937	veterans, and try to give a more 

2017-03-10 16:37:36.933	well-rounded narrative to the 

2017-03-10 16:37:37.948	experience of war and its 

2017-03-10 16:37:41.941	impact, but also to resiliency 

2017-03-10 16:37:41.941	and healing. 

2017-03-10 16:37:42.937	>> Great. 

2017-03-10 16:37:43.959	So thank you for that, and for 

2017-03-10 16:37:47.935	indulging that 

2017-03-10 16:37:47.936	-- that. 

2017-03-10 16:37:48.977	You are exactly at 1 minute. 

2017-03-10 16:37:51.975	It's a way to get everybody's 

2017-03-10 16:37:56.977	voice in the room right from the 

2017-03-10 16:37:56.978	get-go in a short period of 

2017-03-10 16:37:57.976	time, and to hear from all of 

2017-03-10 16:38:01.987	you. 

2017-03-10 16:38:02.982	We will take a more relaxed 

2017-03-10 16:38:02.982	approach to our conversation 

2017-03-10 16:38:03.977	now. 

2017-03-10 16:38:04.981	Yes. 

2017-03-10 16:38:05.975	I find moderating panels that 

2017-03-10 16:38:11.051	sometimes not everybody even 

2017-03-10 16:38:13.019	gets to be in the conversation 

2017-03-10 16:38:15.06	and that is an important way to 

2017-03-10 16:38:15.06	start. 

2017-03-10 16:38:16.062	I'm wondering if we could just 

2017-03-10 16:38:19.069	toss around the question -- we 

2017-03-10 16:38:22.06	have put this convening

2017-03-10 16:38:23.059	together. 

2017-03-10 16:38:23.06	Clearly there is something 

2017-03-10 16:38:26.06	unique about working as artists 

2017-03-10 16:38:27.06	in communities with active 

2017-03-10 16:38:30.062	military and veterans, and just 

2017-03-10 16:38:34.06	wondering what are the key 

2017-03-10 16:38:34.061	strategies for doing that work,

2017-03-10 16:38:37.108	what makes it different for you 

2017-03-10 16:38:37.109	as artists. 

2017-03-10 16:38:37.109	You might talk a little bit 

2017-03-10 16:38:41.158	about that and you can get 

2017-03-10 16:38:42.159	deeper into your specific 

2017-03-10 16:38:42.16	projects that way. 

2017-03-10 16:38:43.159	There are three mics around. 

2017-03-10 16:38:46.158	So, we put this convening 

2017-03-10 16:38:52.163	together because clearly there 

2017-03-10 16:38:52.164	is something unique about 

2017-03-10 16:38:55.186	artists coming together with 

2017-03-10 16:38:57.186	veterans and active military,

2017-03-10 16:39:00.227	something we often think of the 

2017-03-10 16:39:02.227	arts and the military as thing 

2017-03-10 16:39:02.228	so live in different poles of 

2017-03-10 16:39:04.224	the world. 

2017-03-10 16:39:04.224	Clearly you have managed to 

2017-03-10 16:39:07.223	bridge that pole. 

2017-03-10 16:39:08.228	What are some of the key 

2017-03-10 16:39:11.227	strategies you have used to 

2017-03-10 16:39:12.238	bridge that pole, at some of the 

2017-03-10 16:39:17.227	key learnings that have come out 

2017-03-10 16:39:18.229	of your work specifically in 

2017-03-10 16:39:18.23	this area? 

2017-03-10 16:39:19.228	>> Helen. 

2017-03-10 16:39:22.233	Food. 

2017-03-10 16:39:24.226	So, if you feed people, they 

2017-03-10 16:39:29.302	will come. 

2017-03-10 16:39:30.241	Something happens when people 

2017-03-10 16:39:30.242	are sitting around a table 

2017-03-10 16:39:31.228	eating food. 

2017-03-10 16:39:32.234	Civilians, military, atheist, 

2017-03-10 16:39:36.225	Jews, Muslims, people who are 

2017-03-10 16:39:41.3	strongly for or against the war, 

2017-03-10 16:39:43.225	Iraqi refugees, Afghan refugees

2017-03-10 16:39:46.226	-- all these people live in the 

2017-03-10 16:39:47.271	Bay Area -- military personnel

2017-03-10 16:39:50.27	are seated together at a table, 

2017-03-10 16:39:50.271	sharing food. 

2017-03-10 16:39:50.272	Because it's a table, there's 

2017-03-10 16:39:55.272	protocol around that. 

2017-03-10 16:39:55.273	You introduce yourself. 

2017-03-10 16:39:55.273	You pass food. 

2017-03-10 16:39:58.272	You maybe talk to each other,

2017-03-10 16:40:01.274	which is so different than 

2017-03-10 16:40:01.275	sitting in an auditorium and 

2017-03-10 16:40:05.277	everyone is facing the stage but 

2017-03-10 16:40:05.277	you don't relate to each other. 

2017-03-10 16:40:08.32	Relating to each other was an 

2017-03-10 16:40:09.312	important part -- for some 

2017-03-10 16:40:09.312	people, the most powerful part 

2017-03-10 16:40:13.359	of the experience was who they 

2017-03-10 16:40:13.36	sat with. 

2017-03-10 16:40:13.361	They talk to each other and 

2017-03-10 16:40:23.436	exchanged contact information. 

2017-03-10 16:40:25.407	That's a really critical part 

2017-03-10 16:40:29.408	for us. 

2017-03-10 16:40:29.409	>> Can I tag on that? 

2017-03-10 16:40:32.409	>> I had written down earlier 

2017-03-10 16:40:37.485	the idea of the shared meal. 

2017-03-10 16:40:38.409	One of the things we were doing 

2017-03-10 16:40:42.438	with women out more that I 

2017-03-10 16:40:45.437	basically stole from the theater 

2017-03-10 16:40:45.438	of war folks, which was an 

2017-03-10 16:40:49.479	amazing template on how to use 

2017-03-10 16:40:50.489	theater piece as the catalyst to 

2017-03-10 16:40:53.484	the conversation was kind of 

2017-03-10 16:40:56.481	making sure, really ensuring 

2017-03-10 16:40:59.522	that the audience was 

2017-03-10 16:41:01.522	intentionally comprised of both

2017-03-10 16:41:04.522	civilians and military folks so 

2017-03-10 16:41:07.522	there could be a conversation. 

2017-03-10 16:41:08.523	Our project -- Megan, when we 

2017-03-10 16:41:15.525	developed it, we really wanted 

2017-03-10 16:41:16.529	that Townhall to be a huge part 

2017-03-10 16:41:16.53	of the experience and not just 

2017-03-10 16:41:18.523	an add-on, like the people who 

2017-03-10 16:41:22.535	stay on for the production, that 

2017-03-10 16:41:23.522	really be a piece of it. 

2017-03-10 16:41:23.523	When we were successful in 

2017-03-10 16:41:27.523	making sure he was 50/50, the 

2017-03-10 16:41:31.522	conversations that I rubbed it 

2017-03-10 16:41:34.525	were really -- erupted were 

2017-03-10 16:41:37.522	really stunning. 

2017-03-10 16:41:38.522	To harken back to what was said,

2017-03-10 16:41:44.563	it's about bringing it back 

2017-03-10 16:41:44.564	together and blurring those 

2017-03-10 16:41:47.61	lines so we can speak to each 

2017-03-10 16:41:50.659	other. 

2017-03-10 16:41:50.659	>> Comment. 

2017-03-10 16:41:56.658	I was a mental health Tech in 

2017-03-10 16:41:59.655	the Army for 4 years, psych tech 

2017-03-10 16:42:01.66	in the Miami V.A. medical center 

2017-03-10 16:42:04.656	for almost 5 years. 

2017-03-10 16:42:05.657	I hosted an open mic, I think it 

2017-03-10 16:42:08.688	was 2013. 

2017-03-10 16:42:09.688	When this project was presented,

2017-03-10 16:42:14.764	I thought with my personal love 

2017-03-10 16:42:14.765	of writing that this is an 

2017-03-10 16:42:18.693	untapped resource in the veteran 

2017-03-10 16:42:18.693	community, or at least in my 

2017-03-10 16:42:21.692	community in South Florida. 

2017-03-10 16:42:22.696	I found myself going to every 

2017-03-10 16:42:26.69	little poetry workshop and 

2017-03-10 16:42:26.691	presentation, book reading, and 

2017-03-10 16:42:31.766	when this opportunity came up to 

2017-03-10 16:42:31.767	have a writing workshop for 

2017-03-10 16:42:32.731	vets, I just felt -- using this 

2017-03-10 16:42:36.733	as a tool can complement -- 

2017-03-10 16:42:41.809	therapy and medication helps so 

2017-03-10 16:42:41.81	many people. 

2017-03-10 16:42:41.811	What else is there? 

2017-03-10 16:42:43.735	If therapy is talking, talking 

2017-03-10 16:42:48.736	his expression and there's other 

2017-03-10 16:42:49.733	ways to express yourself. 

2017-03-10 16:42:49.734	That's been a powerful tool and 

2017-03-10 16:42:53.775	we try to encourage fellow vets 

2017-03-10 16:42:54.775	to do that. 

2017-03-10 16:42:56.774	It's been a great experience so 

2017-03-10 16:42:58.773	far. 

2017-03-10 16:42:59.773	>> You're asking about 

2017-03-10 16:43:06.773	techniques. 

2017-03-10 16:43:07.779	>> Strategies, learning, things 

2017-03-10 16:43:10.776	you've done. 

2017-03-10 16:43:10.777	Food is a strategy. 

2017-03-10 16:43:16.778	Workshops. 

2017-03-10 16:43:17.775	Trying to get as much into the 

2017-03-10 16:43:20.818	table as we can here. 

2017-03-10 16:43:21.814	>> I can tell you what not to 

2017-03-10 16:43:23.821	do. 

2017-03-10 16:43:23.821	I will preface this. 

2017-03-10 16:43:26.817	In my 10 years of work I've been 

2017-03-10 16:43:28.816	in this space, being totally 

2017-03-10 16:43:34.818	honest, I felt like an imposter 

2017-03-10 16:43:35.815	in both worlds, the artistic 

2017-03-10 16:43:37.815	world and veteran world. 

2017-03-10 16:43:38.818	I thought I could make it a 

2017-03-10 16:43:42.91	little more authentic and a 

2017-03-10 16:43:46.91	little more honest and a little 

2017-03-10 16:43:46.911	more safe by making the work 

2017-03-10 16:43:50.912	autobiographical. 

2017-03-10 16:43:50.913	Most of our beginning works were 

2017-03-10 16:43:53.943	experiences that happen to me or 

2017-03-10 16:43:53.944	my unit or things we experienced 

2017-03-10 16:43:56.943	or things people close to me 

2017-03-10 16:43:58.944	experience that I had permission 

2017-03-10 16:43:59.941	to use. 

2017-03-10 16:43:59.942	When we started working with 

2017-03-10 16:44:05.028	other veterans I had not met 

2017-03-10 16:44:05.029	before, we tricked them into 

2017-03-10 16:44:06.066	working with us. 

2017-03-10 16:44:07.109	They were coming to do a writing 

2017-03-10 16:44:12.185	workshop, they thought. 

2017-03-10 16:44:13.166	They ended up dancing. 

2017-03-10 16:44:15.176	Then they ended up performing. 

2017-03-10 16:44:18.159	Looking back at 10 years and 

2017-03-10 16:44:25.173	where I'm going next, this is 

2017-03-10 16:44:29.231	the first time I felt I have 

2017-03-10 16:44:29.232	developed the tools and 

2017-03-10 16:44:29.232	techniques to approach a project

2017-03-10 16:44:38.231	the -- I don't want to say 

2017-03-10 16:44:38.232	correct -- is OK with me,

2017-03-10 16:44:43.306	approaching a project from a 

2017-03-10 16:44:44.234	place of knowledge, wisdom, with 

2017-03-10 16:44:44.235	the tools and structure to 

2017-03-10 16:44:50.278	actually do something that I can 

2017-03-10 16:44:50.278	be proud of. 

2017-03-10 16:44:51.277	I don't know if that helps. 

2017-03-10 16:44:54.275	>> I'm thinking about timeline, 

2017-03-10 16:45:00.275	and being really realistic about 

2017-03-10 16:45:03.281	the time it takes to do 

2017-03-10 16:45:03.282	something like this. 

2017-03-10 16:45:05.281	We've heard throughout the day 

2017-03-10 16:45:09.278	people talking about

2017-03-10 16:45:12.277	credibility, relationship 

2017-03-10 16:45:13.277	building. 

2017-03-10 16:45:17.318	In my experience -- we would 

2017-03-10 16:45:17.318	have really successful workshops 

2017-03-10 16:45:20.41	where you go and meet somebody. 

2017-03-10 16:45:23.415	We feel like we're just 

2017-03-10 16:45:23.416	scratching the surface. 

2017-03-10 16:45:24.409	You don't know each other yet. 

2017-03-10 16:45:28.413	Why would you tell me the truth 

2017-03-10 16:45:28.413	about your experience unless I 

2017-03-10 16:45:30.41	show up next time and I share a 

2017-03-10 16:45:33.41	little bit more about myself, 

2017-03-10 16:45:35.409	and then we have a relationship 

2017-03-10 16:45:36.411	and we are building together and 

2017-03-10 16:45:36.412	eventually our storytellers got 

2017-03-10 16:45:39.485	to decide what they wanted to 

2017-03-10 16:45:42.569	contribute and how they wanted 

2017-03-10 16:45:42.569	to tell it, but there was a 

2017-03-10 16:45:46.571	relationship there by the time 

2017-03-10 16:45:47.569	we got around to a recorder, 

2017-03-10 16:45:49.74	saying this will be in the show. 

2017-03-10 16:45:50.568	That was a big learning lesson. 

2017-03-10 16:45:54.57	We submitted it for a grant and 

2017-03-10 16:45:54.571	we were like, we are on the 

2017-03-10 16:45:56.569	grant timetable. 

2017-03-10 16:45:57.569	It just did not happen like that 

2017-03-10 16:46:01.612	and then we were like, let's 

2017-03-10 16:46:03.611	circle back and figure out. 

2017-03-10 16:46:03.612	It turned into like five years 

2017-03-10 16:46:06.609	of getting off the ground. 

2017-03-10 16:46:06.61	And it was worth it. 

2017-03-10 16:46:08.61	And I'm also thinking about -- 

2017-03-10 16:46:17.612	like I had done oral history 

2017-03-10 16:46:17.613	projects, like what I call 

2017-03-10 16:46:20.612	subcultures, before. 

2017-03-10 16:46:22.611	For me, a lot of it was really 

2017-03-10 16:46:24.616	honoring veteran culture, 

2017-03-10 16:46:28.659	military culture as a culture

2017-03-10 16:46:31.709	that I didn't know much about, 

2017-03-10 16:46:33.724	and owning my ignorance around 

2017-03-10 16:46:34.713	that and doing a lot of 

2017-03-10 16:46:34.713	education and asking questions 

2017-03-10 16:46:37.711	when I didn't know. 

2017-03-10 16:46:38.711	Just sort of entering the space 

2017-03-10 16:46:42.71	like that, and building on the 

2017-03-10 16:46:43.71	information so I could be a 

2017-03-10 16:46:46.712	different kind collaborator and

2017-03-10 16:46:47.712	participant in the room. 

2017-03-10 16:46:49.736	>> I think this work more than 

2017-03-10 16:46:52.735	any, there's the importance of 

2017-03-10 16:46:58.734	figuring out how to trust your 

2017-03-10 16:46:58.735	own thinking and make your own 

2017-03-10 16:47:01.734	mistakes, and it is the only way 

2017-03-10 16:47:06.81	you kind of get to learn what 

2017-03-10 16:47:06.811	there is to learn, you go 

2017-03-10 16:47:09.746	forward. 

2017-03-10 16:47:09.747	A couple things I thought about 

2017-03-10 16:47:12.78	while doing it, and one is we 

2017-03-10 16:47:16.862	don't have a professional mental 

2017-03-10 16:47:16.862	health person present even 

2017-03-10 16:47:19.862	though very intense things are 

2017-03-10 16:47:19.863	shared. 

2017-03-10 16:47:20.862	Making sure the reality of 

2017-03-10 16:47:24.864	mental health professionals is 

2017-03-10 16:47:24.864	clear and available in spoken 

2017-03-10 16:47:27.865	and shared, but one thing -- I 

2017-03-10 16:47:32.864	learned the hard way is to not 

2017-03-10 16:47:33.863	have story exchanges in a 

2017-03-10 16:47:35.868	traditional mental health 

2017-03-10 16:47:35.868	facility, to actually do it in 

2017-03-10 16:47:38.911	the VFW post, the retirement 

2017-03-10 16:47:43.912	home, the events. 

2017-03-10 16:47:44.909	Just because it's opening a door 

2017-03-10 16:47:50.913	that we are not actually trying 

2017-03-10 16:47:50.914	to open for that, right? 

2017-03-10 16:47:52.91	Another thing was -- the power 

2017-03-10 16:47:57.986	of listening, structuring it so 

2017-03-10 16:48:04.117	the vets were helping each 

2017-03-10 16:48:04.118	other, making that clear, and 

2017-03-10 16:48:07.113	they know that, but to make it 

2017-03-10 16:48:09.115	quite clear you are listening to 

2017-03-10 16:48:09.116	this other one's stories, you 

2017-03-10 16:48:12.17	are doing the buddy-buddy 

2017-03-10 16:48:15.117	helping thing. 

2017-03-10 16:48:16.116	And, so I think that was

2017-03-10 16:48:21.192	helpful. 

2017-03-10 16:48:21.193	And, the demographics, I had a 

2017-03-10 16:48:28.164	couple events that we had really 

2017-03-10 16:48:34.212	key people who were in support 

2017-03-10 16:48:34.213	of the project that could not 

2017-03-10 16:48:34.214	come to a workshop because we 

2017-03-10 16:48:36.211	would have too many non vets,

2017-03-10 16:48:41.212	and the people who came, 

2017-03-10 16:48:42.211	everybody had to agree to 

2017-03-10 16:48:42.212	participate as themselves. 

2017-03-10 16:48:45.288	That was awkward to set up with 

2017-03-10 16:48:49.324	the people involved. 

2017-03-10 16:48:50.324	Our Congresswoman, that kind of 

2017-03-10 16:48:52.366	thing. 

2017-03-10 16:48:53.365	We are usually not having those 

2017-03-10 16:48:56.371	conversations. 

2017-03-10 16:48:56.371	Usually something is done with 

2017-03-10 16:49:00.373	the staff. 

2017-03-10 16:49:01.368	I felt like I needed the 

2017-03-10 16:49:01.369	Congresswoman to agree to 

2017-03-10 16:49:03.365	participate fully and deeply. 

2017-03-10 16:49:04.364	The last one is just the 

2017-03-10 16:49:07.365	importance for us, balance of 

2017-03-10 16:49:09.367	attention. 

2017-03-10 16:49:09.367	For me, I mean, to not -- it was 

2017-03-10 16:49:17.467	important how deep the vets

2017-03-10 16:49:21.459	wanted to go and how little they 

2017-03-10 16:49:22.46	felt they had space to tell the 

2017-03-10 16:49:22.46	stories they were sharing. 

2017-03-10 16:49:23.461	They went there sometimes very 

2017-03-10 16:49:26.49	quickly, but the way they were 

2017-03-10 16:49:30.489	invited and the way it was set 

2017-03-10 16:49:30.489	up to be like, what is your 

2017-03-10 16:49:32.488	funniest story, what's the 

2017-03-10 16:49:34.538	longest way you had? 

2017-03-10 16:49:35.532	-- wait you had? 

2017-03-10 16:49:37.534	What is your buddy that you 

2017-03-10 16:49:40.537	still stay in touch with story, 

2017-03-10 16:49:42.533	that kind of thing, to really 

2017-03-10 16:49:45.532	make sure that that's just

2017-03-10 16:49:49.575	embedded, integrated in the 

2017-03-10 16:49:49.575	entire process. 

2017-03-10 16:49:50.574	>> Yes to everything. 

2017-03-10 16:49:56.575	I want to add another thought. 

2017-03-10 16:49:59.577	It's a little hard to praarse 

2017-03-10 16:50:01.615	quickly. 

2017-03-10 16:50:02.614	I want to talk about resistance. 

2017-03-10 16:50:06.616	Very often we think of 

2017-03-10 16:50:06.617	resistance is a door closing. 

2017-03-10 16:50:11.614	I think of resistance as an 

2017-03-10 16:50:11.615	incredibly active form of 

2017-03-10 16:50:13.616	participation, and that if you 

2017-03-10 16:50:17.617	are listening really closely,

2017-03-10 16:50:20.617	it's not a door closing. 

2017-03-10 16:50:21.616	It's actually one of the most 

2017-03-10 16:50:25.614	fervent ways of saying what's 

2017-03-10 16:50:27.616	going on. 

2017-03-10 16:50:27.617	An, another huge learning moment 

2017-03-10 16:50:31.625	for me is that -- always after 

2017-03-10 16:50:35.622	food, that says -- he starts 

2017-03-10 16:50:40.617	reminiscing or remembering the 

2017-03-10 16:50:43.617	smell of flesh burning and the 

2017-03-10 16:50:46.662	oil fires in Kuwait. 

2017-03-10 16:50:47.661	His friend says, stop it. 

2017-03-10 16:50:49.66	We do that in therapy. 

2017-03-10 16:50:52.712	We don't do this here. 

2017-03-10 16:50:53.711	I'm only listening, and I'm 

2017-03-10 16:50:55.712	quiet. 

2017-03-10 16:50:56.712	And then I say, is it that

2017-03-10 16:50:59.712	Manuel can't tell the story, or 

2017-03-10 16:51:02.715	is it that the story can't be 

2017-03-10 16:51:02.715	told? 

2017-03-10 16:51:03.722	The guy said, I don't know. 

2017-03-10 16:51:05.721	I think that always being a good 

2017-03-10 16:51:09.714	and respectful listener but also

2017-03-10 16:51:15.711	not letting a moment that seems 

2017-03-10 16:51:15.712	to be emphatic or door shutting 

2017-03-10 16:51:18.713	BA door shut. 

2017-03-10 16:51:19.712	It's a door opening to a hole 

2017-03-10 16:51:24.715	deeper understanding about 

2017-03-10 16:51:24.716	what's really going on. 

2017-03-10 16:51:25.713	>> That's great. 

2017-03-10 16:51:28.786	Anybody else want to add to 

2017-03-10 16:51:31.786	that? 

2017-03-10 16:51:31.786	>> A couple of things that I 

2017-03-10 16:51:35.827	think are coming up around the 

2017-03-10 16:51:35.827	table, one is a question of, I 

2017-03-10 16:51:38.834	wonder if in terms of building 

2017-03-10 16:51:41.941	trust, how -- is it different? 

2017-03-10 16:51:44.83	As artists, we know trust is a 

2017-03-10 16:51:48.834	key part of the creative 

2017-03-10 16:51:51.823	process. 

2017-03-10 16:51:51.823	But trust inside of -- you are 

2017-03-10 16:51:55.825	talking about doing oral history 

2017-03-10 16:52:00.905	projects. 

2017-03-10 16:52:00.906	We have all probably done some 

2017-03-10 16:52:00.906	version of that. 

2017-03-10 16:52:00.907	How does this differentiate, and 

2017-03-10 16:52:04.868	is that related to trauma, is it 

2017-03-10 16:52:08.873	related to the military being so 

2017-03-10 16:52:08.873	far away from artistic practice

2017-03-10 16:52:11.867	more generally? 

2017-03-10 16:52:11.868	How do you identify the 

2017-03-10 16:52:13.87	challenges of building trust in 

2017-03-10 16:52:18.871	military and veteran 

2017-03-10 16:52:18.871	communities? 

2017-03-10 16:52:19.88	>> If you talk about motives, 

2017-03-10 16:52:28.868	both your own, for wanting to be 

2017-03-10 16:52:32.871	involved with these stories, and 

2017-03-10 16:52:35.87	somehow reveal your own 

2017-03-10 16:52:38.872	vulnerability in that, and then 

2017-03-10 16:52:43.947	ask the person you are doing the 

2017-03-10 16:52:43.948	oral history with, what was 

2017-03-10 16:52:48.916	their motive for wanting to tell 

2017-03-10 16:52:48.916	this story? 

2017-03-10 16:52:48.917	It really gives them agency, it 

2017-03-10 16:52:52.913	gives them a sense of purpose,

2017-03-10 16:52:56.997	and they can address what they 

2017-03-10 16:52:58.038	want to address and come at it 

2017-03-10 16:52:59.044	from the angle they want to come 

2017-03-10 16:52:59.044	at it from. 

2017-03-10 16:53:00.036	I think of the larger project

2017-03-10 16:53:04.036	for me, beyond understanding 

2017-03-10 16:53:08.079	veterans and their experience, 

2017-03-10 16:53:08.079	is how can we be compassionate 

2017-03-10 16:53:11.121	with each other as human beings. 

2017-03-10 16:53:15.121	When I express that motive and 

2017-03-10 16:53:17.119	say, I think you have something 

2017-03-10 16:53:20.121	to teach me and others, because 

2017-03-10 16:53:22.119	of your experience, it gives 

2017-03-10 16:53:24.121	them a lot of power and allows 

2017-03-10 16:53:28.142	them to shape how they want to 

2017-03-10 16:53:28.142	deliver that message. 

2017-03-10 16:53:30.173	>> I think building on that 

2017-03-10 16:53:36.213	idea, it's like that question. 

2017-03-10 16:53:39.222	What do you want people to know 

2017-03-10 16:53:42.212	that they don't know? 

2017-03-10 16:53:42.213	What's not out there? 

2017-03-10 16:53:44.214	We encountered multiple times in 

2017-03-10 16:53:48.248	workshops or talking to people,

2017-03-10 16:53:51.246	if you would say what are the 

2017-03-10 16:53:52.252	stereotypes people have about 

2017-03-10 16:53:52.252	women veterans? 

2017-03-10 16:53:53.293	You open up the door to these 

2017-03-10 16:53:56.414	brainstorms and all these ideas 

2017-03-10 16:54:02.414	that circulate in our culture 

2017-03-10 16:54:02.415	about who veterans are and who 

2017-03-10 16:54:04.462	women veterans are. 

2017-03-10 16:54:05.462	The women we were working with 

2017-03-10 16:54:08.466	were very aware of that. 

2017-03-10 16:54:10.461	I often felt like acknowledging 

2017-03-10 16:54:13.464	that was out there, and there 

2017-03-10 16:54:17.463	were some things that showed up 

2017-03-10 16:54:17.464	in every one of those 

2017-03-10 16:54:17.464	conversations, but acknowledging 

2017-03-10 16:54:20.493	those misperceptions are there

2017-03-10 16:54:23.495	freed up the room and allowed us 

2017-03-10 16:54:23.495	to be in on it. 

2017-03-10 16:54:25.494	Let's even get beyond the 

2017-03-10 16:54:28.499	statistics. 

2017-03-10 16:54:28.5	Let's get to a deeper kind of

2017-03-10 16:54:31.498	truth. 

2017-03-10 16:54:31.499	That was a way in for us that 

2017-03-10 16:54:37.501	helped kind of build that sense,

2017-03-10 16:54:40.584	and maybe because some of those 

2017-03-10 16:54:41.58	narratives are so pervasive, and 

2017-03-10 16:54:45.583	there is a code of silence 

2017-03-10 16:54:45.584	around certain things, that we 

2017-03-10 16:54:47.581	have had to break through that. 

2017-03-10 16:54:50.581	I did feel that that was 

2017-03-10 16:54:51.582	different. 

2017-03-10 16:54:51.582	That did feel unique to this 

2017-03-10 16:54:53.58	project. 

2017-03-10 16:54:54.58	>> Have a couple other questions 

2017-03-10 16:55:00.581	about this question of -- as I'm 

2017-03-10 16:55:06.665	listening -- often artists think 

2017-03-10 16:55:12.665	they understand the full range 

2017-03-10 16:55:12.666	of human emotion. 

2017-03-10 16:55:14.664	We have great confidence in our 

2017-03-10 16:55:17.667	ability to tell stories that are 

2017-03-10 16:55:22.665	emotional and intense. 

2017-03-10 16:55:22.666	I was just reading about -- 

2017-03-10 16:55:26.671	thinking about watching live -- 

2017-03-10 16:55:28.665	Liz and her project and how 

2017-03-10 16:55:31.771	emotional that was on a -- was, 

2017-03-10 16:55:36.766	and how these stories are not as 

2017-03-10 16:55:36.767	familiar as other kinds of 

2017-03-10 16:55:40.764	stories straight you don't have 

2017-03-10 16:55:41.766	somebody who is a trauma person 

2017-03-10 16:55:41.766	in the room. 

2017-03-10 16:55:42.764	I wonder about that relationship 

2017-03-10 16:55:49.803	between how do you manage this 

2017-03-10 16:55:49.804	experience of trauma in your 

2017-03-10 16:55:51.836	various artistic process -- 

2017-03-10 16:55:54.832	practice. 

2017-03-10 16:55:54.833	Are there moments where you have 

2017-03-10 16:55:54.833	felt in over your head with the 

2017-03-10 16:55:56.829	work in any way. 

2017-03-10 16:56:00.833	I'm curious about that. 

2017-03-10 16:56:00.833	>> When we started getting ready 

2017-03-10 16:56:21.964	to do the initial interviews, it 

2017-03-10 16:56:25.013	was with a therapist in the room

2017-03-10 16:56:30.012	who really didn't allow the vets 

2017-03-10 16:56:31.013	to talk to us directly. 

2017-03-10 16:56:35.014	She was sort of the conduit and

2017-03-10 16:56:40.012	it felt like we were being 

2017-03-10 16:56:40.013	pitted against the vets in a 

2017-03-10 16:56:44.04	very strange, subtle, and 

2017-03-10 16:56:46.04	sinuous way. 

2017-03-10 16:56:48.04	Like she was protecting the vets 

2017-03-10 16:56:50.04	from us, which I think didn't 

2017-03-10 16:56:55.042	help them trust the we were in 

2017-03-10 16:56:55.043	it for the long haul or about 

2017-03-10 16:56:57.043	motivation, why we were doing 

2017-03-10 16:56:58.045	this. 

2017-03-10 16:57:00.042	It wasn't helping. 

2017-03-10 16:57:04.125	Once we kind of moved away from 

2017-03-10 16:57:04.125	that, and Megan led this amazing 

2017-03-10 16:57:07.125	story circle -- Tunisia is also 

2017-03-10 16:57:12.201	a counselor. 

2017-03-10 16:57:12.201	It was with 15 of us. 

2017-03-10 16:57:17.125	Megan had us tell our stories 

2017-03-10 16:57:17.126	too. 

2017-03-10 16:57:20.172	We began by telling a story as 

2017-03-10 16:57:21.17	well. 

2017-03-10 16:57:21.171	All of a sudden it was like the 

2017-03-10 16:57:24.167	dam opened. 

2017-03-10 16:57:26.172	We had been kicking around with 

2017-03-10 16:57:28.175	it for two years at that point. 

2017-03-10 16:57:31.181	I think they just needed to 

2017-03-10 16:57:35.168	trust that we were not going to 

2017-03-10 16:57:38.169	be going away. 

2017-03-10 16:57:38.17	It was interesting to me. 

2017-03-10 16:57:42.167	It was interesting to me how 

2017-03-10 16:57:46.216	once that one person was removed 

2017-03-10 16:57:48.266	from the room and we were able 

2017-03-10 16:57:51.297	to deal with each other 

2017-03-10 16:57:52.293	one-on-one and build these 

2017-03-10 16:57:53.293	individual relationships, then 

2017-03-10 16:57:58.295	they wanted to trust us with 

2017-03-10 16:58:00.296	their stories in an interesting 

2017-03-10 16:58:03.299	way. 

2017-03-10 16:58:03.3	I never quite unpacked this. 

2017-03-10 16:58:08.298	>> The people charged working in 

2017-03-10 16:58:12.381	the mental health system, but 

2017-03-10 16:58:12.382	that's a lot of us. 

2017-03-10 16:58:12.383	They are on the front line in a 

2017-03-10 16:58:19.417	very real way. 

2017-03-10 16:58:20.427	It makes sense they will throw 

2017-03-10 16:58:20.428	themselves on some metaphorical 

2017-03-10 16:58:22.432	version in order to keep the 

2017-03-10 16:58:27.425	vets from being heard or 

2017-03-10 16:58:27.426	traumatized. 

2017-03-10 16:58:34.419	This is a good topic to tap on. 

2017-03-10 16:58:38.469	>> A lot of people want to -- 

2017-03-10 16:58:42.466	there's a lot of funding and 

2017-03-10 16:58:46.528	around working in the veterans 

2017-03-10 16:58:46.529	communities. 

2017-03-10 16:58:46.529	A lot of folks are trying to 

2017-03-10 16:58:51.519	maybe in some situations -- in 

2017-03-10 16:58:53.515	Chicago I've heard there have 

2017-03-10 16:58:54.516	been people abusing that 

2017-03-10 16:58:57.525	opportunity and maybe not in it 

2017-03-10 16:58:58.515	for the long haul or have 

2017-03-10 16:59:00.546	questionable motivations. 

2017-03-10 16:59:00.547	I think it makes the veterans 

2017-03-10 16:59:03.628	community very much keeping 

2017-03-10 16:59:05.624	folks at arms length. 

2017-03-10 16:59:07.646	Chicago, oh my god. 

2017-03-10 16:59:12.628	>> There's a real difference 

2017-03-10 16:59:16.626	between being trusted with the 

2017-03-10 16:59:19.627	story you are given, but it has 

2017-03-10 16:59:23.681	another element of trust, which 

2017-03-10 16:59:24.719	is how it is presented on stage. 

2017-03-10 16:59:25.717	I made a really bad blunder. 

2017-03-10 16:59:29.714	It wasn't all me. 

2017-03-10 16:59:30.72	We have one vet who was in and 

2017-03-10 16:59:35.715	out of the project, wasn't sure 

2017-03-10 16:59:38.766	he wanted to have a story in the 

2017-03-10 16:59:38.767	play. 

2017-03-10 16:59:39.772	And, eventually said he would. 

2017-03-10 16:59:42.766	Then there was a scene in which 

2017-03-10 16:59:47.842	she has kind of a flashback. 

2017-03-10 16:59:49.771	-- to his combat experience. 

2017-03-10 16:59:55.798	How that represented physically 

2017-03-10 16:59:55.798	on the stage was the question. 

2017-03-10 16:59:59.796	The director I was working with 

2017-03-10 17:00:01.799	wanted him to get on his knees

2017-03-10 17:00:05.796	and scuttle to one side of the 

2017-03-10 17:00:05.797	stage. 

2017-03-10 17:00:07.796	I wasn't sure about it and we 

2017-03-10 17:00:09.838	went with it. 

2017-03-10 17:00:10.878	On fact, -- in fact, our vet 

2017-03-10 17:00:16.878	decided he didn't want to come 

2017-03-10 17:00:17.896	see the play. 

2017-03-10 17:00:19.884	But I got feedback that 

2017-03-10 17:00:24.884	somebody was pretty upset that 

2017-03-10 17:00:27.881	we have represented that, 

2017-03-10 17:00:27.882	knowing Al is a resilient

2017-03-10 17:00:32.879	person, who goes into schools 

2017-03-10 17:00:32.88	and talks about his vet

2017-03-10 17:00:35.967	experience even though it 

2017-03-10 17:00:35.967	traumatizes them, and this was 

2017-03-10 17:00:37.966	not a good representation of

2017-03-10 17:00:39.966	him. 

2017-03-10 17:00:39.966	When we filmed the play, we took 

2017-03-10 17:00:42.967	that scene out of the film. 

2017-03-10 17:00:44.967	It was a big lesson for me, not 

2017-03-10 17:00:50.042	only about having somebody trust 

2017-03-10 17:00:50.043	you with her story, but trust 

2017-03-10 17:00:52.016	you to represent it in a way 

2017-03-10 17:00:55.02	that feels right and authentic

2017-03-10 17:00:56.024	to them. 

2017-03-10 17:00:56.025	>> I want to speak to what you 

2017-03-10 17:01:01.1	said earlier, Tara, in reference 

2017-03-10 17:01:04.047	to telling your story. 

2017-03-10 17:01:05.049	That's one of the things that I 

2017-03-10 17:01:10.047	did. 

2017-03-10 17:01:10.048	And looking for ways how I can 

2017-03-10 17:01:13.047	relate to these veterans on a 

2017-03-10 17:01:16.086	different level, right? 

2017-03-10 17:01:18.087	And because -- the vi ebe doesn't 

2017-03-10 17:01:26.172	exist, right? 

2017-03-10 17:01:27.181	We know it exists. 

2017-03-10 17:01:30.202	There are other commonalities. 

2017-03-10 17:01:31.17	We would talk about things. 

2017-03-10 17:01:34.173	Most of us were Puerto Rican, 

2017-03-10 17:01:38.171	who grew up in the states. 

2017-03-10 17:01:41.175	That was part of our 

2017-03-10 17:01:41.176	commonality. 

2017-03-10 17:01:41.176	We talked about our fathers and 

2017-03-10 17:01:46.251	relationships with our fathers. 

2017-03-10 17:01:48.215	Through these conversations, the 

2017-03-10 17:01:50.216	structure of the piece came 

2017-03-10 17:01:51.217	about, which was -- I said, 

2017-03-10 17:01:56.291	let's do childhood military 

2017-03-10 17:02:00.267	service and post military 

2017-03-10 17:02:00.267	service. 

2017-03-10 17:02:02.266	It was these childhood 

2017-03-10 17:02:04.267	experiences there really 

2017-03-10 17:02:07.266	connected us and made us relate 

2017-03-10 17:02:10.266	to each other. 

2017-03-10 17:02:11.267	In my story is not the story of 

2017-03-10 17:02:14.302	a veteran, but it has its own 

2017-03-10 17:02:19.378	struggles and trauma. 

2017-03-10 17:02:20.298	Drama and trauma, yes. 

2017-03-10 17:02:23.299	>> Part two. 

2017-03-10 17:02:26.298	I met with Teo. 

2017-03-10 17:02:30.347	We did a writing workshop 

2017-03-10 17:02:34.424	through Miami-Dade College. 

2017-03-10 17:02:35.477	We met before the workshop, 

2017-03-10 17:02:38.467	which would be a weekly workshop 

2017-03-10 17:02:38.468	for 4 months. 

2017-03-10 17:02:39.474	Four veterans showed up, putting 

2017-03-10 17:02:45.47	myself, which ended up informing 

2017-03-10 17:02:45.47	the hippies. 

2017-03-10 17:02:48.516	I'm not familiar with this at 

2017-03-10 17:02:49.518	all, how do I approach this. 

2017-03-10 17:02:53.517	When they mention his name for 

2017-03-10 17:02:53.517	the workshop I said, Teo who? 

2017-03-10 17:02:54.515	I did my research, and when we 

2017-03-10 17:02:58.517	met I was like, your reputation 

2017-03-10 17:02:59.517	precedes itself. 

2017-03-10 17:03:02.516	I know who you are and the work 

2017-03-10 17:03:04.517	you do. 

2017-03-10 17:03:04.517	I feel you really gell well with 

2017-03-10 17:03:10.55	the group. 

2017-03-10 17:03:10.551	One of the hippies is a relative 

2017-03-10 17:03:11.559	of mine and the other two were 

2017-03-10 17:03:12.55	friends. 

2017-03-10 17:03:13.597	As we started aligning 

2017-03-10 17:03:16.59	commonalities versus

2017-03-10 17:03:17.591	differences, I really started 

2017-03-10 17:03:22.668	coming together. 

2017-03-10 17:03:22.668	One thing I loved about Teo's

2017-03-10 17:03:26.631	approach was that it was like 

2017-03-10 17:03:27.633	hands-on but hands-off at the 

2017-03-10 17:03:27.634	same time. 

2017-03-10 17:03:28.637	He was molding us and crafting,

2017-03-10 17:03:33.635	and when a story came up he 

2017-03-10 17:03:34.635	would find a commonality and 

2017-03-10 17:03:35.633	say, let's explore that more. 

2017-03-10 17:03:36.638	He would kind of guide us. 

2017-03-10 17:03:38.635	That gave us a sense of freedom 

2017-03-10 17:03:41.637	and autonomy, but also with his 

2017-03-10 17:03:44.768	experience and direction. 

2017-03-10 17:03:47.772	What I really grasped the most 

2017-03-10 17:03:52.766	was, the universality of the  

2017-03-10 17:03:57.766	emotions and feelings of the 

2017-03-10 17:04:00.816	experiences, that is what 

2017-03-10 17:04:00.817	everyone can relate to. 

2017-03-10 17:04:01.814	Pain and loss and hurt and 

2017-03-10 17:04:06.902	suffering, and also growth and

2017-03-10 17:04:09.883	resiliency, and this idea that 

2017-03-10 17:04:10.884	sharing stories brings us closer 

2017-03-10 17:04:12.884	together. 

2017-03-10 17:04:13.885	>> They call me Papa Hippie now. 

2017-03-10 17:04:17.897	>> You asked about failures or 

2017-03-10 17:04:24.89	mistakes. 

2017-03-10 17:04:24.891	I think I've so far completely 

2017-03-10 17:04:27.892	failed in actually moving things 

2017-03-10 17:04:32.967	forward on military sexual

2017-03-10 17:04:36.924	trauma, and so that's -- 

2017-03-10 17:04:42.001	primarily with women. 

2017-03-10 17:04:42.002	They will try a story and then I 

2017-03-10 17:04:45.928	will never see them again. 

2017-03-10 17:04:46.927	That was my story, thank you so 

2017-03-10 17:04:50.928	much, please don't use my name. 

2017-03-10 17:04:51.934	It's such a key issue, and I 

2017-03-10 17:04:58.021	think I have a picture of why 

2017-03-10 17:04:58.022	that doesn't get to the page or 

2017-03-10 17:05:02.019	the stage at this point. 

2017-03-10 17:05:03.018	I'm wondering if anybody here 

2017-03-10 17:05:05.016	has thoughts about this here. 

2017-03-10 17:05:08.022	>> I was sitting here thinking 

2017-03-10 17:05:11.068	about that. 

2017-03-10 17:05:12.071	Part of that -- that grant 

2017-03-10 17:05:17.067	timeline earlier, we did a 

2017-03-10 17:05:19.071	workshop, public performance. 

2017-03-10 17:05:24.073	We had a university collaborator 

2017-03-10 17:05:24.073	in Chicago at USC. 

2017-03-10 17:05:28.095	We did a public workshop of what 

2017-03-10 17:05:30.104	we had so far. 

2017-03-10 17:05:31.097	They were scratching the surface 

2017-03-10 17:05:35.1	story straight we had standing 

2017-03-10 17:05:35.101	room only crowd. 

2017-03-10 17:05:39.134	160 people showed up. 

2017-03-10 17:05:40.135	It was fabulous and horrifying. 

2017-03-10 17:05:45.216	Veteran civilians, and just -- 

2017-03-10 17:05:51.22	really fantastic. 

2017-03-10 17:05:52.22	It was a huge artistic risk 

2017-03-10 17:05:54.226	because we were so aware of what 

2017-03-10 17:05:56.235	it wasn't. 

2017-03-10 17:05:59.27	But what was great about taking 

2017-03-10 17:06:04.345	that risk is there were a lot of 

2017-03-10 17:06:04.346	veterans there who watched it 

2017-03-10 17:06:09.317	and saw with us what wasn't 

2017-03-10 17:06:10.319	there. 

2017-03-10 17:06:10.319	And then because we did the town 

2017-03-10 17:06:12.321	hall, a lot of women came to us 

2017-03-10 17:06:16.325	after that and said, dismissing. 

2017-03-10 17:06:18.348	And that was like the greatest 

2017-03-10 17:06:22.346	failure that turned into like 

2017-03-10 17:06:22.347	the greatest gift. 

2017-03-10 17:06:25.342	Because we took the risk to put 

2017-03-10 17:06:26.341	it out of there before it was 

2017-03-10 17:06:27.343	done, we invited that community 

2017-03-10 17:06:30.343	and like all good audiences, to 

2017-03-10 17:06:33.342	come into it and say, here's 

2017-03-10 17:06:35.342	what I see, here's what I want 

2017-03-10 17:06:35.343	to see. 

2017-03-10 17:06:36.344	And after that, stories about 

2017-03-10 17:06:40.347	military sexual assault and 

2017-03-10 17:06:43.404	sexual trauma started coming to 

2017-03-10 17:06:43.404	us with permission to use it, 

2017-03-10 17:06:47.343	and nuanced stories. 

2017-03-10 17:06:50.388	Not just like this happened, but 

2017-03-10 17:06:51.388	also women spoke to us about how 

2017-03-10 17:06:54.473	they handled it, how they looked 

2017-03-10 17:06:56.467	out for each other. 

2017-03-10 17:06:57.467	Accommodations that were made or 

2017-03-10 17:07:01.474	decisions that got made or 

2017-03-10 17:07:01.475	things that got moved forward or 

2017-03-10 17:07:04.467	of the ranks or didn't, and why. 

2017-03-10 17:07:05.468	And we were able to represent 

2017-03-10 17:07:05.469	that. 

2017-03-10 17:07:08.467	It became a significant part of 

2017-03-10 17:07:09.469	the show, and something that 

2017-03-10 17:07:14.546	always -- that we would be 

2017-03-10 17:07:14.546	unpacking and those town halls. 

2017-03-10 17:07:17.555	It is still in the news, but you 

2017-03-10 17:07:18.521	remember a few years back --

2017-03-10 17:07:22.518	there was a lot of legal 

2017-03-10 17:07:23.53	policies going on, and that is 

2017-03-10 17:07:24.521	when our show hit. 

2017-03-10 17:07:25.528	It felt like a really 

2017-03-10 17:07:30.604	interesting confluence of the 

2017-03-10 17:07:30.605	times, and then that workshop 

2017-03-10 17:07:34.572	moments. 

2017-03-10 17:07:35.569	>> To hearken back to what are 

2017-03-10 17:07:42.575	some of the strategies, when we 

2017-03-10 17:07:42.576	began it, particularly -- I'm a 

2017-03-10 17:07:46.597	civilian, right, and I don't 

2017-03-10 17:07:48.597	have many close relatives or 

2017-03-10 17:07:48.597	friends who have served. 

2017-03-10 17:07:52.597	I was really on the outside of 

2017-03-10 17:07:52.598	the military culture in a huge 

2017-03-10 17:07:54.596	way and about as clueless. 

2017-03-10 17:07:58.597	My understanding of the military

2017-03-10 17:08:01.64	and military culture is that you 

2017-03-10 17:08:01.641	are all the same. 

2017-03-10 17:08:04.722	Probably you all joined for the 

2017-03-10 17:08:08.721	same reasons. 

2017-03-10 17:08:08.722	Megan spent a lot of time and 

2017-03-10 17:08:08.723	energy talking about where 

2017-03-10 17:08:11.727	motivation lies, like lighted 

2017-03-10 17:08:11.728	you join. 

2017-03-10 17:08:15.722	But understanding the subtleties 

2017-03-10 17:08:16.727	and differences and the unique 

2017-03-10 17:08:17.721	experiences of every single 

2017-03-10 17:08:20.727	person we talked to, and so 

2017-03-10 17:08:23.781	every time the show would begin 

2017-03-10 17:08:24.77	or the stories would begin to 

2017-03-10 17:08:24.771	tilt one way, making sure we had 

2017-03-10 17:08:28.779	the counterpoint story. 

2017-03-10 17:08:28.78	For someone who would tell us 

2017-03-10 17:08:34.771	about their experience that was 

2017-03-10 17:08:36.771	really challenging and hard and 

2017-03-10 17:08:36.771	they hated what the military did 

2017-03-10 17:08:36.772	to them, the next day I 

2017-03-10 17:08:39.827	interviewed a major who talked 

2017-03-10 17:08:39.828	about how -- what a good thing 

2017-03-10 17:08:46.821	her service was and how she 

2017-03-10 17:08:46.822	would go back in a heartbeat 

2017-03-10 17:08:48.819	trade one minute they would be 

2017-03-10 17:08:48.819	saying how it was amazing and 

2017-03-10 17:08:51.828	phenomenal and the next minute 

2017-03-10 17:08:51.828	there would be trade -- tears

2017-03-10 17:08:55.849	going down their faces, they 

2017-03-10 17:08:57.846	would talk about coming home and 

2017-03-10 17:08:57.847	looking for the commonality and 

2017-03-10 17:08:59.853	people's experiences, good, bad 

2017-03-10 17:09:05.942	grades there are moments they 

2017-03-10 17:09:06.865	all started to kind of land on 

2017-03-10 17:09:06.865	the same point as we were 

2017-03-10 17:09:08.853	listening. 

2017-03-10 17:09:08.854	I don't know if that's helpful. 

2017-03-10 17:09:12.893	That just popped up for me. 

2017-03-10 17:09:17.969	I keep saying to Megan, we have 

2017-03-10 17:09:23.932	to figure out a way to get that. 

2017-03-10 17:09:25.933	Luckily the production is pretty 

2017-03-10 17:09:25.933	fluid. 

2017-03-10 17:09:26.932	I'm constantly asking to

2017-03-10 17:09:29.932	rewrite. 

2017-03-10 17:09:29.933	The difference between the 

2017-03-10 17:09:32.974	branches and how somebody from 

2017-03-10 17:09:32.975	the air oars -- force and speaks 

2017-03-10 17:09:39.02	about how somebody is a Marine. 

2017-03-10 17:09:39.021	To the civilian world, that is 

2017-03-10 17:09:42.04	just -- 

2017-03-10 17:09:42.041	>> Hierarchy. 

2017-03-10 17:09:44.018	>> Yeah. 

2017-03-10 17:09:46.018	>> I've heard this thing about 

2017-03-10 17:09:49.069	commonality coming up and 

2017-03-10 17:09:52.07	commonality in our trauma. 

2017-03-10 17:09:52.07	I think that it's really key and 

2017-03-10 17:10:00.068	what to me is the largest 

2017-03-10 17:10:00.069	question, how do we deal with 

2017-03-10 17:10:02.07	these wars that have happened. 

2017-03-10 17:10:05.069	A great wound has opened up our 

2017-03-10 17:10:08.097	nation, and I think it's our job 

2017-03-10 17:10:13.101	as artists, storytellers to try 

2017-03-10 17:10:13.102	to heal it or at least shed 

2017-03-10 17:10:17.102	light on it, ancient shamans

2017-03-10 17:10:20.102	took on the trauma, the pain in 

2017-03-10 17:10:22.099	order that the community could 

2017-03-10 17:10:22.1	transcend it. 

2017-03-10 17:10:23.102	I'm saying how important I think 

2017-03-10 17:10:27.143	this work we are all doing is, 

2017-03-10 17:10:32.142	and the trauma is the thing that 

2017-03-10 17:10:33.143	unites us. 

2017-03-10 17:10:33.144	The three communities I was 

2017-03-10 17:10:33.144	interviewing who, none of them 

2017-03-10 17:10:36.159	would talk to each other, of 

2017-03-10 17:10:37.141	course, and all wondered why we 

2017-03-10 17:10:41.143	were interviewing the other 

2017-03-10 17:10:41.143	communities. 

2017-03-10 17:10:42.143	The young American soldier who 

2017-03-10 17:10:48.187	suffers moral injury from 

2017-03-10 17:10:52.231	pointing his gun over and over 

2017-03-10 17:10:52.232	again at an Iraqi family, the 

2017-03-10 17:10:56.227	Iraqi mother who tries to find a 

2017-03-10 17:11:01.225	doctor to give her a C-section

2017-03-10 17:11:05.226	at the moment that Baghdad is in 

2017-03-10 17:11:07.226	flames and bombs are going and 

2017-03-10 17:11:07.227	she can't find a doctor. 

2017-03-10 17:11:10.226	The American who sees his

2017-03-10 17:11:16.318	friend, or she sees her friend 

2017-03-10 17:11:17.316	blown up by an IED that is 

2017-03-10 17:11:19.319	planted in wounded dogs by 

2017-03-10 17:11:21.401	insurgents. 

2017-03-10 17:11:23.324	All of those stories, very 

2017-03-10 17:11:27.317	specifically -- they are all 

2017-03-10 17:11:27.317	suffering trauma. 

2017-03-10 17:11:29.316	I just feel really strongly that 

2017-03-10 17:11:32.353	if we don't look at the larger 

2017-03-10 17:11:35.393	picture of trauma in these wars, 

2017-03-10 17:11:40.394	we will never come to terms with 

2017-03-10 17:11:40.394	them. 

2017-03-10 17:11:40.395	World War II, we are still 

2017-03-10 17:11:45.394	trying to figure that out. 

2017-03-10 17:11:45.394	We can't only talk to vets about 

2017-03-10 17:11:49.394	it. 

2017-03-10 17:11:49.394	We haven't even begun to deal 

2017-03-10 17:11:49.395	with Vietnam. 

2017-03-10 17:11:50.393	These wars demand that we expand 

2017-03-10 17:12:01.479	our context. 

2017-03-10 17:12:01.479	>> Thank you for that prompt. 

2017-03-10 17:12:04.482	Something has been on my mind 

2017-03-10 17:12:08.477	since I got invited to this 

2017-03-10 17:12:08.478	gathering. 

2017-03-10 17:12:08.478	Some of these logic questions, 

2017-03-10 17:12:12.479	going beyond your larger

2017-03-10 17:12:16.478	question, which have to do with 

2017-03-10 17:12:16.478	our society in general. 

2017-03-10 17:12:16.479	I think we have a culture of 

2017-03-10 17:12:20.477	violence in this country, which 

2017-03-10 17:12:22.569	is profound, and not adequately 

2017-03-10 17:12:25.602	discussed. 

2017-03-10 17:12:26.601	I just noted down some questions

2017-03-10 17:12:33.61	that I personally have been 

2017-03-10 17:12:33.611	thinking about and maybe others 

2017-03-10 17:12:34.601	here will think about too. 

2017-03-10 17:12:36.603	Discussions about artistic 

2017-03-10 17:12:41.678	representation. 

2017-03-10 17:12:42.601	I wrote them down here. 

2017-03-10 17:12:44.645	Why does our country spend more 

2017-03-10 17:12:47.728	on its military in the next 7 

2017-03-10 17:12:50.727	countries combined? 

2017-03-10 17:12:51.728	Why are we permanently at war? 

2017-03-10 17:12:53.728	Why are our police departments 

2017-03-10 17:12:59.728	as we saw at Ferguson and 

2017-03-10 17:12:59.729	standing rock increasingly 

2017-03-10 17:13:00.727	militarized? 

2017-03-10 17:13:01.728	Why are nearly 230,000 veterans 

2017-03-10 17:13:10.773	transitioning out of military 

2017-03-10 17:13:10.774	service every month? 

2017-03-10 17:13:10.774	Why does President Trump propose 

2017-03-10 17:13:14.78	to boost the military budget by

2017-03-10 17:13:18.82	54 billion dollars and cut 

2017-03-10 17:13:18.82	domestic programs by the same 

2017-03-10 17:13:18.821	amount, including the endowment 

2017-03-10 17:13:21.82	for the arts? 

2017-03-10 17:13:21.821	Why do I great many Americans 

2017-03-10 17:13:24.822	feel comfortable with all of 

2017-03-10 17:13:24.822	this? 

2017-03-10 17:13:25.82	I don't think these are just 

2017-03-10 17:13:28.816	political questions. 

2017-03-10 17:13:30.825	Why do a great many Americans 

2017-03-10 17:13:36.854	feel comfortable with all of 

2017-03-10 17:13:36.855	this? 

2017-03-10 17:13:37.854	These are not just political and 

2017-03-10 17:13:41.913	social questions. 

2017-03-10 17:13:42.85	They are moral questions. 

2017-03-10 17:13:44.85	As artists, we went to 

2017-03-10 17:13:50.851	investigate and interrogate 

2017-03-10 17:13:50.851	moral questions. 

2017-03-10 17:13:50.852	I don't know what to do with it, 

2017-03-10 17:13:54.868	but I needed to say it. 

2017-03-10 17:13:55.892	>> Final word. 

2017-03-10 17:13:58.895	There are two final words, then 

2017-03-10 17:14:01.896	we will break out. 

2017-03-10 17:14:02.898	>> A couple of things I've been 

2017-03-10 17:14:06.899	thinking about, bouncing off 

2017-03-10 17:14:06.9	both of you. 

2017-03-10 17:14:08.895	When I started this work, I was 

2017-03-10 17:14:12.896	looking at an impact on the 

2017-03-10 17:14:14.94	audience from a couple of 

2017-03-10 17:14:15.958	perspectives. 

2017-03-10 17:14:15.972	I wanted to go into theater and 

2017-03-10 17:14:18.064	I wanted to show the audience

2017-03-10 17:14:20.938	award they were -- a war they 

2017-03-10 17:14:20.938	were not seeing on the 

2017-03-10 17:14:20.939	televisions. 

2017-03-10 17:14:22.937	I created all this work about 

2017-03-10 17:14:38.938	trying to harness that emotion,

2017-03-10 17:14:42.979	and use that emotion for good. 

2017-03-10 17:14:43.98	Question mark. 

2017-03-10 17:14:45.983	And then, I experienced two

2017-03-10 17:14:50.98	things which made me transition 

2017-03-10 17:14:52.983	a little bit. 

2017-03-10 17:14:52.983	One of them was, the feeling of 

2017-03-10 17:14:56.98	the audience after the show was 

2017-03-10 17:15:00.053	just so heavy. 

2017-03-10 17:15:01.995	So many people were asking, so 

2017-03-10 17:15:06.026	what's next? 

2017-03-10 17:15:08.031	And, it forced me to look at 

2017-03-10 17:15:13.025	what's next and create what's 

2017-03-10 17:15:16.025	next and start looking at that 

2017-03-10 17:15:18.024	vision of hope for the future. 

2017-03-10 17:15:20.024	One of the words we now perform 

2017-03-10 17:15:23.023	is a work created with Iraqi 

2017-03-10 17:15:24.027	youth the talk about hope in 

2017-03-10 17:15:27.025	past combat. 

2017-03-10 17:15:30.074	Going further, where does that 

2017-03-10 17:15:32.207	conversation go now, bouncing 

2017-03-10 17:15:35.072	off your question? 

2017-03-10 17:15:36.13	We have encompassed this feeling 

2017-03-10 17:15:39.12	of showing this war and showing 

2017-03-10 17:15:41.12	this combat, and then coming out 

2017-03-10 17:15:43.121	of this, let's all grow flowers 

2017-03-10 17:15:46.121	and look at the sun all day and 

2017-03-10 17:15:49.123	feel it on our skin. 

2017-03-10 17:15:53.123	And then the reality of life, 

2017-03-10 17:15:53.124	how do we connect the two of 

2017-03-10 17:15:53.124	those. 

2017-03-10 17:15:54.149	This is more of a question, 

2017-03-10 17:15:57.153	something I'm investigating, how 

2017-03-10 17:16:01.153	do we find -- I will still lives 

2017-03-10 17:16:01.154	for a second. 

2017-03-10 17:16:02.152	-- steal Liz for a second. 

2017-03-10 17:16:08.16	How do we take those things and 

2017-03-10 17:16:08.16	turn them sideways? 

2017-03-10 17:16:09.146	>> I think the questions that 

2017-03-10 17:16:14.222	have recently been asked, and 

2017-03-10 17:16:16.146	issues are mine and all of ours 

2017-03-10 17:16:19.188	as humans. 

2017-03-10 17:16:20.19	I don't bring them into my work 

2017-03-10 17:16:23.193	vets at all. 

2017-03-10 17:16:23.193	It's like, what is the objective 

2017-03-10 17:16:32.196	I have? 

2017-03-10 17:16:32.197	Why am I doing this work? 

2017-03-10 17:16:35.19	Are these questions I'm asking 

2017-03-10 17:16:37.191	myself? 

2017-03-10 17:16:38.192	Those are questions -- you said 

2017-03-10 17:16:42.236	a good point. 

2017-03-10 17:16:43.233	So, I don't. 

2017-03-10 17:16:45.242	What I do is work really hard to 

2017-03-10 17:16:50.238	try to get vets there who are 

2017-03-10 17:16:56.235	asking themselves different 

2017-03-10 17:16:58.236	questions. 

2017-03-10 17:16:58.237	Whether that is somebody from

2017-03-10 17:17:03.236	veterans who decided to be a 

2017-03-10 17:17:03.237	part of veterans for peace,

2017-03-10 17:17:07.274	whether that's -- every vet is 

2017-03-10 17:17:12.275	different. 

2017-03-10 17:17:12.276	And so, as in any piece to try 

2017-03-10 17:17:18.275	to get as diverse a particular 

2017-03-10 17:17:18.276	group together, and then how can 

2017-03-10 17:17:21.281	I get out of the way and make 

2017-03-10 17:17:24.278	way at the same time. 

2017-03-10 17:17:27.32	>> Great. 

2017-03-10 17:17:28.322	Thank you all. 

2017-03-10 17:17:30.321	Great conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:17:32.321	I really appreciate the honesty 

2017-03-10 17:17:37.322	and integrity in the 

2017-03-10 17:17:37.323	conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:17:38.324	You'll go back to the outer 

2017-03-10 17:17:41.371	circle and seats, and we will 

2017-03-10 17:17:44.377	have an open conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:17:45.37	Thank you. 

2017-03-10 17:17:46.372	[APPLAUSE] 

2017-03-10 17:17:46.372	Great. 

2017-03-10 17:18:08.402	So, we've got some microphones. 

2017-03-10 17:18:12.402	And, people to pass them around 

2017-03-10 17:18:17.477	to. 

2017-03-10 17:18:18.446	So, what are the things you

2017-03-10 17:18:24.446	active listeners in the outer 

2017-03-10 17:18:24.447	circle, quetsions,comments, 

2017-03-10 17:18:30.449	thoughts you are having from 

2017-03-10 17:18:30.45	that conversation way back

2017-03-10 17:18:31.449	there? 

2017-03-10 17:18:31.449	If you would say your name at  

2017-03-10 17:18:36.442	the top, that would be great. 

2017-03-10 17:18:38.484	>> Jeremy, foundation for Art 

2017-03-10 17:18:41.482	and healing. 

2017-03-10 17:18:41.482	What I think is an important 

2017-03-10 17:18:46.482	dialogue that was happening in 

2017-03-10 17:18:46.483	the inner circle -- maybe I will 

2017-03-10 17:18:51.558	make it personal, the people 

2017-03-10 17:18:52.484	around the table -- so admiring 

2017-03-10 17:18:55.484	of the work of people around 

2017-03-10 17:18:58.487	cable. 

2017-03-10 17:18:58.487	I want to thank them for that. 

2017-03-10 17:18:58.488	I'm a medical practitioner, 

2017-03-10 17:19:02.574	public health practitioner. 

2017-03-10 17:19:02.575	And I'm also an artist, a poet. 

2017-03-10 17:19:06.576	When you think about the work 

2017-03-10 17:19:10.624	and his people were describing 

2017-03-10 17:19:10.624	it around the table -- I think 

2017-03-10 17:19:16.625	it's incontrovertible at this 

2017-03-10 17:19:17.624	point that creative arts 

2017-03-10 17:19:17.625	expression improves health and 

2017-03-10 17:19:21.625	well-being for individuals and 

2017-03-10 17:19:22.655	community. 

2017-03-10 17:19:22.656	Lots of ways it does that. 

2017-03-10 17:19:22.656	Growing evidence base to support 

2017-03-10 17:19:25.699	it. 

2017-03-10 17:19:25.699	Then there's also an important 

2017-03-10 17:19:28.736	question, from the aesthetic 

2017-03-10 17:19:31.735	point of view, is the art being 

2017-03-10 17:19:33.741	produced important art, is it 

2017-03-10 17:19:35.779	good art? 

2017-03-10 17:19:36.781	ABS what Roman said about taking 

2017-03-10 17:19:39.777	-- maybe it's what was said,

2017-03-10 17:19:47.826	having them be in dialogue with 

2017-03-10 17:19:48.827	each other. 

2017-03-10 17:19:48.827	There's no question in my mind 

2017-03-10 17:19:49.828	that important and good art is 

2017-03-10 17:19:52.825	being produced in this setting 

2017-03-10 17:19:53.826	and it is serving a public 

2017-03-10 17:19:53.826	health and mental requirement. 

2017-03-10 17:19:55.823	I'm just wondering about the 

2017-03-10 17:19:58.826	thoughts of other people, how we 

2017-03-10 17:20:01.872	continue having those 

2017-03-10 17:20:01.873	perspectives being dialogue,

2017-03-10 17:20:04.875	because I think they are equally 

2017-03-10 17:20:05.872	important. 

2017-03-10 17:20:06.873	>> Sam. 

2017-03-10 17:20:18.907	Don't have a direct response to 

2017-03-10 17:20:20.905	that treat them wanted to make a 

2017-03-10 17:20:22.907	few quick notes, particularly on 

2017-03-10 17:20:26.946	key strategies. 

2017-03-10 17:20:26.946	We offer arts classes and 

2017-03-10 17:20:30.947	workshops for veterans and their 

2017-03-10 17:20:30.947	families as a means to help them 

2017-03-10 17:20:35.952	reintegrate into their 

2017-03-10 17:20:35.952	communities. 

2017-03-10 17:20:35.953	We do standup comedy, improv, 

2017-03-10 17:20:37.948	creative comedy, story writing. 

2017-03-10 17:20:41.985	I wanted to hone in on the key 

2017-03-10 17:20:41.986	strategies perspective. 

2017-03-10 17:20:43.987	It was very programmatic in the 

2017-03-10 17:20:46.988	conversation, but maybe not as 

2017-03-10 17:20:48.987	much tactical, and wanted to say 

2017-03-10 17:20:51.988	a few tactical things that have 

2017-03-10 17:20:54.018	been helpful for us. 

2017-03-10 17:20:54.989	Coordination is something we 

2017-03-10 17:20:57.993	don't think about great how do 

2017-03-10 17:21:00.055	you think about engaging the 

2017-03-10 17:21:00.055	veteran in military community? 

2017-03-10 17:21:02.985	For us, what has been helpful is 

2017-03-10 17:21:07.985	forming relationships with the 

2017-03-10 17:21:09.985	existing network of military and 

2017-03-10 17:21:09.985	veterans service organizations

2017-03-10 17:21:12.984	in those communities straight 

2017-03-10 17:21:14.986	having those lunchtime 

2017-03-10 17:21:15.991	conversations with the leaders 

2017-03-10 17:21:16.995	of those organizations so they 

2017-03-10 17:21:16.995	build that trust with you so 

2017-03-10 17:21:19.992	they refer members to their 

2017-03-10 17:21:21.03	program -- to your program. 

2017-03-10 17:21:23.03	Working with colleges, their

2017-03-10 17:21:32.046	coordinators, student veterans 

2017-03-10 17:21:32.046	organizations, those are all 

2017-03-10 17:21:35.034	really important. 

2017-03-10 17:21:35.034	For our classes we typically 

2017-03-10 17:21:38.035	have 10 to 15 people in each 

2017-03-10 17:21:41.031	class. 

2017-03-10 17:21:41.031	We get 30 to 45 applications for 

2017-03-10 17:21:45.073	those classes. 

2017-03-10 17:21:45.074	Demand is exceeding capacity 

2017-03-10 17:21:48.125	when you use those channels. 

2017-03-10 17:21:50.123	Another thing that didn't come 

2017-03-10 17:21:52.124	up that maybe is implied is

2017-03-10 17:21:54.124	training, what are you doing to 

2017-03-10 17:21:57.125	ensure the practitioners are

2017-03-10 17:21:58.122	equipped to work with that 

2017-03-10 17:22:00.124	population? 

2017-03-10 17:22:01.127	Trauma came up as one. 

2017-03-10 17:22:03.157	Also, more broadly than military 

2017-03-10 17:22:09.16	cultural competency. 

2017-03-10 17:22:10.159	There are a lot of accessible 

2017-03-10 17:22:10.16	trainings out there. 

2017-03-10 17:22:12.166	It's free online trainings on 

2017-03-10 17:22:15.156	military and veteran competency 

2017-03-10 17:22:19.159	that I think if you feel you may 

2017-03-10 17:22:19.159	have a knowledge gap, our 

2017-03-10 17:22:23.157	professionals have found that 

2017-03-10 17:22:23.158	really useful. 

2017-03-10 17:22:27.157	The final thing I will note on 

2017-03-10 17:22:27.158	programs is something that 

2017-03-10 17:22:29.157	didn't come up, but 

2017-03-10 17:22:30.197	accountability. 

2017-03-10 17:22:30.198	Accountability for the 

2017-03-10 17:22:34.199	instructors, but also for the 

2017-03-10 17:22:36.199	people coming to the programs. 

2017-03-10 17:22:37.2	There's an inclination sometimes 

2017-03-10 17:22:42.198	to treat veterans differently. 

2017-03-10 17:22:44.198	I don't think that should be the 

2017-03-10 17:22:46.199	case. 

2017-03-10 17:22:47.208	I think these are people who 

2017-03-10 17:22:52.203	have contributed at a very high 

2017-03-10 17:22:52.204	level when they were in the 

2017-03-10 17:22:52.204	service, and we should expect 

2017-03-10 17:22:56.239	that a large way when they come 

2017-03-10 17:22:59.325	to our program. 

2017-03-10 17:23:00.324	We ask them to commit to our 

2017-03-10 17:23:01.325	classes. 

2017-03-10 17:23:01.326	We say if you miss more than two 

2017-03-10 17:23:05.326	classes, you are out. 

2017-03-10 17:23:05.327	We call them if they are 5 or 10 

2017-03-10 17:23:06.324	minutes late. 

2017-03-10 17:23:07.327	Graduation rates are between 90% 

2017-03-10 17:23:12.325	-- 90% and 95%. 

2017-03-10 17:23:14.327	Final pieces like 

2017-03-10 17:23:19.483	sustainability. 

2017-03-10 17:23:19.484	That has kind of come up. 

2017-03-10 17:23:20.379	There's been a lot in the art 

2017-03-10 17:23:24.375	space about, we are going to do 

2017-03-10 17:23:24.375	this workshop with you. 

2017-03-10 17:23:25.379	What is next? 

2017-03-10 17:23:27.374	How are you linking up with 

2017-03-10 17:23:30.424	resources in that community, 

2017-03-10 17:23:32.42	providing that sustainability. 

2017-03-10 17:23:32.42	Figuring out what those back end

2017-03-10 17:23:38.421	partnerships look like, it's 

2017-03-10 17:23:39.426	important to do justice to the 

2017-03-10 17:23:39.426	people we are serving. 

2017-03-10 17:23:41.423	>> Hre and back there. 

2017-03-10 17:23:45.45	-- here and bck there. 

2017-03-10 17:23:49.452	>> This was such a great 

2017-03-10 17:23:54.451	conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:23:54.452	Thanks so much. 

2017-03-10 17:23:54.453	I have a comment but I also 

2017-03-10 17:23:56.454	wanted to -- thinking about 

2017-03-10 17:24:00.456	artistic quality. 

2017-03-10 17:24:00.457	I don't think about, with this 

2017-03-10 17:24:03.452	kind of work you think about -- 

2017-03-10 17:24:05.451	as a curator, I think about 

2017-03-10 17:24:08.49	quality in a different way. 

2017-03-10 17:24:11.495	If I have an audience that looks 

2017-03-10 17:24:12.494	like my other audiences, I have 

2017-03-10 17:24:17.491	failed for this kind of work. 

2017-03-10 17:24:18.494	I need a different combination 

2017-03-10 17:24:20.503	of people. 

2017-03-10 17:24:20.504	Tied to that is the way that I 

2017-03-10 17:24:22.494	think about polity. 

2017-03-10 17:24:24.493	For me quality has to do with

2017-03-10 17:24:28.512	engagement for this kind of 

2017-03-10 17:24:28.512	work. 

2017-03-10 17:24:28.513	I don't think about, is

2017-03-10 17:24:33.507	somebody's turn out perfect. 

2017-03-10 17:24:34.533	I don't think about, is the 

2017-03-10 17:24:35.549	addiction perfect? 

2017-03-10 17:24:35.55	Those things help deliver the 

2017-03-10 17:24:39.544	engagement but it's the 

2017-03-10 17:24:39.544	engagement I'm really after. 

2017-03-10 17:24:41.535	Really hearing this message 

2017-03-10 17:24:43.536	about sustainability, building 

2017-03-10 17:24:48.534	trust which takes time, about 

2017-03-10 17:24:49.538	not being on that grant 

2017-03-10 17:24:49.538	timeline. 

2017-03-10 17:24:49.539	We all know those timelines. 

2017-03-10 17:24:52.547	As more of a neophyte -- we will 

2017-03-10 17:24:56.625	talk later on a different 

2017-03-10 17:24:58.675	roundtable. 

2017-03-10 17:24:58.675	The way I engage with this work 

2017-03-10 17:25:01.679	I would say is periodic. 

2017-03-10 17:25:03.678	I'm not a company founded to do 

2017-03-10 17:25:07.678	this work. 

2017-03-10 17:25:07.679	I do it as often as I can, but 

2017-03-10 17:25:07.679	is not consistent. 

2017-03-10 17:25:10.679	Are we at a place with the 

2017-03-10 17:25:15.269	resources that exist where there 

2017-03-10 17:25:15.749	is an understanding of that long

2017-03-10 17:25:19.785	trajectory that is needed, and 

2017-03-10 17:25:20.827	if not, what can we do to get 

2017-03-10 17:25:20.828	there? 

2017-03-10 17:25:21.828	>> I rarely do this. 

2017-03-10 17:25:34.826	I'm going to echo that point. 

2017-03-10 17:25:39.999	There's a lot of good practical 

2017-03-10 17:25:40	tangible stuff and the only 

2017-03-10 17:25:41.882	thing I wanted to throw on 

2017-03-10 17:25:42.875	there, the military knows the 

2017-03-10 17:25:46.876	arts have practical value. 

2017-03-10 17:25:46.877	At Maxwell Air Force Base there 

2017-03-10 17:25:48.886	is a program where they set up 

2017-03-10 17:25:50.934	one of those big faux villages 

2017-03-10 17:25:53.935	and they bring military members 

2017-03-10 17:25:55.928	through there, kind of cultural

2017-03-10 17:25:58.956	awareness. 

2017-03-10 17:25:58.957	They bring groups through. 

2017-03-10 17:26:00.95	You are supposed to try to 

2017-03-10 17:26:01.95	negotiation a first time in 

2017-03-10 17:26:05.991	country situation, water rights. 

2017-03-10 17:26:07.034	Afterwards you bring it down, 

2017-03-10 17:26:11.036	tell them these are the things 

2017-03-10 17:26:15.04	that unite us as humans on this 

2017-03-10 17:26:15.041	planet. 

2017-03-10 17:26:15.041	This is what you do. 

2017-03-10 17:26:20.117	Building those relationships, 

2017-03-10 17:26:20.117	and if you need things to 

2017-03-10 17:26:20.118	reference, look up great find 

2017-03-10 17:26:24.039	out what the military already 

2017-03-10 17:26:24.04	uses in those ways and say, we 

2017-03-10 17:26:28.079	have this project for this 

2017-03-10 17:26:28.08	program, and the thing that 

2017-03-10 17:26:32.128	creates the issue -- being in 

2017-03-10 17:26:32.128	the military, being kind of 

2017-03-10 17:26:37.128	taken and controlled and put to 

2017-03-10 17:26:37.129	do these things that normally 

2017-03-10 17:26:38.128	people would not want to do to 

2017-03-10 17:26:40.129	each other. 

2017-03-10 17:26:40.13	You can say, you should then 

2017-03-10 17:26:43.181	tell people to do these good 

2017-03-10 17:26:43.181	things while they are out 

2017-03-10 17:26:49.193	processing, approach these 

2017-03-10 17:26:49.193	things at that point when you 

2017-03-10 17:26:49.194	can force them to do it because 

2017-03-10 17:26:52.236	they will be pains in the asses

2017-03-10 17:26:55.177	about it afterwards. 

2017-03-10 17:26:55.178	If you need reference points, 

2017-03-10 17:26:58.181	stuff like that, it sounds 

2017-03-10 17:27:02.205	fantastic. 

2017-03-10 17:27:02.205	I would love to touch base with 

2017-03-10 17:27:03.204	you afterwards. 

2017-03-10 17:27:04.204	It's already being done, we 

2017-03-10 17:27:07.206	should do more of it. 

2017-03-10 17:27:08.207	>> I forgot to say earlier the 

2017-03-10 17:27:12.246	views I express are not the 

2017-03-10 17:27:12.247	views of the dod, but they are 

2017-03-10 17:27:14.248	personally my own. 

2017-03-10 17:27:15.245	Now I can start. 

2017-03-10 17:27:20.33	You all have such a dilemma in 

2017-03-10 17:27:26.33	the art community. 

2017-03-10 17:27:26.33	I'm not an artist. 

2017-03-10 17:27:26.331	To be able to venture into the 

2017-03-10 17:27:29.337	space of trauma and do so 

2017-03-10 17:27:34.335	respectfully and not open up 

2017-03-10 17:27:34.336	things that are inappropriate to 

2017-03-10 17:27:34.336	open up, that is a difficult 

2017-03-10 17:27:37.333	task.. 

2017-03-10 17:27:39.377	Some concerns in terms of 

2017-03-10 17:27:42.428	listening to the things we heard 

2017-03-10 17:27:43.427	earlier, one has to be very 

2017-03-10 17:27:43.427	careful. 

2017-03-10 17:27:45.428	You are opening up the doors. 

2017-03-10 17:27:45.428	You may not think you are 

2017-03-10 17:27:49.425	opening the door, but that door 

2017-03-10 17:27:51.433	is opening. 

2017-03-10 17:27:51.434	You also are striving to get 

2017-03-10 17:27:51.435	impactful information, you 

2017-03-10 17:27:56.508	want to get stories, that 

2017-03-10 17:27:59.465	emotional experience. 

2017-03-10 17:27:59.466	It's a difficult dilemma to 

2017-03-10 17:27:59.467	navigate with those service

2017-03-10 17:28:03.499	members. 

2017-03-10 17:28:03.5	22 service members, active for 

2017-03-10 17:28:03.5	prior, commit suis -- or prior,

2017-03-10 17:28:08.497	commit suicide a day. 

2017-03-10 17:28:09.5	It is an acceptable -- and on 

2017-03-10 17:28:14.499	acceptable number. 

2017-03-10 17:28:14.499	We have to be mindful of the 

2017-03-10 17:28:15.497	spaces you travel with folks who 

2017-03-10 17:28:19.5	are already taking great steps 

2017-03-10 17:28:19.501	to come to your area. 

2017-03-10 17:28:22.499	Getting them out of the house, 

2017-03-10 17:28:23.495	leaving the bunker so to speak, 

2017-03-10 17:28:24.495	is taking a great risk on their 

2017-03-10 17:28:28.629	part. 

2017-03-10 17:28:28.629	To join their community and have 

2017-03-10 17:28:28.63	certain questions, delves into 

2017-03-10 17:28:31.626	perhaps on a level that is more 

2017-03-10 17:28:31.626	clinical than it is not, I would 

2017-03-10 17:28:35.634	caution and ask for a wise

2017-03-10 17:28:37.757	thought in terms of how you 

2017-03-10 17:28:41.628	pursue digging further in your 

2017-03-10 17:28:41.629	efforts to find impactful 

2017-03-10 17:28:43.627	material for your 

2017-03-10 17:28:44.676	representations. 

2017-03-10 17:28:44.676	>> Hi. 

2017-03-10 17:28:46.677	Actually one of the great 

2017-03-10 17:28:51.752	strategies I was able to employ 

2017-03-10 17:28:53.717	sitting here right next to me, 

2017-03-10 17:28:57.71	this extraordinary human being

2017-03-10 17:29:00.709	who recognizes the value of the 

2017-03-10 17:29:00.71	arts to affect social change, is 

2017-03-10 17:29:06.748	a retired Lieutenant Colonel 

2017-03-10 17:29:06.749	from the Army, 26 years in the 

2017-03-10 17:29:10.751	service. 

2017-03-10 17:29:10.767	As a producer who's going to all 

2017-03-10 17:29:12.79	these different places, it's 

2017-03-10 17:29:15.836	very difficult as I don't live 

2017-03-10 17:29:16.836	in a particular place where I am 

2017-03-10 17:29:19.843	bringing up performance. 

2017-03-10 17:29:21.832	How do you then help to ensure

2017-03-10 17:29:24.84	those connections are valuable? 

2017-03-10 17:29:24.841	As a middle-aged Jeiwshwish

2017-03-10 17:29:30.832	women, I can't be calling 

2017-03-10 17:29:32.837	these service organizations and 

2017-03-10 17:29:36.877	having an Acer credibility. 

2017-03-10 17:29:37.927	I wish that wasn't true, but it 

2017-03-10 17:29:37.928	is. 

2017-03-10 17:29:37.928	It work very closely with art. 

2017-03-10 17:29:42.037	We went to 40 cities around the 

2017-03-10 17:29:43.934	country. 

2017-03-10 17:29:43.935	Art was tireless in terms of 

2017-03-10 17:29:48.93	working with presenters, talking 

2017-03-10 17:29:48.931	to presenters, giving that his 

2017-03-10 17:29:52.927	point of view, asking presenters 

2017-03-10 17:29:53.927	if they reached out to a variety 

2017-03-10 17:29:54.959	of different social service 

2017-03-10 17:29:55.959	organizations, showing up at 

2017-03-10 17:29:58.959	performances whenever you can, 

2017-03-10 17:29:59.999	and guidance about who should be 

2017-03-10 17:30:02.045	sitting about -- giving guidance 

2017-03-10 17:30:05.087	about who should be sitting on 

2017-03-10 17:30:05.088	the

2017-03-10 17:30:05.088	 he that cellular experience 

2017-03-10 17:30:13.083	and the intellectual knowledge,

2017-03-10 17:30:21.085	to be an effective advocate and 

2017-03-10 17:30:21.086	partner in the best fashions as 

2017-03-10 17:30:25.086	he went to these places and ways 

2017-03-10 17:30:25.102	I could, -- couldn't, no matter 

2017-03-10 17:30:30.083	how much I care. 

2017-03-10 17:30:33.083	>> the artist talked a lot about

2017-03-10 17:30:36.09	their work for the purpose of 

2017-03-10 17:30:36.091	healing and therapy. 

2017-03-10 17:30:41.085	The work we did with bass track 

2017-03-10 17:30:41.086	lies is more about civics 

2017-03-10 17:30:44.086	literacy. 

2017-03-10 17:30:44.086	.4% of the nation's public since 

2017-03-10 17:30:52.123	September 11, 2001, served in 

2017-03-10 17:30:53.123	uniform. 

2017-03-10 17:30:54.273	96% of Americans have not 

2017-03-10 17:31:00.126	directly been involved in combat 

2017-03-10 17:31:01.13	operations as a result of 9/11. 

2017-03-10 17:31:01.13	Society doesn't understand the 

2017-03-10 17:31:05.178	stories and the lives of their 

2017-03-10 17:31:10.253	military service straight it's 

2017-03-10 17:31:10.253	important today, since 1973 

2017-03-10 17:31:13.177	became an all volunteer thing. 

2017-03-10 17:31:15.181	We heard the example of civil 

2017-03-10 17:31:16.177	war, everybody went to the war. 

2017-03-10 17:31:17.178	Every male went to the war. 

2017-03-10 17:31:20.18	That's not the case now. 

2017-03-10 17:31:20.181	A small minority of people, this 

2017-03-10 17:31:27.211	millennial generation have made 

2017-03-10 17:31:27.211	a choice to serve great they did 

2017-03-10 17:31:28.215	exceptionally well and now they 

2017-03-10 17:31:32.255	are struggling to put the life 

2017-03-10 17:31:33.251	spec together, find new meaning 

2017-03-10 17:31:35.335	and opportunities to become a 

2017-03-10 17:31:35.336	citizen again. 

2017-03-10 17:31:36.337	Bass track was more of enhancing 

2017-03-10 17:31:40.337	the nonveterans to understand 

2017-03-10 17:31:42.337	who these people are. 

2017-03-10 17:31:42.338	In this case, you are here to 

2017-03-10 17:31:46.335	see it tomorrow. 

2017-03-10 17:31:46.336	That is the story of two people

2017-03-10 17:31:51.335	that represents 4.1 million. 

2017-03-10 17:31:52.341	I would throw out there to the 

2017-03-10 17:31:53.336	artists that are presenting work 

2017-03-10 17:31:55.336	that is not just therapy, but it 

2017-03-10 17:31:58.382	is civic or social literacy. 

2017-03-10 17:32:00.376	If we will move past a 

2017-03-10 17:32:03.387	sympathetic approach towards an 

2017-03-10 17:32:03.387	apathetic approach we know 

2017-03-10 17:32:07.38	apathy is a better emotion to 

2017-03-10 17:32:07.381	work with and learn a change 

2017-03-10 17:32:08.377	than sympathy. 

2017-03-10 17:32:10.379	It sucks to be you is not 

2017-03-10 17:32:14.426	helpful to a veteran. 

2017-03-10 17:32:14.427	Saying what can I do to help or 

2017-03-10 17:32:22.481	make you part of my community, 

2017-03-10 17:32:23.501	we need that, and that's a 

2017-03-10 17:32:26.505	calling for the artist. 

2017-03-10 17:32:29.51	And you for letting me share 

2017-03-10 17:32:31.502	that -- thank you for letting me 

2017-03-10 17:32:35.504	share that. 

2017-03-10 17:32:35.504	>> And went to piggyback on the 

2017-03-10 17:32:37.518	tail end of that. 

2017-03-10 17:32:39.515	One of the important things that 

2017-03-10 17:32:43.548	is often left out in this 

2017-03-10 17:32:43.549	conversation, when we are 

2017-03-10 17:32:47.649	looking at how do you reach 

2017-03-10 17:32:47.65	across the lines between artists

2017-03-10 17:32:50.678	and military, because they seem 

2017-03-10 17:32:50.678	so disparate and polar and 

2017-03-10 17:32:55.68	separated from each other, first 

2017-03-10 17:32:57.678	of all it's not. 

2017-03-10 17:32:58.678	There is a very distinct 

2017-03-10 17:33:03.678	commonality between the kinds of 

2017-03-10 17:33:07.729	worlds that theater people 

2017-03-10 17:33:08.728	living in and the kind of world 

2017-03-10 17:33:08.728	that military people live in. 

2017-03-10 17:33:09.868	I was theater and then I went 

2017-03-10 17:33:14.727	into military and I came out of 

2017-03-10 17:33:14.728	the military in theater. 

2017-03-10 17:33:16.726	What true that through line for 

2017-03-10 17:33:17.726	me is the teamwork, the 

2017-03-10 17:33:20.725	structure, the knowing that as 

2017-03-10 17:33:25.8	part of this team you have a 

2017-03-10 17:33:25.801	specific function, and you are 

2017-03-10 17:33:31.802	as part of your function you are 

2017-03-10 17:33:31.803	serving the greater good of that 

2017-03-10 17:33:31.803	team. 

2017-03-10 17:33:32.795	There is a huge commonality 

2017-03-10 17:33:35.851	within theater to draw that into 

2017-03-10 17:33:39.844	the veteran community. 

2017-03-10 17:33:40.841	And part of why that is 

2017-03-10 17:33:43.925	necessary -- I want to piggyback 

2017-03-10 17:33:46.837	on the tail end of this last 

2017-03-10 17:33:46.837	discussion. 

2017-03-10 17:33:51.912	All too often, amongst my fellow 

2017-03-10 17:33:53.84	veterans, what I hear is that 

2017-03-10 17:33:55.843	when we do these programs, it's 

2017-03-10 17:33:58.891	always framed in the terms of 

2017-03-10 17:34:01.881	let me help you, let me help 

2017-03-10 17:34:01.881	you, let me help you. 

2017-03-10 17:34:03.884	The fact is that most people 

2017-03-10 17:34:06.879	that most people to sign up in 

2017-03-10 17:34:07.884	this all volunteer army sign up 

2017-03-10 17:34:10.882	to serve because they want to 

2017-03-10 17:34:10.883	fulfill a valuable function. 

2017-03-10 17:34:13.88	When they leave the military and 

2017-03-10 17:34:16.928	they going to the civilian world

2017-03-10 17:34:19.929	and they are experiencing this 

2017-03-10 17:34:19.93	cognitive dissonance, I'm in 

2017-03-10 17:34:24.93	this structured world where I 

2017-03-10 17:34:25.992	have this specific function and 

2017-03-10 17:34:25.993	I'm serving this value, now 

2017-03-10 17:34:29.934	suddenly I'm in a world that has 

2017-03-10 17:34:29.935	no structure, a world where I am 

2017-03-10 17:34:32.932	in a way functionless, I now do 

2017-03-10 17:34:38.98	I maybe not see my value, but 

2017-03-10 17:34:40.982	people are telling me I don't 

2017-03-10 17:34:40.983	have that value because they 

2017-03-10 17:34:40.983	have to help me. 

2017-03-10 17:34:41.99	My question is, can we reframe 

2017-03-10 17:34:46.048	this in a way where it's not 

2017-03-10 17:34:50.049	about helping the veteran, but 

2017-03-10 17:34:53.046	rather it's about the veteran 

2017-03-10 17:34:55.048	helping to teach us, helping to 

2017-03-10 17:34:58.06	teach the community and helping 

2017-03-10 17:35:01.048	to bridge the gap of 

2017-03-10 17:35:01.049	communication between the 

2017-03-10 17:35:01.049	military and the community. 

2017-03-10 17:35:03.05	That's what I have to say. 

2017-03-10 17:35:06.049	Thanks. 

2017-03-10 17:35:07.089	>> Did you have a comment? 

2017-03-10 17:35:12.091	I thought I saw your hand up. 

2017-03-10 17:35:15.089	Medicine and then -- Madison and 

2017-03-10 17:35:20.09	then Bill. 

2017-03-10 17:35:21.089	Madison: Hey. 

2017-03-10 17:35:24.09	I'm going to jump right on that 

2017-03-10 17:35:27.093	bandwagon. 

2017-03-10 17:35:27.093	I was responding to you in your 

2017-03-10 17:35:33.132	note about art and healing and 

2017-03-10 17:35:35.131	being careful. 

2017-03-10 17:35:35.132	One of the roles I think art and 

2017-03-10 17:35:40.128	artists have always done, not so 

2017-03-10 17:35:42.127	much with the goal to heal, but 

2017-03-10 17:35:44.13	to make the invisible visible,

2017-03-10 17:35:48.131	which is what you're talking 

2017-03-10 17:35:48.131	about. 

2017-03-10 17:35:48.132	It's on some level so much 

2017-03-10 17:35:51.13	simpler. 

2017-03-10 17:35:52.131	There might be other journeys, 

2017-03-10 17:35:55.133	that we are putting things on st 

2017-03-10 17:35:58.131	age. 

2017-03-10 17:35:58.132	There's a face, and is not one

2017-03-10 17:36:01.13	veteran. 

2017-03-10 17:36:01.131	You can go, when I stand up and 

2017-03-10 17:36:06.133	tell people I'm a veteran, they 

2017-03-10 17:36:06.133	are like, I never would have

2017-03-10 17:36:10.133	thought that trigger I tell them 

2017-03-10 17:36:10.134	I am in artist. 

2017-03-10 17:36:11.133	-- that. 

2017-03-10 17:36:12.147	I told him I am an artist. 

2017-03-10 17:36:14.143	They can kind of see that. 

2017-03-10 17:36:17.184	We all contain these invisible 

2017-03-10 17:36:19.175	stories. 

2017-03-10 17:36:20.185	We share what we want to share 

2017-03-10 17:36:23.19	when we feel comfortable or we 

2017-03-10 17:36:23.19	are outed or whatever the 

2017-03-10 17:36:27.185	journey is. 

2017-03-10 17:36:27.185	Making the invisible visible is 

2017-03-10 17:36:31.188	what we are doing great healing 

2017-03-10 17:36:33.181	can happen because of that. 

2017-03-10 17:36:33.181	Empowerment can have an. 

2017-03-10 17:36:34.181	Then we start getting some real 

2017-03-10 17:36:36.184	equity in the conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:36:39.258	>> so, first I want to say the

2017-03-10 17:36:44.34	NEA had nothing to do with the 

2017-03-10 17:36:46.347	salty language in that poem 

2017-03-10 17:36:47.346	earlier. 

2017-03-10 17:36:48.343	We're clearing that. 

2017-03-10 17:36:50.341	[LAUGHTER] 

2017-03-10 17:36:50.342	So, a couple things. 

2017-03-10 17:36:55.416	One of the things that having 

2017-03-10 17:37:00.422	worked in the arts sector for 20 

2017-03-10 17:37:03.381	years or so before I spent five 

2017-03-10 17:37:03.382	years working more in the areas 

2017-03-10 17:37:05.481	where you guys are, it's a 

2017-03-10 17:37:09.481	difficult thing to separate out 

2017-03-10 17:37:10.48	whether what we are doing is a 

2017-03-10 17:37:12.51	focus on healing, or what we are 

2017-03-10 17:37:17.585	doing is more focused on what I 

2017-03-10 17:37:17.586	was trained to think of, let's

2017-03-10 17:37:21.516	examine the human experience in 

2017-03-10 17:37:24.552	a way that allows us to 

2017-03-10 17:37:26.548	understand ourselves better, and 

2017-03-10 17:37:29.634	we don't shy away from the 

2017-03-10 17:37:29.634	things that were the subject of 

2017-03-10 17:37:33.683	the beginning of Western 

2017-03-10 17:37:33.683	civilization, or people came 

2017-03-10 17:37:35.682	back from Peloponnesian wars and 

2017-03-10 17:37:39.681	wrote about it and processed it 

2017-03-10 17:37:41.681	together in a big theater. 

2017-03-10 17:37:42.682	One of the things it is 

2017-03-10 17:37:46.729	interesting to me about the 

2017-03-10 17:37:47.728	platforms that exist when you do 

2017-03-10 17:37:49.905	bring people to those tables and 

2017-03-10 17:37:49.905	art used to being there

2017-03-10 17:37:50.802	together, it creates a really 

2017-03-10 17:37:52.844	unusual forum for what has 

2017-03-10 17:37:56.844	become a fragmented society to 

2017-03-10 17:37:59.843	get around something together, 

2017-03-10 17:38:01.843	and it doesn't matter how you 

2017-03-10 17:38:01.843	voted a couple months ago. 

2017-03-10 17:38:05.844	You are all in it at the local 

2017-03-10 17:38:06.841	community level. 

2017-03-10 17:38:08.84	That's a healthy thing. 

2017-03-10 17:38:11.84	We will talk more about this 

2017-03-10 17:38:11.84	tomorrow. 

2017-03-10 17:38:12.843	Immediately after the artist 

2017-03-10 17:38:16.932	conversation here -- there's two 

2017-03-10 17:38:19.927	ways to be thinking of art

2017-03-10 17:38:22.054	making in the setting we are 

2017-03-10 17:38:24.981	talking about, especially if it 

2017-03-10 17:38:26.982	has to do with trauma. 

2017-03-10 17:38:28.982	They're not really diametrically 

2017-03-10 17:38:33.981	opposed, but there are different 

2017-03-10 17:38:38.011	rules that take place depending 

2017-03-10 17:38:39.054	on who you are talking to and 

2017-03-10 17:38:39.054	what the purpose is. 

2017-03-10 17:38:43.052	If it's about healing, make sure 

2017-03-10 17:38:43.053	you know that's what it is. 

2017-03-10 17:38:43.053	If that's the case, there are 

2017-03-10 17:38:50.055	prompts and things you can do 

2017-03-10 17:38:50.056	that can lead someone on that 

2017-03-10 17:38:50.056	journey. 

2017-03-10 17:38:52.051	Other people who spend time --

2017-03-10 17:38:59.052	in the military effort a lot of 

2017-03-10 17:38:59.053	people -- I've heard a lot of 

2017-03-10 17:39:02.055	people saying there is something 

2017-03-10 17:39:07.13	bizarre about the fact that we 

2017-03-10 17:39:08.053	are trying to run towards the 

2017-03-10 17:39:08.053	bullet. 

2017-03-10 17:39:08.054	We are trained in college to run 

2017-03-10 17:39:10.053	towards the Samuel Beckett 

2017-03-10 17:39:12.06	trauma situation, and that's not 

2017-03-10 17:39:16.057	always the best thing for the 

2017-03-10 17:39:16.058	person you are engaging. 

2017-03-10 17:39:17.052	At the same time I do think I 

2017-03-10 17:39:24.057	respond strongly to what you are 

2017-03-10 17:39:25.054	talking about, sitting in a 

2017-03-10 17:39:26.054	writing program for the last few 

2017-03-10 17:39:27.094	years, I believe there is 

2017-03-10 17:39:32.096	something about the wartime 

2017-03-10 17:39:32.097	experience that shakes us loose

2017-03-10 17:39:36.103	from the coma we can walk 

2017-03-10 17:39:37.099	through life in this 21st 

2017-03-10 17:39:38.107	century way that we live it. 

2017-03-10 17:39:38.108	It models the cage, makes you 

2017-03-10 17:39:43.097	rethink things very deeply. 

2017-03-10 17:39:47.098	I know a lot of the special 

2017-03-10 17:39:48.1	operators who come through this 

2017-03-10 17:39:48.1	writing program after having 

2017-03-10 17:39:50.103	worked with a rights who had 

2017-03-10 17:39:51.139	been through Brown, which I'm 

2017-03-10 17:39:55.14	sure had a different kind of 

2017-03-10 17:39:55.141	PTSD, they have an unfair 

2017-03-10 17:39:59.14	advantage at this work that we 

2017-03-10 17:39:59.14	do. 

2017-03-10 17:39:59.141	They do have something to teach 

2017-03-10 17:40:02.137	us. 

2017-03-10 17:40:02.137	If we can recognize this notion 

2017-03-10 17:40:07.136	of voyeuristic window into their 

2017-03-10 17:40:13.138	illness, which can be really 

2017-03-10 17:40:16.186	patronizing, and really kind of 

2017-03-10 17:40:19.186	shallow, but if we recognize 

2017-03-10 17:40:24.261	they actually live something, 

2017-03-10 17:40:24.262	they can tell us about what a 

2017-03-10 17:40:27.234	human being is, then we are all 

2017-03-10 17:40:28.232	having a better conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:40:30.234	>> That's great. 

2017-03-10 17:40:32.234	Colleen over here. 

2017-03-10 17:40:35.234	>> I just wanted to say two

2017-03-10 17:40:43.259	things. 

2017-03-10 17:40:43.26	We have been doing this work for 

2017-03-10 17:40:48.347	over 23 years. 

2017-03-10 17:40:48.347	When you talk about consistency, 

2017-03-10 17:40:50.261	I always ask the question to 

2017-03-10 17:40:53.273	look back at your mission. 

2017-03-10 17:40:53.273	The mission is connecting 

2017-03-10 17:40:55.266	communities, and the military is 

2017-03-10 17:40:58.307	one of those communities. 

2017-03-10 17:40:58.308	The other thing I like to 

2017-03-10 17:41:01.349	include in the conversation is 

2017-03-10 17:41:03.393	the notion of military 

2017-03-10 17:41:10.389	dependents. 

2017-03-10 17:41:10.39	You did not go through that 

2017-03-10 17:41:10.391	service alone. 

2017-03-10 17:41:12.387	You might through it with your 

2017-03-10 17:41:15.39	partners and your children. 

2017-03-10 17:41:15.39	Those in the military know what 

2017-03-10 17:41:18.394	canoe means. 

2017-03-10 17:41:19.389	Your parent is there, and in the 

2017-03-10 17:41:22.433	canoe is stable. 

2017-03-10 17:41:25.469	Your parent leaves, the canoe is 

2017-03-10 17:41:28.432	unstable. 

2017-03-10 17:41:28.432	You figure out how to ride in it

2017-03-10 17:41:32.433	yourself and it becomes stable 

2017-03-10 17:41:33.435	again. 

2017-03-10 17:41:33.436	I would like to include 

2017-03-10 17:41:34.483	dependence in this conversation 

2017-03-10 17:41:36.482	as well. 

2017-03-10 17:41:37.482	>> Is there a final comment? 

2017-03-10 17:41:39.484	We are wrapping up, but I want 

2017-03-10 17:41:43.482	to make sure everybody -- yes. 

2017-03-10 17:41:44.484	Liz, go ahead. 

2017-03-10 17:41:46.481	Didn't see you back there. 

2017-03-10 17:41:49.514	>> I didn't hear your name. 

2017-03-10 17:41:53.556	During this round of working 

2017-03-10 17:42:04.557	with people, I started thinking 

2017-03-10 17:42:06.558	a lot about what was it that 

2017-03-10 17:42:07.56	people were missing when they 

2017-03-10 17:42:07.561	came back. 

2017-03-10 17:42:10.558	These are my words, not theirs. 

2017-03-10 17:42:14.598	Risk, purpose, and love. 

2017-03-10 17:42:15.613	When I thought about that, I 

2017-03-10 17:42:18.598	thought, I'm addicted to risk, 

2017-03-10 17:42:22.602	purpose, and love. 

2017-03-10 17:42:23.601	That's why we do it over and 

2017-03-10 17:42:25.601	over again. 

2017-03-10 17:42:26.598	We are so fortunate to have 

2017-03-10 17:42:30.6	that. 

2017-03-10 17:42:30.601	All three of those things, in 

2017-03-10 17:42:35.685	combination. 

2017-03-10 17:42:35.686	The other comment I wanted to 

2017-03-10 17:42:39.683	think about was, do we open to 

2017-03-10 17:42:41.683	many doors? 

2017-03-10 17:42:43.683	I believe the artistic process 

2017-03-10 17:42:46.686	in its fullness adopts this 

2017-03-10 17:42:49.682	dilemma. 

2017-03-10 17:42:50.686	A person may fall apart, and I 

2017-03-10 17:43:01.78	heard what Victoria said and the 

2017-03-10 17:43:03.783	question, the playwright, the  

2017-03-10 17:43:06.784	guy scuttling and making him 

2017-03-10 17:43:09.79	uncomfortable, that is another 

2017-03-10 17:43:11.787	way in which we have stepped 

2017-03-10 17:43:11.788	over our line. 

2017-03-10 17:43:11.789	The artistic process lets us go 

2017-03-10 17:43:13.785	back in, try it again, say it 

2017-03-10 17:43:16.783	again. 

2017-03-10 17:43:16.784	In our world, I often say -- I 

2017-03-10 17:43:19.811	put people entirely in charge of 

2017-03-10 17:43:23.81	what it is they are saying and 

2017-03-10 17:43:25.808	doing and talking about. 

2017-03-10 17:43:25.808	Whether it's the military or old 

2017-03-10 17:43:29.872	people, children in the hospital 

2017-03-10 17:43:29.873	-- people are amazing what they 

2017-03-10 17:43:33.81	will choose to say and when they 

2017-03-10 17:43:33.81	will say it. 

2017-03-10 17:43:33.811	But if this happens -- I don't 

2017-03-10 17:43:38.811	know that they have gone too far

2017-03-10 17:43:41.854	. 

2017-03-10 17:43:41.855	Sometimes we are afraid to feel 

2017-03-10 17:43:42.854	it. 

2017-03-10 17:43:42.855	Hold it, be with it. 

2017-03-10 17:43:43.868	Someone said to me, this man 

2017-03-10 17:43:46.896	whose brother -- he said, I'm 

2017-03-10 17:43:49.907	not going to come see it unless 

2017-03-10 17:43:53.893	you promise me somebody has 

2017-03-10 17:43:54.892	healed. 

2017-03-10 17:43:54.892	If I don't see somebody healed 

2017-03-10 17:43:54.893	in your piece, I'm not coming. 

2017-03-10 17:43:59.967	Does anybody get healed? 

2017-03-10 17:44:00.892	I said to him, give me 24 hours. 

2017-03-10 17:44:04.894	I have to think about this. 

2017-03-10 17:44:07.894	I don't know. 

2017-03-10 17:44:07.895	Then I came back with this thing 

2017-03-10 17:44:08.893	about artistic process. 

2017-03-10 17:44:11.892	I said, if you mean to people 

2017-03-10 17:44:14.892	get over it and they are done 

2017-03-10 17:44:15.895	with it, no. 

2017-03-10 17:44:16.894	No one will get healed. 

2017-03-10 17:44:19.894	But if you think people may be 

2017-03-10 17:44:19.894	seen living with it, partnering 

2017-03-10 17:44:22.892	with it, coming back to it, 

2017-03-10 17:44:23.912	trying this way, yes. 

2017-03-10 17:44:24.894	So there's somewhere in this 

2017-03-10 17:44:30.892	question about the evolution of 

2017-03-10 17:44:30.893	these things and how we handle 

2017-03-10 17:44:34.936	the evolution that goes to your 

2017-03-10 17:44:34.937	important question. 

2017-03-10 17:44:36.937	>> I want to thank everyone. 

2017-03-10 17:44:39.935	This was a great conversation. 

2017-03-10 17:44:42.935	We will have a lot more 

2017-03-10 17:44:45.935	opportunity both to hear from 

2017-03-10 17:44:45.935	specific folks and talk together 

2017-03-10 17:44:48.935	as a large group. 

2017-03-10 17:44:49.935	Tomorrow will be quite full of 

2017-03-10 17:44:51.936	that. 

2017-03-10 17:44:52.934	Jamie, do you have some next

2017-03-10 17:44:56.982	steps for us? 

2017-03-10 17:44:57.986	>> I do. 

2017-03-10 17:44:59.989	It is 5:45. 

2017-03-10 17:45:01.989	We are on time. 

2017-03-10 17:45:04.04	We are going to go have dinner 

2017-03-10 17:45:07.044	together, which is really 

2017-03-10 17:45:09.033	exciting. 

2017-03-10 17:45:09.034	The place we are going is a 

2017-03-10 17:45:12.033	short walk from here, about 4 

2017-03-10 17:45:15.041	blocks, if I had to ballpark it. 

2017-03-10 17:45:17.034	Carl and David and Jane and the 

2017-03-10 17:45:20.042	folks from NEFA are going to -- 

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