Ash Marinaccio: Hey, friends. It’s Ash, your host for the Nonfiction Theatre Forum podcast, produced for HowlRound, a free and open platform for theatremakers worldwide. The Nonfiction Theatre Forum brings together artists, documentarians, journalists, scholars, and theatremakers to explore the wide world of nonfiction performance, from documentary and autobiographical work to ethnographic, verbatim, and tribunal theatre and everything in between. Together, we’ll dive into how these forums intersect with community, collaboration, ethics, staging, and more.
Today, we are joined by Baha Sadr, Chris Ackley, Ana Bess Moyer Bell, Eve Kerrigan, and Noga Paulino. They are a team comprised of artists, social workers, language translators, and organizers from Providence, Rhode Island, who are the creators and facilitators of Creative Pathways, an innovative pilot program that teaches English as a second language to refugees and newly arrived Americans using theatre. Creative Pathways uses the tools of nonfiction and documentary theatre specifically to help English learners develop their voices literally and figuratively.
Creative Pathways is housed at the Genesis Center, which is an organization that offers a full range of services to immigrants and refugees in Providence, Rhode Island. I had the honor of collaborating with Creative Pathways last year and directing their first full-length show called I Am Home, which was written and performed by program participants. It was a moving testament to how theatre can transform not only how we communicate, but how we connect.
I’ve worked on similar projects, but something I took away from Creative Pathways, which I think is something that should be replicated in all companies doing this work, was how community-based this was. Local musicians, artists, and theatremakers regularly met with participants, inviting them to be part of performances, make work in their studios, and just become an integral part of the community. Participants were fed at workshops, they were paid for their time, and they were supported through a staff of artists and social workers. How was this possible? Well, we are going to talk with Baha, Chris, Ana Bess, Eve, and Noga to tell us more.
I am so thrilled to have you all with me today. I just gave a little bit of an overview, but can you give us a little background about the Genesis Center and Creative Pathways?
Chris Ackley: Sure. This is Chris, and Genesis Center is an adult education organization. We have been located in Providence for almost forty-five years. We were founded to provide services to immigrants from Southeast Asia that were fleeing the Khmer Rouge and the Vietnam War. Over the last forty-five years, we’ve been providing English-as-a-second-language, supportive services, workforce training programs, all with the ultimate goal of helping people achieve economic independence.
The Creative Pathways program is a sort of adaptation to what we normally do with English language instruction, but we took a different approach where we were incorporating creative arts, drama therapy, and wider community input to help people to learn English, gain confidence, and achieve economic independence.
Ash: And why are you using theatre? I know this was the first theatre program that you’ve done. Why theatre?
Chris: I’ll let somebody else jump in for that one because I’m not the theatre person. I’m not a theatre person. There’s plenty of them in the group.
Eve Kerrigan: I feel like Baha should answer that one.
Ana Bess Moyer Bell: Yeah, Baha, tell us.
Baha Sadr: I can just add a little bit to why Genesis, if that’s okay, Chris. I think it’s good to have that context. I work at Department of Human Services. I’m the state refugee coordinator, so we work with a lot of vulnerable individuals who are new to this country. When they come to this country, they have many issues. And also, they have to find ways to get themselves out of poverty because they’re introduced to poverty. Welcome to America. Figure out how to make it work with high cost of living and language barrier, finding a job, so there’s a lot involved.
We wanted to do a summit around what poverty is to really have a better understanding of how people deal with poverty, people who are deep into poverty. I think, again, based on what we see, some people get stuck in that cycle, so we wanted to do a summit. I thought doing a summit is not really going to give us much information. I think we really need to work with people who are struggling with poverty, find ways to empower them to talk about it, help us better understand it, and figure out what are some of the best practices to help people get out of poverty.
I have had many experiences working with either drama therapy, and Ana Bess and I worked together on a project in 2019 and 2020 with unaccompanied children. I feel like theatre can really empower the individuals to find ways to talk about themselves in a setting that a general audience can listen to it and better understand it. I think theatre has that magic. It’s a form of a art that stimulates minds.
And also, personally, I’m from Iran, so when I came here, I had trouble speaking English, adjusting to the culture. I felt like theatre and arts, in general, helped me find ways to better explain who I am, where I’m coming from, and how to fit in.
Ash: What kind of theatre programs did you participate in when you first arrived to the US?
Baha: I wanted to incorporate comedy and things like that, but it was really hard because I could not be funny in English. English didn’t make sense. My jokes didn’t make sense. I actually did pantomime because it didn’t involve any words, and people were really engaged. They were like, “Oh my God, I didn’t realize pantomime movement, telling stories without words.” Then gradually, I went to the conservatory Trinity Rep, and so I think that’s how I started. I felt like you don’t really need words to tell stories. You just need to find a way of communicating those images and ideas to people.
Then puppet was another form of theatre that seemed somewhat natural. I worked with a lot of different companies, I worked with a lot of youth companies, and then multicultural companies, traveled across Canada, northern Ontario, and just kept up going that route.
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